It's 7:30. Good evening, everyone. >> I'd like to call to order the uh September 9th, 2025 Oldbridge Township Planning Board meeting. Please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. ledge to the flag of the United States
of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Daniel, can we have a roll call, please? >> Mr. Dama, >> here. >> Mr. Lenning, >> here.
>> Mr. Hagopian absent. Miss Cannon >> here. >> Mr. Vera >> here. >> Mr. Petty >> here. >> Miss Mella >> here. >> Mr. Mcisac absent. Mr. Brennan >> here. >> Mr. Ferrara >> here. >> And Chairman Low >> here. >> Okay. Uh first item on the agenda
tonight is the minutes of the meeting are the minutes of the meeting for July 24th 25. Can I get a motion to uh approve? >> I'll move it. >> Second. >> Mr. Mr. Diploma,
>> yes. >> Mr. Lenning, >> yes. >> Miss Cannon, >> yes. >> Mr. Rena, >> yes. >> Mr. Petty, >> abstain. >> Miss Misella, >> yes. >> Mr. Brennan, >> yes. >> Mr. Ferrara, >> yes. >> And Chairman Low, >> yes. Uh, next, um, the minutes for July
29th, 2025. Can I get a motion? >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mr. Palmer? >> Yes. >> Mr. Lenning? Yes, >> Miss Cannon. >> Yes, >> Mr. Rena. >> Yes, >> Mr. Petty.
>> Yes, >> Miss Misella. >> Abstain, >> Mr. Brennan. >> Yes, >> Mr. Ferrara. >> Yes. >> And Chairman Low. >> Yes. Okay. Next. Resolutions. There are none. Okay. And the next item is an
application 53- 2024P HB Warehousing LLC represented by Mr. Cali. Good evening. >> Thank you for being here tonight.
>> It has to be green if it's on. >> There you go. Green. Perfect. Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members. Um, for the record, Larry Cali on behalf of the applicant HP warehousing. Think we're going to be relatively brief tonight, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate you folks being here. Um, the issue is that I know uh the applicant's engineer and the
board engineer are still working through some design issues. We think it's prudent to get through those before we appear before the board on the full complement of the case on the merits. I know your board planner is is out of the country at the moment and returning shortly. So, the applicant is looking to carry this to a new date certain. Um, I
had an opportunity to speak to Mr. Sordillo about the applicant's goal of getting in as soon as possible. This was an application that was deemed complete in March. So, they're they're looking to get this on uh the docket as soon as reasonably possible. We would be looking for a special. I'm not certain if we can
negotiate those dates tonight. I realize we'd have to renotice. If there was a special and we are not carried to that date this evening, that's fine. Uh and there's also the issue that the engineers are going to work out about whether or not the major subdivision application that's currently pending before the board of adjustment really
should be before this board on a jurisdictional basis and should be brought into the fold for an efficiency purpose and be consolidated as a single application. So, I understand the engineers are going to discuss the report that issued next week. We'd be looking for a carry at this moment to
get to that date so we can uh clear those items up before we get back before the board. >> So, uh yes, Mr. Chairman, I spoke with uh Mr. Cali earlier this afternoon uh about this uh application and the outstanding factors and and issues that we're dealing with. And so, the um the
request is that the application be adjourned. Uh I believe um that the next available meeting that would be on our regular schedule be oh I thought it was sorry our next available scheduled meeting uh that would be available would be the December 2025 meeting. Uh however
they are asking to see if we could find if there is a date that we could figure out to be a special meeting. So at this time we're just going to adjourn it to a date to be determined. We will reach out separately not here on this board today. Uh but the applicant will be renoticing to everyone in the public as to when the
new date will be set for this application. Also, as a side note, um just as seeing uh the number of members of the public here, we may need to find another location to be able to accommodate. I don't know if we're technically in violation of the fire code or not right now, but we need to make sure that we're not. So, and but we
want to make sure that everyone here is able to attend the meeting, able to, you know, do so reasonably and not have to sit, you know, and stand how how everyone is today. So, we might need to find another location for that as well. Uh, that will be whatever the new location is will be as part of the
notice that you will get just like you got for this application here. So, uh, that will be part of it. I just want to let everyone because we do have a lot of members of the public here. We want to make sure that the board understands. We want to hear all your concerns and all your input with regard to this application. So, you will be advised
when it is rescheduled and if it happens to not be in this location, where that will be as part of the new notice as well as the notice that is going to be scheduled as part or set out as part of the uh uh planning board's required noticing if we do change locations. Um
so, uh Mr. Chairman, that is the request on. Uh I support that request based upon uh what is um you know the issues and speaking with uh Vina as well as uh our engineer to give them a time to work out. As you noticed the uh report was quite robust. So there's a lot of items
that need to be discussed and worked out. >> Okay. So we'll need a a motion to uh move this forward to the next available meeting. >> I'll make the motion. I'll second. Second,
>> Miss Cam, were you second? >> Uh, Mr. Diploma? >> Yes. >> Mr. Lenning? >> Yes. >> Miss Cannon? >> Yes. >> Mr. Rena? >> Yes. >> Mr. Petty? >> Yes. >> Miss Misella? >> Yes. >> Mr. Brennan? >> Yes. >> Mr. Ferrara? >> Yes. >> And Chairman Lowour?
>> Yes. >> And Mr. Chairman, if I may, just just members of the public, please understand this is I know it's inconvenience. you guys all came out tonight, but we will you will be renoticed and you will have an opportunity to address this application uh at the next meeting that is rescheduled to. Mr. Sadillo, just one
thing. So, it does look like we are going to need a a bigger room. So, when Vener is back and we'll speak with the business administrator as well, we're going to have to find another suitable venue for this because I would assume that if a fire inspector came in, we'd have problems.
>> Right. Right. And we want to make sure that you will all be we'll provide and I'll work with um uh Danny as well as Vina to make sure that not just the minimum uh amount of notices provided. We'll make sure we put it on our website. We'll get it out wherever that new location is going to be. We'll put
it out as as as much as we can so that everybody has that information uh and knows where the where the next location is going to be where the meeting will be. >> So, Mr. Mr Chairman, I think uh normally we just open it up to general public unless uh Mr. Kelly has anything to add. >> No, I just want to thank you all for
your time this evening. We appreciate it. Thank you Joe. Thank you Danny for the accommodations and we'll be seeing you folks soon. We'll be in touch. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Have a good night everybody. >> Good night. >> And Mr. Chairman, I did see some hands up. I know we usually go to general public comments next. So I don't know if you want to allow them to >> Okay. Uh
>> could you do we have a a mic for the public? So good evening chairperson, vice chairperson, planning board attorney and respected planning members. Uh I understand it like you know they joined the meeting now. Do we still have ability to raise our concern regarding
the original application? I understand that application was for the variance. However, we are objecting that application on entirely based on the original submission. So, do we have a ability to raise our concern on the original application?
>> Yes, you'll be able to make your objections to the application in total, meaning where the history of it, where it came from, anything that is related to it, but it has to be at the we can't hear it now because the hearing on the application is has been adjourned. This is just general public comment but you
will be provided that opportunity at the when the ne when the hearing does go forward at the next meeting when it does get rescheduled. >> Okay. I mean I'm just kind of disappointed because you know the large number of people showed up today >> and uh uh you know this is the second
reschedule I would say. I mean original meeting was held on the August 11th I believe. So and this is September 9th and large people are like you know objecting this construction. So, I want to make sure that like, you know, everyone can, you know, if you can just hear us out, that would be great.
>> But we can't tonight because if if we let you speak, put it this way, because even if you let we let you speak tonight, it wouldn't be part of the record. It wouldn't be part of it. So, this board wouldn't be able to consider that when it makes its decision. It can only hear it and consider it when it's part of the actual public hearing that's going to go forward. That has been
carried. So, even if we let you all have an opportunity and speak to the board tonight, we wouldn't be able to consider it. it and that couldn't be a basis to deny the application if that's the way the board would go towards. It would have to be at the actual public hearing during the process that it's allowed basic under the New Jersey law. That's
just what the municipal land use law requires. >> Understood. So, do we have the ability to submit the petition in a writing with the signature of all resident opposing this warehouse construction? >> You can submit it, but it doesn't become uh any factual. the fact that it get a
petition's been signed and submitted. That fact alone can be considered by the board, any factual assertations or anything that's stated in there, objections has to be done in person as part of the application because the applicant has to have an opportunity to cross-examine you or ask you questions
about what you're presenting. Not always, they don't always do that when it comes to the public's comments and but they have to have that opportunity. So we can't meaning the board can't just if you submit something in writing that has you know uh 10 pages of facts and basis for your objection we can't
consider that unless you come here and testify to it. If you come in and say, you know, at the next meeting and say, "Here, we submitted this. This is what we submitted. We stand by these factual assertations, and you don't have to even go through them all, but as long as you're there at the meeting, this board then can consider it because the
applicant then has an opportunity to question you about what you put in that piece of paper. It's then an exhibit to the to the application." >> So, whom should we submit that application? >> What's that? I'm sorry. >> Whom should we submit that application? Should it go to the planning board? Yes, it should go through the planning board through through uh uh Danny the board uh
uh secretary. Okay. >> And then it gets distributed through other board members as well as to the applicant. But like I said, for it to be considered evidence as part of it, you do still have to come to the next meeting and testify towards it. >> Understood. Thank you so much. >> Absolutely. >> Would anyone else
please go to the mic? >> Good evening uh members of the planning board. uh one request while uh determining the future date is to um is to make is to uh keep in mind that December is really vacation period. So we would really appreciate if you could
not uh schedule the meeting towards the last two weeks of December because most of us are on vacation and so would you be I would imagine. So if it's it could it could be uh first week of December or following year uh I think we should be okay with that. >> Yes, I can Mr. Ch if I may. Uh the
regular scheduled meeting for the December of this board is December 11th. So if there is no special meeting, it's going to be December 11th would be the next date, but it hasn't been set yet. You will get a renotic. It will be published on our website and published in the newspaper. But that would be to your point, it wouldn't be after
December 11th. If anything, it would be December 11th or earlier. >> Wonderful. And if it is December 11th, how far in advance are we going to get a notice? Because we need to be prepared. >> The minimum the minimum that they have to provide is 10 days. Okay. >> So, they'd have to at at least you'll have 10 days prior to then. So, you at
least get it by December 1st, but if we know it ahead of time and because it's going to be a new location, so the board has to to provide notice if we're going to change location as well. So, you'll get that. We'll post that as soon as we know as we're able to. >> Wonderful. Appreciate it. Thank you so much. >> Yes. >> Thank you.
>> Anyone else like this? >> Good evening. Um >> just had a question regarding uh how many times are you going to be rescheduling this particular issue? >> Uh there there wasn't any intention to reschedule that this this came up recently. The the prior meeting was
there was a a cancellation of the meeting that's why that got to rescheduled in August. This one was at their the applicant's request because they wanted to. There is no intention to reschedule it after the next scheduling. I can't guarantee nothing might happen. I mean, you know, anything could happen,
but I know the applicant, based on my conversations with their attorney, wants to proceed. Um, they don't want to wait. That's why they're asking for a special meeting instead of just waiting for this to December meeting because they want to get this application heard before the board. >> So, I doubt it would be rescheduled
next. I doubt it would be adjourned whenever it's rescheduled next. >> Okay. All right. >> Hi. Uh I have one quick question. Um so as you can see a lot of people are here opposing this uh warehouse construction in its entirety. Right? So just wanted
to check like nothing is set in stone right now. We still will be having some opportunity to provide our point of view and appeal that hey you know what we should get this thing uh denied uh in its entirety. Right? I'm like there's
been no presentation to the board. only been I mean the board has their submission documents the same as you guys can get through Oprah and and going to the board that's all that this board has had the professionals have had private meetings with their professionals to work out some of their the board's professionals questions and
concerns with regard to technical aspects of it so that there is no the reason for that is so that when we have the application there's no dispute between professionals as to what do you actually mean are you saying that's 12 feet or is that 13 ft that that was been all right whatever you're proposing we know what it is at that But it's all for
this board. It's all fresh. It's all new. There's nothing's been predetermined. Nothing's been decided. It's it's all going to be happening at that hearing that you'll be at and we'll all hear it at the same time. >> Okay. Yeah. Because as you can see, this is pretty big for all of us uh families over here. So, I just want to make sure
that everyone here knows that nothing is set in stone and if we show up here and then express our concerns, we can have this denied as well. >> Absolutely. Thank you. >> Yes, sir. See, I'm not talking in favor or
opposing this application. I just want to make sure from the chairman that applicant should renotice the all neighbors. Yes. Because sometime December is too far and people forget is a holiday time.
So if they have a piece of paper in a mail, they will know. So make make sure they advertise proper and also send the personal notices to the neighbors. >> They're going to do exactly every every notice that they did originally. They're
going to have to do 100% again for the new meeting. >> Yeah. Because as a as a council person of this township, I cannot speak on application favor or opposite. Thank you. >> Absolutely. Thank you. Does anyone else have uh
anything? Seeing no hands, I close the public portion. >> Yep, that's it. >> Okay, >> thank you all for coming. We will uh definitely >> see you again soon. >> Thank you. Yeah. Well, he Danny told me to wait
till everybody. >> Excuse me, guys. Both those doors in the back open. So, please open both those doors to get out. Thank you. >> There it is. >> Somebody told me there was a big con constituency. Oh, is it locked? Never mind.
>> People in that development, but and I'm not sure I believed them, but now I do. Yeah, >> they where >> I think they said she's out of the country. >> She's in India, right? >> She's in India.
>> Why would they schedule a meeting without >> I don't know. Maybe she was taking a lot of heat or >> Yeah, that that I couldn't tell you. No, >> no, I'm principal.
I get a motion for adjournment. Please move it. >> Second. >> All in favor? I >> I I I