We ready? >> We're all set. >> Okie dokie. Can I have a roll call, please? >> Mayor Napolani >> here. >> Deputy Mayor Fischer. I saw him. >> He is here. >> Council members Aera
>> here. >> Kaplan and Kerica >> here. The notice requirements of the open public meetings act for this meeting have been satisfied. A copy of the annual notice and present to the Asbury Park Press and the coaster posted town
hall on December 22nd, 2025. Since we are completely virtual, I don't need to tell you where the exits are because everybody should be home and know their way out of their own houses. Uh with that being said, we have a consent agenda with four items on here. And the
reason why we have this meeting this this afternoon is because we have requirements by the state that we need to get certain items voted on before the end of the year. This is a consent agenda. All items will be considered routine and will be placed on the
consent agenda. I will open it up for public comment on these items now. Public comment on agenda items only. Jesse, just let me know if anybody >> Alex Hayes, >> go ahead, Alex.
>> Hi. I just unmuted myself. I hope you guys can hear me. >> Um, okay, good. Um, I'm actually at a hotel on my family's holiday vacation. Um, which is a great starting point for my public comment, and I was hoping that
this would be for the record. Um, a meeting at 2:30 p.m. on a Monday, which is not your normal time. um right before the new year. I realized you said you had some deadlines to meet, but I find it highly circumspect that this was not
publicized on social media. I'm going to guess that I'm the only member of the public on this. I hope I'm proven wrong, except for people who are parties to whatever resolutions you're talking about. Um I'm very disappointed that more information about this meeting was
not blasted out to the public. Um some of the some of the topics today uh were taken off the last agenda, you know, at the 11th hour or maybe even 15 minutes before. Um so it's kind of um uh
concerning and there aren't even um minutes from that last meeting. So if anybody wanted to comment on some other things, maybe it would have been helpful to have the minutes. Um, I also did notice um when I logged on that it did say this meeting is being AI
transcribed. So, I don't know, maybe that's an easy way to get some minutes um on a speedier uh mechanism for future meetings. I have a few questions. The Bower Avenue House of Worship um it's very difficult for a lay person to follow these resolutions. From what I
understand, it sounds like they're going to be demolishing one building and then building another one. So, I'm concerned. Why aren't there any architectural plans? Uh, what's being built? I'm sure it's been looks like it's been in the process for years. I'm concerned about number of parking spots. Um, with
another house of worship nearby, there was concerns over parking on the street, congested roads. You know, our EMS crews going to be able to safely go down Bower um and, you know, turn onto Lincoln um with whatever is going to be built down there. So when some of those things can
be addressed um the mediation agreement about the fair housing that is extremely confusing to the lay person. It also says in the public documents in the agenda a copy of which is attached here with there is no copy of the mediation
agreement. So I don't really know what to ask about. All I could read was that there were about 210 units you all find filed the plan the housing agency you know counter suit or whatever you want to call it. Um, so I'm just wondering what's changing. Is the town building
210 units? Is there going to be a map? Where are we building? Um, I hope some of those things can be addressed and I really don't understand why more of this information is not made public. Hopefully I'm within within my five minutes. Thank you. >> Thank you, Alex. Uh, on the Bower
Brower, I'm going to push that over to Dave Brown. Dave, uh, you're on, correct? Yes, mayor. I'm here. >> Dave, just real brief on that because there's not a lot of explanation. I know from what I read on on the Broward thing, if you could just give an encapsulated version, please.
>> Yeah, the purpose of this resolution, mayor, is for the governing body to approve the developer agreement. Um, all of what Miss Hayes talked about took place at the um, one of the boards. I'm not sure if it was planning or zoning board dealt with this issue and those
type of questions and everything could be dealt with there and she can also probably get all the uh, information should be available from um, Colleen Mayor's office. But the purpose of this resolution is just for the council to approve the developers agreement.
I didn't find any minutes. There were no minutes for the most recent um Bower Avenue developers agreement on whatever most recent meeting was discussed. >> That's the planning board. >> Yeah, you could check with you could check with Colleen. Um Alex, >> but how would the public know to look up
the minutes if there aren't minutes? >> No, I'm saying check with Colleen to see where the minutes are because Nicole may be still writing them up. They may not be approved yet. I'm I'm not I can't answer the direct question to you without talking to Colleen and seeing where they're at with the boards.
>> Those minutes, Alex, those minutes come from the planning board, not from council side. >> I get it. But you're doing a public agenda voting on something and the public can't even read the agenda minutes for what you're voting on to make to be able to ask questions.
>> It's a broken record. Okay. And what about the um the affordable housing question? Dave uh you want to just give a smattering on that uh affordable pool agreement? >> Okay. So the affordable housing resolution that is being
presented to the governing body because we were in mediation with the fair share housing council um who had filed a uh complaint and everything has been negotiated and and worked itself out. So the details again um Miss Hayes that
you're looking for will be forthcoming. Um there's nothing set right now. There's just um an agreement now that the town has with the fair share housing. The judge uh who's the mediator approved it and now the council is
giving their authorization for the uh mediation agreement and the council had been briefed uh prior to today's meeting. So, how assuming this passes today and you all vote when majority um how soon will the mediation documents be
posted online because it does say attached here with and they're not? >> I can. >> Yeah, we should. >> Yeah, I say yeah, there. Yep. There we go. Thank you, Justin. >> I didn't hear you. I'm sorry. >> It'll be put up right away.
>> Under what? Under the minutes or where do we find those? >> I'll let Jesse respond to that. I have no idea. I will figure a way to put them on there. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Any other uh questions from the public, Jesse?
>> I don't see anyone. >> Um wait, >> Patty Cronheim? >> Yeah, I just want you it want um is this the time for the Shadri Commission just to say a little bit about the resolution that you have the council has in front of them? >> If you want to make a quick statement on
that, Patty, that's fine. being that it is an agenda item. So go ahead. >> Sure. I just I just want to >> Sure. I just want to make aware uh this was a year and a half process where we included the schools. I know you all uh met with the students who did the wonderful outreach. We've had two public
stakeholder meetings uh on this uh comprehensive forestry management plan which was an NJD requirement that the town uh present a new five-year plan. uh you'll you'll which you've been sent and uh what is uh that you'll be looking at
to uh pass a resolution on is the final plan and we will then if it is approved be sending it to the D so we can continue our relationship with the D and uh have the ability to have the proper insuranceances and uh apply for grants
and all the important things that we do. The guts of the grant basically looks at tree uh tree safety and it looks at um the goals of maintaining sea he tree safety uh healthy canopy uh and uh
training all kinds of of things that were in our last grant. It's uh we go more in detail on this grant including things that we weren't included before such as how to address um and the prior need for prioritization over burned communities in the uh in the township.
But uh I we we can ask answer any questions on it you have. And if you all wanted to ever do a de a deep dive on this, we worked with a consultant um with Sterling uh Sterling Consultants and uh we'd be happy to meet with him and with the council at a workshop
meeting if you ever want to do a deep dive on the CFMP. >> I have a few questions if I may. >> Sure. >> So I did read the plan and thank you for that. Um, my first question is if it was to start on January 1st, 2025, why are
we approving it now? >> Well, that was because of COVID. The D basically gave everyone an extension in the state of New Jersey uh because of COVID. It changed the timing. So, everyone who's submitting plans now is
backdating them 2025. So, that was a COVID related NJ decision. >> Okay. But we couldn't date it for 2026 till 2030. >> No. >> Okay. Uh my second question is I read
that 71% of the trees in our town are poor or fair. So how are we addressing and when are we re-evaluating those trees? >> Well, Patty, let me let me address >> Hey, Norm, jump in. >> This is Norm. I'm the chairperson of the Shay tree commission.
>> Hi. And first, it turns out that in some bizarre way, even though our plan, previous plan was five almost five years. >> Norm, hold on one second. Uh because I we obviously with the um with the meeting being virtual, I just want everybody to
understand that Norm Colton, chairman of the Shade Tree Commission, just want to let people know who you are and why you're >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So, it turns out that uh so the the last plan would have been some number of years ago. They're five-year plans, okay? But in some weird way that
they do it, the year that the plan starts is the year you have to complete the plan. It's a weird system. You write the plan that year, but it sort of incorporates that year, you know? So, so it's kind of weird the way they do that
sort of thing. But the rest of the stuff uh then that we have um as far as what's going into that, okay, it addresses the things that we have to address. It doesn't necessarily say how we're going to address them in this particular plan. It it talks about the things that we're going to do. For
example, we had an inventory, a tree inventory >> that did not cover the whole town. So some in there, it talks about how we're going to complete that inventory and things of that nature. Okay? And when we have any trees that we find that are hazardous then that's taken over by
combination of public works and uh and community development is which because that's where our uh our tree professional resides and so on and so forth and uh and then the funding of all of that stuff has to be made uh that's where the council comes in with respect
to what we where funding is available for those things including the sha tree fund that exists already and other things that we may have to do between working with public works and um and the council and the community. >> Okay. And then my other question is do
we have a map of where the new trees are being planted? Cuz I didn't see that in the report. >> We we haven't we haven't right at this moment got a list of locations and specifically where we're going to plant trees. Okay. Don't forget the uh the plan covers trees that are in the public
on public domain. Doesn't include private property and so on and so forth. Okay. And if you've looked in the town based on the fact that with the rights of way are such that they're not they're not safe to we don't have room in the regular streets that people live on. We have very few places where there's room
to plant trees on those properties right now. Okay. So, we're going to have to try and be creative about something that might be able to be done in those kind of areas. But the rest of the areas are going to be some property, you know, parks and so on and so forth. So, we're we're working on our next steps are to
develop a plan. And [clears throat] what this plan does in this plan, it says these are the things that we're going to do. We're going to develop a planting plan. We're going to, you know, come up with equipment that we can use if the township is going to be participant and or going to just hire contractors and so
on and so forth. That's what the plan talks about. doesn't actually talk about specifics of we're going to plant trees here or there, but that over these next years we plan to plant trees and we're going to continue with our survey and any number of other things that are all
in there. Arbor Day programs that we would have which we've had one haven't had as many Arbor Day programs as we could have that were major and which includes planting of trees, you know, like a whole public planting of a tree and so on and so forth. That's the kind of stuff that's in this particular plan.
It's not a plan for the how we're going to do the work but identifying the work that we have to >> okay so this plan is to identify what is needed for the forestry program and then over the next what year or two years
we're going to >> there's a there's a five-year plan uh plan and our our consultant is on here now it's for some reason it says Jacob but it's Ted that's correct >> yeah um is on and this is a broader lens is the D asked for is a broader lens for
what our priorities are, what we're going what we're planning on doing and how we're planning on doing it. And then with using this plan, we can dig down and do the specifics. We we do have a couple of sites already where we are going to be planting trees in specific areas, Colonial Terrace on a Park on
Mapekco. There are projects like that in the works, but the focus of this plan is to really create a road map, a solid road map that we can follow. Ted, do you want to add to that at all? Yeah. So, Councilwoman Telerico, I just wanted to uh clarify one other thing. You had asked about that percentage of fair and
good condition trees. >> Yes. >> That's based on that's based on the subset survey that was performed, which was a partial. So, that is not a complete clear overview of all trees in the community. That is only what was provided with that sampling of the
partial tree inventory. Does that make sense? >> Yeah. So the 11 square miles, how many how much did it cover? >> So there is a there is a map and um Mr. Colton could either answer that probably better than I can. How much of an area
uh was covered by that? It was a partial inventory which I think included uh somewhere uh of subsets of community areas, not specifically a larger swath of the community. So in other words, it was dotted into series of neighborhoods
at that best, >> right? The what we did was we covered all of the parks and we covered all of the school properties. We had to make a had to make an arrangement with the board of education so that they would be included and when this kind of a thing because that's technically not the
township's properties and so on and so forth. So, we covered those and then we started working in on the east side of 35, you know, in Oak area and so on and so forth. And then eventually, um, you know, it's so as it went as it
processed, we we only got so far. So, we still have more to do here. We have to do a lot of stuff on the west side of 35. We didn't except for the parks and schools and that type of thing. We didn't do anything. So, there's still a lot more to do. I would >> So, is this is this management plan? I
mean it's not all-encompassing of the full town. So do we have to continue on with the plan or >> No. The management plan encompasses the town. The inventory is a section of the plan that was done by a separate grant with the Davies Resource Group did an
inventory of the existing trees. The plan talks about the whole town, but the inventory, we've only been able to inventory so far so much of the town. And we prioritize the swasts of land that had the most public >> trees. We wanted to see the health and
so forth of those trees. And we really look forward, I just want to we really look forward to working with the council and with the planning board and with environmental commission. We've been working with environmental commission and people on the planning board and the DPW in the development of this plan. It we did, you know, shade tree didn't do
this in isolation. We did this as I said with a lot of public input, people who run the watersheds uh and so the different departments in the town, town administrator. So we really look forward to working with everyone moving forward about how to now enact these goals in
this plan and find that very exciting. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. Can I ask a follow-up question? So, hi Patty. Hi, uh, Norm. >> Yes. >> Um, you know, my standard, what's taken so long? Why don't we have a planting
plan in place? It's been at We've been at it for five years. I know you came on about a year ago, Patty. >> About two years now. >> Two years. That's not um Why does it take so long to get a planning plan in place? >> Well, it's like you want us to You can't build a cake unless you have the flour
and the eggs and all the ingredients. We needed this plan. We needed the inventory. We needed public We needed public input. >> Hold on, Patty. Patty, if this is a follow-up to the five-year plan that we're already in, why didn't we just use that plan?
>> That plan didn't have specific planting recommendations either. I mean, >> you also attended the council meetings and I've been to shade tree commission meetings asking for this and nobody mentioned that we needed to revise this plan to get a planning plan in place. this plan. >> Hold on. We have hundreds of thousands
of dollars sitting in a budget waiting for you to come up with a plan. As far as I'm concerned, we're wasting the township's money because it's just sitting there and it's doing nothing. I can go find >> Which money are you referring to? Because I'm sorry. >> Hold on. >> Okay.
>> I can go find 10 places to plant trees with 150, 300, $500,000 that we >> What's it taken so long? Well, Rob, I I would say that we've been we've been behind. We've been we haven't been as um forward look, you know, in pushing
forward to to plant a lot of trees so far as as we could. I admit that. Okay. But the plan itself, you know, for example, Ted's work is we got another granted for Ted to do this uh this thing. This is a requirement of the state. Okay. The mo the most important
thing is to keep our accreditation with New Jersey urban and community forestry program. What that does is it pro it inde it pro protects the town uh for anything that might happen if as if we were totally ignoring everything and and bad things happen with trees.
Okay. So it's it's a part of the uh the whole D program you know that you have. So, part of that includes having a 5-year plan that says what what we're doing. Every year we put send in a thing that says what we've done, which I I admit has not been that great an amount
of things. Part of most of the trees, uh, the streets where we really want to do things, we have to want to address that with the council what things we might be able to do. um without getting into that because it doesn't even it's not even included in this plan. But the only place in residential communities
now that trees can successfully get planted if you want to have treeline streets are actually on private property. Okay. So that's that's an issue that we have. So planting a few more trees in Joe Player Park. Yes, we could throw a few more trees in and so on and so forth, but we're trying to we want to have a better plan overall to to
get everything done in a timely manner. when right now >> when you say a timely manner norm again we've been at this five years so what is the target let me ask hold on hold on let me ask the question what is the target date to have the plan to the council
>> which plan the planting plan or the tree plan >> because this this is not the planting plan >> I I understand that but you guys opened yourself up to questions so what the heck >> well well here's part of the issue we the first thing the first when we had all the people come to town, the people
all the various organizations came to the stakeholder meetings including members of the general public. Okay. And TED led them through what were the most highest priorities for us to do things in general. Okay. And the highest priority was community safety. Okay. So personally I think the first things to
do are to complete this tree to get the tree survey done as fast as we can so that we know where all the dangerous tree where the most dangerous trees are and get rid of all those dangerous trees. Okay, the dangerous trees that were identified in that first part of the survey have been addressed. Okay.
And uh so that's that's a good thing. But there are a lot more that Ted and uh Bill Brooks have driven around and just looked and they see there's trees that are dangerous trees that are that are towns the town's trees that needs to be have something done with but they haven't been specifically sorted out and
surveyed you know and so on and so forth. Okay, so that's the first thing we have to do. The second one, >> how long's that been going on, Nor? >> Excuse me. >> How long has Bill's been on staff for what? Two years now. >> Uh right, right. Well, he's he's has
seen he has seen a few, but he has not gone out and walked around every tree. He's he's just they're looking at things they see that might be dangerous trees that that that when you know in a driveby basis which is one of the first levels of uh survey that we think we want to take under the you know once we
get get going on the new plan >> and I would just like to add Rob um you know we we're working on parallel tracks too here because we had to create this plan it's required which took a lot of work uh and then we also have right now
two planting plans going on that we were doing. One in a colonial terrace um fixing the park there. So that's a planting plan that's already in the works and in place. And then the other one that we're just doing that we're coordinating with with the township is
the park on Wikipek. So we are actually doing two planting projects right now for for an entire planning to plant come up with a plan for the entire township is we're going to require as Norm said it's going to require public private
partnerships. It's going to require >> for two years. How much more partnership? >> Excuse me. Can I finish please because you asked a question. >> I got it. >> In the plan that we have now is a yearbyyear what we're going to do and how we're going to try to do it. Okay,
we needed to get public input. I can come up with a plan. You can come up with a plan. We can say what we think is best. But we've, you know, but that's not really how you serve the T township. You need to hear from everyone else. And we did. We took the time. We got that information. And now we're ready to move
forward. I would love I could, you know, write a a list for you of places we should plant. Obviously, the overburdened communities around Route 35, but that's going to need public private partnerships. And that's the next thing, one of the next things we're going to be looking at doing is creating that. It's not just write a plan and do
it. We have to work with other people in the township to make this happen. And we don't have >> Why not write the plan and share it with everybody? >> Well, we just did write a big plan. >> No, no, no, no, no. The planting plan because again, we've been at this for
two years. Write the plan and then we'll get the feedback. >> Yes. >> Well, that's an interesting idea. I don't think that's how you know it works because certainly you know >> well what we have right now isn't working respectfully
we haven't seen anything >> well that's not true you have seen as I said we have projects going now >> show me the draft show me the draft planting plan I think Rob is no Patty I think Rob is right in that we do not have a specifically identified planning
plan with the exception of what we're going to do over in colonial terrorists and the park in Wikiped there's a plan that came in for the park itself that may or may not be a final uh planting plan but they do identify you know some number of trees that are going
to go in that but they have to first do a lot of work on the park before we can plant the trees so that that won't that won't happen until they get the park put together okay the other things are that uh the kind of things we want to address now to be honest overburdened
communities was not something that was even in my vocabulary before we started this project. Okay. And those and so we we're working on this this this plan itself to get it into the state which is not a planting plan. Right. We're doing that. But I think I one of the things we
should do and maybe the council might want to participate in this also is go visit these communities and see what could or couldn't be done. >> Okay? because the those communities may themselves may or may not even be places where you can safely plant a bunch of
trees either because if they've got very small spaces and the big and the sidewalks are right there in a small short I don't know what they've got you know >> and a big project in a planning plan would probably require grants as well. So I mean we can come up with ideas of where we think we would like to put
trees and we could write that up for sure. Uh but it's, you know, since some of these I said are going to require the use of private land, if you're really going to replace the pre tree canopy where it's needed, you need to do public private partnerships
>> and and we want to try to do things with grants. And we don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars in the shade tree fund right now. uh after after we do this project, we're uh we're going it's a lot of that money is gone.
Most of that money is gone. We have enough to finish a project, a Wikipe. It's used for maintenance. It's used for tree removal. It's a lot of this is laid out in the plan and uh you know says where where money's uh where money's
come from, how much comes in, what's what gets used. But uh we recommend that the majority of the money in the shade tree fund be used for the planting of trees. That's one of the recommendation in the plan and for the maintenance of trees but not for tree removal. That's
one of the points that's in the plan and that um hasn't been the case. So, you know, we're not sitting on hundreds of thousands of dollars. That's you said that before and that's that's a that's >> I'm surprised given how many trees we've taken down and charged the residents and
commercial businesses. I I I'll ask I'll ask for an accounting of the money. I I'm sorry. I thought it was well into the hundreds of thousands. >> Well, that's what it says in the 5-year projected plan. I would I also would just like to say that I'm the new
council liaison. So I would be more than happy to go with anyone to any of these places um to take a look at the canopies and also speak with the residents. And also from the August meeting, I thought there was a $5,000 grant that there was
um a discussion about where the mapping of the trees and where they were being planted. Now, the $5,000 grant went to Ted Suzinski, our Sterling consultant, to write this this plan. That's was the money for that. And then we had a grant
that was what was the exact amount of that, Norm, that went to Davies Resource Group for a partial inventory. Well, the inventory grant the grant wound up we were getting we got about 42 and a half thousand for that and then and we had it our inind was
mostly in um combination of Bill Brooks time which was the community's money and volunteer hours you know which was >> okay I mean I would love to see the inventory of the uh budget as well. >> Well, >> thank you.
I and I think uh Dave Brown is the person to speak to about this to get those budgets. We are we are you know our opinion is asked for that but we are are not in charge of the sha tree budget. >> Okay.
>> And uh Patty I want to thank you guys for you know your you know doing all the hard work and and getting this. I know it's been a while. Uh Rob, I get your points. I think that the best bet is to maybe
get an update uh at some point. You know, Grace will attend the meeting and she can give an update to the council. You know, I know that this has been a little bit frustrating um having it, you know, not having that part of the plan together, but we also
understand you guys are volunteers and we appreciate everything that you've done up to this point. Yes. Thank you. >> Yeah. Yeah. I think that uh you know once we we get together maybe we'll get together even with Grace. Uh >> that'd be great.
>> I [clears throat] mean I think a timeline or a time frame would be wonderful and then at least we can do updates and provide the public you know um some updates of what's happening. But thank you.
>> Any other questions? I have questions on other resolutions, not this one. >> Okay. Uh, go ahead, Grace. >> Okay. So, um, just a comment, I I guess.
So, apparently on the 25245 for the community center, there is it apparently there was a special meeting on May 7th, 2024. and there is no agenda and there also is no minutes online. So I did reach out to
Dave um today but I also asked when we met just a little more information about that. So, unfortunately, because I can't see any um meeting minutes or any type of resident concerns, that's an issue
for me on that particular resolution. And >> what in regard to what, Grace, I'm sorry. >> The occursed community center, the synagogue. There's just no information online for
meeting minutes. It was a special meeting and apparently it's not listed online, >> right? I think we went over this last time and it was done through the planning board. Dave, correct me if I'm
>> zoning >> zoning board, but correct me if I'm wrong, but >> we're basically at a point where uh we're approving what they did. >> Correct. But I don't know what they did because there's no meeting minutes.
>> So again, Jesse and Dave answered that. I believe they stated that those minutes have to come from Nicole, and we haven't gotten those >> those minutes from them yet. >> It It's odd, mayor, because there are
meeting minutes for the May meeting, but not that particular special meeting. And you >> Dave Dave did Dave did state that you know we you can contact Colleen tomorrow >> uh before noon. I would do it before you
know we close the offices and find out where those minutes are. >> Okay. Thank you for that. >> And then the other real quick too. Um >> Councilwoman I responded to your email. I just saw it today when I walked in the office for the meeting because I've been
out, but I copied Colleen on it. So, it it's it's in route. I'm not sure if Colleen's in the office yet. So, I'm I'm getting to the bottom of it for you. >> Thank you. Thank you very much, M. >> Um, and the last thing I just want to make a mention of, so the resolution for
uh the fourth round settlement, fair housing, fair share housing. I I don't obviously I'm I'm new, right? But I wasn't round in 19 and I did read the um third round housing adoption from 2019.
And it seems that it happened exactly the same time a year. It was um adopted 1216 2019 and then went into effect in 2020. You know, it just for me is so fast this
whole thing. and it really um no information was given to the public. So I I have a hard time for this as well. Uh I just wanted to make that comment. So thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. Any other questions,
Jesse? Any other questions from the public? >> Let me unmute myself. >> I don't see any. >> Okay. Seeing hear none, do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda? >> I'll offer.
>> Second. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Aera. >> Yes. >> Fisher. >> Yes. >> Kaplan. >> Yes. >> Telerico. >> Sir, I'm going to abstain on 25 245.
Yes. For 246, yes for 247, and no for 248. Got it. Thank you. >> Okay. And you want to open the meeting up to public comments.
>> Wait a minute. I got a vote. >> Oh, I'm sorry, John. [laughter] >> You don't have to have my vote. It passed already. We're all good. >> Mayor Napani, [laughter] >> I'll vote yes to everything. >> No problem. Jesse, don't worry about it.
>> I'm on vacation. [laughter] Don't worry about it. We're all good. Uh yes, let's uh all uh consent agenda items passed. Um I will open it up for public comment on anything that's germanine to the township of ocean.
>> So Jesse, just let me know if you see anybody in the queue. >> Okay, >> public comment. >> I have a public comment again. >> Alex Hayes. >> Hi, Alex Hayes. Oak, hope you can hear me again because I switched to my
earphones. Um, just from a lay person, taxpayer, also public relations person perspective here, um, I don't know much about the, um, the tree canopy, um, and the all the things that you all were just talking about. It was fascinating
to listen to. What I did hear was hundreds of thousands of dollars, a several year plan needing to plant um from somebody who does not know much about this stuff. May I suggest if you're doing any sort of public outreach
that you break things down in terms of what it's going to cost to do what you want to do and what it's going to cost the taxpayers, if any. Um, for example, I know for a fact that the state of New Jersey has a nursery in like the Tom's River area that provides seedlings and
saplings for pennies on the dollar. So, I'm curious if we need to plant 500 trees, you know, why is that not $3,000 and then does our DPW plant them? I have no idea. I have no idea. So, it if there could be some kind of a breakdown for
the average homeowner to kind of explain this process, like why does it seem rather expensive to plant trees? Maybe you buy ones that are two years old. I don't know. >> Um, but information like that would kind of be helpful for those of us not in the
know to kind of digest what's happening and how much things cost. >> Well, thanks. >> Well, let me let me say this. Every year, uh, we've given out seedlings from that nursery for the last 10 years. Okay. Maybe maybe more. >> Norm,
I I have to cut you off because I can't have the public commenting in regard to questions from the public. >> Oh, okay. >> Okay. >> Sounds good to me. >> Yep. >> But she can track us down if she wants to talk.
>> Absolutely. Absolutely. Any other questions from the public? >> I don't see anybody. >> Seeing here none, do I have a motion to adjurnn? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I
>> I Happy New Year. >> Okay. Happy new year everyone. Enjoy. Meeting is adjourned. Happy new year. Enjoy yourselves. Be safe on New Year's Eve. >> Happy New Year.