Well, we're going to call the May the 20th meeting to order. We'll have the invocation by Mr. Hart. Then we'll have the pledge of allegiance by Brad Lamneck. Please stand. Dear heavenly father, we thank you through your abundant grace and mercy. You've allowed us to come together to
conduct the city's business. And father, we pray that you help us to come in in the spirit of unity. Even though we may disagree, let us not disrespect or disengage from one another, but to continue to work together as brothers and sisters. We thank you for blessing us to live in this beautiful piece of your creation that we call Okcoy. And we ask that you will continue to watch over
our first responders. Be with them on every call. Watch over them as they watch over us. We're so careful to give you the praise, the honor, and the glory you do. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. Amen. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it
stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Roll call. Commissioner Kennedy is absent. Commissioner Wilson, present. Mayor Johnson, here. Commissioner Fner, here.
Commissioner Oliver, here. All right, we'll move down here to the uh presentations. Uh we have Chick-fil-A beneficiary check presentation. They bringing the cow in. Yeah. Good evening, mayor, commissioner,
city manager. I'm going to turn my time over to Beth from Chick-fil-A. She's going to give a few kudos over for our 5K. We're moving as fast as we moving along. Good evening everyone. We just want to thank you so much for coming out tonight
um for us to be able to present our beneficiary check tonight from our um annual 13th annual Chick-fil-A 5K with the city of Akoi and the kids fund run sponsored by Fraal Brewer Orthodontics. Um this year we added family funday to
the 5K and we had a new route. It was amazing, beautiful. We couldn't have asked for a better day. Perfect weather and we couldn't do it without the community sponsors um that come out and help us. I think our sponsor board should be out front. Um our gold sponsor of course is Health Central Orlando
Health, which we're very thankful for their partnership. We had three silver sponsors this year as well. and um also our bronze sponsors. Some all new, we had like four new sponsors come on board this year um for the centennial year of course for the city of AOY centennial
year. Um we just want to thank everybody that participates every year. I want to thank my operators um Sig and Jeannie Boast who make it happen in our community. Um parks and leisure services without them we could not do it. the city of Ako's partnership, our amazing
police department and fire department that participate every year with us. Um, and of course the runners. Without the runners, there's no 5K. And of course, our cow um that comes out and helps out with the kids fund runs and all the things that we do. We will have our 14th
next year. And each year we pick a beneficiary um that's a local beneficiary. they can apply um and they get a percentage of each of the um entries to the 5K. The more runners we get, the bigger check that we can get. And this year we were blessed to be able
to have Blue Line Support as our beneficiary who we'll be giving a check to tonight. I think um they gave me a total I think it's 1376 we're going to give them um this year. So we're very happy. I'd like to add up, maybe I'll do that
for next year to give you the total that we've given away in the 13 years. It's always been a race with a purpose, not just a 5K, always giving back. Um, and it's always a a nonprofit that helps in our community. Um, and a lot of times people don't even know who they are until they're the beneficiary and then
everybody gets aware of it and continues to help them. And that's really what we hope you'll do for Blueline support. Mark, do you want to say a few words about Blue Line Support just to let you know what it is? is if you're not familiar with it. Um, and he's going to let you know how you can help.
Good evening. Good evening. My name is Mark Dphano. I'm a retired law enforcement officer. I spent 43 years on the job. Um, about eight years ago, a group of us u formed a group called the wounded officers initiative. During the pandemic, unfortunately, they u weren't
able to continue going. And so we formed a group called the Blue Line Support and we are a nationwide 247 hotline for law enforcement uh professionals, 911 dispatchers, support personnel and their families who are in crisis. We have
counselors. We work with hospitals. Um we we do a number of different things. We also uh teach uh peer support to law enforcement officers and uh support personnel. and we also help supervisors um learn how to deal with stress with their employees. This was a wonderful
event. We've never had anything like this in our existence. I want to thank um the city of Okcoy, Chick-fil-A, the list is unbelievable how many people supported us this year. We have a website. We also have a Facebook. We're very active on Facebook.
So, please, if you ever um have a chance, look at our Facebook. Unfortunately, we have quite a few entries uh for officers uh who have passed away, but it's a fact of life that it happens. Okay. During my career,
I lost 18 friends in the line of duty. And you know, it it's something we live with. But please take a minute, look at our Facebook, spend some time on there, uh get to know us. Like I said, we also have a website. So, I want to thank everybody for being here tonight. I want to thank all these fine supporters who
came out and helped us. We really appreciate it. Thank you and have a good night. Thank you, Mark. Again, just want to say thank you to the community. Um, we couldn't do it without you and especially this year with it being the centennial. Um, we just added some things here and there and had a great
day. So, we are looking at maybe doing that again next year, but you've got a year, okay, really 11 months to get ready. So get those shoes out, dust them off, you know, get yourself ready because next year we'd like to have the biggest one we've ever had. I say that every year and every year it grows, but
we want to make sure it's just the biggest that we can get because the more runners we have, the bigger check we can give. And again, I make sure you see our supporters, our our sponsors. without them again the city of Akoi, Fraal Brewer Orthodontics, um of course
Chick-fil-A, Orlando Health, Health Central, we had Minute Man Press who helped us. Um Texas Roadhouse community partner um who always helps us and the lake um this year we had the Oasis at Lake Bennett was new with us as well as a silver sponsor. So guys, thank you.
Come out, read what we're doing, see where you can help. And I hope some of you will look up um blue line support and see if that's something that you can um help them with too. And if you have a nonprofit, don't forget we'll post the application probably about December, January um and put yourself in. You
know, we go through and somebody will be picked out of that group to be 14th year beneficiary. Have a blessed night. Beth. Yes, sir. Come up front. Line up across the front and we'll get a picture. We'll get a pictures of you up here. I want to say
real quick about Chick-fil-A and besides my mama's chicken, that's one of the best chicken I ever eat. I can't quit on my mother's chicken. But I will say the other best thing about them is if you never had the peach milkshake during the summer
when I'll be on a diet, but I'll be there. I'm sorry. Hey, how it's Christmas in a cup. Yep, it is. I like Christmas in a cup. Oh, the peach milkshakes. They're great. You want in?
Well, I I got to get away from the cow here. Come on over. I go. Can you get there? There you go. Nice. There you go. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [Applause]
I can't climb over. Hey, how are you? Good to see you. I got a place for it in my office. Hey, Craig. Okay. And now we have some more here. We got the OKOY Youth Council program 202425 year and review recognition of
Okcoy Youth Council high school graduates. Okcoy Youth Council members and Municipal Records Coordinator Justice will now give the uh presentations. All right, take over. Good evening, honorable mayor and city commissioners. City Manager Shadrix,
Miranda Justice, Municipal Records Coordinator, and one of our OIC coordinators. This evening, the OKOE Youth Council will present their 2024 2025 year in review. Each member of the Youth Council has selected a community event or
department to highlight. They will share their experiences with the community and summarize what they learned from the departments they had the privilege to shadow. I will begin by introducing OIC member Zanetta. The Descendants dinner is an annual event hosted by High Point Church and
the city to remember the victims of the AOY massacre. It honors those who lost their lives and helps raise awareness about racial equality and social justice. At the dinner, community members, activists, and historians came together to share stories, educate others about the past, and talk about how we can make things better today.
This year's event was especially meaningful because it included the unveiling of the memorial wall at Unity Park. Aqua Youth Council was proud and honored to be a part of both events. We learned a lot about the struggles that descendants face and how they stayed strong through it all. I will now introduce OIC chair Demetrius and vice
chair Jaden. Through the time I've spent being a part of the Akoi Youth Council, we have participated in numerous volunteer events, including a few with the OPD. The Akcoy Police Department collects toys each year to distribute to children in need during the holidays. This year
we assisted with the toy drive which consisted of transporting, marking, and sorting toys. We also engaged with the officers who were able to help us and had an overall enjoyable time doing good for the community. We came together to help provide toys to children who are less fortunate and who are not able to
get lots of gifts under their trees for the holidays. Due to our efforts, in addition to celebrating the holidays with the joy and love of their families, children were able to know and understand what it feels like to have a Christmas with the joy of opening presents and the feeling of getting a cool toy and what they
wanted. Thank you, OPD, for allowing the OIC to have a role in our city and have the chance to make other people happy. I'll now introduce OIC member Miley. At the brunch with Santa event, the Alcoa Youth Council helped run the serving lines. After families ate, we
organized supplies and helped kids with fun activities like cookie decor decorating and making marshmallow snowmen. The kid had a the kids had a great time and loved meeting Santa. After that, we helped clean up the lawn at the Withers Magguire house and directed cars heading to the car show at
the Lakeshore Center. I'll now introduce OIC member Isabella and Marissa. Being part of the Okoi Youth Council has helped us learn leadership skills and how our city government works. We've learned a lot through hands-on activities and volunteer events. At the
Martin Luther King Jr. parade, we helped set up the lineup so participants knew where to go, and we also put up signs along the parade routes. Going to the MLK Junior Day parade was an eye-opening experience. We learned a lot about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and everything he stood for
like equality, peace, and standing up for what's right without using violence. It was cool to see so many different people come together to celebrate his legacy. The parade made us think about how far we've come, but also how much more we still need to do. Overall, it
inspired us to be kinder, speak up against unfairness, and try to make a difference in our own way. I will now introduce OIC chair Demetrius. This year, the OIC took part in the Florida League of Cities Youth Council Excellence Project. For this project, we decided to visit the Akoi Cemetery and
clean headstones with soap and water, and we were scrubbing till our sponges fell apart. We chose to refresh the cemetery because we wanted to serve those no longer with us and create a peaceful place for all that visit the cemetery. We also planted new flowers in front of the sign at the cemetery
entrance. And I enjoyed this part of the project because I liked serving our community and making it just a little bit more beautiful. The AKOA Youth Council volunteered at the spring into conservation event in March. Our members floated around between city booths, helping wherever needed, and we assisted with the
butterfly gardens, the 100redyear centennial booth, registration booth, and rain barrels, and even helped organize the crowd at the Gatorland tent. I specifically enjoyed this event because I loved watching all the kids and families enjoy their time together. Overall, spring conservation was one of
my favorite events of the year. I will now introduce OIC member Marissa. Each year, the youth council travels to Tallahassee to participate in an educational networking event called Youth Council Legislative Action Days sponsored by the Florida League of Cities. This year, we learned about
effective communication, which is an important life skill. Visiting Tallahassee for legislative days was a really cool and meaningful experience. We are thankful for Sergeant Coleman and Officer Gonzalez from the police department who drove us to Tallahassee and back in a whirlwind day. We got to tour so the
state capital and see where laws are made, which helped us better understand how our government works. During the seminars, we really enjoyed learning about how important communication is, especially being a good listener and being sensitive to other people's opinions and experiences. It taught us that effective communication isn't just
about talking, but also understanding and respecting others. This trip definitely showed us how we can become better leaders and more thoughtful people in our communities. I will now introduce OIC member Isabella. The Chick-fil-A 5K and Family Fun Day brought the community community
together for a morning filled with fitness, fun, and plenty of smiles. Runners of all ages laced up their shoes for the scenic 5K route while families enjoyed games, face painting, food, and music at the finish line festivities with Chick-fil-A treats, local vendors,
rides, and engaging activities for all ages. It was a day full of energy and hometown spirit. The event was a huge success and a perfect reminder of the joy that comes from spending time with our community. I will now introduce OIC member Zanetta.
When the Ako Youth Council career shadowed at the fire station, we learned a lot about the important work firefighters do and how they stay safe. One fun fact I discovered is that mustaches are the only type of facial hair they're allowed to grow, as they need to maintain a seal with their face mask for safety during emergencies. The
deputy chief, captain, and crew at station 25 showed us the equipment they use, how the stretchers work, and even let us sit in the fire engine. It was fascinating to see the balance between tradition and safety in the fire department's culture. I will now introduce OIC member Gunnar. During our career shadowing day at
utilities, we learned about water, wastewater, and irrigation with reclaimed water. We got to take a tour of the wastewater plant and see the process of how incoming waste water is separated and treated. We learned about the importance of water quality and also how engineering and GIS play a role in providing utility services to our
community. I will now introduce OIC Chair Demetrius and Vice Chair Jaden. During our career shadowing experience with the police department in January, the youth council had the opportunity to observe a K9 demonstration. We learned about the high level of training, trust,
and dedication required between the K9 and its handler. It was a valuable experience that showed us the important role they play in keeping our community safe. While shadowing the police department, OIC also had the privilege to watch a SWAT demonstration. Chief Agurn and
Lieutenant Olsen worked with nearby agencies to give us the full experience and we are grateful for their support. We even got to try on ballistic gear and sit inside the SWAT vehicle which was really exciting. I'll now introduce OIC member Alonzo. When career shadowing human resources,
OIC learned about how the department functions and plays a role in our local government. They are responsible for the hiring process, background checks, training, offering employee benefits, and risk management. Director Wilson took a deep dive into risk management, teaching us about insurance, insurance,
and everything that is required to run the city on a daily basis. Human resources does everything from resolving workplace conflicts to planning fun activities to bring all of the city staff together. This concludes the annual report presentation by the OKOE Youth Council.
Now, I will briefly highlight the youth council scholarship program, which was approved by the city commission on December 5th, 2023. OIC members are eligible to receive up to $250 per year of participation on the youth council, provided that they meet the scholarship
qualification guidelines for that year. Each member received an outline of the program when they joined and was informed that additional criteria might be added as the program develops. For the 2024 2025 school year, I am pleased to announce announce, excuse me, that
OIC members contributed a total of 420 volunteer hours to the Okoay community and our seven seniors have qualified for scholarships. Allow me to inter introduce our seniors to the city commission and then I would like to invite you to present them with their scholarship checks.
Allison Balem is a graduate of Keystone Academy as well as Valencia College with an associate in arts degree. She is our first student to complete all four years of high school as an OIC member. She had a prior commitment and was not able to join us this
evening. Alonzo Ramasar is graduating from OKOE High School. Gunnar Patterson is also graduating from OKOE High School. Isabella Corinho is graduating from Okoey High School. Jaden Cibet is graduating from
Legacy High School. Marissa Viscoila is graduating from Okoi High School. And Zanetta Arthuro is also graduating from Okoi High School. Zanetta is our is also a recipient of the Florida League of Cities Council to College Scholarship.
She is the first OIC member to ever receive this award. It's also her 18th birthday today. In closing, in closing, we would just like to say thank you for continuously supporting the Okoa Youth Council.
Yeah. Yeah. Why don't you come down? We'll do these checks. Come down to commission. We'll get through a little bit. Checks are still big. Yeah.
Congratulations. [Applause] Congratulations. Congratulations. Okay. I haven't figured out which one it is. It's great to see kids doing Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Before they before they leave, I want to say thank you to our
staff. Melanie and Miranda. Can't say I've known her since she was a little girl. I can't say the name. But I wanted to thank y'all for your participation in working with them, especially when the trip. Do you go to Tallahass and go with them around a lot
of walking? We appreciate it very much and truly appreciate him going to the cemetery and working and doing that. That was a great great thought. Thank you. Huh? Oh, I know. I can read that. No, I know that. It's good. I just don't know
her name. Oakcoy youth. Let's see. Florida League of Cities presentation of the 2025 Youth Council Excellent Award to Okcoy Youth Council. Did they leave? Oh, they're back there. Okay. They're going to get another picture.
There will be another picture. Yes. Good evening, mayor, commissioners, staff, citizens, and the outstanding members of the Akoi Youth Council. My name is Aaron Russell and I am the member services administrator from the Florida League of Cities which is
located in Tallahassee, Florida. And just for those who are not familiar with the Florida League of Cities, we have served as the united voice for Florida's 411 cities, towns, and villages for more than a century. And since our founding,
our mission has remained the same, which is to protect local decisionmaking because we believe the best decisions are made by those who know their communities best. And so, let me begin by saying thank you to the city of Akoi for being a valued and dedicated member
of the Florida League of Cities. And a special thank you to Mayor Prom Wilson for serving on the league's board of directors. Thank you for your leadership and commitment to the Florida League of Cities. And congratulations to all for a hundred years of of your municipality. What a great time for me to be
here. Tonight, I am honored to recognize the Akoi Youth Council, who was selected as a winner in the Florida League of Cities 2025 Youth Council Excellence Award. Through this program, the league invited youth councils to showcase initiatives that made a meaningful
impact in their community. And this is a statewide competition that's open to all Florida municipal youth councils and only three projects are selected as winners. So you heard a little bit about it already, but the project that was
selected as a winner was the Akoi Youth Council's initiative to clean up their local cemetery. This project aimed to improve the cemetery's appearance, help the younger generation connect with the area's history, and to honor an underserved
segment of the community. Through innovative planning, collaboration, and hard work, the youth council accomplished its goals of cleaning headstones and planting flowers to improve the landscape. One of the lines that they put in their submission that really
stood out to me said this. Although cemetery cleanups may not be as noticeable or desirable, they are just as valuable. As a youth council, we wanted to demonstrate that even work that goes unseen by many still
matters. Their efforts brought new life to a place of deep significance to this community and it showed respect and care for the legacy of those who came before us. and it's a project that reflects both civic pride and compassion. So, in addition to the
trophy that I'm here to present this evening, the youth council will also receive a check for $500 to help fund future community projects and continue their outstanding work. So, if I can invite you all back up to the front,
[Applause] please. On behalf of the Florida League of Cities, I want to say congratulations and keep up the good work. Awesome. Awesome job. Can I hand you the trophy?
Congratulations. Okay. Thank you. Well, presentation on understanding soil and water conservation districts. Orange County Soil and Water Conservation District to Supervisor Dr. Moyer. Happy centennial.
My name's Dr. Moyer. As the mayor just mentioned, I'm on the RH County Board of Supervisors, um, soil and water supervisors. Everyone, please grab a shovel and dig
in because we're going to dig into the understanding of the Orange County Soil and Water Conservation Districts. We're going to talk quickly about the past, present, and future. In the past, in
1862, when Florida was still 95% rural, a lot of important things took place. Number one, the US Department of Agriculture was formed and states copied. Thus, the
Florida Department Agriculture land grant universities were formed. Okay? where the federal government gave land to the states for universities to teach
agriculture. In our state, it's UF or what became UF and FAMU. Um the third important item is the Homestead Act. And what the homestead act did was it gave uh land to people
free of charge but they had to farm it. And this becomes very important. Uh in 1929 through 49 was the great depression. I'm sure everyone's heard about this. Unemployment went from
3% to 25% during a 4-year period. And effectively it was really 50% because no one worked full-time. They had to work part-time. Manufacturing went down one-third and there simply wasn't enough
government and local support at the same time or during the same period from from 1931 to 1939 there was what they called the dust ball.
The people after World War I in the after 1918, they took advantage of the Homestead Act. They were given free land to farm in areas such as Texas, um,
Oklahoma, Nebraska, North Dakota, Kansas, and in the 1920s, the roaring 20s and rain was coming down. It went pretty well or they thought so, but actually what they were doing was
tearing up the soil, removing the whole top soil. Then in 1931 came a whole decade of drought. And during this time there was extreme
poverty, poor soil, agricultural practices, extreme temperatures, the decade long drought, high winds, soil erosion, dust clouds, poor government land management, and then Black Sunday,
April 14th, 1935. If you speak to your ancestors, they'll remember that day because the dust from the great plains came all the way to the east coast and into the Atlantic Ocean.
It came all the way into DC. It came it made buildings in New York City brown from the dust and dirt because of all these issues of not properly farming and and mother
nature. Uh so in 1935 after all these winds came the US government had no choice. They passed an act and created the soil conservation
service which today is known as the natural resource conservation service which is still in existence. They formed the standard state soil conservation district act. And then President FDR
um issued a letter in 1937 telling all the governors passed this model act and they did. In Florida, it became In Florida, it became
eventually Florida Statutes Chapter 582, Soil Conservation District Act. And then in the next couple decades, their local charter districts like here in
Orange County, we got chartered in 1945, but throughout Florida and the other states, they got chartered and formed. Um, it what chapter 582 did is it allows
for local unfunded districts ran by elected volunteers to be chartered. And that's exactly what we are. Um in in 1965 the US government passed the US uh
water quality act and Florida added in many states added and water. So now we're soil and water conservation districts and there are actually there are actually 3,000
conservation districts now in the United States and they all stem from this same model act and the purpose is to coordinate the assistance to land owners from available sources public private
uh state, federal, local, basically form partnerships to make healthy soil, clean water, and a clean environment. And that's what our job is. It's a little different in each state depending on what state you're in. In our
specific state, the purpose is provide assistance, guidance and education to land owners, land occupiers, the agricultural industry and the general public and land and water resource protection practices and that's
what our job is. So, we're unfunded. we have to go out and partner with people and whether it's the federal government uh or whomever it is. Right now in Florida, there's 47 of us and we're in
various counties. Um there was a mandated review last year and uh by the state and we have a lot of work to do. So we need to form some partnerships.
Uh today there's a lot of other services here available in Orange County and we need to reach out and partner with all these here. Why is all this important? Population
explosion. These are amazing numbers. If you take a look at them in the 130 years from 1900 to anticipated 2030, Orange County is 146 times more people are here than in
1900. Florida is 45 times more people than in 1900. The population just exploded and of course that increases the demand on resources. the future. We need all hands on deck.
That's the bottom line. Why? Because of our children. We have to protect the environment. Please don't waste water. Please conserve in all aspects. Okay. The EPA says the climate
change and we're definitely under a period of climate change and we live in a state where six months out of the year there's a risk of hurricane. But because of climate change, the winds could get heavier,
stronger than ever. The rains could be heavier than ever. Agricultural runoff, it could happen anywhere. And we have 600 farms here in Orange County. According to the USDA, that runoff can go into our many,
many bodies of water we have throughout Florida. and throughout the um Orange County. What we need to do is implement the best management practice.
Florida has a system. The Department of Agriculture Florida has best management practice. And what we need to do is implement that. Make sure that's implemented everywhere. Are we are our farms practicing best management
practice? is the chamber and the farms. They're doing agricultural. We need your help. We need your support. We're a totally unfunded area and we please support us and thank
you for your time and the 10 minutes and God bless you all. Thank you Dr. Moyer. [Applause] Okay, staff reports. Thank you, mayor. I have a few things I
need to go over. Um, the first one is the schedule for the budget workshops and hearings. Um, we have pulled the uh commission for their availability and tonight you need to
pick between August 25th or 27th for the first budget workshop and then we would reserve September 3rd for a second budget workshop if needed. Excuse me. And then September
10th would be the tenative budget hearing and 17th would be the final budget hearing. We believe after talking to you that that works with all of your schedules. So, if you could um by
consensus let us know if you prefer the 25th or the 27th for the first workshop. That would be great. I have no problem any of those. I don't know about anyone else. I don't have any problem with any I don't either. No, I'm good with all those
dates. A good Okay. So, we will pick the first budget workshop date and let you know the 25th or 27th. I'd like to talk to uh finance, but it'll be either the 25th or 27th. Thank you. Okay.
Thank you. Thank you. Um, moving right along. Um, McCormack Road. Um, Commissioner Oliver brought this up at a meeting. I had um have corresponded with Orange County about it. The latest update I have right now for the
commission is the roadway is set to be reopened by the end of this month. Um, which would be the week of Memorial Day. Um, and the opening of the road is contingent upon a guardrail being delivered um, this week hopefully. And the earlier it comes in, the sooner the
road will be open. You said end of this month. Yes. So, let's add 30 days to that. I didn't say that, but add 30 days to that. That's not positive. This This is the county doing this, right? Okay. Um,
one other thing I wanted to provide an update on and it became the subject of some discussion over the weekend. Um, as as you all are aware, we have an interim operator at Forest Lake Golf Down to Earth that the commission um approved
and I announced incorrectly to the commission that the restaurant hours are currently 7 to 6 um based on information that Down to Earth provided. And unfortunately, it came to our attention that they are not keeping those hours
currently because they're short staffed and are in need of hiring a new cook. Um, so that is something that I wanted to make sure I corrected on the record. We have directed them to go back and give
us an actual for what they're going to be serving menu-wise and hourwise and to to communicate more effectively with us. Um I will tell you that so far the transition and I believe today makes
um I believe we are at 19 days at 19 days today since they took over. Um the numbers have been very good so far um even with the rains that we had last week and they have started a a solid
time airification fertilization and top dressing of the greens and I believe it's now complete. Um and they have a a huge list of things that they have to get done to address pre-emergent vegetation this spring and some of the
conditions out there. So, at the next commission meeting, um, I've asked Robert Jussi with ZHA along with Down to Earth, um, which would probably be Nick Dunlevy and, uh, Mark Johnson with Parks
and Leisure to provide a detailed 30-day in update. And I'm hopeful that anyone watching this will apply for the cook job up there. Um, qualified only. Um, and we will be able to report everything
is is working as we had planned. Um, I appreciate the the feedback from the commission on the RFP. We anticipate getting that out early next week. And uh, that's exciting because that will bring about a new era at Forest Lake Golf. And that's all I had.
All right. Let's move. That's all your staff reports, public comments. Nobody's filled out any form, so we'll go move on. All right. Consent agenda. I hear I need a motion. I'll
make a motion to approve the consent agenda. Motion made by Commissioner um Fner. I'll second it. Seconded by Commissioner Oliver. Any more comments? Not. Let's vote. Motion carries unanimous with
Commissioner Kennedy absent. All right. Public hearings number five, approval of resolution for partial vacation of the 5-ft utility easement on lots 1, 12, 13, 24, 25. Are
we missing something? 36, 37, and 48 of the Magnolia Reserve Town Home Subdivision. Mayor, we miss I think we have a second one. Skip. Second reading. Skip the second reading. Item number four. Oh, yeah. I thought that was with the I'm sorry. I was looking at consent
agenda. We'll go back to that. Number four, second reading of ordinance for 283 10th Avenue, Cox Property Annexation and reszoning from Orange County R2 to city of Okcoy R1. Banner. Let's see. Belair Belazair. Yeah, there you
go. Oops. Let's see. Wrong [Music] button. All righty. Yep, that's working. Okay. Good evening, everyone. Tonight, I'll be presenting on the Cox property annexation and resoning for their um
property located at 28310th Avenue. Okay. So for issues, it is whether or not the city commission should approve the annexation from the county into the city as well as the reszoning of the property from county R1, which is residential district to
city R1, which is single family dwelling district. So a bit of background on the property. It's located on the northwest corner of 10th Avenue and Peters Avenue intersection. Uh the total lot is about.36 acres large. The property is eligible for annexation because is
because it is adjacent to other city properties. It is eligible for water service and it reduces the amount of existing enclaves. It is also consistent with the JPA future land use map which is low density residential. Here we have an aerial of
the property showing where it is located. This is the surrounding zoning map. As you can see the adjacent city properties with the R1 zoning designations and this is the surrounding future land use map showing the surrounding areas of low density
residential. So for recommendations, the development review committee as well as the planning and zoning commission are re recommendation of approval for the proposed annexation and resoning. And similarly, staff is also making the recommendation of approval for the annexation of the property from Orange
County into the city as well as reszoning it from county R1 to city um excuse me, county R2 to city R1 for the property located at 28310th Avenue. Um with that, that concludes my presentation. Thank you.
All right. Ready to read? I'll start with the annexation ordinance. An ordinance of the city of AoE, Florida annexing into the corporate limits of the city of Akoi, Florida certain real property containing approximately.36 acres located at 283 10th Avenue on the northwest corner of
the 10th Avenue and Peters Avenue intersection pursuant to the application submitted by the property owner. finding said annexation to be consistent with the Akoi comprehensive plan, the Akoi city code and the joint planning area agreement, providing for and authorizing
the update of official city maps, providing direction to the city clerk, providing for severability, prevailing in the event of any inconsistency and providing for an effective date. Next is the resoning ordinance, an ordinance of the city of Akoi, Florida, changing the
zoning classification from Orange County R2 residential district to city of Akoi R1 single family dwelling district on certain real property containing approximately.36 acres located at 28310th Avenue on the northwest corner of the 10th Avenue and Peters Avenue
intersection pursuant to the application submitted by the property owner finding such zoning to be consistent with the AOE comprehensive plan providing for and authorizing the revision of the official city zoning map prevailing in the event of any inconsistency providing for severability and providing for an
effective date. Okay, we need a u any comments from the commissioners. I'm first I'm going to open it to the public. Anybody in the public have any comments on item four? All right, no comments. We'll close it and bring it back to the D. Anybody commissioners have any
comments? No. No comments. I need a motion on first we'll do the motion on the um annexation and then we'll do the one on reszoning. I'll make that motion. Motion made by Commissioner Wilson for the annexation to hear a second. Second. Seconded by Commissioner Fner. Any more
comments? Let's vote. Motion carries unanimous without Commissioner Kennedy. All right. Now we need one for the reszoning. I'll make that motion. Motion made by Commissioner Wilson. I hear a second. Second. Seconded by Commissioner Fer. No more comments. Let's
vote. Motion carries unanimously with Commissioner Kennedy absent. All right. Welcome to AO. Welcome to AOY. All right. That's right. All right. Approval of a resolution for
partial vacation of the 5- foot utility easements on lot 1 12 13 24 25 36 37 and 48 of the Magnolia Reserve Town Home Subdivision McFarland coordinator. Good evening, mayor and commissioners. Um tonight
staff is bringing before you a resolution for the vacation of um eight separate utility easements or a partial vacation on eight different lots within the Magnolia Reserve subdivision. Yes. Um the lots are identified as lots 1 12
13 24 25 36 37 48. Um and it is the front 34 feet running from the front to the rear of the property of a side 5- foot um utility easement. In this aerial you can see uh the location of the lots within the
subdivision. Um I have a better aerial showing some of the the actual site plan and identifying the lots but um this is located in commission district 1. Um it's as I said located the easements are located on the sideyard. Um and this is
only a partial vacation at the request of the developer um for the front 34 feet running from the front of the property to the rear. Um and the vacation request came from the developer due to um the installation of some walkways and uh partial structural
columns within the easement. Um at the time of of site plan, this wasn't identified. However, when uh the developer got into the permitting stage, it was recognized that they wanted to add these walkways as well as the partial columns within the easement,
which the city does not allow. So that's the the reason for this vacation request. Um, per our standard practice, we sent letters to our standard list of utility providers and we have received no letters of objections and this is a a better site
plan showing the entire development and the location of the the easements uh on those specific lots. Um, in October of 2023, I just want to recognize that um the final subdivision plans did not show the easements. However, in May 2024, the
final plat that was recorded did show the easements. So that's kind of how this occurred. Um, and then this is an example uh specific to lot one that shows the location of the proposed walkway. Um, and as you can see right below that we have the 5 foot utility easement running from the rear of the
property to the front. So that's why um they're requesting the vacation is because of that walkway in the columns as I said. Uh, with that in mind, staff does recommend that the honorable mayor and city commissioners um approve this proposed resolution for the vacation of or the partial vacation of um these five
foot utility easements located on those eight distinct lots. And I'd be happy to answer any questions. All right. Will you go ahead and read the resolution? Sure will. Resolution of the city of Akoi, Florida, abandoning and vacating the front 34 ft of the 5-ft utility
easements on lots 1, 12, 13, 24, 25, 36, 37, and 48 of the Magnolia Reserve Town Home Subdivision as shown in the plat of the Magnolia Reserve Town Homes of Akoi as
recorded in platbook 115, page 93 and page 94 of the public records of Orange County, Florida providing for rec uh recordation providing for severability providing an effective date. All right, I'm going to open the public hearing. Anybody in the public have any comments
on item five? Approval of resolution for partial vacation. Anybody? No comments. Close it. Bring it up to dis. Anybody have any comments or I need a motion? I'll be happy to make I'm sorry. All right. I'll be happy to make the motion if there's no comments.
Okay. Motion approved by Commissioner Wilson for number five. Do I hear a second? I'll second it. Seconded by Commissioner Oliver. No more comments. Let's vote. Motion carries unanimous with Commissioner Kennedy absent. All right, we'll go down to number regular agenda
number six. discussion on issues related to the code enforcement board and direction to seek alter alternatives to include using a special magistrate. Police Chief Agburn. Good afternoon, mayor and
commissioners. Um the court tonight, the court police department would like to request that um commission board reconsider and would like to have a special magistrate to hear all code enforcement related cases to include
both residential and commercial. Uh the code enforcement board has not had a meeting due to a lack of quorum since October of 2024. Now we don't have meetings in November and December due to the holidays. Um, however, there were no meetings in the months of January,
February, and March due to a lack of quorum. And due to code enforcements board lack of quorums since October 2024 and in accordance with chapter 7 of the city code, the city manager decided to temporarily assign all residential code
enforcement violation cases to a special magistrate. uh this the months of uh April and May, special magistrate heard several of the backlog cases about 15 to 20 and all of those cases uh that were heard were resolved and
heard um without incident. Um there are several concerns about having a lack of quorum. uh one is it delays case resolution and the violations remain unressed which can lead to continued
non-compliance. Secondly, it adds to the deterioration of the community standards. And third, it arose that public trust which will ultimately lead to the public to lose faith in the city's ability to maintain order and fairness. And ultimately it's an inconvenient for the citizens to make
plans to adjust their schedules and uh to show up and that there is no board uh being held. There are several options um that I have come up with for the commission to uh consider. One is to reduce the quorum requirement by
amending the ordinance to allow a smaller number of board members to constitute a quorum while maintaining fair representation. Secondly, you can appoint alternate members to the board. U basically establishing a pool pool of alternates who can step in when regular meeting
members are absent. Um and thirdly, it transition to a special magistrate who is a licensed attorney and it will streamline the enforcement, reduce any delays in citizens getting their cases heard and it will ensure legal expertise
in the decision making. Um, another reason that we would like to have a magistrate is a magistrate typically has a legal background on the formal training and judicial process which ensures consistent application of the laws. Due process is upheld in all
hearings. Magistrates are better equipped to interpret complex or disputed provisions in the residential codes. um they are more consistent with the schedule and resolution of the cases and consistent availability to hear
cases. Um some of the um challenges with the board, the board members are typically volunteers or appointees who may lack formal legal training and the recurring issues with achieving a quorum
have delayed the resolution cases. Is that it? Yes, sir. All right. Commissioners comments. I'd like to say something. Okay. Go ahead. I always like to have our residents involved in advisory
boards. I mean, a lot of us started out on advisory boards and we have spent a lot of time doing this. The problem I have with with code is the situation is that if there's three months that folks we have neighbors that are very upset over what's happening in their neighborhood and now a sudden you don't
have someone there for three months that it just prolongs the agony of the issue that's happening. Um having alternates is a concern to me because what do you do call the night day of and say we have a space for you? I mean that's very unfair to an a resident to say would you
like to come tonight? Well, we didn't want you for the regular board, but we'd like to have you come just for tonight because someone isn't showing up. That's unfair to a resident. Um, you know, I've received an email from a text message from I think the vice chair, Mr. Lewis and he of course would like us to keep
the um board which I understand but I I just I'm torn between the board not having a meeting for three months and then we have a magistrate that can implement immediately. So, um, it's a tough
situation, but I guess I'm looking at the magistrate at this point, even if we did it for 6 months till we could or reorganize the um code board. I I again, it's a tough decision to make, but I
just do not want to see us go for months without a meeting. I agree, Commissioner. You do? Yes, sir. Thank you. Commissioner First, you have any comments? Um I agree. Uh getting volunteers nowadays is getting more and
more difficult to serve on any of the boards. Um to get a pool of alternates, I don't see that happening. I think the only prudent thing to do in regard to the expediency of these uh cases being
presented and heard and a professional decision being made by a legal expert. I think uh the magistrate is the way to go. True. You done? Yes. Commissioner Oliver, I
agree with uh Commissioner Wilson and Commissioner Fner only in part. Um I agree with the idea of having citizens and have a voice on the code enforcement board. Um I I not sure how about ordinance. I'm not
sure about ordinances either. I don't think that's going to be uh fair to a citizen if you call them up at the last minute. I I definitely agree with that and say, "Hey, come on to the board meeting and there's no guarantee they're going to be available." Um, one of the things that that I've seen in the past is if we have a board that's not been
that's not effective and cannot uh perform the duties that they have been assigned to do or appointed to do, then we basically we strip that board down and we revamp it and open it up for folks that really want to sit on the board. So, I would like to see um the
board uh disassembled uh from the members that have been missing these meetings and uh and re uh established uh the board with members or or at least applications of folks that really want to sit on the board. I have two applications right now, folks that want to sit on the HRDB board. I've already
assigned a person to the board and these are the folks that just want to sit on on a board to serve the city. So there are folks out there that really wants to uh participate and be a part of what goes on in the city and they will show up for the meetings and make sure we have a quorum. So my my um suggestion if
uh we perhaps look at um bringing in new members of the board that that we can make the quorum. All right. My opinion is the same as as you took the words out of my mouth, Commissioner Oliver. I I believe if we got people that don't want to be there,
they can't if if it can't make it, there's reasons why. If you it's one time, two times, then there's a problem. So, what we need to do is go back and re redo that board. Also, there it it is what we need for I think
the citizens to be on that board. I think they need to see and understand and be able to judge too what we're doing with that board. So, I I feel the same way. Um, I know we have a magistrate for the uh commercial, right? Yes, sir. Yeah. So, I I would like to
see if we don't give up yet. Let's Let's see if we can come up with a redo this board. Just just tell them. I mean, it's we're not firing them. We're just asking them if they can't come, we'll change, you know, so it's free. They're not getting paid anyway. So, I think it's
it's we owe it to see if we can find out and find some new people that'll fit in there and come to the board meetings. Um, so I I know you did you fill out a form? I didn't, but I'll be happy. You have to fill out a form and I'll let you
come up and talk. Okay. Mayor, can I say something? Yeah. I mean, I'm waiting for I know this gentleman's the chair. um if we did a magistrate for six months and then revamp came back should I say after let's get through the budget period because that's going to be a little
probably a little more um eventful and then come back and look at it in six months to where we can get I mean that's just a thought and come back and review it in six months um see how it's going with the magistrate and see if we have folks that come forward. I I I
I really don't want to do that. I I would like to try to see if we could fix this board before we have to do that. If it doesn't work, if it happens again, then we'll have to change. Well, we still need to keep the cases going. So, I'm saying that's what I'm saying. To keep the cases going with the mag if not
we'll find find somebody to put them on that board. We got to We all have to do our job finding somebody in the city that'll do it. I've got I'm having lunch with a guy tomorrow that I think I can find him to be able to code enforcement this morning so I can get him him down to Mars code
enforcement. Yes, sir. My name is Joe Bander. I am uh the chairman for the code enforcement board and um I I heard your comments and I wish really wish I would have had a chance to respond prior to hearing but
it's okay. Um you made some very good comments, Chief. I appreciate that. I know you and I spoke about this a little bit. Um I would like to in in uh in inform you folks of a little bit about what happened. Um again our last board
meeting was October of 2024 November December holidays traditionally you know the way it falls the board is not going to convene. All right. uh January I personally was out of town uh attending
my son's birthday and uh but that was made known uh back in July or August. So um why the board didn't convene January I don't really know. Uh February it was
cancelled uh just notified via via email as the rest of the board members were. Uh because of this, I went and and uh I went to the police department and I saw uh Mr. Cruz and uh she believe is the
secretary that is handling this stuff and she had told me that the um the March one had been cancelled and also April at that time. uh and they said that um you know they they we were going to revisit coming back in May and they
did say it was lack of quorum although they didn't indicate who wasn't there and I am actually trying to find out who wasn't going to be there in February, March and April. All right, I'm taking that on. So,
um it's a good board. It's a strong board. I've been on as a member, as a vice chair, and then chair. Uh, this is probably the strongest board that we've ever had. Okay? I'm just saying that from my experience when I started on the
board six or seven years ago. Um, what you folks may not be aware of is that we had a couple board members who were um had serious health issues and they were out on medical. One uh had to deal with spinal cord injury surgery. Another one
had to deal with um a serious um it was brain cancer. All right. When I uh when I went to speak to the deputy clerk to uh get the official uh notice of the
board members, it lists seven, but there was one gentleman who had resigned from the board. It just for some reason he is still being carried on there. So we started out with six really and we had two that were out on medical. That puts
us down to four and that's a very very difficult position to be in especially since uh you got to have all four. Now I like the idea of reducing the quorum number. I think that's a great idea. Um I will tell you that the uh special
magistrate um I I know him. He's I consider him a friend. He's a great guy. Uh but you're having one person rule on the findings for the city of AOE. Okay. It needs to be by the peers of a give you one more minute because your time
run out a minute ago. Oh, I did. Three minute time limit. Oh, a three minute. Yes, sir. Oh, I'm going to give you another minute. So, finish up. I I appreciate that. So, I I think we have an opportunity. Um I reached out to the board members uh and I know uh my vice
chair is here as well. Um, this board is a good board. You should consider keeping it. Um, but we would like some help in trying to find some uh to fill the board and find some alternates. Um, I was going to speak to
Mr. Gaines when he was here and uh and Mr. Mirez. They both did a phenomenal job when they were running this and again, I'm not pointing fingers, but there was a difficult transition. It was a it was a bad time. you know, we were going into November and December and you
guys were coming in and we spoke uh you know, it started out with um I know it's wrong, but Officer Beck and then I spoke with Lieutenant Olsen and then um Mrs. or I'm sorry, Officer Coleman. So, I I have reached out to them and uh like I
said, we are, you know, I'm trying to help this, but but the other guys have done such a great job that I I feel like we need some support. Okay. Okay. Appreciate it. Thank you, sir. Sure. You guys have any questions for me? No, I got Well,
we've run over on that times. I got I got another gentleman fix to talk, too. Okay. All right. Thank you very much. I appreciate you. We'll bring it back to D in a minute if they want to ask. Okay. Go ahead. Send your form in so you can address it. I filled it out. Yeah. Brad Lom Neck, Veronica Place. I also spent a
lot of time on this board. I was the vice chair for a long time. I think uh I've been off that board now for six years or so. But uh I think this board uh along with some of our other boards, we probably need to look at the amount of members that are on that board. This board probably needs to go down to five
members. Uh so it'll help with the quorum issues that are there. And also if you uh you know if you don't show up if you don't uh you need to be kicked off the board after two meetings. Uh I think it's very important that we have the citizens voice especially in this
type of topic. So I I would uh I would definitely say we should not disband this board. I believe we had the same conversation seven years ago when we went to the uh commercial magistrate and uh they at that time also wanted to get
rid of the the residential side of the board. I think uh you know it it needs to happen. Citizens need to help uh police other citizens, right? There's a lawyer on that board, so they do help the the novice citizens uh get through it. But uh I I do think again we need to
to to lower the lower the amount of people on the board uh so we can we can keep that uh keep warm. So thank you. Thank you. Um I want to he the lawyer is going to make a comment about the quorum. I'm
going to let him read off the legal thing or the court. Yes, we would have to change the code uh to go down to a five member board. It says the city commission will appoint a seven member board and a board attorney. The city commission may
appoint up to two alternate members to serve on the board in the absence of board members. That's what it says currently. And also uh currently it states that the jurisdiction of the board and special magistrate shall be non-exclusive
provided however that the board shall have primary jurisdiction regarding violations relating to residentially zoned properties and the special magistrate shall have primary jurisdiction regarding violations relating to properties zoned other than
residential. deviations from the primary jurisdiction set forth above shall be made by the city manager or designate who shall have final jurisdictional authority. So that was the basis uh upon which the city manager uh is allowing
the special magistrate to get rid of this backlog uh temporarily at least uh just so you all um have some idea of the the statutory basis for that. All right. Do you understand that you
got me? Yeah. Okay. All right. Okay. Got to come back. All right. Anybody I first of all, I don't understand why we don't meet in November and December. I mean, it's why it can't be adjusted because now you've got violations that are sitting there for three months.
That's number one issue. Number two issue I think it's maybe we again I said before to let the magistrate handle for a few more months reorganize the board and um again so we don't we keep the back we don't have a backlog we keep it moving forward
um I know that like I'm on the advisor I'm the leazison to the um park and leisure and we have I don't think we had a meeting for the last two meetings because of quorum and that's an issue but on this issue on this board This is very important. I don't want to see a
where we don't have a quorum and we end up having a backlog. So, mayor, I'm interested in going for three months with a magistrate and reorganizing the board, spending some time to reorganize the board. Well, I I I do not want to do
that because I believe if we put the master in, it'll be staying there. So that's that I know but that stops the it it would turn tend to turn into where they would be there all the time and not through the three months. Anybody else got comments to
that? I I don't like the idea of of putting that kind of workload on one person. I I listening to the gentleman's comment and if we have a backlog right now and you put an audit on on one magistrate that that that's a lot and it's a good chance something could be over overlooked or missed. Um, I still
like the idea of of having a board, but um, the practicality of it is to me is simply if if you can't show up for the meeting, one meeting, two meeting, three meetings, whatever it may be, uh, they need to be replaced. And I think that we need to open up that board uh, for applications at this point starting uh,
as early as tomorrow. Uh, being able to accept applications for the code enforcement board for those folks that really want to sit on the board and serve. Do we have an opening right now? I'm sorry. We have an opening right now, Mayor Commissioner. So currently the the openings has been on the website because
there are openings for that board. It's not at capacity right now. Okay. Um there are no alternate members and I believe there might be one or two vacant regular member positions. Well, who's the auditor? Are they filling in? Are they there? We don't have any applications on file. We don't I'm
pretty sure I got one for tomorrow. So I'll address that tomorrow. And I I know Commissioner Oliver was saying kind of what I was I was saying what he was saying or whatever. I'm not wanting to do that. I I think commercial I have no problem with it. But local dealing
with local people in their houses and us setting the thing. I got a I got a problem with the master. I know. I know. I know. What's the problem? I know you with three months and then I know but you said that. I mean I know I'm not arguing with you. I'm just saying I don't that is not what I want. And if if the vote goes the other way, then the
vote goes the other way. So, we need a motion. M mayor, if I if I may, just for clarification purposes, um I've heard a couple different things. If you guys wish to keep a code board in place, um I've heard some comments about maybe
making it smaller, changing some of the requirements. If we do that and it requires an ordinance, I would recommend that um you allow us to continue with the magistrate until we bring the ordinance back. If you keep it exactly the way it
is right now, then you can pick back up next month with the code board. Um but if we make changes, we'll have to do an ordinance change. It requires two me two readings to go into effect. I'm not for going back I'm not for doing the
changing it going down to five. You need to stay at seven and find the seven people. I'm not for doing that and I'm not for hiring somebody from and putting them in there because it's going to do exactly what I just said to you. It's going to be oh next thing you know we'll just keep them. No, I'm not doing I'm not for that. Now these gentlemen down
here can vote the way they want. I just need a motion. I'll be happy to make a motion for what I whether it passes or not. I say make a motion that we have the magistrate for three months. In the meantime, we are working on revamping the um code board,
finding residents who will serve on that board and re again, that's to reinstitute the code board would as citizenbased. Motion made by Commissioner Wilson. Do I hear a second? I'll second that. All
right. Motion made and seconded. Any more comment? All right, let's vote. I knew that. Hey, you got to try. It's all right. Do we have another motion? I'd like to make a motion that we This
is going to go the same way. Six on one and half a doz on the other. Right. I'd like to make a motion that we keep the board at seven. Uh and that we open up uh we have applications right now. Let's accept additional application to see if we can fill the board with folks that
want to sit on the board and make quorum. I'll second that motion. Motion made by and I'm sorry Mr. Oliver and second you s here you think it's easy but it's not. It's not. You all of a sudden go who's who.
Seconded seconded by the mayor. Uh any more discussion? Let's vote. Motion carries. I go both ways. All right. Thank you. Okay. I'm going to ask a question. Can I ask at this point? The reason I hand it off to the vice mayor,
I cannot make a motion as the mayor. I have to pass it off. So, I just have a question. What happens next month when we haven't gotten the board together? We have a meeting and we haven't gotten the board together and all of a sudden we got a backlog. I'm just asking throwing that. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna explain that to We're going to work on changing
that. We're going to go after these people and try to get them. And can you you know whoever's on that board now? We need how many quorum? Four. Quum is four. All right. You need to make sure and I can now
I think I will tell you I know I know I was here for that. real quick. I I want to see citizens. I just don't want a backlog. Yes, ma'am. I understand. That's the reason I vote.
But I will tell you the board has had a back a backlog before and they've done an exceptionally good job in clearing cases. But there is also one other thing. A lot of those cases have also resolved that they didn't actually have to come before the board. They came into compliance. So, love to see them all in
compliance. Would you make sure you talk to our city clerk? Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. Yes, Miss Civic. Okay. All right. I And would you give me a list of what we don't have and do have sent it to me tomorrow? Yes, mayor. That and I wanted
to just um voice real quick. And I know Mr. Vander did come in. We don't want any of the members violating sunshine. So, we prefer staff. Yeah. Is the one that will reach out to any members that have not been attending the meeting. So, I will get with um Yeah, they have to do
that. Okay. All right, that's fine. I listen, I'm happy to work with you. However, we we need to make this to make this happen. All right. I know you were gone for a little bit. I don't know if you got my email. Yeah, I know you're back. I know you're back. But Victoria
did a great job in your in your absence, though. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Thank you. Um, okay. Here, let's see. Whoops. Where we at there? All right. I will on adoption of
the amended restated initial assessment resolution for the fiscal year 2526 fire protection assessments a citizen city manager rumor turned over I have resolution on this as well. Okay.
Thank you, mayor and city commission. Mike Grimmer, assistant city manager. The item before you is to discuss the fire service assessment program and a resolution for initial new fee update. The uh that's the item to
approve the initial fee assessment resolution and memorandum which will set a new fire assessment fee by ordinance which will be similar to how you guys preset the uh millillage for trim. It'll be a not to exceed after that point. It will also set the required public
hearing date to hear the final uh fee on July 15th. Our fire assessments um is is a non-advelorum way to direct fee based on fire risk. So, it's a non-advelorum tax
that we presently collect on or non-advalorum fee that we presently collect from every property over owner that has a building in Akoi. Um, this is a more equitable way to allocate uh fees for fire protection. Uh, and just for
example, there's approximately 20% of parcels pay no taxes and approximately 20% pay less than 100. this would those parcels would be paying their fair share for fire services within the city of Akoi. Uh the process that we utilize it
goes back to 2013 and 14 is accepted by the courts. I'll introduce a team of consultants we have that ensure we're meeting the letter of the law and it is uh the fire assessment fee just to remind you is limited to the actual cost of fire protection. It does not include
uh transport. So currently the annual assessment is $69.50 per fire unit. There's a study that talks about what a fire unit is. It breaks up building sizes and square foot
into either one, one and a half, two, two and a half, three fire units and commercial are uh broken up that same way. Uh religious and institutional buildings are not subject to the fire fee.
We do presently when someone we get a new building permit, we do assess them an interim fee until that full fee will go on the tax roll that next year. So this is under the we showed you this graph uh during the budget uh
workshops and budget cycle. Um this is the red is what the fire cost are have been for the last 10 years and are projected to be the next five years. The darker bar is the current fire fee. What it re what we receive in revenue. The
fee you're seeing is it's about 2,450,000 we collect in fire assessment revenue. And then we do get money from a contract from Windemir and there's some fire plan review fees. So that fee uh starting in 2024 25 you can see it's
about 3 million. But that that dark bar is what the fire assessment fee covers of the cost of fire which you see projected in the next five years is going to exceed $16 million a year. So the general fund kind of finishes paying that that difference between the dark
bar out to the end of the red bar. Now, under the proposed fire fee that we provided in the ordinance, it goes from a rate of $69.50 to $139. And the study also reshuffled some of the fire uh units. And I have a table
that I'll show you on that. So with if we stay with the 36 uh with the fire fee at $139, it will cover 36% of the budget for the fire department. The current fee of 6950 covers roughly
17%. Our current millage is 4 4.95 mills and that's gen that's uh adorum funds. We we projected to collect little over 22 million in those funds and as we know millillage is becoming
increasingly unpredictable. Voters in uh 2024 approved amendment five which provides for the second $25,000 homestead exemption that it' be based off inflation rate. So I have an example here. If the rate of inflation
is 8% that $25,000 ex homeowners um homestead exemption would go up to 27,000. So we're going to start seeing some uh non some advalorum fees in the next coming years and as we know the legislaturator
is meeting right now on property taxes as well next steps. So today we presented you with the ordinance which sets the preliminary fee. We will then mail out to every property
owner what a maximum fee will be. We will hold a public hearing in July 15th and then set the final fee which will go on the trim in the bill for property taxes. I have the consultants
here. I have Sandra Newbart with uh answer who is provided the fire assessment memorandum studied the fees studied the fire calls we've had over the term of our ex existing assessment projecting out to the future as as well
as budgets I also have Heather Ensenosa she is the attorney with neighbors Giblin and Nickerson she makes sure that we're f following the letter of the law and then we also have Vanna our fin uh acting finance director
that we've all been working on this and ready to entertain any questions you may have. All right. Um I'm going to let the lawyer read the resolution. Thank you, mayor. A resolution of the city commission of the city of AOE, Florida, relating to the
provision of fire protection services, facilities, and programs throughout the city of AOE. Establishing the terms and conditions for a fire protection assessment program. describing the method of assessing fire protection assessed cost against assessed property
located within the city of Akoi. Establishing the estimated assessment rate for fire protection assessments for the fiscal year beginning October 1st, 2025. Directing the preparation of an assessment role, authorizing a public hearing and directing the provision of
notice thereof. Providing for a vacancy adjustment for mobile home park and recreational vehicle park property. providing for fire flow mitigation credits, providing for conflicts, providing for severability, and providing an effective date. All right,
I'm going to let y'all come to the do and then commissioner is going to ask questions if they want questions. I'll open up and and mayor, we will for the July 15th, it'll be advertised as a public hearing letters going out. We'll have a really robust, more robust
presentation. Well, I'm going to let them come up and then we can ask the commissioner can ask questions. You introduce yourself and then go ahead. I'm sorry. Sandy Newbart with Answer Advisory. I'm Heather and Senosa. I'm with Neighbors Giblin and Nickerson. All
righty. Do you want to say anything before we uh let them ask a question or you just want to wait and see if anybody has any questions? Let's do that. All right. Commissioners, anybody got questions? I have a couple of questions. Okay.
While while while reading this uh as um our assistant city manager was going through the presentation, I'm looking at the current assessment um the current assessment rate unit rate is $69.50. That is the uh per fire uh
protection unit reflection. That correct? Right. Correct. The recommendation is to go to $13923 per unit. That's a 100% increase. Um, that is 100% increase. It's an additional
$70.25, right? Yep. Okay. So, so looking at that and and reading what it says here, if we if we went 100% out, which is that $13923 per unit, if we did that, that covers when we looked at the red bar in
the little gray bars, it covers 36% of that. So, that gray bar covers 36% of the red bar, right? Okay. So, what I want to know is I would like to know in layman's term as a homeowner uh that
pays taxes, what does that mean to my my bottom line when it comes to my my my my home my household budget? I've got a slide for that, Commissioner. Thank you for that. So, this what this slide shows is what the existing
$69.50 uh rate uh based off of the square footage of home. So, a home from 100 square ft to 1199 would be a unit, one unit, and their rate would be $69.50. Then you have the next level, which
would be a home, 1200 square ft to $1,999. Their rate they presently pay would be $10,425. You can see 2,000 ft to 30 $3,99 is $139 going up to 17375 and 2850.
under the proposed fee to the right you will see what the fee increase on the non-advelorum tax bill would be and then I provided in the third column the way the county does their fire fee it is under millillage it has a millage rate of 2.8437
8437. And so, uh, showing you, and I put an example up there, a home with a value of $200,000 and with the $50,000 in exemptions, what those fees would be. So, the good thing is our assessments are not based off millage. It doesn't it's not volatile with exemp exemptions
and not. So, it under this fair equitable way, you can see that the bottom line typical house between 2,00 3,99 ft would be paying 278.4. 46. Uh that same house in the county
would be paying 464 42655 under the county's millillage for fire service fees. So we charge based on square footage of the house. So the rate the bigger my house is, the more I'm going to pay. It it gets into another fire tier. And so
that is studied on how many fire how many responses to houses of that size has the city fire department made. So it's broken up into these different tier based off square footage. Okay? So it's not dollar for dollar based off the square footage. If you're in that range,
you fit your two units or your 2.5 units. Okay? So 65% of your single family houses are going to pay between 205 to 274. That's where the bulk of your properties are either in tier 2 and
tier three. That's where the bulk of your properties are for single family. Anybody else? Commissioner Commissioner, am I correct to assume that the fire fee since its institution has never been raised? Correct. One time
we initially set a fee then the commission set it to zero and then and has the operational cost of the fire department gone down in those years?
I can now show you here. Yeah. So, for you were looking at a budget uh after you were chief um the 8 million mark. Now, we're looking at 16 million to be the consistent budget for fire services.
Not EMS. That is not EMS. No, that pays for itself basically. How many? Does it? Well, not not exactly, but but by statute, we can't include EMS in the in the fire
assessment. How many fire engines do we have in the city now that are due to be replaced within the next three years? I have a slide for that. Thank you. That was included in the the budget, but I did include that slide. Uh we have was in the report. Um thought I had a slide
for it. I might have taken it out. I think that was in the report that we read. Um, yes. I want to There's three. There's three that are coming due to be replaced. And how much does an average fire engine
cost these days? Refer to the city manager for 10 years ago it was about $480,000. Today it's about $1.15 million million dollars. Yes. And that is um with a three-year delivery
time. Yes. Um the commission did um this year budget to relieve some of the pressure with the new life packs, but the the costs in this industry are going at an alarming rate. And um one other thing I wanted to add to this is that as
Mike said, this is an a more equitable way based on fire standards. In other words, these smaller houses that aren't requiring the effort that a bigger house are aren't paying as much because they have fewer fire pro protection units.
That's not how the county's MSTU works. And um we've tried to keep it where it would be a little less than what the county would would do. Um, and then the other thing is, as I stated, and it's painful to say it here tonight, um, if
we don't do this, then I will be having to propose a military increase because, if you all recall, we were forced um to remain competitive with um, some of our public safety salaries to increase
police salaries 20% last year, and that's a recurring cost. So, in order to meet that with the revenue decreases that we're anticipating, we are strongly recommending that you do this. I agree. Um, how many additional
firefighters are we going to need to uh man the the ladder truck now and and get all of the engines up to uh minimum manning standard? Well, I'm gonna handle this, Chief. Um because Chief's going to come up and tell you.
He said you're going to come up. Sorry. Um he wants to tell you that we need to hire 12 new people um you know to to run the ladder truck. We've discussed um putting that ladder truck into service right now and proposing only one
additional person per shift in the coming budget. That will allow us to put it in service to operate as a a unit. and some of our neighbors like Winter Garden are doing the same thing right now. Allows us to grow into the needs of
of having a a full complimentary shift of of 12 new firefighters. So, um that's what I'll be proposing in the budget for that. Just for discussion, uh what the study showed is the maximum fire rate we
could assess by law would per unit would be $386.75. Still under the MSTU rate. Yeah, but it would be per unit though. We're not recommending that. Oh, I know. And it's unfair that I asked these questions because I knew the answers before I
asked the questions. I'm not knocking the fire department. They're doing a great job. They're doing what they have to do. And that is the purpose of this fire assessment fee is to help pay for the services that we're providing to the
citizens of Ooey. It's nothing extra and above board. Uh no frrills. This is what it costs to run the fire department. Now, that isn't to mention all the equipment, the protective clothing, the hose, you name
it. It's all needs to be replaced on a regular basis. And it all comes due year after year after year. We have to find a revenue source to at least defay that expense somewhat. Like the city manager said, the only
thing I can see in lie of increasing this fee, which will only pay about 36% of the cost, is to raise the millage rate. And that's a no no. No one wants to talk about that, but that's the facts of life. You know, somebody has to pay
the bill. And it's getting to the point now where our ad valorum revenue is being eroded by the state and uh we're not getting as much there. So we're headed in a bad downward curve in the way of revenue
coming into the city. This is going to help defay that cost a little bit at least for fire services. And it's something that we can't do without. It's something that you don't have the option to pay for it or not because when the
telephone uh rings, we go and it doesn't matter how big the house is, how small the house is, who's living there, we provide the same level of professional service. We didn't reach ISO1 and nationally
accreditation for, you know, being laxidasical in the way that we provide support. We provide the best professional service that money can buy. We're not asking for more. We're just helping uh asking to uh help defay that
cost a little bit. 17% of what our expenses are. That's that's terrible. That really is that that's spitting the ocean. So my idea is that uh this is a necessary
evil. We have to do it and still no guarantee that the millage won't go up, but it'll help keep it down as low as we possibly can get it. Thank you. You should have did the staff report. Good question.
I don't think I can improve on that and I and I appreciate that because again, we know legislature as you said erodess our issues when they start giving when we and we vote for these exemptions, these 25,000 25,000. All that does is decrease what our we're going to have to run the city on.
This is kind of a prickly issue whenever we talk about raising funds, raising uh rates, but I don't think I can say anything better than Mr. Fner just said. I agree with you that it's what is a necessity of what we have to do with all the different people in our in our
county and the different departments when they raise their salaries. We lose we lose people to those other places which means we got to go out and start over again and start from the start and it takes they're they're offering them more money so they're not going to stay.
But there's another alternative, and I'm not going to say it because if you're like most citizens, you wouldn't want to do it. I'm not going to ask. Well, I'm not going to say it because I They'll think I'm saying that, but I'm just telling you there's an alternative, but
as citizens, and we all know we don't most citizens would never want to do that. So, but that's so then you have to take up we got to take up the slack and come up with the money. So I mean I would say how did does this
this run along with everybody else on other cities with this kind of quote? Everybody is different. It depends on the level of service, the level of funding. It's not it's not absorbent. All right. The other thing is nothing against the
fire department, but I don't think that ladder truck needs to run on every run anyway. So I don't know why you want 12 new people. I mean, you don't run it except you run it to the hospital or to the hotels. Gotta have them. That truck don't need to be running them fulltime thing.
When you need it, you need it. You Well, that's what I'm saying. You're going to have people like you said running the shift. Well, we're not we're not proposing, you know, 12 new um this year. Um we're we're going to propose an extra person so we could maintain the
minimum staffing level on that to put it in service. And um I think that's going to be That's our recommendation for the most cost-effective way to to get it into service. And um it's similar to what other cities I wanted to add one
thing too that's important in talking with some of our colleagues. Some cities are actually doing community surveys in in light of what the legislature is doing or considering doing with with property taxes. And surprisingly, a lot
of citizens have at least said in other places that if it came to cutting services versus paying less in taxes that a lot of places are would rather keep their services or certain services. Um, but that's something that we're
monitoring very closely um so that we can try to gauge what um revenue losses we may be looking at um coming out of this special session. and we're trying to work with our local delegation as well and and respond to any requests
that they have. All right. U y'all have any questions the ladies? I'm going open it to the public hearing. Anybody in the public, you have to fill out a form, too. Sir, come
up. You get three minutes. Question. It won't take three minutes. Good evening. How you all doing? Great. Uh my simple question I have is about the ladder truck. Um how do we plan on operating the ladder truck with one
additional person to the staff name? Come on down. Yeah. Give me your name over the mic, sir. Chris Chambers. Yes, sir. What we're uh planning on doing with the ladder truck, uh instead
of running it uh in conjunction with an engine, we already have uh an engine crew available here at station 25. We'll take those members and move them into the new ladder truck so we can get some use on that ladder truck. This year we've been going through the process of
getting everybody specially trained uh to be on that ladder truck. Um so in essence what we're doing is we're taking an engine and putting it in a reserve status and putting that same crew into the ladder.
So when the when the call goes out, you'll leave the suppression unit, the engine behind and take the ladder. will have suppression units coming along with them, but they do have quick uh reactant uh suppression capabilities as well.
Okay, that's it. Okay, thank you. All right. Anybody else? I'll fill out a form. Hi, I'm Norin Dwarkin, editor-inchief of Fox Populi. Um my my question is um related
to sorry um if this is only going to cover a portion of um the fire department's uh costs, where's the money going to come from to cover the rest of it?
General fund aka adorum. So the citizens will co will cover the rest of it. Absolutely. Okay. There are no alternative funding sources. Okay. We try to get grants when we can,
but a recurring cost, you know, um has to be absorbed in the budget after the grant runs out. Okay. Just super quick followup. Um do you have something in mind um to cover the services for police?
We are covering police with general fund revenues. Okay. All right. Thank you. Anybody else? All right. I'm close the public here and bring it back up to the dice. We need no more discussion. We need a vote. Well, I
don't are I thought we're coming back in July or is it June? Whatever the still got to adopt. Yeah, we we still need the um the resolution to be adopted. Setting the initial the initial Yes. new fee of 13920. I need a motion for the
resolution. I'll make a motion to approve the resolution. Motion made by Commissioner Fner for the resolution. Do I hear a second? I'll second. Seconded by Commissioner Wilson. Any more comments? No more comments. Let's vote. Oops. It passed unanimously.
Commissioner Kennedy absent. Thank you very much, ladies. Thank you. Um, all right. We're going down to number eight, appointment of members to the human relations diversity board, city clerk. Good evening, mayor and
commissioners. This evening, um, we have the appointment of the district 4 member, which we I did speak with commissioner Oliver, and his appointment, um, would be Robert Henderson, who was the applica that we received.
um prior to the packet going out. Um currently we did not receive any applications for the district three seat. We also did reach out to the current member. Um and he just expressed
uncertainty about being reappointed at this time. Our recommendation would just be to leave the seat vacant, that district three seat vacant until an application um is received for that district. And at that point, I can put it on the agenda for appointment.
Okay. Will that create a May I ask a question, mayor? Go ahead. Will that create a quorum issue on that board? No, because our quorum is based on our membership of of members on the board, not on any vacancies. So even though it
say may be a seven member board, if there's only six members or quorums based on the six members that are currently on the board, we wouldn't base it off of the seven. So is it 3 plus one? Correct. It's 51. Okay. Now with that board, I don't think
we've had an issue with quorum. Anybody else? All right. We need to we have to vote on that. We I think you guys made a formal motion at the last meeting for your appointment. So, we would just be making a formal motion for the appointment of Robert Henderson to
represent district 4. You want to make that commission? Yep. I'll make the motion to appoint uh Mr. Henderson uh as the District 4 member of the HRDB board. We hear a second. I'll second. Second by Commissioner Wilson. Any more talk? Let's vote.
Motion carries unanimously with Commissioner Kennedy absent. Thank you. All right, that it on that. Okay, we're going to move into comments from uh commissioners. Before we do that, I'm going to read my
little thing here. Comments. Memorial Day ceremony for May, Thursday, May the 22nd, 11:00 through 12:00 at the Ocoy Lake Shore Center. It'll be air conditioned in there. Join us as we pay tribute to all the men and women who gave their lives while serving in the
United States Armed Forces. The guest speaker will be Shea Tali Bradley. That's a kind of a catchy name. A retired US Army Colonel. Refreshments will be served after the ceremony. Envision 2045 community outreach meeting
Wednesday, May the 28th, 6:00 p. p.m. through 8:00 p.m. Okcoy Lakeshore Center. A presentation of the draft 20-year comprehensive plan will take place at six o'clock, followed by questions and answers with staff at info
stations. Refreshments will be served. June events, Okcoy Community Market, Thursday, June the 5th, 5:00 p.m. through 900 p.m. Ooy Lake Shore Center. This month's market is focused
on superhero summer cookies and milk with a cop summer series. Story times will be held on Fridays through June the 6th and 27th, July the 11th and the 25th from 12:30 p.m. to 1:30 p.m. West Oaks
Library branch. Registration is required. Visit okcoy.org or the classes and events page on the Orange County Library System website to register. Okay, Commissioner Wilson. I think you covered everything except I
just I've taught me a lesson. I I know that you you've done that. Um I'm assuming the 28th that will be a notice meeting so we can attend the comp plan meeting. That will be Absolutely. Thank you. It will be properly posted. Thank
you. That's concern. Um other that we happy Memorial Day and we will see you on June 3rd would be our next meeting. Correct. Yes ma'am. That's it. Thank you. Commissioner Fner. No, I don't have
any comments. Commissioner Oliver. Uh just a few comments. Um I visited the backyard. Um it's the food truck. Uh food trucks. Uh, it's actually it's like a outdoor extravaganza of food trucks.
It's actually at uh 2214 West Road across from the Publix. It looks like a house with a bunch of parking spaces in front, but when you go around the back, it is amazing. So, well, no, no, no. They have hammocks and a lot of shade, but it butts right up
against the West Horns Trail. So, a lot of bicycles actually come off of the trail and they actually spend time eating, having food and drinks as well. So, they have not had a grand opening yet, and I was told that they're going to reach out to the city for their grand opening, and we will surely be there because the food
is tremendous. The food is amazing. Um, summer safety, uh, for our seniors. Um, I want to kind of focus on summer safety for the seniors. Uh, I have a few tips. Staying hydrated, drinking at least eight or more glasses of water per day.
Uh, it makes is is a promotion of healthy hydration. Know the side effects of your medication. Uh some medications have side effects such as uh drowsiness and uh sun sensitivity. Stay cool. Stay inside air conditioned spaces. Go
swimming if you can. Um wear light and loose fitting clothing. Uh also have emergency contacts with you. Uh one of the things that I keep in my near my phone is emergency contact card. So if something happens, I'm not responsive, you can get a uh emergency contact from
me. or even went high-tech. Uh you can get a dot card so if you have if a millennial finds you un unresponsible unresponsive they'll know how to use this so they can get to your emergency contacts. Um know the weather. So also look at the weather forecast. Plan your
days according to the weather. So those are just some summer safety tips for um our seniors. Um also high school graduation is May 30th. Uh a lot of the kids the seniors are already out of school so they're on the roads. So be be
safe. Uh be mindful of these uh uh a lot of inexperienced drivers of the kids. So just watch out for the kids and uh drive for them. So just keep that in mind as we're on our roadways. Uh, also one of the things I wanted to bring up was um we're going through a 100redy year uh
centennial in the city of Aoy and um we have a lot going on and I was listening to the comments at the uh u the uh um last event we had where we did the time capsule and uh we talked about how uh uh we got to this point and all the folks
that help us get to this point. One of the things I just want to bring up is we have uh folks that that are commissioners that have served on this on this this das here that are still in the community. I want to make sure as we move forward that we include them. We have like a uh there is a uh congressional resolution or
congressional proclamation that we'll be receiving. I think if you served on this board for five minutes or 50 years, you you played a part in getting us to where we are. So, I want to make sure they're included in this uh in this hundredyear centennial because they did play a part
uh in uh getting us to where we are today. And then um only one uh finally I had uh one last question and it was concerning the uh the cameras uh for the school zones. Will they be
operational when school's out? We answered that last time. He said no. No, I'm talking about when when we when we get to the summer we get to summer months there's no school. So there's they won't be operational. No sir commissioner they're not won't be
operational for schools out holidays or weekends. Okay perfect. So all I have left is my my um my quote if it goes if an egg is broken out from an outside force life ends. If broken inside with
inside force, life begins. Great things always begin from inside. That's all I got. Thank you, sir. Did I asked you already? Yeah, you already stole my thunder. So, yeah. Oh,
sorry about that. Um, talking about one of the things real quick. I just want to make a couple quick comments of code enforcement. We up here have to address the code enforcement issues in the city because I know I was and Craig I'm not going to
take your thunder but I was talking to you earlier and it was what the code enforcement owed to the city is what 11 million. We have 11.6 million in outstanding code leans. So uh we as a commission have got
to sit down and come up with some kind of remedy to addressing the issues with the code enforcement. One of one of the things is there's no responsibility if you own a home that they they just don't pay it till because till they try to
sell it. But that but there's other issues that go with the code enforcement we need we need to address. So I'd like to we work on that during the next few months. We're we're u planning to bring bring back um a series of recommendations with regard to the
outstanding leans that we have and go over what your options are and seek direction. And um as a reminder, we also were directed by the commission at the last meeting to come back with a presentation so so that we can identify
to you where the gaps are we think might need to be filled in with a code update to address some of the commission's comments at the last meeting about people that game the system. you know, they they are actively violating the
code and they know just when to to pull the cars in or move them or something like that um to avoid getting a citation. So, we'll we'll have some recommendations that as well as uh being
prepared to discuss the uh outstanding leans, code leans. Am I not right? In the commercial, you can foreclose on commercial. That's correct. But in in residential homes, you can't. If it's homestead, huh? If it's homestead, you can If it's homesteaded, that's what I'm saying. If it's a rental house,
somebody's renting and they don't make sure is a you can then forclose. But the problem is we've got places and and you you go to these places, you got semis parking around town, you got they no matter how many times you tell them no, they'll be right back at that place.
They're parking there. So, I mean, there's got to be a way to set a fine that'll stop that or they going to have to pay out a lot of money because they they're parking back again against the homeowners out there off Silver Star. Uh they're out in the parking in the mall. I don't know if that's legal either. Is
the semis parking in the mall now legal? They living there all weekend, you know, so I don't know if that's legal or not. But we got a problem with code enforcement in the city that we need not as much little things, but I mean big things where the people are doing things
we we've got to put put the quote to them and get them to stop. That'd be it. Everybody have a great Oh, we had the Asian fifth the fifth year in a row for the Asian u I forget what the title was, but Mr. Foyer was there. I was there Saturday.
that was they put on a great I call it a history show really. It's of all the countries that are here in the United States that's came over and got to be citizens and stuff like that. It was great. They had a lot they probably had close to a thousand people running around out there Saturday. They
did a great job. And when Commissioner Oliver made the comment about the um um what you call it bearing the bearing the news or what was that called? The Maguire House. Oh, about the uh uh the uh centennial when we talked about
talking time. Yeah. That was great. You I Is it still not in the capsule yet? They have it somewhere to look at. Make quick. I'm running out of time. We're getting some final items from OCPS, a yearbook and stuff like that. Then we will bury it and then the next
crew will come in and put on the landscaping and then the cap and the monument. All right. So the other the other thing was on May the 9th we had the uh 100year deal out the lake poured rain. Of course we hadn't had any rain but there's in in a month or two and it
come down buddy. I mean it was pouring but it was a great function. Our staff did a great job. They did a wonderful job putting that together and putting the things together we're doing. Also, July the 4th, we'll be down at the lake and we'll have the uh fireworks and uh
some refreshments and stuff going on and music at that, too. So, July the 4th, it'll be in the afternoon. I forget what time is. Do you know what the time is? Anybody? I don't have it with me, Mike. July the 4th will be uh 6:00 to 9. There
you go. 6:00 to 9. So, come out to that. It'll be more set up on McKe Street, but the fireworks will be on the over the lake, though. Okay, thank you very much everybody.