All right, let's call to open the meeting of uh Thursday, January 22nd. We'll start with the pledge of allegiance and a moment of silence. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Please bow your heads for a moment of silence. Amen. >> Amen. >> Mr. Madden here. Mr. Barnes here. >> Mr. Pulchini. Mr. Hartzel >> here. >> Mr. Lupch. >> Mr. Winslow
>> here. >> Mr. Crowley >> here. Adequate notice of this meeting has been given pursuant to public law 1975 chapter 231. With that being said, we will go to the mayor and administration for your reports, please. >> Thank you, Terry. Um, couple things. Obviously, there's looks like a
snowstorm's going to hit us. So, obviously, we will be ready. So, public works is uh preparing the plows and equipment and we will be fully staffed. Um on Battery Road in the north end, we're the water company is restoring trenches and moving the equipment in advance of the weekend so our plows will
be able to come through. because of the city's uh or the county's road construction project on 34th Street, Roso Boulevard, um we may have to close the street briefly to plow it because we won't be able to plow it our normal way. So, we'll figure that out. And just
remind everybody, we got about 110 miles of roads in Ocean City. So, you know how we do it, the evacuation routes, then the primary roads will be plowed first, then we do secondary roads, and then we do the alleys. So, we'll get to everybody we can. So, it's, you know,
who knows? Usually when it comes up from the south, it seems like [clears throat] we get hit uh fairly hard. So, it's going to be cold. You know, check on your neighbors, you know, your pipes, you know, all those things that you can think of. And then I'm going to ask council, you know, when everybody calls you for snow removal or get you out of
an alley like please call me and let me do that because I know one of the councilman loves calling senior staff for all his needs. >> Yes, you. So I'm just asking because >> you're allowed to do that. Can >> No. No, you're not. [laughter] Can you
still >> I don't answer. So no, but but anyway, and again, I know everybody has everybody and that's what the council and you guys, you know, when uh people call you, but we have a good system now and um between Ross Beck and everybody. So I just if you could go through and
me, it would be much easier. Um >> only if you plow all the councilman's, you know, streets first. I wouldn't believe you said that on camera. Okay. By the way, >> so if if you see us going down Spruce Road, Jody's first. I actually do get
plowed pretty quick. >> Yes, you do. >> On Asbury Avenue, it's all where you move. It's all where you live. >> Wait, the sidewalk. That'll be >> No, I'll do the sidewalk. I'm good. >> No, you get the street. I'll take the sidewalk. So, but no, >> in reality, you guys do a great job. So, >> yeah, >> what you're asking. Of course,
>> this is going to be a big one. That's why I'm a little more concerned that um it could be. I'm hoping that because you say, you know, it never is. It's always the ones that we never prepare for. >> I hope you're not John Bolaris. That's all. >> What happened to him? >> Big bud. >> They're the only ones that could be
wrong and still get paid. Um so, and then I I we put out a press release earlier. The governor did an ebike safety. I have some handouts and all that. And again, [snorts] um it's the way it's supposed to be done. I mean, we can in Ocean City do some things, but at the end of the day, we need the attorney general, the state attorney general to
do, you know, the laws so we can enforce them. So, we can do feel-good ordinances and resolutions and, you know, that's all about they all they do. But, um, you know, the governor and and the legislation legislators really got together and, you know, it's not going to make everybody happy, but as far as the boardwalk and all the things, you
know, we're we're just going to get all the information together. I got a few emails on different things, but you know, 15, 16 year old, it's going to be like a moped now. And, you know, I know some people are going to be disappointed, some people are going to be happy. I know seniors that use the bikes, you know, um, I've gotten a whole
bunch of, you know, different opinions and ideas, but, uh, you know, the police chief's here, so he'll be available if anybody wants to talk to them afterwards, but how we're going to do enforcing it, but under 15, they're they're not allowed to be on them. And um you know when they talk about the younger kids and I've said this before
is you know they're all they're told to ride their bike like a car. Well they've never had drivers like you know drivers instruction. So it always made me laugh about you know they expect kids to you know drive their bikes like cars and how would they know that? So um but again
more information to come and uh but I think it's a step to save kids lives. You know I I don't I just I can't see a downside to it at this point right now. I know it's registration. I know it might cost some money, insurance and all that, but it's the world we live in. Uh the Department of Corrections inspected
our new police substation at 8 Street. They recommended adding one piece of equipment at the Sallyport and we're expected to install that tomorrow. Right, Chief? Do you know that? >> Uh what they're going to do is tomorrow next week. >> Okay. I figured with the snow that hopefully by the end of the month you'll
be working out there. You happy? >> That that's the plan. >> Okay. I thought it was going to be Thanksgiving, but that day kept getting moved. But that's okay. We're finally getting there. And finally, the um boardwalk project is moving great from two second to fifth street. Um they've got they've got so ahead uh they almost
ran out of wood, but we have wood from the city boardwalk, so we'll we'll swap that out and they'll they'll reimburse us for that. We're also, and I talked to you guys this, between 12th and 14th Street, we're going to try we have extra money with the grant, so we're going to try to we're going to go out to bid,
right? and we're going to redeck it and we're going to add add some stringers and some uh girth to it or whatever you want to say some is uh so we can put bigger trucks and trash trucks and all that kind of stuff. So, um that I think that's going to be a good thing. So, then 14th to 16th Street, we'll be doing
that after the summer. We're going to try to do 12th to 14th Street before the summer and if we can do it, you know, we'll start with the stores front and then and work our way. So, they're giving me their word if the bidding goes well and everything goes well that um
they'll have it by Palm weekend, but I'm starting to get a little hesitant about my deadlines cuz they don't seem to react to everybody else's. But other than that, I think that's it. So, thank you. >> All right. Thank you, Jay. Appreciate it. With that, we'll go out to citizen comment. As you're all aware, first citizen comment is on agenda meetings
only. So, with that, Susan, you're up. Good evening. Susan Crackavanner, 156 Asbury Avenue. I would like resolution 26-30 pulled from the consent consent agenda and placed on the regul regular agenda so we the public can have a
better understanding of it. Right now we see we just see a resolution to engage a law firm for 600 boardwalk issues. What issues are they being engaged for? Why now? What's changed? This matter has been in front has been front and center for over a year without special counsel.
Also, why any urgency? President Crowley, you have said that no action will be taken until the subcommittee is done. That's not until May. That's four months from now. Last the boardwalk last the 600 boardwalk issue is divisive.
Taking actions like this without at least some good explanation as to why just fuels that feeling. So, I'm respectfully asking that it be removed from the consent agenda so that there can be discussion as part of the regular agenda to better inform the public on
this decision. Thank you. >> Thank you, Susan. David Hayes, Ocean City. Uh, yeah. I' I'd also like to ask to pull resolution 2630 from the consent agenda for discussion. And looking at the package,
it said this attorney is for uh 600 boardwalk issues and um the consent agenda is supposed to be for um items that are routine in nature and um 600 boardwalk is anything but routine. So thank you.
>> Thanks, David. >> Marie Marie Hayes, Ocean City. Um um I also want to have resolution 2630 uh pulled for further discussion and transparency. We have a lot of questions. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. With that, we'll go to
reports from city council. David, >> uh just wanted to report on the subcommittee. We continue we met met this morning for quite a long period of time. We continue to meet every other week. We're making significant progress uh in coming up with our data and then
eventually towards May the solution. Uh we're looking at solutions both long-term as well as short term and looking at some things we can do in the immediate area especially in this uh northern end of the boardwalk to affectuate some more activity and and things there. So we discussed a number
of items today and I think that's good. And then on February 7th, we will have our uh public presentation at the library at 10:00 a.m. Saturday morning, 10 a.m. where we'll go through all the data we've most of the data that we've uh accumulated and kind of explain where
uh where that data is leading us. So hopefully everybody can attend. Thank you, >> J. Keith, I say thanks for um you guys taking on the short-term stuff. We all we all understand some stuff's got to be done down there. I think you have a good
group of people to uh guide us in that process and I appreciate it. >> I'm sorry, Keith. I hit you with my rubber band. I wasn't late, but I just >> All right, Sean. >> A lot of people there for me. >> I wouldn't do that. >> You all right in the face, too, by the way. So, >> I I [laughter]
just passed. I'm sorry. >> Oh, if you heard her, you'd be on the ground right now. So, I have to worry about that. [laughter] I got D in that one. Okay. Me, too. Sorry about that. Okay. No worries. >> Are you done interrupting things? Um, the only one thing I want to add is some people have asked about whether or
not this is going that's going to be uh online or televised the uh the February 7th meeting. Uh Dave and I talked about this morning. I believe we're just going to have a a tape of it. Correct. >> We requested that that it be taped and trying to we'll probably I asked Michael if he could have it placed on the city
website uh so that people that can't attend can watch the feedback cuz we're go we're going to have a presentation. We're not going to talk about the hotel or what's going to be built at 600, whatever that may be. We're going to talk about the data that we found. Uh, and that's all it's going to be a focus
on the data. So, but we it's important data. It's a lot of very interesting information that I don't think any of us on the committee really had thought about before. Uh, so we'll we want to provide that to the public. So, we're going to try to make it available uh to everyone
right immediately right after the meeting. >> Great. Anything else, Sean? Peter, >> I have no reports. >> All right. I have nothing to report. With that, have approval of motion to adopt the regular city council meeting minutes of Thursday, January 8th. >> So move. >> Second. >> Okay. Mr. Madden. >> Yes.
>> Mr. Barnes? >> Yes. >> Mr. Hartzel? Yes. >> Mr. Lovech? >> Yes. >> Mr. Winslow? Yes. >> Mr. Crowley? >> Yes. >> Uh, which brings us to the consent agenda. All resolutions listed on the consent agenda are considered routine in nature and will be acted by one motion. If the mayor or any council person
wishes a particular resolution to be considered separately, it will be removed from the consent agenda. Anyone have anything to remove from the consent agenda? >> Number two. >> 2630. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. A resolution authorizing the award
of a professional services contract to Ridgeway Legal as special counsel as special legal counsel for the city of Ocean City. >> Okay. Um Sean, you want to start? Yeah, just uh in recognition of the comments we had tonight and the phone calls we
had, um I do think it deserves further uh consideration or discussion. Questions that came up, what you know, what issues is Mr. Ridgeway going to look at and um and why now? How we doing it now is the reason I brought it up. >> Okay.
Um do you want me to go or you guys want to go on the >> Why don't you go? >> Okay. I I I would address um this matter just just to say, you know, this obviously has been a contentious issue in town for um well over a year. I think um none of us came into this process
being experts in rehabilitation or re redevelopment. I think what has become crystal clear to city council over the past year as we've gone through different iterations and meetings is that at the end of the day whatever is or isn't proposed or built or approved
at 600 bay will be the decision of city council. It will not involve the administration. So as that became very clear to me um we talked amongst ourselves. We've had recommendations. be going back and forth, but I feel it's um
prudent at this point uh based on the severity of the situation to have um legal counsel that reports directly to city council to advise us as we move forward through the process. Right now, there's nothing in front of us. There's
no agenda. We haven't been approached by the developer or any other potential developers. What all this is is putting in to place a process so that if and when something is brought forward and something's going to be brought forward at some point by somebody. Um we've
retained legal counsel to consult us through the process. They're [snorts] not going to tell us how to vote. They're not going to influence how we vote. We're going to do that individually. We've all been elected to do that. >> [snorts] >> but they are um going to serve as an expert uh to guide us as we have
questions and scenarios present themselves in regards to 600 boardwalk and I I think that's the fairest way to do this, the most transparent way to do it and it takes administration out of it because this is our decision ultimately
on what what will happen there. So I I hope that's clear. Um there's nothing in front of us that we're going to act on or we need him tomorrow or next week for. Um he's an expert in this. Uh he's been uh recommended by many other um mun
municipalities and townships where he's done a number of work over a 30-year career. And um we're going to rely on his expertise as we navigate through this process. And if anyone has any further questions, I will certainly be here after the meeting and can answer
anything. But that is that is the scope of what we're voting on tonight. Nothing in front of us, but we want to have counsel if and when something does come before us. David, >> yeah, I I agree. You know, I don't know whether everyone realizes, but I call
when we have issues that come up, I call Die and she gives me some advice, you know, and a lot of land use things have come up and I rely on her expertise to do that. But as Terry said, this is our decision on on how we formulate that area of the of the boardwalk and we
just, you know, keep the administration out of that. We have someone that we can rely on that we can call whenever we have questions cuz now you can confirm I call a lot and I want to because I want to get the right information so that I can make an informed, educated decision
based on the facts, not on the emotions. and again keeping the administration out of this and there's been calls to not have the administration involved. And so we're acting on one of those requests that we heard loud and clear that we need to have our own uh solicitor
attorney that we can bounce things off and make sure we understand this site is a very very complicated issue rehabilitation um redevelopment and there's all these intricacies and we need someone that really knows land use and I think this
gentleman knows it very well has had a very good track record in another other municipalities again there's nothing. I have to call them for it tomorrow or next week, but when stuff comes up in the coming years, you know, and it may be that this the subcommittee may say,
well, we're thinking about this now, we'll have a resource that we could potentially call and say, are we out of our minds or is this is this the right thing to do? So, I'm very supportive of it. >> Thank you, Jody. >> No, no, thank you both for explaining it well. That's exactly it. It's, you know,
it's good. It's good. It's good common sense thing that we're that that we're doing here in my opinion. I agree with everything you both said. >> Thanks Jody Keith. >> I mean the question is you know why now? And to a certain extent I wish the process was a little bit different but uh and timing wise but then I have to
say that I think a couple of us were on the lookout anyways for an attorney. I know that I've talked to some and other people have and it was just apparent to the council president that he wanted to do something now. could have been done slightly different. But I I've got to say this, it came out great because I I
met Mr. Rididgeway today. Sean and I did and I I know a fair amount of lawyers that handle this and quite frankly I was presently surprised to the point of being blown away. And that's not easy to do. Uh without going into increases of the whole thing, he checks a lot of
boxes. He doesn't do business here. He has no ties here. He has no ties uh to to us or to any specific person here. So, he's going to be Switzerland and that's exactly what we need. Um, you know, as the president said, you know, we don't need somebody to tell us what
to do. We need somebody to guide us and when we're doing it. Um, there's a lot of a lot of parts to this. Every time you think you understand this, something comes up and you end up saying, "Well, wait a minute. I'm not sure what that really is." Um, cuz this is a deep deep legal matter. I think if you were at the planning board meeting uh the other
week, you saw that you saw a lot a lot of legalities and a lot of going uh back and forth, especially from this young man next to me. So, um I'm excited. I'm excited about this. Initially, maybe I wasn't so much so, but after meeting Mr. Ridgeway, uh and not going in, you know,
thinking anything, in fact, you know, geez, this guy better be what everybody says he is, you know, and kind of not totally on board. uh he won me over and we spent an awful lot of time with him. Uh he answered all of our questions. There was a lot of them and every time
he answered the question I was comfortable and I know Mr. Barnes was comfortable. So um you know I'm I'm ready to move on this. I think it makes sense because this is a moving target folks and tomorrow something could happen or it might not for a month or two months. And if I've learned one
thing in life, preparation is everything. And I think we're prepared with the right person at the right time to move ahead. And I I appreciate uh Mr. President that you brought the guy forward. He was certainly as good or better than anybody I was thinking about. So I'm happy. >> Thank you, Sean.
>> Um echo the comments that made previously. Um I I did enjoy talking with Senator Joy this morning. Very knowledgeable guy. Um and one thing that I wanted to make clear is that Mr. Crowley has has pointed out is that we can call him directly. We don't have to
go through any process. If I have a question, I can call this Mr. Ridgeway directly and as can the rest of the council people and I think that's important. Uh so hopefully we get answers quickly. I am impressed by his resume. Um I think he'll be a good objective voice for us. So uh I like the
idea. >> Thank you Peter. >> Uh failing to prepare is preparing to fail. So we're getting prepared. >> Thank you. And I think I made myself clear but certainly if you have any other questions um we will answer them. As I've stated before, it will be a very
transparent process. Nothing will happen that people don't know about. We will listen to the subcommittee and uh this is just bringing uh you know with the subcommittee I view it as I took a lot of talented people and I put them together and I haven't been involved with it. They're their own group.
They're going to come with their own decision. And I just view this as just another kind of uh arrow in the quiver of um having a very talented individual uh at our disposal if and when he's needed. So with with that said, um can I
have a motion to Oh, I'm sorry. >> Oh, public comment. I'm sorry. Um since it is uh was pulled, we will go out to public comment. So if anyone would like to comment, you're more than welcome to come forward. Seeing none, can I have a motion to
approve 2630? >> So move. Second. >> Mr. Madden. >> Yes. >> Mr. Barnes. Yes. >> Mr. Hartzell. Yes. >> Mr. Lovech. Yes. >> Mr. Winslow. Yes. >> Mr. Crowley. >> Yes. >> Okay. Going back to consent agenda. Um,
can I have a motion to approve the remaining items on the existing consent agenda? >> So move. >> Second. >> Mr. Madden. >> Yes. >> Mr. Barnes. >> Yes. >> Mr. Hartzel. Yes. >> Mr. Mr. Love. Yes. >> Mr. Winslow. >> Yes. >> Mr. Crowley. >> Yes. Pending business. David.
>> Uh, no. I'm just very pleased that [clears throat] 34 Street's moving along quite well. Uh, their engineers been on the county engineers been on site multiple times. I've sent requests to him and he's responded right away. So, they're really really impressed. They're
really on top of this and they're making really significant headway. Little corrections we asked for. Next day they're done. So, I'm I'm impressed. So I think by Memorial Day we're going to have a great way. >> Great. Awesome. Jody pending >> nothing. >> Keith.
>> Yeah. Uh just kudos to everybody involved. The mayor of the administration on the MLK service. Um the day of service is something we started in 2007 along with the soul for dinner. They were first done well. Um there was a nice thing that came out of the day of service because I do the
cleanup downtown and I really got to say and I've been around town lately a lot. Um, the town's cleaner and I think it's because of the dumpster ordinance that we all agreed to do because that was really one of the main things that was occurring. Um, but the top's not on. All
the food stuff were going in there and it's amazing. It's made a difference and I can tell you why. And even the trash pickup's been better uh downtown. Normally it take me running because I've done it now since 2007 without missing one time. normally would take me to go
from six to 12th Street, 14th Street, a good three hours. I did it under an hour and a half. Um, and we kept walking saying this, where's the trash? So, you know, this is something we did collectively. We did a great job on it. It's working. And I I want to all the
other people in the construction industry, they're they're holding to it. They said they would. That was it was tough go for a little while. Um, but everybody's doing it. um George my hero on this thing because I drove him nuts this summer with uh you know going around and saying this this one's not
covered this one and then I was starting other wards just for the heck of it. So and every time it was done it actually he had a record on a trailer moved I think it was I called him at 2:30 was gone by 3:30 and I think it was on a Friday. So um kudos to everybody involved in in helping get this done
correctly. >> Thanks Keith. Sean pending >> nothing >> Peter. >> No pending. I have nothing pending. David new. Jody new. >> Keith new. >> No, sir. Thank you. >> Sean new. >> No. Nothing. I have nothing. That will go out to public comment. Citizen
comment on any subject you'd prefer. Anyone like to come forward? You're more than welcome. Dave [clears throat] Dave Hayes, Ocean City. My wife and I have been full-time residents for 22 years. At the city council meeting on
December 4th at the Music Pier in front of 500 residents and merchants and numerous TV and radio stations, Councilman Jod Love spent 16 minutes verbally assaulting members of our community for simply having a different point of view. In response to several
community members suggesting that Councilman Lovechuk has a conflict of interest, he an he challenged them to prove it. He frequently uses social media to spar with anyone who dares to mention his potential conflicts of interest or disagrees with him in any
way. Mr. Loveuk then uh attacked a member of the public for having a different point of view on 600 boardwalk options. He belittled the speaker claiming she had no idea what she was talking about and demeaned her for only being a second homeowner. We knew of se
several other second homeowners who had traveled 5 hours round trip just to speak at this meeting. Finally, Mr. Mr. Levchuck criticized me and called me disgraceful simply because I had a different point of view. Unfortunately, there was no effort by city council
president Terry Cwley to control the meeting or and specifically the personal attacks by Mr. Lechuk. As we all know, if a member of the public had done the same, they would have been immediately removed from the chambers under police escort. Mr. Cwley also ignored the loud
shouts and curses coming from the proh high-rise attendees. Mr. Lchuk's 16 minutes of verbal assault, and the entire meeting, unfortunately, was captured by several Philadelphia TV and radio stations. Immediately after the meeting, a reporter from the Philadelphia Channel 6
News made a beline for me. He was shocked at the hostility of the meeting and specifically the comments from Mr. Levchuk. The reporter said that in 10 years of covering Philadelphia city council meetings, he had never seen that kind of verbal abuse from an elected government official. And when he asked
me how that made me feel to be in such a costic environment, I said that as a veteran, I was used to taking hostile fire. The next morning, December 5th, while driving to Philadelphia for a doctor's appointment, we listened to the negative coverage
uh on we listened to the negative council meeting coverage on KYW radio. And while in Philadelphia, the TV coverage was in a constant loop. [clears throat] Unfortunately, by December 7th, the entire council meeting had been posted on YouTube for all the world to see. my Annapolis roommate from
college called called from Philadelphia to say he was shocked at the attitude of Councilman Lovechuk and the the OSHA city business community and he said it was unacceptable that a city councilman would attack a veteran who has done s so much in his community for over 20 years
for simply having a different opinion. My roommate shared that although he had been coming to Ocean City for over 15 years with his five adult children and 11 grandchildren, he was making different plans this year. Several of our second homeowner friends called and were a rapid that Mr. Lovechuk had
attacked and insulted a second homeowner. They said they pay taxes like everyone else and deserve to be respected. Although Mr. Levchuk claimed online that he thought the city council meeting was a complete success. The meeting was very damaging to Ocean
City's reputation. The images of an outofcrol city councilman verbally assaulting his constituents and being egged on by an angry mob of merchants shouting four-letter words are not supportive of ocean of of America's greatest family resort.
Councilman Lovechuk's actions are a deliberate tactic to silence anyone who disagrees with him. And several residents told me after the meeting that they were horrified at at his treatment of me and now others are now afraid to speak in front of city council because of possible repercussion. There's a
quote from George Santiana. Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. As a community will we will undoubtedly have differences of opinions in the future. However, for the good good of Ocean City, we cannot repeat what happened on December 5th. Council
must keep meetings under control and stop attacking your constituents for simply having a different point of view. Thank you. >> All right. Anyone else? >> Marie Hayes, Ocean City. My husband and I have been full-time residents for 22 years. Um, on
Monday, my husband Dave and I attended Ocean City's Dr. Martin Luther King's ceremony. Um, as always, it was beautiful. It was moving. Uh, I want to thank the mayor. Um, and George, I know you were serving the food and everyone else that was involved with that day.
Um, we listened to the words of Dr. King who said, "Although we all have different opinions, we should all be able to come to the table and work together for the common good." Unfortunately, that didn't happen at the December 4th city council meeting at the Music Pier when Councilman Love verbally assaulted several members of his
constituents, including my husband. It is reprehensible that an elected official felt free to call my husband disgraceful just for a difference of opinion. My husband is not disgraceful as council of Czech knows. My husband is a veteran who's given countless
volunteer hours with many organizations in our community for the past 22 years, including his church and several of the mayor's commissions. At the December 5th meeting, Councilman Lovech identified my husband by pointing him out to the [clears throat] audience as he was sitting in the front row.
Well, my husband was sitting in the front row because he has a permanent disability from serving this country as a naval officer for 12 years. This is an ocean city. This isn't what we are as a community. We can do better. This can never be allowed to happen to anyone
else again. Thank you. [clears throat] >> Anyone else for public comment? >> Crawford, Ocean City resident. Um I recently started a Facebook group OCJ registered voters and um its purpose is
to gather the voters to give them a safe place to voice their concerns and interests and also do polls. So we've done a number of polls. Um I wouldn't say that they're representative of totally representative of the voting
population yet because the group is still small. But I wanted to um just contact you and tell you about one of the results of one of the polls. Um it was about handicap parking. Um, so 70%
of the respondents felt that the city uh could do a better job of informing residents that there's an application for public handicap parking space and um how to access the application and the
requirements. So the citizen comments were to mention it at meetings uh to make sure people know that it's not their space, it is a public space, but that it can help people who are handicapped. So, um I wanted to just let
you know about that because um it's something that people want and it there are some people who don't know how to contact the government to get it or who to call and that can be you know a learning curve but reaching out at a
meeting um ward meetings or public meetings would be helpful. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Anyone else? Citizen comment. Yeah, if I could just correct the record on something for a moment. >> Let's not do the whole back and forth thing.
>> Yeah, it's no back and forth. I'm correcting the record. I've verbally assaulted nobody at any of our meetings. I never mentioned anybody by name. I never pointed anybody out. Thank you for your service, by the way, for anybody who has been in our military. I appreciate it. Um, but you know, coming up here and uh you could you could talk
about me all you want. You could say all these things all you want just because you disagree with me on some things, but we all know I verbally assaulted nobody. I love this community. I stick up for this community. I stuck up for our business community that night. And I'm sorry there's some people who don't like how I went about it. But you're my first
complaint and it's been nothing but thumbs up to me since then. And so I appreciate our community who has supported me through what we're going through here for the best of our community. And if you don't like my style and you don't like the way I do it, I don't know what to tell you. But you're not going to change me standing at our podium and and thinking you're
getting one over me to to the public and say that people are scared to do it cuz I'm going to retribute against them. I have no way to retribute against anybody. It's not the way I'm going to ever go about my day. I don't live in retribution to anybody. Okay? I go about my day. I want people's day to be just as good as the next person's. I would
never look to make somebody's day bad. So, if you want to come here and you got something to say to me or you want to call me on the phone or you want me to come and meet you, I'm more than happy to listen to it. But doing this all the time to an elected official, whether it's me or anybody else, is uh it's it's it's ridiculous. You're not going to
change the way that that I'm going to live my life and and lead our city for my position when you behave that way. That's not the way. Call me, have a conversation with me. I mean, anytime, any place. And yeah, I'm going to comment on Facebook. I'm going to set the record straight when I see something is wrong on here. Why not? I'm on there
like everybody else. I'll post. I'll comment. There's no shame in my game in doing that. I don't mind it. Okay? I don't. But coming here and whether it's myself and just going forward any other council member to point us out and talk to us like there's no need for that. Never heard from any of you. It would
have been great. Call me. I would I would have met any time and had a conversation about this. And again, thank you for your service. Didn't point you out. >> Okay. With that being said, got have a motion to adjurnn. >> So move second.