All right, just want to remind everybody that all township council meetings will be audio and video tape. They'll be shown on the township provotions community cable channel 22 and Verizon bios on channel 77 on table. Uh, can I have a roll call, please? >> Sure. Mayor Nan here. >> Deputy Mayor Fischer
>> here. >> Council member Zachera >> here, Kaplan, Telerico >> here. >> The notice requirements of the open public meetings act for this meeting have been satisfied. A copy of the annual notice was sent to the Asbury Park Press and the coaster posted in town hall and filed with the municipal clerk on December 18th, 2025. We're
going to start off with Greg Blash, our township engineer. Just want to wish welcome everybody back to the new year. >> Happy new year. Thank you. Good evening everybody. Okay, first item 2023 grow program waiting for our final payment from the DOT uh 24 program. We had our
pre-construction meeting. He's going to start construction March 15th around there some depending on the weather somewhere mid-March. 25 program. We're in the middle of surveying the road. We probably have that out for bid probably midsummer, early summer to midsummer.
Uh next one is Kewell Park. That project is complete. The house is down. The area has been final final graded and seated. It will be punch list item because we're going to have to seed it again in the spring when the grass will grow. Right now it's kind of winter seated just so
it maintains it. The one thing we do have a problem with there we have the uh right now the contractor has left in place of my request of orange construction fence along the water where the bulkhead is. We're going to have to put some kind of fence along there for liability reasons. We just can't have
straight grade right into the water there because it's a little bit of a drop off. So we will have to probably somewhere put a fence along there in the near future. >> Was that figured into the original plan? No, we never because we're just taking everything out and not really considered
because we didn't really know what was going back. I didn't want to put a fence across there, but I think we should for security until we figure out what we're doing. Okay, next thing. Fireman's Pond. We worked out a, as you know, we stopped because we needed a dewatering site.
Found a dewatering site. We're going to get sent out for quotes. Those should be back by the end of January. Those will be on for pretty much your knowledge at the first the February meeting and we'll get that approved and I got the talking to the county about them restarting up in February. Just got to get them on
schedule and get them tied in and we should be going back again dredging that pond sometime midFebruary. >> So when you say dewaterering site and quotes, what's the quote for the site? >> Digging the hole. >> Oh, >> I got to go like if I'm the piece of
property we can use, I got to go out there and dig a hole. >> Got it. and you know burn them up around the hole and we're going to pour all that stuff in there, let it dry out, pure sand. When it dries out, we'll dig it out and then move it back over to the the compost facility which is where it was going in the first place. >> So the cost is the company to do that
digging, moving, and bringing it back. >> Just the digging cuz the countyy's going to bring the dirt over there for us and then we'll DPW will have to move the dirt from that site over to least compost site. >> And the site is ours. >> Yes. >> It's on Valley Road. It's where we're uh
>> the affordable project. >> It's where the affordable project is going to go. Then we're going to do two phases. We're putting this up on the upper hill of that which is where the second phase will ultimately be. But it's that that very long piece of property we have on Valley Road just south of the water tower. >> The propertyy's on a slope and the only
way that you can utilize it is if you level it. And that's what we figured out what about two years ago we were going over that. That's the second phase is we're getting we're going to be putting out codes to level that site off because the timing of it the co project I think is coming
into the planning boards by summertime. So he'll be ready to build probably by next summer. So we're going to get close to level that site off for that project. So he's ready to build when he gets his approvals. That'll be another thing when we get probably sometime in March we'll get those back. Probably those those
will be a bid though. That won't be a quote. So just are are we passing that cost on to him for the prep of the land so that he can build there? >> Well, it should probably be a no cost because they're going to get the dirt
out of the deal. So that's what we got to figure out is this because the dirt is that more valuable than the work. So we shouldn't have a problem with the uh >> with that project. We should be making probably make some money on that. I don't know how that works out. I gota figure that out with Kevin. But
>> so sorry. Um we're going to do the work before we know if we can get it out of him. >> Like I'm making a number. It's 50,000. Are we >> Well, what we tried to do initially, why it's taken a while, is we initially went
to um the the the guy that's building the COA project, >> right? And we asked him, hey, can you do this as part of your project because we feel the value in there where he would be able to do your site work, level your grade off, and do a lot of the site work
for you at relatively no cost to anybody, >> right? >> And he wasn't comfortable with that. He just it wasn't his normal way he does business. So, we're going to have to figure out a new way. And that's what we did is we're going to have to put out the bid, level the site off. We just got to figure out how we get the value out of that. That's what's taken a while
where we haven't put that out yet. How long does it take to dewater? I was gonna ask that question. Dewatering. Well, that's >> I just wanted to use the word dewater snagged. >> Um, it really the problem is is the
first like 8 in of the pond is going to that's going to be the first thing we bring over there. That's probably going to take a month or two. >> Wow. >> But the bottom is fairly dry. That won't take much. But we're going to pile that all in the same thing. So, it'll probably take two or three months to >> The bottom is dry. >> Oh, there sand. So when you when you
pile it up, the water comes out almost instantly. The other stuff is all decaying organics and it holds the water. >> But once we get to the bottom stuff, that'll dewater much faster. >> Okay. >> But it'll all be over there in the same hole and probably by midsummer, we'll be able to take that out, which is kind of perfect for lollipop.
>> Good timing. >> Coming in next. >> Oh, >> so hole for we'll use the same pro property for that dewater. >> How bad does that stuff stink? >> It didn't have any smell at all when we were taking it out. Yeah, it's not too bad. >> The organic doesn't no >> have a pungent odor.
>> Now, it was sitting there for several several weeks down, but it was still wet. It wasn't totally dry. So, most of the order was and it really won't because we're going to actually take it out wet now. >> Gotcha. >> So, okay. Uh so, Lollipop is next. We've got the
revised plans in the D waiting for approvals. We should be getting those sometime uh hopefully probably by February, March, which is when we got them last year. and we'll kind of tie right into our fall dredging of that project. Terrace Pond is the next one. We've got the
little bit of conversation we have to have on that one. Probably the limits of what the pond dredging is going to be because it seems to be changing. So, we'll have to talk about that maybe in a month or two. Uh Snell's Pond, I think I reported I talked to Blue Acres. Blue Acres will not let us use the excavate
the pond there. So, we're probably the only way we're most likely going to be able to dredge Sch Snell's Pond is do it through an assessment district because it's private property. So, that's something I guess, you know, you guys will have to decide and then we'll have to if that's the way we want to if we want to be involved through an
assessment district, then we'll have to go out to the neighborhood and advise them. That's the only way we can dredge this pond is through an assessment district because it's all private property other than the two lots we own. I think there's I think there was 25 total that have bought that. Do we have
a budgetary number on it? >> Uh, not really. The problem is we didn't do a budget thing because we thought we would have the county involved and the county said they're not going to do it because it's private property. So, it's going to probably be in the neighborhood. Depend. If we don't have a disposal site, it could be in the million-doll range.
>> Wow. >> If we have a disposal site for the material, then it will be in the couple hundred,000 range. >> They don't have an HOA over there, do they? >> No. >> No. No. And what would the what when we'd normally do an assessment like that assessments district assessment district
what do we do 10 years >> uh well we've always done them with the sidewalks it was five >> five >> so yeah I mean depending on I guess it really depend if we have a disposal site I think five years would be fine >> right >> but if it's the big number then you might want to do a 10 but I think it
might be a hard sell on some of the people to even want to be involved in it at all >> yeah what happens if they don't I feel like it's a no one Well, there be honest with you that the 24 25 people that live around the lake, we only have one that's complaining, >> right? That's what I'm saying.
>> We're going to go and put this big number in front of the other 23. I don't want that. >> I have no problem with the pond. Why are we doing this? >> Yeah, it's pretty. They'll tell >> if it's pretty or not, but they aren't going to want to spend that kind of money. >> It's about $333 a month >> for 10 years. >> Yeah.
>> Per person. >> Yeah, it's a big number. >> I got a question for you, too. I know the weather's changed, but I know some uh someone asked me, "Can my kids go ice skating over there?" And I think they were going to cut through township property, get onto that lake.
>> I would say no, cuz it's still privately owned. >> But I feel like that's a big problem waiting to happen. Of course, >> it's a liability waiting to happen. >> I think we have no trespassing signs up on the property. I think so, too. >> Yeah. So, there there shouldn't that should instantly be a police issue and take them out of there. But, uh it's all private property.
>> Yeah. He thought it was a free ice skating rink. I'm like, "Ah, not so fast." >> No, it's not. >> You know, >> be careful though. Ice is that >> it's so dangerous. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The only difference is not that deep, so you wouldn't probably >> The only saving grace of not dredging
it. >> Yeah. >> Um 1515 Logan. Um that I guess there depends whether how we're going to sell that. It's ready for sale. We're going to put it out for quotes, bids, or we're going to do it
through auctioneer. Uh Kevin and I were talking about it. We kind of have a little bit of a game plan. Either way you want to go that we go through an auction or we go through advertise it for bids. It's whatever the council wants to do. >> Let's do bids. >> Bids. Okay.
>> That's not my That's me. I don't There's four more. >> What are you guys thinking? Like what's the advantages of one versus the other? I I truly don't have an opinion. I really don't know the difference. >> I'm in favor of bids. >> Auction is what just what you sounds
like. Everybody comes into a room, you know, somebody with an auctioneer gavvels and gets a a price. >> I was against the auction at first until I talked with Bill Gafal about it and then when Billy um educated me a little bit on it, he was a firm believer in the auction process.
>> What was the benefit? um you get a bigger scope of people that will they do a a much bigger advertising scope and you'll get a a broader uh range of people that will bid on it. >> It's worth the cost of the auction. >> I would call Billy if I were you and he
can tell you verbatim exactly what he told me. >> Commission fee with that or >> actually that was the reason why I didn't want that. >> That's the buyer pays it. >> Oh, really? >> Not the seller. >> Oh, that's different then. >> Yeah. no cost. I don't have to call Bill for that.
>> That's why I said, you know, for me it was a no-brainer because I didn't like it either. I'm like, why would we want to pay 10 points or whatever they pay for commercial? 10, 6, 10, whatever it is, five. Even if it's a point, you don't want to pay it. >> But would their bid be lower?
>> That's what I'm asked that question, too. And what Bill said was they don't have a problem paying the money because they want the property. And you get a again a broader group of people that will actually bid on it that will actually spend the money and purchase the property. >> What about the local biders? You think
they >> they can do it too. But if they don't >> if they don't make the bid, you know, then we just take the highest number. >> So is that auction binding? Like is it like if you know nobody really bids? >> We set a you know you set a reserve or
something. >> Set a reserve. >> Yeah. >> You know what? Reserve or minimum? You mean minimum? Yeah. Mineral. Yeah. A mineral. >> Okay. Oh, okay. You know, whatever. We think that uh you know, remember they're unimproved. It's an unimproved >> parcel. >> Yeah. >> So, whoever purchases the parcel has to
put in a significant amount of money into the improvements, >> sewer systems, uh electrical, everything that's got to go in. So, a normal lot that would go for, you know, quot 500,000. This one, you know, might be 100,000 or, you know, less. I you know I
don't know what the numbers are on an unimproved lot right now. I I really I don't have a clue. I'm not a realist. >> Can we put restrictions on what the property will be used for? >> Put any conditions you want on it. Consolidated >> that was already in the zone. That was
already approved. >> Well, no, but the thing is somebody could buy and reconsolate, but that's going to be the conditions that are in the the bid package. You can't reconsolidate. You have to build a six single family homes. It has to be the way it's approved. >> Exactly. And they there's other a lot of other things, but they're they're all going to be in that list.
>> They make that a condition of sale and that goes into a deed restriction that we transfer. So they cannot change that. >> Okay. Are any of those homes affordable housing? >> No, they didn't have to because of the only the six and they conform to the zoning. >> Okay.
>> I guess if you look at affordable in town, they'll probably the more affordable ones in town because they're smaller lots. But I mean, they're still going to probably >> I don't know. See, Greg, those are like, aren't they 10,000 or more? >> 10 to 14,000. >> Yeah. >> But I don't think that's >> that's ost
It's going to be interesting. I mean, I heard today that they were the the the Rafé subdivision. They're selling the lots. >> The who? >> The the Park Avenue subdivision. >> They're selling just the lots. >> What are they going a million? >> $5 million. >> How big are they? >> I don't know how big they are. Then
they're selling the houses on top of that. That's not even a clean house. That's just the land of there's they're offering they're getting offer numbers good and >> and Park Avenue. >> Wow. >> How big are these lots? They got to be big.
>> They're like they're I think acre. >> Oh, acre though. $5 million in >> just for the piece of property. >> Wow. >> How many lots is it? >> I think it was like 20 >> 25. Yeah, there was quite a few of them in there. Is that the horse one?
He's making a They are making a gift. >> You said there's 25. >> I didn't say Greg said >> I think there's 20 or 25 lots. >> Well, how many acres was that? That whole thing. It's not that big. >> It was like a flagship >> 25 acres of I don't think I didn't think we had it.
>> I forget. I think it was over It was over. So then the next one that'll be like that'll be on the corner of Logan and Wikipeka when they ultimately sell that 16 acres over there >> where the piece next to the roof piece that >> Yep. >> is you know also a developable
>> these are some big numbers. >> Yeah. I don't know if that that's just what I heard. I don't know how true it is. It was a rumor. So I >> they're getting 9 million for a condo in Aspbury. I mean you never know. I mean we're talking land now. >> I just think they have thought of that 10 years ago. >> I know 10. Yeah. Thanks man. Just rub it
in. >> Cannot. That's right. Yeah. >> So, I withdraw my suggestion. Can we get So, would we need to go out to bid for auctioneers or at least get bids for that? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Get proposals RFP. I think we do. >> Yeah. >> Professional service. They have a
license. >> It's I mean, based on that and >> like I said, I got it from Bill. That's it. >> Yeah. I trust Bill. I mean, >> cuz I was totally like I was I was totally against it, >> you know, until I heard that. I would say get them, look at it, and >> you set a minimum bid. If you don't get it, then you can refigure out what you
want to do. >> I mean, you set a minimum bid for the price of the property. >> Yep. Right. >> Right. If you don't get it through the auction because you know people are taking the auction price off the price, then you withdraw it and do it the other way. >> Mhm. Agreed. >> I like that idea. >> Or or based on the offers,
>> we may not want to do it anyway. >> Well, that's what I'm saying. If you if the offer comes in too low for whatever reason, you just >> No, no. The the auctioneers proposals I I I've never seen one so I don't know. >> I say we put it. >> Let's see what we get.
>> I think most of them will probably be the same. >> Yeah. >> I don't know what it is. I'm sure they should have standard. >> They should all be >> Well, that's the commission. But I think that the selling point would be to John's point >> and the number of people that they're going to be able to attract for the >> How are they reaching out?
>> That's the only thing that attracted me to it because I I said if we can open up the scope, >> that's their job. That's what they do, you know. You know, some do it better than others. >> That's the point. >> Yeah. >> Well, remember the realtors have their own, you know, if a realtor, you know,
goes to try to sell it. I mean, they're limited. The auctioneers are a little more broad scope with what they can pull in. I used to get those things from Max Span all the time because I went to a couple of those auctions and I have I get I still get mail from them and it's
been probably 20 years >> that I haven't dealt with them. But I went to a max span thing. I get the mail all the time. So whatever list they got, they must just keep building it and they keep sending stuff out. So they, you
know, they have the big mail list, too. >> There are people already knocking on the door for this property. >> I I think we're >> Yeah, it's going to sell. The local guys have already, you know, acquired. >> It's an easy one for local builders. Yeah.
>> And you could set the minimum high. Yeah, >> at least cover cost. >> Have we calculated what the whole cost of that has been? Can >> No, no, Rick. I know Ricky has. >> Okay. Yeah, >> it's about it's up there. >> Yeah, >> I should be able to recoup.
>> I had a number in my head. >> I think 2.7. >> Oh, look at that. >> 2.8. Close. >> I think you might be right. >> Mhm. >> But Ricky can tell us. >> Yeah, I think after all that we'll actually make some money. Yeah, we're gonna definitely we'll definitely recoup
and then once they come online, we'll get the >> we'll recoup all the tax revenue now, too. >> Same goes with the orchard, >> you know. I mean, that's you know, $5 million that'll go up to uh 50. >> Mhm. >> Okay, moving on. Next one. Larchwood
area lighting. Remember, we were doing the lighting at Larchwood, then we're going to go to Sax Indianole Farm. We started with Larchwood. We finally got the what I call the DR number from JC Pino, which is their design number. it's in their design group. They will be sending us a quote what it cost to do that or fix those lights. Once we get
that, then we'll be able to evaluate one, do you want to do largewood and then do you want to move the whole farm in Saxony? >> So, that that did come through in the last couple weeks. I think it was about a week and a half ago. Um, we also got some other >> have
have the police or you or what would the process be? And I think we discussed that would be the first I don't want to call it phase, but we can't do the whole town. So, how have we prioritized or the police have they prioritized other areas that need it? >> No, we just took it because some of the
residents that were complaining is dark and there's one light missing which they didn't help. So, that's this was going to be our test model and we're going to see what the cost was pretty much per length of road and figure out how we would go about paying for it or
assessing it or however you want to do it. But we have to wait for those costs from JCP now. And these will be some of the cheaper ones because these are actually just changing the head on the Cobra headlights that are there on the poles. When we get into like um old farm, the problem we have there, there's
not enough lights. >> So, we have to put new poles and lights in. So, that cost is going to be a lot more expensive than it is just to put change the fixture on the the light pole. >> So, I guess my qu So, I get all that. So I guess my question is have we had other
complaints in town that we have a we've made a list of priorities where >> just those just those three roads so far. >> Okay. >> More than some people say the lights are out. I mean we respond to that. We get JCP and all to fix the lights. So those go away. But people that are complaining
of bad lighting on the streets were those three roads. >> Those and West Allen I think we got >> but West Alenhurst they wanted that was kind of different. They want to put all the lights underground there. All the poles. No, that was one guy, but I think lights also. But anyway, I'm sure there's like
Rob says, there's different >> that that request was also in the design phase. They did we finally got the DR number for West Islanders >> for them to look at giving us a cost to bury all those lines over there. >> That ain't going to be cheap. >> No, that's not going to be cheap. >> There was an assessment district for you. >> That that would be an assessment
district >> because that's not going to be cheap, right? >> So, the whole section wants it done. >> Yeah. Well, that's what this one gentleman said. So we'll get a price and then he he said he kind of represented the community talk to everybody. >> Yeah. But I think when that number comes
out it's going to be very similar to >> I feel like though we should have >> we should have the police drive around that. >> Give me a second. I'll get there. >> Okay. Get there. >> Let's go gradually. >> Just one street.
>> It's like a couple blocks main street. >> You got to tear up everything. run the wire. >> Well, the transformers are the most expensive thing because you need ground transformers instead of aerial transformers. >> Yeah. >> So, once we come up with the cost and we determine whether it it works, doesn't
work, whatever, what would be the process to determine what other parts of town are needed without >> We would probably I would say we'd probably go on the website and just put it out to the public say if hey, you know, give do if you think your area is has poor lighting, let us know and we'll look at it. So, you don't think you're
going to get 27,000 responses? >> Yeah, we would. But I think but I think but I think then what we do is we tell we >> want their street name. >> I mean, other than that, because I think, you know, one of the problems we have is Larchwood wanted more lighting, >> right? >> You know, they didn't like the lighting that's there. It's too dim.
>> So, that's a more intense, not a lot more, but it's more intense lighting we're putting there because it is kind of dark there because of the spacing of the lights. So, I think if you kind of get got to get into a mixture of do you just want a different kind of lighting instead of the the yellowish lighting with the mercury vapor versus the LED
which is a more cleaner white light. You know, that's kind of one of the things you get into because most people don't like the white light because it's it's bright, >> right? >> You know, the stadium effect is much different than looking at a mercury vapor light. >> Greg, weren't they supposed to be doing 10% a year anyway? I I mean that was
>> Yeah, they were just changing Yeah, they were supposed to change the LEDs of certain things. I don't know if they're still doing if they're even doing that. I know they changed one down here across from the 10th hole that they put in >> the light or the whole thing. >> They did one light and two lights and he's complaining pretty seriously about
it. It was it was just one of the Cobra heads was changed to an LED fixture >> and the guy that lives right across the street from that is complaining about >> shines in his house. >> Yeah, it's like a beacon, you know, it comes into your house. So, it's bright. Seems like a good idea. Next thing you know, you're like, "Uh, not really interested." Lit it, light it,
>> stop sign. >> Yeah, great idea. >> So, they don't have them. What are they? Only one like color. I mean, they don't have >> No, they have they have different intensities, but it's, you know, they have it's more wattage, right? >> And they get brighter, but it's it's a
it's a whiter, cleaner light with the LED lights versus the old mercury vapor. >> Yeah. I mean, we we've got some really, you know, ugly >> most everything in town is is a mercury vapor. We don't have very many LEDs. >> So, we haven't. So, then they really haven't >> done the 10%.
>> If you look, if you go down and look across the street, right across from the 10th hole, look at the first light right at the intersection of W. >> I've seen it. It's pretty bright. >> It's it's that's that's a new LED light. >> But if we if they had done that or they were doing it, it would be a potential
bit of a cost savings to the municipality by having LEDs as compared to the regular lights. >> Absolutely. But that wouldn't make sense. Then JCPNL wouldn't make enough money. >> That's right. Because they don't make enough now.
>> But they're actually encouraged to LED switch over also because it helps them because when they get into the summer months, the demand is much less with LD LED circuits than it is. >> That's why I don't understand why they're not because we always we have pro the grid has problems as it is. I
don't I mean, but we went to a meeting. I forget if they came here or if we went to a meeting. JCPNL had a billion close to a billion dollar upgrade for all different uh sections of >> Yeah, they to major in structure.
>> But no light bulbs. >> Yeah, they mostly Yeah, most of those were was their transmission lines across the state which of spent on Yeah. >> Where's that new pole? Where am I riding by that? That that pole is sitting right by the >> It's on Logan.
the big metal pole. >> Yeah, it's Logan. >> I think it's Logan right in front of the school there. >> Oh, there's one on Wikipeka that because I haven't been on Wikipeka that comes through. >> Everywhere there's a turn, they had to put one of those. So, there's two of them internal to town, I think. I forget
what streets the >> the main line comes down. Not Rayir, it might be Ray. >> It goes down. >> Darlene. >> Yeah. >> So, at the west end of Darlene, there's one there. >> Then it turns down Corly's >> Cor. That guy's got it right on his lawn. >> Does he get an easement out of that
deal? >> Oh, right. We were talking about >> Does he get nobody complain? >> Does he get a little rent from that? >> That's a monster. >> No, there's probably though. >> It's a monster poll. >> All right, I digress. >> Okay, next one. Um,
the Cindy Lane thing. We're waiting for the D um LOI. Uh we're going to probably request the uh firm that did the yellow eye there to do a uh fill of isolated wetland portion. There's an isolated wetlands will give us a lot more land to use on that property depending what we
use it in the future. But it'd be a valuable piece because instead of losing about an acre, 3/4 of an acre of land, we can recoup that by filing for an additional permit there. Uh next thing is the stream cleanings. I'm walking the stream quarters tomorrow with Steve Higgins to see which streams
DPW can do with their new machine. And then the ones they can't, then I'll go and get the quotes. This is going to be mostly focused on the whale pond. We're going to start east to west on the whale pond. So that's the next big stream we go through. And then when we're done with that, we'll start cleaning up the little finger ones. And after our
fiveyear period goes through, we'll go back to the popppler. But we did get the popler brook done in two years. So, that was pretty good considering we thought it would take five. So, we made out pretty good on that one. I think I'm going to run in a little bit of trouble in whale pond because there's a couple of guys that put some rock bmss out
there that I'm going to take out and we're probably going to get an argument with him. But, that's the way life's going to go because if it causes flooding, you have backs up water on that stream quarter. But, >> I'll tell you about it first before I do it. >> Okay. >> Because you'll get the phone calls.
>> Get ready for the phones. Yeah. Um then the last thing is uh the light pole at popular and deal the developer is has ordered the parts. So that is in the works to get that left turn question. >> Yeah. >> That's great.
>> He told me that's all it was. I knew that one. >> It's still better than it was. It's so much better. >> Yes, it really is. Although I did get somebody quote me at the gym this morning um asking about it was more paving popular but got into the conversation about the backups the
traffic. I know the chief was talking about or we were talking about you were talking about putting changing the light or the signage on corner of deal making the right onto popppler >> put stop sign there >> stop sign right okay
>> we're I'm planning on working that through and doing that >> okay >> as the school gets closer we know probably this spring we're going to have to put the sign board out there in the spring and say you know new new traffic pattern type thing and there's a stop sign there now and just kind of probably have the police there to give warning Right.
>> But I think once school is built there, that's going to be a major league problem. >> And put the school signs maybe. Right. Like >> yeah, that's going to be tough on that at that turn there because I don't over sign it. >> Be outside the school so people know and >> Yep. school zone ahead. We can put it down deal road school zone ahead
>> or on Popler coming from West Park. Like I feel like there's a few areas that people don't >> That's Yeah, that's a probably a very good idea. I'll do that on Popppler. They don't have a cop out there in the morning, do they? Thank you. >> So, it's very expensive. It's $500 for a
session extra for the school to pay >> a day. >> $500 for the morning. If they want it for the afternoon, it's $1,000 for the day. >> How many hours are they out there? >> It's a 4 hour minimum. They have to according to >> four. >> Yeah, that's according to our good
contract. That's who's there negotiating mess. >> So, they have they have um >> another mess up. Wow. they have. So on high traffic days like a like a Friday afternoon >> um or like a holiday they'll get the cop
but it's cost prohibitive to get it every day. So >> so the board just to let you know >> sheep >> it's a private school. >> It's private. >> Oh at West the board is that just part of the police department's regular duty? >> That's their um part of their agreement. So that's that's what they charge.
>> Got No, no. What he's asking is I think in front of the high school in West Park, is the board of ed paying for that? >> Is that what you're ask is that what you're asking? >> I would and I don't know. Is there a differentiator? No disrespect. >> I looked it up. >> Private and public. >> Yeah. So public I think it's covered by
um >> private special. >> Yeah, it's it is covered by the board of ed because we had that issue over in Asbury with crossing. We have a lot of crossing over there. I mean, it's up to a town whether they want to allow a private school to benefit from guard, but >> just going to throw this out there.
Could I mean, could there be like security out there that could direct it? >> So, security would love to be out there. Um, they're not allowed to be in the middle of the street. >> We tried the same thing with the road programs. >> What if um I'll throw one more I'll
throw I'll throw I'll throw one more idea out there. Could they potentially through >> I don't know how you would do it. We could try to figure it out, but could they could they hire a class three police officer, which is basically the hourly they only work a school year.
They are in the school systems currently right now. And they uh you know, Ocean has them. We don't have them in Asbury. We had uh regular police officers, which is real expensive, but I mean, you're better off doing the class 3es. I don't know if that's a possibility, but I
would maybe look into that. Maybe there's a possibility that there's a way to do a pass through that, you know, they we they the cops can hire. No, well, it would be the school system. It have to be maybe a shared service agreement, but that would be then you
would have that person all day and then >> you just, you know, use him out there and then bring him in, right? You know, >> right? Use him for security. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. Because you can never have enough >> rate for some for what's like the typical hourly rate. >> It's not what you think. It's like
something real low. >> Okay. >> It is it's not it's you know I think it's like$25 or $30 an hour by the >> And there are police officers that have to be retired within the last three or five years. Three to five years. And >> they're hard to find. That's the only problem. I was just about to say that
>> they're real hard to find. >> Everybody wants to work. Got it. >> Everybody wants them and somebody retires. >> They want to retire. >> But it's a good idea though. >> Are there crossing guards? >> There's no crossing guards because they can't be in the middle of the street.
>> Only the police can regulate traffic. Okay. >> Per the police rules. >> Yeah. Crossing guards just cross. >> Where are the buses supposed to be when they're not I know they drop off and then pick up, but in the middle where are they supposed to be? >> They have a yard. They're it's a bus
company like any other. >> You still use what's his name? >> Sean. They service. Yeah. It's the same bus like Seanto services Neptune and >> Yeah. All different in the yard because there's lines of buses across in the neighborhood that
sit there for hours. >> No, the buses. That's not a school thing though. That's the bus company. There's nothing. >> Yeah. Because Seamat will go from them. They'll pop over to Asbury. They'll go over they'll go all, you know, their contracts are, >> you know, they might drop off at you, but they're not sitting around waiting
to go pick the kids up. There's no way. They have so many different runs. >> Believe me, I've had to deal with them where they don't show up half the time because they jam-pack so many runs into their day. Um, but if they're out there,
they're out there all day. >> They're out there for hours. >> It's my neighborhood. bus. >> No, they're >> I think they're private private. >> There's a bunch of private bus companies that operate in the area. Could be the school. It could be others, but yeah, I think it's a specific to the bus
company. It doesn't have anything. >> Yeah. If you're using Seaman, they're definitely not sitting around. They run them ramping. >> Yeah. >> Okay. But that's a great idea. The class 3 officer, I'll pass them along. >> Who should I tell them to talk to about it? >> Talk to me and the chief. >> Okay.
That's all I had. >> It was >> two questions. One, is there any way >> in order? >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Have half have it. >> Want to do the correct? >> Um, >> is there any way to get a copy of that?
Just so when you're going through it, I'm more of a visual person. So, as you're saying it, I'm like writing and taking notes, but it would just be easier if I had the sheet and I could write next to it. That's one request. >> I forgot to send it to Dave today, but I will send it. I appreciate that so much >> cuz I can't send them to you because of
the rules, but Dave CC's you on them and then solves the problem. >> Thank you. >> But I will definitely do that for the next >> and I appreciate that. The other question I had was, is there any consideration for looking at Kwell again just to see if there's anything else that we can do um to beautify this
property? I took a a tour of it. It's really a beautiful property and it's gorgeous. I mean, the lakes and just everything that's there and the people that excavated and took out the um structure did a beautiful job really. >> Um but there just seems like there could
be so much more for the residents. And I know I sent the email and whatever, but I was just wondering if that needed to go on a future agenda item or how that even works. When you say beautify, you talking about trees, flowers. >> Like there's a trail there, but it's all, you know, there's
>> forget the trails everywhere on the trail. At one point was what was through the trails. I don't know what happened. >> I mean, there's you can't >> Did we ever settle the easement issue like where that property really is? >> Across the street that or across the pond across the pond.
>> Yeah, I think we did. >> I think we did cuz I haven't heard that since >> it was our property. >> We put the flags out there and they didn't complain about it. >> Oh, I remember. Somebody moved though right out of that group. >> I don't remember. >> I think to answer your question, we had intended to put bathrooms out there to compliment
>> just for the little park. Yeah. >> And then I know there's talks about putting a a um pavilion out there >> and some other things, but those are all in the works through grants and if we get the grant obviously that would then kind of push other things that go along
with it. But uh >> there's a grant right now. I think uh the recreation director is looking into a grant to put a pavilion out there. >> It's just But there's only five parking. >> Well, that's what the bathroom was also going to increase the parking spaces on
I guess where the house was. Essentially, the parking would push into that area a little bit. >> Mr. P really kind of gets into depending on what we put out there, how many parking we need. >> Right. Right. >> We talked about a grant too for trails through either Mammoth County or somebody else. So, I I'm sure Mike's
looking into all of that because that's been discussed because you could do a whole little loop around there. >> Um, Mike's had a couple ideas where he wanted to do like those umbrellas and like those permanent concrete like uh chairs so you can kind of chill and watch the water. >> Parks and Rex is going to try to figure
out if they want to have some kind of p, you know, stand up paddle boat or stand up paddle board classes. >> Um, but yeah, ultimately you just don't want people swimming in that, you know, unguarded. But uh yeah, because we left these steps down to the water. So all
any kind of activity, water activities would be perfect for launch kayaks or paddle boards, even if they're just educational courses to teach kids how to do it >> would be something I'd recommend looking into because that would be perfect for that. >> Yeah, I haven't heard an update from Mike, but he definitely has some ideas.
>> He's been out for a while. >> He's back on the 12th, so I'll get him to write up a summary and then I'll share. >> That would be awesome. That'd be terrific. Thank you. I got nothing. >> Nothing. Wow. That's good. >> Happy new year. Very thorough. Very thorough.
>> Happy new year. >> Sure. Are we going around again? >> Okay. Did Yeah. You can ask Greg, >> but I can ask other questions. >> No, we're just on Greg right now because we we want to So, we talked last summer about trying
to improve the traffic on Deal Road and having the pole moved. So we can maybe put another lane, right? >> Yeah. >> Where are we with that? >> Well, the developer just got approvals in December. >> Yeah. >> Like at the December at a special meeting. >> Okay. >> So that is in the works. I'm talking to
their attorney and we're getting the plan. They they're going to prepare the plans for us and we're just going to sign off on the application. >> So I would venture to say we'll probably get that submitted to DT DOT probably by February. >> Hopefully maybe in like early March >> and for that permit to get that widened.
Once we get the permit to widen widen. >> You think we could get it done before the summer? Is that realistic? >> We're going to try. >> It's really just a matter of we got to get certain people to push this. We're going to try. >> That's our goal. >> Yeah.
So, one of the failures of the urban jug handle >> when it was sold to the planning board >> was I thought that, you know, people were going to use that if you're coming uh I guess westbound on deal, you were going to go through the complex to get out to 35 North.
>> I wonder if there may be some signage or maybe some way to sell that because >> they're just the sign isn't up yet. That's the problem. Yeah, cuz I think that was one of the things that was sold to the planning board back in the day that that was going to somehow alleviate some of that. I don't think most people
even know that they can get out cuz it's also it's confusing. You got to kind of weave and then you get out by Chick-fil-A over there. >> But maybe some signage in the future something might >> Yeah, people are going to the corner and just >> Yeah, they have to put the sign. That's one of the things is under punch list. They have to put signage. >> One of the last things we're working on.
>> It's not the most convenient, but it's better than sitting at that light. >> It's confusing especially summertime. There's a lot of traffic in that center. >> Sure. >> And to go kind of know that you go all the way to the stop sign, turn left. That's the least traffic, but a lot of people turn by strollers there, get in the middle of all that. That's >> that's a problem.
>> Yeah. Pulling out of there is impossible. >> Yeah. >> It's uh >> I think it's a like a sign would just >> go straight for Route 35, >> you know. Yeah. One of the things also just to bring up stros is I don't know >> one I kind of already talked it over with Colleen but I think we're going to
probably go back to the developer and ask them to put some kind of a fence split split rail fence up >> between that road we call it which is the slip road and the strollers parking lot area and this because there's so many kids >> in the summertime that run around there
they don't realize that they're in a road >> Yeah. >> running across that parking lot. So we just kind of want to keep them in the parking lot and keep them out of road A. Right. There's like that one table like in the middle >> and that's they all kind of congregate away from the window when it spreads out. It gets pretty pretty crowded in there.
>> It's a good idea. >> Okay. >> Okay. Uh we had Dave, you've got comprehensive artificial intelligence on there and you have your updates. I know we have close session also. So >> the AI is uh Councilman, but Okay, I'll
go real quick. Um in reference to resolution 26-011 uh that's the ocean glade site that is the New Jersey D hazardous discharge site remediation fund. Um that resolution is authorizing us uh as a
public entity to apply for the HDSRF which will give us uh remediation and discharge and uh other assessment uh funds to the tune of 2,800 000
and based on that we will then be able to turn that into a remediation and recon redevelopment plan of that site. Okay. The other item I have is the Route 71
>> the Route 71 bridge over New Jersey Transit. Um I think some of you know about it. If you don't, I made copies of where it's located. Kevin, can you just pass that around for me? Um, here's a where the the state is going to acquire
property from us. Uh, right now we're going through the property valuation. It's a real tiny piece of properties. Probably not worth much at all. Um, they're going to obtain an appraisal report or an administrative determination. I think administrative determination will probably be the way to go get the value. Then they're going
to present an offer of fair market value for the property. And then um the third thing is if any personal negotiations if we're not happy with the price. So right now you don't have to do anything. This is just a heads up and that um once I
get the information for part two and three uh then I'll come back to the council. >> And what's the long-term goal for this? >> This is uh they're they're doing that um help me out here Greg. They're doing a bridge on Route 71. So they needed more easement
>> the gas station I think over And there's a gas station on the long range side. Yeah. >> On the long range side. >> They're they have to raise the bridge for this to get the trains under. The trains have got a little bigger. >> So that's >> taking up a bigger part. >> So south
south of the gas station. The golf station. >> Yes. So we were notified. Now Greg made a good point. >> South or north? >> It's not it's not the Gulf station. >> No, I think it's north of the Synokco. >> Synco. Yeah. >> Mhm. It's by the Sokco station by Dar
Dario kind of southwest. >> Remember where uh where the VFW was? >> Yeah. Kind of near where the VFW was piece of property right there. >> Developer bought that and then they decided to do this >> with Dario. >> But it's on the long side. So they'll probably get
the Greg made a good point. >> The bridge. >> So we're we got this probably as a notification because it's on the long run side. They'll probably get the money, not us. Come on. >> It's their property, not ours. But I guess we're 200 ft, so we get notified. >> Oh, man.
>> Darn it. >> Oh, well, >> I'm going to put never mind. It's not worth the paper. >> Never mind. >> Uh, yeah. Okay. Comprehensive artificial intelligence review. >> So, we had uh when we were all down at um
>> the league, >> thank you. You know, I was going to say Atlantic City, but I couldn't think of the week. So, I was still um I attended a AI session and for you know, full disclosure, I do that during the day. Definitely one of the things I sell. Um but they did talk about um how much AI
can improve. It's not just for business. There's so much that can be done within the government. So, um we drafted a resolution and we can discuss it in more detail. All it says is in theory um the council agrees or supports a
resolution to have the manager initiate an AI study if you will to see what departments uh could be improved with AI. That's in theory what it says. So thoughts, comments? >> No, we go look at it and check into it.
I mean I mean it's the way of the future for sure. So >> good stuff. >> So we'll put this on for the next meeting. Yeah. After everybody takes a Yeah. Yeah. Because they got two weeks to look at it and stuff. >> Everybody has copy now. Y >> sent out a copy.
>> Cool. Um so I know we have >> to get AI whether you want it or not. >> We have a couple close session items. Do I have a motion to go into close session? >> I'll make comment. >> Uh downstairs for this meeting. Um, as long as I'm here, the Kwell property hold the
consideration there's parking potentially on the west side and there's if you do a 1 ft drop and a twoft drop, the elevations function and it becomes a semiflat property. So,
hold that thought. May or may not >> parking on the left and I'm out of here. >> I'm out of here. Yeah. >> Okay. Motion to go into close session. >> I have a public comment, too. >> We're going to go downstairs and do public comment. >> Says public comment. >> I understand that. But we also have
close session that we have to get into and we'll open up public comment down. >> Thank you. >> But that's okay. >> Kevin is uh just because you're the lawyer. I want to ask >> this is one it's one meeting upstairs downstairs. It's one continuous one. You
have to have one public comment session at the meeting. So can >> I just want to make sure we're not doing anything drop. You don't have functionality. >> That's what motion to go in close session. >> Motion. >> Motion. >> Second.
>> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> Jesse, can we have a roll call, please? >> Sure. Mayor Naplutani >> here. >> Deputy Mayor Fischer >> here. >> Council members Zera >> here. Kaplan and Telerica >> here. >> Can everyone please stand as we do a
pledge of allegiance and remain standing as we do a silent prayer. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. Please remain standing. You may be seated. The notice requirements of the Open Public Meetings Act for this meeting have been satisfied. A copy of the annual notice was sent to the Aspbury Park Press, sent to the Coaster, posted in town hall, and filed in the office of the municipal clerk on December 18th,
2025. There are two fire exits to my right that'll take you to the front of the building, one to my rear that'll take you to the back. If you do have a cell phone, please turn it off. And if you do need to make a phone call, please step outside. Before we get into council
comments, u do it the other way around. You want to do it this way? >> This way. >> Okay. We are going to do some presentations and tonight is pretty exciting because we've got Eagle Scouts here. So, I'm going to ask the council to come down off the deis and we are
going to honor some great young men. Yes, it is shortcut. >> I meant to put Good evening everyone. This is an exciting night because we have six Eagle Scouts being honored here tonight. So, I'm going to call you up. You can hang
out here with the council. We have some proclamations. We want to hear a little bit about what you guys did. So let's start off with Suvi Asnani, Nate Bender, Nick Billows, Mateo Burgess,
John Clifton Hanley, and Brian Woods. Hey, man. How you doing? Hey. Hey. Hey. How you doing? >> How you doing? >> I'm doing good. How are you? >> This is good stuff. >> All right. >> Yeah.
Uh why don't you guys come in the middle cuz this isn't about me. It's about you guys. Come on over here. Let's go. Let's get three and three on on each side. Come on. This is great. Um I'll tell you what a feat to get where
you guys did is absolutely amazing. I think that um to get there was phenomenal. I never made it. I can be honest. I I said it. I think I got the first or second class. Um, but becoming
an Eagle Stout is just really something that I think is exceptional. I think you guys have, you know, really put your minds to it and it's just I I'm I'm very impressed with it and going to your ceremonies um last month and this month
have been fantastic. Thank you for having me. But let's start off um I want to get the boys up here. Let's start off with Suvi. So, Suvi, explain a little bit about how your final project went.
So, I hosted an e-waste recycling drive for Ocean Township as well as neighboring communities. Um, with the help of the council, DPW um office of emergency management, the police department, um I was able to host a 4-hour drive at the pool and collect
over 8,000 lbs of e-waste from residents. Um, yeah, over 8,000 lbs in just 4 hours. Um, there was almost 300 cars from Ocean as well as neighboring towns that showed up and it was awesome and I'm really grateful for all the help I received from the township.
>> I got a question or two. Hold on. First of all, I I'm remissed back there. I see our assemblywoman, Dr. Margie Don. Come on up here, doc, cuz I I think you have something, too. So So, Suie, how successful was this project that you did?
I was not expecting to get nearly as much as I did. So, I'll consider it really successful. That's >> what I'd like to hear. What's next on the plate? Cuz this was pretty big. I mean, how you going to top this one? >> So, I hosted another e-waste recycling drive this year at the Greenfest. And
while it was a smaller scale, I still collected a couple thousand pounds of e-waste um from residents. So, that was awesome. Um, I mean hopefully colleges in the future and um, yeah, um, hopefully hosting more e-way drives for the township is yours to come by.
Su, I I really don't think you're going to have a problem with college. I mean, I'm I'm serious. I mean, I think there's going to be a lot of people that want to pick you up. So, we have proclamations this evening. Come on over here, Docs. I know you have one with us as well. I'm definitely not going to read all six of
them. I'll give you a little uh a piece of mind from the township and then I will go up to the county and then we'll stop with the state. So we'll start with the guy at the bottom and then we'll work our way up. So, Suvit the first uh
proclamation is from the council and I'm just going to read uh you know whereas Suvi Asani a member of the boy scout troop 70 of the boy scouts of America was recognized at a special court of honor for attaining the rank of Eagle
Scout on January 10th 2025. And it goes on to describe about suvite. So this is from the township of ocean the mayor and council. Well, here you go, Sevite. This is number one. So, wait, we got more. Hold on. Uh, sending regards from
the county, we have our board of commissioners, commissioner Tom Arnon, director, along with the other commissioners have a certificate of recognition for your commitment. >> We got it. I thought we had a dead
battery. for your commitment and dedication to scouting. That is earned Suvit Aani, the rank of Eagle Scout in the Boy Scouts of America. Again, Troop 70 Ocean Township. This is from the five member commission board in Mammoth County. So, there you go. That's number
two. Hold on. Hold on, Doc. I got I got another one here. This one's actually I I got to tell you, I I'm I'm thinking about swiping one of these because I Hold on, Suvid. I got to get you. Somebody didn't put them in order for
me. There's Nick. >> Wasn't Brian. No, it wasn't you. There we go. Sie. So, you also have one from Mammoth County Clerk and newly elected Republican state chair Christine
Hanland, who's al also an Ocean Township resident. She stopped by my house this morning to also give a recognition, which she has a recognition. And this is what I was going to steal. I was going to take the coin at the top. I thought this was great. No, it's a Mammoth
County Clerk coin, but it's still cool, right? >> Yeah. Very cool. >> I like that. It's good stuff. So, our clerk is congratulating you, which is awesome. Okay, so there you go. Look at this. He's got a pile of stuff. He's going to fill up that wall. And now I'm going to hand it over to the doc.
>> Yeah. Well, that coin is pretty cool. That kind of takes the cake. I was going to say we have a framed citation, but um this is from the New Jersey State Senate and General Assembly. Um and we are so proud of everything that you've done. I know I came to your c ceremony um and
have just been so inspired by everything you've done. So congratulations. This is for you. Um it's signed by Senator Vin Gopal as Luan Peter Paul and myself, Margie Donlin. So congrats. >> Thank you, Doc. Trying to get myself in order over here.
All right, next up, Nate Bender. So, Nate, what do we got going on here? What did you do? Uh, sure. Um, so I did a project in Alair State
Park. I marked uh I think it was about 20 miles of trails. uh red, no not orange, blue and white. Um and I also renovated the bulletin board they have there and it was like I like the project a lot because I um used to go there a
lot. Um the bike so it was it was great. >> Colors uh orange, blue and white. >> What do they represent? >> Oh those are the different uh trails at the park. >> Yeah. Any other plans to continue this work?
>> Um, I'm not sure. I'm going to go back there and test out the trails, but um um I'm just looking at colleges right now. Applying for scholarships mostly. >> All right, beautiful. Where do you want to go to college? >> Um, probably DC&J or J University.
>> Awesome. Suvid, I forgot to ask you, what's the plan? Like what what do we want to do when we go to college? >> Um, hopefully mechanical engineering at Princeton. Okay. Um, but yeah, mechanical engineering somewhere. Ruters, uh, Princeton. >> Yeah, he's not going to have too much
trouble here. All right. Okay. And what's your plan? What do you want to study? >> Uh, I'm not too sure yet. Probably English, history, something like that. >> Don't worry about it. I still didn't figure it out either. Okay. We are going to start again with Nate. Here is a
proclamation from the town of Ocean. We have our Mammoth County Cler. Uh, actually our commissioner. Where? She didn't put these in order either for me.
Here we go, Nate. I found it. See, it's a little He I think I I I'll have to get the director on this one. He handed them to me and he didn't put them in order. There you go. And then we have our clerk. You too get a coin, which is awesome. There you go. It's from our
clerk. Come on over, Doc. >> There you go. >> Yeah. So, um Nate, congratulations. Um we have a citation from the Senate and the General Assembly to present to you. Um and I I just want to say thank you for all the work that you've done in the air state park when I was a resident up
in North Jersey and I was living up there, but I wanted to so badly to move down here to the shore. I wanted to come down and I had a list of apartments I was going to look at, but all the hotels are really expensive to stay in. So, I ended up camping out in aair State Park that weekend while I looked for
apartments down here. Um, and uh, it did need some work back then. So, I appreciate all the work that you've put into it, but um, thank you again and good luck in school. Congratulations. >> Good job. Next up, we have Nicholas Billows. What's up, Nick? Good seeing
you, man. >> Good seeing you, too. >> All right, so explain it. So, my eagle project I did with um the Conserve Wildlife Foundation of New Jersey and the New Jersey Department of Fish and Wildlife and I worked with ospreys because I had an internship down in
Barnagate Bay and I felt this was how I could get back to kind of where I was and um so I built an osprey nest. I fixed two that had been damaged. One of them fell down and one of them was just damaged. So, um, it turned out to be a
great success and I went back later in the summer cuz we did the project in the early spring and they were still up. They were up in all the way through the fall and I hope they're up now still. >> Do do the osprey stay there all year long or do they go south? >> In the in the winter they go down south.
the they go really far away and then they actually had come back by the time we started construction on or not construction but um fixing the nests and as we were driving away we actually saw an osprey uh perch on the on the um nest so that was really cool.
>> That's a real cool site. I saw one on De Lake about 25 years ago. It's wild when they go in. How many Any idea how many nests we have >> in Barnagate Bay? There's 30 I want to say there's like 32 nests and back in the '60s there was only two breeding
pairs east of the Mississippi. Wow. All right, Nick. College plans. What are we doing? >> Uh, I committed to the United States Naval Academy and I'll be studying naval architecture. WOW. There you go. There we And that awesome. I I'll tell
you. Let's like What did I do with my life? Yo, Nick, that's from us from the council. You have again sure I get one here. Nope. Of course not. That was Woods.
There we go. Nick from the commissioner board, which is awesome. And then, of course, you know, I'm going to get one of these coins. I'm going to call her up. I like that, Nick. That's from our clerk. And now we're going to call over our assemblywoman, the doc, over here. Let's go, Doc.
>> Congratulations, Nick. I have a citation for you as well. I was fortunate to attend your ceremony and I just want to say congratulations. Thank you for everything you've done. I think one of the reasons we all live here is because we love being around the outdoors, whether it's around the ocean, the birds, the lakes. Um, so thank you for
helping to preserve the birds and their habitat. I know there was an osprey nest just recently taken down in Allenhurst. So if anyone wants to do a project going forward and find a new place for it, you know, maybe someone can do that and work on that. But congratulations and good luck to you at the Naval Academy. >> Thank you very You're welcome.
>> Impressive again. All right, next up, Mateo Burgess. Where are you? There you are, buddy. How are you doing? >> Good. How are you? >> Where's your popwork? Oh, there he is. His dad's an employee here in Ocean
Township. And I'll tell you what, one of the greatest. Love you, Barer. All right, come on over here. Let's see what we got here. Uh, explain the project real quick. So, uh, I worked with the Veteran of
Foreign Wars Association and, uh, they needed a place to collect all of the flags that people needed retired. So, I built a flag box about 3ft cube flag box with like a lid and a
latch on the bottom that opens and uh to make it easier for them to have one spot to collect all their flags. And then I did my own flag retirement ceremony to respectfully send off a couple flags. >> Wow. Good. Where where's the box now? >> Uh it's right outside the Neptune VFW.
>> Oh, awesome. So, you went over with Neptune's VFW. That's great. How many flags do they usually collect a year? Do you have any idea? >> Uh, no. But they told me like the week after I installed the box that they had already emptied it like three times. So, a lot of flags. >> All right. Now, I'm not going to tell
anybody. But did that help out at all? >> Uh, he helped me with putting together the box, but it was my like design and blueprint and stuff. >> I'm sure it was cuz he's not a blueprint guy at all. All right. Uh, here we go. Mateo, you got one from us.
All righty. You have one from the commissioner board. There you go. And of course, our county clerk and the doc is coming down here. >> Your framed uh citation. I hope hope you put this on your wall in your room. But
again, from the college room. Where are you going to college? me to ask. >> Uh, I'm still waiting for a bunch of colleges to get back to me, but I'm hoping to go to somewhere like MIT or Lehi if they get back to me. >> And what do you want to study? >> Uh, architectural engineering.
>> Oh, fantastic. >> Wow. Good. >> Great. >> Awesome. >> It's just perfect. So, congratulations. Again, this is from the Senate or General Assembly, and your project is so important. Um, just got to I know the one out here uh in Ocean Township, we just got to make sure people don't put their ballots in that box. So, at the
VFW, you probably won't have that same problem. So, but congratulations. >> Thank you so much. >> Thank you, Doc. Give him a big round of applause. >> Awesome. That's great. Uh, John Clifton Hanley, what's up, John? How are you?
>> Good. All right, you're on. So, my project >> figured it out by the fifth one. Not bad. It took right from me. So, my project, I worked with one of our local hospitals, Jersey Shore Medical Center, and I held a large-scale drive
for clothing and other amenity items like toiletries and whatnot. And I worked I held this drive through our local church that we meet at, the United Methodist Church, as well as my church in Redbank, which is Tower Hill. And I also held I did a little drive for
magazines with our local library down there. So, I worked with the hospital's volunteer services department to collect all of these items and have them for patients in need that don't have like family nearby or access to these items.
Like they might be let out of the hospital and they might not have a change of clothes. And along with doing this, we reorganized we moved shelves and we reorganized their closets so that other people can do similar drives like this in the
future cuz a lot of people do these drives for the hospital like my school's um health club, healthcare club. So yeah, good stuff. >> Any other plans? Are you going to go into the medical industry when you get,
you know, when you get out of college? Is that the plan? >> Yeah, I'm thinking about pursuing nursing, but I'm not 100% sure. And yeah, I don't know exactly where I'm going as hole either, but >> I'll figure it out. >> Any favorites? I like seeing hole. Okay, good one. But you haven't decided yet.
>> No, I'm not. >> All right, that's okay. Don't worry. The doc's happy over there. All right, come on over here, John. I got one from us. There you go. We got one from the commissioners. There you
go. We have one from our county clerk. Let me double Yep. Made sure that one's there. And the dock's coming up. There you go. Another framed one. Another framed one going on your wall. Um so congratulations. Uh thank you for your project. I can imagine how important
that is uh for patients coming into the hospital, especially at one of their most vulner vulnerable times in their lives, and to have that support to go out to know that they're they're being looked after and cared for. And uh so thanks for going the extra mile to do all that. And I'm so glad you're going into nursing. We definitely need more
nurses. Even if you don't know exactly what you want to do in the healthcare field, sometimes just taking a step in the right direction and whole world start opening up and you'll find the right place for you. So congratulations. >> Good money, too. >> Oh, >> good paying job. Trust me. Don't be a teacher like me.
Okay, up next, Brian Woods. >> Oh. So, >> uh, so my project, uh, like Cliff said, the church we have our meetings at, the United Methodist Church, there was a stone kind of buried in the ground. They
didn't know what it was. Um, so I did a little digging, a little history project, and I built uh like a monument out of flower boxes around it. Nice. What kind of flowers you put in there? >> I don't think we even put flowers. We put not flowers cuz they were going to die. We did it in the winter. So, we put
uh some plants, perennials. >> Oh, perennials that they'll just keep coming up every year. Do they Now, who takes care of it? >> Uh supposedly me. So, I'll keep coming back. >> So, we'll keep going back seeing how they are. Maybe plant some more if they happen to die. >> All right. With college plans, what do we got?
>> Uh I currently go to Brookdale for mechanical engineering, >> but hopefully plan to transfer to Ruckers next year. >> Let me tell you something. Smart move. We had another kid here before and I'm like, Brookdale is smart. Both my boys, my one's going there now, the other one went there. It's a big money saver. But
the rest of you guys go away far and go expensive. They're all ready to write the checks out. All right. Well, um, so you want What were you going to study again? I'm sorry. >> Mechanical engineering. >> Nice. All right. Good deal. Where do you want to go for the four-year? >> Uh, Ruckers. Oh, good. Good deal. State
school. All right. We'll start off with the council. We have the county commissioner board. I'm going to fill this wall up. I'll tell you, these kids are lucky. That's from our clerk and the doc. And of
course, I'll tell you, seeing that this is you guys are unbelievable. >> I know. What a crew. I mean, this entire team up here is just so diverse. All their projects have been amazing. Incredible group of leaders. I just can't be more proud of being from Ocean Township here and everything that you've
done. So, congrats to the whole group. Congrats, Brian, on your project and your um your your work um preserving this stone and making sure it's a special place for people to come visit. And uh very smart going to Brookdale. I hope my daughter makes that same decision.
>> I bet you do, Doc. Let's give him a big round of applause. I I I want to especially thank the parents out here that have supported these boys because honestly guys, without their support, this is not happening. Okay, you guys, as my
grandmother would say, keep the nose to the grindstone. Keep getting it done. Finish that college degree cuz you guys have a phenomenal future ahead of you. There's so much to do. And I'll tell you, each of you bring something really dynamic to the table here. So, thank you
boys for coming out here tonight and letting us honor you. Um, I know we gave it a little bit of levity tonight cuz we went to a couple of your ceremonies and you know there's not as much levity there, but we figured let's have a little fun with it tonight. But let's give them all another big round of
applause. All right, parents. We can take some pictures and then uh we'll take a quick break and we'll get back into business. Make sure you direct it. >> Yeah. Grab the steak one. Everybody get together.
Yes. >> All right. There you go. >> Almost. Leave a message. >> Thank you. Sorry about that. >> Congrats. >> Good night. >> Thank you. >> Good night.
>> Wow. That's uh good stuff. I'm going to start with council comments. We're going to start down at the end with Deputy Mayor Dave Fischer. Go ahead, Dave. >> Thank you, Mayor. Happy New Year to everybody. I want to congratulate our new fire chiefs on taking that role. It's always impressive uh for those guys. Congratulations to the Eagle
Scouts who just left. Um you know, every time I go to one of these ceremonies, I'm always blown away how, you know, impressive these kids are the future leaders of America, and it restores my faith in humanity when I see kids doing great things. So, that's all I've got. Mayor, >> thank you, sir. And let's go over here
to Councilwoman Kaplan. >> I uh as usual echo Deputy Mayor Fischer's um comments. We went to beautiful ceremonies at Oak President Wanamasa on New Year's Day and um really congratulations to everyone uh in the
fire department. They really do do a great job for our town and uh and thank you. Um semiquincentennial, the America 250 anniversary is coming up. We have a bunch of great events um enhancements to our to our usual events.
So, if anyone has any ideas or wants to get involved, they can contact me. Um anyone up here, Jen Nordstrom, um we're really excited for this year to honor our country. Thank you. >> Thank you, Councilwoman. Councilman Sarah, >> thank you, Mayor. Uh echoing all of
their comments for the fire chiefs, the Eagle Scouts. Okay, Councilwoman uh couple of more um for uh Chamber of Commerce first event this year is taking place uh at Outback Steakhouse. It's our first time there. It'll be Tuesday,
January the 20th at 5:30. Um it is uh light fair cash bar only 15 bucks uh for new members uh which is great. It'll be our first one and many more to come. On the same topic of the chamber, uh keep your eyes out for the uh Chamber of Commerce scholarship application that
should be coming out next week. Uh you can go to the website gootcc.com uh.org, excuse me. Uh the applications online, fill it out. Uh they will be due the first week in February and our lunchon is uh going to be in March. So any questions, feel free to go to the
website or reach out to our executive director uh Regina. Thanks. or you can contact the new president down here, Rob Asera. So, congratulations, Rob, on that new position down here. >> Thank you. >> All righty. Next up is president of the IAAT,
>> Councilwoman Terico. >> Thank you. Um, you guys said it all. Thank you very much for inviting me to all of these special events. Congratulations to the new chiefs, Chief Serantino and Chief Horn. Um, on New
Year's Day, it was very special ceremonies and also the flag raising. Um, I enjoyed all of it. I just wanted to say that the Shade Tree Environmental Commissions this month has been cancelled, so we'll pick back up next
month and um, thank you. Happy New Year to everyone. >> Thank you, Councilwoman Dave Brown. Mayor, very quickly, just to congratulate all the Eagle Scouts and happy new year to everyone. Thank you, sir. Uh, yes. Happy new year to everyone. Uh there's been questions
about the calendar. I believe they're on their way if you haven't already received it. Um again, I will echo the sentiments on our Eagle Scouts. That was absolutely fantastic. Uh loved seeing that. We also, you know, I want to congratulate Ed Horn for doing his
second round as chief over in Wana Massa. And I think for the first time, we've got two brothers. One is the chief of the police department and one is the chief of Oakhurst Fire Department. So, the Sorantino brothers right now. Congratulations to you two guys. We also
had a we were the first town in the county to raise the 250 commemorative flag at the museum on uh January 1st. So, we were the first ones there. We had our county commissioner
director and we had our clerk there and we raised the flag and I'm sure they're going to be going up all over this uh county at least. Um deal and 35. We are working on the receiving lane on the other side. Just want to give people updates that the council has been working on that along with our manager
and our professionals. um that will be corrected at some point so that we can alleviate some of the stress on the road there and get to receiving lanes on the other side so the traffic can flow a little bit better. And there's been a lot of discussion and questions about what's going on with the Orchard Plaza
site. Uh currently there are plans being conducted right now with the new owner of the Orchard Plaza site. He will be submitting plans that are going to what we hope uh is ma is magnificent for the town. It's a rather large parcel. Um
there's a lot of great ideas coming out there. Uh the township does have a hand in what the design is going to be along with what's going in there. So uh we are looking at what's in the best interest of the m municipality. We really want to get Highway 35 really sparkling nice. So
those are my updates. Um, we are going to get into public questions on resolutions and vouchers. All matters listed under the consent agenda are considered routine by the township council and will be enacted by one motion in the form listed below. There will be no separate discussion on these
items. If discussion is desired on any item, that item will be considered separately. The purpose of the public portion is to solely ask questions to understand resolutions that appear on the agenda and is not an occasion for a public hearing on an ordinance. All questions not related to an item on the agenda should be asked during the public
comments portion at the conclusion of the meeting. Are there any questions on the consent agenda? Sorry, I'm multi- >> Okay, seeing here none, do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda?
>> I'll move to approve the consent. >> Yeah, that's we are on resolutions. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah, >> consent agenda, you can come back up. >> I was about to say we are on resolutions. I'm trying to get out of here.
for my um resolution 261. >> Um I had a couple of questions from my research. There's way too many like documents, you know, hundreds of previous development and you know, um
the various Oprah and government records council um complaints and all that. So maybe somebody can put it in these terms. Um what I'm understanding is you all want to remediate the site eventually and then offer it up to a
developer. That's how I'm understanding it. But in looking at the D classifying it as like a C2 hazardous waste site um and it says that that requires a remediation engineering plan. I'm just wondering in
the long term like what is the feasibility of Um like you guys have to pay money on remediation plan and then it's two years if you can give us a timeline a little bit more information. >> Okay. >> Um because it sounds
>> okay. Uh so the idea obviously is to get the property cleaned up. Um as you know that site's dirty right now. Um it was a failed development that had started and then burnt down mysteriously. Um the
municipality has uh we own the property. So the ideal situation would be to get it cleaned up and see where we go from that point. I don't even think we're at that point where we can say we would offer it to any outside entity until we know whether or not that property is
clean. That's why there was no consideration at all for an affordable housing site over there because it isn't a clean site. So, we want to make sure that that site is cleaned up and becomes of value to the municipality as opposed to the way it is right now which is just
basically sitting there. Now, there is funding that you can get for some of the cleanup. It's called brownfield funding, which I'm pretty sure we will apply for that. Um, you know, to get the site potentially remediated. >> I thought though it's not considered a brownfield, so you couldn't get that.
But also, I saw the $2,800 you guys applied for. >> 2 2008 >> 2,800 >> 28, excuse me. >> Oh, you said upstairs 28 2,800. I was like, that's not a lot. >> 28,000. >> Okay. Okay. So, that's better. >> Sorry, man. That's fine with me. So, we
are looking >> That sounds better than $2,000. >> Yeah, we're looking for any money that we can to get the site remediated. >> So, how long do we think a remediation would be, >> Dave? Oh, it's a long process. It's >> a year, seven years. >> I think we've I think part of the agreement is we have to commit to being
completed in three after we get the funds. >> So, you know, it's going to take them forever to give us the funds. Once we get the funds, then we got up to three years. So, we're talking down the road. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. Any other questions? Seeing you hear
none, do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda? >> I have a question. Can I >> Sure. >> Thank you. >> It's more a comment. If there are any resolutions that need uh planning board studies or planning reports or zoning,
can we get those before the meetings? That's all I'm asking for. I know some of them aren't written, but if they're going to be on the agenda, could we at least try to get those >> written? Sometimes I do sometimes. >> So, if um Tracanne, if Jesse gets them
from the planning department, then she can definitely submit them. That wouldn't be a problem. >> It's just hard to know. >> They she has no control over what comes up to her office. >> I mean, right now online for zoning, there's only January and February of last year.
So, is there a way to maybe get within the past, you know, four months >> only uploaded January, February? Uh Dave, I guess we got to look into that. >> Spoke to Colleen. They're working on it. >> Okay, cool. >> All right.
>> Uh motion to approve the consent agenda. >> Uh so moved. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. Aera, >> yes. >> Fisher, >> yes. >> Kaplan, yes. Terrico. >> Yes, they're all except I'm stayain on
eight and 14. >> Oh, you know what? You should abstain from >> I think you said it. >> Oh, you should Yeah. From the minutes public meeting >> 26 from November 24th. No. November 13th. You were there on the
24th. November 13th. Close session. >> Resolution. Not ones. Yeah. Yeah. November 11th. >> November 24th. I >> now resolution 15. >> Resolution 15. Resolution 15. Okay. >> Oh. Oh. Oh, I see. Okay. Got you.
>> Uh, resolution 15. Okay. So, we're doing resolution 15, 14, and 8. >> And 8. Perfect. Okay. Andy, >> yes. Individual action vouchers in the amount of $2,778,253.54.
Do I have a motion to offer? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Aera. >> Yes. >> Fisher. >> Yes. >> Taplan. >> Yes. >> Telerico. >> Yes. >> Naputani. >> Yes. Ordinances up for adoption. Ordinance number 2530, which is an ordinance amending and supplementing
chapter 21, the comprehensive land development ordinance of the township of a ocean addressing various fees. Can someone please open public discussion on ordinance 2530? >> I'd like to make a motion to open the public hearing on ordinance 2530. >> Second.
>> Second. >> Roll call. >> Aera, >> yes. >> Fisher, >> yes. >> Kaplan, yes. >> Telerico, >> yes. >> Neut, >> yes. Anyone wishing to be heard on ordinance 2530, please step up to the microphone, state your name and address for the record.
Seeing none, do I have a motion to close public comment on ordinance 2530? >> Like to make a motion to close public hearing on ordinance 2530. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Aera, >> yes. >> Fisher, >> yes. >> Kaplan, >> yes. >> Telerico, >> yes. >> Neblani,
>> yes. Action on ordinance 2530. like to move to adopt ordinance 2530 and publish according to law. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Aera, >> yes. >> Fisher, >> yes. >> Kaplan, >> yes. >> Telerico, >> yes. >> And Neutenni, >> yes. That ordinance passes. Ordinance
2531, which is an ordinance amending chapter 16 of the revised general ordinances of the township of ocean 1965 entitled storage of kayaks and canoes. Someone please open public discussion on ordinance 2531. to make a motion to open the public hearing on ordinance 2531.
>> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Aera, >> yes. >> Fisher, >> yes. >> Kaplan, yes. >> Telerico, >> yes. >> Neatani, >> yes. Anyone wishing to be heard on ordinance 2531, please step up to the microphone. State your name and address for the record. >> Seeing none, do I have a motion to close
public hearing on ordinance 2531? >> Like to make a motion to close the public hearing on ordinance 2531. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Aera, >> yes. >> Fisher, yes. >> Kaplan, yes. Terica. >> Yes. >> Neut. >> Yes. That uh Whoops.
>> Action. >> Action on ordinance 2531. >> I'd like to move to adopt ordinance 2531 and publish according to law. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> A chera? >> Yes. >> Fisher? Yes. >> Kaplan? Yes. >> Telerico? >> Yes. Nutan. >> Yes.
>> That ordinance also passes. Now we'll open it up for public comment. If you have any comments that are germanine to the task of motion, please step up to the microphone, state your name and address for the record. >> It's working now. Alex Hayes Oak, I have uh three topics. Uh first one is a
statement. The other two are questions. Um on resolution, I think it was '05. Um the 18% I this is probably my third year saying this. Um you all enforce an 18% um fee on delinquent taxes and tax
leans. Um, these are tough times for folks and I'm under the assumption that when somebody misses a tax a tax payment that they're in financial struggle. So, you don't have to enforce 18%. You can do whatever you want. You could do 2%. You could do 9%. But the majority of
towns in New Jersey do 18% out of habit. And I hope you would at some point consider reducing that because it is not a mandated law or anything. Um, number two, uh, the the defense department um items that we're thinking of buying that
was difficult to understand that was in resolution 01. >> I forgot what I didn't Oh, 01. Um, and then there was that that spreadsheet of here all the things from B to D. Does that mean we are trying to buy surplus
like army? No, it's just another >> like we have different contracts they write with like a co-op and if something becomes available, >> we can get it. This is just a >> so just authorizing us to be able to enter that if we so choose to at some point, right?
>> Doesn't mean we're if there's a good price. No, we're not buying. >> Okay. Okay. That was hard to understand. Okay. And then my last comment was up in the first meeting um the engineer mentioned Valley Road south of the water tower and says there's already a
developer who is quote ready to build. I'm sorry I don't know where a valley road is. Um so if anyone can give me like cross streets or general areas and then who is the developer and what are they building? It said you all were talking about affordable housing. So what are they building? Who's the developer and where exactly is that?
>> It's an affordable housing project up on our property. Uh Dave, you want to elaborate on, you know, some of the issues? Not issues, but you know, who the developer is and whatnot? >> Well, just run down because um the the developers, the affordable housing alliance. >> Okay. >> And what was the other question? And
>> what are what are they trying to build? Who's the developer? >> Yeah, affordable housing. I think it's about 60 70 units. >> And then where is Valley Road? >> I don't know. >> It's off of 35. And then you get There you go. Italian American Association
>> behind the Italian American Association Valley Road >> and then you go >> Oh, so up by Ladison and whatever. >> Yes. >> Which doesn't normally have residential where someone's building 60 units down there. >> Yes. >> Okay.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> Anyone else be heard? >> Hello Jim Bay David Street. I left a set of notes with the upstairs uh drawing of Kwell. And Dave, I was mentioning to you over on the the garage area of the old
Kwell. If you drop a twoft elevation there on the topographic map, that requires then an egress road is just slightly to the north about 15 ft to the north because you can't drive through the garage anymore because it's dropped
two feet. that allows the spatial relationships of grading to where it has a very semiflat grade. food trucks could get in, uh, garbage trucks could get in there if you did the
grade drop. And, uh, that place could be approximately five size, five times the size it is now with some consideration for grading. And, uh, parking is potentially on that drawing for the left side is a place you
could put parking there. So, if you could consider taking another look at Kapwell, considering the parking as required, considering the spatial relationships for grading, and uh do you have any questions?
>> Very good. >> Thank you, Jim. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> So moved. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Thank you. Very nice. Have a great evening. Shake off.