got one minute surpris [Music] good okay good evening ladies and gentlemen and happy St Patrick's Day to all in compliance with the open Public's meeting law notification of this meeting
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the flag to the flag of the United States of America the stand One Nation God indivisible and justice for all would you please remain standing as councilwoman Miss sarrow leads us in
prayer tonight thank you Mr Mayor gracious and loving God We Gather before you this evening as stewards of our community seeking your wisdom guidance and strength as we begin this council meeting on this St Patrick's Day we ask that you fill our hearts with the same Spirit of Faith courage and service
that guided St Patrick throughout his life Lord grant us the wisdom to lead with fairness The Compassion to serve with kindness and the patience to listen with Open Hearts May our words be thoughtful our actions just and our decisions reflect the best interests of those who we are
entrusted to serve let this meeting be one of unity respect and progress where we work together for the greater good so as we celebrate the legacy of St Patrick who brought Faith and Hope to many we also ask for your blessing upon this
town and all who call it home may we be reminded of the richness of our shared heritage the strength in our diversity and the power of working together in harmony as we begin this meeting I offer an Irish blessing for you all in honor of my Irish family here and above may
God give you for every storm a rainbow for every tear a smile for every care a promise and a blessing in each trial for every problem life sends a faithful friend to share for every sigh a sweet song and an answer for every prayer Lord
guide guide us now and always in your name we pray [Music] all right we'll just do a little tweak to the agenda tonight and uh the first order of business is a proclamation to the nvot vars winter cheerleading team it's always an honor for myself and uh
uh for the governing body to uh uh to honor and recognize groups whether athletic groups um performing arts groups academic groups is that we can honor them tonight and and uh kind of do a shout out for your accomplishments there so I have a proclamation I'd like
to read tonight this is a proclamation honoring the northern Valley Regional High School at ultan Varsity winter cheerleading team whereas a northern Valley Regional High School at ultan Varsity winter cheerleading team made nvot history
again this year as I brought home two state championship titles at the njcd CA state championship at Brookdale Community College in Lin New Jersey on Sunday February 23rd and where as a team
achieved 2025 medium Advanced all music state champions and the group three state champions and whereas the team went undefeated in the big North conference and are the National division champions for the fourth consecutive year in a row and where as a team also won nationals
on March 1st at the cheer movement Nationals in Wildwood New Jersey where they earned the highest score of the whole competition making them 2025 grand national champions and whereas the northern Valley Regional High School at ultan Varsity winter cheing team has
distinguished themselves with character athleticism displaying the very epitome of sportsmanship and team ideals truly the most enthusiastic ambassadors lending privilege to themselves their school and the entire Community now therefore I Thomas
Gallagher mayor of the bur vol County of Bergen in the state of New Jersey on behalf of the mayor and Council and a residents honor the spirit determination and success of the northern Valley Regional High School at ultan Varsity competition cheerleading team and to hereby Pro proclaim the
admiration of our entire community and congratulate coaches rivian Stamos and Kristen Nelson and the entire team of Caroline Barry Hannah cologne adelin Krauss Presley sonier May Conway
Payton Kremer jayen Maz mazetti P peer Emily Perez Sophia redus Isabella San franell AA D'Angelo Avery
Duran Eve Lim Amari Lorenzo Emma Ali and Reagan Tama and I think I said AA d'angel I'm sorry was down at the bottom there so congratulations ladies congratulations can I get can I get a picture [Applause]
[Music] congrats Pink Ladies where's the coach can I sneak in the middle up here yes all right little room for me in the middle can we can we kind
ofer come right here's that this way everybody every [Laughter] good job girls congrats ladies nicely done not surprised sure it happens
[Music] occasionally got a few bigles yeah mostly from us so we will take a uh five minute recess in case there's homework to be
done if unless but you're welcome to stay for the rest of our meeting go to like 10:30 we have free Wi-Fi you congratulations again congratulations sure you welcome good job
you have any complaints do thanks gentlemen happy St Patrick that is never seen always yeah that's what happens all right you good Jesse would you do me a favor thank
you thank you okay I will uh I will entertain a motion to uh open a meeting to the public second okay would anyone from the public like to be heard on any matter tonight seeing none motion to close
second second we we have somebody that want please sir up to the front just name and address for the record we got to get on the mic sit down please
yeah it's uh Dan L sagorski one Clarks Smith Drive old pant please uh I uh I believe I wrote to all you guys regarding a uh noise ordinance concern M so I was hoping that uh something can be done in this matter
so I can avoid having another year and so on of complete Mayhem in my backyard so yes so I read your letter um passed it along to uh I think the police chief was was on there as well um B administrator was was on there as well
so Anna correct me if I'm wrong we um um we're having our attorney we're having our police chief made a couple of recommendations and we're having our attorney look at a couple of things on how we can kind of tweak our noise ordinance so we're not there tonight but we are
definitely looking at it so that letter was a week or so ago so we we uh our attorney here is taking a look at certain things and seeing if we can do some tweaks there to help you and your other neighbors in that problem may I
ask is it uh difficult to have a uh each vehicle equipped with a deal meter we've had this conversation not not necessarily just around that I think there are maybe you can you can correct me Bri but there's certifications you
need and there's yeah the operator needs to be certified and all the sound pressure meters need to be certified every so often so it's more than just having them equipped you need you know the right personnel and everything and I respect that I understand there's rules but I mean in my situation you know
they're playing at at around 100 to 110 DB and I'm about 600 ft away and I and the officers were at my house and we measured it at 65 DB I mean it's very easy to use 65 how how far are you away
or so so two police officers very loud and we were walking around the perimeter you know all we have to do is hit this you know the the on button and that's it you know it it just reads it's very easy to use and uh we were reading at 65 which is the legal limit in New Jersey for a noise complaint anything after I
was at 65 600 ft away but the police officer didn't understand between whether measuring it at their house or measuring at my house it's really uh about 25 to 50 ft from the uh noise origin not 600t so I just want to you
know let you guys know how much of a big problem it is for us I have my window shaking yeah this because the speakers are facing me it's not like if you're walking in front of the home you're going to get that type of effect but when you're walking behind the home where I am situated behind them I'm getting a pretty intense effect my
in-law is Liv right next to you I discussed this with my father in-law on at L and we came up with the idea of a deciel reader as well and the stumbling block was the keeping them up to date and keeping the officers trained and keeping
everything um you know officially official readings but I know it's a problem it's a problem for my father-in-law as well especially with his hearing aids gets a little crazy uh so I hope that there is something that we can do well we're going to after your letter we're going
to we've we've looked at this a number of times and then it's kind of gone away and we had an issue on Churchill okay way back your call it was the same house no that was was Mrs Boyer's son at call right and um he was down here and the
house on Ole Road was up here with speakers about as big as an elephant outdoor speakers pretty much facing this guy's house and it wasn't fair yeah and at the time we had this conversation you know sure that's what me would be great but the other attorney is going to say when was the last calibrated oh well oh
you know and so all those things were taken into consideration but this shouldn't go on is I mean you you wrote a letter I don't know two weeks ago 10 days ago whatever it was and we were in March 17th um this goes on all year long so what happens is I mean I'm not you
know I'm not stupid to the situation you have a high school kid coming home he does not care about the neighbors his parents are not home he blasts it at 3:30 blast when he comes home from school if he's not at some kind of practice or hanging out with friends he's coming home if it's nice enough outside over 50 degrees
or so he will blast the music at 3:30 if the parents aren't home in the weekend he will start at 12:30 because that's probably when he wakes up and he's had his breakfast and he's ready to go he will blast it now the parents come home they're a little bit oblivious because nobody cares about police coming by for 5 minutes them turning it down a few and
then turning it back up parents don't know about this cuz no one's telling them and obviously they're not going to find out on their own right but when the parents want to throw a party it pisses me off even more because it's been a whole week Non-Stop and when I call they get bent out of shape saying well it's just once in a while which I don't care
I don't mind yeah but it's it's you know so the weather's going to get nicer and I'm going to be paying for that every single day unless he has my life is dependent on a kid from high school can we uh Brian we have to come to some sort
of resolution I don't know what that is today um tweaking our ordinance buying these devices keeping them calibrated what I don't know what that means today but in the next month can we kind of come up with
some sort of plan to address this not only for this gentleman but for other uh you know I already have my my newsletter for April half drafted and and you're going to if you if you get my monthly newsletters it's it's definitely part of it is that please be considerate of your
neighbors um so I can't we can't answer you tonight um actually there is there is a model noise ordinance that you're obligated to uh adopt unless you get the D to endorse a different version of it
that you want to play so there is a model ordinance you could adopt it again it's just going to be getting people certified and making sure that the devices are calibrated that's what's going to be the and can I say a question you said did you already contact the
state after after uh last year cuz this has been going on since they purchased the house in 2022 last year it was every day for about 2 weeks the police were called you could look at the records um and I had it so in the morning before work because I wasn't going to wait till 2:00 or 3:00 in that summer time or
whatever it was I drove to the guy's house you know going onto his property I knocked in the door he was very nice and um I asked him hey you know what's going on you know can we can we work out something he's like here's my number text me if anything you know we'll work it out we had a nice conversation he didn't talk about any kids he just just
said you know we only we played on the holidays on Halloween you know maybe on Christmas or something he's like that's it he's like why are you getting all bent out of shape and I said well you know what I'm not going to tell him how to raate you know I just said listen I feel like you're playing it more than you think you are and he's like just let
me know so when he started playing I let him know he completely just you know he's not responding so here I am I'm trying to befriend high school kids to talk to this kid yeah and it's it's getting ridiculous so so I had a similar similar situation back door a neighbor right next door comes home same thing it
happened for a year and then he graduated and went to college so I was you know okay with so I let him go right for the summer but I felt like it was more the base of the of the sound that would shake my foundation and shaking your windows does the is the bass sound
picked up on that deciel reader is like no the bass sound I don't believe is uh is picking up because it's just the noise but the bass is the bass is pretty loud the profanity is very noticeable my four-year-old picks it up okay I mean it's it's like I'm playing music it's like I'm having a party I'm sure your
parents uh you know and I'm I don't want to be childish but I purchased 125 uh decel speaker the most powerful in the market I will set it up I no but I want you guys to shut me down fair enough I just want like because I I don't I've
never played it you know I've been here for eight years I don't play music I will play it every day to make them understand how much of a nuisance this is give us 30 days understood please is there somebody at the county that could take a look at this also maybe the sheriff's department the the county actually the health department of the
county has qualified people and the sound pressure meters and they will send somebody out the problem is they're not responsive like we are they're tough to get at night and they're tough to get on the weekends which is probably when you're mostly having the trouble it's going to be when better weather comes and it's coming and it's you know the
the anxiety of anticipation of it occurring at any it's just the first nice day of the year it occurred and it just it I you know I told my wife this is I I'm sure this is finally like done it's not but the first day it hit 62 it was blasting and I was just you know I
spent $1,500 on a stupid speaker ready to go because I want them to understand they don't they don't think I don't think they appreciate how loud it really goes and travels well the problem also is it's flat open space over that little tributary to the reservoir and in any open space like that the soundways
amplify and that's why you hear it the back so it's your backyard is on Clark Smith and they are back their front of their house is green right their back us there's a big empty it's that big empty I looked on like the parel to see
so I know yeah so it hits me pretty hard I'm sure it hits them a little bit my neighbors on the other side there's like what are we going to do they they don't want to end up in a situation where they're fighting with people but I I just there's nothing else I can do they're already fighting with me in a sense I can't you know what am I supposed to do so my wife pissed off I
mean this is this like like so that's it's stressful it's very cuz it's not 2 weeks it's been 2 years and now we're on the [Music] third I don't know what it is today but I'm asking for 30 days um we'll have our attorney look into it we'll take a real hard look at our ordinance we'll have
our police chief uh give some input um I'll talk to him tomorrow yeah I'm not I'm I'm not being sens no you're I can handle it it's just you know I'm sure oh it's enough is enough they've called you it's greatting yeah so all right all right Dan I
appreciate the time thank you have a great evening thanks for coming in thanks for coming in uh would anyone else from the public like to be heard on any manner motion close second in favor I okay moving on to um a resolution tonight uh for
council president boy veteran friendly municipality program so I think maybe this requires a little bit of a discussion beforehand possibly at the last veterans meeting um our chairman once again requested that our town be
dedicated as a v friendly Town um part of that as I told everybody last week requires uh to proactively notify veteran owned businesses of public bids and opportunities good faith effort to award 6% of Municipal contract dollars
to veteran-owned business businesses for contracts awarded to veteran businesses uh we request 6% of subcontractors to be veteran owned businesses um that's the first three of 10 I guess
um c not caveats but parts to this I think in order to get ourselves approved at as these are only suggestions they're not like mandates you don't have to include all of this in our own resolution and I believe that Brian had suggested that if we start to
open ourselves up to 6% of veterans then what other groups would come to Old depan requesting um standing standing there are other groups that are favored under the law that could have similar requests like that yes right and we we
very much want to acknowledge our veterans and want them to um you know be included in all the bidding opportunities in town but not necessarily the expense or need to notify every other group that possibly could be in standing and then create
another resolution for them could be endless so how do we uh councilman I wasn't as much concerned about notifying them that's clearly that's easy enough to do what I was concerned more about is that the law actually allows you to award contracts to veteran owned
business that are not the lowest bidder oh so that's where I have a problem I wasn't sure that the council would want to go in that direction lowest bid or lowest qualified bidder well they're all low as qualified yeah they would have to be qualified in order to well not always
lowest qualified just almost every bid we have is lowest qualified no no that's the way it should be written no question about it but some some you know are not qualified what you need right but they veteran own and I'm not saying this is right or wrong but
they can get preferential treatment even if their bid isn't the lowest it can be awarded to them based upon his statute so as long as they qu yes so again I just want to make sure the council that's under the set aside for yes
okay now also I think I written there in good faith so talk to me about good faith if you will like in good faith we're going to try and give this contract to a veteran owned business right well I mean obviously if if no
veteran own business applies there's really not a whole lot you can do yeah I mean I guess you would have to look at them and determine uh for example if if there's a wide do something or do they I mean how that goes to qualifications so they have to be qualified but again if
they're qualified you know you you should probably have at least some understanding amongst the council that you're going to award it to a veteran on business as long as they're within say a certain percentage of the lowest bid you know just just there should be I think some objective criteria that you're
going to use so that everybody knows what you know what so this doesn't yet have that objective criteria in it it only has um 6% of the total contract bee awarded to qualified veteran subcontractors and veteran right so it
doesn't then say you know within a certain percentage of the lowest bid right does that that have to be public information that percentage I think it would it would only be fair that yeah that that a bidder would know that and the public would know that
sure right and many of the other um things we already do we already hire employees we already have preferred parking it's really that's I guess the sticking point a parer that was the only thing that I saw that I thought the council would want to really discuss more than some the other things you have
done most of the other things already so if we could craft maybe not right here right now but if we could craft a percentage of the lowest bid I'd be happy to was so in spirit I guess from the from the council standpoint uh are we in favor of
of such a uh ordinance I guess it's become an ordinance are we in favor of such an ordinance providing that there are some guard rails as you said in regards to can't have someone to come in at 50% higher and they say well I'm veteran so I'm going to get the job so
and that I I would I would think does that go towards employment as well so we're going to I'm just making up a scenario we're going to look for a new DPW laborer please give your uh three people uh three people um
apply is one of them is a is a vet is that kind of automatic now it's it is if you're a civil service Community we're not so um it can be taken into account though however yeah so to answer your question I don't
know about everybody else I'm favor of it um the state already has a program like this so take uh Jersey City for example you uh you apply for a police job you're a veteran you get Veterans Preference this is not Veterans Preference we're just
saying that hey if you're a veteran owned business we're going to look at it and you're you know there is a chance that you could get this even if you're not the lowest bidder is what we're expecting okay couple things what if I'm that next bidder okay
and I'm not a veteran I mean I'm not anti- veteran of course but would that kind of run me the wrong way well it's not unusual It's Not Unusual practice you know it's women own businesses yeah that's fine that's one of your other favorite categories yeah yeah and and what if you're like XYZ Corporation and
you have 10,000 employees but your CEO is a veteran does he does that count if he's signing the corporate documents that's probably get it I think there was some qualif I know the plumber licensed plumber's wife runs
the business right so she it's they get credits for she's a veteran no women got it I'm sorry either way if if we back up and look at the Spirit of this program which I read a little bit about it speaks to Veterans not necessarily
having had the networking opportunities and therefore this would really help them um get into the business of whatever we're providing as uh opportunities so it spoke to not having opportunities not having the networks I imagine that after a few
projects they might have networks and opportunities but this just helps initiate that once again Bill I'm I'm just reading as a colel in the Army I'm I'm veteran friendly of course but tell me what opportunities do I have that a veteran
somebody in Iraq and other people were here networking inter it's hard to network when you're there and not here that's fair point so I I think it's consistent with the type of town we are becoming right we're more veteran friendly Etc so if I'm that bidder that
just lost out I go into that bidding process understanding that ultan is veteran friendly and that I might lose to a veteran bidder okay right if we were not and all this all of a suddenly you know this comes up it right this is
consistent with who we are so I feel like it's out in the open you know we we have our veteran we Flags or you know we we do a lot for our veterans here in town and that is and as you bid you go into this eyes wide open and if you lose you know you understand actually it might spur on a little bit of
competition because if I know there's a qualified veteran that might you know put in a bid and I'm putting in a bed and I that bid is allowed to be a little bit higher and they might get the job I might sharpen my pencil a little bit more just as far as hiring though like
we we hire we've had quite a few veterans that are police officers and retired police officers that I've known All My Life um they served served in uh Afghanistan came home did two tours came home got hired
here on the police force he wasn't not given opportunities that everybody else everybody else had the same opportunity he had he wasn't slighted it matter of fact his service helped him get because when we're
interviewing for let's say a police job is said well this guy understands rank he understands protocol he understands top down and that might be good you know so he already has you might say a leg up I would say probably most of the time yes yeah and and he certainly checks a
box for me if I'm interviewing in that position so then you're for it I I am for it but not I I I I when you say they don't have the same opportunities that's where I don't agree well can I just bill you made a great point before and I'm so far removed from it this has been 25 plus years but you're you're right when
you're deployed 3 4 5 years you come back somebody mentioned Plumbing you start your plumbing business you are four or five years behind the curveball so you want to catch up your business so anything anything that gives you a little bit of an edge and again we're not saying you're a vet you're
definitely getting this job we're saying you're a vet hey you know what we we're going to look at you a little a little bit more that's it I think that's what we're saying and I think that's very fair which is I guess in words how do we say how do we put in words what you just
said That's you but yes I agree with what did you said I agree 100% it's just we want to make sure we're protected um we need gu rails as you I don't want to get into a problem later on no you're right so ethically or or
legally or anyway so this is at the same time protect the veter spirit we want to move forward with this let's just uh fine-tune it yep okay can there um other set of side prog vets that we can take a look at and see what other municipalities or cities have done I I I
think the program is out that long but I'm going saw the town to list it but there are a lot of bigger cities and I think read oh you said he didn't but was pamis on that list oh I don't know I know that there's nine of I believe 74 municipalities that have adopted this
thus far my memory serves I think pamus was on the list yeah I don't know if they've implemented other guide rails it'd be interesting to see if they have I know I didn't have anything to do with it so they must have done it years ago it seemed as though they adopted it in kind like in the
original form but I appreciate that suggestion yeah let's just fine tune so that we're protected again I don't think there's anyone sitting up here to you know tonight that says no another item on the list was uh discount on licenses
and fees yeah that's something we do what what else I mean what kind of licens and fees can we discount we do give them free this says licens and we do yeah you're right and there isn't there tax isn't there a tax
Inc right tax break for veterans y but that's that's a state road it is it is promote awareness of State fee exemption for local metering parking we don't do that really much um there's a lot of things dog licensing I we I know first
we responders used to get discounts on Rec fees I think we can tailor this a little more specifically to old depan because we don't have any you know permit fee waivers or but we sure do have a one annual Patriot Day public celebration honoring a service of a veteran on
Memorials Day Memorial Day veterans day for the anniversary of 911 so let's just tailor it a little bit more closely waving fees or or giving discount on on fees like building inspection or whatever totally in favor of that that's not competing with
someone else all right and we can craft this however we want we're just we're getting closer free you know Recreation kid and softball whatever great go for it okay all right thank you
um need two meetings or one meeting to kind of so uh Anna we'll get down on um 21 how good am I on my calendar ail 2st second meeting in April second meeting in April be
way okay if it's all done yeah [Music] okay okay thank you good discussion um moving on to the uh consent resolution uh council president voice thank you Mr Mayor be resolved that the following
resolution placed on the agenda by consent requires no discussion of the same having been previously R reviewed by each council person B and are hereby adopted in their entirety by the mayor and Council of the burough of vol depan authorized transfer of 2024 budget
appropriation reserves temporary emergency uh resolution addition of Prior year sewage charges change order number one DPW Annex uh storage garage and losap award for
fure any um a second on it second any discuss discussion on our consent resolution what's the low W forer there was someone that was a u EMS member that resigned from the core they were not vested so that money is returned to the
burrow got it my my other the adding storage garage what was that um I I read it but what was that for oh I wanted to ask that was for um additional insulation inside the annex garage just improved insulation just to keep uh heat
retention better the tin can won't hold I think it it may have also been for bathroom I didn't hear what you said there they said the tin can won't hold the heat so I got you all right thank you well I read it as project was supposed to start in the
summer late Summer Don't early fall or so don't hold me to that and it didn't get started for whatever reason so we bought winter concrete which was more expensive and a heavier insulation uh anybody know why we walk heavier insulation isn't because we did
the job in the winter it's just to keep it warmer but we're always going to do the building was always going to be in use in the winter agreed so all right so that's I don't think it had anything to do with when the build the Joba started but the concrete did concrete did I would think okay so an you had a
little yeah it's it's here it's for the concrete uh I thought it was for the bathrooms but it's not um there is a difference in the price and the concrete uh and ceiling installation costs yeah so with concrete
you have to have an additive in the winter so it's less likely to crack yeah um yeah I know I get it but we didn't you shouldn't have built it in the winter yeah okay screw there and the insulation to me is just that all right
I don't care if we built it on July 4th when it's 100° we knew it was going to get cold right but they did have a savings in concrete so the the installation would cost more but it since they don't need the concrete that
they need they're actually getting a saving so it's costing them only half of the cost that was completely confusing what you just said but they're applying the savings on the concrete to the insulation why did we get savings on the concrete spe concrete but they didn't
need it because they built it in the summer that was what I I thought we put we used expect is there such thing as summer concrete and we built it in the winter so we need a winter concrete right so where does Discount come from I the all
right it's winter concrete with $10 a yard for hot water $10 yard non-chloride accelerator time anyway it's 3600 material cost finishing labor um was another 3360 so the total cost was
6960 then partially removed the aprons um they took some so that was a cost Savings of $112,000 and then the ceiling installation was 126 and says total concrete savings as
outlined above is 5,6 73,000 I heav your sweatshirts and I went to May save this little okay uh there was a change order number one um Jen let's just ask that there won't be a change order number
number two I will make that suggestion Mr Mayor okay I think we had a uh motion and a second we had a couple of questions on that just another question Mr Mayor please uh sewer charges were the I saw there were four on the list
were they all notified the residents okay the amounts didn't seem to be much so is this something we could actually warn them about before we pass it I think it's basically it's part of
our so they got the 2025 first half billing which is the normal amount and this is just giving us permission to go retroactive it was an issue not an issue but it's like a gap between building department and notifying us and us getting our billing out so to stay consistent with what was done in the
past what the resolution of charts and back be for the time they used in 2024 okay so it's only going back six months or well the ones you have I believe they're small yeah okay and these are new connections or new owners or so
that's part of the problem they're not consistent in supplying the finance department with like they should tell us once they're already connected so once they're connected we know that we should be building we don't get the notification we can't build them so now we'll get the person that said hey my
neighbor got a bill so now this is become normal my neighbor got a bill I didn't get a bill like everybody scrambling it what do you mean then that's how we to find the additional people by understanding we're moving to a better more efficient way on that right we're working on it we're in the office the Fishbowl basically depend on
information that come from Department still we need to be notified when they are actually connected to se to actually start building them we have to be notified some kind of something like you they had the inspection y they're lock there in that's it they should be paid and we'll start charging them once take
get their the other the the other whether they have SE or not they're hooked up to the that can't be hard to do it's a matter of is it's two separate departments so while the building department is doing their own work it's
not like on the top of their mind oh I have to go tell the finance department that this happen there's there's nothing on the computer that actually both of them so they're working on making that better to you we start to use the correspondence that we got from bcua and
that L us down the rabbit hole because the letter we get from bcua says that the resident has been has supplied the payment and not as should reached the building department so now okay you notified bcua got your fee you can go ahead and go to the building department
but we W know that the building department notification so that's we'll tighten things up yeah we're working on it all right every time we think we got it it's okay second so I think I had a motion and I think we had a second and we had
lots of discussion uh roll call please okay councilman V yes councilman Boy Yes councilman Guan yes councilman Martin yes councilwoman M yes councilman you yes all right moving on to our Council committee reports we'll start with councilman U thank you Mr Mayor really
not much to report today um I spoke to the department heads in length I'm happy to report that our DPW and construction departments are running status quo um our seniors are greatly looking forward to their upcoming trips and that
concludes my report Mr Mayor thank you uh councilwoman Miss Arrow thank you Mr Mayor um Recreation met March 4th continued discussion of upcoming spring Sports and opening day Saturday April 26th Fire Department in the past two
weeks since our last meeting the department has responded to 12 make that 13 now make that 14 in 14 days uh very active last two weeks including a working residential fire and two motor vehicle accidents they also responded early Sunday morning yesterday as Mutual
Aid the closer for two alarm fire our Fire Marshall conducted one investigation this month with the cause attributed to candles youth Council thank you to Michelle and Matthew and attendance tonight I met March 6 with them I asked for volunteers for 10 day
and for ideas and help with running the snack stands this spring we discussed the tennis ball project the Orangetown update and they continue to ask questions and give suggestions for pedestrian safety uh they also uh du telling this
onto the historical committee historical committee met Tuesday March 11th and we discussed our plan to host the Veterans for a movie or documentary event in the fall we also discussed that youth Council has agreed to help clean up the ultan cemetery this summer
which is an active project we will be working on together with the historical Committee of the youth Council and lastly Town Day committee met Wednesday we had a productive planning meeting and we will be adding additional activities this year we are always looking for volunteers and sponsors so reach out to
Gloria and or me if you would like to join or sponsor an event thank you Christine if I could um you talking about the the cemetery by the reservoir yeah yes on Washington on the right um I know that Trinity has an annual day of
they go clean it up so you might want to contact past Kiren thank you for need I'll send you herself thank you that would be very helpful I know we wanted to do it in the spring but with youth Council schedule they said we can in the summer when
we're off school but if she already has something set up and it's whatever day the week goes Saturday it's also not borrow owned anymore so I don't know if there's permission needed from whoever owns it I don't know who owns it erson family owned it I I
don't know where it went to we were we were approached years ago Todd erson who I went to school with appro asked me do we want to take it over and at the time uh our attorney Alan Bell said you don't want that headache between the Board of Health and the state health and all the
things that you need to know for Cemetery you don't want it and then I don't know what happened okay so why don't I contact P first and I'll send you I'll text you right now thank you I appreciate that yep okay uh councilman BAGI yes Mr Mayor
police report uh couple of things on 25th of February a residential burglary was was reported to the Tim Police Department on pineh Hill Road the burglary took place sometime over the weekl long period while the home own
home was unoccupied suspects removed a window pane from the first floor bathroom window to gain entry into the home at the time of this report the proceeds seem to be jewelry items and a laptop the case is currently under investigation with the BR County Sheriff's Department no arrests have
been made I could bore you with all that other stuff about permits and all that stuff but I think I'm going to skip that this week just G to go right to uh a couple other things if you Washington Avenue right by har
there were two signs installed uh crosswalk but once that that you walk up and press and it lights up well tractor trailer hit a wire and took them down and took down the sign a week after it was installed um was the wire too low it was only a a
cable wire it wasn't electric was the wire too low was the truck too high nobody knows so I think we're going to submit it to the GIF if I'm not mistaken Anna well what okay well talked to the police chief today yeah little signs cost something so i' like $3,300 okay so
I said you know we should probably submit it to the GIF okay Jeffy will chase the truck drivers's insurance company you will be uh be be ready for that I know what they going to do uh also uh delivery came today of two new signs that are going by the high
school uh same signs press the button they light up that'll be that'll be happening and where are they going by the high I'm not sure exactly where you know miss high school crossing War lady that's quite I believe Anna was on that
same email I believe one is at Elena Drive yes across Central and the other is no but both of them are not for that area yeah one is for there one is going to go right by uh I don't want to say by Jimmy Butler's
old house but because nobody knows where that is CW right in front of CDW right uh where the crossing guard is in front of CDW right there s there's going to one there so and the other will beol I don't know where so there will be a crosswalk eventually there will let's do
they have to approve it wait to the county I know that but yes maybe two potential Tom's not here but they have to approve that will they put that sign in will they allow that sign without a crosswalk put a
regular sign in but if we want to do anything it's up to us okay like just like these were up to us the one the signs are up I didn't think you the electronic signs I don't think you could put the electronic sign in if it didn't have part A crosswalker no you can't you can't there no crosswalk you're not
going to put right right so that was my question kind of so we'll get the crosswalk and then we'll put our new sign up yes if we put a um if the crosswalk gets approved can there be a sign put around the bend kind of like a warning that there's a crosswalk I mean
down by Wy Creek mhm yeah I don't yeah cuz I've seen them guess I'm just trying to remember where I've seen it because if I do I'm going to take a picture of it but I've seen those where kind of like flashes like that thing on by Exit 4 as he coming out of New York on 9W and it says red light ahead yeah yeah yeah
so it kind of gives you some sort of indication I don't know uh can you follow up you build up speed right a warning sign on a on a follow up with Tom scrael once we have to find out which right so and then once we do we
can figure where those okay okay um this week we took delivery of a Dodge Charger so we have another police vehicle uh being upfitted guy is Guy Kaz is getting it all uh registered he's doing that tomorrow so it'll be on the
road soon okay um as you're all aware we're hiring a new police officer um the application submitt is happens uh it's over at the end of the week and he was hoping to get nine app ANS uh excuse me
10 applicants he has nine so that's a good sign okay um so they're we're going to be we'll be interviewing at some point uh also he was speaking to me today about remember if you recall we
spoke about uh not a lot of people applying we we've had this conversation on this St uh police chief told me to NYPD just lowered their lowered their standard of
what you need to apply and some towns we're not one of them but some towns now do not require college they just require high school because it gets you a bigger pool everyone might have their pluses or minuses about that I I don't have a
problem with that because I know we've had police officers here in alapan that have been exemplary that only had high school no college but that's that's a personal personal uh subjective opinion uh I'm not saying we should do that I'm just
saying some towns have because it gets your bigger pool because there's there's not a lot of people applying once again um this this profession seems to be not in demand all of a sudden not all of a sudden in the last two years especially
hasn't been uh so some towns are are waving their college requirement NYPD has lowered their standard you still need college need less I don't know exactly what it is but for the NYPD to lower it it's a it's a big deal and
finally I got a note from a borrow resident whom some of us know from Mrs Tina kelter this afternoon I called the OT otpd for assistance and officer Nicholas antonucci responded to help with his kindness and consideration he assisted
this old lady with an issue of modern technology needless to say he fixed my reason for calling with with respect and understanding and I appreciate it very much he installed toner in her printer how lucky you are to have
Nicholas as a member of the otpd thanks again Tina kelter may stop the VCR from blinking or something mine still okay that's all I have for tonight unless somebody has a question for we're GNA hire one police officer we're hiring
two we I thought we had two positions it's just a question we were we hired that one just now uh two months ago yeah two months ago looking to hire two at that point though we were right and then we
had we hired one we had one leave now we're going to hire another one so now we're going to have to hire another one after that we're going to need two right yeah we are going to need two I don't know where we left that in the budget I forgot where we left that in the budget too we definitely have room for one so yet to be decided the chief thinks you
know if we have one we'll be able will manage the schedule okay two would be nice I thinket what we went into either late last year or last year was it was it two so now yeah we we placed
one of them sobody still down one after oh yeah all right I I'll find that out 10 minutes okay anything else for uh our police Lea on
okay uh councilman Marty thank you mayor uh nothing really with uh first aid not until the next meeting and nothing to report on the schools except for they are still in contract negotiations uh Board of Health
um they are having a mental health uh book club meeting on Tuesday April 18th at the ultan public library from 7 to 88 uh and their book is Cal your with food what with food which they tend
to do pretty well so yeah so that's the uh that's going to be uh the book uh for the month um they're going to have a discussion with uh Mr Brian Greco who's a clinical social worker and uh Dr baa will also be leading that so if anybody's interested
by all means um they also last meeting I had mentioned that they were looking at doing a blood drive um I reached out to Anna um and in lightening speed she um actually facilitated everything for the Board of Health so we are going to be having our first uh blood drive of the
year on Monday April 21st from 4: to 7:30 again sorry CH the date might change to the I got you once that date is set could someone just remind me that put you'll send
something oh yeah it'll be out all over the place okay and I'll put it in my uh monthly newsletter great so yeah thanks for doing that I appreciate that was quick uh so that's that with the Board of Health uh also uh Anna um U helped me
out with this so I had reached out to the motor vehicle Comm on my list was going to it's going to be it's actually a great thing because uh I had some uh my wife actually had to use it um but anyway um Motor Vehicle Commission will be here August 19th from 9:00 a.m. till
what they say on at 2:30 or figure 9 to 230 99 to 3 um and it's going to be by appointments uh Anna had set up a um a flyer which will have a um barcode on it I believe or a um a link where people can schedule um and
anything besides taking a road test anything you do with the Motor Vehicle Commission you could do here um which is great um so it it'll be one day um looking hopefully uh next year we can get them here a few more days um and I think this will be a big benefit to the
seniors and um to anybody really um so yeah and that is the real I know there's question we confirmed you do real timing a month yeah 30 days out set okay so that Sor April so it'll
be April 19th at 9:00 a.m. August sure August 19th day the week I'm me see if I can get them no uh that is a Monday or Tuesday Tuesday thank you so yeah you need an appointment if you want to get your real ID any registration renewals um you can get your initial permits if
uh any of the high school kids um any you know just County non- Driver sorry State non-driver IDs and um regist um excuse me registration titles you could do that you don't need an employment if you want to uh surrender license plates uh handicap veteran plates heart
placards um things like that so it's actually I'm looking forward to it I think it's going to be great for for the residents is good um okay also let's see so uh assembly meno actually put me in contact UM after
speaking with him with the vice president of the New Jersey food Council um if you don't know what they do um the New Jersey food council is actually U they're an alliance uh for food retailers and um suppliers um they it's a membership and
what these folks do is they advocate for anything that has to do with let's say Supermarket suppliers or what have you the membership uh after meeting with uh you know I was on a phone call with the vice president marielen pepper she said she's going to put this out to her
membership to see if there's any interest and I'm hoping just to spark a conversation if there's any interest for um a supermarket if this is a location that they would like if there is then maybe everyone here can help me out putting them in contact with the right
people just to even make a connection and who knows what can yeah I mean that's that's the point I'm hopeful that you know the owners of the property are interested in maybe building that hope so yeah uh I did uh I just to add on to that um and I don't know um you know one
of the uh store owners Bice that I was having a conversation with I frequent uh their facility often and I know that when they signed a lease and they signed a long lease um in the lease for them it said that there was a food store coming
uh because that would increase wood traffic for them sure and I think there's a little bit of um I don't know there's mixed feelings there cuz it hasn't happened yet and so hopefully this least absolutely so yeah so hopefully we'll see what
happens with that um did you guys get an email I wasn't sure uh you know CU we reached out to the office from um Josh gimer you did it right something came in just today yeah so hopefully I mean that's if you guys are aware of it I just wanted to bring it up I was going to share it but for the community Project funding I think Adam would
probably Congressional funding yeah we're applying yeah my my mind's like let's get that fire truck well we're applying for the first state for we're applying for the fire department we were going to apply for
the uh Pump Station also you can apply up to three this problem is because I think Federal funding kind of getting kind of tight yeah well they did our grants people just don't feel really that let's put our name in the ring
right all right very good that's it thank you okay thank you um thank you Mr Mayor uh a few updates here OEM first of all OEM no update uh in finance do we have the final budget meeting date April 1st April 1 so
everyone note that oh yeah you please yeah April 3 we didn't hear that and that would be like a fiveish at night is Tuesday that'll be at Tuesday we have enough money to Bud buy us dinner some food would be nice well do
you want it as a calendar Prov just send you an email saying that it's that date yeah I'll take the email because I don't use that calendar as my yeah fiveish five okay and I'll comment in on in a
minute when I get to my report okay on Jeff's comments and stuff okay you um for safety it's a quarterly meeting March 19th uh Andy has sent around job site observation form to the Departments uh in terms of the library
few updates here we had a board meeting uh five days ago on the 12 uh first of all the number of patrons in February was down 31% uh that's for a couple of reasons one February has 10% less days than January uh and the second
remember uh for one week I was closed for the carpet so that makes 31% is about that number so that makes sense um terms of parking lot uh the paving uh they're still considering uh the
town's um using the town contract right about $33,000 for the milling and ashalt and then 10,000 for the striping in addition they mentioned maybe DPW was going to help with the striping no
okay um they were going to get more quotes like they usually do for most of the bidding but then I I said well the town went through a bidding process right well we that is an estimate we have not gone out to yet so but and as I told them that
was almost it was a little bit on the high side just to make sure it could come under got it all right so you're still in communication with them and they're still considering um and they will get other bits then uh in terms of fundraiser uh the highest priority
fundraiser here looks like a merchandise uh sale and they're going to start with canvas bags uh selling them about $18 each and that those proceeds would go towards uh getting a water bottle filler in the library right you put your water
bottle and fill that with the water and then also a possible digital sign outside the library so those are the two things that they would like to get a fundraiser to help um with those two items they identify a model number on that water filler just let me know I
might be able to Source One thank you appreciate it uh also in terms of buying books remember Kimberly came from the Palisades Park Library System uh looks like we're going to switch to a new distributor who is faster and cheaper in terms of getting
new books we've had a a lag six Monon 9mon lag for a new book uh but this distributor uh and they're called Ingram is faster and cheaper than the one we have uh for printers they're looking to either purchase or lease probably
lease um uh they're also looking uh oh they had the buckles Wi-Fi installed and then Ron you might want to help me with this but the former librarian uh or head librarian Norma Boer uh has passed away February 23
third she was 95 years old she lived in CR she grew she she was a resident here for many many years uh Bob Boer was a member of the of the uh he was a veteran but he was also he was an ear doctor he was also a member of the senior citizens committee quite
quite active and uh and Mrs boy actually have a picture of her giving my daughter who's now 45 when she was eight she won the read the most books of the summer award picture Norman my handing or the plaque so she was the sweetest
most gentle Lady of she'll she'll be missed I February 23rd weeks yeah February 22nd was her February 23rd oh really was her February 22nd was herek yeah and so the family actually asked if they could use the library uh for her
her memorial service which is on April 5th I think it's a private service but they're going to use the back room for their private Memorial okay I mean no you know no Cofe or anything that but just a memoral son lives in in Los Angeles so yeah yeah
okay um that's the end of my report Mr Mayor well could you do me a favor sure um I'd like to see the the the regulations so we we approved as part of our budget Capital are the uh two additional fire sirens if you for a
better sense and I know we went away from the top did you know like you know to put out messages and stuff like that we discussed you know who's going to hear them and who's not going to hear them and things like that um we've lived with one fire
siren since I was Chief in 2002 um I'd like to just see the regulations that say we actually need those other two or if it's one of those suggested things or um not saying I'm
for or against but with with phones now with the pages that we appr which are expensive uh would that be a state regulation I I think Gandy said it was an O requirement but like to learn more about that before maybe
we Rend that money yep I'll ask Andy we'll do okay A little little more clarity on that thank you definely um thanks for council president Boyce thank you Mr Mayor uh so the
environmental commission is meeting tomorrow um we look forward to actually hearing from the landscape architect who's working with the applicants landscape architect for 24 world and road so we can come to a final agreement on how uh you know what's fair in the
town receiving for trees mitigation so that's tomorrow um on the planning board we're really looking forward to meeting with John Zabo again to go over our uh master plan it's been a bit of a challenge to get in touch with them need a little help on
that I have a comment when I a minute right we appreciate that the golf course I saw people playing golf on Saturday that looked good I think uh like the library were probably down more than 31% in February it was a little chil but they're out there playing again which is nice we
have poured the irrigation pad um so that we can put the new irrigation pump house on top of it that should be happening soon I have a meeting with Anna and the superintendent and also the manager tomorrow at 11:00 to review the
plans created by the golf course architect for the sand traps I just want to know where they are in advance so I appreciate that meeting with a sand I know exactly where my I know
exactly where my ball go ball is exactly it's not going to help no it won't help anyway um and then um last but certainly not least we lost a very important founding member of
our veterans committee Steve Petrelli I know some of us attended the funeral he was one of the founding members i l seeing him he was extremely appreciative of being a part of the veterans committee we all loved him and
I I'll never forget when he uh was at the memorial day indoor um dedication for His Banner when he said I love you all so much I wish I could give you a big giant hug with my arms were long enough so I'll never
forget that um you will be missed and irreplaceable with that I conclude my report okay thank you uh a couple of comments from me tonight uh kind of inform a all over the place here so um
so the ongoing fourth around uh you know affordable housing as everyone on the council knows we submitted our number to fair share haven't heard much from fair share uh I guess since then the uh New Jersey Building New Jersey Builders Association decided to jump in and
decided to sue 155 is uh 158 was close 158 uh municipalities that challenged their number with with their share uh that doesn't seem I don't want to jinx it doesn't seem there's a lot of behind that that uh lawsuit that from some of
those meetings that we've been on so it's still current uh we're still uh I guess served with litigation if I'm saying that right and yeah challenging our numb we'll we'll we'll address it but um I think we're pretty optimistic that uh we're okay there
um I attended the pasak valley oh going back so staying on that subject so I did uh sent an email to our planet John Zabo today um well I was getting a little nervous that deadlines are approaching and I'd like to kind of know where we're at and he know he had a couple of things
there he was going to have things pulled together by April and this and that so he's uh he promised that he was on it and that he would have our housing element plan if I'm saying that right pull together but we have some things to chat about you know on on what we need
we we probably will have a fairly large unmet need there's just no land here to build on there's a couple of things we can do so I did kind of prod him a little a little bit and say um please make them feel less nervous that we could have a meeting sooner than later
um so um so that's that's moving forward he he promised that that he would uh I attended the pasek valley mayor's monthly meeting and uh a couple of topics that came out of that very late in the meeting uh state senator shapy
stopped by uh with a lot of Doom and Gloom that um energy costs are going to Skyrocket in July uh she was kind of coaching or um the mayor uh that I hope your budgets have have um uh are plan for 20% increases in
natural gas water electricity um I the questions why they're going up so much when you know we have a president in the White House that said energy Independence and all that stuff and you know kind of said there were plants that taking offline
and then not yet back online and they might not be back on line so she was just cautious that some of her energy costs May R May uh rise in the second half of uh 2025 uh she also uh kind of confirmed what Anna had just said is that federal
and state funding grant funding is going to be really tough to come by um you know in the in the foreseeable future so U if we're planning something in alapan and banking on state or federal funding
we might not think about doing that initiative in alapan um I think that's I I'll just kind of roll into next and then I'll I'll while I I I'll go back to that so that's that's the end of my report unless
someone has anything for me all right uh actions on the minutes council president mayor i' like to call for action on the minutes uh minutes to be approved close meeting on February 18th 2025 regular meeting Fe 18th 2025
closed meeting March 3rd 2025 and regular and executive meetings uh March 3rd 2025 second second okay any questions on our minutes see none roll call
please councilman BAGI yes councilman Boy Yes councilman Guan yes councilman Martin yes councilwoman Sarah yes councilman you yes to the February meetings abstain on the March [Music]
greetings all right moving into Old business um I had just two things written down um I had I had our noise complaint which the gentleman was here this evening so that was just on my uh my notes to talk about so uh hopefully we can come up with something in the
next 30 days and pull that together and um because I understand not just from that gentleman tonight but from others that it is really you know a bad scene in that neighborhood is there a way that we like I could go over there
and I was thinking experience it cuz I you know I don't feel or I mean I know what it sounds like around my house and you know but I just to feel what it's like there I'm sure the gentleman tonight would welcome you back there or you know walk around and you should have his email on that thread
okay yeah do you have anyone who can work or who's going to work on that and I mean I can work with with Brian but how do we bring it to you um in regards to change your ordinance or so or we're goingon to have to do
something right um you know there might be options to look at um yeah if if Brian you know can look at some other things that are going on out there I me we can't be the only town you know experiencing uh this and but I I hear
this is really over the top so do you want to just you want a progress report next month yeah okay we'll we'll tweak it like almost like the veterans thing we'll we'll we'll put points together and Hey listen if it's I don't know what that device that he had in his hand tonight cost I don't know I don't want
to go to overboard if they're $100 and so it's $200 and there's one in each patrol car and they're good for a year then you have to budget next year for two more you know I I don't know I don't want to go overboard but if there is you know R remembers another incident and they happen when the nicer weather comes
out uh it's nicer sound systems now I I kind of have a problem in my neighborhood I that you know there's times I'm out in the back I'm like really but um how do we enforce the ordinance now the police go I I don't want to speak for the chief but the
police go they say yeah if it's if it's before 10:00 is it 10 or 11 10 11 oh it's 11 oh it is 11 sorry and that's really the problem you know the chief had mentioned will maybe change uh the wording so that they can say something
between those hours but as Brian said you can't really justify it unless you can tell them that you know the decb were yeah so that that's what I was kind of getting to so right now it's very subjective on who's working is it right so we get one of those it's very
objective right what it is like this is in your you got to turn it down and if you don't this is going to be the r to read cuz I feel bad I mean you can see the defeat this face I well I'm sorry you can make all the noise you want I guess at 8:30 on a Saturday night I mean
until but according to our code it does say in the in our wording or any noise which does or is likely to annoy disturb injure or endanger the Comfort Repose health peace or safety of others so if
there's noise is one thing but a shaking it is of it is that's to me that's not a normal noise it's saying any unusual ual noise or noise which is likely to annoy disturb injure and in danger Comfort Repose health peace safety of others so
it's not just the noise in the first paragraph it's from I think 7 to 11 in the second paragraph it acally allows at any time in between um regardless regardless so
that's what the chief was saying can we add that little portion to the first paragraph so you're only allowed to annoy people before s Brian said it doesn't hold yeah the problem is the enforceability of an ordinance like that because it is subjective that's why
there's the model orance State we had brought up the decel meters 6 months ago yes and it's as our public stated earlier I mean it's getting warmer I just checked it's going to be 59 on Saturday so I'll invite everybody over to my father-in-law's patio I'm sure
he'll be happy to host everybody I'll Grill we'll see how long we last okay I'm going to be all right I'm free on Saturday uh as soon as the music starts I I can come at four they supply the music I come at 4 all
right so they'll supply the music and dinner plans Saturday night so all right no let's let's but let's let's work towards a a resolution here cuz you're you're right I don't know who just said it that this gentleman was defeated tonight you know so let's let's work towards a
resolution all right that was on my list anyway uh uh the data center uh I I thank you for passing that uh resolution last month or two weeks ago did that go because uh the gentleman as Bill knows just continues to ask questions uh did
we we were going to send that resolution to Orangetown and to it all went so just before I say that it went it went okay I'm fact I think I uh forwarded all of those names in
addresses to um Christine they were given to the yes I sent them Council okay and I'm going to send our resolution to um I'm going to send it to all the other Pas Valley Mayors and maybe Northern Valley mayors that share
the same water system Lake depan flows South into the OR Reservoir and be unaware of do we know if it made it to violia water I don't know Environmental Services okay all
right so we we've kind of you know we've we've done a lot and and I know that that gentleman really appreciates our efforts I got an email during the week um someone wanted you know to host a town hall meeting on it I it I kind of responded to this woman saying we're
doing a lot of things here but you know we're probably not going to have a whole town hall meeting on on that um but anyway we'll just continue we I'm going to forward it to like I said the other Mayors um if if there's if I'm get notified of a planning board meeting in
Orangetown Bill maybe you or I we don't have to can attend uh voice our opposition but unfortunately when it comes to New York and we don't our our concerns don't hold a lot of weight so um any go ahead if you want to you can
direct that town homeall meeting to the environmental commission could uh we could host that okay okay maybe that's a good idea have a day we'll invite David okay you can speak to it okay um and they'll just show up at the meeting as
members of public yeah okay anything else old business yes um actually it's only 15 minutes old uh I texted the police chief he said yes we're hiring two out of this batch that's coming due this Friday we're hiring two
officers that was the plan all along yeah I had lost track of the math yeah well once yeah we Hing to look for two out of that and not stagger to kind of same time correct okay fair enough thank you that'll bring us to 15 okay Al I
mean he's done really well on overtime it'll probably make our overtime even less okay see good um new business any new business before us tonight think none okay I'll entertain a
motion again to open the meeting to the public so moved second okay uh anyone from the public like to be heard on any matter this evening motion to close second okay uh I'll intend a motion to adjourn move second all in favor all we
are adjourning she I want to talk what's her name