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Teresa >> here >> I am here Dr. Sasso Gina. >> Yes. >> Mayor Walker >> here. >> Uh Frank Weber >> here. >> Thank you. >> Okay. So, you want to do the
presentation first? >> You get started. Hi. >> Yes. Hi. >> Um I have a USB stick, so I'll just put that in the laptop here, I guess. Let's >> see. Um, I may just need to There's only one USB. >> Well,
>> take the mouse out and then I could just use the keypad. That's fine. >> Okay. Oh, >> can you see Tom? >> I can. Okay. Just want to Okay, perfect. So, um,
first of all, thank you everybody for choosing us as your vendor for phase one of the project. Um, we had presented to you back, um, I think it was late last year or earlier this year and we got to do your circulation desk and this furniture out here in the idea farm. So, thank you for choosing us and um, it's
been a pleasure working with, you know, Dawn and her staff have been terrific to work with. And I don't know if you've saw this at the last meeting. We had given Dawn some renderings before for the last meeting. Has everybody seen what we're calling what we were calling phase two of the project of what was included in that?
>> I think we only saw phase one if I recall. I don't know if we >> phase one was the circulation desk, the idea farm, and then some of the back office area. >> So phase two, what we had always talked about, what we've been working on for the past several months to present to you was the idea, you know, we're
thinking about the space obviously in bays. Between the shelving, you have different furniture bays. So, we were looking at the bay down the center where the reference desk is, as well as all of your reference computers and public computers. And then as we go along, you're going to see we're also looking at the teen area and the children's
room. So, the way, you know, Dawn had structured phase two was it was going to be all of these areas together in phase two. And then we also have line item pricing to share with you just to kind of show you what it would all cost and you could decide, you know, what the priorities are that you'd like to move
forward with. So, we're going to kind of present these designs to you. I don't know. Are these shared on the Zoom? >> Sorry. Can you just hit emit? >> Sure. >> Cuz on Yeah, you have to use >> Yep. >> My mouse doesn't work. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> And this is being shared on the >> It should. >> Or should I share it?
>> Yeah, please share it. >> Let's see if I Yeah, if I go into the Zoom. >> Thank you. >> Of course. Now Garrett can see it, too. Okay. So, while I'm here,
so this is using our 3D rendering software. And basically, we take your AutoCAD plan, which is your floor plan. So, all this red here, let me zoom in a little bit more. That's all your existing shelving. And um basically, we're looking at a new reference desk
and new computer tables and laptop tables in this area. And Shannon, first of all, I should introduce Shannon. Shannon Duncan Brown is our vice president of design. Shannon's an interior designer. She's the one who designed the circulation desk and everything that you see in here now. So,
we're obviously we're selling furniture on ESCJ contract, New Jersey state contract, but we're Shannon and her team are the ones who were doing all of this work with all of the furniture. So, for the reference desk, we basically took the design of your circulation desk, which has the rail and style look and
the quartz top that we know that you liked. And hopefully you're happy with the way it turned out on the circulation desk. So basically the reference desk is a larger version of that because you have three staff sitting there, but Shannon could tell you about all the specific requirements that were required
there for um all of the equipment and all of the patron services. There's a lot that happens at that reference desk and staff kind of wanted to, you know, keep it similar to the way it is now, but also make some improvements. But aesthetically the idea is the circulation desk is the anchor design
piece and then other mill work pieces or other desks throughout the space would follow that. So that's the view looking at the reference desk looking back. And Sh feel free to jump in at any time. >> Yeah, that's as you were walking into the space. >> This is from the side of it, right? >> So there's swing gates on the side to
keep people from going off. Here's where your copers were >> going to be. Um, this is the other side of it. Are these scanners, Shannon? >> Printers. >> Printers that are there. >> And that's on the back of the desk. And then you have these tables here that are going to be just for patrons that have
charging outlets in them. And then you have all of these computer tables. Now, libraries don't have as many computers as they used to. I think we counted when we were here. You had about 16, I believe it was. Um, so there was a
combination of computers as well as open spaces. Um, you have a lot of people in this library. I mean, we're here for all of these meetings and it is just packed. So, this gives people a lot of ways to work on computers, but also gives them extra spaces. Sometimes you'll have somebody with a caretaker with somebody
using a computer. So, it gives space for them as well to have some extra space. Um, but uh, and then we had some lounge seating along the back area to replace some of the soft seating. you have there now. So that's kind of the center bay.
That's probably, you know, reference and computers. That was that was what we originally referred to as phase two. And then, you know, as Dawn was looking, we started, you know, saying, "Okay, well, what about the teen area right now where you have some furniture that could
really be outdated?" So here, we made the teen area just like we're doing with a lot of the teen spaces. So there's curved shelving to kind of cordon off the area and then curved seating on the inside. These tables, you can see they're actually in
pieces. They can come apart and go together. So if kids are meeting in a group, they can meet around the round table. If they're tutoring, you could pull those tables apart and then you could do some tutoring there. There's a laptop bar with some charging outlets. And then there's there's a little gaming area. Now, that's something a lot of the
libraries are working with in the teening area. They're putting in gaming carts and they're doing video gaming. That's obviously something, you know, you need to decide, do you want that in the library, but we're seeing, you know, these programs just explode with the gaming that they're doing in the teen area. So, we don't have a This is actually a mobile gaming cart and just a
couple of lounge chairs. If gaming grew, you may need to find another space for it, but we put a little kind of gaming corner there in the teen space. And there's just another view of it. this curved shelving and seating everybody. That's like everybody's favorite thing when we install it. It
really um looks nice. Now, at the front, so the children's area is to the right here. If we're going down, the front of the fourth bay that you have there, we put in some tables. And then these are what's
called cabanas. It's kind of the modern version of the study carol where people can go and sit in, you know, private. They're sitting in a lounge chair. I can't remember. Did we have power in those? So, we did find power in the floor. So, the idea is could somebody can come in who's working from the library, a laptop. They don't have to go
to one of the group study rooms. They could just come and you could fit six individual people in there who are doing individual work. And they're cost effective. Um they're much more cost effective than putting in like glass study pots like some libraries are
doing. And you know, they're packed. I can't even take pictures of them when we go to our installations to photograph. We have to come in, you know, cuz the library opens and people run towards those. Everybody wants these individual private spaces these days. >> And each one has a desk mounted module to charge. So when they sit down, they
can charge their devices while they're working. >> Yeah, we're putting power USB and USBC now so people have all the different options that they would need. These are just a couple of display units and then just some some tables and chairs. Um,
and then we get into the kids' room, the fun part. So, Dawn really liked trees and wanted to make sure we bring trees into the space. And obviously that brings the budget up a little bit. Now, this is just a very preliminary design. We kind
of we in order to present you with a design and a budget, we made some assumptions in order for us to give, you know, you a sense of what we're budgeting. So all first of all, all of your existing shelving that you have in the plan, that's staying, right? It would be a big cost to replace steel shelving. We do a lot of libraries where
the steel shelving is in good shape, but then you could just dress up the end panels and make it look new, right? And then tie everything together. Nobody would know that the shelving is old. Shelving, shelving and service desks are always the most expensive part of refernishing a library space. But we kind of were putting these trees coming
off the columns, which help with acoustics. We had a new children's desk that we put in there. It doesn't have to be the same color as the reference desk and the circulation desk. It could be the same design and sometimes we'll do them purple or blue um you know to help
with the theme. But you could see we were reusing, you know, we didn't want to, you know, basically refernish the entire children's room, including the shelving. That would be a very expensive, very big project. But we we focused on the the furniture that Dawn and the staff think definitely needed to
be replaced. So you can see in here what we kind of popped up were new computer tables, new soft seating, some mobile shelving, obviously the desk, some new shelving in the center of the space. And I will go through and just show you some
more of these renderings. We do put these nooks in. The kids love nooks, you know, kind of climbing in them and sitting in them and reading them. So, we actually put we did include a couple of them in your existing stacks, too, where you would pop out some shelving and put some of those nooks in there. And again, that's
totally optional, a little playhouse with activity panels on it, a gaming table. So, I mean, really updating the kids' room to be bright, colorful, fun, and tie into the rest of the space. So those are the renderings and then
what we did was we paired that with so our 3D rendering software now has pricing associated with it. So we can basically pull all of this furniture that we've laid out in these spaces into a budget proposal that we then broke up by area. And again, this is just
furniture that we picked as placeholders. So you can kind of get a sense of what it would cost to do each one of these phases and then decide if you know anything that you'd like to do. So the reference area which included the reference desk and all of the furniture
going down the center that was 163,000. That's you know one of the big ticket items that whole center bay of the library. The teen area 43,000. The cabana area with the um study pods
in the front 31,000. The children's area will be the other big one. >> 228,000. >> Wow. >> And I mean, you have a huge children's room. If we had replaced all that shelving, it would have been like some of the children's rooms were doing where
it would have been a four or $500,000 just in the the children's room. Reusing all that shelving is a huge savings. And then prevailing wage delivery and installation, we just ballparked it at 105. So 572. And again, this is just a
budget based off what we presented in phase one so that you have a sense of what all of this might cost and you know can make decisions accordingly. So that's kind of just a quick overview and um we've gone through just you know
several revisions of this with you know Dawn and the staff over the years over the past year or so I would say definitely with an emphasis on the center area because phase one was always what the plan was and recently you know she had wanted us to share with you the
other phases to see what they might cost so that you have that information as well. So, that's a quick overview. >> I'm sure you have questions. >> These prices are good for how long? >> They're as good as until the state contract pricing goes up, which is
typically twice a year. Okay. There'll be there could be updates. >> So, this is current all current as of today. >> And you mentioned phase two. Is there a phase three? >> Phase three. Well, phase phase three from and correct me if I'm wrong. She was talking about some of the other
furniture throughout the library >> and staff >> and the staff rooms. >> The staff work rooms. Yes. >> Yeah. The staff back rooms. >> You mentioned that uh there's two times a year that the pricing might go up. Where are we in the time frame now for the first next? >> Um I would expect there could be one in
the the next in the you know late summer fall. I mean, we haven't had one in a while, and I'm sure it's only a matter of time before as pricing and inflation is going up and diesel costs are going up, we see how much it costs to ship furniture now. It hasn't hit the manufacturers yet. It could come
relatively soon, you know, >> hopefully your gas prices come down by >> gas, that would be nice. >> Yeah. The good news is we don't have tariffs. So, all of the product for the most part we have is all made in the US. these manufacturers, we don't deal with importing product because, you know, if
you're waiting you need replacement parts, you're waiting months and months for it. So, the shelving is made in Michigan, uh, made in Illinois. Most of the furniture is made in Michigan or North Carolina or California. It's all and you can see the quality from your circulation desk. You know, that's able
to be controlled, manufactured here in the US better, too. >> Does the kids room include the big room or is that going to be part of phase three? Phase. Phase three is just the staff. >> So then, so is that included? That big room that's
>> the meeting room large meeting room? >> No, that's not included. >> Not with the children, >> the public meeting room, you mean? >> So that would be part of phase three cuz I thought the phase >> probably phase three was never really defined in terms of what it was. >> Okay. You know, phase 2 was originally just going to be the reference desk and
then we had said, "Okay, phase two could include the reference desk area plus teen plus the private study area plus children's." So phase two got much bigger, you know. >> I'm sorry. I have another question. So for the for the teen area, I know you just gave ideas of what it could be, but
how many seating area is that really showing us? Is that really how many seats are in the teen area? >> Is that all that we're doing for the teen in that price? So, I mean, if let's see if you're going to fit 1 2 3 6 12
>> 13 14 15 16 17 18 19. It's like seating for 20 right now. It certainly could get bigger. >> What you have now? >> It is. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um, it would work. >> Yeah. >> Cuz right now the issue is we have a lot
of tutors and seniors and adults who like to sit there. So with this furniture, it's a little bit more teen friendly, >> right? It looks more defined and space now. >> Okay. >> And we talked about moving the booths
from teen to do you remember where Don was saying we would oh up to the side of the circulation desk where there would be like a cafe. >> Yes. >> Yeah. What's the maximum amount of children's program you have in that area on any one
day >> in the teen area or in the children's? >> Children's. >> Every day we probably have at least two to maybe four or five. And really it depends. Like today we had almost 90 90 families well 90 kids and families come
in just for the baby time. So >> it is a lot. And then they hang out in the kids section right after. Amazing how the library. >> So it is amazing. >> Our average numbers every day is like 800 and something people through the doors. >> It's everywhere. These libraries are I
mean packed. You know the look how many you got from Maong. You've been here. >> That's the biggest thing now. >> We've been here when they're playing. We've seen it in action. Yeah. >> Serious players. >> I don't know how to play. Oh, do you? >> Yeah. My mom will talk.
This is I mean it's very pretty. >> It is very pretty. >> Now to go back to the trees cuz that was interesting. Um so what exactly is is the makeup of that? Like what's the material on like you said that's like >> these were the TMC trees, right? >> They are. So they are wood wrapped.
>> So we're we're taking your columns that are already in the space. Okay. >> And they wrap them with wood. >> Okay. And then the canopy is a combination of a wood and then a a very tightly um condense it's like felt a recycled
material that is like felt and it abs it's acoustic has acoustic properties. So as the sound goes up and bounces around the ceiling it'll get a little deadened on within the acoustic >> and that's so nice because that place gets very loud. It gets loud and you have those tall ceilings and the sound
just goes up and jumps around. >> That was a great idea. >> I like it. >> Yeah, >> it looks a lot better like that. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> It's expensive. So, when you look at the proposal like that was like there was like 90 or $100,000 worth of trees. >> And I will say I kind I put six or eight
trees in there. >> You can get the same we can we can get the same visual. you know, walk in and you see three. If we just stagger them, I just kind of maxed it out to get the budget number in, but you can see the quantity and just pull that out. And
>> yeah, >> they really um command your attention when you walk into the space. It's really cool. >> Yeah. So, that kid's budget can come down, you know, quite a bit by >> What's the cost of one trick? >> Uh let's take a look.
>> I think it's like 11. >> Yeah, they're right. I'm thinking we could disgrace the trees. >> 11,000. >> 11,000 * 6. So 67,000. >> I like
the trees. >> And the potting shed also at the back. We put that in as a placeholder also. That also is an expense. Um they have a lot of Dawn always said she wanted a destination children's room and then
something for the kids to play in. No. Oh, that's the birdhouse. >> The potting shed. >> There's a lot of different choices. We just put the potting shed in as just a cute. >> So that is And then if you go down a little and you see the third one overbred >> with the little seat and the panels and
everything. So we maxed that out. The price that's in your proposal includes all of that. Or you can just get the plain padding. >> No, there's no point. >> Exactly. >> And these are activity panels and you choose them. You could change them out, but it's they're interactive play. We put those on end panels. We put them on
the walls and you can change them over time. >> It's great for the kids cuz I remember coming with my kids when they were we were always looking for the blocks and the different things. Just books. >> Yeah. The kids rooms are all about play now, right? So a lot of libraries you have to balance the collection size. You can't have as many books if you want all
of these other things. You have such a nice big open space. You really don't have to weed it all, right? >> You can replace some of the older furniture that you have with some of these newer things and not have to weed the collection. So, that's nice. >> What's the size of that? Just
>> the potting shed. >> Yeah. >> Uh 48x 48x 72 high. 90 in high over >> 90 at the beach. I know that. It's just amazing. >> So, how long would it take to install all this? >> Um to install everything, you know,
that's that's in all of these areas. Maybe >> um maybe a week, I would say. >> Wow. >> We have a much larger group than we used to. used to be a small
stupid community building >> just doing the circulation desk. I was here that day. We were probably 12 installers here and they got everything done. >> Pretty impressive. >> A day or two. Yeah, >> it goes a lot faster. >> That's amazing. That's amazing. >> You had children? >> No, in the adults.
>> Oh, the adults. I don't know. >> There's like 16 or 20 or something. It wasn't one. You could see there was Let's see. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 maybe it's we have drawing. >> We left some spaces open in between
some. >> And if you needed person sit next to somebody >> Mhm. >> or have a little study spot that doesn't have a computer on it or a laptop. >> Do you have anybody who films the process of these being installed?
>> You know, we haven't actually filmed it being installed. We have our photographers come and and shoot photos, but um we thought about actually doing a video, an installation video at some point. >> Be something interesting to show the kids. >> Yeah, especially, right? You see these giant tractor trailers pull up. I don't
know if anybody was here when we installed the circulation desk, but >> it's quite the operation. You know, there's a lift gate >> and um >> and you could still do it while we're open, right? We don't have to close. >> Correct. Yes. >> Yeah. If we could do the circulation desk, that was the most difficult. Yeah,
>> cuz you're right. We're working right there >> in the entry area. So, >> um but yes, we could do this and yeah. >> Mhm. >> I think when it's all done, we should do a presentation at the council meeting so
people are aware with the pictures and everything and >> Yeah, that would be really good >> for a ribbon cutting. I don't think you did that for the circulation desk or redesign >> ribbon cutting for the public to see all you know >> because that that might actually get
people even more interested to come to see how nice it is now. >> You got a lot of feedback I saw on social media from just the circulation desk that you posted. >> So I mean you got from residents like commenting like people love seeing you know these upgrades. >> Of course. >> Yeah.
>> What's the lifespan of these chairs and tables? >> So great question. So, one of the reasons library furniture is so expensive is because it's designed to last for decades. So, everything has either a 5year or 10year warranty on it. But, um, you know, the chairs I think
will probably have a 10y year or some of them have lifetime warranty components. The lounge chairs, I mean, this is the type of furniture that you would reupholster in 20 years, right? You're not going to have to >> replace it. So, um, >> somebody else would >> test chairs like this every once in a
while. filling your dream. >> But every manufacturer has their own warranty. But most of them are 5 years or 10 years and then lifetime on some. >> But with this type of, you know, product, typically if something's going to go wrong, it's right at the beginning when you're it's damaged or something
arrived like that. You may every once in a while a wheel, somebody may break a wheel and then we just chip a new caster and or have an installer put it on. Very nice. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you everybody.
>> Thank you for your time. >> Thanks for your time. >> Of course. >> And your creativity. >> Appreciate it. >> It's great these computer systems now you can see everyone else. >> It is. It makes it much easier, doesn't it? >> Exactly. >> I I came to the party late. What other
libraries have you done in the area? I see you're in >> Manel and >> we do a lot in um Ocean County branches. Um just the past couple years we did um Milbour, uh Union, Madison, Maplewood, Trenton. So we do work all over the state.
>> You do other work besides libraries? >> Not really. This is our main business. Yeah, it's a special. So we do projects from New England all the way down through New Jersey. So >> Okay. >> But I live in Manalapin, so this is one of our closest. Yes. Yes.
>> We have a we have an old old bridge resident who is our >> Yes. Jody from our office lives in Old >> Thank you for your time. >> Have a great night. >> Have a good night. >> Thank you. >> He goes to that library and he says it's absolutely gorgeous.
>> Is it? He said it's like walking into like something you see in >> Manhatt res my boss Madison and he he takes his grandchildren there. Two four year old boys and they love it.
>> Very nice. >> All right. You want to go to executive session? >> No, we're going to bump that to the end. >> Okay. >> Let's uh >> All right. >> Do the math together. >> All right. So then we'll get the approval of the minute meetings of May 3rd.
>> I'll make a motion. >> We doing them together, you said? >> Yes. >> A and B. >> I'll make a motion for A and B. >> Roco made the motion. >> Second. >> Um, Rocco. >> Yes. >> Tom, >> yes. >> Teresa, >> yes. >> I am a yes. Gina,
>> yes. >> Mayor Walker, >> yes. Right. >> Understand? >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Um personnel, >> we have anything. >> We don't have anything this.
>> No. Well, yes, we did. I wasn't at the last meeting, but we didn't we do some interviews on hired, right? I think >> I wasn't at the last meeting, but we I just want to go over what we did and what the movement was. So, we took Melissa,
>> right? >> Oh, that opened up a spot and that's a part-time position. >> Yes. And then the passport is a part-time position and we filled that one. >> And we filled that now. So, but what but who didn't we make another movement or we hired from?
>> So, we also had a Paige who then went cuz somebody retired from the technical processing positions and she went over there. >> Okay. So, now we have a page position. >> Right. Right. But we're we haven't talked about
we have a page position. Okay. All right. Finance. Uh, can I get a motion for the uh the listing $311,4725 discussion? >> Move the motion. Second. >> I'll make the motion. Okay. Second.
Second. Discussion. Um I you know again I know I asked the question at the last meeting because we haven't seen the treasurer who reviews the bill lists and puts that forward to us who who's making sure that we're not
overexpending in each account that kind of >> I I think it would be the finance committee for finance and I know Maria um the difference the only difference that Maria consumed We're not going to talk, but I'm not on
the finance committee. So, I'm assuming that Yeah. I don't know who's on our finance committee. You only have a finance. >> I think myself and >> you and Tom. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, have you been >> historically, for example, if you look down on furnishings here for the 2026 budget,
it's $439,000. Um, at this point, you spent nothing on it basically. So >> that's and it's in the capital improvement. So I I'm assuming that's kosher. >> I don't even know. This came up at the meeting last time.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Cuz I asked the same question. >> And what was the answer giving? >> No. No. Basically, um, Dawn said, you know, we we're have all that money budgeted because of these phase one, phase two, and phase three things that
are going to happen. One of the things that we might want to consider having particularly on the capital items, a thing that's in the capital accounts now is expected to be at by the state is expected to be at between three or five
years. I'm not sure. I have it up. So toward that end as we're moving peacemail items, I'm assuming all the furniture in this project 163,000 would come out of this when we met the commitment. So um I think there should
be a more comprehensive listing of what's involved in this 439 just to have it as something to refer to so you know where at least where you're going. >> It may just be an estimate because >> yeah what we have here is 572. So yeah,
it would cover most if not all. >> But I think that may be in the actual capital plan that Don has. >> It is. >> Yeah. >> All right. So can I get a read motion to vote on the finance? >> Sure. Tom, >> yes.
>> Teresa, >> yes. >> Yes. Gina, >> yes. >> Mayor Walker, >> yes. >> Frank, >> yes. and uh Roco. >> Yes. >> Thank you. New business the long closure salt water day.
So every year since we've been moved into the Amboy Bank, we've closed for saltwater day just because of the sheer amount of people go to it. They would want to use our bathrooms and we we even had just a horrible episode yesterday with our bathrooms. So, we always end up
closing because the plumbing is old. So, I just want to get an approval from the board >> to close it. >> But they but they have adequate they put uh parties outside, right? >> Yeah. And there's bathrooms there, too. >> Yeah.
>> But I guess people that live I don't know. >> Yeah. >> So close. >> Maybe they don't want to go in those bathrooms. They probably do the Dunkin Donuts as well. They probably >> Yeah. deal with it. >> We cut the time down on saltwater day a
little now to >> 12 to one. >> I think >> I wish >> we used to go down for the shade tree commission used to go there. We couldn't nobody would even take the seedlings that we had there. So we stopped doing
>> it was too long you know most people come out at night you know. All right. >> I have to actually get special permission because I'm the municipal lines and they serve alcohol. >> So actually get permission so it's not even worth it. >> It's not worth going through the whole I tried it once and then it's a little
frustrating. You see people coming up to you. >> Yeah. >> You're like well buy house wave. >> So that's an administrative function but trustees anyone have objection to closing on salt water? >> No. >> Besides the fact that the library has been having a lot of air conditioning
issues. Yeah. >> What's today? >> Really? >> Yeah. >> I have something to add to new business. >> Okay. >> Uh I spoke with Dr. Sasso a few days ago. >> Okay. >> Um we're This is very uh I don't know,
theoretical. I don't know if that's the right term for it, but uh Dr. Sasso and I are looking for ways that we want to the school district to celebrate the 250th uh anniversary of the American Revolution. Uh one of the ideas Dr. Sasso had was the planting of liberty trees at around the schools around the
district. Um his what he was envisioning he's again he's not exactly sure yet. He's thinking about it how but he can get his he he can definitely through his contacts be able to get the trees. >> We can get the trees. >> He's getting cherry trees. >> Yeah. And that's what that's what he was wanting to know if we would like to get
involved in some way. What he hasn't envisioned is um us planting a tree in each one of the buildings around the district. Okay. Uh with maybe a commemorative plaque um maybe recognizing something specific music to my ear because we are trying to love it.
>> We we are I'm the chairperson of the shade tree commission by the fault. It's like the post can't get out. >> Okay. >> Um >> and Gary Laval of the conservation, he has been dying to do something. >> All right. I I will definitely have you get in touch with Dr. Sasso, but I think
he wants to make it more of a joint venture between >> steal it and we could put in a township property. >> Listen, uh you can call Dr. Sass. I'm sure he's not going to say no, but uh making it something maybe bigger than just the school district. Uh he was originally thinking maybe a joint venture between both the public library
and the school district. >> It would be good advertising for us to do it together. This is something that we can go around the district. Um, and you know, when we put these trees in, uh, we could have the students there, we could have the members of the board there, >> you know, something that would really just kind of like, you know, advertise
for us and kind of publicly state to the town, this is this is us working together. >> I think that too. >> Okay. >> All right. I I will talk to Dr. Sasso tomorrow. >> I don't want if Dr. Sassa would want. So, I was going to bring this up later.
Um we are actually we came up with this idea to do a 250th and plus it's also the 50th ann. So we wanted to do an oral history project here and then also take it and create it into a book. We were going to work on it this summer but if Dr. Sessa
wants to get involved we can also have some students or maybe a grade and we could do like an adult one and then >> Oh, you're also talking to the social studies supervisor. >> Oh there you go. >> So yeah, that's what we're doing. Um we're doing we're no we're doing it with this idea and we have because uh it's
already um I've had the uh high school the social studies honor society >> they want to get involved in do doing something specific. So, I will reach out. I will talk to the um the head of the social studies department, you know, the honor society. We'll get in touch
before we before we end the school. >> Yeah. Because we were going to actually partner with Ro and get stuff done in the township and get teen volunteers this summer to go to the senior center and get their memories. So, it's actually called tell us your story and I'll give this to you but it's like well
we're also taking like art like pictures anything like a memory of old bridge to put into a book into our local history section so you can take this so you would love to right we were going to have already reached out to them there's already been
contact pick >> so we're getting a lot of but again I think this would be a nice thing for us jointly together >> so I'll alter cuz right now we have a deadline of Labor Day, but I can always make it, you know, we haven't put this out to anybody yet.
>> So, we can always make the fire department because we we're celebrating our 100th year. I'm ladies auxiliary. We're celebrating our hundth year and we have pictures and all all kinds of stuff that we did at the installation. And I'm sure we could give you some of that stuff.
>> Yeah, that would be great. >> I'll be around for a lot of days in the summer. So >> yeah, just give me a call and we can like sit down and talk. >> I'll talk to you before school. That's out next week. >> Okay. >> Oo, this would be a unique thing for and you know, a one time unique thing for your competitive students to put on
their resumes for college. >> Well, that's part of the reason why they're reaching out to only for that reason. They're not, you know, they >> jump at the opportunity. >> There's a lot of interest on our end in terms of the honor societies. Right. >> So, we we definitely want to do
something to commemorate the 250. >> We figured, you know, it would be nice to have like maybe kids art show like in the back cuz who doesn't love a kindergartener's drawing of America? >> Well, you know, we're having our 250th anniversary and we're in with this work with the schools and the uh historical
society. That's going to be July 18th. We have a rain day for July 19th over here at Catrol Farm. Then at night, we're not announcing it yet because we're waiting to get the rest of our sponsors. We're going to have um drone show at Manino at night and then we're we're going to separate the celebration
of America's 50th for day. We figured what better time than day. So we're going to try to have something special >> at day to celebrate the >> and the school district is working alongside it >> and also it's going to be the 25th
anniversary of 911. So we have to think about that too. We want to make that anybody we're going all around town thinking for we want to have ideas for a because we usually have a wonderful ceremony here. We want to make it extra special this year. >> Okay. >> You know because I'm have started having
the um victim's family speak. So I want to continue on with that. >> So if anybody could come up with a good great idea something we could have appreciate it. Try to work with this. >> Definitely. We have so many people here who would brainstorm ideas. So >> you should definitely do something, you
know, with the memorial that we have, you know, out in the library uh area. >> Oh yeah, we have one every Marshall machine. >> Yeah. >> There was an artwork done by the seniors in high school um in 2001 um you know
when um and it's and it's out just you know on one side of the one side of the library. It's it's in a little bit of a state of disrepair, but uh >> my son was one of them. Okay. Kevin Lass as well. >> Yeah. >> And um they uh they put together, you
know, like a an artwork that commemorated the event. >> Well, their validictorian comes every year to this ceremony >> because she would she's a victim's daughter. >> Yeah. Who was her name? >> Melissa. >> Melissa Schulz. >> Melissa Schul.
>> Oh, yes. Yes. They come every year. So if anybody could think of we're trying to make something special, you know, so >> really have a nice So one of the ladies her husband uh died in 911 um Joanne Howard and she wants to work with the school. So maybe I'll get in touch with you. She wants to she wants the schools
to do something special this year because her husband died and you know >> yeah a lot of our um particularly our grade nine because we have we created the civics honors course and it's it's a kind of course I don't want to get too far into the weeds on this but it's one of my things I'm very proud of. We teach eighth grade civics and students who are
looking into that, you know, track where they're going to study, you know, maybe law or government and politics. Uh, the civics course goes a little bit deeper into the weeds where they learn just how government works and functions on the eighth grade level. In the ninth grade, they see how it works out in action. And
it's very it's more thematic. And our first first thing that we look at is, you know, how liberty versus, you know, the ideas of liberty versus um protection or security. And that's why it fits perfectly with what's going on 911. So we do a lot of things on 911 at
the grade nine center at the beginning of the school year. So something we may want contact information and then maybe you can get in touch with her because she really wants the schools involved this year for the 25th. >> Okay. What would be nice to do with um 911 because so many young people
>> they don't know they weren't alive >> they don't feel it's like us were hard >> before it was it was funny but before before we had before co hit we had a trip every year the grade nine students went every year to >> to the museum and everything to the site to ground zero
>> but it was >> it was a tough time >> but it was so but our we have a we have a good staff at the high school particularly works on a lot of the 911 commemorations. >> Same as you know there are survivors of the Holocaust who want us all to
remember. I wasn't around but you know the way we perpetuate that. >> We still we're still working on we still do those things too. We do some in the elementaryaries too if >> we have Alex Yakovich that worked at the township that's the violinist. He does
um a really wonderful memorial to um the Holocaust, the children of the Holocaust, and he would come into the schools in a heartbeat. >> The the boards and story uh boards of it are just phenomenal music and it's >> really educational. >> We're always looking for new ideas.
>> I will forward him to you because he's gets grants from the county doing it. >> I think also um Girl Scouts definitely Boy Scouts all should be involved in all these activities. They're always she was at the event on Monday. We could probably even use some Boy Scouts that are looking to um get their Eagle Scout
to do different projects here. Like, you know, you said, Tom, that the uh it needed repair. Maybe you could get them to build something, you know, they're always looking because you could tell Matt Mccurio because they usually contact him on a project. >> Um what's his name? Mike Donley. He's
with the Boy Scouts. >> And then I have a guy on my shade tree commission, Sean. He's also on the scout. >> Yes. If we have any ideas of things, we could always give it to the Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts cuz now the Girl Scouts are big now. >> They're very big. Yeah. >> And the leader, the head, >> she's big. Yes. She comes to everything.
>> Everything I know they want involved with. >> I had just two other items though. Uh, one is old business. I know at last month's meeting there was going to be a roof discussion at this month's meeting. So, we just a future agenda. We should put it roof discussion.
We had gotten all the pictures and all, but there were so few of us, we really didn't discuss. >> So, we did I don't know what happened at last month's meeting. Um, we did recently, maybe like 3 weeks ago, we had a really bad leak in our large meeting
room closet and it destroyed some of our records that we keep. >> Yes. >> So, we did get the roofers in. >> The good thing is there's a 20ear warranty on the roof. >> Okay. >> We're only in year I think eight. But they apparently they nobody has
looked on the roof to unclog it. So all the drainage was all clogged with debris. They were up there for hours. I saw some guy with a shovel just with a snow shovel just shoveling it off the roof. It was there was a lot of debris on that roof. >> So we did talk about kind of having
people come in >> quarterly maintenance so it doesn't happen again. >> It should be done twice. >> There should be periodic maintenance obviously. We have nothing. >> You're doing all this stuff in this library. >> The roof is very important. >> Very now that we have a facility
manager, maybe he could take when >> Yeah. >> the architect was involved in constructing this library. Uh he was a very hot favorite in the state at that time. He did a number of them with similar types. They all started to fail.
>> Uh there was a class action suit filed. Now, I don't know how it wound up here, but in other towns, you'd have to go back into the records and find out who else was in that lawsuit. >> Okay? >> And then hopefully reach out for any of them and find somebody who knows how to
fix it, >> right? >> I know it's a flat roof. It >> is the worst. >> Even I know you need a little >> bit of an angle. I don't know anything. Well, what they do is they they put flashing on the end because I have a lot of buildings that have flat roofs and
they put like this rubber flashing and they make these like >> they call them weepholes, but they're really not wee poles and they put them on the building and so the water drains. So they put this rubber matting over and the water goes this way and then goes out and just goes out the side.
>> Yeah. So that's probably about four buildings in that. >> So we also worked with Casey at DPW cuz you know the sophets around it. So those are going to be replaced >> too. So everything is like a work in progress right now. >> I'm still trying to kind of catch up on
what >> Yeah. Is Vincent working with you? >> Vincent. So yeah. So Vincent, our um facilities manager has been great, you know. So he has um a lot of paper trails and he's told me the actually that was the first thing I did the first day last
Monday. I sat with Vincent because there's so many facility projects going on and I really wanted to make sure that I was right. So >> um the second question and this is something for long range planning um
parking and not only when you have 90 children in the building but I've been here at 9:15 in the morning and more than half of the library parking is already taken. So, I don't know if they are uh employees. I don't I don't know
who is parking, but we have it. It's full like 9:15. So, I don't know where where municipal employees. >> I don't think anybody with buses come in, but um I I drop off books, you know, and um
>> 9 9 to 9 and half the spots are gone. >> I could say because I come in for 8:30. I always go in the afternoon. which just literally there's like >> the first part by parks and rec building is employees. The rest is library patrons during the day unless there's pickle ball people.
>> We don't open till play. >> Yeah. No, but I'm saying I come at 8:30. The only spot taken are the front. So, anybody coming in afterwards would be coming here. >> Yeah. But what she's trying to say is if if at 9:15 it's filled up, they can't be coming here. >> Yeah. So the employees all pretty much
park in the tennis corner in there. >> It could also be the court people on Tuesdays. >> So I'm not sure. I haven't >> then we should really have signage, but this is not for it's because the building department doesn't really get that many people in there.
>> No, that's all to the side. But what I'm saying is at 9:15 at that time I don't see a lot only by pickle ball. >> If they're doing tennis or pickle ball, sometimes they park over >> in terms of long range though. Pickle ball is still going to be a busy operation. Tennis, I mean all sorts.
>> Most of them park on the side, >> but maybe we need some sort of signage to say this is library parking only. >> Maybe that's what needs to be done. I mean, if that's because the whole idea is we're having as many people as she's saying coming into the library. Where
are they parking? You know, I mean >> I don't know if there's land to expand parking. I mean, if we're going to be with all these programs, I mean, we really have to think about program. Forget when you have a program. Like, if you've gone for a concert, forget it. You know, >> truthfully, a lot of those spaces are
taken by people that are in the library. >> There's just a lot of people in the library. >> They're not in here at 8:30. >> They're not in here at 8:30. >> They're not crowded at 8:30. That's what I'm trying to say. I will tell you at 8:30. There's nobody there. >> I got here one day at 9:30. Okay. And there's a line of people out waiting to
get in at 10:00. the shop. >> Yeah, I'll take a picture tomorrow morning when I come in. You'll see that it's really empty. It really is empty at 8:30. >> I I don't think it's commuter parking then because >> I don't I don't think so. >> Not that many people take the bus here.
>> I didn't know if employees in other offices. >> It would be too. And then we have a cell phone parking lot where I think there's two buses that go there. Are there two buses that go there? Does one go to the city Manhattan? No. I'm not sure. I don't think so.
>> I thought it's the one that goes up Route 18. I thought >> that's the only one I only >> And that's a heck of a ride. >> It's a long way. >> That's why I have one building to take me forever to get there. >> Um Okay. All right. Um direct report.
Okay. So, we spoke about the 250th celebration. We all also because we're not leaving Lawrence Harbor out. Lawrence Harbor has something going on one day. It's on July 2nd. It's kind of like an all day drop in because of, you know, the size of the bank. You can't
really fit a lot of people in there, but we do have something for like every single >> place. A cute flyer. >> Isn't it adorable? Um, I talked about the roof. So, we are doing a fire drill. We're working with Frank Sparenza
Township to actually get one done this month. We just haven't pinpointed a date, but we are working on it. Uh the other thing is we need do we want to talk about the cleaning contract now? >> Yes. I um um I wasn't here last meeting
and I don't recall seeing a clean contract from Dawn for the Rwanda used the township cleaning people. And so what happened was >> Dawn I think thought that the cleaning contract ended later than she
said. Um, it actually ends on June 30th. The township needed to know, I got an email on Monday saying the township needs to know by the closing of today if the library is going with the same contract with the township.
I asked them to at least cuz I spoke to Gina, we couldn't give a day. We couldn't say yes or no. We needed a board vote. So, they did give me till tomorrow morning >> because they have to make that contract. the the price hasn't gone up. It's the same, >> right?
>> So, we just need to vote >> and and and I'm sure we all know. Well, I know I know I know you know it. This library is not getting clean. >> We They do a good job at home. >> Yes. So, I I mean I because the cleaning company right now and if I'm not
mistaken, when we spoke to Dawn, they would be willing to do overnight cleaning. >> Okay. Well, that's good. >> All in now because that that's what really needs to be done. >> That was the issue. Yeah. Okay. >> You can't clean the library properly during the day, right? >> I mean, >> you're going to walk over people trying
to clean the place. >> Yeah. You can't clean the bathrooms properly. Nothing. >> No. People got mad when you're back. >> But I we got five quotes at the last meeting from um Right. >> I had given I gave her um a few places to contact for cleaning, but I don't
recall seeing the contracts. >> She gave us um you know, I have to this part. um she gave us five quotes >> pointed out Yep. people ask me and um the current contract was 4700 and they
figured out how many hours it was 45 hours but she was suggesting more effective hours Monday Wednesday and Friday full overnight Monday through Sunday 2 to 5 and then there were uh 1 2 3 4 5 six contracts six uh bids that she
received um none of which you know she doesn't have a recommendation on them but um uh you you know, they range from, you know, 550,800 to 20,000. So, >> wow.
>> It it depends what you're getting. I mean, if you're getting overnight cleaning, you're going to pay the overnight differential, >> right? >> So, but I I just know that the library now is just not getting cleaned properly. >> No. So what we would have to do
for the timetable that we have and I wasn't privy to any of that information. So I think we would have you know whatever we go with but then we can also have a separate contract a quarterly or you know half every half year. Um drain
cleaning you know like high dusting. See, the cleaning company wouldn't clean the >> Well, not the drains, the high dusting, you know, the actual deep cleaning. >> You could probably right now, like I have a cleaning contract with with with uh with one of my high-rise buildings and then for my community building. And
what they do is they do uh you know, three times cleaning and then every quarter they do a deep cleaning. I don't know. >> Does the townships clean us? >> Do they do they do a deep clean? >> No. No. >> Yeah. Now Vincent, you Vincent had also
given us for air duct cleaning, high dusting, counter upgrade, power washing and window. >> Did you send this in our packet or did Dawn distribute that last month? >> That was last month. >> I think
agenda packs for the director. The air delivering should be done by the HF. >> That's that should be one in the same >> and it's not because of the clean because contract. So
we wanted an HVAC. >> We don't want so the the HVAC cleaning should be separate. The the high dusting and the deep clean should all be also some Yeah. I don't know if I don't know if the township company does have offers
that like What kind of a company are they? >> No, they just do like basic desk. >> No, I know. But but do they offer? >> I know I do, too. >> But do they do that? Do they do they do window cleaning? Do they >> That's not part of the bit. >> No, no, no, but I'm saying their bid.
>> What's the name of the company that does the town? >> I have never seen our windows clean. >> Never. >> No, but what's the name of the company? >> I don't know the name. >> The cleaning company. >> I don't know. I just know the >> It's going to be whatever their bid is. Their bid's not for windows or anything like that. Well, we that that could be an allocart. I mean like everything I
mean I like I do I have my cleaning people do the picture area just for the summer. So that's an allocart. So I just put that on for the season. They do a deep clean >> before we open the pool the bathrooms and the office that are out there and then they do an end season clean so that
it's cleaned closed up and we shut it down and it's good for the year. >> Personally I don't think that they're equipped to handle the windows that we have here for sure. >> Well they might have a division. Well, then we'll have to get I mean there's there's several companies out there. There's a company by the name of Fish that's very good. I use them for my building.
>> Um but >> yeah, if you want to take this home, I um printed out the contract that they sent me. I know like it doesn't really say much about the library on it though. >> Oh, okay. >> But I do have the old
>> Okay. But this is this is the township. >> Yeah. Right. So because >> just to let you know you paid 18,000. >> Yeah. So that's what they sent me because we didn't give them a yes >> yet. They didn't give me they didn't write up a contract. >> Well, the company that we have
>> Yeah. >> Um >> so the recommendation is to go with the company that cleans the township office. >> It it makes sense. I mean what's the cost of what's the cost? I mean they do a good job. for us. >> I mean, compared to the other company we
had before that right now, the people who clean the township also cleans this building. It's the same company. >> It's the same people. I mean, I if you we have to do other cleaning. >> Yeah, but wait. It can't it can't be the same company because the people that
were cleaning Don told me it was not the No, it's the same company. >> It's the same company. He just brings different people cuz she asked for different people. >> Cuz the people we have are good. >> Yeah. They're very good. >> We have Cindy and Pat. When I brought my plumber here to look at the bathrooms because they were I was getting complaints left and right. They were
putting fabuloso and that's it. Just throwing fabuloso down and one of the drains they were putting fab. You're not supposed to do that. >> No, you have to check into that. I don't they clean. Okay. Right down all. >> No, I I know they do the building department. They I asked them. They're very happy with them. So, I don't know
what happened. >> They do basic stuff. >> They don't vacuum. They don't dust. Well, >> so we do have it where, you know, the good thing is the facilities manager has been so good at vacuuming and cleaning all the study rooms. >> I know, but so has um you know, so we're
doing as the best we can with the cleaners right now. >> But if you ask them to vacuum, they have to vacuum. >> They do. >> Yeah. So we do have um but I have to ask. >> Oh, really? Teresa, do you have do you have the the other contracts that Dorne offered? Because maybe we should look at
them all now. Well, they weren't copies of contracts or big >> they do vacuum um the morning cleaner vacuums every morning. He does the lobby in front of the circ desk and he'll do like as much as vacuuming as he can do. >> But they don't do before they open.
>> They they not that I know of. That's what they don't do. And that's what we're lacking overnight clean, >> right? Because you can't really clean this library during the day. Too many people. >> Yeah. Not thorough. >> No, not yet. This is what was what we had from last month. But I'd like to
have copies before we $45. >> So, um, mayor um daddy So well >> yeah I've known you for like 30 years. >> Um listen um the contract that you have
Dawn talked about the possibility of going you know into the municipal contract and uh and taking it. Are you getting more done than the library was getting done from these people? Is that possible? >> I I don't we only get like a basic they
just really vacuum and clean the garbage and and she does clean the bathroom. She wipes the holes. >> They have the two people when they come, >> right? And this is what they do exactly um what they're supposed to do daily, weekly. So, we do have a schedule.
>> I assume they're following it. >> Yeah. >> Oh, they're following it here. I >> I was here several times. >> So, maybe you have to stay on top. >> If you ask any of the residents before we redid the bathrooms, okay, >> they will tell you that it's all disgusting. >> No, they clean our bathrooms. How about you? They clean because I think at a
certain point there was a little bit of a turnover in people that was working for that company that would come here. So there were days where we sometimes wouldn't have somebody we would they would that company tried their hardest but you know people would get sick
>> and things would happen family emergencies but they did do their best um to stay on this schedule. But now that we have a facilities manager, he has actually sat down with the owner of that company. >> Oh, that's good. >> And has gone over.
>> We have to sit down and talk. >> Yeah. Maybe just tell. >> Yeah. So that's really not a good job. >> So ever since Vincent has started, he's been very on top of making sure they're following this. If there's an issue, we'll contact Peter. >> So it has been it's a lot different than
it was a few months ago. I I can tell you right now, shoot master, I use them for my um kitchen and bathroom vents in one of my buildings. Um but again, I I don't I would absolutely use our HVAC company to clean our vents. I mean,
that's that that could be a a contract with everything, right? So that's all my buildings are done by the HVAC guy. >> Um Shoot Master is very good though. >> I don't know any of these other than fish for the windows, which is what I want. They do an excellent job. They do
it twice a year. They do >> Yeah, we can always just get them in, you know. >> So, I those are the only names on here that I'm even remotely I don't know any of these other companies here, but and the camera upgrade. I know we've talked about the price is going from
3500 to 15,000 which is just a $3,500 guys didn't charge 15,000. >> So, we have to really see what these contract what these estimates came in for. Well, >> that puts us in kind of a position here.
If the thing is expiring on June 30th, >> what's the proposed extensions that go? >> Two two years. >> So, if we go with them, it's for two years. >> I don't contract. >> Yeah. Cuz that's what the town you're
not happy with them. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, the township a lot of contract but a lot of contracts have like a 90day out, >> right? We haven't seen >> Yeah. So I I don't know the contract. Do we even have a contract? >> No, they didn't. >> Well, no. Wait, what am I saying? >> They gave me They gave me contract.
>> It should be the same thing. >> The question is whether >> whether we could separately >> get out. If we join the town, do we have to all stay or all go? >> Yeah. But but the town's contract isn't is is to be a separate contract or a
separate building. >> I would think it'd be separate. So they actually have us on that contract listed listed on that one. >> Yeah. >> So they have us as a building >> service. A shared service.
>> Yeah. It's a shared service. So we have always shared these items. I know maybe 15 years ago when we had our own custodian on staff. We had a custodian. >> Oh yeah. >> This should have been this should have been months ago. But we did have several custodians on
staff with a head custodian. >> Right. Right. That's what I was told because you're right at another company to come in >> maybe once or twice. >> Well, I mean, we have a facilities
manager now. So if Vincent >> stays on top of >> stays on top, >> that's going to have to be part of his job. >> It should be part of I mean I'm happy with the clean they don't compared to the other company. >> Oh no. The other company was horrible. >> They're very good. The cleaners
themselves are very good. They're very conscientious. If you ask them to do something they haven't done it, they will. But I just think the issue was always the products that they had, right? >> So fabuloso was because that's what they were given to you. because it's cheap, >> right? Cuz it's cheap. So, it falls into that price point.
>> But I also understood that there was the supervisor or the director was rarely on site to check what they were doing. The people who came in in the evening or during the day, they did they were there. They were nice. You could talk to them, but the supervisor rarely checked
what what they kind of see him by us. I mean, we could always ask him to stop. They're not doing but they were not doing overnight cleaning. >> There's right over something. You want overnight cleaning do overnight then you
have to go with something else. >> It's not Yeah, we need over cleaning. You cannot >> unless you want to do a supplemental overnight every once a week or whatever you need to do. >> No, I'm saying. >> Yeah, but then we have two. Well, do you have somebody here that will do
overnight and and um >> I think on those sheets on on this list is something >> kind of last minute for us to know. >> That was the only issue when they called me on Monday. They were like, "Can you give me an answer today?" I was like, "No."
>> And then I don't know what this means. >> Would it be possible to get an overnight cleaner once a while? Okay. So, it's PJ. Yeah. That's the current. And I guess the cost was going to be it's $4,700 a month. $4,700 a month to clean this library.
>> What >> is it just for here? >> That's not every day. >> I'm going to come clean. >> No, this No, this is this is the township. Good.
>> So, it's 47. So, he wants $4,700 a month. And then for more effective cleaning more effective which is almost double the amount and that would be a full overnight clean. He wants eight. My son is $200. Right.
>> Right. >> That's a bit much. I think $100,000 >> for the year. >> For the year. >> That's with overnight cleaning. Oh, that's with the overnight. That's with overnight. >> I'll take half. I'll clean. >> Yeah. Really? I'll start a business. 50,000 to clean. I I think I I mean I
heard one often enough say that we really >> Yeah, there are other people. Maybe it doesn't need to be twice a week by little you know maybe some supplemental conduct for someone else that might be the best even once every >> So to be honest with you right now
besides surf bro or ambulance chases I would never use that. This is building stores, >> right? And they're and but they're all of them are coming in around the same price as the current >> but we don't know how well they do. So at least we know what we have.
>> Yeah. But we have to let them know today. >> No, I know. But I'm saying we know what we have now. We don't know what these people can do, the new people. So >> Well, what you what you could do because of this time crunch and this we should not have gotten to this time crunch, >> but we did and here we are. So, looking
forward, you could enter this two-year contract. We could get into the possibility of paying separately for supplemental overnight, twice a month, whatever it ends up being. But the first step could be with the better oversight with them doing a better job now, >> right?
>> See how it goes. It is a two-year contract. It is for the township and this building specifically. But on the second page of the second document, you also have the opportunity if there's two unsatisfactory reports that you confer with them about within a 60-day period, you can get out.
>> Right? So there's a 60-day. So obviously >> a strike doesn't do anything, but the threat of a strike is great. So after they screw it up the first time, if they do, >> we'll have a nice scary meeting and we'll see if we can get better service from them. And then if you want to do overnight in addition >> Yeah.
>> So here's what he's saying. So the so it's and I'll pass this around but from what I'm reading here it's that so the suggested changes what Dawn was requesting is um the hours here this was the suggested hours which would come to 4700 a month but for the more effective
cleaning they were suggesting Monday Wednesday full overnight cleaning um and then Monday through Sunday for two to five porter service I don't think we need the porter service if they do their job we don't need a porter service and Do we have a part-time custodial person?
Yes. So then we don't need the porter service cuz we don't want to lose our custodian. >> What is a porter service? >> It's like a groundskeeper basically. That's I I have porters at my buildings. They pick up >> but that we have a custodian for that. So we don't need this. So that would at
least bring that would bring the 8,200 down. So I guess what we have to do is just call up and say we don't need >> the porter service. How many days you need cleaning at night? >> I I think you need the Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I think that's good. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. >> All the night. Absolutely. Because
Monday night will be from the weekend. You know what what takes place? Uh Friday will start because you have all week and I mean I think you I mean I would say Monday, Wednesday, Friday unless you want to just do Monday, Wednesday, Monday, Friday. >> I would. >> What do you want? >> Or Monday, Thursday. >> My business owners need two two nights a
week. >> We ain't the library. >> Okay. 800 people in here. >> There's a bunch of accounts, you know. >> All right. So, so you want So, you want to do that? So, we'll do the Monday, Wednesday, Friday full overnight cleaning and do away with the porter service.
>> Yeah. >> You know, and that should bring the price down because it's an additional 45 hours and they're not giving us their hourly rate here. I don't see it. Um, and see if that brings it down. >> Okay.
>> So, we're going with the municipalities. >> Yes. service contract. The two-year contract would be more effective today. >> But without going to put something of the verbiage that you mention it's in there.
>> What do you say? >> This was 40 45 hours. >> That's what this came up to >> during the day. Then you'd have 24 hours. >> Doesn't let anything slip on. >> Oh yeah. Well, this is going to
take a big chunk. I don't know how much >> they're regular hours besides the porter service that still includes them coming on the weekend. This is a suggested >> and we're going to enjoy every
>> phone has a calculator on it. >> Some are better at using it than others. Trust me. >> Okay. >> So, not Oh, I'm sorry. Can I just take it back >> just really quick? Yeah. >> Okay. I have a pen.
>> Okay. So, it's >> 21 hours. >> It's 45 20 45 24 and 21. >> No, no, no. That's for the 825. Then I'm going to subtract the 21. >> So, >> I'm let him count it all. I know.
>> 45 U 24 and 21. So, 45 and 24 is 69. Okay. And that doesn't make any sense. No, that's what I'm saying. >> No, that's right. That's right. >> But yeah, >> that's right. 21 is 90.
>> This is 24 hours. And is this is it 21 per hour? You think that's what you say? >> No, it's 21 hours. >> 2 to 5 Monday through Sunday. >> Okay. >> Um is uh >> Okay. So 21 hours here. So we just have So $4,700 a month here. It's almost
double there. So if I were to take calculator see okay if I were to take 69 and divide that by
90 >> times 8285 that should be a number $6352 >> that's a that's a >> number yeah >> that's not bad that's that includes the regular service and the overnight.
>> What is total? 6 months. >> 6351. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, it's a lot less because it's half of it. It's the service. >> Yeah. We'd have to get >> Yeah. >> So, when uh when they're in here by
themselves, we close at 10. >> Mhm. >> Are there people bonding? >> Yeah. Yes, they're all they're fully covered bonds. >> I guess I guess the worst case scenario is uh you know we hire them, okay, and
they're really messing up and uh we fire them after 60 days. >> Well, there's a problem >> after two days. >> No, you're right. If you get one, chances are you won't get a second one.
>> What will happen is the second one will have a second choice, have it ready in case he does go. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Rather than wait for backup. >> Um, >> well, we could do that the next meeting. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Question I've been asking for a number
of years and I've never gotten an answer for. >> Well, let's not change it now, Frank. I've only been here for a week and a half. >> The passport rem issue problem is the sheet of title
revenue expenditures and it shows passport service fee $16,000 passport service expedition fee $2100 passport pictures this is for the month uh $4950. Now how much should we charge for passport pictures? I thought it was $10.
I think it went up a little bit. >> All right, let's add one up to 20. So, in a month, we've gotten pictures worth 49,000 4,950. >> If you want for next month, I can put together a passport cuz, you know, I'm
still doing my other position, too. I can put together a passport stat report for you. >> You're getting an answer. Look at that. >> Ask. I'm here to serve. I've asked for years and never happened.
>> I think it was the way that you >> what? >> I think it was the way to eat. >> Yeah. >> Just going to tell you that. >> We're going to bring a cake next. >> Oh, yes. I'll get something together for the next board meeting. >> Okay. >> The other issue is obviously the revenue that we actually get. For example, what
I understand is probably the service expedition fee is only the extra mileage that that's the >> Oh, when they want to expedite. Yeah. Yeah, because there's a fee when you expedite. Yes. >> No, I understand that. >> Uh and uh
I said it shows you well bottom line is when I find out what we're truly >> if she does the report then we'll know >> this. I sent three sheets down there.
Only two came back. >> Come knocking on my door. My hand. >> Thank you, >> Terry. >> Well, >> okay. >> So, are we kind of in a consensus agreement that uh that's what we should do?
>> We just discuss it. >> Yeah, we need a motion. Sounds like a good plan. You need a motion to >> this is a way out >> to join in the contract pending service with the what's it called cleaning >> the more effective cleaning >> the more effective cleaning >> I'll proposed to the less effective
>> that was the one you had >> for two years >> and I'll second >> second we >> Tom >> subtract my not effect >> no that's is there not a bus >> I am a yes Gina >> yes >> mayor Walker >> yes Frank
>> yes >> uh Roco Yes. >> Thank you. >> Then you'll call on tomorrow. Yes. And tell her we're >> I will. Yes. I'll make sure and I'll tell give her all the changes that we had talked about really quick before we move on to the next thing. I just wanted
you guys to be aware next week we're going to have a little bit of offline services because Stella is adding another library to our consortium. I know they're bringing in Asbury Park which is great for them, you know. Um >> but it has been publicized everywhere. I
put it up on all of our social media. It's on our website. So, don't worry. This has all been taken care of. All the publishers and it's at the desk. >> So, if they become part of Stella then are we going to start lending books to Asbury Park? >> We could. Yes. But the thing is, right,
>> we don't have to. >> Why? >> Because we we lend out about five times as many books as we borrow. >> If you want, I can do another report for you the following month, but not next month. Next month is passport. I'll do another one. >> A lot of the smaller libraries that are
in old consortium, we buy six or seven or eight copies or something. It looks good and we don't even freeze it to our own people. >> So, we do for all of our new books. Now, we do freeze it. And if they only, you cannot put a hold if you're in any other
library. Only bridge residents get our new books. >> Yeah. Right. So, and only we will only loan them out to other libraries once they come off the new shelf, which is 6 months. And by then, if there's still holds, we won't take we won't let them
go out again. But we do have that under control. So, it isn't our books are mainly for residents. >> Okay. >> Yeah. My understanding was that we um they can they can hold it, but we step first. >> That's what they told me. I reserved
something that's on that's being purchased. I don't the library yet. They tell me. >> Yeah, we're trying. Ingram we're still having, you know, with the distribution services. There's been a few hiccups because I think the amount sheer amount that are now going to those Ingrams and
other distribution places, >> it was too much for them to handle. So, they had to get more staff and but it's kind of fixing itself out right now. We're we're good. We're in a good place. >> Okay. Anything else? >> Nope. I am good.
>> You're good. Okay. Uh committee reports. We really haven't had any committee reports. Um the only thing that we do need to discuss is personnel and pants position. So uh
>> also for uh for negotiations in September, >> we're going to start negotiating with the supervisory group. >> Okay. >> Which will be delightly awkward. >> I know. Um but we'll get to that and uh that should be pretty quick. We've had
>> very very pragmatic negotiations with that group in the past and we'll do that again. >> Okay. Um but you did now in let's just right now there is no you're ser you're serving in both positions. >> I am. >> Okay. All right. So once we make a
decision then that will open up another position here for the library. >> Okay. Um I again my I don't know because everything was so crazy right before I left to go on vacation. I still have Doran's paperwork here. Not Doran's um pants paperwork here uh for the
agreement for >> Oh, hold on. That's that's exactly >> I'm just saying I still have that paper. I just want to make sure that >> we got hundreds of people on. >> I know. I'm just saying I ran I ran way off vacation and I was like oh my god.
>> All right. So that we don't really have any uh negotiations or anything like that to do. No policy, no technology, nothing. >> I just uh just by outreach, I just want to share with everyone. So Habitat Humanity is building 12 module homes down in Lawrence Harbor today. They did the groundbreaking. Very excited. It's
um Veteran Preferred for six units and then the other six is for general public. It's four bedroom, threebedroom, two and one. I will have all the stats of the breakdown of the income, but we are hosting an outreach program here on the 27th of July. We'll be starting all social media. We'll be going out for it.
We're trying to get as many um of our residents to know and to sign up. We also >> put my company down. We do have a tattoo manual time. So, fabulous. >> My company. So, the other thing that we are doing is we're going to have the Chromebooks. We're working on Chromebooks here for that day so we can
help the residents sign on. It's a very long process. They will have to upload stuff, but as long as we help them get into the system, you know, we're halfway there. >> Yeah, just reach out to me. >> Yeah, they they've already started working on the set. >> Oh, perfect. Everything the mayor and the senator will be doing a PSA with
them to talk about it so we can post it all over our social media outlets so people know. The other thing I spoke to the director today um another thing they do is some really great programming which I'm really excited about is they help the senior housing if they need like um ramps put in or the pull bars in
the shower. So this is a new service that I'm just learning that they offer to residents right through their grant money. So just to put that out there. Um so I'm very excited about that. So I just want to let you all know we're working on that with Habitat for Humanity.
>> Pretty cool, right? I know Chris, you mentioned negotiations with the supervisors. >> Well, I uh upon her exit, Dan had to supervisors write summaries of their departments and what they do. If you haven't read them, I'm talking about the
new people like me and Lynn. And I I those were excellent. It really gave me a lot of insight into library operations and what each of the departments did because sometimes I thought this belonged over there or whatever but they were very helpful. >> Great.
>> Prior to dor uh starting here on our monthly reports we would get a count of how many people came in the library, how many books were borrowed uh and it was by month and cumulative event went so you could get a feeling for what was going on.
>> Okay. and she uh arbitrarily stopped it. I don't know. >> Okay. Yeah, I can put them on like so the door count search number should be there, but sometimes the way Stella runs the reports sometimes depending on when
our meetings falls on if it's too early, they don't have the reports ready for us, unfortunately. So, they'll go into like the next months. >> Okay. >> All right. Yeah. And what does Stella report for other than >> So Stella, they are the ones who keep all of our data. So like for all of our
books that get checked out, we go to their website, but they don't download all of it until later on cuz they need to wait for like the actual end of the month. >> If there was a monthly, we'd be a whole lot better off than we are now. >> Okay. Yeah, I can make sure that's done.
>> You know how I am with my stat reports, right? You got two good You got two good things tonight. >> Frank's on the hot street. >> That's it. You're done. >> That's it. >> Don't push it along. It makes sense. >> Motion for >> All right. So, let's Can I have a motion
for executive session, please? >> Okay. Second. >> Second it. >> Okay. >> All in favor? >> Okay. >> Okay. Garrett, I'm putting you in the waiting room. >> I can't see. >> Okay.
>> And close recording. >> Oh, stop recording. Yes. >> Recording. >> Okay. Motion to come out of exempt. Gotcha. >> I'll make the motion. So move. >> Okay. >> Frank seconds. >> Okay. Frank second. >> All in favor?
>> Thank you. >> Based upon our discussions in executive session, we have two additional items. First one is under new business. Item B will be to direct the acting director to issue a ban to the patron who was discussed in executive session effective
immediately and for a period of 30 days subject to adjustment. Can we get a motion? >> So moved. >> Okay. Roco moved it. Tom made it. Oh, you second. Okay. Gotcha. Uh we are up
to um I am a yes. Gina, >> yes. >> Mayor Walker, >> yes. >> Frank, >> yes. >> Uh, sorry. Roco, >> yes. >> Thomas, >> yes. >> And Teresa, >> yes. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Secondly, we have personnel action
item A, which would be a motion for the approval of an acting director contract with Pam Condello effective retroactive to May 29th, 2026 at a per DM adjustment rate of $41.32
through September 30th, 2026. Take a motion. >> I'll make the motion. >> I'll second it. >> Gina will second it. All right. Uh Gina. Yes, >> Mayor Walker. >> Yes, >> Frank. >> Yes, >> Rocco. >> Yes,
>> Tom. >> Yes. >> Uh, Teresa. >> Yes. >> And I am a Yes. >> Congratulations. >> Congratulations. >> Welcome aboard. >> Thank you. >> Don't be saying thank you now. >> And I did notify Pam what we talking
about with the possibility of elevating a librarian and also talking about terms as we get into this and see how it is going. >> Very good. I make a motion to adjurnn the meeting. >> Okay. Motion second.
>> Second. All in favor? >> Eyes have it. >> All right, everyone. Have a good night. against it.