i'd like to call the meeting in order Would everybody please rise for salute to the flag i pledge allegiance to the flag of America stands one nationy andice for all Please be
seated Good evening everyone Welcome to Township of Old Zoning Board of Adjustment regular meeting April 17th 2025 Adequate notice of this uh meeting of the Oldbridge Township Zoning Board of Adjustment has been provided in accordance with the open public meetings act at least 48 hours prior to the
commencement of the meeting by prominently posting in the municipal complex an announcement giving the date the time the location and the agenda of this meeting by mailing such announcement to the Home News and Tribune filing such uh filing a copy of such announcement with the municipal clerk and posting the agenda on the
municipal website Mr Pchelli could we have a roll call please certainly Mrs Andrews She present Oh I'm sorry That's okay Mrs Chevier here Mr O here Mr Scogno here Mr
Stoner here Miss Testie Mr Singh Miss Gomez here Chairman Sullivan here Uh just a housekeeping issue Uh this meeting is being televised live on the
local cable network here CATV uh 15 Uh it's simultaneously being uh put out on YouTube live If you ever need to refer back to look for a meeting you can find them there under OP Township Everyone here I'm sure has one of these
and I would ask you please silence them uh or mute them so it doesn't interrupt the testimony and it's uh it's picked up by the microphones I don't anticipate we'll be here for the duration tonight but it's the uh rules of the board that should
testimony uh go as far as 10:00 we do stop testimony at that time Have to open up a public portion of that particular uh application of course as all applications there'll be a public portion for each and everyone Having said that I'm going to move right ahead uh minutes is first on the agenda number
three this is minutes of March 2025 meeting board hopefully everyone has a had time to review them absent any comments I'd ask someone to move them for adoption I'll move it second roll call please Mrs Andrews yes m chevier yes Mr
O yes Mr Scogno yes Mr Stoner Yes Miss Gomez Yes Chairman Sullivan Yes Uh board members the same applies to the minutes of April 3rd 2025 Would ask someone to move those for adoption Is move it Is a second
Is Mr Second yeah that's fine Okay Mrs Andrews yes Miss Chevier yes Mr Iso yes Mr Scogno yes Mr Stoner yes Miss Gomez yes Chairman Sullivan yes I think we'll have you guys sit next to each other We've been raced to the finish line Hit
that button All right Item four is resolutions We have two this evening Uh Mr Dasty 55-20223Z David Merwin This is for certificate of nonconformity Sir thank you This is a resolution approving the three family home The uncontroverted
testimony from the neighbors as well as the applicant owner is that it's been a three family home since the 30s and our zoning ordinances didn't go into effect until 1970 So it's a pre-existing non-conforming use He had applied for a
certificate of non-compliance with these and or a use variance Since we granted the certificate of non-compliance he didn't need the use He's a pre-existing non-conforming use And that's what the resolution says And also there was a condition that um he
provide uh proof from the county uh um board of appeals what construction board of appeals that uh it overrule ruled the building department and he had you know the build he had the right to have the building permits and we have that we did that we have that condition met board
members you've heard the resolution someone want to move that for adoption no one's moving it I will clear it and I'll second it roll call Please Yes Mrs Andrews yes Miss Chevier yes Mr Iso yes Mr Scogno yes Mr Stoner yes Miss
Gomez yes Chairman Sullivan yes Uh 34-2024Z CCP Outdoor LLC Uh doing business as outdoor media It was preliminary and final site plan C and D variance Mr Dasty thank you This uh the um billboards are not permitted in this
area but the billboards already there It's been approved for many years They're changing the billboard I'm going to get this wrong From a static to the digital Is that the way it goes all right And uh it's going to be uh they're going to have the digital up every 30 seconds would be a change which is much
better and much longer than the 8second minimum It's the same spot same footprint same everything So that's but he had to get the use variance application as well as the the C variance Thank you Mr Dasty Board members someone will move that for adoption please I'll move it stoner That
was Mr Stoner and Miss Andrews Roll call please Mrs Andrews yes Miss Chevier yes Mr Iso yes Mr Scogno yes Mr Stoner yes Miss Gomez yes Chairman Sullivan yes All right that does it on the resolutions Mr D I'm going to ask you to please swear
in our professionals at this point Gentlemen would you please all raise your right hand or I do thank you Okay we're going to move forward in the applications We're going to do them just as they are listed on the agenda if you happen to have a copy First up is
21-2024Z It's Renaissance at Oldbridge LLC This Sure I'll take this is uh SD1 special development zone This is block 1300 lot 8.12 physical locations 363 highway 9
This is major preliminary and final site plan with the DV variance This is for applicant proposes to lease a portion of the ground floor spacious general office salvatory esquire sir Jacobe Alfir and Jacobs on behalf of
the applicant Um just one correction The summary on the agenda said Dvariance relief Dvariance is not required We worked that out with Vina because there was an ordinance change since the last approval but we do need a C variance for parking This is an existing shopping
center um or office complex Uh Mr Bob McDade who's seated to my left your right is a principal of the applicant and we're going to have him orient the board as to what this application represents Mr McDade Mr We'll swear in anyone's going to testify and you can
identify yourselves as you uh as you start to testify Would you raise your right hand sir i see Mr K Okay Do you guys do you swear do you guys do you swear or affirm to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth thank you Just give us your full name and spell your last when you get rid of the testify MC
D A I D MC D A D Thank you And and Bob what is your affiliation with Renaissance at Oldbridge LLC i'm the president of uh Renaissance Properties and Renaissance at Oldbridge LLC is the owner of the property which I'm a principal And how long your company is a
tenant in the office building portion Is that correct correct Mr Alfur one one thing We have a new member of the board Would you just orient in case anybody doesn't know where the property is that is that's already standing yes Thanks Just to take a moment that they'll Okay So um we handed out a three-page exhibit
Jerry that you want to just mark it as A1 Is that what we're going to do a1 So Bob why don't we start with the top and you all have this exhibit we do So start at the top um of the three-pager and the bottom is Route 9 Is that correct
correct Why don't we start on the right side and work your way to the left just walk through with the board Okay Uh first I'll orient where the property is It's directly across the street from Oasis Ford What was it all American Ford Metro Now we're in the northbound lane and the building to your right the
longer building is a retail building Dunkin Donuts is in there a cafe Luna it's a dentist a few other tenants North of that is a bank and north of that is our office building That is a two-story building from the front three stories in
the back A and you're seeking to get permission to rent the ground floor of the office building which is on the left side of that exhibit Correct almost correct Oh the bottom floor Well part of the bottom floor right okay Sorry Yeah we'll get there So um other
than the permission to rent you're not proposing any site improvements of any kind no Um traffic circulation parking everything exists Same way Okay So if we flip to the second page can you tell the board what these two photographs depict
that's a picture of the rear elevation of the office building And the bottom picture if you look to the left behind that big not sure what type of shrub it is those windows down low are a space that used
to be occupied by our office staff Um when we got this approved 25 years ago approximately that area was designated to be used for our office staff which occupies most of the second floor We no longer need that space It's
approximately 2600 square f feet and we'd like to rent it out Square footage did you say approximately 2600 Um and I I guess leading to that you corrected me You you you repres you are looking to rent only a portion of the
ground floor There are other tenants on the ground floor No there no other tenants It's garages and storage right and those garages all exist as well Correct And in the application there's a reference to some tandem parking for for your employees Can you just describe the board how that would work so there's um
five cars six cars in the garage two in the carport and the employees of our office share the space uh in the morning First in is all the way in and we And that's been operating that way for how long 23 years Okay And then the last um
exhibit is is simply the the current um this is the variance plan that was submitted Correct Correct And it's accurate It's consistent with the aerial photo that we just referred to Correct Now is um is you understand that since you're technically adding office space
it's creating a variance condition for parking only What is the parking situation on site and during your term of ownership we've never had a problem with parking at the office space at all Um even the retail space with the exception of Cafe Luna on the weekends
maybe at night they get a little busy The Dunkin Donut does all their volume in the morning mostly through the drive-thru and we've never had a problem with having excess parking at the office There were two comments in Vena's report One deals with potential sight triangle
possible obstructions with growth You'll agree to address that to the satisfaction of the board professionals Yes And she also comments on the condition of some of the signage that may need to be replaced and or upgraded You would do the same Correct In terms of refu it's all existing conditions You're not you don't need to add any
refu areas No Um and then we did get a letter from the fire official that he had no offices with it The site circulation always says always operated fine as well Correct Correct Um I believe that's really all we had of this witness Mr Chair
Mr D are we going to start with you i don't have any questions for this witness Mr Chairman And Mr Bernham Van Burnham I told you I'd forget it Thanks Um I don't have any questions uh right now Mr Holland I have no questions
Good Thank you sir Thank you We're now going to call Scott Kennel who is our traffic expert Scott you've been sworn in but could you identify yourself and then place your credentials on sure please Scott Kennel KeNel with Mcdana and Ray Associates
located at 1431 Lakewood Road Manisquan I'm a principal with Mcdana and Ray Associates with over 35 years of traffic and transportation planning experience I've testified in over 2,000 site plan applications a number of them before this board as well as the Oldbridge Planning Board and I've been qualified
in New Jersey Superior Court on multiple land use matters as a traffic expert Mr Mr Kennel's familiar to this board for years and uh we accept his expertise Thank you Thank you And Scott um you your office had prepared a report in support of the application Would you summarize the findings of that report
please yes Uh so we submitted a parking report dated April 5 2024 to the board and basically it summarizes uh the existing uses the inventoried existing parking and we conducted parking
observations at peak times that would be coincidental with uh the occupancy of the 2600 square feet as office space Uh the site currently provides 191 parking spaces The maximum number of vehicles
that we saw observed there were were 100 vehicles at 2:00 Many other times there were less than 80 vehicles I did a couple observations again today and they were consistent with our observations from a year ago Uh so basically we had
concluded that when we look at the township ordinance the township ordinance requires 217 parking spaces but the ordinance is set up where it does not take into consideration uh shared parking where we have a multitude of uses on site that don't have
coincidental peaks So when you take that into consideration with the for example the restaurant having its peak later in the day Dunkin Donuts basically in the morning around lunchtime and the office mid part of the day that our analysis concluded that there's more than
adequate parking not only for the existing uses but for the occupancy of the 2600 square ft in the um office building Furthermore when you look review the parking adjacent to the
office building there's approximately 85 parking spaces we max out at approximately 35 to 40 vehicles during peak times for that office use So again there's more than ample parking spaces in the vicinity of
the office use without having to compete with the other I'll say retail uses on the south side of the um of the site And one last point as far as um parking rates we consulted the Urban Land Institute the Institute of
Transportation Engineers and they suggest for this type of mixeduse development that you'd have use a parking rate of 4.5 per thousand or a need for 165 parking spaces And our parking um observations conclude that that's
consistent with those recommendations So in essence it's it's my expert opinion that the occupancy of the office space or 2600 ft² be more than accommodated and will not have any negative impact on the operations of the center Um one
final question relating to um uh DOT or outside agency approvals Do you believe that either an NJ do DOT permit or letter of no interest would be required for this approval if I do not I mean basically DOT approved this development
with the uses as shown when a site is expanded or a change in use that increases um the peak hour trip generation by more than 100 trips then that would warrant um going back to DOT for a new permit
The occupancy of the lower level with 2600 square feet of office translates into five to eight additional peak hour trips So therefore we're well below the threshold that would require uh a letter of no interest And then and then as Mr
McDade confirmed there are no site improvements The access drives are remaining exactly as they are So there's no need to apply to the DOT for any permits for changes to the access points Is that correct that's correct That's all we have of this witness Mr Chair do you know what the what was the approval
back in 13 when you changed do you know you mean the same parking spots was it the same that's correct Okay Mr Dari Uh Mr Kennel's uh testimony answered pretty much all the questions that we
had in our our review Mr Chairman I don't really have any questions for Mr Kennel I do concur with his uh his assessment that the shared parking arrangement uh or the sharing of parking and the offsetting peak times actually supports the the variance that's uh
requested Okay Does that include the extent of your report all the issues that that does the regarding letter put that on the record I'm sure that will address all the technical comments Sure Yeah The technical comments that need to be addressed I'm comfortable that the applicant will be able to address them Okay Uh the letter of no interest I
don't believe is it should be a condition based off of the the minor nature of the uh of the application that can Mr Van Baron anything I have no questions relating to traffic now back to you Mr Alfairy oh you have any or no
Mr Hel No sir He's wanted to be asked I read his mind I um we have a planner here who when we had a D variance question we we're going to bring the planner I'm I'm not sure if you want to hear planning testimony to support the C variance We have a planner here She has
a seven-page summary that she could read to you but um I defer to the board She's here if you want her I don't think anything's changing except I guess the only thing that maybe the board would want to know is what type of uses would be in in there We stipulated you would
someone want to testify to that well I can tell you in the application we stipulate it would be general office So it would not be medicals and general office is always a much lower parking uh demand than medical Mr D you're good Right i'm good Okay Mr Dasty I'm confident
that that's Let me just see if there's any questions Sure Uh I'm going to start on my left starting with Miss Gomez Uh you have any questions and I'll go right down the line No sir None We're good That concludes our presentation Mr Chair Okay Thank you Uh
thank you Mr Kennel Um yeah once again this is obviously we're not changing anything You're just going to rent out space that's actually already being used or no longer but you you the offices the management people went upstairs I guess or to the other side and now you have that freed up space Is that the way I
got this yeah second floor of the Yes You mind if I go to the uh public at this time please uh this is 21-2024Z It's Renaissance at Oldbridge LLC The physical locations uh 36 uh 336
uh3 That's on Highway 9 North This is for office space Uh it is not going to require a uh Dvarian This is going to be require a boat variance So anyone here in the courtroom want to be heard please raise your hand or stand
No one has I'll close the public portion Any final comments sir no Thank you Um Mr Dasty we're just going to have to vote on as I read this parking right then two design waivers Uh design waivers preliminary final site plan and
C variance So it's a majority vote of the Yes Yes We can do the C first and then we can do design waivers right sure So it's for uh C for minimum number of parking spaces They're they have 191 uh 217 by the ordinance
And is there two there's three existing design waiverss on No I know the design waivers That's the only C It's just the That's the only C Yes Oh that's the only Yes that's the only C Someone interested in moving that for approval ISO Is there a second
chevelier Roll call please That's the C Mrs Andrews yes Miss Chevier yes Mr Iso yes Mr Scognagno yes Mr Stoner Yes Miss Gomez yes Chairman Sullivan yes And then the design waiverss are three correct
minimum number of bicycle spaces You're not putting one in I'm assuming Okay Minimum parking area sidewalk width We're not going to change that right and uh sidewalk along the frontage We could take those together correct yes you can Yes And unless anybody wants to pull one of those out I'm going to ask for
approval on the three design waiverss Is there a move is there a second seven Second Vice Chair seconds Roll call please Mrs Andrews Yes Miss Chevier Yes Mr Iso Yes Mr Scogno Yes Mr Stoner Yes Miss
Gomez Yes Chairman Sullivan Yes And C variance We have to No that would we did the C Did you do the site plan we didn't do the site plan Final preliminary final Final sight Preliminary and final site plan No D veterans That's right
I move it Vice chair moves it Is there stoner mr Stoner Seconds Roll call Mrs Andrews Yes M Chevier Yes Mr Iso Yes Mr Scott Yes Mr Stoner Yes Miss Gomez Yes Chairman Sullivan That business and
the businesses in there have been working out for years since they put that up and I remember it before there was the building there So yes And I I'm sure they'll continue to operate in the same fashion Thank you very much everyone All right Thank you Mr Alfair Have a nice and your professionals
Good night Mr Chairman I love hanging out with you guys but I think this is the only thing here for Why don't you stay around you don't want to stay I mean unless there's a party afterwards I'm I'm I'm here No party What do you have a better order if I drive real fast I might be able to get home before my wife gets to sleep Okay
Well please go home and have your dinner Happy Easter to you Happy Easter Mr uh Van Burnham Um Um he's my ride So okay You got Okay Thank you very much everyone Have a good weekend Have a good Easter Thanks for your appearance I hope it could be
longer next time Right I would just give them a moment to step off the deis I will call that uh 60 one next one on the agenda is 632024Z That's 11:03 Route 35 LLC
Uh this matter this public hearing for this application has been adjourned to May 1st Be no further notice Applicant seeks to appeal the zoning officer's denial uh dated 10724 of a zoning permit to establish a gentleman's club So this
is the second uh time there's been an adjournment So May one will be the next appearance on that matter It's 63 2024 Z It's uh gentleman's club appeal on route 35
Having said that we'll move forward 012025Z Matthew and Christine Bradley This is R20 lowmedium density residential zone black 11257 lot 13 Uh physical location is 4284 highway 516 in
Oldbridge It's for C variant for an addition Applicant proposes to demolish the existing kitchen and sun room and construct a one-story addition to the home You are Mr Bradley Yes sir Sir would you raise your right hand do you swear or affirm to tell the
whole truth to help you God yes sir Give us your full name Spell your last My full name is Matthew Bradley Last name B R A D L E Y Thank you Thank you Mr Bradley Uh you're not represented by
anyone You don't have any witnesses that you're going to bring forward tonight no sir Okay Is there any exhibits that you're going to be passing for the board to see other than what you've submitted no sir Only what I've submitted Then then what I'm going to explain to you you're looking for a bulk variance to see variance Um you're representing
yourself What the board needs needs to hear to justify that is what you're doing why you're doing it how you're doing it All of those Give us that Uh we may have some questions You may have some questions for us I'll go to the professional Mr Hollahan He's going to tell us why you're here for a variance
and then we'll come back Uh if you feel confident that you feel that the board's going to vote in your favor you can ask for a vote and we'll take that vote You'd need a plurality So in this case you you'd need the majority of the votes Uh if you feel that you've left
something out or you don't feel that the board is going to be in your favor you can ask for a continuence The board will probably grant that We don't have to but we we probably would I'll open up a public portion if I don't see anybody left from the boardroom I know that's another applicant there So uh there's probably not going to be anybody to say
say that board uh council may have a question I don't know We'll see how it progresses So you can do so at your own pace as a as a resident here at the town just like we all sitting here are residents of the town Understood Thank you Um we intend to do the addition my wife and I because we
have two young children aged four and two Uh if you'll see on the paperwork our existing home is a hair over a thousand square feet and we have a third child on the way and I don't think we could survive another winter with the kids in
the house being as small as it is Um we intend to do as much of the work ourselves we can I have 20 years construction experience I do quality control on infrastructure
projects and it's a project we're confident we can handle If we had the option it would probably be easier to move to a larger home but with interest rates being elevated we're kind of between a rock and a hard place That's understandable We'd like you to
stay here in Old Bridge We don't want you moving somewhere else We don't want to move either We already have the children's heights marked on the door jamb So make sure you don't destroy that part of the door frame It's going to stay there a long time Okay Is that all you have for us right now tell us what
are you adding on now uh we're going to demolish the existing kitchen which is I believe 10 by 14 and the existing sun room we call it which is a converted porch We're using it as
storage It's not much And we're building let's see what do we end up with uh net we'll be adding about 800 square ft to the home We'll be building an additional bedroom So we're taking the home from a two-bedroom 1 and 1/2 bath to a three bedroomedroom
uh 2 and 1 half bath with a little bit with a living room which we currently don't really have for the children to run around and such Let me go to Mr Holland Okay Yes sir Thank you chairman Um yeah so the applicant is here tonight seeking one C
variance The C variance is actually for the combined sideyard um where 40 feet is uh required and the applicant is proposing 38.36 ft Um the addition itself conforms to the 20ft sideyard requirement where it's proposed at 27 ft But with the
existing nonconforming west sideyard which is at 11.36 ft um his total comes out to 38.36 ft where he's required 40 So it's one single C variance for the combined sideyard setbacks So if not for about a foot and a half he wouldn't be here
Correct Okay Mr Dasty uh we see on the survey sir your lot is um 75 ft wide whereas 100t required in that area Tell us about the neighborhood The neighborhood lots are about your size
also or I believe I have the narrowest lot of the bunch Okay Um that was all subdivided it looks like in the 40s when my house was built They're all approximately the same depth um for the homes immediately around me
The lots go deeper as you move further west down 516 but it's it's the smallest of the fairly typical narrow and deep lot that we have there Thank you Would you would you believe that the house when it's completed would blend into the
neighborhood okay and stay with the neighborhood scheme uh much better than it currently does because it's it looks like the cheapest house on the block and I'm surrounded by much nicer homes So you're constrained though because of the narrowness of the property that you in
order to make this work in the house Yes sir And uh you'd agree with that Mr Holland yeah If the applicants lot was conforming like you said he would not be here tonight because he'd meet all requirements Let me see if any of the board members on my left have a question Go right down
the row No none No none on my right Okay Uh you have anything else you want to tell us i think you kind of said it all Um once again if if this were not for a foot and a half or so Yeah Um and the narrowness
of the lot you wouldn't be here tonight You'd be building that addition Let me see if there's anybody in the public I know that there probably won't be We'll see Uh this is uh 012025Z The physical location is 4284
highway 8 uh highway 516 Oldbridge This is for an addition to a house uh that's going to violate the combined sideyard setback by about a foot and a half Anyone here in the courtroom want to be heard on this matter please raise your hand or stand No one has I'm going to close the
public portion Final comments sir It would be really great if it was approved Uh yeah When's the next baby coming december Okay See you have the summer to Should we act in your favor you'll have
the summer to build right we'll see what happens Uh anything else any final comments board would you like me to take a vote uh yes sir Please Okay Board members this would be for a C variance combined yard setback uh 40 foot required
38.36 is uh going to uh exist Someone want to move this C varian Miss Andrew Mrs Andrew go uh second I move Gomez Roll call please Mrs Andrews yes
Miss Chevier yes Mr Iso yes Mr Skaggno yes Mr Stoner yes Miss Gomez yes Chairman Sullivan you know I said that before We don't want anybody leaving the town We want we want to keep people here and I'm glad to see that you're reinvesting in the property staying here in the community That's better for you
It's better for us My vote is of course is yes Uh there'll be a resolution prepared by the next meeting which is May 1st You don't have to appear for that You'll be in contact with the officials here in the town They'll tell you get your permits and you'll be able
to go get your permits after May 1st That's excellent Thank you Thank you very much for appearing Thank you Appreciate everybody Happy Easter to you Happy Easter Happy holidays Okay Uh we have one more That's
5-2025Z It's Jabby Jaffalen I hope I said I got close on that Anyway I think this is this is uh R5 zone residential This is block 7125 lot 27 62 Garzania
Drive This is a for a six-foot fence and uh a pergola The applicant proposes 6 foot high fence and an 8 by10 pergola It's going to require a C variance Good evening sir The board attorney are you both going to testify no just me Just
Okay You know what I found in the past i can you she's going to join in anyway We're going to swear you both in Sure Sure Do you swear or affirm that tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes I do You heard my introduction to the gentleman that was here before you You're not represented by uh uh any
professionals correct no sir And you have no other uh exhibits that you want to show us no sir It's all it's all nothing other than what we have Just a few few photographs uh in case we'll see if we if you if you present them we'll mark them into evidence Well hold on
We'll we'll get to that point Um the same thing will apply Tell us what you want to do why you're here here for to ask us for permission to do that Uh you may have questions We'll have questions We'll talk to the professional again Right now there's no one in the
audience but I do have to open up a public portion Sure Absent that we'll come back to you If you want to call for a vote I will do so Yes sir Okay You can proceed sir Sure So good evening Good evening chairperson and good evening the board members So uh my name is Jabi Jaffur Lakhan Just push that mic a
little closer to you Thank you Is the green light on it is Yes Yes Um my name is Jabi Jaffur Lakhan and um I I'm I'm here in Old Bridge Uh for the last two years two and a half years I live in uh 62 Gazna Drive Um Old Bridge It's a new
community Oaks at Glenwood of Schumza Road Um we we are a family of uh four uh my wife here and two young kids uh four year old and and 9year-old and we we we've always dreamed of uh a singly single family home We we
we've been here in the US for u almost uh 7 years We've been living in the rented apartments now We we wanted our own home with with larger space backyard uh to to for our kids to play around So um given given the location of our
property now we don't have a much space on our backyard So all we have is the sideyard and um we wanted to make the most most of it Uh especially for the safety of our two kids and and also for privacy Um we would like to put a six ft
fence along the uh uh side of the property uh on the sideyard plus the pergola Um and and my wife she she would like to do gardening and while watching the kids play in the sideyard Um and and again um we we have notified all our uh
neighbors uh within to 20 ft Um and we have also notified the utilities and HOA We have uh uh personally reached out to the HOA board and asked for uh their approval They did respond to us If the township board approves they will they
will uh they have no no um issues I believe uh there was an email sent to to uh to us I don't have a copy of it but uh oh there it is Well it doesn't say much Uh but I'm I'm assuming this is
u do you know Miss Meer the Kristen Megane is the property manager Okay and and she uh reached out to the board members and uh she um pointed out the the response that she got from the board members saying if the township approves
they don't have any concerns I'm a little uh concerned about her wording in this Um um I can read this into the record Oh yes please Okay sure Uh this is dated uh April 18 uh April
16th at 20:07 p.m No hers is April 14 Oh I'm sorry She's down Yeah she's below April 14th uh 12:27 Uh this is subject Oak Glenwood for a fence It says "Hi Jaby C message I received from
board If t if township approves the variance I don't think board has any concern and that's Kristen Megarlin is that who you said property manager property manager
um that leaves a lot to be desired uh and I don't mean to make a joke out of it but if she's the property manager she has to state affirmative she's saying I don't think I don't I don't know what that means
Oh that that's see what what we usually ask for is a letter of no interest Yes sir Yes So the letter of no interest would be as this woman who's the property manager states that the association has no interest in this matter
Um I don't think leaves it a little bit vague to me Mr Dasty Uh I think if we wanted to be more certain and I think we should assuming for the sake of the discussion that uh we go forward and approve the application we can make it contingent upon a more solid letter from
the HOA and I'll reach out for them and tell them we want something a little more um definite and that would be prior to the resolution Oh yeah I'll send Yes Well not tomorrow but just early next week You'll have it before the resolution is going to be memorialized
All right Um you're a This is a I guess you'd consider this a corner lot It's a It's a curve This is It's a curve sir This is the new building homes off of Nine and Schindler Way right show me road shower road New Shop right behind the new shop rights Yes In the back yes
Yes All right Are they fully built out yet yes they are all full build The four faces Uh they're all fully built out there Yeah except in the middle They are currently constructing Well uh I was just concerned about um if there were neighbors already there You have neighbors on both sides of Yes Yes we
have neighbors I didn't visit the site so I don't I don't and and the the the the street ours is phase two of the entire community and that phase two has two two entrances to the street So you have you have photos there yes sir Why don't we pass why don't we see them and
pass them pass them around to the board Yeah Um sir would you tell me what would you describe what that is that's my backyard sir It's your backyard Yes sir All right Make it A1
Yep Okay A1's your backyard right pass that down Is this a picture just take it a little bit further away Yeah that's our side Yeah that's the side of your house On the side Yeah Me too Would you tell me i see there's It looks
to me Is there a fence back here yes sir That's my This is the other side of the house That's that's the sideyard That's the sideyard All right The fence is our neighbors that my neighbors friends we have we are we have an agreement to share uh the expenses for this All right
And would you describe that that's the sideyard of our properties This is your home yes That's our home Yes And that fence is your neighbor's fence
yes I'm assuming that's uh four foot Five foot That's a five foot fence Six foot I'm sorry Six foot That's a six Yes Doesn't look like that from before Um I believe to my knowledge it's a
sixoot fence for the neighbor Yeah Okay Um All right Let me ask Mr Hollahan to explain some things to us first Okay Mr Hollahan Yes So the applicant is here tonight seeking two C variances One for a fence in a front yard where um he's
proposing a 6ft solid fence where our ordinance only permits 4T high um and open fences Also an accessory structure in the front yard where no accessory structures are permitted Um although it is on a corner um it's not definitionally a corner lot because it
doesn't intersect two streets Um so everything along Gazania Drive where these structures are shown on the survey is in a required front yard So that's why the applicants here tonight seeking those variances Um with that being said
the um I also do want to note where the fence is proposed um is within a 4 foot wide utility easement I did have some conversations with the applicant prior to his hearing tonight Um and it's correct me if I'm wrong but you would relocate it outside of that easement Um
so about 4 ft back from the property line so that you're outside that easement unless you go to the easement holder um and gain approval from the easement holder to construct it in that easement I believe that was the gist of our conversation Correct yes Okay Um other than that yes it's just two C
variances One for an accessory structure in the front yard and then one for a 6ft tall solid fence in the front yard The yellow line that's indicated on it is that is that where the fence it's kind of yellow and green are interchangeable Yes But that's where
it's proposed So the dotted line just to the right of it um represent that 4ft wide utility easement If you look just kind of north of where the green line ends at the top um there is a call out for a 4 foot wide
utility easement which points to that 4 foot section between the property line into the applicant's property So you're going to bring it in closer to their home They're essentially bringing in closer to their own by 4 feet unless they get approval from the easement holder So the township's position is that we don't permit any structures in
any easements specifically ones that are owned by the township For ones that are owned by outside agencies we permit easement encroachments as long as they have approval from the easement holder on the side uh that curves Yes Um how close to the lot line is that
fence on the lot line it's right now proposed on the lot line Well the in the back it was got to be proposed but there's an but there's 4 foot easement right or that has to move in from the easement Are you talking about along Gazenia it's right now Not
uh or the one adjacent to lot 28 the parcel to the west technically top of the page So it's proposed on the easement line or it's I'm sorry proposed on the property line The reason why it cuts off where it does is that it's intended to connect into the neighbors
existing fence I believe Yes So the neighbor um to the north of the page has an existing 6ft vinyl fence that runs toward the um technically sideyard of the applicants property all the way to the back to the triangle portion Yeah So his fence would stop where it does on
the survey and then the neighbor's fence would then continue the rest of that sideyard property line to the corner of the back But his would end on his property line Correct The neighbor has one already you said Correct Yes And the variance is because it's a sixoot front
in the front yard Yes And is the red shed is that already there no No No That is a proposed pavola proposed and that's permitted where no No So he's here seeking a variance for an accessory building in the front yard as well It meets the setback requirement
of 3 ft off all property lines Um but it doesn't meet the requirement because it's in the front yard No the the pgola is not the fence is So the pole is proposed 4 feet from the front yard property line and then a minimum of 3 ft from the sideyard So it
meets the setback requirements The issue is it's in the front yard I'm a little confused Where's the 8 by10 pergola is it the red thing or is it the Moren do you have the laser pointer is it what's in red jerry what's the
question is the 8 by10 pergola What's in red right Yes Okay All right Okay Sure If it was the in the back Go ahead Just curious because now it's still in the 4T
easement area So the easement area runs here between this black dot between this black solid line which is a property line and then this dotted line The distance between these two lines is 4T which is called out here So this
structure is on the easement line but doesn't encroach into it The fence however encroaches into the easement line of conversations with the applicant he'd be willing to relocate it on the easement line As long as he doesn't encroach into it my office doesn't have an
objection to it being in an easement but we still have to get the letter saying that they can put it there If the applicant wants to put it on the property line he would be within this 4 foot wide utility easement which my office would then require him to get
authorization from the easement holder to encroach into their easement because this isn't a township own easement It's owned by the utility company most likely Verizon Um so unless Verizon or whichever utility company owns this easement gives him authorization he
would have to relocate outside the easement And we're looking at six foot here The reason you wanted that for for the privacy and privacy Yes sir Mr Dasty if if this were
approved the resol the resolution uh would have a condition that well this property manage management management company would supply your office with uh a letter of no interest Yes And also from what I'm hearing uh we would also
uh need um if the fence is going to stay where it is I guess he's going to need the approval of Verizon to leave it there Is that what you're saying correct I I I believe the applicant is you agreeing to move it in yes sir 4T Yes sir Yes I think the applicant would
either pursue a letter from the easement holder If they reject that then he's willing to then move it in Either way it would still be in the front yard and would still require bulk variance relief Got it Anything else Dan my only general
concern is this is a relatively um strong curve here So there could be potential um visual implications with kind of one car coming this way one car coming this way I would be much more comfortable
with the applicant relocating it at least the four feet back just to kind of alleviate that concern that I have because it's a relatively sharp curve there Um that would really be my only my only com on the arc you're talking about Correct Yeah So essentially in locating
it at least 4 ft back from the property line so it's not so up against where this sidewalk is because a car coming here may not be able to see a car coming around the bend this way At least pushing it back into the property line may alleviate that Do you think four
foot it would be four feet He would have to kick it in Yes Do you understand what what Yes sir I I do understand Yes Would you be willing to do that for the safety of uh your neighbors and anyone traversing on that street yes I I'm comfortable with that Okay So you won't you're not going to seek uh to
keep foroot back on the back are you no we we we as as as as you mentioned for the safety of the other residents we will we are willing to move forward And on the on the back line you're going to move that in away from the encumbrance there right property line Yes Yes So the
fence would essentially go from here to this dotted line and then follow the dotted line across and then reconnect into the corner of the house The pgola would most likely have to move a couple inches at least away from the fence Yeah Comply with the requirements for the pergola to be off the
Is that correct do you guys know what the height of the pgola would be no we have roughly Okay That just like we have planned for it but nothing is like Okay Okay I have no further questions to come We could max the height
My question was geared towards if it was 6 feet or less it would be hidden under the fence Um but being that they don't know it's most likely going to be higher than that Um but what is it about 10 or 12 usually about
10 Yep Um you' have consideration if you're going to do this that you don't want to have your neighbors view blocked by you know something too offensive and high Right That's what we were speaking about Yes Okay So it would be the normal and if they're normally 10 or 12 Yes sir
Okay Let me see if the board has any questions Sure I'm going to start on my left Mr Stoner Yeah I have a question Um you're going to use the same continuation of the fence that's there
already like the same fence Yeah same uh WEL because we the the HOA has a has a restrictions in in the the type of U fence Okay So we're going to use the same fence that the neighbor has Okay All right And and the and the fence um
on our backyard is shared by me and my neighbor Right Okay All right Thank you Does they have requirements on the the Okay White vinyl Okay Right Thank you Mr Um I'm I'm good Vice Chair
Yeah I don't have a problem Miss Mrs Andrews no Just on the condition that we Right Right Sorry No just on the condition that we receive a letter of no interest uh with regards to their their board Okay Mr
Dasty that seems to wrap things up Uh well there will be two conditions as I see them One is the HOA letter right and the second is to move the fence um I guess in four feet so that it's off it's not infringing on the easement on the
Verizon e and the the view four foot off back off of the lot line as it comes around on the uh curve Yes sir Yes Yes sir Okay Uh I have to publicly open a portion There's no one here but I still have I'm required to do
so Uh this is matter 5-2025Z Uh the location 62 uh Gazania Drive is for a 6ft fence and a pergola Anyone here in the courtroom wish to be heard please raise your hand or come forward There are no other people in the
audience this evening So I'm going to close the public portion assuming no one has anything to say Uh is there anything else you want to tell us no Thank thanks for the thanks chairman So if the board were to agree Yes uh to uh consent to granting the variance You would agree to
what the attorney just said Yes sir You would move that fence properly So the view wouldn't be obstructed You come off the back of the lot because there's uh an easement that comes through there I guess it's Verizon Uh as as we talked
about Yes And of course the pergola wouldn't be offensively high It'll be the normal build And that has to be three foot off each side of the fence Right at the size that it's proposed Yes So the setback requirement for accessory buildings is three feet up to 150 square
feet So as long as the structure doesn't go exceed 150 ft then the setbacks wouldn't change If it went above that you would have to push it more into the property Sure You understand all that yes sir Yes I understand Uh would you like me to take a a call for a vote yes
sir Please Thanks All right This is for It would be for two C variances Uh it's a 6ft fence in the front yard and uh this is a accessory structure uh right yes Yes Okay Uh and this would be a vote as per
the conditions that were introduced uh by Mr Dasty on the record Someone interested in moving this for approval Move it Is there a second andrews second It's moved and second Roll call please Mrs Andrews Yes MV conditions that we
mentioned Miss Chevier yes Mr Iso yes Mr Scogno yes Mr Stoner yes Miss Gomez yes Chairman Sullivan uh yes And of course Mr Dasty you want him to contact them and forward that to your office or forward it here and you'll get it the
HOA yeah I'll call him Well not tomorrow I'll call them Monday I'll get it and then I'll send it over to you then I'll take that with you Yes sir Thanks Okay My vote is yes Uh I believe we have a unanimous vote for you So it's approved Don't forget you have to get permits
They wouldn't be available until the next meeting May 1st when that resolution uh will be written and take effect Sure Sure Okay Yes sir Thank you both for your new home Yes sir I hope it's uh I hope it's many years of happiness there together Thank you very
much You and your family Thank you Thanks Good night sir Good night ma'am Good night Have a good night Happy Easter Thank you You same to you Uh board members that comes to the end of the meeting Obviously there's no one left in the courtroom tonight so
there is no general public comments I'll entertain any from the board quickly if anybody has I'll start on my left Anything none None None And on my right happy Easter Thank you And to you as well and all the
board members Mr Hollahan anything on your part no comments Happy Easter everybody Okay Thank you very much Mr Dasty No Happy holiday Our next meeting Moren is our next meeting is May 1st May 1st we'll be here Thank you all Uh someone move for an adjournment please Thank you
Is there a second yes All in favor signify by saying I I Any opposed we stand adjourned Happy Easter Happy Easter