Good afternoon. Today is July 14th and the time is 12:07. Madame clerk, can we get roll call, please? >> Commissioner Bass here. >> Commissioner Santiago, here.
Commissioner Irvin here. We'll have an invocation by >> Charlene Bass. >> Dr. Charlene Bass. Commissioner Dr. Charlene Bass. >> Oh, Father God. Father, we just want to say thank you for truly this is a day that you have made. Father God, we just
ask you to continue to be with us. Continue to bless us, Father God. Father God, draw us near to you. Cover us in your blood in Jesus name. Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> The pledge of allegiance. >> Pledge of Pledge of Allegiance. To the flag of the United States of America and
to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. If there's any public comments at this time, not seeing any, we will go to our
proposed uh 2027 budget presentation. Madame managers, you're good afternoon. At this time, I'll turn it over to our budget administrator. >> Good afternoon. Good afternoon, commissioners. >> Good afternoon. >> Uh, I'd like to present to you the 27
2027 proposed city manager's budget for 20 for fiscal year 2027. We present a balanced budget. Uh this is a workshop that we get to discuss what's in and get your input as well as public's input into the fiscal
2027 budget. We'll start by giving off by we'll start by giving off by giving some general information on the budget what's included uh summaries and then we'll go division by division to look at what's included
in each division budget. >> Okay. Madame may uh commissioner. >> Yes. >> Oh, what is the silence? Very quiet choir. >> Yeah, I think they're trying to get on
the same page. Uh it and the budget director for the Okay. So, overall health of the city is looking pretty good. We we have
an estimated budget of $71 million combined. We're proposing for fiscal year 2027. of that there's $32 million for general fund and we are proposing a no change in the millage rate for 2027
>> that a no change >> no change same mill rate 8.9797 >> wow um may I >> sure go ahead >> thank you um I surprised that we have that good news that the city look very
good to me. Um, this counting well, whatever changes that we have for for next year or with the revenue that we going to receive, I think that they're going to cut a lot of things that, you know, come
to the city. It's not it's not yet, but that's what I say. >> He's talking about the property taxes. >> Okay. The property taxes won't take effect until 2028 if it passes. >> Oh, okay. So, >> well, I don't know that. I believe they're going to take over right away in
January 1st, 2027, but if it's a 28 is fine. >> Yes, but those those figures are for 2028 fiscal year. So, those will be assessed in 20 for 27 U calendar year, but will the taxes will be imposed for
2027 28 fiscal year. >> Yeah. No, very clear. the text. Um, our budget for the 27 is going to be u approved by October 1st is me this year. It's mean we're going to be okay. We're going to have the amount that we need. Yes. Okay.
All right. >> Excuse me. The page that's up on the board now, what what page is that here? Is that here? Oh, >> that's just a PowerPoint. >> Okay, >> so the next slide shows you our
breakdown comparison year-over-year between 2026 and 2027 proposed year of major general fund revenues for property taxes. We'll collect $1.3 million additional with the military staying the same.
Uh franchise fees 2.6. 6 permits 1.2 just a slight increase of $35,000 over adopted fiscal year 2026 and fines and forers will will be reduced and that's primarily due to red
light cameras. The red light camera program revenues have been declining month by month um in this fiscal year. So in 2027 we don't expect them to be going back up. question. Yes sir.
>> Go ahead. >> Okay. Um that I understand this is a a workshop and uh I received my uh workshop you know agenda today uh like two hours you know before this meeting.
But why that page is not including here in this book? Why it is >> it's here. Oh, but that's so you said that it's not here. Now is but it's here. No. >> So what he's doing now is an overview
and then he's going to get into the actual >> No, but I want to be sure because I heard from Commissioner Irving >> and he said the page is not there here. Okay. But it's here page 27. Okay. Thank you. I want to be sure that anything
that we talk is here in this agenda. To be to be clear, you did they're not going to match is what you're saying, right? >> Format is a bit off. >> Okay. >> What's your question? >> They just be the same number. The number would be correct or >> number would be correct.
>> Okay. >> I think what he's saying what he has is separate from what we have. Yeah, >> the format is different, but the the amount and everything is the same, right? >> So, yeah, our book is different from his. >> It's the same. I just condensed it. >> We got you. >> Okay. >> And we may notice that the mayor of the
great city of Palak is here with us. >> I'm here. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> There is also transfers of $3.6 million proposed in 2027 compared to 2026. That was $6.7 million and that's due to surplus in the debt service fund.
because we no longer have any debt in the general fund. So all that money is coming back to the general fund from the debt service fund. So that brings the total proposed for 2027 to $30 million in revenues for the general fund.
>> Can you say that one more time, please? >> The total revenues projected for 2027 is $30 million. No, the one before that about the debt >> debt service. >> Mhm. >> Uh there transfers of $3.6 million coming into the general fund from the debt service fund.
>> Can you tell us why? >> So the debt service fund has no no more pledge debt with it. So the revenues that's going to be collected over there is going to come back to the general fund. >> Thank you. >> But there's a degree. >> I wanted him to say that you want to say that we out of debt. I just want
>> general fund wise. I just I just wanted to say >> what what what I what I what I see here in uh in 27 we're going to have less money like 2 million. Yeah, >> that's correct. >> Yeah.
>> And a part of that is driven by the red light cameras. Those revenues are declining monthly. Currently in FY26 we budgeted $1.2 million for that. So far we've only collected $400,000. >> Yeah. Okay. In the last meeting that we
have I think uh we touch a point about the school the school is speed some that we don't receive any revenue for them. >> No we do have revenue for it. However so the the schooling program
was not included as part of the 2026 budget. We start that program went operational in November. We started receiving revenue since November and so far we have collected roughly $220,000. However, we still have to pay the vendor
at least $110,000 of that. Those bills are currently outstanding that we haven't paid since November. In addition to that, we still have to send the state's portion to the state, the school board's portion to the school board. So, the net effect of that
is probably like $15,000 net. We're doing the work. >> If I may say, I say we in a minute we're gonna owe them. >> That's bad. >> Go ahead. >> Do you have other questions? >> All right. >> So, our general fund revenues are
declining proposed declining because of uh fines and forers primarily driven by red light camera assistant program that we have. Um, also
as I said before, we will collect 1.3 million additional in keeping the mill rate the same. >> Madame manager, >> Mr. Mayor, >> you know how I feel about the millage rate. I wanted to decrease it as
>> if if that's the will of the commission then we need to go through this book budget book and let me know what items we're going to have to cut because we will definitely have to cut in order to reduce that millage. >> Mr. Mayor Commission. >> Yes, I know I I know this is you know
one of your uh u ideas about the milling rates. uh we have another Cali that they you know can think and in the future you know giving the opinion about that. Um seeing that we had 2 million less
already okay reducing the uh the military is going to make a hole to us. Okay. Um now I don't know what how we going to do it but I think that we already passed a
a legislation for that. No that we that we are putting down the mill. No >> no it will be coming to the commission. >> Okay. All right. Leave it alone. Okay. >> All right. So >> yeah that's a decision that we're going to take everybody. We can go through the book, but you know, I just want to say, you know, how
I feel about I want to have make sure our residents have relief. >> We still have the highest. We've reduced it, but >> we can I I I see you looking. I get >> Okay. I I don't think it's a good idea right now because we have to be waiting for what, you know, what are we going to
have for the next uh 28 um in the 28 or whatever. Yeah. Let's thinking about it, you know, to do the best that we can for the uh economy or the budget for the city and plus we had to go and look for other resources, okay, to get in revenue
for the city. Okay. >> Um out of the budget that we have. >> Um okay, madam manager, I was a little late for the party. So, we going department by department. >> It just started. >> Yeah, we just started. And what he's doing now is doing an overview and then we'll go into the departments. >> Okay. How much longer on the overview
before we can start the department? >> You can start when you're ready if you want. >> Okay. >> Doesn't matter. >> Let's go to the department. >> Yes. I was thinking the same thing. Let's start with the department because the overview is is Yeah, we can start with who whoever you
want to start with. I think the first on the list is Oh, city commission. City commission. 33. >> Who's present at the >> uh what's that? >> 33 page 19. >> 19. >> No, no, no, no. On the on the four point. There you go.
>> 33. >> Okay, good. Okay. So, the commission budget increased year-over-year from $176,000 to $346,000. That increase is
the proposed uh charter amendment for the additional $1,500 a month and insurance costs that is being proposed by the commission. So, if it passes, it will it would be included in the budget rather than doing
an amendment. That's a major increase in the commission budget. If I may >> and and >> if it doesn't pass, then what happens? That money just we take it from out of here and put it back like a general
funds or something like where does it go? >> Budget amendment. >> We could do a budget amendment and put it to contingency or whatever the commission wishes. >> Okay. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> Yeah. That's in case it's not passed. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. But we put in ballet that we reduce the $2 million that we have.
Definitely. Yeah. >> Okay. That's the major increase in the city commission's budget. >> All right. >> Any questions? >> No, it looks like majority of everything has stayed the same outside of the travel.
>> Yeah, >> travel is the same. >> Oh, no. Travel is the same. Travel is the same. >> Yes, >> everything stayed the same. So operational wise we try to kept try to keep all operational expense the same except for contractual salaries that increase.
>> Okay. >> Um >> I go ahead go ahead commission. >> Um I do you know I I just got my book too so I'm looking as we go. Um general expenses the commission is going
up. was >> it's the same. >> No, he said everything is the same. The only thing that he increased was the salaries for the commission and and just in case it passes. If it doesn't, then it goes back to wherever the commission
says outside of that question. >> So, I'm looking at 26, right? When I look on here, I'm looking at FY 26. >> Yes, 27 proposed. >> 26 is now 27. 27. Okay, I got you. >> Question.
>> The the only other item that went up was postage. >> Yeah, but that's Go ahead. >> Okay. Um, by curiosity, I want to ask you that question. Um, days ago, we be uh talking about the
$7,200 that we have to added to the commissioner. Okay. Uh do you including that by casuality in the 27 budget >> for the stationary you're questioning the paper? >> Yeah, remember the 7,200 and then you know like we want to add it to I think
that's for the commissioners. >> No, that was for a budget amendments. Two different things, >> right? So we kept the budget the same $1,500 for for office supplies. >> Same thing. Okay. It's not you don't adding anything for >> no >> it's not added to this upcoming budget
but it is included in the budget amendment >> in this fiscal year >> for this fiscal year. >> So this is for next fiscal year we're discussing. >> Yeah I understand. Yeah we do that because yeah we say that we need it for ending the 26 um budget year. Yeah but
what about 27? >> 27 we're leaving it as is at 1500 >> as is. Okay. Yeah. and we don't make any decision about that. Okay. >> Thank you. >> All right. So, it looks like everything when I say the footnotes are the same as far as the travel um office expenses,
membership fees and and everything like that and the monthly allowance. So, we can move on to the next item which is the city manager. >> Excuse me. Before we before we move on, just have one question. the the $300 that we get to
do things with in the city. Where does that fall here? >> It just falls on the monthly allowance. >> Yeah. It's on a reimbursement, >> right? Okay. >> City manager budget. the city manager budget overall declined and that is
primarily through eliminating a assistant city manager's position that was in FY 2026 budget. So we've eliminated that position and created some savings there. Okay. Um operational wise just a minor um
increase due to oy freight. Okay. All right. Any question from city manager budget? All right. None. Department So, this division covers expenses that cover citywide costs, electricity,
water, property taxes, any um services that can be tied to a division per se. This is where most expenses will come from. For example, um other contractor services that increase. The reason for that increase
is that this is 2027 is the year we start paying back uh the state of Florida for the red light program fund money that weren't remitted back in earlier years. And the agreement is that we have to pay them $250,000 per year
for the next 10 years. >> Wow. >> And are we doing a lump sum payment or we going to do it over a monthly payment? Monthly. >> Monthly. Okay. >> Contingency is at a million dollars. We have a million dollar contingency in the budget for
natural disasters or any emergency that might occur during the fiscal year. We can move to cover expenses as needed by the commission. >> Do you think that would be sufficient? >> We won't know. >> Well, yeah, but
>> but it's it's a it's a placeholder which which is looking good. >> So far in past couple years, we haven't needed it that much. >> Right. So, >> so what was what was the regular that we you needed if we haven't gone that far as a mill?
It doesn't have to be exact, just rough roughly. >> Common practice is at least 60 days of your net operating expenses. >> And that would be >> close to $2 million or more in the general fund.
But you just said a million dollars. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Mr. May, >> um I remember everything that we talking in that meeting that we have for us and
we've been talking about you know energy. >> Yes. >> Okay. um a lot of Spencer that we have uh in the cost of to mobilize you know all the vehicles that we have for you
know uh police department public work and all that uh what is the amount of um gasoline that we spending here a year for that number have that number
here >> it's in the public works budget We'll we'll get that. >> We're not there yet. >> We're not Oh, okay. We're not Okay, that's in the Okay. Currently, I want to know. >> Currently, we have 211, $212,000 budgeted for electricity citywide
>> for the electricity. How? How much? >> 212. >> $212,000? >> Yes, sir. >> A year. Okay. >> And that's a slight increase over 2026 of $26,000. >> Wow.
Okay. >> Electricity. >> Yeah. Okay. The electricity. >> Well, all right. Let's see if we can go to solar energy to reduce this amount of money in the future. Okay. >> Any other questions on the managers? I mean, sorry, non-depart.
>> All right. We can move on to the city part. city clerk, the the salaries went up a bit due to contractor increases for staff. Then operational expenses went down considerably because of the other professional services. there was a
consultant that is no longer needed for 2027. So the overall budget actually went down from $696 to $69,000 savings of roughly $5,000. >> Okay. Does it still include three um
aids to the commission? >> Yes, staffing hasn't changed. >> Okay. >> We we're keeping staffing at the same level. >> Okay. >> Mr. Mayor, Commissioner, >> if I may ask, I see office supplies jumped, if I'm looking correctly, from
4700 to 9,500. >> Yes. >> What are you saying? A F Y >> that is again um commission items for the agenda and stuff like that has increased
>> the cost of paper the cost of paper has also increased as well. So >> we go with paper again. >> So uh mid year they'll tell us that they need stationary. So we have to provide for them. Okay.
>> Office supplies does not only include paper though. It's office supplies, pens, paper, >> staplers, >> staples, staplers, all type of things. And the more staff you have, the more supplies that you would need. So, if you're bringing on the other staff that hasn't been hired as of right now,
that's going to increase the supplies as well. >> Okay. >> All right. Any other um questions to >> Yes. >> Commissioner Santiago, >> let me let me be sure something that I see here in in in office supplies. Okay.
This this year what we amended the same stay the same team uh 4700 and now in 207 we're going to add 9,500. >> Yeah. Okay. You asking about that. Yeah. What is the increase? Can I
>> So again, so this number the $4,700 was when you had one commissioner aid >> since you've hired additional comm uh commissioner aid. >> Yeah. But it's a big jump from 47 to 9,500, >> right? But they need they need supplies,
um, desk calendars, staplers, pens, highlighters, all that stuff. >> And more people for the printer, >> for the commission, for the commission, city clerk, city clerk, >> city clerk, >> Mr. Mayor, if I may.
>> So, so yes. Um, the paper is is one item and this would be regular copy paper. So when the city clerk's office makes copies on behalf of an elected official, all these special events that we're making copies of flyers, thousands of
flyers at a time, that is a cost. That is more paper that we're using. And it's not just for one individual. This is for for the city clerk's office. This is for the elected officials. We don't separate the use of that copy paper and that doesn't come out of the commission
budget. So it all comes out of the clerk's budget. So yes, there's a substantial need, a increase and that is not, you know, just for the clerk's office. This paper is also used for members of the city commission. You
know, we do have um a lot of events. You know, sometimes we get requests for flyers and, you know, to to pass out throughout the community. So that is a cost to that and that needs to be, you know, taken into consideration as to why
we need this increase in that line item. Thank you Mr. Mayor. >> You see Mr. Mayor, you know sometime you have to ask him because it's something here that is not uh normally okay from 47 now we have to
n uh 9500 but we're talking about close to $5,000 more. of getting that budget and she explaining to us it's not only for uh the the city clerk's office is people that we use in things that we're
not supposed to use in let's be clear let's be very clear mayor >> um >> I I didn't say in things that it's not supposed to be used for because obviously if you want to get the word
out to the residents you you require flyers for events. I'm just saying there is an increase in the demand for flyers which you know obviously there's going to be a cost associated with that not only in in paperwise but also you know
our copier our copier we get charged per copy so obviously on that side is going to increase as well so that's just I'm just giving this information so that the the commission is aware as to why that increase is taking place and it is
needed. So, I would appreciate if we can, you know, support that line item because it's not only the clerk's office that this is increasing, but also the commission when we make copies. Um, we're not purchasing the paper out of the the the regular copy paper, out of
the commission budget. All the copy paper comes out of the city clerk's budget. So, >> Got it. Thank you, M. >> Well, what I want to be I want to be sure, Mr. Mayor. Okay. Uh FI supporting that item is the paper. Yes. That we
need what the commissioner the mayor needs some paper for. Okay. For events that we do yearly the events. Okay. Some uh workshop that we uh make something like that. But I don't want anything to be used for any personal items, okay,
that we have. And I don't know if he clear or you don't understand where did I come from. But the only way that I that I be with this n uh $9500 approved and if they're going to be using it the right way
the right way and the commissioner items the events that we have the events event that totally different for anything that I want to do myself. >> Um Mr. Mayor,
>> come Madam Clerk. >> So, so I just want to be clear that anything that we do in the clerk's office is not for personal reasons. Is city all city related. So, it's city related and it it serves a public purpose, I guess. I just want to put
that out there. >> Got it. All right. Thank you, madam clerk, for the detailed explanation. Do we have any other questions or concern for the clerk's budget? Hearing none, we can move on to the city attorney's budget. The city attorney's budget only included
a cost of living increase for professional services and city attorney litigation cost. The retainer hasn't changed. So, that's the only increase to the city attorney's um city budget.
>> Got it. Any questions to the um city attorneys? Okay, moving on to human resources. So the human resources department budget increase in personnel and in cost.
The in prior fiscal year we had a consultant as a as human resources director. Now we've brought that position inhouse. So they have and also they have um assumed the position of risk manager as
well. >> Oh. So, they got the director that is in-house now and the risk manager. >> And just to add to that, the risk manager position was in finance. Now that we have an in-house HR director, that that position will go back to HR
where it should be. >> I mean, we uh we we reduce the cost for that department when we hiding the the in-house. >> The in-house was was um Before
we used to have somebody for outside >> other professional services. >> Yes. Okay. That I think the cost of you know money for us you know now we have inside. >> Yes. >> Okay. The cost now forget inside is less. No. That what we paid before?
>> No. We paid $165,000 to the outside personnel >> which didn't include benefits. >> So now we we have salary and benefits with a inside uh employee, >> Mr. Mayor.
>> Um >> so so for those two positions, the now risk management and the permanent um HR director is the reason for the $234,000 increase. >> That's correct. >> Yeah. But one of those one of those
positions is coming from finance. It was already budgeted under finance. So it's just transferring from finance to HR, >> the RIF manager. So it'll be uh you'll see that reflected when we get to finance that it has been removed. >> Okay. >> I'm not complaining about that because I
>> yeah I think that I see that department in the last six month working very very very perfect. >> Yes. >> Okay. That's that's my point of view. Yes. >> I don't complain. I only asking question but the department is running the right way.
>> I just got one question. You can give me the 30 second response. I see helping hands. What is that? I'm sure it's a recognition for employees because that's what it's listed under. I just want to know the words. >> Where do you see it at, Mr. Mayor? >> On the detail sheet, >> page 58.
It's under employee recognition. I'm not against it. I'm sure >> that's for the employees. The employees that pass away. The employees that pass away. Um the commission did legislation and it's titled helping hands. >> Okay. Okay. Mr. Mayor, just mayor. Thank you.
>> Okay. I'm looking at where it says other professional services and there's no dollar amount. We're not What is explain it to me? >> That used to be where we paid the contracted services for an HR director. We paid from last fiscal year. >> Okay. >> So, we no longer have that service
because we have a director in house. So, we we unfunded that. >> Negative. Thank you. >> No problem. >> All right. Any other questions for HR? All right, moving on to finance. The finance department salaries has
reduced due to that transfer of the risk management position to HR. However, um there are still some nominal increases due to contractual services, contractual um obligations for ASME employees and the 2% that is built in as
well. Operational wise, they have increased slightly. We have include we have um included $50,000 for credit card fees just because even though we are moving
to a new ERP software which will eventually get rid of credit card fees um expense, >> it won't be on October 1st. Right. So there is some expense carried over. Got it. >> And rather than coming back for an amendment, we'll include it just in
case. >> All right. >> If there are savings, we we'll we can move it to whatever the commission wishes. All right. >> So, I know we talked about this last I'm so sorry, Mr. Mayor. No, go ahead. >> Um, I know we talked about this last time. What you mentioned about credit
card fees. Is that where the credit card fees are now going to be sent to the people that's using the credit card and not us? Okay. Okay. >> Thank you. >> All right. Um the only question that I do have about the finance department,
well we answered both of them which is Markhamm and um Cabalero but in case the um what's the thing we're doing now? The >> efficiency audit >> efficiency audit is not completed by Sep
uh was by October one. Are we prepared to take on an additional cost? I don't say reflected or do we anticipate them to be done? You anticipate to be done prior to October one. Okay. All right.
Got it. That's my only question. I didn't see it reflected, but thank you. >> So, the bottom line number decreased. Yes, it did because of the the trans stuff. >> All right, we can move on to community
development. We need development, slight increase in salaries. operational wise um slight slight reduction as well. We've reduced their general expense to $2,000 and they have no grants. So they have no
business grants. >> Yeah, I see that it was amended. We moved that under >> social services. Okay. >> Right. Staffing is still the same with your budget reduced. >> And the historical grant, we move that to social services, too. Are we That's
done. That's completed. Okay. question >> community development that's the department uh Mr. running. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. How many employment that we have there?
>> Five. >> Yeah. The director, the secretary of economic development, city planner, and a zoning official. >> Yeah. And that's enough employment for that department to make that department you know running and um be more efficiency uh with all the projects that
we have in the city to uh creating more revenue like you know impact fee. I think that's you know his department and all that because I know there is a lot of you know um comments you know around that we take so long you know to do things out there.
>> They had a vacancy for quite some time. that vacancy has since been filled. So they should have the proper staffing to do what's needed in the department. Um should there be a need for um should there have been increase in services then we can always revisit it but they
have filled their vacancies. So they're fully staffed now. >> Sorry that's you say they have some vacancies. >> They had a vacancy there. It's filled now that he need to fill it out. It's filled. It's filled. Yes.
That's me that going to make that department better in the future, more efficient say. Okay. If it does, it's okay. No, it's fine. What I say is it's going to make that department to be better. >> Yes. >> They should run e more efficient.
>> More efficiency. Yes. Yes. Okay. They're good, but I say more efficiency to uh try to uh because I know that they generated a lot of revenue if they had the power to go to go through with the plans that they have.
>> Okay. No more question. >> Question. >> My favorite one is next. >> Housing and social services. >> Yes, sir. Staffing is still the same. Two. One is probably vacant right now. So we only
have one active employee in that um division. Okay. Um salaries increased slightly. Other than that they have stayed the same operational wise reflecting the residential assistance grant and the hope assistance grant that is funded as
well. >> So the grants that we're rolling out this year will be the same. So it's the the resident assistance and the and the hope fund. >> Yes sir. >> Those are the only two. >> Correct. And what about the the business facade that's coming up on the hill?
No, >> cuz it was removed from >> Mr. Gay's budget >> and and placed here. >> We're here. >> These two grants. >> We're funding these two grants. >> It says who? >> They funded these two grants.
>> Oh, it funded these two grants. Correct. >> But what about the business community? We we don't have something have anything for them. If I may, um, if that's the will of the commission to have something for the business, we can look at other professional and other contracted, those
numbers were placed there being because it's a new division and we didn't know what services they would need in the beginning. So if that's the will of the commission to have something for the business community, then we can probably look at th that funding those line items >> in housing.
>> Yeah. >> Within that division. >> I would say not right now for that because like you said, we don't know where this is going. This department. So >> I guess we can revisit that later. >> Yeah. Because I cannot um we cannot at
this time increase that budget. Social services has taken everybody's money. Mr. Mayor, >> well, Mr. Mayor, >> in in the meantime, could we possibly look to see if there's um grant money out there for that purposes for just
business? This >> um Mr. Mr. cave have been assisting um residents and business owners through other entities and we can we can definitely look at that too >> which is good because we're doing other professional services so contracting with another agency to help um you know
with that process the chamber the small business you know the people the bank that we >> the credit union yeah >> yeah he has been working with those other entities okay I'm happy.
>> You happy? >> Mhm. >> Sergeant. >> Yeah. Moving on to Wow. >> building a license. >> That's a good one. I love that. >> That's Maryland budget. >> Yeah. >> She said don't touch her budget.
>> Well, no. With the question coming. Go ahead. You go ahead. Present. Yeah. Presenting first. The only thing missing from their budget is that they requested two vehicles which we couldn't fund.
Sorry, Miss May I ask you a question about that? What why does the department two vehicle for? >> Why not two >> for the um >> I only ask you okay what for the inspector? So it was just brought to my
attention on yesterday when I returned to the office. We will look at one but not two at this time. We cannot afford to take on two brand new vehicles. We can try to look at one and since we can they can probably alternate or use and we because they have a vehicle now that
the um housing inspector is using so we can possibly look at buying one new vehicle. >> Can we repurpose what we have from the >> We don't have any repurp We don't have any to repurpose. That's the issue. >> You mean from where? I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor.
>> Um um police the the ones that were broken down and or did we all those? >> No, we got rid of those. Those were Yeah, >> they were they were not I'm sorry, commissioner. >> Thank you. Let me find out. Okay. Are you asking why? Okay. You're talking
about the needed for the uh impector that we have. Okay. But I know that we have some outside impectors outside that we that we are hiding the contract for another city. >> Yes. The ones you're referring to are
our employees. The housing inspector. That's a city of Opalaka full-time employee and the building official which is Mr. Abia. And those are two full-time positions. Those the ones that they're requesting vehicles for. What happened with another vehicle that we have before even they
out of service they don't move there because I see public work filler or you know vehicles they are parking all the time. What we going to do with that? We can fixing it. we can uh uh put him in and serve him again back. >> The vehicles that we have that's at public works there and Mr. Austin can
speak to them. I'm I mean you can speak better than me, but I can go by what Mr. Austin told me that they're not um in a they're not Yeah, they're not to be repaired. We're spending a lot of money on repairs to those vehicles. >> And when we purchase any vehicle for uh
any major dealer, they don't come in with warranty, you know, to fixing it and >> No, they come with warranty. Yes, they come with warranty. Yes. >> But I, if I may, um, those cars are out of warranty and they're I sound like they're older cars, which the warranty
wouldn't wouldn't help. Sound like they're ready for Kroll Lane. >> Yeah, I know. Well, yeah. Hey, when we purchase, you know, cars for uh for the police department, for public work, okay, any dealers and any any company,
they know that they're going to be using for a public service in the city. It's me, they're going to have miles. They're going to have and and by the future, whatever purchaser that we do, let's thinking about to get some kind of a warranty that they added miles, okay?
because we using for for work for you know for the public but that's in the future okay right now okay um whatever we have there I don't know what they're going to do but they don't do anything there sitting down you know sitting in
the parking lot um >> I don't know the idea that you have in the future okay you can make money you know to selling all that stuff please okay let's make some money for that to see if we can buy uh another car for the other department Yeah, we're we're going to have a surplus auction. Mr. Austin
can speak to, but we're having a surplus auction um with vehicles and some more some other items that we will be bringing to the commission. >> Yeah, thank you. And another big question that I have for that department uh for building a license. Um and I've been talking to Mr. Gay about that
before and Mr. Gay say no the the one is in charge is mine. Uh we have a new law in the state that affecting us a lot. Okay. uh with the $75,000 uh work that anybody for the residential
we're talking about residential that I don't think that apply to any business but residential that going to affecting a lot that department okay if they don't h if they don't need to come here and get a permit >> yes >> I mean we have to be you know careful
with that to see if we can you know keeping going and if it if it that law is not affecting Yes. Hey, let's try to get any revenue that we can get before that thing hit to everybody and we lose money.
>> It it already started July 1st, but they the staff is aware of it. >> Okay. Yeah, we have to be sure that we can move out. We don't know that department the quickest we can. Thank you. No more question. >> All right. Uh favorite department, the police department.
>> Yeah, that's a good one. Chief looking like don't come over here. >> So the police department is our biggest expense in the general fund >> and recently we had to assume a 17% increase in
salaries for police officers. So their salaries are going to jump a lot. negotiation, right? >> Uh just Yes. >> Yes. All right. >> Okay.
>> For question we go. >> No. No. >> Oh, you going to Okay. >> There is also $150,000 included to upgrade their radios and body cams. Over the next five years, we're going to
spend at least $150,000 a year. We have reduced the red light camera expense to match the red light camera revenue. Since we're not getting enough um tickets, the expense is going to be reduced as well.
And their vehicle expense increased because this past January they received 11 new vehicles. We receive what? >> 11 new vehicles in the police
>> in this year or in the next the next one >> this year. So their vehicle expense went up next year because of that. >> Okay. So I only have two one statement and one question. Madam Manager, to Commissioner Irvin's point, I think
maybe we need to um the police body cams and radios. Let that be one of our appropriation requests because we know the Tallahassee has an appetite for police departments. And usually when we put that through, it comes through. >> I hear you. We can all we can do that,
but we kick the the radios down the street from last year. Okay. >> Keep it there because he said it's a it's $150 over the next >> $150,000. Yes. >> Yes. So I'm just saying keep it here but just >> yes we can definitely we can definitely we can put that money back
>> and also if we can you know I talked to a lot of the different officers and they have a concern about their tasers >> that's included >> that's included in that I just wanted to included but that's that's being taken from another fund. >> Okay. >> That's necessary to have that
>> money officer. >> Yeah. And and and and also if I may ask um the thing that your point the speed thing. >> Oh yes. >> The radar. >> The radar. >> It's here. >> Do we have It's there. >> Yes. >> Okay.
>> And now what I was looking for, madam manager, is my my education um grant scholarships for police officers. We took that out. We graduated three officers in the
academy. >> The academy. >> I don't see I see FBI academy. >> Is it employee recognition? >> No. >> No. The police academy when we we sponsor the officers to go through the academy. >> It's not here. Unless I'm missing it,
but I don't see it. >> I thought we didn't have money for that this year. >> We we actually did it this year. >> I mean for like 20 the next year. I don't think we have money for it. and and and we have to just keep in mind once we do that we're bringing on more bodies which
is also another expense. That's more cars. That's more equipment. That's that's it's another expense. >> So I guess my police department >> are we fully staffed at the police department? >> They have vacancies. They have some vacancies
and chief can speak to her vacancies. Because the purpose of that piece was to fill to help fill the vacancies. >> But did with the vacancies can they only be filled through putting people through the academy? >> No, no, no, no, no, no. We wasn't
getting people to >> So currently uh we do have three vacancies um to our command staff and then we do have one full-time vacancy available. We do currently have approximately 15 reserves. >> Okay.
>> Uh any event that we're able to expand that number, then of course we can take from the reserve. >> Got it. All right. All right. So, we're just one one short. >> All right. We can ask him now after you question. >> Nobody's talking.
>> No, I had I had to wait for the green light from you. Okay, I know that you say before just wait for we uh come to Polish work. Okay. Uh to talking about something, but
that's regarded to our police department. what I see um for the next of fiscal year. Okay, for me it's not too much what what what they going to need in comparison for
last year because the police department one of the uh department that we had that they work 24 hours all day in the road 7 days a week 365 days service the public made the city
safe but we we can we can get you know some some way to, you know, to reduce expensor in that police department and we can do, you know, better and the budget that they really need.
And what I heard that we have three vacancies, three vacancy out there. Okay. Is that mean that we need more police officers in the police department? Yes or no? >> One. >> Only one?
>> Yes. only one. Okay. Yeah. I have I'm going to have some question with you and the police chief. Okay. Between me, you and the police chief reged about the that department. Okay. Now, um when we get to uh police work, I know and I ask him for that number and I don't have
that number yet with me. Okay. And I I need to know what is the expenses that we have in the police units now. Not published what the police units. Okay. That's police unit. They be using it to go home.
Okay. To uh do what we calling uh uh the extra hours, what we calling >> off duty. >> Off duty. Okay. They use the police cars. Let's be honest. Um and I like to know to bring a point. Okay. When I have
that when I have the number for the gas that we spending in that car repairs, it's only the not only the gas, the repair, the maintenance and everything for these units. Okay. I noticed something um when I ask a question to
the chief. Okay, chief. I I see something, you know, very and you every day. Okay. when I see you know cars for your police department parking okay um in the uh lunch break
any break that they take and the car they home they out of the car eating but the car is they own outside home why the police do that >> that's the conversation we just had today >> yeah I don't I don't know why but I see
that all the time And I said, "What the C is doing?" They one, let me tell you what happened with this. We make we put in a lot of hours in that engine. Okay. Doing anything. That's one. And we ruining the car because the car is standing and when the
AC on everything that's something that I see and I see it a lot of times all over the city. >> I just talked to through the city manager. Um, yes, I I totally agree with you. I have a problem with it myself. Uh the city manager and I did have a
conversation. There was a policy put in place over a year ago. However, that's going to be implemented is going to be going to the city man the city attorney for review. But there will be a policy put in place for idling of the police vehicles. >> Good. But how is too long to make
something, you know, work? >> It because that's inside of the uh city, inside of your department. they had to come through us. >> Once a directive is sent out, there will be a directive which I previously prepared that will be sent out to all
staff knowing that they cannot idle those vehicles following the directive. A policy will be implemented and they will have to sign for that policy showing that they received it. >> When you say that >> they will be written out >> when they when the chief say the
policies madame manager. Okay. is my question is okay they prepared a thing with the city attorney for what you know that's between you that thing had to come to us to the commissioner >> the city attorney still needs to review it it needs legal to review it it's a
policy and if if we if >> we we need the city attorney review that if it if it if it's challenged our city attorney has to be able to say yes it's it's it suffice so yes I I do support it going to the city attorney >> my question again is okay that's going
to be bringing to the commissioner chamber. >> No, it don't go to the commission but we need >> that's between that's between >> right >> inside. Okay. Nothing to do with us. >> No, >> that's that's my question. >> Okay. Because if if if it necessary to
bring a you know a resolution about that I bring it. Okay. But what I say that's what I see and that cost a lot of money to your department. >> Yes sir. I agree. and through the city manager there will be a directive sent out today.
>> Good. Now another thing is okay why we had to let people take the car home because I see cars sometime all the way down you know fall out of there or whatever you know and I say what are they doing here?
>> This is a previous agreement that was done through the PBA. So this is something that is being negotiated uh in addition to other requests that we have that's been submitted to the PBA for the officers responsibility to take care of as well.
>> Okay. Yeah. Because if we calculated I believe madam manager that all that thing that we doing right now okay out of the order that we need to do it cost a lot of money to the city. a lot of money. Probably we're going to saving a lot of money for that department if we
do the thing right. I love the police department, but you know any department here have to go by the rules. Especially now that a lot of thing going to be cut and I don't want that, you know, affecting our police department.
It's going to be so affecting and we have to be prepared for it. >> Thank you, >> Madame Chief. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Madam Chief, so I did have a conversation about the idling of the cars with some of the officers and they both said the same thing. So I think we
need to also take certain things in in consideration. If they're on a call and they want their blue and red lights to just to be on idle, if you turn off that car, the the amount of power that the lights take is
going to kill the battery. From what they told me, if you leave that car, if you turn off that car, but you still have to have your I'm call them house lights, >> and you still have to have your house lights, it's going to kill the battery every time. That's what one of the
things that I was told. So I think if that is the case, we need to when you're doing your policy, we may need to let it reflect if they're on a call and they need to have the house lights on that I don't know. Um
>> I I'm not a mechanic, but I'm just saying if that is true that we may want to look into >> with all my respect, commissioner, >> just to be fair. >> Yes. >> Let me say that that's this is not what we talking about before. Okay. If it
they are working and they are in an emergency in an accident and whatever and they are they have to be they are under the investigation what's going on and they have the lights on it's fine to have the car on because they working but
I talking about is I saw cars the people they sitting eating an hour eating okay and the car is on outside that's not an emergency this is nothing to do. Okay. They use the car to be sitting, you
know, 24 hour in the 24 club. That's what we calling out there. Okay. Well, they can be outside, inside or whatever. Okay. That's my point. If it if they are in the personal car, I don't care. But this is a city car. We don't if
that's an emergency, it's fine, Commissioner. And I'm sorry to >> No, it's okay because I've shared the same sentiments with the manager just a few weeks ago. So I I I agree. >> Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. When emergency, that's emergency. Chief,
work is work. But when they work and they eating, they have an hour. That's you giving an hour lunch. >> Yes. >> An hour lunch. It's an hour. >> Any event they have an emergency, they still have to leave. But if I through the city manager, I have never heard
anything in reference to um officers keeping their vehicles on and then the batteries go dead. I would definitely have to lean towards um Mr. Austin and his staff, but the 37 years I've been in this profession, I've never heard of that. >> Okay. >> Thank you.
>> All right. U B manager Chief, don't leave. Um really quick. So I would like We know that Opa Locka is a logistical hub and I talked about the commercial unit there. So I don't see that reflected in the budget and the other thing I'm going to give you all of it at
one time. Um, we talk about we need to bring in more um, funding. The PAL program is a nonprofit that most police department has as their nonprofit arm. That's not reflected in the budget. >> So, that's a that's another easy lowhanging fruit grab, but we should
start that up. And another one, forfeiters and seizures. It's not here. So all of forfeites and seizures, all of these things would allow our police department to bring in, but we don't we're not us utilizing
these these um resources if if you will that we have >> uh as far as the PAL program is concerned, a complete bylaws have been completed pending the review of the uh city attorney. >> Okay. So I guess madam attorney and
madam manager can we work to bring that forth because we've been talking about power program for like over a year now. >> Yes. Yes. Also I I would like to hear about the commercial unit because I've been asking about that. >> The traffic the traffic enforcement unit. >> Yes. No the commercial
>> commercial enforcement. >> So that's a part of traffic enforcement unit. So we've already implemented the traffic enforcement unit >> but specifically for >> not specifically that's traffic overall. So anything related to traffic that is
the traffic enforcement unit that deals with that. A commercial vehicle enforcement is a part of traffic. So it will fall under that umbrella. It's not a separate unit. >> Are we doing that now? >> We are doing it. We are going to be redoing it again. We're going to try to do it once a month. Um, Sergeant
Gonzalez is overseeing that team and he's already aware of doing the commercial vehicle. >> So, we are fully equipped with with the weights and and the >> as far as the weights are concerned, we're still looking into that's what I'm talking extra mile. >> So, the
designated location >> as to where that is going to take place. Okay. >> Somewhere within the city and that has not been determined yet. >> Got it. >> Yeah. >> Go ahead. >> Uh, madame chief. Okay. Um that's a good
point. Okay. The area that you need to, you know, to um make that, you know, work. Um do you be thinking about that area in 135th Street? Because that's the move of places that we have, you know,
heavy duty truck pass by and over way and we spending a lot of money. No. and that beautiful row that we have there in Kairo Lane and 135th and 127. And I I love to see that be in, you
know, embraced the soonest we can because we don't want to lose that row again. >> And and now listen to me. I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor. I know this is come up also that we're going to have revenue soon for the parking regulation that we have in this
main road that we put the signs already uh that the sweeper pass they put only the sweeper they it's a picture of the sweeper but they don't say they say the day bro they don't have no time and we supposed to have time to let him know people hey get out of there from 8 to 9
or whatever that's something that I don't see that you see it but I hope you put a sticker with the time that the sweeper is going to pass by >> that we're going to get money for that you know where the tickets >> yes if parked out there within those times and the streeter can't pass but I'll um work with
>> and where is that funding going go to the >> go yes >> uh to help her any department that we Okay >> Mr. Mayor, I have a quick question. Do we have the equipment necessary for the heavy trucks? >> No, we do not. >> That's what she said.
>> Yeah. What what what that looks like the budget for that if you can. If not, it's okay. >> I I would want to be fair and not to give an estimate because I it wouldn't be right for me to say a lower number or a number too high because I really don't know. >> Okay, I respect that. And another
question would be, do you think we will be able to bring in enough revenue to cover it? Um I am sure however it's there's a lot more research involved behind it. So I will reach out to FHP the resources I know there and I will collaborate with
the departments here to see how we're able to get that done. >> Okay. Because um I agree with everything you just said as it relates to revenue bringing in the revenue. So, my thoughts will be maybe maybe later on that we I don't care if it's a loan or credit or whatever to be
able to get that equipment once it could pay for itself plus having a profit. >> Yes, we'll definitely look into it just to get more information so that and I'll present it to the city manager. >> And thank you. >> The last one is the the forfeite forfeitures and seizures. I'm asking
about that for forever too because it bothers me that the county comes in assist us with a bus. we go with the bus and then what what we collect they take >> but it happened in Opalaka. >> Mhm. So based on my experience and
having been involved in that with the city of Miami that is something that has to go through legal and legal department does all the legal backing behind that. That is not anything that the police department would actually do. >> Okay.
>> If I may and mad manager >> wait one sec because she she asked very quickly. We we've been around. >> Yeah. Yeah. No problem. >> Gotta move because I know you got to go. So go ahead and then you don't have to go. >> I just have >> No, we're going to just have one uh really quick question. I noticed that um
our explorer program has 20,000 last year. Did we come close to filling that? Um >> um we are probably maybe about 10,000 shy. We just purchased a lot of equipment, bags, and things of that nature for our explorers. >> Okay. And I know we're still growing.
So, I just was curious is how much did we possibly spent last year? Okay. Thank you. >> Yeah, let's close it out. Okay. Um, madame manager, um, in the future we're going to be together, okay, to discussing about the project for the
chief uh or police uh for waiting for the weight for the trucks. Okay, they're going to come with a very good idea that probably, you know, we don't have to go and get a lot of money, you know, you know, to be paying and all that, but we're going to come with something great, okay, for the city to creating
revenue free, okay, to us. Now, we don't have to, you know, probably, you know, pay it for it, okay? But we're going to come in with that, okay? That's one of the things. And and for now, yeah, we're going to get together and talking about that, okay, for the future. All right,
moving on. >> Close. >> Moving on to the next department, which is >> Park and Recreation. >> Oh, it's code complant. >> Oh, co Oh, >> code compliance. >> Oh, we not there. Oh, yeah. Sorry. That's a very rich department.
>> For code staffing has stay the same. We have also included $30,000 to um update their radios so they can have communication between them and the police department. >> Not update because they don't have any to get them radios because they don't have any.
>> I'm sorry. Just so I understood correctly, you said um parks radios should be in communication with the police department. >> Oh, because I thought it was the same. >> All right. Okay. All right. Cool. My mistake. We're not there yet.
>> All right. So, body cams and and COD and radios, too. >> Yes. >> But that's included in the cost from before that we talking about with the police department. Okay. >> Anything else you want to highlight or any other major changes?
>> That's a major change. >> I have a I have a question. Other contracted services. >> That's what I was going to ask. >> 34,000. >> That's what I was going to ask. the other contracted services is for to do a study um within the code code
enforcement division to see if there they can better processes and and get their department much more efficient. >> Right. So that's something that I'm requesting for code. >> Got it. Okay. So then I guess my last
question for code you said the positions are staying the same. Are we fully we're fully >> just fully staffed? They expired another one. >> Okay. today. Yesterday >> and that is inclusive of the borrowed CR a officer. >> Yes. >> Okay. All right. I'm good.
>> All right. We can move on to the next one which is parks and wreck. >> We're having another budget hearing, right? >> We have to submit this to the state um before August 1st. >> So, this is the last one. >> So, the plan is to have We can have
another one early next week, but we have to have it on the agenda on Wednesday for the commission agenda because we have to send it to the state >> August 1. >> We late. >> Yeah. >> Can we just put it even if we have to cancel at least it would be there?
>> Put on the agenda. >> We have to we have to pass it unless we're going to have a special commission meeting after the 22nd. >> That's not what I was asking. I was asking because you have here the event. Yes. Yes. And I didn't and I know there going to be a long drawn out conversation. So I wanted to make sure
that we don't you know because I know it has to go before August. I just wanted to make sure that we don't as a commission bel this time on this because we have a tendency to do that. >> Well, we have to go through the events. >> That's what I'm asking. So um go through
it and then we'll we'll we'll skim through it real quick and then because we got a lot to get through. So >> for for products and services the change the change is mainly um contractual >> in regards to salary increases for ask
me employees. >> Got it. >> Um we've only had we've only added some money to the pool maintenance account to take care of some issues with that. Fix here >> to the what? >> Pool maintenance. >> Are we fully staffed with parks now or
we still have vacancies? I think they have one or two vacancies >> and that was a part-time. >> Yes, >> part time. Oh, lifeguards. Oh, the two lifeguards. Okay. All right. The two lifeguards. >> Y. >> All right. And then uh see that. Okay.
The summer aid is the same. So, nothing else has changed. All right. So, the part that we like real quick, which is the event. Um, >> we left that the same. We didn't change it. >> Everything is the same. Yes. And then we finished with the swimming pool, >> huh? >> We finished with the swimming pool
already. >> No, he said that they put money into going forward that we are doing maintenance on the swimming pool >> right now. Yes, >> but this is for next year, but he's asking what about the swimming pool now? >> Yeah, right now because this is summer. >> Yes. Okay.
>> I can speak on it. I can speak on it. So, when I returned on yesterday, I had a phone call with the >> the owner of the pool company. He did go provide details um on where we are. They will be back on Thursday to do the
remaining work that's requested from the company. However, um Mr. Carney requested from the department of health if they can come out on next week to do their inspection because once the department of health do their inspection then we're done. Um they told Mr. Carney
they cannot come out on next week. They gave him the week of the 27th. Mr. Carney sent him another request telling them that it's urgent, asking if there's anything that they can do to accommodate us, to help us. Um, we're still waiting on a response. They have not responded to that latest email which he sent
today. Um, and that's it. Once the pool company come and do their their work on Thursday, they said the pool has to be running so to make sure the levels and everything is right. So that's why Mr. Carney asked the Department of Health if they can come out early next week. They responded and said the earliest they had was the 27. We're still trying to see if
they can come out sometime next week because once they're done, then we're done. >> Madame manager. Okay. Yeah, I heard your concern. >> Okay. About it. Um but my concern is why we have to begging that company to come and maintain out
output in the part. >> We're we're not begging the company. >> It's the it's the um the the inspector >> department of health. >> Department of Health. Oh, okay. That's not the company that they Okay. That's the department. Okay. >> Yes. >> Yeah. All right. So, you got your
answer? >> Yeah. I hope that don't happen in the future again. >> All right. So, looking at all of the events, um you said everything is the same. The only thing, madam manager, we talked about moving money for the businesses, the you have the 280 for the
Arabian Nights and City's birthday. >> So, so staff put everything to the same, but we would like for you all to go through it. challenge. I was going to say, can we reduce that? >> No. >> No. That's what we that's what we want. We put everything the same with hopes that the commission will go through it
and say, you know what, this year we may not want to do this or this year we may want to cut this. That was our hope. >> Okay. So, we we went big because it was the 100. I know we we want to continue the Arabian Nights Festival, but without the donations, where did we land?
>> Without the donations, we would have went over. >> We would have went over. Yeah. So, did we do the 250 or we went we a little under or >> spent the entire budget? >> SP the entire budget. So, can we remove the $20,000?
No, sorry, that's not 20. That's 30,000 and just make it a 250. So, that that'll give you 30 that'll give you 30,000 right there. I knew you was going to make us do this. That's why um uh I think our biggest expense well bingo
is a 22 but you know we you can't uh karaoke is big. What is this? Fourth of July. Did we Fourth of July? Did we use everything? >> Fourth of July. >> I want to go from the big expenses.
I believe we did, but we did have um some money from Junth that was brought over to Fourth of July. So, Fourth of July did not go over. I can tell you that. >> Okay. So, the 25th, >> but we have to keep in mind that I don't know if Fourth of July should be cut because of the cost of fireworks.
>> I don't think that should be cut. >> All right. Um >> question I I don't see where you can cut other than Arabian Nights and City's birthday. the toy drive six tree lighting ceremony
one Easter 25 Junth um Labor Day MLK pool party >> while you're going through that Mr. Mayor M. >> Yes ma'am. Yes ma'am. >> Um you know I um I struggle with my with
our largest um is uh bingo. I think that I want to take my 850 and for Memorial Day and move it over to bingo
the 850 for Memorial Day pool party And I'll figure out I'll figure that out going forward. >> The the gun buyback we didn't do this year. So, um and normally that's through the police department, but I asked it to be an event. Actually, we haven't done
it in two three years. Three years. So, I guess we can move that. Also, the mayor's business lunchon next the new one wants to do it. So, that that right there is um 2500. Um you also have the 5K run, bike, walk. Unless Urban is
going to take it or Okay, we can leave that. Then you have So that that right there, M manager, you have um so far 32500. Uh anything else that you you you you pay you make the payment. So any other
events that you think we can actually cut with your recommendation or decrease? >> And if I may, um Meta Manager, please be frank with us. Yeah, >> so the events, the numbers that you see here are not
actual numbers because it does not account for staff overtime. Our staff overtime is a large expense because we have staff at all of these events. >> And I think you we talked last year this
time about including that number within the proposed budget for events. May I ask you a question before we continue to asking to the manager? Um to the finance department. Madame
manager. Oh, I see. For the year for the fiscal year 20 27, we budget in morning again for Arabian night. That's what we were talking about before. That's correct. >> Correct. That's me. Uh I see Arabian
night is going to have papar. Where is Arabian night again? Christmas Arabian night. We're going to have $280,000 again. >> So yes, that's what was mentioned. Staff left everything the same with looking
for direction from the commission on telling us what we what you all want to see. if you want to see these numbers reduce, if you want to see the the event go away, but we need some direction from the commission. >> Good. Okay, that's my question. I I know that we go already pass through that,
Mr. Mayor. But let me let me say that. Okay, I believe that the amount of money that we use this year is because we have the anniversary of the city 100 years to celebrating together. >> Yes or no? >> Yes.
>> Okay. But the Arabian Nights festival itself a lot of money as well. >> Yeah. But I don't I don't think that we need that type of of you know morning for the next year to celebrating that again. Okay. We had to go down and reducing that amount because what we can
use is you know try to doing it uh when private entities that they want to come incorporated with us and celebrating something for the whole community for everybody. >> What's your recommendation? My recommendation, my recommendation,
$280,000 again for that type of event at Evian Night. Not good. I I wanted to reducing it to $50,000. >> No way. >> I don't think 50,000. >> Oh, yes. Mr. Santiago. >> Oh, yeah. Let's get Let's get it. And and and let me tell you something. I
believe by January 1st, 2027, that event right there is not in the list for the event. Okay. That the federal governor or the state government they want to all celebrating like mayor
like photo July is an event that is going to be covered. Yeah. For because photo July that's a national that's a national day. Okay. But Arabian is not a national day. I'm very sorry for that. Is that a national day? >> Okay, madame manager, I I hear you, Commissioner Santiago. I
>> Mr. Mr. Mayor, right now we are in in a position that we need money for other uh problems that we have in the city. I think that we spend a lot of money in that week out here and the next celebration, you know,
for the Arabian night or the or the 101 years uh for the city. Okay, we supposed to, you know, reducing and celebrating locally here in the city. Now, I I'm not happy to bring another festival like that for $180,000.
No way. Mr. I I would like to say to leave it the same and we do it in May. If we don't spend it all, then we do a budget amendment and ship and shift whatever we don't use to a place that we
could use it. I rather us have the money and don't use it all than to not ha I mean to not have it but still use it because I don't see this being and and it's it's a staple of our community.
It's been around for years even though it took a hiatus but to drop it drastically or to drop it period and then we need it. Um, if I may, you may not know the information off hand, but madam manager, do you know
how many do how much we received in donations? Um, >> I do not have it off hand. I do have it, but I don't have it. >> No, I figured you wouldn't, but it wasn't like no 50, 60, $70,000. No, >> it's pretty good. It was probably close to 50.
>> But the but >> I don't have the exact number. >> The problem that we had even when we were begging because we were last minute and even now most people are doing their budgets. So, if we're going to seek donations, it would have to be now. Like, we should be sending out letters, which we've tried to start already,
sending out letters to everybody to say, "Put us in your budget because everybody's doing this process." >> Correct. >> But the problem we were we're a little behind the eightball, which is why I said if we're going to cut just the 30,000, which was for the birthday part of it, take that back. >> But the 250 I think should remain. And
like Commissioner says, if we don't use it, then we put it back. I whether the the have it and don't need it then the need it and don't have it and then we can cut other places in the >> what places you want to cut and >> we that's what we were doing before you went back to it. We started off with
30,000 then we found two two um $2500 and we were going through it. >> Um Mr. Mayor and my colleagues, let me ask you uh madame manager um what kind of benefit benefits or profits that we
do in the last pass of celebration of Arabian night? Yeah. What positive we have that we receive that donation that we talking about the you don't know the number exactly? >> Budget just gave me the number. It was 55,000.
>> 55,000. Okay. is ask me what kind of or help is that for the city because even you reduce that $55,000 okay that we receive we still spending like $230,000 in that night.
Oh yeah it mean it's not it's nothing it's not helping us. >> Commissioner Sant I think we all understand what you're saying but Arabian Knights is our culture. We wanted it back and if we're going to >> Arabian Knight is your culture. No it's not it's not your culture. He's a culture for everybody here in the great
city of Opalaka. Let me and let me tell you this, okay? If we're going to talking about, you know, cultury, I believe cultury is uh the week that we the month that we celebrating that is is the uh approved of the federal government. Okay. The uh the um
African-American month. Okay. The black history month. Okay. That's one. Okay. Arabian night is something that we do here in Opalaka. >> Yes. the city's culture. >> Okay, >> we celebrate the city's history, >> but we can celebrate him, you know, with
not that cost. It's too much money, sir. And let me let me let me tell you loud and clear. Okay, I really I really know that this year we're going to have uh changes. Okay, I don't know what kind of changes, but we're going to have changes
here in this chamber. And there's going to be the responsibility for whoever uh take over. Okay. uh that seat there that you're sitting right now. Okay. And it's going to be uh in the in the in the in the shuttle or that person. Okay. All
the expenses that we're going to have next year. >> Commission responsibility. >> I don't respond to messiness and pettiness, but I will say this. I'm still the mayor now. >> I know. >> So, yeah, there will be changes, but we have a fiduciary responsibility right now to pass a balanced budget.
>> I know. >> So, that's what we're doing now. So we can have talking about what's going to happen, the changes that are coming down the pipe. But we're here now. So if you have a suggestion, you have a suggestion to decrease it. We've heard it. We've heard it and we're listening to it. >> Okay. All right. If it does, that's the
way that you say. I don't try to. I only tried to tell you what is the reality of that. $280,000 is too much money for >> We heard that. I don't we all agree. Hence why we're trying to figure out how how can we remove some of this money. >> Okay. Thank you, sir. I'm sorry for fee.
That's it. >> Moving on. >> Hope it works admin. M >> M Mr. Mayor. >> Ma'am, sorry. >> I didn't do it, man. So, I I'm not sure where monies for a
swearing in ceremony after our next election will be included, if it will be included under special events, but I know we didn't require one this current budget year because we only have elections every two years, but I I'm asking if there can be monies allocated
towards a swearing in ceremony. Um, which we do have every two years. >> All right. So, madam um madam manager, do you I mean madam uh clerk, how much do you normally use?
>> Um I I'm not sure what was budgeted for last time, but I I mean ma madam manager, do you have a >> we would have to from and Floyd you can correct me if I'm wrong. In the past we taken it from non-dep departmental general expenses.
>> That's correct. We have funding >> well set aside there. >> We have it. So the mayor's business lunchon is $1,000. The buyback program is $1,500. So that right there is $2,500. You think that's good enough for a swing there? >> Just keeping not in mind that you know we normally get food decorations and
$2,500 may not cut. >> No cut it. >> It's is is that's not going to cut it. But we'll have to take it from non-departmental which we have $37,000. Not to say we're going to spend the whole thing, but because we have other expenses that come from that line item, but we do have funding there.
>> Okay. So, you also was asking for recommendation as it relates to the events. So, um whatever you decide, Madam Manager, I think the budget I like what Commissioner Irvin said. I rather have it and don't need it and need it don't have it. But I would not mind you taking the 30,000 clay and just making
it like it was before for the last two years. The 250 >> and then that that a free >> Maybe we need to separate the Arabian Nights from the birthday celebration. >> That's what I was saying. Take away the city's birthday celebration. I mean the 30,000 just take it away.
>> But this year the birthday upcoming budget it won't it shouldn't be so big because it's not a centennial. So it should be something very small. Yeah, that's why I said take the details and we can do something >> like a one day event instead of weekend
>> I I have a question. It's it's really not it's parks and wreck but it's not um events. Madam manager, I think that and we have to hire somebody. I'm assuming I don't know if FPNL will do
it. I think that Shbundi needs to have a professional um electrical company come out and survey that building because I'm um I was told from the the pool guy that it
was FPNL sent too much voltage. That's what burnt the pool pump. >> Last week we only had half the building. >> Yep. And we had to call FPNL back out to address that issue. and every night for whatever reason we can't turn off the lights in the auditorium. So I think
that that building really needs to have a I don't know what it would cost us. I don't know if it need to be reflected here in the budget but that building needs um to be evaluated but electrical wise >> uh question madame manager
>> in the maintenance that we have in polish work that we don't have a professional electric person certified for the city >> how we fixing the problem that we have in other building that we have the city has an electrician, but the issues that
Commissioner Urban is referring to was something that was done by FPNL. So, I think she and I can't speak for her, but she's asking if we can have somebody look into what the issue is. So, when I spoke to the pool company yesterday, he also told me that FPNL put too much voltage in it and that's what blew out
the pump. And then we had an outage there. Mr. Carney had to call FPNL back out. They had to correct some issues that they that that was on the FPNL side. It wasn't the city side. So, we do have to answer your question, yes, we do have an electrician, but the issues that Commissioner Irvin is referring to were
not something that our electrician can can do. It was an FPNL issue. >> FPNL issue. It mean whatever they do there is affecting our building. Yes. >> Is is only burn the the the swimming pool system.
>> What about the rest of the uh building? It's not affecting because that >> No, it did not affect but the lights the lights were out. The the lights were out in half of the building. So, it did have some impact on the rest of the building and we had to call them back out to
adjust it. >> I I I only mentioned that because I believe in prevention. So, if we can prevent anything major from happening um and maybe FPNL will come out and do it for free. I don't >> So, they did come back out. The pool guy did tell me that FP they they had to
have FPNL come back out because the voltage that they put in there was too high. So they did adjust it. So it's right now it's correct. >> Okay. >> And that was based on my conversation on yesterday morning. >> Okay. I would still like for us to look into if just having that building
evaluated to make sure electricity is where it's supposed to be and whatnot. >> All right. >> Mr. Mayor, I just have a quick question since we're still in parks and I know my colleagues probably not will not agree
with this, but I'm just wondering why is it that we're paying for uniforms for so many activities and does any of the cost goes towards the parents >> when you say I may commission um I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Um, I can
>> I think the cost that Commissioner Bass is referring to is the cheer. >> Um, soccer. We don't have soccer. So, we're not uniform. I'm trying to figure out where on page 98 baseball, the
Optimus um, clubs uniforms >> and Mr. Griffin. >> Yeah. I'm just curious because my grandson pays and we play. He plays, but we paid. So, I just want to know. I'm not saying not to help our community, but I wanted to know if this is partial or we're taking on the whole brunt of um
uniforms and because everything look as if the city's paying for it. So, I I just want to know. >> I understand your question. Um, when it comes to uniforms, um, the parents pay for the game jerseys and stuff like that, but we have practice uniforms that we want to have
our kids look the same and, um, try and compete with some of the other, uh, parks in the area. So, that's probably what that uh, 3500 is for, if that answers your question. to the stalker uniform, cheerleaders uniforms,
um, basketball uniforms. I I just think that we're taking on a bit much. Again, I'm not saying not to help, >> but I'm thinking we can pull from this. I mean, if they can't afford the whole practice uniform, if we do half, yeah, but I think this is a bit much because
if you really want something, you'll work for it and you'll get it. >> I agree. Um but from my experience opal is a little different. >> Yeah. But we can't explain that. We got to raise >> I completely understand but
go ahead Mr. Mayor if if I may. We have uniforms. We do. They belong to the city of Opalaka. And every now and again we have to change those uniforms. So if you see
where kids get like right now they have a cheerleading package going on now but that is for stuff that the students I mean the players the residents keep the uniforms you see here is what we
loan them to play games and stuff like that. And then we have to maintain them, which I'm still trying to get that washing machine connected. Um, so they bring them back, we take them
from them after the game, stinky and all, and then we wash them and have them ready for the next game. And then those kids borrow those uniforms again. And we do the same thing every week. It's not theirs to keep, it's ours. And we just
we we act, we maintain them. They belong to the city, not to the residents. >> And every everything isn't free. They they do pay for, like you say, packages for football. They have uh their pregame, which is the tops and the bottoms and whatever jackets and stuff
that that we have per team or per organization. The cheerleaders wear their warm-ups and jackets, and they have um different things, cheer competitions and stuff like that. So, the parents do pay. >> Mhm. It's It's not free, but we we took that on because
>> we you go to Timber Pines and everybody have practice outfits and stuff like that. So, that's what we wanted to >> put in. >> I understand that and thank you for the clarification because I assume that, you know, we purchase and we just give it out.
>> Oh, no. We keep it's cities. >> Okay. Thank you. >> But it's budgeting. >> Yeah. Yeah, but if they part and pay it. Okay. Where is the money go after the part and pay that? Back to park and recreation or to the generator fund?
>> No, they just said that there's two sets of >> And now the new one for the 27 is going to be $1,65 649. That That's the cost that we have every year to run in park and recreation.
Madame manager. >> Yes. including special events that takes place that's including the special event portion of it. Yes, >> that's the money that we spend in park and recreation. That's not only Chavandi that we're talking about Helen Miller, Ingram Park. Uh what about the butterfly
park? That's part of us. >> All the talking we spending every year in parking the Bodger. The Bodger. >> Uhhuh. No, I don't know. That's another part of >> city parks >> and I have a lot of complaint about that little park.
>> Yeah. >> Okay. That it's only a question. What are they talking about? What are we spending in park and recreation every year? >> All right. >> And salary and everything is a million $65,000 we're going to have. >> Yes, sir.
>> Okay. With 390 being special events. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And that million something dollar is including the $280,000. 300 $387,350 total. Yes. >> Okay. Good. No more question,
>> Mr. Mayor. To the manager. Um I see we have like $1,000 here for golf cart repair. Um, we ha have to find a way um and and I know it's not we don't have it
in the budget, but if by by chance we get the opportunity, I know we have John Deere for the the the golf carts, but when there's a a event over in the pavilion, they load up all the tables
and all the chairs on the back of the golf carts and take them over there. And I'm hoping that one day a little piece of small two-seater pickup truck can come our way. We don't It don't have to be
new. It could be It could be on this last leg cuz we just need to move it from the the building itself to the pavilion. I just never think that it's um safe for us to do it, but it's the only way that we have to move our
equipment back and forth. And I don't think that even though it's a John Deere, I don't think it's meant for that. Maybe because it's John Deere, there's an attachment that maybe we can order to put on the back of it that allow us to safely transfer things over.
Um just something for us to look at hopefully. Or maybe we can. I'm sure Bobby can make it happen. >> No, Bobby, >> you can't. It was a joke.
It was a, you know, Bobby to fix it now. But just something to get to be a little safer. Okay. We're moving vacation. beautifification. We've increased their contracted
services to cover the increased cost of um landscaping services. >> Okay. >> Building and repair maintenance as well and some maintenance supplies. >> Got it.
And madam manager, I know that we had a um and we can move on. Just a quick question about the um Oh god. He said the what was the first thing you said? Landscaping. >> We had issue with the the the dumping dump. What was it? The pickup of excess
Oh god. What the people that that do the the alleys and they in their agreement. Yes. >> But they've been performing that service for us. >> Okay. Yeah. But I'm saying is this budget inclusive of that number? Because I'm I'm >> I'll check with um I know he's basing it
on um our our spending trend, >> but I'll definitely check with them. >> Okay, that that's my only question. Any other questions for building and maintenance? >> Yes. >> Um beautifification. I'm sorry. >> Yeah, we in the beautifification um
and budget. Uh very important because the city have to main you know clean all over around Madame manager and uh he touched something about the alleyways. Okay. About the alleyway what are we talking about there? You know the maintenance and the alleyway.
>> So their current agreement it they cut the alley but if it's furniture and debris in the alley their current agreement does not call for them to remove it. So um I have since told Mr. Carney to make sure that they provide that service to us. It's not including
the agreement, but we are paying for them to remove it. Now, >> very good point. Where is all that uh items coming from when they found uh you're talking about, you know, furniture that they throwing from where?
>> It's illegal dumping. >> And where did they find it? In the middle of the alley. >> Yes. >> In the middle of the alley. >> Yes. It's It's in some of the alleys. Yes. Well, I believe if they are in the middle of the alley, somebody had to, you know, see a coin enforcement, you know, like probably they coming from the
back job for somebody out there that they throwing out. Let's go after them. Because the other day, uh, we citing somebody, okay, that that he has some kind of box in his front of the yard that they match when the same boxer that
the other guy have across the street. Yes or no? code enforcement lady. Yeah. And uh we found out what you know what is the situation is when this type of problem that we have in the alley. If I found anything behind my house, it had
to come from my house or from the other side house. >> I don't know if you understand, you know, like illegal dumping. The only thing that I see illegal dumping is next to the alley but outside of the street that people pass it. No, it's it's
definitely in the alleys, too. >> In the alley. Yeah, but that had to come from that. Uh, and what are we going to do about it? Public work going to take care of that? Removing it or >> public works doesn't remove it. It's the contractor that's removing it. The contractor that cuts the alley, they're removing it as well.
>> And how do we going to know that they say the truth? That we going to have proof that they pick it out or whatever? >> Yeah, they we have Mr. Carney has pictures. They provide pictures when they when they give him an invoice >> and it's not there anymore. Hey, not that anymore. Yeah. Hey,
that's a good one. That's a good one. Let's be careful with that. And who do the meteors? >> The median's the same contractor. >> The same the same contract. But what is that median? It's only I think that's a
portion of 27 Avenue. >> 27. >> Yeah. From where to where, Mr. Carney? That's the jurisdiction of the city of Opalaka 151st to Northwest 127th Street
on 27th Avenue and also 22nd Opala Boulevard to 151st. >> To 151st. Thank you sir. >> Okay. Um under that contract madame manager I want to see uh really you know the maintenance doing right for that two
uh rows in the city because that's the one of the main interest that we have and I see Mr. Okay. Like I I don't know, but I don't see it a good maintenance and clean out these two areas and I I I
need to see more action out there >> and go for the middle. What about Shasar >> from 27 to >> same contractor? I could provide all the pictures you want. The cycles of two weeks every is a cycle of two weeks of cutting.
>> Okay. Yeah. That's part of the beautifification of the city. They're going to I'm going to be on top of that. Okay. >> Especially in shot that I see all this apartment now abandoning and you do you see that? Yeah. It's bad. It look very bad that area right there.
>> Yeah, we pick it up too. >> Yeah, let's pick it up and let's sight in and let's get you know see whatever we have to do to collecting some revenue for them. >> Mr. Mayor, if I may say, as we all know that it's it's summer time. Um my
husband just cooked the grass Thursday or Wednesday before we left and we got back last night and it's high. So and it's summertime. Weeds also grow faster than grass and I think that's a
lot that we have to take consideration of. I could tell that while I was gone that they cut the city, old city hall, but I can already see the weeds also are coming up because weeds grow faster than grass. And I think it's some things that
we have to look into. It's not going to always be a clean cut because in two weeks a lot can happen. So, I just kind of want us to keep that in mind, too. When we start complaining about the grass and the overage of um looking bad,
it's not that it looks bad. It's just that the weeds are growing faster cuz some of my other colleagues have complained and that's what it's about. >> Yeah, it does. Grass grows quick. And what we do in consideration in the summertime, they cut it twice. They
increase the cutting over the summertime and more rain season. >> Gotcha. Okay. >> Any other questions for of that um part? Moving on to public works. uh public works admin. The major change
to that is we moved the $115,000 for the consultant to the storm water fund. >> Can you repeat that again, please? Oh, when you pray me. >> Go ahead, sir. Thank you. >> We have removed $115,000.
>> We will remove $150,000. Mean less. They're going to have less. >> Yes. >> Budger. >> Yes. But that expense is now in the stormwater fund. That was for engineering services. >> And why we why we reduce that? What we
taking from there? because mainly the work that he has been doing is geared towards storm water engineering not necessarily general fund um costs. >> Okay. Um well we in public work I think it's a lot of thing to yes
>> you know to review. Okay. Um regarded about the water storm. No that's the water that we had to push out from the sewer. Uh madame manager um that we have published water to um
>> storm water is the for the storm drains on the street >> first uh with to the public >> area Austin public works director. >> Thank you Mr. Aston. I'm sorry madam manager.
>> Um madame manager I can asking question you know freely. Okay. Tell me a little bit about all over around the city and what I see. Okay. When all the pump station that we
have, that's part of this um uh program for the water storm. >> The pump stations are for our sewer sewer services. That's what takes the effluent or waste water from your home and conveys it to the county for
treatment. The storm water is just for the drainage systems. Currently, we do not have a storm water pump station. It's just a percolation system where it goes into the ground or it's conveyed to the canal
system. >> Okay. Um, madame manager, um, something that I see the other day, okay, in one of the areas that we have by, uh, the west side or Leune Avenue,
uh, I see there we still have some project going on. Incredible for so many years. And they told me that they already finished with that. But I see something that I I don't understand. How
can we still have there uh two pumps that we're renting and that's part of your budget for Polish work? Uh two pumps that we're renting out there and that's they told me that that cost like $35,000 a month.
>> May be referring to pump station number 16. >> I don't know if it does 16, but it's behind Ro. >> Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. There is nothing to do with Mr. >> that they told me that's poly work. >> No. And good afternoon, Adrina, CIP
division manager. Uh the pumps that you see there are part of the project and they are included in the budget of the project. So uh those are the bypass pumps that are are being you are being utilized to convey the waste water at this moment. The project is not finished
yet. That's pump station 16. This is still on the way. That's probably Yeah, it's like in a little >> Yeah, it says in the in the corner of 43rd and 133rd >> and now that you're there, you know, I
believe that's, you know, part of the um uh Polish words items, >> but let me say that. Okay. When they're going to finish that project, >> those are uh those press are estimated to be finished by the end of the year. We're having back and forth with those
projects uh due to some unforeseen circumstances that have passed in the couple of Okay. >> construction. >> Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Adelina. Madam Manny, I I want to I want to leave that, you know, out of the conversation right now because I think that we're going to have a conversation regarded about that.
Okay. Between me me and you because I had some kind of information, okay, coming from the people out there and from the company that I prefer to discuss with you. Okay. Thank you, Adelina. Thank you. Thank you, M. Oh, let's continue with publish work. Okay. I'm sorry, Mr. I believe that's your
project. Okay. But it's not um No, we're going to keep you know going because now it's going to come to the good part. Okay. for the money that we spending in uh may
uh gas and all the vehicle that we have here in the in the city. >> So you're right. So right now he's on public work public works administration. Public works has multiple divisions. So he's going to go through each one. Roads
and side streets and sidewalks vehicle maintenance. So it's it's several divisions within public works. So right now he's on administration. >> Thank you. Okay, let's go. >> Any questions on administration? >> What? What happened? >> Any questions on public works administration?
>> Yes. Uh like I asked him for that number before and they say to me just wait when we came to this part for public work. Okay. I like to know okay what is the expenses that we have in maintenance for all the equipment
that we have in polish war that's including the police cars that the officer use every day >> that's going to be on page 114 when we get when we get to vehicle maintenance he's going to go he's going to go on
that one but right now he's on administrative >> that's part of the budget for that department, >> right? But >> and that's including also, you know, some cut for the police department. >> Yes. >> Okay. And then you want you want to wait the week when we get there.
>> Yes. >> Thank you. >> No problem. >> Any more questions on page 107? >> Streets and sidewalks will be next. Yes. 112. Uh just increases in salaries and
benefits. There's some increases in electricity for public works and that's for the street lights. citywide. >> Okay. Yeah, I heard about that before
the expension that we have. But do we receive any what are we calling M manager? Uh franchise from FPNL. >> Yes, we do. >> And that franchise that we receive is
not covered up that amount of money the we re we receive. >> Yeah. remember something the FPNL they uh they giving the power to the whole uh city residential and commercial that we don't receive anything for that for them
for the state or whatever >> for franchise fees we're looking to collect $ 1.5 million in franchise fees from FPL >> one $1 million >> 1.5 million >> okay and that's not covered up uh that
money that we receive for them, you know, to this, you know, to discount the electricity or power that we use in the city and buildings. And you told me that we we had to pay for the light, a street light. >> Yes. >> So, it goes into the general fund and
that helps offset some of the expenses >> for that department >> for all >> for everybody if they always sit. Okay. Well, uh that's something to think in the future to see how can we reduce, you know, the cost or the uh power that we
use in the city. And I think I we'll be talking about one of these day uh to come in when a plans to only make uh the city operating four days a week. the when one day a week we're going to
be saving a lot of money in cost through oper operation in the city. >> Um I have a question. I I noticed we went down on the tipping fees is not that expensive or
>> uh that's just a nominal cost, but the real tipping fees are already paid out of these water and sewer fund. The bulk of it. >> Okay. I was just curious. I didn't cuz I rather us need it I mean have it and don't need it than need it and don't
have it. Yeah. >> Okay. Any more questions for public works roads and sidewalks? >> Well, yeah. Um, Commissioner
question is, uh, we're talking about sidewalks. >> The the the department repair the sidewalk because I think Adelina had that program when Grams before. No, that's public work.
public works director. Public works does repairs to sidewalks and e elevated or or damaged sidewalks. We do repairs in CIP. They're rolling out the addition of sidewalks in areas that did not previous
had sidewalks or to improve the sidewalks where they're not the right width. >> They're taking out the old sidewalks and replacing it with the correct width sidewalks. uh uh how we doing in the uh our personnel uh in Polish world that we
have enough people to do the the work that we really need in the city. >> We we have made great strides in recent recent months. Uh we still a couple people but we've we've made great headway in addressing our deficiency in
staffing. >> And and just to add to that, public works had the positions but they were vacant. So they are filling those vacancies now. They just brought on quite a few um new employees to fill those vacancies.
>> Yeah, that's a good to know. Maybe me um you you still have more uh vacancy uh position there for work for workers, you know, to publish work. I hope I hope we can fill it out because that's okay. Part part of the uh assistant that is
going to help the city to look better. U madam manager therefore we had the the right personnel there in that department. Uh police work for me is important department because is the maintenance of the city everywhere
street road sidewalks pump stations storm water. Thank you, madame manager. >> Any more questions for roads and sidewalks?
>> Okay. Vehicle maintenance. >> For vehicle maintenance, we increased our gas, oil, and grease expense to account for increased cost over the current fiscal year. We have also reduced some expenses in
contracted services as well. Whoop. And this is where you asked a question regarding >> Yeah. What is the increase that we have in the maintenance? >> We had an increase for uh accident repairs and other
>> accident repair. Yes. A question. um in in the type of item madam manager of the that we don't have no insurance to cover it off all these cars that we don't have we don't have to put it out from our pockets >> we do in some cases we depending on the
cost of the repairs our deductible may be higher than the cost to make the repair >> wow >> so um but we and if we do go through our insurance company we still have a deductible that we have to pay >> yeah what is that deductible that we have right now >> do you have it's currently $1,500 per
per incident. >> $1,500. Well, not bad. Not bad because in my commercial policy that I have for my business, my uh the money that I have to pay for out of that is $2,500, but it's good. $1,500 I don't think is bad.
But we have a policies that cover up, you know, repairs, accident repair in our automobiles. >> Yes. If it exceeds $1,500. Yes, sir. >> Oh, okay. >> Then we'll go through our insurance company to get it paid for.
>> Yeah. They covered up also, you know, like total loss. >> Yes. >> Total loss in our vehicles. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay, that's good to know. Okay, that's not a problem with that. Okay, let's keep going down to mains. Okay, um I asking you what is the uh uh what is the
money that we added to the new budget coming up in 27? because I what I see here in uh la this year we are spending uh $8005 and for the next year is going to be 826
no well close to 20 uh to yeah to 8 probably to 827. Yeah. So a lot of that cost came from we have to remember a lot of the most of the public works employees are ASME
employees. So we had to account for their increase which means that their insurance and FICA will also go up. So that's an increase. Um they did slightly go up on gas. >> I think $10,000 for gas. So those are
the increases within this division. >> $10,000 for gas. >> They increased it. >> Wow. Okay. All right. Okay. That's okay. Now we coming with that. Okay. Um in the in the vehicle repairs and expensor that we have uh you know gas. Okay. For both
department for all the department of police department uh police work, parking recreation because parking recreation have cars too. No >> assigning for recreation has the the senior's bus that takes a lot of gas. the vans
>> that's included in in the budget >> all city um vehicles >> what is the amount that we spending in that in repairs mains >> so >> and gas >> all combined for repairs which includes other contracted services fuel
maintenance and repair parts tires uh thus far as of the 7th of J July we spent $373,728 3003. >> Yes. >> Can you say again that amount?
>> 300 373 728 68. >> Okay. Wow. That's only for after today. >> Yes, sir. >> After today. Okay.
And how can we um reduce that cost? Mr. Do you have any idea in place or >> Well, as previously discussed, uh a a a great cost reduction would be the idle times of vehicles which we address in
public works and now it's going to be also addressed in in our enforcement department. >> Yeah, madame manager, that's what we'll be talking about. Okay. that if we come with something soon, okay, and our police department and your department
also, okay, like to not let Okay, that cars be using out of the hours that they using it for public safe or for public work here in in the in the city. Uh that's mean not take that car home uh
50, 70, 100 miles from the from here and left the car on the whole day when you eating. That's another one. I think that we we can reduce that probably half or the cost the police have
>> not sure it could be that drastic commissioner. >> No. Well, I believe yes. If we if we made the rules and we made, you know, to be done, we get whatever we need to do in it, we're going to saving money in there.
And that repairs, tires, everything, every day. >> So, so far for the year on tires, we spend 10,827. >> Oh, that's separate of that. >> No, that's in there. That's in there in the whole cost. Yes. >> Yeah. It's a lot of tires. Yeah. >> A lot of cars.
>> A lot of cars, too. Yeah. And how we doing? And and the repair that we have the personnel, the mechanic that they can fix in the cars there. AC, uh, you know, transmission, whatever. Why we had to go out and and and bring the car out? Why
>> transmission and repairs are external services? Um for >> external services is out. >> Yes. For >> not in >> other contracted services. Yes sir. >> Contractors. Yeah. That's separate of this. >> Yes. That's that's included in this. >> That's including here too. >> Yes sir.
>> Yeah. It is more comfortable, more easy, less expensive when we doing it outside. We're doing it in house. We do not have the equipment in house to do transmission repairs. Alignments and things like that are done on the outside.
>> Wow. Incredible. Because I see you have a very good shop there. >> Mechanic shop. Probably what you don't have is the people to do in the job. >> We have three uh fully certified mechanics. Yes, sir.
>> No. Okay. If if we have the certified mechanics that they cost us a salary every every week, they're supposed to, you know, uh take care of the whole fleet. That's what we we calling. Okay.
In the city because that's the reason why we have it there. That's the reason why he have there. If we have mechanic, why that I have to sending out my car to change oil? Why did I have to send my car out of still under maintenance? Right. >> Yeah. >> Under maintenance. Yeah. Oil and repairs
are done in-house, sir. >> Okay. Yeah. But what about the rest? I talking probably not not not the uh the part of the uh uh what are we calling collisions. Okay. Or uh body shot repair because we don't have mechanical. That's what I talking about. If we had three
mechanic, I think that's a lot of mechanic. That's enough mechanic to take care. HVSE systems, transmissions and other uh collision avoidance systems cannot be done inhouse because we do not have the equipment to do so inhouse.
>> I'm sorry that would be my question and I'm thinking they are certified. It's just that we don't have what they need to perform the jobs. >> Correct. Right. Yeah. >> Well, we have it for if we don't have the equipment >> because the equipment is too expensive. I'm sure it it wouldn't be feasible for us to
>> I want to be realistic. commission. I want to be real because right now you're being real. >> Hey, let's not take it so much, but we we can sit down individually with the manager and come with an idea. But listen to me. Um um Mr. Austin and madam
manager, I'm have a lot of experience in what is the industry for cars repair and that because that's my life. And let me tell you, okay, for chain transmission for for sure, okay, the only thing that you need is a jack to putting down the
transmission and the jack cost like $500, $800. Okay, that's like an example. Okay, equipment, they're not too expensive. Okay, we have company that they installing, you know, machine to alignment the car. We have also, you know, uh machine that you can have it
there that I see it they don't do anything there in Polish world to chain tires. Okay, they are there sitting down there and I don't see it. I say myself, okay, three mechanics, certified mechanic. It just mean they know how to work. But why we have it if we don't
have the equipments? >> Why? >> We do have the equipments to repair tires and we do utilize that equipment to change tires in house. >> Well, okay. We're going to make a review of that. Let's leave him there and now. But I want I want to go with my manager.
Okay. out there with the person that is in charge in the city and we and we going to be talking there, okay, to see what's going on. All right. But I try to reduce whatever expensive that we have in the city because it's coming years
that we won't have to know where we going to get money to keep and pay everybody here in the great city of Pala. >> Any more questions? Do you have any more a question? Just quickly, how many, if you don't know the exact number, it's fine, but how many um automobiles these three mechanics are servicing on
whatever level, it doesn't matter, but how many? >> I do not have that number available right now, but I could get that number back to you. >> I'm just curious. I want to know how many cars that we have in our fleet that they are servicing >> services that they running in the
street. and and also um uh my call and to the manager uh madam manager uh we had to see and doing like an inventory out there for whatever that we don't need no more >> we discussed that right >> yeah that's what we're going to do a
surplus we're going to be bringing that to the commission >> yes yes okay you know like see to see if we can get you know okay that's it we go home >> no no commissioner Bass has to leave Sorry, I'm scheduled to fly.
>> Have a good trip. >> Okay. Solid solid waste. >> There's no activity in that division. >> Okay. >> What what what do we have? >> Why we don't touch that?
>> There's no activity there. Oh, nothing there. Okay. No >> debt service fund. >> Yeah. The debt service fund covers the general general fund debt service obligations. And as stated earlier, we
there's currently no debt that is serviced by the general fund. So this fund will only represent the revenues coming in that what the monies that we pledged in prior debt service going back to the general fund. So there's a transfer of $3.6 million going back to
the general fund. >> If you look at page 126, it shows that all our debt has been paid off. >> That is definitely accomplishment. Thank you madam manager. That is definitely an accomplishment
to be debtree. >> Yes. >> Okay. Safe neighborhood. See, I >> not quite not quite debtree because we still have state of Florida the red light camera debt that we have to pay back starting with this budget. >> But that's minimal from where we started. >> Yes. 2.5 million.
>> It's minimal. Yes. >> How much do we owe? Uh >> 2.5 million. >> 2.5 million. >> Yes. >> Wow. that includes um as a total package includes interest and everything penalties whatever it is.
>> Okay. Safe neighborhood CIP fund. >> The safe neighborhood CIP fund is the general fund's arm of capital improvement and this is where we the general fund pays for capital improvements through a transfer to this fund. But this fiscal year for 2027,
we're looking at a $650,000 transfer in from the from the general fund to the safe neighborhood fund. And these will fund seven projects as you can see on page >> 131. >> 131 and the detail is on page 130.
CIP that's a department they are running >> a part of it yes sir >> okay um madame manager um all the projects that we have in that department is in the general fund
>> safe neighborhood right this is under safe neighborhood safe neighborhood >> yes no I'm talking in general whatever we do with CIP uh um CIP yeah Um because before I know that we work sometime with
grand that we received to do that. >> Yeah, we had a a lot of so you're going to see a lot of changes because a lot of those um projects were opera projects which we're we're not going to have anymore. We don't have the opera funds that those ARPA funds have been will be
expended um this budget. So you're not going to see that reflected next year's budget. the the only funds you're going to see for ARPA are the ones that going to be rolled over from 9:30 to the next fiscal year to next fiscal year to be
completed by December. So there's no fund there's no more funding for ARPA. So we just have to reappropriate fund balance from ARPA to finish those projects out. >> That's another challenge that we have.
Um, I have a one question. You said um there was six projects that were to be done. I thought they were listed somewhere. >> Seven page 30 >> back road on the back page. I'm sorry.
>> 130 and 131. >> Is it here where it says footnote? I see footnote details. >> Yes. fix it. Okay. Okay. >> Yeah. I know we've done a lot of sidewalks. Are we almost there with our sidewalks?
like completed with the new ones and the making them small ones bigger. Uh unfortunately not. and Adina Gross CIP division manager. We probably are I would say a new installation of
sidewalks around 45% uh completed once we get additional funding in the future which we already have applied for sidewall installations uh gaps
connection and also replacement that is going to be funded through uh the DOT uh lab uh plan, but it's future uh funding, but we still continue to improve every year and add additional
site so we can close some connections. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. any um any questions for uh safe neighborhood CIP fund? >> Well, you know what I see for that
department that they do a lot of things around the city and they make a lot of um improvement like that project that we have there in a 127 and I I see that great. you know what happened there and and the last time
that you say that we're going to be ending like December but they finished before that's something good. I hope that we that we have the funding to finish whatever we have there. I hope >> so for Kyle Lane and 127 street we are
we do expect to finish before December. We will not sure that because we can we don't know what's going to happen. However, um the funding for finishing the project, yes, it's it's budgeted. It's uh we already passed the change orders that were presented to the city
commission. We did had some issues with FPNL that's going to be also presented to the city commission as well. But yes, we are currently within the budget of the project. I'm okay. >> No more question.
>> Okay. Thank you. People's transportation plan. >> People's transportation plan fund. This is what covers the expense for the freebie and the um limousines of suffer bus around the
city. Currently, we are paying both and in discussion, we're looking to only have freebie. So, that would be a savings if freebie goes away. LSF, sorry, my bad. Not freebie. >> The idea is to get rid of limousines of
South Florida and bring on a um another vehicle with freebie. >> Wow. >> Yes. >> And they try to disappear the free. No, no, no. We We want to keep freebies, bring on an additional vehicle to eliminate the big bus, the limousines of
South Florida, because um we don't have a lot of wrership on the on that bus. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Town center. >> Town center fund is the fund that caters
to city hall. this building that we're in and there will be a transfer in of $150,000 from the general fund to help cover some costs. The revenues generated for the rental from the school is included.
>> What cost? >> Rental revenue. >> Well, we receive that money the city for rental. >> Yes. from the school that we have there for many that we have any rental for uh
for the county for the office that they using out there. >> No, the city of Opalaka has an agreement with the county so they don't have to pay for that space. >> Long time ago we had an agreement. Well, okay. Well, but that's a good way to get revenue, you know, with the city. We can
change it. >> Why not? Okay, that's one. Um, keeping going. What are you talking about? you know that and >> no I was saying that there's a transfer in of $150,000 coming from the general fund to help
supplement the town center fund >> and what are we going to use that money for madam manager >> of personal expenses >> the expenses are is on page 140 the expenses to take care of this building >> so the rental income alone cannot cover
the expenses for the entire building >> okay um something that I heard from public Um my Cali too. Okay. Uh is the complaints. Okay. For the service that we have in the elevators.
Okay. I know that elevator they already how how old that building is here? Like 30 years old. That for 2008 18 years. Okay. I mean that's elevator serving for 18 years already. I think it's time
madame manager to see if we can do something about it because it's every day they broke down and you know people scared to get stuck or that changing or do we have any plan
to or in the $150,000 is including that project for the elevators >> at this time we don't look to replace elevators there has been conversation about getting cost estimates to replace them. But so far we're still in that
process. >> But when that coming in the new fiscal year, can we have any funds for that? Because that I think that's uh something that is very uh important to do.
>> Uh oh, Mr. Yes, >> we are getting estimate to do the repairs for the elevator in the inter room. Do do we already have something in place? >> Yes. >> No, not replacing no replacing not at
the time but repairing it. Yes. >> I I prefer uh madam manager which is coming back. Okay. Um and my colleagues >> I prefer you know to to come with a plan
to replace okay. from brand new elevator, okay, to not keep, you know, spending money to general repair. >> We'll I'll have Mr. um I'll instruct Mr. Carney to go ahead and start getting quotes and we'll bring that to the commission because we're going to
probably have to do a piggyback or RFP because of the cost, but we'll bring it to the commission. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's very important. You know, that's part of the maintenance of the, you know, the facility that we have. And and I don't know in the future if we can come madam manager too uh to
make um uh what are we calling a cargo a a service elevator. >> So one of those elevators used to be cargo and they had to put the padding up in it. I don't know what happened why they switched it but one of them
>> cargo. Yeah, I understand that. But right now we have the city's moving uh and have more public coming to this, you know, to the building that from before. >> Okay. Before we don't have that traffic that we have today and that two elevator
we really need it only for private you know using it not for cargo because they put heavy stuff there or whatever they damage you know the the capacity of the elevator that we have in is not have to be now but can we come
also like when a project to see if we can build in the other side a cargo elevator a service elevator when you move furniture, when you move, you know, themes,
>> we can definitely see the cost and bring it to the commission cuz I'm sure that's going to be a significant cost. But, um, as far as replacing the current elevators, that's going to be a big cost as well. We'll bring it to the commission to see where we're going to take it from within this budget.
>> Okay. >> Remember that we had the same situation when we tried to bring, you know, the metal detector. We have it >> downstairs. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> No more questions. >> Water sewer operation fund summary.
>> Yes. This this um fund is the water and sewer fund and it's specifically geared towards revenues from the water and sewer billing and the costs surrounding it include maintaining service as well.
>> What kind of service we maintain maintenance there? >> Water. Water and sewer. >> Yeah. for how we m we maintenance how we cleaning the uh the sewer system or >> yes >> we pumping water >> distribution and everything
>> what do we do >> the administration >> we're on water and sewer operating fund >> the water and sewer uh more specifically this is for the overall water and sewer
divisions which includes uh waste water, drinking water and meter meter repairs. And part of this is for the administration of that fund which is conducted by the county.
>> Yeah. Okay. We're talking about when a pipe is broke in the city public is the one go there and repair. We don't hide in any company for that. No, >> that's that's in another division, another department which we haven't gotten to yet. How many division we have there for the same place?
>> We we have a lot sir. >> Is that necessary madam manager to have all the division out there? >> Yes. Because some of their funding it comes from different sources. So we can't co-mingle it. So yes it is. >> It's actually specific departments.
>> Not departments. It's divisions under the public works department. >> Correct. >> On under you. >> Yes sir. Um, and this is including here the repair of the pump station and everything. >> That's in division 35.
>> That's that's another one. Division. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Any more questions for water and sewer operation fund? Go ahead. >> We can go to division 149.
>> Yes. Thank you. >> Water distribution. 149. Yes, >> we're ready. >> This division oversees the distribution of water throughout the city that we purchase from the county.
We have increased the cost for water purchase and we've also increased other contracted services. Okay. Any question for water sewer uh water divi dist distribution? Okay. Thank you.
Wastewater collection and transmission dis division. Sorry. 154. uh we've increased the sewage disposal cost and that is the cost to dispose sew
sewage to the county for treatment. You also increase contracted services and increase the electricity and gas expense as well in this division. >> Okay.
Any questions for wastewater collection and transmission? Okay. Water sewer finance and services division. >> This division covers the uh finance
aspect of the war and sewer fund which includes the expenses for the debt that is in the warden fund. >> Um >> and it actually went down, right? >> Yes. Great. Okay.
Any questions for water, sewer, finance, customer service? >> No. >> I just have a question. What was the cause for it going down? >> Part of it is tied to the the transfer or insurance risk that
that charge went down. Yeah. And the transfer to capital projects >> at the bottom. Prior years we had $2.1 million in capital expenses. And now for 27 we're looking at 1.45 million.
>> Okay. >> Okay. water ser uh service line and meter maintenance division. >> This division deals with the maintenance of the water lines and meters. >> Mhm.
>> Uh nothing much has really changed except for the increase in repairs and maintenance to some water meter expense. >> Um wait a minute. Oh >> page 163. >> Page 163. >> Yes, sir.
Okay. Yeah, I have a couple of question, Matt. >> Okay. Go ahead, sir. >> Uh um the water meters. The water meters. That's a very good uh point that we have
here. Who who is in charge, madame manager, to installing, you know, the installation and mainly for the uh water meter. I want to know if if is ours or is the
county. Go ahead, Mr. Austin. >> Miami date county is responsible for the installation of water meters. The public works line repair division is responsible for the upkeep of the meter boxes. Uh as it rains, debris gets in
the boxes. Uh they have leaks in the boxes that we have to maintain. That's done by public works. But the other other aspect of replacement of the meters is done by Miami date county. >> Okay. And who pay for the the repair
that you do? >> That's that's the >> us. >> That's us. Yeah. >> Us >> in this budget. >> And that's um u my colleague say before that why why you know we had to giving everything you know to day county. Okay.
the responsibility of the water. They collecting the money. They uh you know they do whatever they want. They sending high bills. They every day is complain. It's not us. Okay. They willing to you know to the public. Okay. And we had to
go and when we have any situation like one situation that we have a couple of months ago when one of the people lasso okay nobody know who is responsible you know who break the meter who going to fixing it. Thank the administration or
my manager Chamea. She resolved that problem right away. But we they be charge him about something that he don't do. Why we had to pay it? That responsibility to fixing the middle the leak and everything that had to be them.
We had to change that policy. Madam manager, we had we had to sit down with them. If it's not, I hope they giving back to us a water system here in Opalaka. And let me tell you, I know that we don't we don't own any money to
them. No, we don't want we don't want money. But they own they own money to us. >> They own anything to us? >> Not that I'm aware of. We pay We owe them. >> We pay them. >> We paid our debt off. >> Our debt. Yeah. >> Yes. >> Already. And we keeping, you know, under
the rules. And I hope we can get revenue for the rents for the you know the place that they using here in the building soon. And that repair we're going to talk about it mad the manager. Okay. We don't have we we we don't we're not
responsible for that. No more question. >> All right. So we moving on to the next item. >> Page page 167. >> VIP the fun stuff. This division covers the CIP manager's
division and her operating expenses. The changes are due to the salary and benefits. Operationally, her expenses has decreased. >> So, you're saying there's no fun stuff?
>> We passed it, right? The fun stuff, the projects. No. Oh, okay. We have more. >> But he did mention it was seven. That was at a few pages before. >> But we have >> we have the storm water cip and we have wardens CIP.
>> Okay. So we coming. Okay. All right. Moving on. >> Warden CIP. This division covers all the capital expenses related to the warden division. Um so fund sorry and currently we have
three items funded for FY2027 pump station 4 relocation pump station 12 rehabilitation and Alexandria Drive water main improvements. We're talking about now the water pumps, huh?
The the pumps that we repair, the pumps that we have, no in the city. That's what we be talking now. Water and sewer. No. >> And this is water and sewer CIP funding. This is for the rehabilitation or replacement of current pump stations or
any addition that will be needed. Uh for next fiscal year, we are going to be uh relocating pump station 4, which is partially funded through uh county uh through a county grant. And we are also
doing the design or finalizing the design of pump station 12. And the other project that is listed is Alexandria Drive water main. >> U Mr. Amen. >> May I ask what uh where is pump number
four now and where are we relocating it to? >> So we are relocating it to uh an eastman so an eastman that was provided to the county is right is very close to the current location and exat street. Yes
I don't recall the street but I can provide information. >> Okay. >> He doesn't recall the street also but we can provide information. Is is right next to it. But uh it's currently is most on the middle of the street. So
it's basically a hazard. So we are that's why we are relocating the pump station. >> Okay. >> Question referable. >> Thank you madame manager. C I know C CRP is another department you
know separate for public work but it's the city and everything that we spend is coming from the general fund or whatever fund is that we have >> uh questions to Mr. uh through the manager Mr. Okay. Um let me ask you a
question in public work I see a lot of equipment that you have there you know under the big uh roof. Um, does the city own any uh pump for pumping water out or
>> We own several pumps, sir. We have >> How many? >> We have about four sanitary sewer pumps. Okay. >> And one storm water pump. >> Okay. This is the similar pumps that we have in Pawn Station 16.
So yes, those are similar pumps that we have on pump such as this thing. However, let me let me finish. >> No, no, no, no. I'm >> No, no, no. That and that that's not what I meant. But however, those pump those two pumps that you see at pump station 16, those are part of the
contract. The So the >> we pay it, >> we pay it, but it's included as part of the construction project. So it's not additional cost. This is included in the 949,000 that is for the
replacement of the bond. >> Wow. >> Yes. >> That's including there. >> Yes, sir. >> In the 900,000 >> $949,000. Yes. >> Yeah. A million dollars. Yeah. Well, >> this is a funded project through ARPA.
Oh, >> if they belong to them, they not spending no money because that that pump to running that two pumps that they have there a year, it cost like $840,000 a year is me. They doing that even that work free. That's good.
>> That was part of their proposal. So, it's >> part of the proposal. >> Yes. >> No, I only asking because for the future we it's nothing that we can do now because they have there. But in the future if we have that uh you know equipment or machine that we can use
it's going to saving a lot of money to us. A million dollar for me is a lot of money saving for the city. >> Uh commissioner the contractor is responsible to keep the system running while they are doing the project. So that has to be included as part of their
project. If we place our pumps out there, it will cause a maintenance issue for the city because we will have to take care of those pumps if anything happens to them. >> Okay. >> What do we have that pump for if we
don't need it? >> Uh the bypass pumps that we have right now. >> Yeah. for the for the poly works department or for the pump. >> We don't use any. >> No, sir. We do use those pumps when we
perform maintenance or repairs at our pump stations or when there's a failure. >> All right. That's what I want to know. Thank you. Are we going to storm water? Stormwater operations fund
>> and Stormwater CIP. You could just roll right into it. >> No question. >> There's an increase of $115,000 in professional services in the storm water expense and that is the expense that was transferred from public works
admin for the engineering services. Okay. Any questions on storm water? >> All right. CIP in the CI somewhere the CIP fund we are doing eight projects.
We'll be continuing the resiliency study northwest 147 street improvement Naz Naz garden drainage Alexandia Drive that's in the planning and development stage 133rd Street project
is that so the 133rd Street project is yeah sorry >> 131st >> 131st um is that just for the just for the the plans right or something or is that the actual start of the project or uh for 171st Street project. That's for
the actual construction of the project. >> So that's going to start this fiscal year. >> That's mill. >> Yes, we are in the in the permits um area. >> Okay, perfect. >> And Commerce North for 131. >> Okay.
>> The 150 for Ky Lane is just a rollover in the in the stormwater CIP fund. Okay. The only other question I have um for um to Adelina 147 Street. I thought we were done. We're >> not.
>> Two years ago, the city did uh some drainage did in actually add some drainage in the middle of the street. That drainage it's working, but it's not sufficient to cover the area. So the plan is to add the additional drainage that is needed so the street starts
flooding for in the upcoming years. So we actually just added like six structures in the middle of the street does not cover uh what's needed because this the whole system needs to be implemented but it was done as a
mitigation strategy at that moment because that funding was not available. >> Okay. So this is from 147 street side or what drains to 27th Avenue? Yes, sir. >> I guess my next question is off um but madam manager I know that the county is
doing road work on 22nd Avenue and they're coming up to opal lockup. Have we renewed that when they dig we can work we had one with them before that when they dig and they're doing work in for infrastructure that the city can also work down there before they cover it
back up. Yeah. But I thought we had anou. So we don't have one. >> We don't have a standingou right now, sir. >> So maybe we should push one through. So when they come when they come up that 22nd Avenue corridor, cuz I remember
27th Avenue, they did it. They did 27th Avenue now, but now they're coming up 22nd. I don't know what's in that area, but it's if we need to do work, then it's open and less expense. All right, moving on to the next one, which is opera.
So by December 2026, opera funds should be fully expended. Uh the expense you're seeing here is just income coming in from opera interest and being expensed. So currently there are opera projects
going on right now. So what will happen is that once new year rolls over, we'll roll over those funds from from our fund balance to cover remaining costs of the project. >> Okay. And the what we incurred for the um interest was
what is that going to the general fund? We're using for other stuff >> as a matter >> related to ARPA or >> Yes, it is ARPA. >> Got it. Okay. >> We're moving on to it. information risk management. >> Risk management.
>> What better information? >> There's no tab for it in my book. It goes it go straight to um No, my next my next tab is information >> and technology internal services for 196.
So you want us to go to 193. Okay. So we we had some um the high schoolers help us. >> Okay. No, that's all right. I'll change it in my book. So the next one is
mismanagement and it's those it's the >> I had a few that didn't have tabs. I was like a crazy. >> So the risk management overall expense slightly reduced >> and that is due to some savings and our insurance premium.
>> Okay. All right. Okay. Off subject. Madam manager, I know um the one meeting that we have in August will be for insurance. What does that look like? Have we have they gave us numbers yet? our a No, our agent of record is out there now trying to get um
quotes, but no, we don't have those numbers yet. >> Okay. All right. Any questions on risk management? >> Yeah. All right. So for for the IT department, um it was
it's been proposed that the one vacant position that's included in the budget in 2026 be split in two for two part- timerrs. >> Okay. And that will change. Also,
there are increases in contracted services, telephone, internet, and software licensing. >> Got it. >> A part of the internet cost is to do with the movement of housing, housing services, housing services to the new
building. There's also a cost in there for police department's backup for internet services. As for software licensing, we have our new ERP software that we're using right now. However, we're still currently
running the current software that we have concurrently with the new one. So, we have to uh budget for expenses for the for both softwares. Got it. Any questions for the it?
All right. Moving on. Go ahead. May maybe not in this budget, but if we can, Madam Manager, um in Shabbundi, we need we need um some sound like ceiling
sound. Um maybe not this budget, but for us to look, you know, further down the road. Okay. Our next one is the special law enforcement trust fund. This fund covers the cost of
the shot spotter equipment for the police department, some bulletproof vests, and the cost of lease vehicles as well as um undercover vehicles. Okay. Shot spot is still um coming through the federal government or we're actually
paying for it now. >> We're paying for it. >> We're paying for it. All right. Matter. We might want to put that in appropriations for the federal government. All right. Thank you. Our next one is the LEF
that covers uh education and supplies for the police department including ammunition and train training materials and that's it. Why is that a a separate line
item if you will versus combined in the police budget run by We have this the special law enforcement fund as well as the >> CTF. >> Yeah. >> Is that a >> there are two sources of two different
sources of income of revenue. >> Okay. No, I figured that much. I was just wondering why it wasn't with the police budget itself. But so some expenses we can take from that fund that we can fit into the general fund. Gotcha.
All right. And the last one is the glossery. You don't explain it. >> So just in general, the the police negotiations, >> the total cost of that is 1.3 $1.2 million.
In comparison to keeping the military the same, we're collecting an additional $1.3 million. So the net effect of we only getting $100,000 in addition. >> The manager already knows how I feel
about the military. >> But I hear you. >> We'll work on it year after next for you. I I'll make that promise to you. year after. That's why we want to keep it like this because year after next, we don't know what's going to happen with the property. Well, we got to feed him
something. >> And whoever made my book, they really don't like me cuz they the last page is all just >> I kids are still in training. Yes. I I do have a question. I'm not sure where it fell in here. I probably overlooked
it. Um, madame manager, um, I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor. May I >> go ahead? I'm sorry. >> Um, the money that we pay for the summer camp program that was in here somewhere. I must have missed it. I don't know what department it fall under. Yep. It's in
HR. >> HR. Okay. Um, I I have a question, I guess, that we'll bring it about at a later time. Um, but I want to see what what it looks like
for us to do that ourselves. We would have to probably reduce the number of kids or bring it in house cuz because remember they're matching what we match. So we budget for 50,000 and they match our 50. >> Mhm.
>> How many kids we Well, we got Oh, miss >> 37 kids. Okay. Okay, we'll talk. We we'll have a conversation about this a little more detail. Okay, no problem. >> I don't know about you, did you get any
I got calls. Did you get any calls about the summer camp program this year? >> Summer camp? >> I received calls, so I understand what you're talking about. I'm aware of it. Yes. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. >> All right. So, the next one is the we talked about the Oh, wait. the
discussion item which is the military and your proposal is can't bring it down. >> We can but we will need a cut in equal effect to the same amount. >> I I just have to be I have to be honest
and straightforward Mr. Mayor, and I know we've had this conversation about reducing the millage, and I know how you feel about it, but if we reduce that millage, the first recommendation I'm going to recommend is not fill the vacancies within the departments for
whatever department that have vacancies. We're we're going to lose those positions because we have to fill that gap from somewhere. >> Gotcha. All right. All right. The next discussion item you wanted to discuss was the um special
events which we somewhat did but we want to we we actually did not go into these special events. He did not. We >> all right.
Okay. I guess my question, Madam M, cuz the hour is far spent. What's What's your recommendation? >> That we do some cuts. My recommendation is that we we deal with the nationally recognized holidays that we celebrate those
holidays. And even if it means just doing it this year, then we can look at revisiting next year. But we have to make some cuts somewhere. >> What players? >> 97. >> The fact that y'all know about her is a
problem. Like she said at 97. All right. So that would mean the only national holidays would be um we have Christmas, the 4th of July, Easter, Junth, Labor.
Oh, right. That one, two, that there's a fourth column. Just those events. I get that right. >> We were on 97, correct? >> Yeah. >> Yes. Those are those just those events.
Oh, and to include black history. All right. Well, Commissioner Urban already said the pool party can go. Well, she's moving that somewhere. >> Well, I kind of moved it over to Bingo. Not I mean, it didn't go away. It just kept moving. >> Bingo.
So, the Christmas tree lighting, we didn't spend all of that money. We We barely did for the Christmas tree lighting cuz it's somewhere else, isn't it? We combined the Christmas with turkey giveaway. >> We did because it was so late in the year. >> Okay. So, if we get rid of the the the
5K Well, Bass is not here about the baby shower. I was going to say it's probably unfair because we don't have the entire commission here and some of these events are driven by comm elected officials. >> Um so it would have to be discussed when everyone is here but >> and this is coming up on the commission
meeting on Yes. >> So in the interim can you have individual meetings or phone calls? >> Yes. >> Phone calls with everybody and you provide the recommendation with your staff and say this is what it is now and this is what we're recommending. >> Okay. You're here. Would you like to
give us yours or do we have to call? I have to call you as well. >> I was about to say so. >> Commissioner Irby, you're here. Would you like to give us yours? >> I'm working on it. I mean, I hate to have only one karaoke. Um,
we're I don't know. I'm I've been scouting around trying to find someone that could do it cheaper than what we have now. I got how long? I got a week to figure it out. No, not a week. No, we don't have a week because we have to get
It has to be in the agenda. >> Well, all my items which is 5K you can the mayor's lunchon um the gum buyback. Um I had the Christmas tree lighting, but we had combined that with because we didn't we didn't we didn't spend any
money for this Christmas tree now that I think about it because we didn't even have food. We gave away cookies or something. I mean, we did spend money, but I can't say we spent the entire tree lighting budget is only $1,000. >> We didn't spend nowhere near it. Um, >> the baby shop belongs to Bass Chest and
Domino's is um Santiago. Karaoke belongs to Commissioner Irvin. The book bag giveaway I did. Um, >> well, the book bag giveaway kind of like all of us. No. >> Yeah, but I had That's not what I was saying. >> Oh, okay. Sorry.
um the toy drive, you know, we got to keep >> with the book bag giveaway. Sometimes we get other organizations that wants to come in and partner with the city. If we can do that in collaboration with other entities so it's not all on the city or
not or that we're not having 20 different book bag giveaways and the same kids walk away with 20 book bags and you have terrible last year. >> Yeah. So maybe we can do it different. >> Overabundance of book bags last year plus what the city bought. So that's one we can cut because I'm sure we get we're gonna get sponsors.
>> Well, there you go. M that >> you want to say 1K for the book bag? I wouldn't completely cut it. >> I would say 1K for the book bag cuz I know that the booster club is working on um on book bag giveaway. I meant to
assisting the city with the book bag giveaway. But I also know >> they um corrections just reached out to me. I told you last week, but they want to do it during a week and some other stuff. So, I don't know.
I'm waiting for a call back date from them. So, I think we can do half of that. I'm going to go out on a limb and say we just put karaoke at 5,000 instead of 10. And then if you the
Arabian Knights if we do 200,000 that'll be 80. You got 80 right there. So that's so from the first column. Wait, let's start over. >> But we need to check with the manager to see if even at 200,000. If that's 80, >> we're going to have to work within our budget. >> Okay.
>> If that mean commissioner Irvin get up there and sing, then that's what we gonna have. >> No, but >> we're going to have to work with >> We're actually right on time now. if we get those sponsorship letters out Ashley and get it to we got to go to >> right >> I think we we right on time but we got to get it out like ASAP.
>> So there you go. So if you right now if you take away the 80,000 you that's um then you have the 1,000 for the bull bag giveaway we'll delete um the 5k the baby shower I'm not touching um bingo is still here chest and dominoes is still
the gumb program will eliminate karaoke is reduced to 5,000 the mayor's business lunch we're eliminating down to the toy drive um yeah we do did y'all spend the whole and some. We spend about 13 14,000 every
year on the uh toy drive. >> All right. Then the Christmas tree lighting, I say decrease that to um five and then work on a sponsor like we did last year. Easter
did we did we spin up? Okay. What is this? Fourth of July. You said we we can't touch June 10th. We're not touching Labor Day. Labor Day. What? >> What did we do for Labor Day? >> I don't think >> I think that was Santiago. >> That was Commissioner Santiago and this is his event this year as well. >> Okay. Well, let's do that.
>> So, the pool party >> the pool party I scratched. >> Well, I transferred to bingo. It ain't much. But >> if you don't get rid them $800,000, get out of the zone.
>> We need those 850 for bingo. We be struggling. >> Um, what is this? The MLK walk. That's um Vice Melly's. The the turkey giveaway is 3600. We had sponsors this year. We didn't spend that.
>> Do take it to 26. >> I don't know, madam manager. >> So, we did have sponsors and it's doable to re reduce if we're going to if it's guaranteed that we're going to get sponsorship. if sponsors get because
what happens is is we had sponsors that brought the turkeys or ham or whatever and we we brought in the um canned goods, the fixings, >> but it wasn't $3,600 worth of fixings. And this year we can't do the fixings then we won't do fixings cuz remember
last year we only did >> No, last year we actually got some turkeys too because we didn't know how much we was going to get from the sponsor but we had more. Yes, >> we have way more to >> So here's my question again. Can we keep it and then if we don't use it because
of sponsors, we can transfer it out? >> We need the money other places. So, I said to bring it down to $1,500 >> and that that's going to push that's going to push myself and the elected officials >> to see um >> see if we can get um sponsorship.
>> I beg a lot. Already beg. They know I've been coming. Um yeah, 1500 >> 1500. And then you got Veterans Day. That's That's Commissioner B. I touch that. Black History. That's yours. Um >> schools.
>> Yours? >> No. >> Oh, it's a parks. Why is it here? >> Oh, >> because it's their budget. It's just duh. All right. Congala. >> No. Brex. Okay. Bre >> breast cancer. I don't think we did
nothing last year. breast cancer. >> Breast cancer. >> We didn't What we did was um staff. We did We didn't do nothing city. >> No, we had a workshop or something through HR. >> Yeah, with staff. We did it through HR. >> Well, why I feel like I advertise it to
the community cuz I >> We probably opened it up because we had it in We had it in the um auditorium. We did open it up. But >> yeah, then take it out take it out of the commercial. I mean, take it take it out cuz HR can do that.
Earth Day. >> That's Commissioner Bass. >> That's the only thing I'mma comment on the Earth Day because I don't us buying plants to give them away. I think there's a lot of conservation um organizations where we can ask them to donate
and maybe we can work with Dr. Bass on that. But that's that's the only cuz even this year we were begging people to take the stuff. Um um Haitian Heritage is um vice may
Halloween that's the parks and yours national day of prayer vice may women's history month. Oh that was that was mine but we also and this year we did one and then we y'all did one. So, let's scratch out women's history cuz you did the one with the partnership with the church. >> Mhm.
>> We had like three women's history events. Yeah, scratch it. >> Okay, Adam, at this point, madam man, we just saved you like $100,000. >> You want to go back to it or you got it? >> No, because I don't want y'all to change our minds. So, we going to keep it. I
have the numbers. You have >> I have Huh? 94,000 >> 94,000 >> That's how much it was. >> 94,100 >> 94. So how was $6,000 short of 100?
>> Well, maybe when the others come back, they'll >> make them cut, too. >> I I can't cut nothing else. I have but two items. >> All right. So outside of that, um, mad manager, we good cuz it is 3:00 and I haven't had to watch.
>> You shut up. I did not die. Uh, so that's why you got to go back to work. Exactly. So, uh, this is coming to us to pass on Wednesday, but you need two hearings. Two readings.
Two readings and one reading. Just one for the Oh, >> just one to send it to the state. >> All right. To the state. So, I guess once you figure out what this part looks like, you can have individual meetings with everybody that's that's remaining and then we can go from there. But y'all got a lot of money now. So, you're
welcome. And I'mma beg to say that madam manager, if you you might be able to cut another 25 from Arabian Nights. And that's going to be squeezing. I know pushing at 175. I said Mike. I see her looking at me.
Go. I saw you looking. I said Mike. >> Then we setting us up and you not gonna be here. >> I'm coming. >> I'mma talk about >> most definitely. If my people thought I was begging before, I'm coming big time
next year. >> If I have my meeting is ajourned. Motion to >> move it. >> Second. >> Thank you. Second. I'll second it. Meeting is ajourned.