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There we go. Let's remind everybody that the township council meetings will be audio and videotaped and will be shown on Oceans cable channel 22 on Verizon FiOS and channel 77 on cable. Can I have a roll call, please? >> Mayor Nan >> here. >> Deputy Mayor Fischer

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>> here. Council member Sara >> here >> and tele here. >> The notice requirements of the open public meetings act for the meeting have been satisfied. The copy of the manual notes was sent to the Aspbury Park Press and the coaster posted in town hall and filed in the office of the municipal clerk on December 18th, 2025.

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Uh I'm going to start off with Greg. He's got our uh township issues and then Colleen will be up next. So let's start off with Mr. Blash. >> I don't know if everybody got the list to you. >> There's really no changes on there. I'd

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probably like to unless you have specific questions, I'd rather defer my time to the close session tonight because I have two products in here I have to talk to you about. >> Okay. Yeah, that's fine. That's how much time you think you need close. >> 10 15. There's two items. One might take

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10, the other will take five. They're both related. >> All right. So, >> but there's really no change in any of the projects in the way other than we're working on. >> I There can't be much changes. >> Yeah. How much more work do they have to do on Papa? They really looks like they got they're digging it up.

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>> Yeah, they're probably about halfway done. They got another week and a half, two weeks or so. >> Greg, they're doing the whole length. >> No, this is just phase one. The project we're putting out the bid after we get done with the assessments end of the month to be phase two. So, that'll be done in the fall. >> Okay. Phase two will be the paving. >> No, phase two will be the other half of

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the road. >> The other half. >> We're going to pave that project. This section paved probably the end of June, end of July. Okay. >> And we'll probably have the other one start in August. >> Okay. What's the street that's next to David Street that we only did the half of last year?

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>> Laney Lane doing the rest of that. >> You got you got a call, too. >> Oh, no. That was that was that was >> we were going to rename that street Fazio. >> Oh, it should. It should be Fazio Way. >> Fazio Way. >> Absolutely. >> Sorry, Jackie. >> For Popppler, um you and I had me I

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mentioned this to you earlier. Is there a way we could look into getting school signs and >> Yeah, I've got to talk to the police about that. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Y that's on >> in 25. >> Yeah, >> 20 to 25 mile speed limit. >> I mean, I don't know what's the law on school.

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>> Yeah, if you just if you have a school zone, that would be reduced in the zone during school to 25. Yeah, that's pretty easy to do. >> Yeah. So, I think that would be a good idea. >> I'll talk to the sergeant about that. We'll get that taken care of. Yeah, I think it'd be better if it was like blinking when there's school there because I have full buyers remorse on Logan Road right now. I'm just saying.

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>> So, let's do a ton of complaints and the chief grabbed me out at the sheriff's department today and said he's getting a lot too. >> And by the way, I saw OTPD out today pulling somebody over. >> Okay, good. >> On Logan Road. So, they've been at least

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it wasn't you. >> So, just uh I I guess they're doing a good job. Um, >> hold on, mayor, if I may. >> Yeah, to Gita's point. >> Great point. Lunch. >> Can we verify that we have that at the other schools in town? >> I'm pretty sure we do, but I will double

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check. >> I'm just thinking for some reason Downey Avenue. >> I could be wrong. >> There's a 25. There's definitely a 20. >> Yeah, I think school zone there. Yeah, I'll double check it though. >> I think that's a great point. >> Oh, I wanted to bring something up. I don't know if anybody's mentioned this

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before, but we put Wikipe on our side at 25, but Inner Lakings is at 35. Did you know that >> the council and Inner Lake has approved the 25? >> Just wanted to bring that up. >> That's been we told them that we were consider

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rack it up. >> Tracy said she drove to 25. >> Really? Yeah. That's the only piece of 35. >> Yeah. Somebody brought that up. I'm like, that's psychotic. We couldn't change it without their permission. >> Okay. All right. So, there's your answer to that problem.

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>> Yeah. I I already had a call in the mayor over there. >> Okay. >> Called him today and he actually literally just called me back. So, >> good. >> He already answered my question. >> Cool. >> I knew you were looking into this, but is there going to be another entrance or exit coming out of the Hill

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>> on deal? They're working. That's they have to present that. I've talked to them about that and they do want that. So they're going to change come to come for amended site plan. >> Okay. >> But that's something they're working on. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> Oh, I'm sorry. One more. Well, since to let everybody else know, I I had gotten

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a phone call, email, something about and we brought this up before and I brought it up to Greg yesterday or two days ago. Uh primarily in the summer, but it's consistent. Mammoth Road and West Park where Adlers is, we've talked about trying to make that no lefthand turn out

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of there. Excuse me. no left hand uh no left-hand turn out of Adlers and only make the right with me. So Greg explained and he's going to look into it, but that's not the first complaint I've gotten and given that I

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live there and I see it every day that it's a pain in the backside. But D Greg made a point that and Colleen may even I may have even had a conversation with you that the original site plan probably didn't prevent that from happening. So unless they come in for site change,

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they we can't do that and it's a county road. But Greg was going to look into it because that >> is a tough road tough. It's a county control, but it's they're going to have the same thing is that site plan was approved so long ago hasn't changed and unless they make a change, they can't

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put new restrictions on the driveway >> unless there's a serious safety issue, which it hasn't occurred yet, but it's coming. Yeah. >> I mean that that from Park down to West Park is not good. that whole section through. >> Yeah. >> And and you know what? The same thing should apply coming out of Brennan's too.

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>> That's I think of that. >> And then the the coffee shop the rope thing disaster. >> That's the worst one because they actually block the traffic to try to correct it. >> That's all bad. >> I want to know who approved that back in the day. Was a sandwich shop back in the day. >> Who approved it?

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>> That was a sandwich shop. And I'm like, who approved that? It's like having a a business in a closet. >> It's crazy. Greg, anything else? >> Nope. >> Okay, closed. Uh, so Colleen, is yours closed or open that you want to go over? >> Open.

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>> Okay. >> I have one I have one thing before because Colleen is going to take a while. I had >> Tim Shay from the from Tosa would like to know when anybody would like to come for a tour. Like to start making arrangements.

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>> So saying you must go to that. >> Let's plan it for August. Hey, you really need a good nice hot day. >> He said mornings are probably the best and he can arrange availability any date Monday through Friday. >> That was awesome.

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>> Okay, so can I get back to you? >> I just have to look at my screen. >> Thank you. Anybody else? >> Yeah, I'll take if we can make it work at the same time. Oh, that would be good. You will get a refresher. >> I think you're missing out. >> No, I'm good. >> You really need to understand the biological science. The nice thing about

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it is you'll Whenever you trap past a treatment plan, public works, too. I don't know. >> I have a very like I have a superpower. Like my nose is >> Colleen, go ahead. >> You're up. >> Uh, now I just wanted to talk about some changes that I would like to propose.

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Um, one of them is impervious coverage. They'd like to lower it. It was lowered. It >> was supposed to be lower. >> All of them were supposed to be lowered. Only some of them were lowered. And that was before my time. And so the rest we want to do 45% across the board on every

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>> What do you mean like commercial? >> What is it now? >> It's it right now certain zones are 45 some are 65%. >> Where's the 65% zone? >> 65% of the R4 >> really >> everyone supposed to go to 45

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>> this is all res >> and also lower the height of the structures. I'd like to >> where are some of the R4 zones roughly? >> Yeah. Where's the map? I mean they sporadically is R4 like off of Overbrook that one where there's a

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business and reszi is >> Overbrook Elberon where you have business and residential. >> Do you have copies that we could see? >> Yeah. You're off of uh like Mammoth Road that holds like down the golf course.

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South of the golf course is all R4. >> R4 is up north of uh like park left to park all the area over there like uh Brookside up through um uh I forget the Northern Road there, but that whole section there all the way left up through West Park. That whole section is

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all R4. >> So, Colleen, your recommendation is to uh make it just consistent across >> and that's something I want to do sooner than than later on this. Um it's it's it's I've had many of conversations with Greg over it on the impervious coverage

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which is crazy. >> One of the things I can tell you is the grading plans for the last two years for the R4 specifically 90% of them are coming in like 41 42% because you can't really fit more on there unless you want to be obnoxious. You know the they were talking you have a pool they have a

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little basketball court they got a pretty big house a pool garage and a cabana. It's like it's massive and why would you want to put any more on there and they can still go to 65. So I think because we have 90% coming in at 41 42% not to go to 40. >> And I have a chart if you want to see

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what we want to um >> how did we not get this because I remember when we did make these changes the first time >> it it for some reason those zones did not happen. >> There's there somebody did want to change that number. >> Can I see the map? >> So we did it. >> Yeah. Me too, please.

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>> What did you say about the height too? I I >> I'd like to lower the height which will help um >> what is our height now? >> It's 35%. >> 35 height just a 30. >> It's two and a half roughly. >> Yeah. So yeah >> 30 35 is 2 and a2.

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>> Oh 30 is two and a half. 30 is >> Yeah. You easily fit two and a half and a 30. I mean you get rid of the high peak houses when you come down the pipe. >> Makes the structure look massive. >> The bigger roof. >> Yeah. >> These are all great. Those are that's something that I'd like to do sooner than than later. We're working on a lot

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of other things. But >> what are your measures? What's the bottom? >> Existing ground elevation to the peak of the roof. >> Oh, thank you. >> Oh, to the team. Yeah. >> Yeah. And I think that would help too. >> Do we give many variances for that? >> You don't need them right now.

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>> We don't need them. >> It's so most houses are only 30 in that come in at a twotory. >> So you're And what you're having They're they're competing the attic space and living space.

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>> Yeah. >> And they have the door sticking out. It just makes >> So which zones are we planning to do? Are like it's now it's >> R4 you said? >> Um well for the height it would be most of them

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coverage would be the R4 >> um and down. >> But it'll be it'll be all residential then be the same. >> Same thing with height. And just so I'm clear, so lowering it means lessing lessening the amount of coverage itself,

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>> increased previous coverage, thus imper, >> right? Okay. >> And what I'm and I'm saying here is is um the lots are completely covered. >> Yeah. >> Nobody likes grass. Nobody likes trees. They don't want it. They do everything they can to have it covered with

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walkways, patios, sports courts, and And it's and it's hindering. >> Can we change the setback? Setback seems tight too. >> Um >> yeah. The problem if you did that then all anybody coming with a revised plan putting a little addition on because they have room would then be a variance.

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>> Yeah. >> And since you're you're 99% developed in all these zones, I think that would be a more of a hindrance. >> Yeah. >> I mean there's a lot of things I'd like to change. Setbacks for think one thing at a time. >> But the whole ordinance needs to be redone. These are things that I think need to be addressed soon, especially

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the impervious coverage and with my conversations with Greg and what we're seeing >> coming in, it needs to be done sooner than later. >> Um, so >> when was the last time it was changed? >> Probably about three years ago. >> We did it here.

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>> I was here when we did it right when it started. >> And it seemed like we were doing the right thing. I mean, it wasn't, you know, we >> But that's why I don't remember why did we do some and not others. >> We did them all. >> And The planning board was given advice to not change those two zones. >> Why?

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>> Don't know. >> Wait, why would the planning board make >> I'll tell you executive don't we make and no disrespect to the planning board. Don't we make that decision? >> I'll tell you I'll tell you an exact. >> It goes to I'll go through the story. So any any changes the ordinance goes to the planet where to see if it's in

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conflict with the master plan >> and then it you know if they say you know they find it and they don't like it but you still have ultimately the decision >> to um overrule that >> but yeah so somewhere along the way I

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don't know it was presented this way and the when the ordinance was >> it was a simple reason that and in in fairness to the planning board I'll explain it to you >> outside of the No, an exact. >> Oh, got it. >> Okay. >> What's the height? >> What's the height for commercial

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buildings and like hotels and stuff? >> I think >> I think it's 35 ft. I'm not >> Yeah, that >> we have to look at that. >> So, how many stories would that be? I think most commercials are only one story,

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>> but like for the hotels and residential units, I guess would be also will be 35 ft. >> I'm pretty sure it is. We'd have to double check. >> So the the property on Mammoth across from 7-Eleven, the I don't know if they're apartments,

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condo, whatever the six units or eight units, whatever it is. >> Did that need a variance? >> Yeah, that was before the board >> for height. >> Um I don't know. >> Probably close to 35. >> But yes, I don't think they went for a height. >> Yeah, they think they had sideyards and

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some other things. But >> Colleen, I had a question for you. I know we've discussed this even when I was on the planning board. We don't have an architectural standard in this township. And I understand we don't have historic district like Ocean Grove. And I don't want to add an expense, another layer of expense to the township because

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I understand you'd have to bring an architect and whatever. But generally speaking, are we looking at these plans and saying this does fit into the neighborhood, this doesn't fit into the neighborhood, or hey, this is what I like and this is what I'm building. >> You can't you don't have a design

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standard. Yeah. So, we don't have where, you know, you can paint it any color, style it any color. >> Yeah. You can make it out of whatever will structurally work. >> We tried that when I was on the planning board for 35. Everything had the brick motif, if you will. >> I think that is in place. You can't have

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certain architectural standards for commercial buildings on 35. >> Okay. >> That has like brick and ratios. Yeah. >> Do other towns have some sort of standard? I mean, I know Ocean Grove has something, but I'm not looking for what Ocean Grove has.

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>> Dave, where do you think you're looking for? I just find it's kind of um listen I know times change and you know in 1940 that handyman special from Sears was the the standard and then life goes on and then some people like you know something more modern something more boxy

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something more little but it's just so odd to drive down a street and see we have nothing I mean we have not even it's really actually rather >> oh Colleen maybe we could look into >> straw pole some town see what they do the ocean's tough But who's going to

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decide whether we choose colonial or modern? I don't know that it's >> I think they, you know, Fisher, you got a point on Ocean Grove and stuff. Those are, you know, historical uh different areas. Ocean's a tough town because it is a >> it's been a hodge podge since I was a kid, you know. So, you know, you had the

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the houses that were built in the 50s and then people said, "No, I want more of a center hall colonial." Then somebody said, "Well, hey, I you know," and then the ranch kind of fell out of favor, but then people were like, "I want my ranch back." And you know it's >> I think maybe we just see what other towns may do if they have >> curious what other towns on it you know and if they don't

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>> I'm going to say majority of them don't have any I don't think I know any off the top of my head unless they have a historic >> there's a couple I think Romson may have an architectural standard. Yeah, >> nice fair. I'm sorry. Fair. >> And the reason I bring this up, I have a friend of mine who's on the Oceanport uh

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planning board and he's in the business. So, he is very tough on applicants because he understands textures and and those terms that I don't know, but you know, I'm just inquiring. That's all. But it's important to have board members to know >> I think your problem just from my

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opinion if you want to have that standard you have to somehow who's going to set the standards and who's going to make the decision and saying this fits and this doesn't fit. >> Yeah. >> Because that's going to have to be somebody that's has some experience in that and that means you're going to have to somebody >> that you know you're bringing in to do

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that like an architect on every application >> and then it's his opinion. I mean you get three architects. >> Yeah. I mean, it's a complicated subject, but >> especially now that everything's kind of already changed and out of the box. >> Yeah. >> You don't have consistency throughout neighborhoods anymore. >> Sure.

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>> And one quick comment on the uh impervious resolution or amendment or whatever we're going to call it. Um so, we're taking the position that we wanted to do this originally. It was done for almost everything except R4 and we're

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gonna fix it, remedy it, and get it back to what we thought we were doing back then. Have you all seen what was going on in West L Branch? Along the same lines because they're reducing the amount of impervious surface and they couldn't have the meetings at the town

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hall because they flooded the place with people. Police have to close the meeting. >> No, I didn't see that. >> You may want to read up on that. We may all want to just be prepared. I I don't see it being >> that's why I let in with what I let in with. >> So because I mean I think when we

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originally talked about this, remember I mentioned that most residential ordinances that have been established with coverage in mind in the first place, we're at 30%. >> Right? >> So that if we went from 65 to 30, I think you'd have it filled up. But going

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from 65 to 45, most people in the R4 already know to go 40 to 65% in a lot that size is just you can't fit all those amenities that would make sense to you because it's a smaller house. It's not like you have, you know, like a R1 zone where you have a 10,000 foot house.

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There's a lot of different things you can do. >> But the R4 zone isn't a big zone. >> All good. >> Good. Colin, the other >> and um so I I was approached uh Dave and I had meetings. Um,

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and Isaac Master is looking to add some changes to the C4 zone. What uh what's permitted there? I have meetings of days. I then we had a meeting with uh Greg and Jim Higgins, our our planner. I've spoken to

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Councilwoman Kaplan at the planning board meeting just in the in the caucus about some things. Um, I've given out the piece of paper that of items that they're requesting. So, this is something that I thought the council should look over, think about

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it. In progress, I wanted an answer today, but that this other I think you need to think about it and really say this what you're looking for um in the town. As you know, one of the things on the list is data center. >> Yeah. >> That's a hot that's a hot topic before

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>> and now it's really become a hot topic. I don't know if that's something that's probably something you want to just take a step back until a little more is known about it. >> I just want to just as a followup I saw Isaac somewhere and his main request I didn't talk to him about anything is car

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washes. So that is not as bad but just in terms of priority that was his >> I guess car washes you have to >> Yeah. I think that >> data is enter >> I I don't think we know >> I don't think anyone wants it. I I think right now even the I think even the

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higher ups higher than we are right now they're looking into this with the water usage and the electric and >> how everything is going to shake out and space and everything else. >> I think the biggest problem with them is you know the federal government permits automatically they can use develop their own power source

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>> right >> so that's a problem in itself because what's this power source generating power on this property >> you know what does that look like is it emitting nuclear power plant is it a windmill is it whatever but heard the federal government saying you're allowed to do that. Hopefully not circumvent our

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zoning, but that's why I think you kind of got to get at the data center for level one more than you >> and you got to look into it. >> So, Colleen, these are the the ones my suggestion is to the council that you guys take a look at these, see what you agree, disagree with, and then shoot.

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>> The warehouse is already there. We have the Amazon building which we know. >> So, really, what's your on here? What are your uh >> what are your uh what are your recommendations on here that you don't recommend? >> Car wash like Counciloman Cap said it's

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not so bad but uh do you really want a car wash over there? I don't know. Then you got to realize view it's the whole C4 zone. So >> C view is not just its own zone. It's the whole C4 zone. >> You want to look at the map again? >> You know, do you want a fast food with a

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>> drive? You got to consider these things in the mall. So you might want to say some of these things can't exist in the mall. >> Cuz in the meeting I was at, I was like, why would you want to put a fast food establishment on the end of the mall even though there are all those standalone buildings with a drive-thru

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in it? I said if it was a standalone out in the parking lot, that's not so bad. >> So Starbucks is at C4. >> Yeah. Mhm. >> But that you could see at that on the end of the building, the drive-thru is a major all that traffic going in front of those stores every day and then people

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walking into the store. >> So was that just >> but it's there now you're saying? >> So was that in my opinion that's a problem. >> Well, was that a variant? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Whatever. They probably granted it and it was not that long ago. It was

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only maybe five, six years ago. Yeah, >> I think I might even >> because the Starbucks was down down the other end. >> That's a perfect example is that the net's on the end, you know, would have to be on an end, but you have the whole you kind of >> are these all additions or >> this is what they're requesting.

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>> So, none of these were existing on >> the warehouse. You said I thought >> Well, we have the warehouse. So, Amazon came. >> Okay. >> Um and and they're back. They're they're coming back. Amazon. >> Oh, coming back. >> I They haven't subitted. I've been back

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and forth with the architect while I was out for a while. Um, Greg had um looked at the plans and the call was to go between some comments and got to just be careful. >> So, not Amazon, somebody else. >> No, it's Amazon. >> But they want to restructure it.

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>> They didn't really get into a lot of detail what's going on inside. They just say they're expanding the business into another the next store over. So, we're trying to get more detail exactly what is going in that store. changing the site plan a little with with with customer or employee

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>> walkways over the >> Didn't make a lot of sense what they were doing. >> Why' they leave in the first place? Because they open the other facility. >> That's what they said. >> Yeah. >> Car still get >> Yeah. They always said they were only opening this facility for a year or two until the one fall was done and then they would close this one. That was

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always up front. >> Um Yeah. Again, fast food is a drive-thru. Uh bank was a drive-thru. That's really, you know, auto. Do you want a dealership there? I don't know. I don't >> I don't think you want an auto service center. You mean like

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>> a car service center like a gas station on Cindy Lane >> or like the guy on Mammoth and Roosevelt? >> Oh, yeah. >> He's an auto repair. He's an auto service center. >> Ironically, the new car service center

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does something like that. >> But Costco has a auto thing and they were also looking for like a tire place and it's going >> that's why I think you got to make specifics. I mean you don't mind certain things being there but you don't want other things. So you'd have to clarify each one of these if you don't have a problem with it. Right.

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>> So this so thank you for sharing. >> So what's the process? >> Well, this is something I think the council needs to think about and discuss amongst themselves and you let me know. >> So >> and then we go from there. If you're in agreement, we add them. If you're not, we change them. I mean, some of the some

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of the things in the C4 zone have some we have some >> I don't want her to answer. No, no, no. We have we have a video store. We don't have those anymore. We don't have >> What was the habash listed? So, we don't have that anymore.

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I mean, so certain things we don't which we would clean that up. Um, >> can we kick this to the planning board and get their thoughts and have them come back to us? >> A gunshot. I think it's us to make our decision to make a decision whether you want it to to to if you know what you're

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>> um likely to to add or not add you want you know >> shoe shine >> something impervious I just wanted today >> are these are these businesses that are like lined up to move in possibly to the open spaces is that what he's asking

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>> I think he has said he wants I don't think they're they're ready to move in but he wants that possibility the market >> any any of these because he doesn't know what he's just trying to get somebody in there. >> So he all these he thinks would go in there. >> So right now it's just like home like home store shopping home. So and to me

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it's warehouse. There's already a warehouse. There's the Amazon. Do you want another warehouse? I don't know. >> And there's a lot right across the street. >> So it's it's something you have to think about. You know, I they've been he's been pushing and pushing and and uh but it's

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something the council has to and I think >> if you guys could get back to Colleen early next week, this way she can wrap this up and decide how we want >> write it up and >> yeah, how we want to proceed. I I think you guys take a take some take take a you know a little bit to look at it

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>> because I think his attorney at this point um Miss Kco is is um >> persistent. It's a nice word. >> Well, like she said, you know, if it's not they're not getting what they want, then they may have to go a different direction of maybe asking for an actual

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zone change, not just changes of what's permitted in the zone. >> It will be combined soon. >> But then it would just be that area. You have to be, you know, >> be the whole zone. >> It's the whole zone. >> The children's entertainment. What would that be? >> Oh, >> that's already there. Sky Zone.

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>> We have one that's just going over by flooring decor and not metal broke. It's, you know, an indoor gym type of >> jungle gym, you know, little snack bar. >> I mean, I think I have a problem with that. >> I think it would probably help just to throw my two cents in is if you kind of

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put some of the things you envision those to be >> because how we en how you guys envision and some guy coming to an application vision. Well, kids are in there. So, I think you kind of want to give examples and say this is the kind of things we want to limit it to

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>> just the thought because otherwise it's just too wide open >> you know and they're asking for medical offices we discussed not having it um I guess having it at the end of the the mall area not >> just in the middle you know like they

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did that at Mammoth Mall >> so it's some of you know you're talking the emergency services things you know people are you know pretty hurt going in the middle of this shopping center. >> So you have a list of what's already permitted in a C4 zone and you'll get a chuckle out of some of the old time

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things that are listed, >> but and then just go through them and >> All right, we'll get uh send you our comments back and then we can do what you got to do. >> Could I just address? >> So as you know in OEM, Greg and I have talked about this many many times. You

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know, I do uh two of my functions are protection and mitigation. And I just want to throw my uh uh support behind the 45% impervious zone because we really need to do something about this. Our flooding is not getting any better and uh people

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just got to you know the way it is. But I just want to throw my >> I I don't think that any of us are not in support of that. I would think that you know it's the 45% blanket. >> I understand but I just want >> Yeah. >> and get that moving. >> You can you can get it moving for us and then >> and the others just let me know. Take

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the time and think about it. You mean about 65? Look, >> no purpose coverage and the height. I think we I can move on and get that written up. >> Okay. Super impervious definition >> like the C4 zones. Take take your time and really think about it. >> Okay. >> Uh motion to go and close.

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>> We didn't talk about anything else. I talk about the combined >> minor subdivision. You got >> We need to change. >> I'll bring it up next. What do you want to go over with the boards? >> I want to talk about the combined board and the process of how >> you got here. You can ask her right now.

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We can spend five or 10 minutes on that sent over to the original. >> Colleen Grace has a couple questions on the combined board. >> Yeah. So, how is that process going to be? Because now we only have about a month. So, this is how I envision it.

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>> Okay. >> Okay. I would like to actually interview the people that are interested and have it open to the entire town and whoever you know is interested that's qualified, right? That's here as a resident for a year um and is 18 and over. I think

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that's the two qualifications or is there more? >> Honestly, I would I I mean I would do a little more than just being a resident for a year. Those are the mistake that's qualifications but you can >> but you can >> but you can add so we should talk about that >> here a little longer that that has maybe

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seen >> and I don't disagree with that I was just going by the state rigs but um I would like to see that and how it opened immediately and then within given a time frame of maybe two weeks to see >> what we're going to get >> council's hands right now

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>> so the way that uh Tracy has done it she has gotten what they call talent bank of people that put in um they put in their request for boards and stuff. She gets it in the talent bank and they're considered for the position. Right now

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you've had most of those people on the planning and zoning board have been appointed over the last four or five years. um pretty qualified and to start all over again with new all new people I think is you know >> yeah there are some and I'll be honest

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there's some members from both boards that I really would like to keep because they're they're qualified they're good they're strong it's not just everything's rubber stamp um nothing against the rest of the council but I'd like to keep council I don't look for

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you >> she's good She she's she's been there. She's solid. Um levelheaded. Um can be tough at times. >> But I only because Yeah. I not I have nothing against anybody else. >> You didn't want to get off.

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>> What am I doing for the next >> right every Thursday for the next >> How do I change? >> That's I'm just >> I'm like I enjoy it. Thank you. >> Yeah. But it's and there are some members on both boards that I I they're really good. >> But I'm not saying they can't apply.

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>> I'm just saying that it should be open to the entire town and then we discuss who actually applies and then make a decision from there. >> Uh yes. I guess the way it's going is both boards are dissolving. >> Correct. >> Okay. So usually I'm I'm used to where

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just the board of adjustment dissolves and the planning board stays and then there's some members who you know maybe can't commit to extra meeting or or just whatever and then you kind of but yeah I agree that's you know we we should um

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they need to be qualified you know it's not just an average resident I hate to say that but justification >> you want to know things about construction plans architecture, you know, we have an architect now who calls out, he's like, "Wait a minute, you know, this isn't

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right. That's not right. You can't do that." Um, so that's the qualifications. I mean, not just someone who says, and I, you know, oh, this looks nice, this looks nice. You know, they should get, you know, they should get it. You have to know the law. You have to know what's a hardship, what's not a hardship.

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>> Yeah. I'll tell you. So my suggestion be it is unusual to have an entire board wiped out and you don't want to put in all new people because they're not just not going to know what they're doing. You want to have some continuity with what's happened. So I I think you have 20 members if I'm counting right nine

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plus two alternates on the planning board and seven plus two on the zoning board. So you have 20 you've got now 13 seats to fill, right? Nine plus four alternates. Most of those people doesn't have to be all most of them I would recommend come from your your current boards just because you have some

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continuity uh going forward. So you know as a policy matter sure you can interview people and I I'm not going to say you should do that but I would keep in mind that this is a pretty big change >> and if you know anybody I would have them email Tracy Burkowitz directly.

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>> I had somebody reach out to me. I said send it in to Tracy. let it get in the talent bank if they're really interested >> and and Tracy said some of your you know your resume and um you know it's not just whether you like something or you like somebody it's a lot more involved

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it's it's legal you know and it's and it's repercussions if you approve something that shouldn't be you know um >> well what is the training because I was on it I mean I think everybody here was on >> well there's mandatory class you have to take which is now another thing that

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these board members have to sign them up. >> I mean, it's it's it's 18 months you have unless they're going to change that to take the class, but you just, you know, that but it's it's basically you >> you need to have a little knowledge and you're relying on your professionals to

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help guide you on, you know, the criteria, what's permitted and and hardships and what's not hardship. You know, we have a lot of people that come in. Last night, we had one and I'll be honest, the board approved it. I was a little disappointed. It was for a pool

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and a front yard and there was no hardship >> where the front yard >> how in the backyard >> shadow shadow um title lawn >> and it's a curve. It's Yeah. Peninsula >> and everything's a front yard. >> Yeah. And it was and it was proved in

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the front yard and varying setbacks and it was just there was no need there's no hardship. >> There's no hardship to have a pool. But but you just proved my point that we need so many new people. >> Well, that it wasn't it wasn't a unanimous vote, let me tell you. It was

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>> okay. But it was >> they got they got it through by one. >> I still think we need to open it to the town. If we don't get the resumes and we don't get the interests, that's fine. But I think everybody should be at the same level of, hey, I'm interested, I'm not interested. We have to look at the

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attendance records for the people that are interested to see if they actually show up. because when I was on there, I was an alternate. I voted every time because we couldn't get enough of the members to show up for the meetings. So, I think there's more to this than just >> there are people the members that I I'd

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like to to stick around between both boards do attend. The ones that don't attend, >> they're not on on my preferred to keep list. So, um because that's a big thing. >> How many are on your prefer to keep list? I guess let's start there. How

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about you share that list with us? >> I don't have it with me. >> No, not now. I'm sorry. Send us. >> No, I can I can please. >> Yeah, I can share if if that's okay. >> Sure. >> And And when will it go out to the town? >> We only have two weeks. >> That's not up to me. That's that's

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really I think council >> thing. Correct. I mean, that's a council thing, not >> put a post out on Facebook and tell him to submit to Tracy. >> Yeah. >> And just give a deadline. I mean, hey, we might get five. We might get none. We might get 20.

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>> Just put it up, >> but I think it's the fairest way to do it. >> Put it on the website. Jesse, you'll get it on the website. You can put it up on Facebook. >> Yeah. No, I I agree. You need to You don't know what you're going to get. You might be surprised that you might get some really qualified people that are

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>> right. >> And it's going to be a commitment because it's two meetings a month where each board was only one meeting. That's that's a big commitment. >> But it's Thursdays. >> Well, again, we don't know. I have no idea who the board members are, who the professionals are. I am in limbo right now. I'm not scheduling anything. I do

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have something scheduled for July that was a carryover, but I'm about ready to to postpone that to August because >> we running out of time. >> I don't know who the board members are. I have to have professionals picked. We're keeping them. We're getting new

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professionals. That's this is a lot to go on. What days? If members, you know, majority of the members, can they still make a third? I to me to keep two Thursdays would be a little tough because if I have to move, I can't move the week before or the week after,

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>> right? Thursdays and Mondays. I don't know. I don't know who the professionals will be, whether they that fits in their schedule. The board members, what's you know, you may have every board member say Thursdays are no good for me. my data. I would prefer not to do a Wednesday because we do have court on

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Wednesdays. That's a lot if the docket is full for the court to have to break down and for us to set up and I don't want to put that stress on them. Some days it's easy, but some days it's tough and that's just >> yep >> um little too much and then I got to look at whatever the meetings are going

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on during the week and so it's kind of what do we do? Where are we going? What days? You can keep Mondays and Thursdays, keep it two weeks apart that way. And what about the criteria for attendance? I mean, what would you like to see? 70%, 80?

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>> I'd like to see 100%. >> Well, of course. >> I mean, because it is um, you know, it's tough because some applications require, you know, five affirmative votes and if I only have five members >> and some of them go on for 10 meetings. I mean, I was in a

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>> correct but this should help with having two meetings a month and a and a combined board whereas before the planning board didn't have much um business >> and then the the board of adjustment was so backlogged and then you're giving everybody 45 minutes. Well, you're not getting anything done,

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>> right? So with an agenda I try to arrange it so that you know the homeowners applications that are you know unfortunately because of a situation they're not you know it's a it's already an existing setback and they're coming in as they try to get

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those in and out. >> So it's going to be 24 meetings a year because twice a month and then from six to 10. >> No they start at seven. >> So seven >> I would love to start them at six but again members it's tough to get there. They most of them work and the

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professionals work and to get there I would love to start a meeting at 6 but >> and what about special meetings like are we thinking that's going to happen? >> I don't think we would need them. >> I don't think so. >> I think we we will be getting through and especially with two meetings a month

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at that point when you have a big application come in where at this point with the agenda I can control it where this meeting will have all the residentials that are going to go through in half hour or less. And then the big one that needs maybe two hours, I can do that on the other night

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>> and I'm not holding anybody up. And >> are you separating them? Are you doing residential on one week and then >> no commercial? >> Not yet. Not yet. >> Is it for the close? >> If if need be, I can, but at this point, no. >> Okay.

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>> One left. Okay. You still going? >> No. No. Thank you. >> So may have talked to either of both of you about not necessarily doing residential and commercial differently, but what's the what's the quorum? So, is

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it >> uh we'll be a nine member board, so it'll be six five. >> So, I think we one of us had the conversation about even having two meetings and not necessar and splitting the board because you have the

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alternates. So in theory, because you got the three alternates, >> right, with with 13 members, >> right, you could have six at a meeting and six at a meeting and have this six look at this application instead of having all >> correct. But but depending on the

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application, an attorney or or an applicant may not want to proceed with just five or six numbers because, you know, if you only have five and one says no, you're done. >> They have the option for that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's a courtesy. It's not uncommon. >> Yeah. That's why it's important that I

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know and we, you know, we send out, let me know if you're attending or not attending. Either way, just a simple email, >> whatever, phone call >> because it we look really >> not very professional when somebody shows up and we only have four me five

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members and it's like you need everybody to vote. Yes. >> But but typically if you have seven, most applicants will be Yes. >> satisfied with that. >> Sure. Seven >> because you have because you have >> but because Some require five. That's why a lot of them don't want to go with

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six or five. >> Sure. Okay. Got it. Thank you. >> Can I say one last thing? I just want to thank you for all the back and forth emails and for the statutes and for allowing me to review both and then >> th

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I also want to thank you for changing it back to the way it was. I also want to thank you so that the council has the um authority to choose those 10 members. So, thank you. >> 13. >> No. >> Apologize. No, no, you're right. You got

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to >> two only have one. >> No. >> Motion to go closed. >> Motion to go on closed. Motion second. All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Just want to remind everybody that all Township of Council meetings with the

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audio and video tape, they'll be shown on the oath Township of Oceans Community Cable uh cable channel 22 on Verizon FiOS and channel 77 on cable vision. Can I have a roll call, please? >> Mayor Nepalani >> here. >> Deputy Mayor Fischer >> here. >> Council member Zachera >> here. >> Kaplan

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>> here. And Telerica >> here. Can everyone please stand for a pledge of allegiance and please remain standing as we do a silent prayer and this one is for the CL family. As everybody knows we suffered a major loss in this community uh to yesterday and um

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everybody within the community has been hit by this. It's tragic. It's sad um and it's there's no words. So we'll do a moment of silence for the class family. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Please remain standing. You may be seated. The notice requirements of the open public meetings act for this meeting have been satisfied and a copy of the

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annual notice was sent to the Aspbury Park Press posted in town hall and filed in the office of the municipal clerk on December 18th, 2025. There are two emergency exits to my right that'll take you to the front of the building, one to my left that'll take you to the rear of the building. If you have to make a

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phone call, kindly step outside and please make sure your cell phones are turned off. I'm going to start down at the in the middle here and start with Councilman Aera with council comments. >> Wow, change of pace. >> Well, you guys wanted some rotation. You know me, I keep giving in, so I'll just

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give it again. >> Well, I'll tell you what, no report, Mr. Mayor. >> Oh, you surprised me. I'm coming back at you. >> Well, let's go to Taler Rico. >> Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. I do have a couple things. >> I wouldn't have had anything if you picked me last either. So that

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>> um I just want to say I attended the jump with a cop at Sky Zone yesterday and it was amazing. The uh officers that were there, the two captains and the sergeant, I want to give a big shout out to them because it really was nice to see them engaging and they always do on

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the outside, but with um kids from kindergarten to fourth grade jumping, having fun, they were having fun. It was great. So I just wanted to thank them. >> Can I something? Oh, sure. Yeah. >> Community hope. >> Oh, I'm so sorry. It is and was

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sponsored by the community hope fund and the uh Ocean Township Police Department um fund as well for snacks. And let's see, there's a few things. Um, I did have one question about I saw there's the Mammoth County is

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celebrating America's 250th anniversary at the June 28th parade in Middletown and I was wondering if we're representing Ocean Township in that parade. >> I think everybody's invited to attend. Yeah. So, absolutely, you can join up.

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>> Jen is leading the 250 committee, so you can >> Yeah. email Jen Nordstrom. She's going away. when you email her tomorrow uh before she leaves. She'll be back in a week after that. >> Okay. Because I would like to participate in the parade and also represent Ocean and hopefully other

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people will come as well and we can have a sign up to facilitate that day. The Shade Tree and Environmental Commission meeting is June 4th um starting at 7 p.m. in the upstairs meeting room. And I did attend the

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Mammoth County Children's Mental Health Awareness Day at the Aair Farm. I just wanted to mention that there were representatives there from the state um cannabis regulatory commission and their goal is to provide presentations to schools and community to deter teens and

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youth from using marijuana. Um so we do have that availability. they're willing to come out to our schools to talk to our high school students or um Grammar school students um for free on that topic. That's it. Thank you.

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>> Thank you. Uh Deputy Mayor Fischer. >> Yes. Thank you, Mayor. I have two things. I have a little uh a happy thought and then not such a and a sad thought, but let me start with the happy thought. I just want to let you know that Kenny Picket Day is on. uh quarterback for the Carolina Panthers is

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coming back to his hometown on uh June 28th. That is a Sunday from 9 to 11:00. I suggest everybody sign up as quickly as possible. It does sell out. Uh it's been a wonderful event for the last few years. Kenny sticks around. He signs autographs. He throws balls with the

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kids. It's uh probably one of the uh more enjoyable events. On a more somber note, mayor, I want to read something. Um I saw this on the internet. This was from Henry Vicaro and it was about Stacy Kles. I just want to read this. Once in a while you come across someone who

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simply who s who is simply filled with kindness, love, warmth, and everything good that's in this world. And that person was Stacy. Stacy touched so many lives. Our children, our families, our friends, our neighbors, her co-workers in Ocean Township school system, and our

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community as a whole. I did know I did know Stacy rather well, but she had that rare ability to make you feel like family almost instantly through her beautiful and loving personality. I just wanted to read that. I thought it was touching and um you know, prayers to the

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family and um you know, unfortunately we, you know, we are officially speaking here, so we're not going to speak about the case, but I just wanted to let you know because uh this is a big part of our community. Thank you, mayor. >> Thanks, Deputy Mayor. Uh yeah, those those words really spell it out about

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Stacy. She was really a uh um just really really a a sweet person. Um you I told the story, you know, how I was stuck in a snowstorm for 36 hours on the road and I came home and uh on my porch from her was a bottle of wine and some

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flowers from my wife welcoming us back home from uh that horrid trip. And uh that's the type of person that she was. She had a heart of gold. Uh she was a sweetheart. Um and like Henry said, she had a knack for making you feel like family. And uh it's it's it's sad. Uh

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thank you for reading that, Deputy Mayor. Um on a happier note. Um what's that? >> Oh, I didn't get you. I'm sorry. Oops. >> I thought you were really >> Sorry. I forgot. I I switched it up. That's the problem when you when you

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rotate like that. Councilwoman, go ahead. >> Sorry. No, >> sorry about that. >> Um, I just want to say thank you to everybody in our town that um helped organize our very um special Memorial

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Day ceremony uh this past Monday and uh it was rainy but we really made the best of it and it was really very touching um to hear the veterans speak um and thanks to everybody who attended. Uh and just uh the second thing that I just want to mention is a public service am

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announcement, a call for entries uh on what America means to me, an essay poem contest and poster contest. The deadline has been extended to June 10th. So we encourage anybody who wants to participate uh to send in entries and you can uh see each of our Facebook

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pages and the Ocean Township uh Facebook page for more information. Thank you. >> Thank you, Councilwoman, and my apologies again. Um, I want to congratulate uh one of our planning board members and resident Amir Burkovitz uh for being honored for

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Jewish Heritage Month along with uh Vicky Brazniaak uh Fischer. Did I miss anybody from our community? >> Um Isaac Mazerie um for Jewish Heritage Month. Uh I want to thank you know their for their >> uh I don't think he's uh

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>> maybe he was deal. >> Yeah, >> he lives here. Um they were honored for Jewish Heritage Month. I want to thank Senator Andy Kim for coming down to visit Rising Treetops uh yesterday. Uh he got to see what that

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facility is all about on Mammoth Road. Um it's truly a magnificent uh place uh special needs 16 acres right here in town. Um respit care it's it's quite the site. Um look them up. Rising treetops.

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They have several uh fundraisers. They're all, you know, it's all done through fundraising and things of that nature and uh grant opportunities. So, it's a a great spot. I met with the D commissioner um at Pastanac down in

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Shark River. He came down to meet with uh about eight mayors uh on the shore area to talk about various ways that the D can improve. Um that's probably one of our most difficult uh areas within the state of New Jersey

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that really holds up quite a bit. So uh the mayors all mentioned the fact that the permitting process needs to be worked on. Uh dredge spoils. We need more areas to put the dredge spoils. So I I feel like they're getting off on the right foot with trying to find out how

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to how to fix things and and mitigate and and get a more streamlined process with that department. And finally, I had a good friend of mine and um uh former law enforcement officer

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uh Jimmy Billig uh presented his company U Act, which does um they educate law enforcement on human and child trafficking, not just sex trafficking, but trafficking in general, whether it's work or whatever. He is going to be

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training all 47,000 law enforcement officers in the state of Florida. He reached out to me, wanted to get up here and meet with somebody. So, Chief Santino was more than happy to meet with him. So, he actually presented in front of Sheriff Golden and several

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about 30 police officers out at the sheriff's department. Pretty uh good program for the police officers. And I'm hoping that we bring it up here because uh as everybody knows sex trafficking, human trafficking, child trafficking is

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a very serious matter. So, anything that we can do to help out and get the officers educated so that they can identify uh these types of people, um it's a bonus to the state of New Jersey. So, I want to thank Jimmy for coming up here and doing that presentation. Uh, with

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that being said, we have a consent agenda. And I'd like to mention that all matters listed on the consent agenda are considered routine by the town of council and will be enacted by one motion in the form listed below. There will be no separate discussion on these items. If a discussion is desired on any

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item, that item will be considered separately. The purpose of the public portion is to solely ask questions to understand resolutions that appear on this agenda and is not an occasion for a public hearing on an ordinance. All questions not related to the item on the agenda should be asked during the public

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comments portion at the conclusion of the meeting. Are there any questions as it relates to the agenda only? >> Two things, Mr. Mayor. >> Oh, yeah. We're pulling um resolution 26113 and which what other >> That's it. Just 26-113.

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Yes. >> And I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to ask this upstairs. Um what was the reason for 115 the qualifications for prosecutor and ultimate prosecutor? >> It's been a while since we went out for the position. So we decided we're going to do

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>> decide that >> they just came. >> Okay. Who came? >> The chief and Dave go after prosecutor. Yeah, that's news also. >> That's why I sent it out, right?

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>> Yep. >> Okay. Anyone wishing to be heard on any of the consent agenda, please step up to the microphone. State your name and address for the record. Seeing none, do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda? >> I'll move to approve the consent agenda.

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>> Second. >> I'll second. >> Roll call. >> A chair. >> Yes. I'm going to stayain on. >> Okay. >> Fisher, >> yes. >> Kaplan, >> yes. >> Telerico, >> yes. >> And

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>> um yes on everything but 115. I will vote no on that. vouchers in the amount of $1,798,6310. Someone please offer. >> I'll offer. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> The chera? >> Yes. >> Fisher? >> Yes. >> Kaplan? >> Yes. >> Terico? >> Yes.

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>> And Neenny? >> Yes. Ordinances up for adoption. Ordinance 2541, which is an ordinance amending chapter 12 of the revised general ordinances of the township of ocean 1965 prohibiting parking along Elberon Boulevard. Can someone please open the

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public comment on ordinance 2541? >> I'll move to open public comment on ordinance 2541. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Aera? >> Yes. >> Fisher? >> Yes. >> Kaplan? >> Yes. >> Telerico? >> Yes. >> And Nepalani? >> Yes. Anyone wishing to be heard on ordinance 2541, please step up to the

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microphone, state your name and address for the record. Seeing none, do I have a motion to close public discussion on ordinance 2541? I'll move to close public discussion on ordinance 2541. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Aera. >> Yes.

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>> Fisher. >> Yes. >> Kaplan. >> Yes. >> Terrico. >> Yes. >> And >> yes. Action on ordinance 2541. >> I move to approve ordinance 2541 and publish according to law. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> A chair?

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>> Yes. >> Fisher? >> Yes. >> Kaplan? >> Yes. >> Karico? >> Yes. >> Napleani? >> Yes. That ordinance passes. Ordinance 2542, which is an ordinance amending chapter 21 of the comprehensive land development ordinance of the township of ocean section 21-39A

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CVO cannabis business overlay zone site standards for cannabis businesses to hours of public operation. Can someone please open public discussion on ordinance 2542? Move to open public discussion on ordinance 2542. >> Second.

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>> Second. >> Roll call. >> A chair. Yes. >> Fisher. >> Yes. >> Kaplan. >> Yes. >> Telerico. Napan. >> Yes. Uh, anyone wishing to be heard on ordinance 2542, please step up to the microphone. State your name and address for the record.

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>> I have a question. >> Yes. >> I don't see any public, but um why are we extending the hours? Was the purpose? Kevin, you >> the request came from uh the business that's opening the um cannabis uh

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businesses in neighboring towns have the hours that are in this proposed ordinance. Um and because our hours are shorter partic particularly in the evening, it puts it will put um this applicant at a competitive disadvantage meaning revenue will be going to other

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towns rather than into ocean. So, we want to make this applicant uh competitive with the other towns. >> So, she didn't know that when she applied two years ago. >> Don't know what she knew two years ago. >> She knows it today. >> Think anybody was around? I mean, were there were the other ones open two years

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ago? >> But the the ordinance that she applied for under had those hours in it. >> Correct. >> How does this affect the police? Is there any issue from the chief about this? The hours are extending by two

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hours during the week. >> I did not get any >> and two hours on Sunday as well. >> I haven't gotten negative comments from the police. They're they're they have their own security. So I think the police view is that their involvement should be very limited in this operation if at all.

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>> Okay. >> Thank you. Okay. >> Anyone else wishing to be heard? Seeing here none, do I have a motion to close public discussion on ordinance 2542? >> I move to close public discussion on ordinance 2542. >> Second.

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>> Second. >> Roll call. A >> yes. >> Fisher. >> Yes. >> Kaplan. Yes. >> Terica. >> No. >> You want You don't have a question. >> You want to keep it open? >> Sorry. Yes. I'm voting no. You can vote no next time. >> Uh yes. Uh action on ordinance 2542. I

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move to uh uh >> approve ordinance 2542 and publish according to law. Lost track of the word. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Aera. >> No. >> Fischer. >> Yes. >> Kaplan. >> Yes. >> Terica. >> No.

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>> And >> yes. That ordinance passes. Ordinance 2543, which is an ordinance authorizing the sale of township property, New Jersey Department of Transportation, pursuant to the local lands and buildings law NJSA4A12-13 B1. Someone please open public

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discussion on ordinance 2543. >> I move to open public discussion on ordinance 2543. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Aera, >> yes. >> Fisher, yes. >> Kaplan, Telerico, >> yes. >> Nutanic, >> yes. Anyone wishing to be heard on ordinance 2543, please step up to the

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microphone, state your name and address for the record. Seeing none, do I have a motion to close public discussion on ordinance 2543? >> I move to close public discussion on ordinance 2543. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> A chair? >> Yes. >> Fisher?

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>> Yes. >> Kaplan? >> Yes. >> Telerico? >> Yes. >> Napan, >> yes. That uh action on ordinance 2543. Move to approve ordinance 2543 and publish according to law. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Yes. >> Fisher.

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>> Yes. >> Kaplan. >> Yes. >> Terico. >> Yes. >> And neglan. >> Yes. That ordinance passes. Introductions to ordinance starting with 2544. An ordinance establishing a joint planning zoning board of adjusting adjustment and amending chapter 2 of the

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revised general ordinances of the township of ocean 1965 section 2-6.2. Uh, planning board. Someone please introduce ordinance 2544. >> I move to introduce ordinance 2544. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Aera.

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>> Yes. >> Fisher. >> Yes. >> Kaplan. >> Yes. >> Telerica. >> Yes. >> Natani. >> Yes. And that will have its public hearing on >> June 11th. >> June 11th. uh ordinance 2546 which is an ordinance to amend chapter 12 of the revised

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general ordinances of the township of ocean 1965 authorizing a stop intersection at various locations in the township of a ocean. Someone please introduce ordinance 2546. >> I move to introduce ordinance 2546. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Acher.

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>> Yes. >> Fisher. >> Yes. >> Kaplan. >> Yes. >> Terica. >> Yes. >> And Naputani? >> Yes. And that too will have its public hearing on the 11th of June. Ordinance 2547, which is an ordinance amending and supplementing ordinance 2343 entitled an ordinance amending the

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revised general ordinances of the township of ocean 1965 relating to personnel policies, practices, and procedures, article 5, absences, and article 9, which is conduct. Someone please introduce ordinance 2547.

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>> I move to introduce ordinance 2547. >> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Aera. >> Yes. >> Fisher. Yes. >> Katherine. >> Yes. >> Telerica. >> Yes. >> And Neperte. >> Yes. That too will have its public hearing on the 11th of June. >> Now we will open it up to public comment on anything Germaine of the Township of

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Ocean. Please be reminded you have a 5minute limit. If you'd like to be heard, please step up to the microphone. State your name and address for the record. >> First, you have to sing this song first. >> Okay. Uh my name is Roy Larson. I'm at

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1517 Logan. Uh, and I'm really looking for more of a confirmation of what's going on with the property next door to me at 15:15. I've heard various things. Uh, could someone please summarize what what is going to happen? >> Hi Roy, how you doing? Good to see you tonight. Um, that property has been uh

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agreed upon by the council that it'll be cut into it's already been cut into six buildable lots. >> Okay. >> It will be auctioned off um I believe it's July. The date got pushed from June to July due to some paperwork issues. >> Uh but yeah, it's all in in the works

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right now. >> Okay. So, it will it will never be a school. >> It will never be a school. It that building will be torn down and it will be cut into it's cut into six lots. >> Okay. So, whoever wins the bid and moves proper procedure work. Yep.

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>> So, I'll have a neighbor. >> You'll have six neighbors. >> Six neighbors. >> Well, you have three on one side maybe the way it goes. >> We'll talk about that later. Thank you very much. >> Yes, sir. And tell your son I owe him a call back. We played a little phone tag. Chris. >> Yes. I am Christian's dad.

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>> Yes, I know. >> Don't blame me for everything, but >> No, he was actually pretty good. He uh he got my he met my ear about a couple things, but I have to actually talk to him. So, tell him I we'll return the call. >> Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> Mayor, if you don't mind, I just want to

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jump in real quick on that. We're um actually looking to get one developer to take the entire project. So, it's not going to be sold as six parcels. It'll be one developer is going to take care of the whole thing. He's going to cut the streets. He's going to do the, you know, the uh the sewer, the plumbing,

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the whole bit. So, um it's it's a better deal for the township to have one person taking care of everything. >> Yep. >> I'm sorry. Sorry. >> Didn't mean to take over like this. Uh to be honest with you, the the the only

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concern I have is the property line between my property and what will be one or two or three properties on the other side. You know, will it be common area? Right now, it's pretty messy because all of that property shrubbery belongs to the the building next door. So, when

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plans come forward to, you know, whatever they're going to do property-wise on the site planning, um I'd like to see it cleaned up and and made Roy, you're going to be noticed when they do that and you know, you'll have every opportunity to go to the planning board when they do their site

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plans. I would, you know, obviously they're going to have the regular setbacks that the properties have. So, >> yeah, the current status is there's been there's been preliminary approval >> of the of the lots.

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>> Um, after the auction, there will be final approval uh before the planning board. That's the time I suggest you go to the planning board and make your concerns known and the planning board >> and see what's going on and what what the conversations are >> exactly when that'll be. But sometime

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towards the end of the year. >> Well, it'll be within three years or so. >> Just saying. Thanks. >> Anyone else wishing to be heard? All right. Seeing here none, do I have a motion to adjurnn?

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>> So moved. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Any opposed? All right. >> Thank you. You have a great evening and great weekend.