Time now is 700 p.m. I will call this commission meeting to order. At this time, I please ask everyone to silence your cell phones or any other electronic devices. Your greeters at the door tonight is
Deputy Public Works Director Kevin Gray and Human Resources Manager Samantha Pototts. Starting from my far right, near far left, we have recording secretary Tail Locker. City Clerk Susan Doris,
Deputy Mayor, Zone One Commissioner Lorie Taland. >> Good evening everyone. Welcome. >> Zone 2 Commissioner Travis Sergeant. >> Good evening. Welcome. >> And to my left and to your right, we have zone 3 Commissioner Kristen Deon. >> Good evening everyone. >> Zone 4 Commissioner Howard Bryley.
>> Good evening everyone. Welcome. >> City Manager Joy Shanahan. Assistant City Manager Claire Whitley, and we have Sean Finley in the front row, Deputy City Attorney Ann Margaret Emory.
And to my far left and to your far right, we have Police Chief Jesse Godfrey. And we do not have Fire Chief Howard Bailey here. We have uh the Deputy Chief
uh Cord A. and I am Mayor Jason Leslie. At this time, I'd like to call up Chaplain Sam Ricardo of Advent Health to do the invocation followed by the pledge of allegiance. >> Yeah.
Almighty God, as we enter the Thanksgiving season, we thank you for our city of Orman Beach. We thank you for the people who reside in our city and form the various
communities in our town. Tonight, we also thank you for our city leaders and all who are here tonight to hear the business matters of our city. Bless us with your wisdom and guidance
so our city shines as a beacon to all. We pray in your holy name. Amen. >> Amen. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. May be seated. Thank you, chaplain, for coming out. Okay, moving on to presentations and proclamation section of the agenda. Today we have two proclamations and one
presentation. Um I at this time I'd like to ask you to please direct your attention to the screens up above. [Music] We started the police foundation for the simple reason that we decided to raise
money from the private sector to provide for services, education, training. >> My name is Gail Lamarand. I've been in the Daytona Orman uh area since 1978.
law enforcement, what they do for all of us. Really, really proud to be associated with the Orman Police Department. The beginnings of all this started uh many years ago when the former mayors of Orman Beach wanted to pull their resources together and do
something for the greater good. >> The K9 that works on my Delta shift was purchased through the foundation. I went to the Southern Police Institute Command Officers Development Course, which is a 10-week program, which was fully funded by the uh foundation. These foundations
help us train our officers, equip them with technology and equipment, that just makes me feel better as a police chief and as their leader. So, on behalf of the men and women that work here at the Or Beach Police Department, uh we want to thank a heartfelt thanks to the to
the citizens of our community that support us. We obviously couldn't do it alone. We need your cooperation. We need your participation. And to the Orman Beach Police Foundation, you guys are rock stars. Thank you so much for helping us out and
supporting us. You are truly appreciated. [Applause] The commission and I would not be the people standing before you today if it weren't for the incredible individuals who came before us. We'd like to take a
moment to express our gratitude to the Orange Beach Police Foundation for their generosity and support for our community. At this time, I'd like to invite Dwight Selby, Ed Kelly, and Carl Perses to come forward to accept this proclamation on behalf of the Orman
Beach Police Foundation. >> Good to see you guys. Likewise. >> Yes. Um before I go through the proclamation, um I'm going to give each of the microphone here to say a few things. >> We'll start with you, Dwight. >> Very good. Thank you, Jason. Um well, a couple of things. First of all, Fred
Costello is the fourth director of the uh police foundation right now. Fred moved to North Carolina a couple of years ago. He sends his regards. He's sorry he can't be here. He certainly wanted to be here. Um secondly, we are going to be expanding the board. We're
going to be adding uh many more directors. So, we're looking for people who are interested in public safety and who would want to be a part of that to let us know that you want to be a part of that and and there'll be a process to to uh do that. Uh the third thing is
that um yesterday we uh in a in a ceremony at the police department, we honored uh Gail Leand. I think Gail Limrand is known pretty well throughout the area as somebody who has been extremely uh giving. Well, he's been our
single biggest supporter of the police foundation and has made a couple of very large donations too. So, we we made a presentation to him and uh his fiance was there also, Jill Simpkins, and uh it was very wellreceived. Um, and today I
got a call from the chief because Gail had um Gail Leon had uh visited the chief and he said um he created the opportunity for us to raise $200,000 for the police foundation by putting up
a $100,000 matching gift. So, and then his fiance Jill um she immediately gave $25,000. So the first 50 is already in the bank. Okay. So we need to raise $75,000 and we'll have $200,000
additional funds in the police foundation. So we're really really excited about that. Um and and to give you you saw some of the things the foundation has purchased for the police department. One of the things that's on the u on the on the radar right now is
um mental health counseling that's available to all of the um sworn officers as well as the um the unsworn employees in the police department. and they can access that either by phone or
by um text or email um with people who are qualified to consult with them, counsel them through the challenges that they face both personally and professionally. And we're uh we're excited about evaluating that and uh
providing that for the for the officers of Orman Beach. With that, I'll hand it to Ed. >> Well, I think you said it all. Uh it is a very important uh volunteering work that we do. Uh we
are being able to supply things to the police department that takes the pressure off of the commission trying to fund everything because there's no way you can fund every need. And one of the biggest ones I think is some of the training that we've sent and officer
development so that we can keep those good officers that we have here that are rising up the ranks, they can can become future leaders of our community. So those are just some of the some of the big ones I think that we do. >> Yeah. Well, you you guys as always said
it very very well. All I can add to that is I think that we have in Orman Beach probably the best police chief in the entire state. I think he needs to get a round round of applause and show our appreciation. And I just think that all of us out
there, we have our favorite organizations and charities. Uh we all get asked all the all the time, you know, write a check for this one and that one. But I just can't think of a a really a better one particularly for the citizens of Orman Beach to write a check
to support your police officers. Uh they are the only organization that the men and women who serve put their lives on the line each and every day. What could be more important than than that they are risking their lives to protect you
and me. So, as we move on and the foundation becomes a little more popular and widely known, perhaps you'll be having an opportunity to write that check, too, and help support our Orman Beach police officers. I know they
appreciate it. I know the the city commission would, city manager would, and uh so it's a win-win all the way around. So, let's all get behind the Orman Beach Police Foundation. You'll be glad you did. Well, thank you for everything you do.
And uh if anybody wants to write a check, we're taking checks right now. Okay. U with that said, I'm going to each give you one each one of these a plaque here. And if you could hold it up as I go ahead and read the proclamation.
We have one extra here. Um >> for Fred. >> Fred. Okay. We'll send it out to whereas the Orman Beach Police Foundation was established in 2020 by then city commissioner Dwight Selby to support the Orman Beach Police
Department by providing funding for training, equipment, and technology not covered by city tax dollars and to provide financial assistance to the families of officers injured or killed in the line of duty. And whereas the city of Orin Beach recognizes the leadership and service of the
foundation's board members. Dwight Selby as president, Ed Kelly as vice president, Fred Castello secretary, and Carl Pur as treasurer. All of whom serve the city and elected leadership roles and whose dedication has furthered the foundation's mission and strengthened
the relationship between law enforcement and the community. And whereas Gail Lamart uh Lamarand, sorry, an entrepreneur, philanthropist, an active committee member within Valuchia County, is a strong advocate for public safety
and a valued voice for the foundation and the city. His generosity and partnership has directly supported the foundation's mission. And whereas the foundation has made significant contributions to officer safety, operational readiness, and community support through the purchase of
essential equipment, including a K9 narcotics detection dog, ballistic shields, drones, less lethal pepper ball launchers, cooling devices for patrol officers, initiatives such as the compassion fund to assist victims of crime, and supporting efforts to enhance
recruitment and public engagement. And whereas the foundation has demonstrated its commitment through investments in officer education, including a train the trainer course, in deescalation techniques, Southern Police Institute's 10-week command officers development
course for supervisors, and the funding of a ste street legal electric bentelli, I saw that yesterday, golf cart to enhance visibility, mobility, and engagement during parades, school events, and community functions such as National Night Out in Orm Beach's
annuals. Independence Day celebration. Now therefore, I, Jason Leslie, mayor of the city of Orin Beach, do hereby proclaim November 4th, 2025 as a day to honor the Orman Beach Police Foundation. Congratulations. Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> I think we're doing action. All right. >> All right. Thank you, gentlemen. Okay, moving along here. We have another proclamation. And at this time, I'd like to call up Kevin Gray.
Kevin, how you are? [Applause] Now, Kevin here is uh retiring after 36 years, but then I found out that he was gone his 37th year last month. We don't count those months. So, it's actually 36 complete. And uh we're happy to hear you
here tonight. Um we did um change the locks though, so you might not be able to come in after you leave. Um before I give you to read the proclamation, um do you want to say a few things? >> The uh the 36 years went by very very
fast. Uh city hall was not here when I began. Uh public works was not here when I began. And uh we were we gave a lot of input into building these buildings. Uh over the years, we've seen a lot of changes, a lot of positive changes for the city. Um when I came here, I didn't
think that I would be here that long, just maybe as a stepping stone. But uh I guess I liked you all so much I just stayed. So thank you very much to my family for putting up with me and to the commission. Thank you, Kevin.
Now, we do have a proclamation here and a plaque for you. But before I give that to you, I do have another special gift. And that is the key to the city. Now, this won't open the door though if it once it's locked, just so you know.
Thank you, Kevin. Now, we can hold the uh proclamation up. All right, here we go. Whereas Kevin Gray began his career with the city of Orin Beach 36 years ago, starting in field operations and later
stepping into ground breaking role as the city's first recycling coordinator. And whereas throughout his tenure, Kevin has held numerous positions within the city and has served as a mentor to staff members, imparting his knowledge, experience, and leadership to help shape
the next generation of public service professionals. And whereas Kevin has served the city with distinction as deputy public works director for the past 5 years, overseeing vital operations including storm water management, fleet services, street
maintenance, and roadside care. Kevin's work has ensured safety, efficiency, and continuity of essential public services through his leadership, extensive knowledge, and unwavering dedication. And whereas beyond professional contributions, Kevin has enriched the
community through his lifelong passion for hockey, coaching countless youth, and fostering a love for the sport while operating skate and shake alongside his family. And whereas Kevin is a devoted family man who now looks forward to enjoying a well-earned retirement
surrounded by his wife, children, grandchildren, and father embracing the next chapter of life with the same heart and commitment he brought to his career. Now therefore, I, Jason Leslie, mayor of the city of Orin Beach, do hereby proclaim November 4th, 2025 as a city to
recognize Kevin Gray. Congratulations. [Applause] [Applause] You want to bring Is that your favorite child? >> He wants his allowance though. This is my two. [Applause]
>> Thank you, sir. I drove this. Okay. How about another round of applause for everybody to receive the populations? Thank you. Next up, I'd like to invite FDOT to come up to present.
All right. Am I doing that or >> uh >> good to go? >> All right. Thank you. Well, good evening, uh, commission. My name is Jim Strose. I am uh the director
of transportation development for FDOT District 5 and I'm here to present on a project that we have programmed for Nova Road in Orman Beach. Um the purpose of this presentation is just to provide an update on the project. I also want to highlight some key improvements that we
have planned and then answer any questions that the commission may have before we prepare Whoops. for our um public engagement which is scheduled for tomorrow evening. All right. So on this slide here is a project overview. Um looking at a zone
map before, I think that this project actually touches all four zones of the city. Some of it might only be a couple hundred feet here or there, but uh it's a project that that does infect the entire city. Um the project is just under four miles and it starts at Flow
Street and extends north up to US1. And the primary improvement for this project is to resurface the existing pavement. Uh the project will also target key areas with access management changes to address crash trends that have been identified along the corridor. Um and
I'll get more into access management in a few slides, but the improvements will consist of a 16 ft raised median from State Road 40 or Granada Boulevard up to Wilmet. Um and a couple media and a media modification also at Aoyo Parkway.
Uh there also is a new traffic signal that's planned at Old Kings Road, which is across from the public's plaza. Uh and lastly, there's going to be several improvements along the corridor to the existing traffic signals. Um as leaders of the city, I'm sure you're aware that Nova Road corridor has
experienced several pedestrian and bike crashes. Um and this slide here specifically shows the area along um where the concentration is is mostly identified, and that's near Granada Boulevard up to Wilmet. Um there also has been several fatal crashes uh along
the same segment and um the improvements that I'm going to cover are proposed to reduce the potential for those fatal crashes occurring in the future. So as I mentioned earlier, the section of roadway between Granada and Wilmet is designed is going to be designed to
remove that existing two-way left turn lane that exists today uh which will be replaced with a 16 ft raised median that can be grassed and landscaped. Uh you'll see from this view, which was what we refer to as our typical section, the proposed roadway widths as well as the
locations of the six-foot sidewalks, which will remain on the outside of the road uh right at the edge of our rightway line, which are depicted by those those red lines. That's basically where the state property uh ends and where the private property begins. Uh you also notice that we do have a a
12t wide lane on the outside. This lane is uh intended to be the wider uh option for larger vehicles like buses and trailers and things of that nature. Um I hope that you can see this. If not, we'll send the presentation to you all so you can zoom in. But this is
essentially an aerial view uh of the corridor um which shows the locations of the median openings that are proposed uh with our access management plan. Uh you can see that there are median openings. I'm sorry, I should say north is to the right. Um, but you can see that there's
median openings that are proposed at Strhouse House Drive as well as Shadow Lakes Boulevard. I also want to circle back on that new traffic signal there that's located at Old Kings. Uh, this improvement will provide an additional protected signalized crossing for
pedestrians and bicyclists uh when they want to cross Nova Road. And this kind of goes back to our goal of improving the pedestrian and the bicycle safety along the corridor. Uh often we'll get questions about the benefits of access management and this graphic I feel does a pretty good job of
explaining those benefits. Uh the red dots are all conflict points where vehicles could potentially cross paths and experience a crash. So the picture on the left is a full median opening which has all the movements from from the side streets through movements, left
turns. Um and then the picture on the right is um after access management has been implemented and you can see that those conflict points are reduced by 75%. So the primary benefit to access management is the reduction of these conflict points which equates to
improved safety. Uh earlier in the presentation I identified the majority of those access management improvements are uh north of Granada, but there is also going to be a modification to Aoyo Parkway. Uh this was a location that came to our project
team's attention um based on a uh a concerned citizen. She uh they had uh reached out uh and expressed some safety concerns with that location. So we performed a traffic study and recommended the modification to a directional median opening at this intersection. And this diagram shows
some of the adjacent locations that the drivers from the side street will be able to perform U-turns. Uh so the good news is is that our design for this project is only months away from completing. Um and then since we do not need rightaway, all the improvements do fit within the state
property. Uh we are expecting to start construction on this as soon as next summer. Um, and then in closing, I just kind of want to touch on that community engagement event that I referenced in the beginning. Um, it's scheduled for tomorrow evening at the casings uh
starting at 5:30. Uh, notifications were mailed out last month. Um, but I really want to take a a moment to identify this uh this event. Uh, these meetings are extremely important to our team to get feedback from the community. In fact, I feel like we had a really successful
engagement a couple years ago with the A1A corridor, which was a good example of us getting feedback from the city, from the citizens, modifying our design, and then providing a project that essentially the city can be proud of, the leaders can be proud of, and that the city is is uh supportive. Uh, and
again, that's going to be our goal for this project as well. >> Yeah. >> So, um, thank you for that, by the way. And before I open up for some questions, are you able to go back to the slide on Nova?
That was in the beginning part, >> the aerial side. >> The um No, further back goes towards the beginning. Yeah, right there. >> Is that No, that's that's Nova Road. Granada. >> There you go. So, do we have are we
going to have a bicycle lane on Nova? >> There will not be a bicycle lane. No. Okay. >> Or I should say north of Granada, there will not be a bicycle lane. >> Okay. But that's is that an area that had a lot of pedestrian crashes and bicycle crashes it looks like here.
>> Yeah. The majority of these crashes were crossing Nova Road. So we are providing the additional crossing at Old Kings, a signalized intersection. It'll be a red, yellow, green traffic signal. Um that will provide a signalized crossing for pedestrians and bicyclists.
Okay. Um, questions. Uh, Commissioner Bryley. >> Mr. Mayor, thank you. Just one question. Um, on your signalized on your signal updates through the corridor, would you all consider changing out the protected reds to protective passive reds?
>> Uh, just so that I understand. So, right now there's the three section head with the red, yellow, green arrows. And you want the flashing yellow arrow. Is that what you're >> Yes, sir. So, so where you have like so for instance when you're on like say Nova Road at Hand Avenue and you have the protected red and you may have
somebody just just you know if say you're heading southbound you may have nobody coming northbound for >> you know >> 20 seconds where you could safely make that left turn. I didn't know if you are going to change those out to the protected path. >> So that is not part of this project but that is certainly something I'll make note of and we can take a look at it.
There are times where and not knowing all the history, but there are times where it may have been changed to that protected only um phase because of a crash problem in the past, but I'll have the team look at it and then we'll circle back. >> Yeah, that that Golf Avenue as well because they're every once in a while
you just pull up there and you just kind of unnecessarily wait because there's there's no one coming and you could have, you know, it it could be a safe >> and you said Nova Road at hand as well as the other traffic signals along >> Nova Nova and Hand and Nova and Golf. Those are the two I can think of right off right off hand. Sure. >> Thank you, Commissioner Deon.
>> Thank you. I'm optimistically cautious. Um, after the most recent Granada project, I would love if you could maybe assure the community that you've taken into account some of their feedback and some of the feedback that we have given regarding the raised medians and some of
the issues that we had. Is there anything that you can maybe speak to to say, you know, we we've listened and we're hoping to make sure that this project is not going to go to that effect? >> Yeah. definitely want to take advantage of feedback that we've received on previous projects. Some of those and those are more um speed management
improvements. So, they had some raised uh elements in the bulbouts and uh those have been removed. Okay. >> Uh from the project so as a result of coordinating with city staff. >> Thank you. I have one more for you that I'll get with you later regarding the bumpout that I have an issue with. Sean,
>> thank you. >> I'll be around. >> Okay. Commissioner Sergeant, >> thank you. Can you go to the next slide, please? >> Yes, sir. >> Uh, one more. Maybe another one. There we go. >> Um, so if I'm looking at this correctly,
the one on the left would be uh Nova headed northbound. >> I believe I believe this is looking northbound. Um, it's it's so so they should be identical, but yes, it's >> okay. So on the right then we'll say >> okay
>> headed north at Granada and Nova that lane currently far right lane is a right turn only. Are we turning that into a straight lane? >> No. So I should say that this is >> or I will defer to Jean. Are we turning it into a through lane a shared through
right? If you don't know >> the inter but the >> the raised median here is north of Granada. >> Okay. >> So So my concern here is that far right
lane should be a no turn on red because when I go to the office every day headed on Granada, I have to do a U-turn and almost get hit by people running that red light constantly. And I know several people in my office do that as well. Um, also on going northbound, is that going
to stay um as a right turn only or is that going to be a through as well? >> So, did you um the I thought this scenario you just described was a northbound right? >> Both of them actually north and southbound. Those far right lanes are turnonies.
>> Let me see if I can go ahead >> to one more. >> Yeah. Okay. So, yes. So both of those will remain uh I guess lane lane drop scenarios. So the right it it is a right
turn only for both northbound and southbound. >> Okay. Is there anything we can do at that stir house where it comes out there? I have concern because so many cars even though we put up poles and different things to try to deter people from turning left. And we
had a death there, a motorcycle death there a couple years ago. And I see that's open. But I know we have to have it open, I guess, for cars to come in southbound. Um, so I don't know if there's anything else we can do there. >> We we can. That was actually something that um Gene Verono is our project
manager. He's here as my backup, my phone a friend. >> Those are my only concerns at this point. I really appreciate y'all modify that coming and and presenting tonight. So, thank you. >> And just so I write it down correctly, the request is no right turn on red movements for northbound and southbound
>> at Nova Granada. Go. I would say while you're while you're there. >> Thank you. Yeah. >> Oh, >> yeah. Yeah. So, the one question, you answered it with um the mayor asked about the bike path that you don't have,
but would it make sense on that wider lane on the outside lane to um have the bicycle symbol there? So, people that are riding bikes, that would be their lane. and those that are driving would know that that's a potential shared.
>> So, so I will say typically um there is a symbol it's called a sher which is where the bicycles and vehicles can share the lane. Those are usually um placed for lower speed roadways. >> Um so we're too fast. >> Yeah. So this one here on a higher speed
road, we'd actually want to provide a full 5 to 7 foot bike lane and we just unfortunately don't have the room. >> Is the speed limit changing? speed limit is not changing. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. Y >> Yeah. Uh Commissioner Bley, >> if I may, just to Commissioner
Sergeant's point, I think what you could do on uh Nova Road, I think the problem becomes when you have the east and west Green Arrow, just put a blank out sign, no right, like we have over at Halifax and and North Halifax and Granada.
>> That would probably be the solution there. >> Sure. Any other questions? No. All right. Thank you for coming out, sir. >> Absolutely. >> Thank you. >> You will see some of us tomorrow >> for more questions.
>> Thank you. >> Okay. We're going to move on to audience remarks. Um at this time, we'll hear from those of you who have signed a card to speak about any item which is not on the printed agenda for this meeting or any items on the consent agenda. Each person will be given a total of three
minutes. As a reminder, please be sure to state your name um for the record and we kindly ask that you do your address as well. So, at this time, I'd like to call up Irene
uh Tardo. Sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. I can't Okay. Sorry about that. Couldn't read the script. >> Okay. Hello, Irene Toor 340 Cumberland Avenue. Our neighborhood is drowning with nowhere for any storm water to
drain. Valuchia County, we've recently heard, has 80 million to expand storm water capacity to improve drainage, reduce flooding. We need a lot of help. Seven blocks around us have retention ponds and working canals. We're the only
block without a retention pond or working canal. We need this dredge desperately so we have a place for storm water to drain. Back in February of 2020, um the uh our neighborhood experienced historic flooding according to your
engineers and they were supposed to have a $12 million grant. Nothing happened. Back in January 27 of 2020, you hired a geonastic consultants to put together a storm water master plan. Hundreds of
pictures, workshops, talked to neighbors, all the engineers walked our whole neighborhood. Nothing has been done. City when uh have always told us that the properties behind us are tidily influenced class one wetlands
unbuildable. I moved here in 1980 and for 24 years I had no flooding until three homes were built on filled dirt. Two on Andrews, one on Putnham. My first claim started 24 years later. Now I have 10 claims. Um
we know homes built on tons of field dirt destroy our wetlands. Our wetlands are destroyed. You can't build homes on our wetlands. We were very upset as a neighborhood when dump trucks delivered field dirt for 3 days to 480 West Street
on 223 2024. It's one of the worst flooding areas. A huge mound of field dirt was dumped and a large home was built. This should have been a stilt home. I don't understand how this home was built because now our flooding got
worse. The worst flooding in 45 years was Hurricane Milton. a rainstorm and we're underwater. My neighbor with his three little ones was this close to flooding, three kayaks in their backyard
and their the roads were so covered over with flooding water that their drains backed into the house and they could do nothing. This is so serious for our neighborhood. I'm begging for help that
something is done for us. I'm there 45 years and I don't know what to do anymore. I just need help. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Sean, can you follow up with her? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay.
>> Oh, okay. >> Yes. Um, I spoke to Irene ahead of the ahead of the meeting. >> We've I've known Irene for 15 years. I will continue to talk to Irene. The first pro the one of the projects that were recommended in that geocentech
stormwater master plan. One of those was a detailed design study of this area. That project is currently underway utilizing transform 386 money. So hopefully we are we are we are on the tracks to get to get to the end of this tunnel and and
and and as I've told Irene and I've told probably every single one of you there this area that that that goes from Sanchez Park down to Granada Beach Street to US1 is really where I think that the the our main focus for storm water is for the next next decade. So
Irene I know I know it's how it's been for you. >> We we we are working towards it. I know it's been a long long long road to get here. I think we're getting there. >> Okay. Thank you. >> And I think Commissioner Sergeant has something you want to say, too. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Welcome.
>> Thank you. Yes. Um this area, I mean, I was at a resident's house today on Melrose and she's flooded about six times and the drywall. I mean, it's completely um sad what she's going through as well. I don't know if we need to move this up for funding or whatever with our
legislative priorities in Tallahassee. Um, that's where I think we can get a lot of money to move these projects forward. Um, so I think we need to get with Doug Bell, our lobbyist, and this needs to be a top priority to get this whole area up in that area a resolution
sooner than later. >> What what what we're working on is getting to those shovel ready plans. We what we found from legislative funding, from grant funding, having things ready to begin construction gets us gets us a long way to get that money. That's our
goal right now is to get get get there. This area was developed in the 60s, early 70s. A lot of the pipes we're finding in there are certainly not not they aren't ones that our code today would allow. Um, so we need to get those replaced. The title issue is a whole
another issue, but but we're we're this is this is the area focus and this is area that we know is is trouble. We know a lot of these homes. We know those house on Melrose. We know Irene's house. We've got those hot spots and and and we're focused on getting those taken care of. So, um, thank you.
>> Thank you, Sean. Okay, next up, we're going to call uh Steve uh Berde Berthees. There you go. >> Hello, Steve. >> I'm Green Tador's life partner. We're together 30 years.
I uh here's a picture of uh the flooding we've had. Yeah, that's actually our backyard there. >> Steve, I'm sorry. Yeah, you just have to be in the microphone cuz Yeah, if you want, you can just stand on the seat there if you want and just talk in the microphone because we need to have this recorded.
>> That's good. Thank you. >> Came from New York at 70, moved to Holly Hill, and then we moved to Orman in 71 or 72. Cumberland Avenue, I've been there over 50 years off and on. I went I'm a veteran. Um, I've been coming to
these meetings with my family because uh they were the first ones on Cumberland Avenue, a builder named Norm Ray who we were friends with and he uh built the homes there and my parents bought one of the mo one of the model homes. My aunt and uncle bought another home there that
was being built and uh there were no ponds anywhere. It was all woods over there and dirt roads and my family had to fight with the city because Norm thought the city was going to pay for the roads and they got assessed. So I was a child coming here to these meetings. I've been coming off an 150
years and we come here because Alex and Sean have been good. They keep us up to date and the chain of command, the military, they always say go up the chain of command. Here we are. Just just put in your ear, you know, we need help. Um they the Army Corps of Engineer
behind Cumberland where Putnham is. They used to dredge that all the time. Irene moved here. She tried to buy property behind her so she would have the whole all the way to Putinham and they said no it's protected wetlands and well they ended up building and they brought if
you go if you go to Putnham there's a house on stilts over there. Everybody that knows that area. Make a long story short, we get flooded bad still and we're just here the city. Thank you for your service. I'm just please help us
out and uh continue doing your good job. It's been taking a really long time. I know now they're doing the pipes. Now, they're going to be doing some dredging, but I really believe I saw the ponds on Cumberland all the
way to uh North Young be dug. There was no ponds there at all. They dug them out. I don't know whether it was a city, Normary or whatever. And they dredged behind us and they never dredged there again for 50 years. And if they could
dredge that, I don't know if you got to get eminent domain because now people own over there. I think dredging would help 100%. That's my input. I don't know what you can do about it. That's what I have to say. And thank you.
>> Thanks for coming out. Next, I'd like to call Angela Noel. >> I'm Angela Noel. I live or No, whatever. I live at 2700 Ocean Shore Boulevard, but I'm here on 2290 Ocean Shore
Boulevard, better known as Seascape Condominiums. I had the look or whatever. I've been in for Sean constant contact. I've left two messages and I referenced the times and the dates
for your legal department. No response. I need to hear from them on this issue. Your impact fees are not for the septic to sewer is not in alliance with your
other terminology in your ordinances boys and girls and it was probably not done by most of y'all. I work if I as other federal agent with FEMA and I was going to tell you there
is this is an aside I'll take my time there is 404 mitigation money which is with your state and if it's doesn't have to be damaged in this disaster but your state emergency got 7% at the sixmonth mark of what FEMA had
for any of your last disasters and it's usually available first come first serve So, that's where you need to get a grant. Somebody can call me. I don't I don't I don't I'll give you my information. But, um I disagree with how
the fees are done. I do not feel they are legal. And so, I really think the legal department should first of all return some calls. But, we can play this out how we want. And um Steve and Sprer and y'all have all been great. I've seen
you and you saw you today. But um I want to understand how they came about. I want to understand why. Let me check. I'm a condominium. I get a commercial water bill. Oh, I'm a condominium. I'm required to pull a commercial permit
even in my own private residence. It's required. But then, so I'm a duck. I'm a duck. But then when it comes to an impact fee, I'm a goose. Oh, you've got to pay the single family residents. The
last email I sent you was the uh pipe single family residents because they send solids to your wastewater treatment plant. I do not know if you are aware I'm required for a lift station.
Therefore, I send you liquid stuff. individual homeowners send you um solids. Now, I didn't ask Sean and so I don't want to put anyone on the spot.
Do you know the cost difference of treating it? I can tell you, but we would appreciate examination. >> Thank you. >> And I'm available for any cause. Thank you. >> Thanks for coming out. Next we have Jane Doe.
>> Okay. So, my first request is for the council. Um, I'd like you to do everything you can to stop the FDOT from messing up NOVA just like they did Granada and A1A. Anybody here who lives here knows how
badly that went. They spent taxpayer money to build it and then take it down and then now I just walked the bridge this morning. It's still in rumbles. So, please do what you can. Number two and number three are for the constituents.
They tell you that you have to come up here. >> Um, >> I don't have to turn around. I'm talking to them, not them. >> Um, >> they tell you that when you come up here, you have to put your name and address on record. You absolutely >> Point of order. I'm being told that you
have to direct your attention at the >> No, I don't. >> I'm talking to the constituents. This is my 3 minutes of time. >> Point of order. Point of order. I'm not I'm not talking to you. I'm sorry. Point of order. I'm sorry. Sorry, I'm not talking. I'm sorry. No, listen. We have we have procedures here and I was directed.
>> My time is running out. >> Okay, we'll stop the clock for a second. >> I am talking to the constituents of Orman saying they do not have to say their name and address like you say they do. >> Okay, we suggested it first of all. Secondly, >> you require it. Lorie Tallen called out
Jason Mayor and said you're not saying to get their name and address >> like >> correct. Excuse me. >> You can go you can just direct your attention at us because that's what I was directed to do by the >> No. Okay. >> Okay.
>> Thank you. Thank you. Number three is exactly to this point. They work for us. We are the constituents. They sit on higher ground and they act like they have the control and they do not.
The fact that constituents sit here and complain about I've been here multiple times and constituents sit here and voice their concerns and they nod and they don't give you any conversation. They act like you don't matter and you
do. You are their boss. If you had an employee monthly meeting with your employee, right, saying, "How's your review? Let's do it." And your employee just sat there nodding at you, not saying anything, how would you react? You'd fire them. That was curse word
being eliminated. You'd fire them. They work for us. This is my 3 minutes. If they decide that they're not going to respond to me, that's their choice. But it's also our choice to say, "You're not doing a great job."
Keep that in mind with people who actually listen to you. And you do not have to say your name and address. That is 100% unconstitutional. whether they recommend it or not. You are a constituent of Orand or Valuchia when you go to count, you
know, county meetings. >> Thank you. >> Oh, you're so welcome. Little late. >> I did. The minutes of the October 21st, 2025 sub city commission meeting have been sent to the commission for review and posted to the city's website. Does anyone have any corrections or changes?
>> Move approval was submitted. >> Second. >> Any discussion? Seeing none. All those in favor by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> All those approved, disapprove. Okay, it's unanimous vote. Minutes approved. Um, we're going to move on to consent agenda. Items on the consent agenda are
deemed routine and non-controversial. The action proposed is stated for each item unless a city commissioner removes an item from the consent agenda. No discussion on individual items will occur and a single motion will approve all items. Does any member of the commission wish to pull any items from the consent agenda? And if you do, give
me one second. Take it right down. >> Move approval. >> Second. >> I'd like to remove R. Pull R. I'm sorry. So, can I get amendment on that to um approve minus R?
>> I'll revise it to move approval absent item R. Thank you. >> Second. Okay. Any discussion? Seeing none, uh, city clerk, please call the vote. >> Commissioner Toland, >> yes. Commissioner Sergeant, >> yes. >> Commissioner Deon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Brileley,
>> yes. >> Mayor Leslie, >> yes. Um, city clerk, can you please read consent agenda 7R? disposition item titled 2026 city of Orman Beach legislative action agenda.
>> Um can I get a motion to approval for discussion? >> So move. >> Second. >> Okay. Um I pulled this item because um I know we put our legislative priorities in there for the next session. And um before this meeting I thought like can
we do we have any other priorities in the city that we can ask from the legislature? and after listening to uh this resident just a little while ago kind of reassured me to make sure I ask about it. Um, so I thought maybe Sean or maybe staff can just kind of, you know,
really tell us if there's any other projects that we can focus on that would help with flood uh mitigation. when when we when Brian and I and and and Joyce we we met with our legislative assistant Doug Doug Bell and he advised
us one of the things are that the legislaturator is looking at right now. Water quality initiatives are are are the big one and so that's why we took this one to selected this one to um ask for this year. Um we're looking at reclaimed water redundant main across
the um Halifax River. We're looking at a sanitary sewer force main backup across the river. We've got this project shovel ready. It's it's 90%. It should be fully designed by the end of the year. We plan on doing this one anyway. We've got budgeted money to do this. We're looking for some money that we can get from this
from the state to help offset that that will help us to do some other projects. Um as far as additional projects. We're working with some some right now we're working with Fushia County Transform 386 um to hopefully get some money for a a
stormwater project. I think that all of the projects that we have that are ready to go that would be good candidates for taking to the legislature, we we're looking at either alternative funding sources or this is really our best chance. We were advised to not really go too far with with at this legislative
session. I think that they're going to be pretty lean and mean. We would really like to focus on one that we can have a good chance of getting. Um if we've got some other ones, we're we're open to to do it. But on the advice of of Doug Bell and and and um Leslie, I think that this
was a this was really they were advising us to to kind of really focus on in this direction. But if there's if there's any that anybody would like us to explore, we certainly can do that. >> Was anyone um Commissioner Riley, >> I would just concur with with with what Sean has said. Um, in my discussions
with a couple of our legislators, they expect this legislative session in 2026 to be even more stringent than 2025. Uh, they said we we'll be lucky to see much money this year from Tallahassee. So, I think this this project's been in the
works for quite some time. >> Uh, we it's it's shovel ready, as Sean has said, and I think that I think this is probably one of our more important projects. Thank you, >> Deputy Mayor. >> Yep. I've heard the same thing that um Commissioner Bryley just said um in one
of the in my closing comments and listening to the residents this this evening as well. I was wondering if maybe in addition to our transform 386 which seems is a great great pro it's we have three projects in the works I think
with that right now with the county. >> We've got five under under design right now. Right. >> We've got one that we are is in very late stages of review that we're looking to get potentially a couple million dollars for for constructions which is another shovel ready project. >> So, thanks to Sean for being really
proactive trying to get that money. But what I was going to bring up to you all is maybe and this is not the time to discuss it but maybe look at maybe a large bond that will get some of these projects moved quicker in addition to the 386
projects and I know that's something we have to discuss up on the dis but I think we're all hearing it every day you know how horrible the flooding is and let's just be clear flooding is really considered flooding when it's in a house, but when water is on your
property and it's threatening to your house, it's scary and you and you want to be able to address it. So, I think for I understand what you're saying. We need to get these things done um mayor, but maybe um maybe look at bonds or some
other way of helping us fund it. >> Yes. No, thank you. Um y and it's fair enough. I mean, like I said, I just, you know, when I hear about all the concerns from residents about flooding and I saw the legis, you know, the parties that we put in place, which is, you know, nice project, too. You know, I'm like, you know, hey, is is there anything that we
can ask for? But, uh, you know, but that that's the direction that the it looks like the legislator is going to offer to us, then I guess we're going to have to stay on track with that as well. But, um, Commissioner Sergeant, you had something you want to say? >> Thank you. I think we need to push forward with something to get
resolutions to this flooding in this area. It's gotten worse. Um whether it's dredging, whether it's whatever it may be. I understand that they look at shovel ready projects and I know that the budget's going to be tight and I you know to me it's as if I
was a resident sitting out there that to me screams another excuse, another five years, another you know and and I don't like that. I get it that there are priorities, but it's, you know, the resident I met with today at her house has no drywall 2 ft up. It's fifth time
it's happened to her in a few years, and it's like, where's, you know, it's at the point now where the insurance companies aren't even paying anymore. So, I I think it's time for us to step in and and really get a resolution to this area. Whether it's dredging, whether whatever it may be, we need a
resolution and we need to probably fasttrack it so maybe it can get added to this legislative uh year. Mr. Commissioner Brownley. >> And I'll also add, if I may, um all five of us were over um in the land last week at the legislative delegation and I I'm
sure each one of you heard I mean the the the topic of the day was storm water and storm water resiliency and and flooding and >> besides Daytona, right? >> Yeah. So I I think you know the legisl the the the at least our legislators
know the issues here that they're going to take back to Tallahassee. And you know we're not the only area where flooding is an issue. I mean it's happening all around the state. So maybe the the the legislature will you know be a little bit freer this year with money. I mean again it's not just
Orman Beach. It's not just Valuchia County. It's it's all over the state. So, I'm sure they're hearing it from other areas just beside, you know, beside Valuchia County. Thank you. >> Agreed. Any other further discussion? >> No. Oh. Uh, Claire, do you have something?
>> Just trying to confirm if there's consensus on revising that. Is that the >> I don't think so. >> Is there a consensus on revising the uh legislative priorities? if there's something we can fast track to get something for a resolution in this area,
whether it's a temporary resolution until we find a permanent solution, but I think we deserve it to our residents to find something in this area. And quite frankly, I understand that they're hearing it from around the state, but we're elected by Orm Beach residents to take care of Orman Beach residents. So,
I'm going to focus on getting money to Orman Beach. >> Agreed. So m maybe we could ask >> staff to come back to us. >> Yeah. >> Um with some ideas. I know you can't have a dollar amount on that, but but at
least, you know, to help and and I had a conversation today with Mr. Finley about some other issues, flooding issues, some hot spots. Um you know, maybe we I I know you have a list, Sean. You kept a list of all the hotspots. We had asked
you to do that. Maybe we could look at those and just see what we can do. Um >> anyway, it's >> okay. Yeah, I think we all have probably pet projects in our own zones because as Sean's aware, I took a 1-hour golf cart
ride with someone in zone 4. And you know, this is why I think I came to y'all >> back at the workshop and said, "Not only we need ditch cleaning and and and dredging, we need roadway rebuilding because roads, you know, some of the the pavement is is collapsing in some of these ditches which make them
non, you know, non-functioning. So, it's it's not just one area of the city, it's the it's really the entire city >> and on top of all the infrastructure that we're struggling to improve as well. I mean, it's it's very compounded and complicated.
>> Agreed. Uh, Commissioner Deon, >> I know one of my projects in my zone is the Hidden Hills, which is the Transform 386 project, and that's a that's a priority project. I would I do concur. I think we need to find some sort of solution, whether it's a creative solution. Kelly, I know I don't I don't know how you feel about bonds, but if
that's something we can possibly look at, uh, that we can try to remedy some of this quicker, um, any sort of creative solutions, I would love if staff could definitely take a look at that. That'd be phenomenal. >> Agreed. >> Agreed. And, you know, I I if I may, you
all took the first step with with this year when with increasing the the storm water fee. That's a that's going to be that is not money that's going to go wasted. That's money that's going to allow us to do some of these projects, you know, and to be able to do more for our residents. And so I I'll thank you
for that. We will take a look here at what products we have. We want to we want to come up with products that that have a have a fighting chance to get to get some money. We don't want to just put something in there just to just to put something in there. We want to be taken seriously. And so we'll do a good job of taking a look here in the next
couple days to find something that has a chance and that we that that with the help of Doug Bell and our people in Tallahassee can get some can get some >> Can you get to something to us before the year's over? >> We're going to have to get to you before probably the week's over here. >> Yeah. Okay. So,
>> I think that this is something we should keep in mind. We keep getting storm water conversations. I think this is something we should keep in mind coming into the new budget season. M >> this is something that we need to have on the top of our priority list. I know where we want to go budgetwise. I understand that. This is something we have to look at.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. So, at this point, we have a motion in a second, but I think we're going to have to amend the motion um to >> to uh give >> No, we don't have to. Okay. >> Okay. Got direction. Okay, that's fine.
>> All right. Well, then we're going to move on then. >> Need a vote on the motion. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Call the vote. Sorry. Uh Susan, city clerk, please call the vote. >> Commissioner Sergeant, >> yes. >> Commissioner Deon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Brley, >> yes. >> Commissioner Tolins, >> yes. >> Mayor Leslie,
>> yes. Do any commissioners wish to comment on any of the consent agenda items? I see Commissioner Sergeant's hand up. >> Comment on item G, the insurance. It kind of goes through all the insurance, but this
year, you know, after many years of having slight increases, this year we have a decrease of 1%. I think this shows that when you bring competition to the table, negotiations happen and the residents and the taxpayers save money. You know, we saved on the property and
casually over $300,000 year over year. Um, and on this one, we're saving money. So, I think that that shows that um um it did what we wanted it to do and provide the best coverage to our employees and at the best price for the
taxpayers. Thank you. Any like to comment? No. Seeing none. Okay, we're going to move on then. We're going to move on to 8A. Uh, city clerk, please read the legal title for ordinance number 2025-33.
Ordinance number 2025-33, an ordinance amending the annual budget for fiscal year 2024-2025 by amending the general fund 001, downtown redevelopment trust fund 104, storm water utility fund 107, airport
fund 108, economic development fund 110, pension contribution pass through fund 113, financing debt service fund 205, beachfront park bond fund 220, Capital Improvements Fund 301, Equipment
Renewal and Replacement Fund 302, Public Safety Vehicle and Equipment Fund 305, Transportation Improvements Fund 308, Facilities Renewal and Replacement Fund 317, Water and Wastewater Fund 401, Vehicle Replacement Fund 408, Renewal
and Replacement Fund 409, Water System Impact Feund 434, Wastewater System Impact Fee Fund 435, 2024 water and wastewater bond fund 446, solid waste fund 460 and general
liability fund 504 and setting forth an effective date. This is the first reading of ordinance number 2025-33 read by title only. >> A motion for approval. >> So moved. >> Um okay, you got that? Okay. Uh at this time, can I have Kelly Maguire, the
finance director, come up to speak about the item? >> Certainly. Thank you. >> Taylor, can you put that up? Thank you very much. It was there and now it's gone. So, your budget amendments for the fiscal year uh 24-25 year primarily consist of projects that
need to be carried forward from the 2324 year to the 2526 year. And those are construction projects originally budgeted in 24, some of which were started in 24, but were completed in the 25 fiscal year. So, we need to move those budgets. They're not new money,
but money that's just being moved from one fiscal year to the other. You also have about $6 million in emergency projects primarily related to Hurricane Milton. A million for the contract settlement with our solid waste hauler. And then there is about 12 million just
under 12 million for three water and sewer projects. Those are funded through bonds that were issued in October of 2024. And the last item is the $50,000 in police premium tax. Those are dollars
we're getting from the state and those will help to fund our police pension. >> I'm happy to answer any specific questions. >> No. >> Um, one question, Kelly, just so that we're transparent. Can you give just an example of what one of these things mean for like somebody in the public that's
reading it, looking at it on what if they saw it last year on the budget and why it's on the budget this year again? You're speaking of capital projects specifically. >> Yes, >> certainly. So, we can take the project across the street, Yasen Park. >> That project was in the budget and out of the budget multiple times over the
course of probably about 10 years. So, it was budgeted originally, right? 3 million. I think it was about a $3 million project. We started in the design phase and the commission at that time said, "We want to reimagine it, right? We're not happy where that's going." Um, so the project
was taken out of the budget and then several years later the project was put back in the budget, right? And that project budget has to be there in order for you as a commission to authorize a contract. So let's say for example, we were doing a project like Cassen Park
and you authorized that contract in September of 2024. Well, that's wonderful. You've authorized the contract. The budget is there as it needs to be, but the majority of the money is not going to be spent until October or sometime after
that. So now we've moved into a new fiscal year. So we have to move the budget along with that. And it's important to understand that we can have a project budget for a project that appears in multiple fiscal years. That doesn't mean we're spending that money
three or four times. We're spending it once, but we have to we have to meet certain requirements. State, federal, local, and then the government accounting standards board. >> Thank you, Kelly. Any questions for the finance director? >> Seeing none. Okay. Thank you, uh, Kelly.
I have some cards here for speakers. >> And, uh, first like to call up Jennifer Bright. Jennifer Brightite, Orman Beach. Tonight, you're here to approve 33.6
million in increases to the 2425 fiscal total line item of the budget. I feel the public needs to understand why the city is re revising last year's budget. Based off the information
supplied within the agenda packet, our city of council approved 30 resolutions totaling over $28 million last year. These res resolutions are driving 85% of the increase. Some of
the big hitters are the design phase of the police EOC, $558,000. Cessin Park, $2.5 million. Fleming Avenue storm water 1.2 million. Business Park Drive phase 2 construction $2.3
million. Tennis court resurfacing 600,000. Williamson Underground 497,000. Hudson Wellfield over 4.5 million and the state route 40 and airport road
force main loop construction and and admin costs over 4.6 million. Now I'm not saying this work should not have been done but most most of these items should have been included in the original budget so the residents can see
where and how this money is being spent upfront. There's not even time to address the other 15% of the increases which include the carry forwards from prior fiscal years and the staff purchasing.
As we are starting off this fiscal year, we're doing the same thing. This commission just approved the Nova Community Center gym ceiling repairs in a in an amount of over $99,000. This project was not budgeted even though the proposal came through dated
August 12th of 2025 and the purchase order was signed September 23rd of 2005. So why wasn't this added to the budget in the last meeting? Yellowstone CPIs were approved for over $50,000 and these
items weren't budgeted either. Hopefully, this will not set a trend of many more amendments and raising the budgets in this f future year. And if they weren't resolutions that you signed this year, then the data package wrong
because it specifies in there what fiscal year those resolutions came from. So, if they were in a prior year, as they're trying to say, like Cessnin Park, shouldn't it have been approved in a prior year and not approved this year? Thank you,
>> Commissioner Sergeant Kelly. Question for you on the tennis courts. That's a FEMA reimbursement, right? Yes. >> So, it wasn't budgeted because it was a hurricane damage and then FEMA, we got money from FEMA, so that's why there's an amendment for that, right? >> It's part of the $6 million of FEMA projects. That's correct. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> Right. And the other projects that were just mentioned, those projects were part of the fiscal year 2324 budget, many of them, and they're part of the CIP. So, all of that detail is available. They should have been tank one year.
>> Next is uh Colleen. I'm sorry I had to call the next speaker. Uh Colleen McMahon. >> Hello everybody. Colleen McMahon. I was not planning on speaking today because I'm pretty much going to go radio silent. So, we really don't know what Colleen McMahon's doing out there when we're talking to residents and not
really letting my brain out for all of you because I sent you multiple emails and like the resident here said, it's really just shaking your head and say, "Oh, thanks, Colleen." So, we're doing a lot of work out here as residents. We're talking to residents. So, going to the budget doge today, what you want us to
do is trust but not verify. This does not work in the real world. I will not trust and I will verify. So when we say when you're looking at the budget on the transparency portal, well, Colleen, that operating budget isn't really what it is. That's all we have to go by. We
cannot find the money because it's hidden here. It's hidden here. It's hidden here. Just like Jennifer said, we can't find it. But oh, you guys all know where the money's going. So when you tell me that we are not up $70 million over a period of three years, our
transport transparency portal tells us that. So, how am I going to go to the residents as a candidate and say, "Oh, just trust them. That's not going to work. I will not trust." So, with that being said, you're telling us the budget went up 14%. That doesn't even make
sense. So, people that do look at budgets, who do manage monies for companies, we know how to follow the money. You're just hoping we don't, but we are. Another thing I want to bring up to attention is a city manager department has six employees.
The highest salary for the city 277,384 with an annual income of Orman Beach resident is 67,000. Does that not make sense to everybody else out here? With six employees, it was a million87,872 for six employees. Period.
Kelly, I was glad you were able to verify we have 20 truest credit cards out there. Thank you very much. Zone one communities are speaking out to me. I'm hearing them. the wasteful spending over government. They don't have fiscal responsibility. So, I'm going to be very
open and transparent. I have been in touch with Tallahassee. I have been speaking with the with the Doge CFO. He is very interested in what's happening here in Orman Beach. During our conversation, he asked me to send him specific things, which I did. He confirmed receipt of those. So, on 9:23
um is when I sent up the initial information. 102 confirmed by him that I have re he has received it. he is reviewing it and then again today on 10:4 2:30 p.m. the rest of the information went up on the 2025 fiscal year budget. Big things he's looking at
is number one priority salaries. He wants to that was all sent to him. So I will I will send him up now that we close the year out. Second thing I would like to say is there are ways to save money. We cannot sit here and continue to do the same thing and getting the same outcome and not think that this is
insanity for us residents. We are here. We are watching. we are getting together. So know that when this when this election comes around in November, we're going to be ready. Thank you. >> Thank you. Um any more discussion here from the
commission? Any more questions for the finance director? Seeing none, we have a motion. We have a second on the floor. Uh city clerk, please call the vote. >> Commissioner Deon, yes. Commissioner Brileley, >> yes. >> Commissioner Taland, yes. Commissioner Sergeant, >> yes. Mayor Leslie.
>> Yes. >> Um, city clerk, please read the legal title AB ordinance number 2025-34. >> Ordinance number 2025-34 and ordinance of the city of Orman Beach, Florida, further amending article
1, general employees pension plan and chapter 16, pensions and retirement of the code of ordinances. Amending section 16-6, benefit amounts and eligibility. Amending section 16-9, vesting, providing for a benefit multiplier for
credited service earned on or after October 1, 2025 for members hired on and after December 19, 2012, providing for severability and provisions, repealing all ordinances in conflict herewith, and providing an effective date. This is the
first reading of ordinance number 2025-34 read by title only. >> Is there a motion for approval? >> So move. >> Second. >> Um can we have Kelly come back up again? The finance director to speak on the item. >> Certainly. I'd be happy to. >> Thank you, Kelly.
>> So this is You're very welcome. This is consistent with the NAGE contract that you approved earlier on the consent agenda. This is the pension piece. This was taken to the general employees pension board and they are recommending approval unanimously. I'm happy to answer any questions you have. Do
>> we have any questions for the finance director? Seeing none. Okay. Thank you. Uh any discussion by the commission? Seeing none. Okay. Uh city clerk, please call the vote. >> Commissioner Brley, >> yes. >> Commissioner Toland, >> yes. >> Commissioner Sergeant, >> yes.
>> Commissioner Deon, >> yes. >> Mayor Leslie, >> yes. Now we move on to staff and commission report suggestions request starting with the city manager Joyce. >> Thank you Mr. Mayor. Um just a review of your upcoming calendar. Your next
meeting is November 18th and that's a regular commission meeting and then you have two meetings in December. December 2nd is a regular commission meeting and December 16th is a regular commission meeting and then you will be off for the Christmas holiday. So, um just keeping
that in mind. Um as you know, um the Lmen family um is going to be having a celebration of life um at um on Friday at the Performing Arts Center starting at 11:00 a.m. for those of you that are
interested in attending. And lastly, um, we're truly appreciative of the working relationship the city and the Orman Beach Police Department has had with the Orman Beach Police Foundation. All the board members of the foundation have served on the dis in some capacity. So, they understand
firsthand how challenging yet rewarding this work can be. Yet, beyond their time up here, they continue to serve our city and look out for us with a great deal of civic responsibility and civic pride. And for that, I'm extremely grateful for their generosity.
Um, our home for the holiday parades will be on Saturday, December 13th at 6 PM. Um, and then we have co-ed, uh, basketball registration is underway. And the marvelous manatees at the EDC, a free familyfriendly program for students
grade K through 12 to learn about Florida's manatees. On Friday, November 14th, we will have two sessions from 10:30 a.m. to 11:00 and 3:30 to 4:00 p.m. And there'll be self-guided tours all weekend. I'm happy to answer any questions that the commission may have
for me tonight. >> Does anyone have any questions for the city manager? >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Joyce. Um, assistant manager, Claire Whitley. >> Uh, good evening. Um, I have a number of workshops that we'll be scheduling with you. So, uh, we'll have Jessica reach
out with dates, confirm your availability, and get those on the calendar, but I wanted to mention them. Um, as Kelly mentioned earlier tonight, the budget kickoff will be on March 3rd, but prior to that, we have a number of items. Um, code enforcement, as you
know, we're looking at um, tenatively we have that for January 20th. It's not confirmed, so we'll send emails out to all of you. Um, but it will be around that time frame. We should have something to bring back to you. as you know, we've got some driveearounds scheduled for you later in November. Um,
and then we'll bring the employee benefits to you um, fairly quickly and then the AI workshop that we just discussed. So, that's what we've got on our calendar for workshops and we'll get all those on your schedule. >> Thanks, Claire. Does anybody have any questions for Claire? Seeing none. Okay.
Thank you, Claire. Um, city attorney, >> I'm fine. Thank you. No. Okay. Uh, we'll begin this evening with Commissioner Sergeant. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, yesterday, actually, I'll back up. Saturday, we had
the drive-thru lunch that Halifax Health pays for for our veterans at the senior center. Uh, well turned out event. Um, it's great to be out there for a few hours passing out lunches. Um, I was a little disappointed that the fire didn't
have the flag because I guess it was the big flag is being utilized somewhere else. So, I think we need to um purchase two or three extra flags so that that doesn't happen again. I don't think they cost probably too much money. Um, but
it's always a great event when you drive through and you see the big flag hanging from the fire truck and we didn't have that this year. I think that's a great idea. If you need consensus on that, >> we need consensus on that.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> Last night we attended the ribbon cutting at the new Halifax Health ER, which is going to be 21 beds. >> 26. >> 26 beds. Thank you. Um on the corner of >> Williamson and Hand. Um, you know, we
talk about how overloaded our medical facilities are. I can attest, going to um, Advent with my mom many times are in the hallways. They don't have enough beds. Even though they're building, they're probably already outgrown that. So, it's nice to have an alternative for our residents to go to. Um, 26 beds is
going to be and they can do everything but MRIs, >> I think is what they said. >> Blood draws, >> scans, and M. So, um that was great. Um the mental health app that they want to
uh bring it up that uh chief uh it's the app that um the foundation wants to help provide, but I think the city's going to need to contribute to that. And this is a great app because as we know as veterans and
police and fire, you don't want to talk to Sally, the mental health person. You want to talk to someone that has been in your shoes. And I think this is a great opportunity for our uh police to have someone like that. So, I don't know if the foundation's going to provide that,
but there's going to be an ongoing cost that I think we're going to have to utilize or um have going on. Um, I'm all for it. I think it's very important that we uh provide that to our first responders. Um, I don't know if it's available to for fire, but I think we
need to extend it to fire as well. I think sometimes we leave fire out. Um, and uh, so I don't know if that's avail I don't know all the details of it, but if we can look into that, Joyce, I think >> we'll look into it. >> Thank you. Um,
Veterans Day lunch tomorrow. Is it already this Thursday? No, Thursday the 6th. >> Yeah. Yeah. Thursday >> from 12 to 2 uh at the senior center. Um another great event that will be um put on
Tuesday the 11th. Orman Memorial Art Museum will have their Veterans Day celebration from 11:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. They will have a great keynote speaker. >> And who's the keynote speaker? >> You'll have to um attend to find out.
Um, we also have uh what else do we have here? Say national night out will be November 10th. >> Rockefeller Gardens from 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.
Uh, thank you to staff for the Doge workshop. I think it's a great starting point. Um, it was nice to have the advisory board there as well. and Kelly, thank you for providing the budget information and I do look forward to having that tab on
our website for the Doge so that we can um be as transparent as possible to our residents and help them find the information that maybe they're >> Doge workshop discussions. >> Those minutes will be available on the website.
I'm not sure when, but we can provide them. Um, and as I stated in the Doge workshop, I don't think we need to limit oursel on going, you know, putting a threshold of we need to get to flat on our taxes or
we need to get to roll back. At the end of the day, we need to get rid of all wasteful spending and to be as efficient as possible with the taxpayer dollars. Um, with that, I'll say good night. >> Good night, Commissioner Deon. Thank
you. Uh, Commissioner Sergeant went over most of our events except tomorrow is employee appreciation day, so we will be there. Thank you to all of our employees. Um, I'd like to give a quick update on the Walmart project. Steven Spreaker, I'm so sorry. I know I was a
pain in your butt during this entire ordeal, but they have been actively working for the past what week and a half, and it's looking so so so much better. If anybody drives by, you'll see that the landscaping has been definitely um put to work this past week and a half
and I'm very appreciative of that. Um Orman Beach Police Foundation, I'm really excited to see them and Mr. Lamar Learand honored for everything they do for this community. Um I'm excited to help them raise or try to help them raise the additional $75,000 that they
need. Um, I would like to thank our own veteran commissioner sergeant for his efforts with the hometown heroes drive-thru, feeding veterans from our own community this week. We do appreciate your service. Um, and lastly, I think this is quite fitting with tonight's conversations. Daytona Beach offers a program where
citizens can adopt a storm drain to maintain. I think it's a good idea and I would like to possibly implement this in Orand perhaps with improvements. It would be a different type of adopt a road or neighborhood watch. Residents can proactively clear drains of palm frrons and debris. Or if you're unable
to, you can call the city or your HOA to assist. If you see something, say something, but on a more proactive and periodic approach rather than a week before a hurricane. There are 4,396 storm drains that are privately maintained by private or commercial
property owners or HOAs and 5,622 city-maintained drains. These storm drains flow into the inter coastal waterway or the Tmoka River and should be kept free of debris, grass, fertilizer, and other harmful discharge. Although the city proactively targets
known problem drains, volunteers are invited to adopt a drain. I don't know if anybody has any input on that, but I did a little bit of research and it seems to be doing a little bit of help in Daytona Beach. >> I'm good with it. >> I think it's great. Is that something that you would do through parks and recreation?
>> I don't know. Maybe get some staff input on that. >> Um public works. >> Public works. Yeah, that seems more appropriate. I know I've talked to Sean about it quite a few times and >> he thought it was an interesting project that we could bring up. >> I think Suzanne Shrivever with Dream Green has done that um down in maybe New
Smyrna Beach as well. She might be a good resource. >> And it's I think Holly Hill >> cost effective. It's free. >> Yeah. Easy spread awareness. Great idea >> on that one. >> Okay. So, if we could maybe I don't know. Do we need a workshop or something to start with that? No. Just just direct
staff to Okay. All right, works for me. Thank you. >> Have a good night. >> Have a good night. Uh, Commissioner Riley. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, I'll be pretty brief. Um, one thing Deputy Mayor Talen mentioned earlier was the potential for
bonds for storm water. And, you know, in hearing what we're hearing that may or may not occur in Tallahassee, that's a big question mark. It's an unknown. And that's one reason we voted last well
3 or 4 months ago to go ahead and increase our storm water fees because we don't know what Tallahassee may or may not give us. >> Um, as a former commissioner has said previously in these chambers, if residents feel that something's very
important, they'll approve a bond to finance it, to fund it. We did it with Andrew Romano Park and with something as important as flooding, it it may work. It it will help if if
nothing else, it'll help. And as Commissioner Sergeant pointed out, you know, we all we represent Orman Beach and and my point was earlier that I think the legislature is starting to get the the idea from all around the state that the flooding is an issue, not just
in Orman Beach, but he he's right. We look out for Orman Beach. So, um, if that were to occur, if we did decide to to float a bond to be put on the ballot, we would have to come up as a city, um, you know, all four zones with some
sort of, uh, plan for for parody throughout the zones. And Sean, I know I know Sean would work with us on that um, to take care of. So, it is something I guess to consider not knowing what Tallahassee may or may not do in the coming year or even two years
>> as far as is as is money for you know providing money to the cities for flooding. Um my only other issue this evening or other comment is um this community
lost a great leader in Lman last week and the Lman's have been very philanthropic in this community. Um everything from the Halifax Humane Society to Halifax Hospital to the Orin
Memorial Art Museum to um gosh the Museum of Arts and Sciences. The list just goes on and on and on and on. And they have never asked for anything in return. And I was fortunate to to
know LOL quite well. we he and Nancy and I would would we spent many many days watching Florida State football games and uh most of the time they won and uh but any case um I had a thought and I
thought I'd bring it to the commission and see what you all thought if there's any interest. Um I know there's been conversation at the county level about naming roads for people
Um, this I'm not proposing changing the name of a road, but by chance giving it a designation, such as, for instance, what we have on Nova Road north of Granada Boulevard, how it's designated the Robert F. Grim
Memorial Highway that was designated by the legislature. They do that because it's a state road. The county does it for for county roads such as on on 415. My suggestion would be to name
or not rename but designate John Anderson Drive from Granada Boulevard to the northern city limits the Loman Memorial Trail. So that's just my two cents and if there's
any >> I I mean I like that. Um, any particular reason why you picked John Anderson? They live on >> the loms live on John Anderson. >> Yeah. Okay. All right. I figured that. >> And it's on the beach side and they, you know, it's not too far from their their
new Cupo residence. So, you could either do that or or or North Halifax from, you know, Granada to John Anderson. That would go in front of the Cupo, which the little ones have. But, it's just a thought I think would it would be a nice way to memorialize LOL and his contributions to our
community. Deputy mayor. >> Yeah, I think it's very honorable, you know, doing something like that. I'm I would not be ready to say yes to a certain road at right now. There may be another opportunity that we may want to
consider. So, I wouldn't mind discussing that or coming up with a few other ideas first. Um I think sometimes it So, you're considering you're you're saying like a plaque type thing, >> correct? It wouldn't be renaming John Anderson Drive. It would just
>> because I would not be fond of renaming a road. >> No, I'm not. I'm not proposing renaming the road. Just, you know, it would be a designation of the Lola Elwoman Memorial Trail. >> Yeah, I think that that wouldn't I wouldn't be opposed to something like
that, especially around their the Koopala or where they lived, but I still think we should probably discuss a little bit before we make a snap decision. I just put out for discussion. >> Okay. Commissioner Sergeant, >> thank you. And I think the Lman's have
done a, you know, a great job in our community giving back. But I think, you know, when we look at lowering the flag to half mass, you look at dedicating roads, those are for fallen officers, for veterans. Um, I think that if you
start dedicating roads, before you know it, every road in our city is going to be dedicated for someone that has given back to our community. Nothing against the Lman's by any mean. I just don't think that we um should start dedicating different roads. Um maybe there's
something else we can can do, but I I would be a no on that. >> Okay. All right. Well, we'll touch on it again. Thank you, D. Harold, why don't you come why don't you come up with some other ideas that we can discuss?
>> I can. I mean, so my my my point with with with the road is and again it wouldn't be changing the name of the road. It would just be giving it a designation such as Port Orange did with the William V. Chapel Memorial Bridge and that was for a congressman who served the area. So, >> you know, again, it's somebody who gave back to the community. Um, again, I just
kind of chose I chose John Anderson and we could also do North Halifax because those are city streets and we actually had the control over those that we could rename. Not rename them, but give them the designation. So, >> do Yeah. Commissioner Deon,
>> do you know how much it would cost to do that? >> Just two signs. >> Okay. >> One at each end. >> All right. Do you have any other closing comments? No. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh, Deputy Mayor, it's your turn. >> Thank you. Um,
I'll try to be I'll try to be brief. First, I just wanted to thank Kelly Maguire and Chris Bile for um making a complicated subject for me, clarifying it and and keeping and making it very easy. Um, I do appreciate the very
thorough um explanation of of carrying over. I very much appreciate it. Um, congrats to um Gail Limon and Jill Simpkins. You know, they are amazing
folks, very philanthropic. And I'm just blown away by the police foundation and um what they were able to start up again and what they're able to do for our police. So I would like to join you, Kristen, in trying to locate some funds
to to help as well. Um congratulations to Kevin Gray. I know he's left. He's got a beautiful family. Didn't realize he had such so many children um on his retirement. Um,
Walmart is looking good. Commissioner Deon, you asked me to go by and take a look and I drove by it multiple times and yes, cannot wait for them to clean up that wall, but it's really nice to see um u that natural area being getting
cleaned up. Um, I do want to extend my sincere sympathy to the Lman family and and Commissioner Bryley. I really do appreciate what you're what you're trying to do. I hope we can come up with a a good a good way of honoring um LOL.
What I would like to do, if you all don't mind, um, I asked Robert Caroline to put together some numbers. We we we have a few residents that don't feel our fields are used or they're underused and all. So I asked Robert if you all
wouldn't mind if he would come up just share with you some numbers on our parks and our um programs. It's just a really quick brief summary. And >> thank you. >> Thanks Robert. You got a minute. Robert
Carolyn, leisure service dire, excuse me, parks and recreation director. Um, basically these are numbers that are relevant to Nova Community Center complex, the sports fields that are there at the Nova Community Center, predominantly baseball fields, and then
also the uh Orman Beach Sports Complex, which is soccer fields, football fields, baseball fields, softball fields. Um, so, uh, essentially we have had, and I want to be clear about this, the the
numbers you're about to hear are numbers for individuals that participate in the programs there and the spectators that come to watch those individuals. And they're they're tallied by the day. So,
um the same person if he if Joey has two games uh a week, then he's going to be counted twice. If his mom and dad come um both times, and his sister, however that is, then they'll be counted twice as well. So, I just want to be clear to
they're they're numbers that seem really large, which they should be. Um but it that's it's tallied daily. Okay? So, just wanted to let you know that. Um, we have had a total at Nova Community
Center approximately 4,300. This is only for the month of October and we will be um also offering the these numbers up to anyone else that'd like to see those um every single month. But anyway, uh for the Nova Community
Sports Complex baseball fields, uh we're looking at approximately 4,347 visitors. Uh total spectators uh were 3,15. Total participants 1,242
for the month the month of November uh excuse me, October. Uh at the sports complex, we had approximately 29,169 visitors. That's just for the month of October. And that breaks down um 19,000 of those
were spectators, give or take. uh and a 7,614 participants. Those are kids, adults on the fields uh participating in programs. We had approximately 423 games/practices
at the at the uh Orman Beach Sports Complex for the month of November. And we had approximately games uh those were predominantly run by our sports associations. shows you the volume of games and partic uh participants that
they uh offer up. And then we also had our cityrun programs, 40 total games/practices at the sports complex as well. Um I I think it's important that we also recognize that we had approximately
8,212 or 512 volunteer hours. That's the hours that these parents, these coaches, um, and, uh, the associations are putting in to, to provide these services and offering these programs for our
community. So, I thought that was pretty substantial for just the month of October. >> Can I ask one question? >> Sure. >> And at any given time, there could be up to three teams on one field for one practice, correct? >> At times, yes, ma'am. >> Mhm. >> Depending on the field.
>> Yeah. Appreciate it. And you know, I'm hoping maybe once a quarter or something you can just share with us some numbers. I think I think it's just important for the residents to know that we really do use our parks and recreation and I appreciate the work. >> Thank you for the opportunity.
>> Thank you. Uh couple more things. Um attended the storm water mitigation meeting. Um just you all need to know that the cities are still continuing to work really hard with the county. Um transform 386 Orman
Beach is always represented well. Mr. Finley attends um those meetings with myself. Um they're working very the county is working very hard to get a website up and running where all cities are inputting their projects
uh and put and upcoming projects. So you can actually see what um you know they don't ever want a project that would hinder another neighborhood. So you can see like if Holly Hill was doing something ab budding to us, we would know that they're working on something.
So it's a it's a big collaborative effort. Um I did note with our emails we got firstep shelter report and I don't know if you all had a chance to look at them and the numbers. Orman Beach
participates but not a whole lot. And I'm just wondering and I'm just throwing it out to staff generally figuring out is there any way we can utilize their services more even Holly Hill in the last month or so had 20 residents um go
to First Step as opposed I think ours was like three or four. So anyway, it's just just a thought to throw out there. And the last thing I want to say is some really good news. I wanted to say it last meeting and I totally forgot, but
you know, our our home for the holidays parade is December 13th. Couple weeks ago, um Kevin Bowler from Daytona Beverages reached out to me. he's a friend and said that his company won the top award for the nation for dis
distribution and the award that that he was given was the Clydesdale horses and he offered the horses to our Christmas parade. So, Robert and staff have been
working um to try to work that in. It's going to happen. I don't know how it's going to look, but we will have the Clydesdale horses in our parade this year. So, I am really excited and I just publicly want to thank Daytona Beverage
for thinking of us, particularly Kevin Bowler and his team. So, with that, I'll say good night. [Music] >> That's pretty cool actually. >> Yeah. Um before we adjourn this evening, um I'd like to see if uh Sean can come up and just give an update about the
Fleming Avenue construction project that we've gotten some phone calls about and emails. Excuse me. Uh yes, they had an update meeting this very afternoon to to talk about timewise. They are in the home stretch. They've laid the last pipe, I
believe, or they're in the process of laying the last pipe. They are in the process. They should be done with pipe, done with heavy equipment by this week. They should have everything restored enough so the people for Thanksgiving so the people will have their ability to park park their relatives and and guests
as they come to their homes. Um may not be fully restored as far as sod and everything, but everything will be graded out so that way um won't impact anybody's holidays and then they'll come back if they haven't gotten the sod laid and full restoration. It'll be done within the the next week or two after
that. We are definitely in the home stretch and and hopefully um out of the business of having people's lives impacted by by >> Thank you, Sean. Um while you're there, stay up. I got another one for you. Um I'd also see if you can give me an update about the Andy Romano Park Seaw
wall and we're still on track to complete that project. >> Uh we're going to bring back to you. We we've had some issues with that project. We are going we have found out that our contractor is not going to be able to perform. We're going to bring some back an update to you to that at a later
date. Um, as we're as we're working through some issues with that currently, but um, as soon as we have some further details, we're we're going to bring >> you know when to expect to bring that to us or >> I'm hoping to have it to you at the next meeting. Have have an update for you at that meeting? Yes, sir. >> And uh, regarding the paid pro parking
program, are we still on track to implement that? >> I I think Ann Margaret can answer that better than me. >> Yeah, that uh that's on hold. And um because of the construction project uh for a couple reasons. I think um I think
the um it needs to be re-eval re-evaluated on um you know the income that it will or maybe will or will not bring and also during construction um the way the contract was proposed um it
was going to be the city would be paying uh per parking spot. Well, unfortunately during construction, a lot of those parking spots are going to be used uh for staging. So, it really wouldn't be a good time to implement that because we'd be paying for something that we're not
using. So, so it's been put on hold. >> Uh Joyce, >> if I might say so, I think um the county's contract is underperforming in revenue and so we're very concerned about that and how those have been estimated. So, we're taking a closer look at that.
>> Okay. That's the reason why we're concerned about the revenue. >> Yes. >> Because of the county and how they underperformed. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. Appreciate that update. Um, thank you, Sean. >> Yeah. Okay. Uh, thank you for that. Um,
have we received any response from the FAA concerning the former Riverbend golf course request that was submitted some months ago now? Have we received any um any information back from the FAA when we sent the letter out about River again Riverbend Golf Course?
>> Nothing to report, Brian. Okay. Appreciate that. That's Brian Rodermacher, by the way. Um okay. I'd like to take a moment to thank the Or Beach Police Foundation for their continued support for helping our police department obtain state-of-the-art equipment. Their efforts
are truly make a difference in our community and making our community safe. I also want to thank realy pros and title for hosting an excellent community appreciation event. The costume contest was a lot of fun and I think everyone here from the commission was here right
for the costume contest, right? >> I was not. >> Oh, okay. Yeah, that's right. You were we had a lot of fun. Um the co the hot dogs were excellent and the weather couldn't have been better. Uh that was a reschedule, so it actually worked out good. Um congratulations as well to all
the teacher of the quarter recipients and the sponsors who make that program possible. I always enjoy visiting our schools here in Orin Beach. Um each of you plays such an important role in shaping the next generation, the young people who will one day be leading and
caring for our community. Thank you again and congratulations. Uh last week I had the opportunity to speak before our legislative delegation. They were very enthusiastic about all the great things happening in Orange Beach. On behalf of uh myself, the city commission and our staff, I express our
appreciation for their continued partnership and their support in helping our city secure key uh key appropriations. I look forward to following up with them in Tallahassee during the upcoming legislative session to re review our city's priorities. Uh my thoughts and prayers to Nancy Lman
and the family for their loss. Um with that, I'll close this evening by saying enjoy the cooler weather after a long hot summer. And as always, please stay safe. Meeting adjourned.