[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] I'd like to call this meeting to order. Mrs. Moran, would you lead us in a flag salute? I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America >> and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> The sunshine law statement. All requirements of the open public meetings act have been met for this meeting of
the board of education of the bureau of order. Notice of this meeting was filed with the record and town news and all persons requesting such notice. Mrs. Norian, would you read the mission statement? >> The Oridel Public School District is dedicated to the ongoing pursuit of educational excellence through comprehensive, innovative curriculum and
instruction. The district is committed to providing opportunities for social, emotional, and academic discovery to foster curiosity, courage, and character. Our goal is to prepare our students to become lifelong learners who are self-directed, resilient,
productive, responsible citizens. >> Thank you. Roll call >> on the roll. Mr. Delg Greco >> here. >> Mr. Dariion >> here. >> Mrs. Downey >> here. >> Mrs. Moran >> here. >> Mr. Nutland >> here. >> Mrs. Walker >> here. >> Mr. Walsh will not be here. Mrs. Norian
>> here. >> Mrs. Nichols >> here. At this time, we will open to the public for agenda items only. Not seeing any, we'll move forward. We'll go right to the superintendent report. As this was a very quick turnaround from our last board meeting, I don't have a
ton to report, especially since I along with Mrs. Norian was at the New Jersey school board's workshop last week. Um, I did want to share a little bit about the workshops I attended. I did attend workshops on effective communication during a school crisis board government n um curriculum that connects and one of
the those curriculum workshops actually had to do with a new platform using AI to write curriculum. I'll be honest, I wasn't sold on it at all. Um, AI in schools, both from a landmine and a legal perspective and also from a positive how could it help us
perspective, coaching leaders and teachers and organizational leadership. I also had the opportunity to speak with several of our vendors. It is one of my favorite parts of the workshop because you have a captive audience. They have nowhere to go and they want other people
to buy their products. So if you ask them questions in front of those other people, you get very good answers. So um I had a wonderful conversation with Eastern Data who supplies our um safety and security, our cameras, our alert systems about some next steps that we
can take as a district. And I also had a conversation with some language arts vendors at the same time. Tomorrow we will have a Dibbles parent academy and on Friday is our annual Halloween parade. I did just check the weather which I am at the point where I'm
checking every half hour and it looks like we will be on. So we welcome all of you to be there and that concludes my report. >> Thank you Mr. Aya Pell. >> Yes. Um right now I'm in the midst of the audit. It's uh Lurch Vincy Bliss.
The auditors are here. Um they started last week. They'll continue through this week probably next week. So, they're working with them as they go through all our records. Um, and it's also been uh having to complete the final reports for
IDA, our what they used the title grants. So, I've been tied up with those things all last couple of weeks. Uh, that concludes my report. >> Thank you. Moving on to minutes. We have approval of September 17th. Do I have a
motion? So >> second >> second by Mrs. Walker. Any questions? Call the question. >> On the role. Mr. Delg Greco. >> Abstain. >> Mr. Dariion.
>> Yes. >> Mrs. Downey. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Moran. >> Yes. >> Mr. Nutland? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Walker? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Norian? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Nichols? >> Yes. Moving to committee reports. Mrs. Norian, would you take um
administrative? >> Under administrative items, we have uh I'd like to present item A1. >> I'll second that. >> Second by Mr. Dariion. Any questions? Some of you were not here last meeting. Under new business, Mrs. Downey um
requested that we establish a um committee focused on special education. I had to check with our attorney and it has to be board approved. It is up to the entire board if we want to do this and it can any of our committees can be dissolved at any time. We're talking in a policy this evening actually just
changing our little bylaw um but we can we can make a new committee or dissolve one at any time but it has to be um approved by the board any new standing committee. So that's what this is. So any questions? >> I have a question. >> Mr. Darien. >> Yeah. So I don't recall the specifics
from the last board meeting. We we talked about a standing meeting versus uh excuse me, a standing um committee or a temp committee and and we landed on standing committee. Is that it? >> Well, when um I I wasn't sure if we were
able to I spoke to our attorney about it and we just went this way because we can dissolve it at any time. So, we don't have So, we had first talked about keeping it through June 30th. Um but if we find in February it's not working, we can make a motion and it has to be by uh the board would have to
dissolve it. >> Okay. And then uh one other question, the uh the chairperson that's uh going to be assigned by you. Is that it? By the president. Okay. And committee members are you're going to just send out a a
questionnaire if you're interested or >> I mean if you're interested, let me know. >> Okay. >> Absolutely. Any other questions, Mrs. Walker? >> So, maybe you could refresh my memory a little bit. Um, did we not have
something similar to this a number of years ago? Um, >> I don't remember. I I don't know if we had an official committee for special ed. We may have done >> maybe it was a group that agreed. So, how how would this work? Uh,
>> so this is going to be Well, Mrs. Downey, you want to talk about it or so? So, this is going to be like one of our standing committees like right on our agenda and um I had talked about you know with it with our attorney and also you know the superintendent and Mrs.
county and I guess we're going to do you want to say anything here or cuz since you >> No, I think we're just going to figure out what our purpose is and you know what we actually have purview over >> right >> also like you want do you want to talk
about how like we were looking at we're going to start with overall staff we're going to look into curriculum >> right so my recommendation to the committee would be that it starts by putting together a state of special education uh uh in the district, you know, what is our staffing, what are the
services we're given. Um, from there the committee can decide how much research they want to do um, regarding others. But I think right now it's really important that we document what is here and we start from that. And it makes me think a little bit about, you know, when
you do strategic planning, the first thing you do is you do a status of the district. And so we start by doing just a status of the district and the committee will decide goals from there. So when you say it'll it'll be on our
agenda, it will be um C2 or whatever. >> We'll just put it right we'll just >> we'll just slot it in alphabetically like we have an S and it'll just be become one of our normal standing committees. >> And then who who would be the chair of
that committee? Would that be Mrs. Downey? >> I would assume so. Mhm. >> And then she would go from there to choose her members of her committee. >> I mean, if anyone's interested in just email me and then, you know, we'll go from there. >> Okay.
>> But I know I know you wanted to look at curriculum issues, testing issues, space issues. There's a lot of things and also the special ed committee can refer out to other committees and you know we can refer out to you know curriculum curriculum can refer to us BNG we can refer to refer B&G can refer issues into
special ed you know probably special ed will be maybe referring out to other committees also but take a look >> so the committee will actually evolve as it goes along >> and if we find that you know if we come to a place where we find that we're good
we can always dissolve it any committee at any Okay, >> good. Thank you. >> Any other questions? >> Call the question >> on the role. Mr. Delg Greco, >> yes. >> Mr. Dariion,
>> yes. >> Mrs. Downey, >> yes. >> Mrs. Moran, >> yes. >> Mr. Nutwin, >> yes. >> Mrs. Walker, >> yes. >> Mrs. Norian, >> yes. >> Mrs. Nichols, >> yes. buildings and grounds.
>> Mr. Belgreco. >> Yes. Um, first before I go over that, I sent an email out to some committee members. Thank you, Miss Bosius, for doing that. Uh, just proposing a meeting. It's been a bit. There's been some things I just wanted to bring up, you know, about the building, just statuses on the projects, long range
project, long range facility plans, etc. Um, so hopefully we can have one in the next couple weeks. >> Do we set it for Monday? >> Oh, is it set for Monday? Perfect. Okay, perfect. Thank you. Awesome. Um, and with that, I'd like to introduce B1 and B2. Um, use of facilities and
comprehensive maintenance plan. >> Second by Mrs. Norian. Any questions, Mrs. Walker? >> Um, could you explain what B2 submission of the comprehensive maintenance plan is? >> Mr. Aelli. >> Sure. Sure. It's a pro-former document
that we just have to show we are doing maintenance in the building. The only requirement that the state technically wants to see is that we're doing at least $32,147 worth of maintenance. And we do significantly more than that.
>> When did they come up with that number? >> They've used they take your square footage and they use $145 and it's and they multiply it and it's been $145 for 20 years. It's never changed. So,
it's outdated, but it's still a requirement. And you just say, you just list these are very broad, generalized. Uh, these are all the things we could do in the building. And they want to know how much you spent last year, what's in your budget this year, what do you plan
next year, and as long as it's above that >> 32,000, >> that's it. But you have to have a resolution, have to submit it. Um and then it this is the only time we see it and then it goes away.
>> Seems like a waste, doesn't it? I mean, if you're going to list if you're going to have a submission of a comprehensive, it should be have the meat and potatoes to back it up. So that >> they I think they realize based on the amount that they've allocated,
they've never changed it. And then if they change that and raise the requirements, I think then districts may say, "Well, if you're going to tell us that we have to spend X more, well, where's the aid? We don't have that." So, I think that's this is a way that they're like, "Well, we
>> check in, make sure everybody's working on their buildings, and see you next year." >> Thank you. >> And just to explain further, and thank you, Mr. Pell, for sending me that document. So, I reviewed it and it's literally just an Excel spreadsheet with
like three columns like this year, last year, and literally everything you said just listed like in a big blurb of what the maintenance is and just an an um an item and the bottom for how much like is budgeted. >> It's very rudimentary document. It's >> and that's every year,
>> the same document >> every year. Just change the dates. >> That's terrible. >> That's >> Welcome to New Jersey. I don't make the rules. I just comply with them. >> T-shirt. >> Any other any other questions?
>> I have a comment, >> Mr. Dariion. >> Yeah. So, I was reading through the resolution and I don't know, it just stuck to something stuck out to me. Um the the the third whereas all past and PLA and planned activities
are responsible to keep the school facility open and safe. Okay, that's logical. um for use in their original condition. And I thought to myself, "Holy cow, that's a high bar." You know, this building, you know, built in 1928,
right? So, it's it's very easy for things to become old and outdated and obsolete and you just move on to more important things, right? But, um and I I just can think of many districts where, you know, the buildings are old and
become obsolete in a lot of ways and uh we haven't done that. So, Uh, I'd be it'd be hardressed for us to find something in the building that isn't I I think it's much better than original condition, but um, you know, so you know, we throw around these resolutions
without, you know, sometimes looking into them and really understanding what we're committing to. But when we talk about maintenance, I mean, we are saying that we're going to keep this building open and safe, but in its original condition, which is a big thing when you have such a large
old building and that's all. >> Yeah. Just so you know, this is boilerplate. This is what they want the resolution to be. This is from the state. >> Yeah. And everyone everyone is doing >> everyone has the same exact resolution, >> right? And some people just do it without really,
you know, committing to it. So, you know, I mean, if someone was not maintaining their building, all you'd have to do is pull this up, this resolution, and throw it back in their face and make their life miserable. >> Well, they made the bar so low. >> Yeah. That they >> maintain it. >> Well, I
>> by their definition of what the minimum amount is is >> Yeah. But I'm not I'm not referring to what we sent to the state. I'm referring to what we're saying publicly in in the resolution. Right. Any other questions? Call the question
on the roll. Mr. Delgrea, >> yes. >> Mr. Dariion, >> yes. >> Mrs. Downey, >> yes. >> Mrs. Moran, >> yes. >> Mr. Nutland, >> yes. >> Mrs. Walker, >> yes. >> Mrs. Norian, >> yes. >> Mrs. Nichols,
>> yes. Curriculum, Mrs. Norian. Uh, yes. We had um a meeting last Friday. Um and you should have uh the notes from uh that meeting in in your packet that you got today. Uh sorry for the lateness,
but um since it was Friday, it was a little difficult to get it into the packets that got home. Uh just to let you know, we did talked about talk about uh report cards since they are will be changing. We talked about how we came up
with benchmarks. Um and um that I think we rolled them out in November, right? November. Um we also talked about technology because we had raised concerns about how much technology is
being used in the building and um so we were trying to gather information I think using GoG Guardian and then we questioned how GoG Guardian actually collected that information and if it would be accurate. Um, so we're still
kind of looking at that whole process. Um, and then um, we talked a little bit about um, our amplify um, >> Desmos >> and Desmos Math. Um, and that's it. If you have any questions about anything
that we did, please read through your notes and then we can discuss or um, bring anything else up that might be of concern to you. And with that, oh, I guess I would like approval on a field trip to the Tennifly
Nature Center C1. >> I'll second that. >> Second by Mr. Darien. Any questions? I think it was one of the best um curriculum meetings we've had. >> It really was. >> It was really good. And I think um if the board remembers not this past
retreat, our retreat the summer before when we were talking about report cards, we found that they were not marking kids for where they were supposed to be at the time at the end of the year. So I think it's that whole year process change over. It's amazing the work that was done and um making consistency
through the grades on all the benchmarks. I a lot of work was done by our admin team and it is amazing now. Um but that was really something that started at our retreat. Um another thing that uh we had talked about that Mrs. Downey brought up was
um we have the tiers of support tiers one, two and three and everybody goes in one and then if you're struggling go in two and then the real strugglers go in three and then um we can only take like 5% like are usually maybe sometimes a little bit more but then we felt like the bottom learners in that next tier
two maybe could use some extra support especially in like the first second grade who are reading. So, um, Miss Bozios is going to look into maybe running either a before or after school program just for those kids because, um, we want them to not be not fall behind,
be left behind. Anything else that you can think of? It was a really good meeting, I have to say. It was good. Something else come out of our retreat in that meeting? I don't know. I can't remember. But it was very good. Did you
have a question, Mr. Outland. >> Just to piggyback the comment on, you know, getting kids, you know, up to to grade level or up to, you know, uh, the standards, you know, it just goes to show you, you know, how much the school does about how important the parents are, uh, involved with their kids
education and getting involved with your kids' math and getting involved with their homework and, you know, working on flashcards. It is remarkable how much ground could be make up can be made up as well when the parents are also working hard on that. So >> I was actually talking to someone about
that today like when you're in a school if you're you know wherever your child is top bottom middle we had talked about that too. You're never going to get out of the school exactly what your child needs. It's just not possible in a public school. It's not possible in any school. >> So you really have to advocate for your child. You have to work at home with them also.
>> Right. The communication to the parents is so key. >> Yeah. 100%. And I think this report card, one of the things that came out was that, you know, you could see your child have a one in the first market period, but now second mark period going to two. And there was a feeling that maybe parents would be upset. But I'm
like, that's phenomenal because we're not going to find out at year end. Like, okay, like what happened from one to two? Let's find out now in the middle of the year before it gets too far into the year. So, >> right. >> Right. and our parents and our parents will will be finding out about that um
because there'll be some education on that um going forward so that it doesn't come as a surprise when they get the report card. It it they will get some introduction to it. >> Yeah, it's good. Any other questions? Call the question
>> on the role. Mr. Delgreo, >> yes. >> Mr. Dariion, >> yes. >> Mrs. Downey, >> yes. >> Mrs. Moran, >> yes. Mr. Nutland, >> yes. >> Mrs. Walker, >> yes. >> Mrs. Norian, >> yes. >> Mrs. Nichols,
>> yes. Finance, Mr. Dariion. >> Yeah. I'd like to introduce um you know, we have five items which are housekeeping items. Uh D1 through D5. And then we have D6, which is to uh dispose of obsolete
Chromebooks. And then D7 which is approval of um monies for Brennan did the uh what >> airdale >> airdale. >> This is the air dales. This is up the 90% completion. There's still 100,000
>> uh 100,582 open >> on that. So they think have to do the punch list. There's still monies. >> Okay. So open. >> Uh yeah, it's basically just uh the last of the U HVAC units in the classrooms for D7. Uh with that, I'd like to
introduce D1 through D7. >> I'll second it. Second by Mrs. Norian. Any questions? Mrs. Walker. >> So is that the the sheet the extra chart we got that had it's the total was $2,97.
>> Oh. for the Chromebooks. >> The Chrome That's for the Chromebooks, >> right? >> And that lists the different things of what's wrong with >> Correct. >> So, are we going to sell them? >> We sell them the Triad Sourcing. >> Okay. >> We have a vendor. They gave us the
quote, the pricing, and we sell them. We did this last year, too. We sold it, too. >> That's good. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. Do we have to advertise that to the public if it's a certain amount or no? >> If it was a certain amount,
>> what's the amount? I >> think if you have to be able to bid threshold >> that's a bid threshold, then we have to >> significantly >> below. Okay. >> Any other questions, Mr. >> So, just to verify and thank you for sending that, you know, explanation as well via email.
>> Um, but we get a, I guess, an asset list, right, of all the serial numbers that they purchase from us and then a certificate saying that they're going to do whatever responsibly. So if these these things end up in a landfill, they run the serial number, it comes back to Oral Public School, we are clear.
>> Well, they're not disposing of them. They're selling them again. >> Yeah. But you know, if they sell them somewhere off the black market, it's just we're released. >> Yeah, we have it. Okay. >> Ramy took care of that. >> Thank you. >> They gave the thumbs up, >> so he's listening, so he took care of
that. >> Any other questions? >> Call the question >> on the roll. Mr. Delg Greco. Yes, >> Mr. Darian. >> Yes, >> Mrs. Downey. >> Yes, >> Mrs. Moran. >> Yes, >> Mr. Nutland.
>> Yes, >> Mrs. Walker. >> Yes, >> Mrs. Norian. >> Yes, >> Mrs. Nichols. >> Yes. Delegate report? Not yet. Right. >> Not yet. It's November. >> Do you know when is it before our next meeting? Are we going to have resolutions to vote on? >> I think it'll be before our next meeting because I think it's the latter part of
the month. >> Are there resolutions that you're going to be voting on? >> I haven't gotten anything. So, >> so if there are, >> we'll bring them. >> Well, if you're going to be meeting before our next whatever, Mr. Pell, you need to get those to us and people need to see how we want to vote as a board,
right? Because you're voting for us. So, >> I haven't gone in a long time. So, >> um Okay. Personnel, Mrs. Walker. >> Yes. Thank you. I'd like to present F1. Um, but I also um we only had our
meeting um a week and a half ago, two weeks ago, but I'm not sure and I I went over the different areas that we had discussed, but I I don't think I discussed the status of the new contract, which was part of our discussion, and that was how we reviewed
the conference days um and how staff members used them depending on what their position was in the school. and also discussed how additional prep period that administration can utilize for those that maybe don't have as much
time spent with parents to be able to use them to do other things. So that's all been in the discussion phase and with that I'd like to present everyone. >> I'll second >> second by Mr. Nutland. Any questions?
Call a question. on the role. Mr. Delgreco, >> yes. >> Mr. Darian, >> yes. >> Mrs. Downey, >> yes. >> Mrs. Moran, >> yes. >> Mr. Nutland, >> yes. >> Mrs. Walker, >> yes. >> Mrs. Norian,
>> yes. >> Mrs. Nichols, >> yes. Policy, Mr. Nutland. >> Yes. Hi. We uh we had an evening. We had a meeting uh this evening and there was a few things that we uh we discussed. A lot of um a lot of things were passed in July. Um however we uh discussed the
visitors policy um and using the vercata system um you know for the sharp parents so um you know that that system uh you know was doing the proper screenings um so that was uh that was good. The use of uh facilities policy has not really been
updated in terms of the fees that we charge people using our facilities since 2018. So, we've definitely agreed to relook at table that sets the the costs and the the rental fees. So, um at our next meeting, we'll go through and
probably, you know, put down numbers on what we're looking at in terms of uh the fees so we can get people who are going to use our facilities, give them a heads up that there will be a fee increase. Um discussed lice. Um not that I have a
problem with it, but um we discussed um you know understanding the um what the lawyers want to talk about in terms of uh what's when do we reach out and when don't we also reach out to the board of u to the board of health on that. Um you
know apparently lice don't jump and they don't fly all over the place. So it's apparently more challenging to get lice than you realize. Not saying it doesn't creep me out. anyone in the office, I don't want them. However, we want to also be prudent in how we address it.
Um, we discussed um parental subs, um, making sure that we're, you know, safeguarding kids in terms of the privacy and, you know, the appropriateness of having parents um, in their kids' classrooms. Um,
and we discussed AI and um, the use of AI in school. And you know there's a lot of components to AI in the school and um you know we're in it already. It's not like it's when it comes it's here. So
we're working on how to all maintain the academic integrity um for our students, the ethical uses of AI um for the students um responsible use with students and as well as with the staff
um and data privacy, making sure that we're safeguarding the inputs that go into our computers um to help us, you know, get answers or or lead us in and directions. So, there's a lot to, you
know, peel this onion with. And, uh, we're do we're doing a very thoughtful job. Um, you know, Miss Bose, we're working on this very thoughtful job of trying to make sure we put something together that's going to be going to be appropriate. Um, and
I have nothing else to report. >> Thank you. Public relations, Mrs. Downey. So, we also met tonight. Um, we talked about the website, you know, using it on the phone versus the app. Um, we also talked about the communication
protocols. Um, when, you know, what level each incident is and when, who, and how they get notified. And that's about it. >> Thank you. At this time, we'll open to
the public. Suzanne Crow 77 Beachwood. Um, I want to thank you for considering the special education uh subcommittee. I think that's fantastic. Um, what I do ask is that I know it's a a new committee and you're going to be figuring out what you do that you collaborate and when you
come up with the state of special education that you include the CPAC, you include parents. Um, and I understand that parents will have opinions, but I also think it's important that you hear them maybe from every student who's receiving special education in terms of
maybe a survey that goes out to those parents and just get some input so that when you're figuring out the baseline of where our special education stands today, you have that input and I think that'll be helpful in planning for the future. um and as well as the CPAC and the child study team. I hope you'll
collaborate with them as well so that there is um uniformity and it just this isn't happening in a silo where all the parties and all the stakeholders are sort of participating. I think that would be fantastic. Um and I also think the existence of it shouldn't be temporary. So hopefully I mean special
education is part of our community. It's part of, you know, the fabric of this school. And I think that it should always be something that's at the forefront so that when new families come in, they feel welcome, they feel supported, they feel accepted, and it doesn't fall under
the table and disappear out of the, you know, out of the light when Miss Downey is maybe not sitting on this board anymore or when parents like me are not standing here in front of you talking about it. I want to make sure it's always part of the conversation. Um, another thing I want to just mention about policy that Mr. Lton spoke about was parental subs. That is definitely
something that out in the community is a is a hot topic. Um that there is concern that parents are in classrooms that you know it it feels very um what's the right word? Um I don't know.
It feels a little fuzzy that there are so many parents that are staff and in the building and I know that there are other districts that have policies and I'm not saying to change the policy. I'm saying maybe it's something to look into. Wood Cliff Lake, for example, does not allow parents to be teachers, substitutes, or aids in their school
system. Um, and so, you know, something to possibly consider. I think from a parent perspective, you know, when you have a child who is challenging and is are in these walls, you're hoping that what's happening here is is appropriate and supportive. And
our community, you know, 8 n 10,000 people. How many people do we have? I'm not sure. we're we're big, but we're small and everybody talks. And so I think that's another challenge um that if you would, you know, consider and just look into that and see what happens in other districts that don't allow
parents. And again, that's another thing that maybe, you know, pull the audience, see how the families of the students feel about that. I don't think that would be a bad idea. Um so I'm just putting it out there since you brought it up in your policy conversation. That's all. Thank you. >> Thank you. Uh moving to older new
business. anyone >> Sudarian >> uh I don't know if this is good for board discussion Peter I heard um a board member I think it westwood got um removed because he didn't do his
training and uh that got me thinking this is my first year within my current term and I think I have to take a a governance class right and and does that go in perpetuity or after you get after like 10 or 15 years they give up. >> No, always.
>> Do you have the list of people? >> I have everything. >> Please make sure everyone is trained. >> So, I got to take a governance class between now and the end of the year, right? >> Yeah, >> it's a virtual class. >> Yeah, I know. I just in person. >> I just haven't been getting any, you
know, any invites. So, um, >> send you an invite. >> Yeah, I'd appreciate that. Thanks. >> You got it. In other words, you don't want to be removed from the board. >> That would not be a good look. >> Okay. Think think before you answer that. >> Yes.
>> Any other old or new business? >> Mr. Delg Greco, >> I just want to thank the rest of the board for considering Miss Downy's um special education committee. I think that a very large portion of our budget goes toward special education. if you
look at a lot of the districts that are in financial crisis, right? It's because of maybe miscalculating, you know, special education costs. So, I think as we go forward down the line and we start looking at budgets, um, looking at these other districts, I think it's really good that we have that kind of focus for
a little bit. And it's just interesting in the news, you know, we have other districts that are literally voting to say, well, either raise the taxes or we're laying off teachers. So, I just thank this board as well for I think our financial due diligence, right, to ensure that we're adding staff. We're in
a pretty stable state as of now. Um, and budget season is coming and that it'll be interesting. >> I'm just going to make one comment on what you said when you said it's, you know, one of our larger budget lines. I'm just going to correct you and say it is our largest.
>> Thank you. Yes, >> it is our largest budget line. >> 29% special ed, 28% general ed or something. Yes. So I think people need to hear that it is our number one line. >> Yes. >> Most money goes towards it. >> I'd like to chime in too. Um
>> so from a budgeting standpoint, finance pers perspective, uh Ordell is basically self-funded. You know we don't get a lot of money from the state, hardly any money from the federal government. So uh you know on one hand that's not great. On the other hand, uh we have a very
stable uh revenue source because we've been very prudent in the way we grow and so you know we know what our tax base is and and and we've been planning very uh very well uh you know moving forward. So we don't see a lot of changes because
of what happen may happen in Trenton or what may happen in DC uh from a finance perspective. Um, now from a special ed perspective and then most recently from the benefits perspective, health care, uh, you know, those are two wild cards.
Uh, you know, special ed has always been this way. It's nothing new. I mean, I've been around 15 years now and every year, you know, we always talk about, you know, the potential impact of u unplanned uh, you know, expenditures in in um,
special ed. But this year we have now um you know the big impact on healthcare benefits and uh you know my wife just had a seminar today uh you know talking about small businesses and um the the smallest increase that they discussed
you know they did a poll of businesses throughout New Jersey. The smallest increase was 17% and the largest was 90%. annual increase and and so you know we are on the state plan um our policy ends
you know fiscal year January so you know we're in a midyear um but you know come come January um you know who knows what we're going to see from the state and uh and then probably next year probably going to be even worse. So, you know,
those are the two special ed and and healthc care are the two two big dogs when it comes to, you know, wiping out anyone's budget. So, I just wanted to make that comment. >> Mr. Aelli, when do we get the numbers
from the state for January premiums? >> We'll have them by I would say by December at some point. We'll have them. We have an idea the o the overall increases but not each plans increase yet like they said you know say
prescriptions going up 36%. But we also and with the plans they're just giving you the one general number. So each plan be slightly different. So they haven't released the tables yet. I'm assuming they will be shortly. Um because you have the open enrollment is
now and new plans go into effect for people that are switching January 1st. So in December they'll have the new rates and we'll start there. >> We need to do a finance meeting at some point also, right?
>> Yeah. I was going to ask tonight, but then Peter kept talking about, you know, the arduous auditing process and that he's been spending two weeks and he's got another week. So, I thought I would just wait until he's done with that. But Peter, we are waiting, chomping at the
bit for the next budget subcommittee meeting. So, you just tell us when you're ready. >> I will. And then we'll have an idea of what surplus we have. Yeah. Love the exact numbers. >> Yeah. Well, we want to talk about everything. I mean, you know, >> but I'm just saying for the budget. Yes.
>> In the past the budgets now we're getting it done much earlier than you know we were into January February. >> Yeah. >> So we're going to be done >> now where we were later. >> Yeah. Just for the public. Uh you know I'm trained in zerobased budgeting. Right. So we start from we start
>> we start from why should you work here and then we go from there. >> Why do we need a principal? >> Any other old or new business? Mr. Delg Greco. >> Sorry. One other piece of business. From what I understand, either the Bur of Oidell is ready for a decision by a
judge or it's coming soon on the impending fair share housing obligations, right? And I know Mr. Darien is covering his ears because he does sit on another board, but I just I'm not expecting an answer. I'm just making a public statement that it is
going to be I hope that we're tracking that decision very carefully because that has potential large implications for this building and for us as a board. >> Mrs. Walker, >> uh, two things in in relationship to what James just Mr. Delg Greco just
said. It's a big impact on all municipalities within New Jersey, not only just Oridel. That's a big big decision maker. And the other thing is the special ed committee. I think having sat on this board for 15 years, I don't
think any one person would not be open to what's best for the children. So if this committee can look at special ed kids in a different light with the parents and we would be foolish and ignorant if we didn't move forward with
that. I think it's I applaud Mrs. Downey for pushing that. >> Any other older new business? >> We do need to go into close session. So, if someone would like to make the motion, >> I'd like to make a motion we go into close session. Second.
>> Second by Mrs. Walker. Roll call. >> Wendy's. >> Yes. >> On the roll. Mr. Delgreo. >> Yes. >> Mr. Dariion. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Downey? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Moran. >> Yes.
>> Mr. Nutman. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Walker. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Norian. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Nichols. >> Yes. Mrs. Crow. Thank you for coming. We appreciate it. We will not be coming out and taking any action.