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Ready? Right. Moving everyone. According to the open public's meeting reading law, notice of this meeting has been sent to our official newspapers and other publications circulated in Barapan and notice posted on the bulletin board

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of Bur Hall. Please note that all meetings are videotaped and posted on the website in a few days. Please note the fire exits at the rear of the council chambers and at the front of the council chambers where you came in. >> Roll call. >> Mayor Gallagher

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>> here >> Costello here. >> Councilman Mar. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all. >> Please remain standing while Councilman Boyce leads us in prayer. >> Thank you, Mr. Acting Mayor. Dear God, we gather tonight dedicated to the people of Alapan. We ask for wisdom and guidance to protect our community's homeront while keeping our thoughts and

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prayers with our troops serving in the Middle East. May they remain safe on their missions. May our decisions tonight be clear. Our teamwork remains strong and our efforts bring lasting benefit to the residents

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we serve. Again, amen. >> Thank you, Bill. >> Okay, first order of business. Can I get a motion open to meeting to the public? >> So move. >> Second. >> Those in favor? >> I the public like to be heard tonight?

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Motion to close. Second. All those in favor? I. >> All right. We will continue on with consent resolution which is for Councilman Bliss. Thank you, Mr. Acting Mayor.

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Uh this is a consent resolution from from the Burough Clerk's office. Uh be resolved that the following resolutions placed on the agenda by consent require no discussion of the same having been previously reviewed by each council person be and are hereby adopted in their entirety by the mayor and council

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of the burough of old. Bills and claims refund sidewalk contribution 19 Dearborn Drive contract award uh Striker Sales LLC contract award North Jersey Truck Center Inc. contract award, Cliffside

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Body Corporation, County Snow Plowing Agreement, Bergen County Community Development three-year cooperative agreement. Uh, authorized inclusion in Bergen County Community Development Program, bid advertisement 2026 road paving program. Confirm class 3 special

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law officer uh and law enforcement officer 3 reappoints 2026 2027 liquor license renewals a second >> second.

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Any discussion roll call? >> Yes. >> Council, >> yes. Counciloman, >> yes. Council, >> yes. >> Okay. Council Committee reports, Finance and Fire, K uh Court Guan, Councilman.

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>> Thank you, Mr. Acting Mayor. Uh short report today. Um first of all, OEM. Uh so OM the World Cup has started. Uh as you know, Metife Stadium is one of the venues uh in the United States, Mexico, and Canada to to host some of these

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games. Uh I'll be going tomorrow. >> Oh, yay. >> Yeah. Thanks. Um >> a lot of projects. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, it's and this is exactly what uh I was going to talk about. It it was first of all, it's very important that uh we were prepared as a town, as a county, as a state. Uh it's a lot of

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people, a lot of traffic. Uh I drove by MetLife Stadium on Saturday uh to go south to Philadelphia. It was a 6 p.m. game. 3:30 p.m. the exit was backed up onto the turnpike. Uh but on the way home at 6:30 when the game was going on,

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there was no traffic. But uh one of my friends uh went to the game on Saturday said that basically the parking lot is being used for food vendors. So >> right traditionally for a football game and you would think okay we've done this before that uh that parking would be

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okay but they're using it for food vendors and you know people had to find alternative ways of getting to the stadium. Uh my friend paid $200 to park at American Dream. >> Yeah $95. >> How are you going? Uh, I'm taking a bus

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from Nutley, which is the Hackin Sack Medical College campus. >> I'm doing the same thing. >> Are you really? >> Yeah. Not >> reserve the bus. Did you do it yet? >> I I reserved it was $20. >> Yeah, but they go just like >> Yeah. So, I got the bus tickets and the

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parking spot. No, not tomorrow. Monday. >> Nice. >> Yeah. >> Very good. Yeah. So, for us on the Jersey side, we don't have to deal with the New York City. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> 20 bucks. >> 20 bucks. Yeah. I don't know like the shuttle going back to the to the to the right to the parking lot. I don't know

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how that's >> there's special lanes for buses, so hopefully it's good. Uh my friend that drove back home said there was no issue leaving the city. >> Awesome. >> Uh so yeah, so uh fire update. Uh there were 11 calls for service uh so far this

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month. That's 62 man hours. Year to date, there have been 131 calls, 1,026 manh hours. Uh, in terms of notable calls, on June 1, uh, the department responded, uh, to Northvale to assist with a house fire. On arrival, one

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civilian was badly burned. Uh, the fire department assisted, uh, Northvale Fire Department in extinguishing the fire. On the 3rd of June, uh the department responded to Hillsdale uh to assist with a house fire and no injuries were

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reported. And on the 15th of June, uh we responded to Rivervale to assist with a working fire. Upon arrival, it was determined that a shed that had burned and there were no injuries reported. Uh in terms of training, they're conducting monthly drill uh conducted the monthly

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drill on June 1. Uh then for apparatus 43 rescue has arrived. The truck remains out of service while equipment can be mounted. Uh that being said uh we've donated or made available one crew and the 43 engine available to Bergen County

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uh for the World Cup period in case there is a significant uh event. So we've uh offered our uh crew and 43 engine. And that is the end of my short report. Thank you.

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Nobody else is here. Councilwoman Costello. >> Thank you. Um I'll start with the library. So um I went to the US trivia session that they had a couple weeks ago. Mayor was there. He did very well.

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I did not. Um the the seniors really take it very seriously. you know, it was a it was led by um the NVOT history teacher and he was, you know, at first it was raise your hands if you know the answer and the first person to raise

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their hand, but then everybody started yelling out the answers and then everybody's getting mad who was following the rules and who wasn't following. So, a little bit chaos, but may mayor did fantastically well. Um, and then sat this past Saturday was the murder mystery. I I did I wasn't able to attend, so I don't know how it went, but

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we'll hear about it, I'm sure, next next time. Um, so they have the summer reading program that kickoff is is Wednesday of this week. Um, after school at 3:30 they're having as part of that a touch a truck event. Um, so that's kind

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of fun. And then the theme for this summer is unear a story. And so they also get a tote bag. There's a session where they can paint the tote bags. So it's really fun kickoff event um Wednesday after school. And then in regard to if you recall from the budget

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process um there were two a few things on their budget. One was cap some capital improvements throughout the library, some furniture replacements as well as plumbing um uh repairs and some roofing repairs. The

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the quotes are starting to come in. The work has not begun. They're starting to come in and sort of make sure that they could do what they they needed to get done within the budgeted amounts. And then secondly, if you recall, they they're looking to bring in an HR consultant to help them put together

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sort of a book of policies, which they don't currently have. So they found someone who is very specifically um knowledgeable on library sort of protocol procedures and policies and um they've given them all the information

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that we currently have and that person is starting to go through it and we'll come back with suggestions on policy um handbooks and so forth. So all of that is in process um from a a recreation perspective. Uh the soccer registration

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is open for the fall. It starts in September. Uh but registration's open now. Camp serendipity starts the end of this month on June 29th. And for the first time they're having weekly field trips. So they'll go to bowling one day,

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Tennifly Nature Center, I think Humdinger's another day. Um that'll be for the older campers. And um and I and I think the other thing to note on Wreck is they we talked previously about updating amending the

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bylaws for the commission. So that's I think >> they don't have it. >> They don't have any. >> We've been waiting. They've been saying they were going to make them, but >> the draft is pretty >> we've been working on. >> Yeah. The draft is final now. >> I mean I'm just saying they don't have

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they didn't >> Yeah. Okay. >> They didn't have any. Right. Right. Right. It's on an updated >> place. So this is different than the bylaws per sport. >> That's right. >> Right. This is recreation. >> Each sport has their own >> This is recreation. >> This is recreation for the commission. So it it sort of gives them sort

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something to follow in in the case of any issues, appeals process and stuff like that. So I believe that's a that I saw pretty final draft at this point. So that that's good. Um I went to their meeting, their monthly meeting. I think

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it was two weeks. That was it was a short meeting that there's not a lot going on this time. Um so that's all that's all I had to report. >> All right. Very good. >> So the did they have the viewing for the World Cup game? >> No, they decided to not >> I didn't >> Oh, really?

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>> to not Well, a they had the timer, >> right? We discussed last night or 9 p.m. >> And then I it was 900 p.m. They had 6:00 p.m. on the flyer, >> which is the LA time, right? And you know on at the commission at the commission level the reccomission level

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they decided that 9:00 p.m. was just too late. >> I would agree. >> So no they didn't do it. >> Anybody else have questions? >> No. Councilman Boyce. >> Thank you. >> I'm going to breeze right past the

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Veterans Advisory Committee because we're not meeting until September now. Uh Boy Scouts are chugging along. Boy Scout camp is July 5th. the week of July 5th. Um, >> pack your bags. >> Camping in town. >> Are they camping at Stan?

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>> Your farm? >> No. So, >> it's a sleep away at Camp Terrell, I believe. >> So, Tim Mer is still working on his Eagle Scout project. He's making progress. He bought the Stone Memorial. It's in Fred's garage now. The DPW

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helped cart it over there. So, um, no rent is being charged. Aiden Gallow is, I believe, doing bird boxes, batouses, and raised beds over at the library. And Biosphere is donating material for this cause. So, we are meeting tomorrow trying to have some other interested

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party meet with us to provide that material to him like Dave Keel um from the environmental commission. Planning and zone zoning boards are meet every Wednesday. Um, not every Wednesday, but Wednesday, the second

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Wednesday of the month at 7 o'clock. This past week, we reviewed a residential variance and we gave a variance for a resident residential accessory structure. It was a little over the F that was permitted, but it was a very nice golf simulator. I took note of the architect's name, so we

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might be able to borrow that architect for our own golf course. uh 244 Altapan Road. Um we hear that 244 is coming back in front of the planning board with updates to their site plan to satisfy the conditions of approval.

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There's a few more um points that we need to discuss. >> They're hoping they don't have to go in because their commitments changes. >> Well, >> that's what that's what Thomasville was hoping to find out. He was going to say,

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"Do you want them to come back for this? It's either safe or do what's on the plan." >> Who's making that determination? >> Well, no. Off wasn't at the meeting, so he couldn't bring that up. >> Okay. Well, our our planning board

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attorney was kind of waiting at the last minute for Gail Price to walk through the door um because she's quote unquote known to do that >> and it didn't happen. Okay. >> At that meeting, do you recall? I mean, you were at the meeting. She never said

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that. >> I uh did not see Gail that meeting. I was only there for just over an hour. >> No, she never said she was coming. Tom was supposed to bring the whole thing up to the planning board, explain the little nuances. And if they were okay

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with it, then you didn't have and and Bob said it was okay to do that. But if they wanted it, they were going to say, "Forget about it. We'll take the tree down, and we'll do whatever." >> I remember that dialogue going back and forth. Well, we were ready, poised, and

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able to discuss it, but it did not happen. And I guess we don't have to look forward to them coming next week or next time for me. uh the master plan and co-overlay session. We had a very rousing section

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session of sketching paper and plans in the conference room where um we met with our planners, two planners from Burgess, the mayor, our town attorney Ryan and uh the planning board chairman and we worked to envision how a commercial

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residential overlay zone would work um for both fair share housing regulations and also the overall layout over at Bstate Plaza that would be used to inform the master plan reboot. We haven't finished. Um it was a very

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productive exercise. Burgess took that information back to their office and we're hoping that they can distill out of all of that furry of creativity something that would be, you know, good to put into our master plan update. Um

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there is a problem with the way we charge our es collect our escrow fees for our um professionals on the planning board. We don't seem to collect enough. We don't seem to collect it timely and we leave our planning board attorney

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often drafting resolutions then having trouble clawing back money because uh there's nothing in escrow. So, we've set up a small committee to hopefully resolve this issue. Anna is going to be spearheading it.

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>> Yeah. >> You're welcome. >> Is this set is that set by ordinance or just >> how much we charge for escrow? >> Yeah. >> So, we just have to change the amounts in a while. >> Yeah. >> There's a lot. >> There's more to There's more to it.

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>> If there's too much, if you know if it's 2,000 now, but you want 3,000, so it's 3,000. You're going to get it back if you're a resident, >> right? >> If you don't use it, you're going to get it back anyway. >> But the >> thing is, you're supposed to keep looking ahead so that when it goes down, >> you get it

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>> reuped. >> Yeah. >> There needs to be replenishment on a timely basis, which means that the applicants need to be told there needs to be replenishment on a timely basis. So, we're trying to >> communicate that whole communic communicate that, but that's uh that's

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coming up. >> Um the environmental commission. So, the environmental commission has been focused on the data center in Orange Town. Um there were environmental commission members present. It's interesting. It's it's growing to a

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regional issue. Also, the former town attorney, I don't know, maybe you know him, James uh K. Riley Esquire submitted the statement to the board that outlines the precise legal terms why the board in Orangetown has the right and the power to

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um have a moratorum on these data centers. Um so they're really working through it in Orangetown. There's a lot of meetings, but it seems like the residents, many residents there and in Ultan are not in favor of it and they

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may be trying to put a moratorum on them. >> I think I read a headline about that. I didn't read. >> Yeah, I have the article here if you'd like it. >> That's the one I probably read. >> This big one here. >> Yeah. >> Uh and then >> can you remind me of the original issue

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with it? Is it the noise? The humming? >> It's the noise. It's the water usage. It's the water usage. Electric water discharge. >> It it takes so much power from the grid. >> It's the water discharge. The fear of that is right next to a reservoir.

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>> Literally taking up open space that you know currently serves as a watershed for the reservoir. >> There's >> And the humming does affect birds. So a lot of times it's humming at night like 24/7 all the time. >> Yeah. Never stops. Where is this

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proposed? >> It's It's right behind your neighborhood. >> Coran Cedar. >> No, that which one? >> It's all the way back. >> Coran on the right, I believe. >> Yep. >> By Verizon. >> Yeah, it's on the Verizon property. >> It's on the Verizon property.

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>> And phase two of it extends towards >> Altapan. And there would be a very small buffer between the residents that back up to that property and the actual humming from the proposed phase 2 building. So, um, about a year or more ago, some

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town residents got together and made a presentation to the, uh, environmental commission. We drafted a resolution. The mayor presented it to Orangetown, I believe. You know, he read it in front of, you know, it's on the record.

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>> Read into the record. Yeah. And you know this hasn't been approved yet and they're hoping to put a moratorum on any more data centers in that town which we would be in full support of. >> Absolutely.

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>> Okay. Um meanwhile our DPW has planted trees at the Chestnut Fieldhouse and the maintenance garage and it's looking much better. Now, they are not all native, but native trees in that spot would have been pretty tricky because

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>> trees in there. >> I love palm trees, >> but the guys who planted them are native. >> Oh jeez. >> They grew up around here. >> They did grow up around here. >> Okay. Careful. >> Yes, that's fair. >> Careful. >> Okay. >> All right. Now, I'm going to I'm going

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to close with the golf executive overview here. May was a good month for the golf course. revenue finished 14,486 above the prior year revenue and the average high was 64 degrees um and the average low was 54 so I know

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temperature has something to do with it rounds were up 2% overall compared to May 2025 3796 compared to 3723 so that's a lot of rounds for a little

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course public grounds may um were 620 20 versus 439 in 2025. A 41% increase. So overall, the golf course is doing well. They collected uh $65,000 for

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green fees and parts as compared to 52,000 in 2021. This is um all because of the new bunkers. They've made a tremendous impact really on the playability of >> 20% more >> just the bunkers. But we've also

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implemented uh Notify, which allows the public to book open tea times 48 hours in advance. Notify has helped uh with booking tea times outside of the 5day booking window that would have gone unused. So I guess

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>> more efficient. >> Yeah, it's more efficient. >> And you're catching times where you might not have caught before. >> Yeah. And I also asked Sam um how the concessions are doing. They said they actually made some money which is amazing in May. So that's making them

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happy. And he said that we have 256 members. I did at this late hour ask him how many golf members we had last year at the same time and he did not respond yet. So, I'll that'll that'll do it for my council committee report and I'll

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tell you how many members we had last year next week. Bill. >> Okay. Um, my report for the police department is before I forget, first of all, touch a truck which happened on Saturday was amazing. >> That was amazing.

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>> I wasn't there. I was working. But everyone I've talked to said, "Why don't we do this all the time?" And I said, "We do. We do it every year." So, um, the police department gave out, you know, swag and they said within two or

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three hours they were out of everything. >> Oh, wow. >> And, uh, kids were excited. Everyone was excited. I think this is a a great way to make the, you know, to make police more visible and more approachable. >> Yeah. >> You know, cuz sometimes if you're a little kid or if you have you had some

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other interaction with the police that wasn't good, the you can find out that our department is very approachable. These are easily nice people and uh so I think it goes a long way in their community. >> Yeah. >> And their community depth. >> Yeah.

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>> So good for them. So this for the month of May, we had $1,184 calls for service, $510 in permit fees, traffic details for outside contractors, 20,400. So that'd be big. That's a bigger number

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than normal. Um, okay. Uh, hold on. We had two new officers sworn in, as you know, Taylor Rabbino and Jake Putterman. We welcome them on in May.

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Just scan through this. There's a whole list of summones, but it goes on and on. I could uh just email it to you. Um, our our new chief is, as you know, actually a chief now, which is great.

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And >> how's that doing for morale? >> Yeah, good. Because at least people know that there's a path forward. And sure, it's only a term. It's only a word, but it means a lot. And, uh, you I'm glad

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she she got there and it's working. Um Katie has always been very um communicative communicative with me always. Hey, we had a we had a burglary the other day. Hey, one of the cars has a flat tire. Hey, uh you know, should I form should I send you this paper?

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Should I hold it? Things like that. She's not afraid to ask questions. Um and we talk all the time. We probably talk every other day. Um but she's been holding her own, doing very well. Um, we had a shoplifting case at CVS where

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there was a male acting at the lookout and a female loading her pockets with with items uh cosmetic items. >> What? >> No, they didn't call. Um, >> were they arrested? No. >> Through a joint investigation with the Northale Police Department Detective

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Bureau, we were able to identify both subjects as Romanian nationals who were part of a larger retail theft group. Warrants were issued for both subjects. As of as of this date, only the female subject has been arrested. She's in uh Bergen County Jail awaiting court. Uh

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there was a fraud reported for an by excuse me, a report was received by a New York resident which involved the use of a fraudulent credit card in her name. The suspect used a fraudulent credit card to purchase tires for his vehicle which were shipped to a local car repair shop

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in Alta Pam. The suspect then went to the shop and asked to have the tires put on his car. The shop mechanic stated they couldn't perform the service that day. Suspect loaded the tires into his vehicle and left. So the detective bureau reviewed the ALPR cameras. Those are the cameras we have on the street

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that read license plates, etc. Uh and surrounding jurisdictions found the license plate further investigation through further investig through the use of law enforcement information, sharing networks established the identity of the suspect. He was charged with theft and impersonation

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and he's currently await pending in jail. Uh I have a letter of thanks. This is from Alicia Chimeto. Alicia lives on Orangeburg Road right at the top of Herring Drive. Uh dear Captain Weaver, she didn't know

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she was chief. On behalf of our family, I would like to acknowledge two officers who came to our aid on Sunday on Saturday, excuse me, May 23rd, during an extremely difficult and challenging situation. On Saturday, May 23rd, my husband Jack was discharged from the hospital after having TKR surgery, which

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we found is total knee replacement along with his other multiple health conditions. We waited for hours at the hospital before we found out that the hospital transfer service was not coming. We decided to take him home ourselves. I knew it might be hard to get them up our back stairs and into our home, but I did not realize just how

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difficult it would actually be. I had prepared I had prepared with enlisting the help of good neighbors and three other adults, but it was not successful. Thanks be to God for us, Sergeant Eugene Wilkins and police officer Brandon Moore were working that day and showed up

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within minutes of us being of them being called. At that point, my husband and family and friends had already been sitting in the pouring rain for 20 minutes. When the officers arrived, they quickly assessed the situation and called for a chairlift. Both of these kind and excellent officers helped so

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very much to diffuse the anxiety we had with both compassion and good humor. Not only did they lift my 235-lb husband up the stairs and into the house, but they lifted the spirits of my family at the same time. I will never forget their compassion and competence. We are so bl

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blessed to have these two men doing police work in our town and I would like to say another big thank you to them for such professionalism and quick-thinking response. Praying for gratitude for them and for all you at the Ultan Police Department. Sincerely, Alicia and Jack Chimento.

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Uh another quick note from thank you Kate, Chuck, and Jake for coming over to our house at 10 Little Mountain Road to check on Allan. You were also great, such great people of service and we're all thankful to have you in Altapan. Enjoy a couple of cups of Joe on us.

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And then there was uh we have a form in the office. It's called in the foyer here. It's called recognizing good work done by our employees. How did we >> I've never got one. >> How did we shine? Uh and the name of the employee is uh Keith Sarai. Keith Keith is police

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officer and it's from Donna. how thoughtful it was to receive a call from officer Sarai regarding damage to our mailbox. Officer Sarai was polite, professional, and very thorough through his call. It's comforting to know that

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how well the OTPD watch over our properties and handle situations that arise. Thank you, Donette. So, that's all good. Um, I want to talk about uh traffic, but after >> Mhm. New business.

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>> New business. Otherwise, we're moving forward in our changing our ordinance to uh hire sergeants and hire lieutenants. Brian, you have anything to report on that? I thought we

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>> the policy been found she had to send it into >> Katie wrote a policy in the police department to to put in place the mechanism for us to hire uh lieutenants and to hire uh promote excuse me I I use

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the wrong term promote uh promotion policy uh we had tweaked it a little bit uh Anna and myself met with Katie which I am a big fan of meeting at the same table in person not zooming not calling calling, not texting, and it works so much better that way. And so we met with Katie, we ironed out the few little

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things, which just miscommunications, got it all working. >> Uh policies in Brian's hands, I'm presuming, right? And you're going to comment on it down the road. >> Okay. >> Uh so that's where we are. So we are on the path to hiring another sergeant and

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two lieutenants. We're on the path. More to follow. >> What's the time voting? Promoting. >> Did I keep saying hiring? I'm sorry. Promoting. Say that again. >> Time frame for lieutenants. >> I I believe we had >> lieutenant scheduled for the fall.

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>> Yes. They're hoping to meet the sergeant by the August meeting. >> Yes. >> And then the lieutenant would be >> right by the fall. We had because there budgetary concerns there too and we we already spoke about that during budgetary.

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>> One lieutenant or two lieutenants? >> Two. >> Yeah. >> All right. That's all I have unless somebody else has a question for me. Okay. In that case, uh, Bill, you have action on the minutes,

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please. >> I do. I'd like to take action on the minutes. The minutes to be approved include the close session May 4th, 2026. Regular and executive meetings May 4th, 2026. Close session May 18th, 2026. Regular

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meeting May 18th, 2026. Regular and executive meetings June 1st, 2026. >> Second. >> Second. Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Council member. >> Yes. >> Councilman Boyce. >> Yes. >> Counciloman Costello.

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>> Yes. Council. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Any old business before us besides the Oaks House. >> Can't hear you. I'm actually um quite tired of the whole Oaks House charade that we're going to

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have our existing architect and Tom do something. I was wondering if we should discuss maybe providing all of those drawings to another architect to write the specifications just to get it done like

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>> Pierro since he's already >> knows we spent money already. We did, >> but maybe we can. Overall, I think the plans were $12,000. >> Yeah, I was going to say 10. Okay. >> But the specifications are a small part and we've been talking about it for 9

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months. >> Okay. So, can we send them a send? >> You want to ask when we see him next week >> for the Yes. Let's see what I can't imagine would be that much just to >> bragging feet. >> What's I'll ask >> what's the issue? I don't know if he

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doesn't know how to write specifications for a municipal building. I don't know what the issue is. I I've tried. I've Anna can attest that. I've tried. I've even written that the mayor has been angry with him. I don't know what other tough script has. Tom is going to do the

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bid and everything and he's got all the pipe work and all of that. They need to put it together and there's no one on the other side. >> Huh. Okay. Yeah. The drawings are lovely. They're well done. It's a

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beautiful building. It's just communicating the uh specifications in writing that complement that for the contractor to bid against are not here to the level that we need. So, >> okay. So, what do you want to do? >> I want to have Pierro give us a price to do it. Hopefully, it's

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>> a couple thousand dollars. Not it won't be 12. >> He's an architect that we're working with uh on other buildings. >> TPW. Got it. Okay. Yeah. I I would I would think go forward at least get a number. >> Yep. >> We see where we're at. >> Yeah.

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>> Okay. Any more old business? No. New business. >> Old pin schools traffic study. Um you all got as an email. Um uh the county offers a free service. They'll come out and do your traffic

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study. So Katie had the county come in and do a traffic study. And when you think that there's a lot of cars on Charles and Leonard, I didn't realize 6,31 cars in a 10-day period went through

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that intersection car. Um not intersection down that street. So if if you read the the data collection and the and the sheet here by the county, it almost looks like they want to open

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Katie's idea is to open Charles again. You know where Charles is closed on Old Span Road. >> Open Charles again. Close K Street, both sides. Um you recall we had that accident a few years ago. Someone got hit. Uh,

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every chief since I've been here, every police chief has had their own idea of how to do this. It's always been a quandry. >> Uh, we've also had principles and superintendent also have words, you know, in also be

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involved in it because they're on the ground every day. They're seeing it. And I'm not saying anyone's right or wrong. I'm just I I don't have a problem with changing it and let's see what happens. uh because it's a mess and it it's a

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mess for half an hour a day twice a day. You know, it's half an hour in the morning, half an hour at night, maybe more uh in the afternoon, not night, in the afternoon. And it's it could be a mess. Also, the high school uh traffic, if you've ever been on uh

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Ultan Road at Bystate going west at that light or going east, pick your pick your poison and you want to make a left on Central, don't bother. If it's between, I guess, quarter to 7 and 7:30, something like that. It is horrendous.

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So, what they're trying to do is make the light longer. the county will make the light longer so there's more time for people to go down central and create more room. >> Yeah. So they're not turning around in bystate. >> Turning around and by state. Wow. >> Yep. And uh also

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making a left but not getting in just in the middle of the intersection. Just sitting there. No one can go anywhere. So I applaud the uh the effort. And if Katie wants to uh shift traffic on Charles and Leonard,

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I'm all for it. Um there was one >> Yeah, we'll talk about that in a minute. There was uh someone had an idea to make Heric drive one way just into the school. Um our police chief did not like that. For instance, someone on the left

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side going up or the north you'd call it going up that if there was two car two lines going up lets their kid out and that kid goes to cross to go to school and someone's coming from the right it's going to be a problem. >> I agreed. So >> like CDW they have two

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>> CD you can't exit on the right lane. >> The right lane is for passing for cars to go around but you can't have kids exit from that lane. >> Right. But you can drop off there on the school side. >> So they're on the school side. So they they're not crossing >> right on that strip between schools. You could drop kids off.

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>> I mean right the school I mean for the last year or so has been constantly pleading with parents not to drop kids off in a second lane away from the curb. >> Right. >> So doing this would do exactly what the school doesn't want. >> You know this option three.

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>> Yeah. No one's KB's not in favor of that. >> Yeah. >> Uh okay. Um, so I think she's she's there every day and so are our officers. Let's see what what they can do and see how it

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works out. So yes, Anna, you were going to say about an ordinance. >> Well, we do have an ordinance that you can't make a left onto Charles or left or right on Charles. >> Which way are you coming? >> Can't make a You can't No, it's close. You can't go either way.

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>> Right. But I think she said that she wants >> she wants to amend that or pull it. >> Correct. Pull it. >> She wants to open that. >> You would have to change her. >> And I I told her that she said I said you let me know when you definitely want to do it and you for her. Okay. So once she says okay, we can

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>> set up the ordinance. >> It's just a minor change. >> Yeah. I mean you could do it that way. I would suggest alternatively, although it's not strictly by the book, just adopting a resolution that temporarily you're going to do it however she she

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suggests and then if it works out, then you adopt it. >> Let's do that. Let's do that. I like that. >> It might not work. >> I have a feeling it's going to work. >> It's going to be just so we can get that resolution for July. >> You just need to tell me what Yeah, cuz I don't understand.

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>> Sure. manifested. >> Any more comments on the on the traffic study, traffic flow? >> Are they also um changing the light on Washington to be longer that was mentioned in here? >> What's that? >> It was mentioned in here as one of the options is to extend the light on Washington.

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>> Yes, it's proposed. >> Okay. >> That might that might happen. Um we did have an accident there with a student got hit. Yes. >> Last year high school student got hit by a high school student. >> Yeah. Right. >> And uh that wasn't good. on the I believe it's what is it walk to school

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Wednesdays. >> Yes, >> I see a lot of people walking and riding bikes. >> Was there any improvement in the traffic on those particular days observed? >> I would tell you from a personal perspective when it's a nice day versus a not nice day. There's a tremendous

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difference. So people are walking whether it's Wednesday or not. If it's nice, if it's raining, >> they are no tardies extended in rainy days because they could not >> get through the traffic by 8:30. >> Got it.

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>> Yeah, I see a lot of people walking. >> I always thought it was close to the program. >> But I I'll also say I mean just my observation is those Wednesdays, >> we've had more incidents on those Wednesdays >> than we ever had before.

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>> You mean almost traffic accidents? Uh well like my son's friend did get hit on on Ultapan Road. It wasn't severe serious but >> that was on the walk Wednesday, >> you know, and it seems like every Wednesday there's some level of an incident.

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>> That's terrifying. >> It's the kids that are mostly on bikes, >> right? >> Okay. >> Regular bicycles with pedals that move and not walking. But it's I think it's just, you know, ride your bike to school and they don't really mean or they're

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too young to do or >> All right. Anybody else have new business? It's not on the agenda, so too bad. >> If not, there motion to adjurnn to the public. >> Oh, sorry. Motion to open and public.

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>> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Anyone from the public like to be heard? Not you. I mean like regular people. >> Say it. Nice. >> Motion to close to the public. Some >> move. Second. >> All those in favor? >> I wish to return.

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>> So move. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Good night everybody.

