Time now is 7:01 p.m. I'll now call this meeting to order. At this time, I please ask everyone to silence your cell phones and any other electronic devices. Your greeters at the door tonight are parks and recreation director Robert
Caroline and human resources manager Samantha Pototts. Starting to my far right and far left, we have recording secretary Tail Lockard. City clerk Susan Doris.
Zone one Commissioner Deputy Mayor Lorie Taland. >> Good evening everyone. Welcome. >> Zone 2 Commissioner Travis Sergeant. >> Good evening. Welcome. And directly to my left and to your right, we have zone 3 Commissioner Kristen Deon. >> Good evening everyone. >> Zone four Commissioner Howard Bryley.
Good evening everyone and welcome. >> City manager Joyce Chanahan, assistant city manager Claire Whitley, Deputy City Attorney Ann Margaret Emery, and to my far left and your far right,
we have police chief Jesse Godfrey. And that is not Chief Bailey. >> Yeah, we have Cordier. Can I say his name right? We have Cordier, Captain Cordier here. and I am Jason uh Leslie, mayor of War Beach. At this time, I'd
like to call up Pastor Aaron Swigert of Tammoka Christian Church to give the proclamation uh followed by the pledge of allegiance. >> It'll be the invocation. >> Invocation, sorry. Yeah. >> Let's pray. Father, we thank you for your goodness, your grace, your mercy,
and your love. And Lord, I pray for all of us in this room tonight, Lord God. I pray that your grace would fill our hearts, Lord. Um, Lord, I don't know what everyone has going on, Lord, but you do. And, um, Lord, you know the plans of everyone here. You know what's on all our hearts. And Lord, I just pray for wisdom as you govern this meeting,
Lord God. Um, that we would allow you to govern this meeting. Um, Lord, that our ideas or agendas or things would not get in the way, but Lord, that you would just give us the wisdom that we need um to do what you best um Lord, for
everyone in this city. Lord, may we not seek to serve ourselves, but may we seek to serve the people in this community. Um, for we ask it all to your glory, King Jesus. Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen.
>> Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, pastor, for the invitation.
Okay, we're going to move on to the presentations and proclamation section of the agenda to today. Uh we have three of them. At this time, I'd like to invite members of the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce that are present to come up to receive the proclamation. Hello. Okay.
How are you? >> Good. >> Joseph's, nice to see you. Um, at this time, I'll have you hold up the proclamation and I'm going to read it out. Whereas Hispanic Heritage Month is
observed annually from September 15th to October 15th, celebrating the rich and diverse cultures, histories, and contributions of Hispanic Americans with roots in Mexico, Central and South America, Spain, and the Caribbean. And
whereas the city of Orin Beach proudly honors the legacy, traditions, and vibrant spirit of Hispanic communities whose influence is deeply woven in the fabric of our country. And whereas Hispanic Americans have made significant contributions to Orman Beach through
leadership in business, education, public service, the arts, and civic life, including local entrepreneurs, educators, artists, and advocates who continue to shape and inspire community. And whereas this year's theme,
collective heritage, honoring the past, inspiring the future, celebrates the enduring impact of Hispanic Americans while encouraging future generations to build on this proud legacy. And whereas participation in local events during
Hispanic Heritage Month fosters a deeper understanding about the rich history, culture, and lasting contributions of Hispanic Americans to our community and nation. Now therefore, I, Jason Leslie, mayor of the city of Orin Beach,
Florida, do hereby proclaim September 15th to October 15, 2025 as Hispanic Hispanic Heritage Month. Congratulations. You're welcome. I'm going to do a picture real quick, please. And uh anybody else or
just Okay, so just us. Okay. They don't say what's name, but most people are late. So 51. >> Okay, we're in Caribbean time, right? >> That's it. >> All right, that'll do it. >> Thank you. >> Hold on. One more. Okay.
>> Thank you. >> All right. One more for the uh >> All right. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> I don't know who's on the agenda next. I'm going to go to Okay. All right. Next up, can we have a
representative come up from uh receive the proclamation for Reb red women ribbon uh red ribbon week? Come on up. How are you? Good. What's your name? Young >> Lillian Hugh, sir. >> All right. Good to see you. Uh would you
want to hold out the proclamation for us or maybe uh Okay. All right. Here we go. Whereas the Red Ribbon Campaign is the nation's largest and longestrunn drug use prevention campaign, This Week was
established by Congress in 1988 to encourage a drug-free lifestyle and foster community involvement in drug prevention and reduction efforts. And whereas the week of October 23rd through the 31st have been designated as
National Red Ribbon Week, promoting awareness and encouraging Americans to wear red ribbons as a visible pledge of support for a drug-free environment. And whereas the red ribbon chosen as a symbol commemorating the work of Enrique
Kiki Kamarana, a drug enforcement administration agent who was murdered in the line of duty, represents the belief that one person can make a difference. And whereas the theme for 2025, life is a puzzle, solve it drug-free, emphasizes
how every decision we make is a piece of a larger puzzle, and choosing a drug-free life is essential to solving it. And whereas hope in winning the war on drugs lies in education and drug demand reduction, coupled with the hard
work and determination of organizations such as the Young Marines of the Marine Corpse League. And whereas citizen support is one of the most effective tools for reducing illicit drug use in our communities, empowering us all to act. Now therefore, I, Jason Leslie,
mayor of the city of Orin Beach, do hereby proclaim October 23rd through 31st, 2025 as Red Ribbon Week. [Applause] >> Is there anybody else with your group? >> Um, she is.
>> Oh, okay. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. Thank you. >> Can you pass some of these out to everybody? >> Um, if you want, just How many do you have there? >> A lot. >> Oh, really? Leave with the city clerk right there and she'll pass it out to everybody. How about that? Okay. >> All right. Thank you. Have a round of
applause for every Thank you. Oh. Oh, thank you. Oh, that's great. Oh, awesome. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Before you go anywhere, hold on. I got something for you, too. I got to see if I can find it. Hold on. Okay, there you go. There's a challenge
going for you. All right. You're welcome. Okay. Can we have uh someone come up for Florida City Week? Florida City Week? >> No. >> There would be Joyce. >> It's in
>> Oh, there we go. Come on down, Joyce. You got to have some fun there. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Whereas city government is the closest form of governance to citizens and has the most direct impact. Municipal
government provides services and programs that enhance the quality of life for residents, making their city their home. And whereas city government is administered for and by its citizens and is dependent upon public commitment and understanding of its many responsibilities.
And whereas the Florida League of Cities, Florida City Week offers an important opportunity for elected officials and city staff to spread the word to citizens that this branch of government is influenced by public input and civic engagement. And whereas this week the city will be engaging the
community through social media posts, sharing fun facts about city operations, jobs, and employees. And whereas other city activities recognized in this week, including hosting the Chambers Youth Leadership Program, having an information booth at the Main Street
Farmers Market, and holding its annual employee appreciation lunchon. Now therefore, I, Jason Leslie, mayor of the city of Orin Beach, do hereby proclaim October 20th through October 26, 2025 as Florida City Week.
>> Oh, you're welcome. And now time for a photo. everybody that received their proclamation. Thank you. Okay, we're going to move on to audience remarks. Um, at this time we'll hear from those of you who have signed a card to speak
about any item which is not on the printed agenda for this meeting or any items on the consent agenda. Each person will be given a total of three minutes. And first person I'm going to call up is Jennifer Bright.
Good evening, Jennifer Brightite, Orman Beach. I would like to thank the city for posting six of the nine workshop minutes to the website, but they have not yet been approved. Which leads me to ask, if they did not need to be approved, why did it take the city so
long to post these to the website? And why did the city not post all of the workshops? The workshops posted took place between April 1st and August 19th of this year. The goal setting workshops
from March and May being two of those not yet posted. These workshops are referenced in resolution number 2025-121 that states these updates are set forth in the 2025 strategic plan. There
appears to there appears to be a lack of transparency that none of these workshop minutes were made available until the new budget was approved and those with direct ties to resolutions are still not available. I would again like to request that the
workshop audio be posted to the website. Access to the regular commission meetings recordings is usually posted 24 hours after the conclusion of the meeting. But if the residents want to hear the audio from the workshops, you must do a foyer request. The regular
commission meetings are posted to the website in a timely fashion. Why not the workshops audio? Why must the citizens jump through hoops and make formal requests to find out what's going on in their city? Thank you.
[Applause] >> Um, next up is Anthony Conford. Excuse me. Sorry. I I feel like uh we're finally getting to know each other here, guys. Thank you so much for giving me a couple minutes. Um last time I was here,
I wanted to exercise the Robert's rules of procedure section 6.5D, which uh I think it's a very kind motion just to reopen uh my application 2025-26. Um I really believe there's enough witness in this room to get it done. And I was talking talking with some constituents of mine and um you know the
the legal wards of the state that can give advisory on what the future of this proceeding would be if it got approved um had told me that maybe we could implement something along the lines of a beverage establishment meaning uh maybe hand out x amount of you know licenses
per year andor poor zone which would maybe give some grip to the slippery slope um and not only respect the board's decisions but also the integrity of that downtown area that we won the approval and the citizens alike. Um because I think it's important to kind of mark the edge of that table. So it kind of reduces anybody from coming in
and really pushing the envelope any further than I already have. Uh you guys have been so kind to listen to me. So I think if I can get the gamble maybe moved on that and a second from someone else, we can get this kind of done because I believe you guys have many or much more larger things to worry about.
So with that being said, I just want to thank everybody for their time and uh I'm curious what our next steps of the procedure would be. Uh, sure. Commissioner Sergeant, you have a comment? >> Thank you. Um, just so you're aware of procedure. >> Yes, sir. >> Uh, Commissioner Deon and I were on the
losing end of that. So, we cannot bring it back up again. >> Okay. >> Um, it would have to be one of the other three commissioners that would have to bring that up for I just want you to understand that that's where we're um that's where it's at now. So, I appreciate you coming out, but that's kind of where we're at. >> That's amazing. That's amazing. I believe Miss Ann Margaret was very kind
enough to explain that to me. Um, so I was just curious like what our process would be afterwards. Would I need to go through the entire process again uh for the redundancy of things we already know or would I be able to get some sort of motion of reading?
>> Um you guys want to bring uh >> Well, how about this though? How about we just have a motion first to go into discussion on this and then um we'll bring up whatever you like. >> No, you couldn't tell. Hold on. >> Yeah, that's true. Um, so I mean do you
want to just how about Well, >> yeah. You know, and why don't you comment on what we can do on this? >> Yes. If you if if you're interested in bringing it forward again, we could maybe do that on a uh next agenda. Okay. That if there's some interest in doing that. >> Yeah,
>> that'd be wonderful. >> If there if Yeah, if the commission is interested in doing >> is there any interest? That would have to be someone from the winning side of that vote. >> Okay. >> Am I correct and Margaret? >> That's correct. And a second. Thank you. >> Okay. >> Is there any interest on bringing that
back from the anyone else here besides uh Commissioner Deon and Commissioner Sergeant? >> We can't. >> Besides you, >> no. >> Anthony, I'm sorry. I'm still I'm still pretty strong that it is a slippery slope, >> right? >> And I don't I don't think that um that
type of business, it belongs in the downtown area. So, I'm sorry. I I won't be bringing it back up. >> Okay. And Anthony, I'm sorry as well. I I kind of feel the same as as Commissioner Tolland. Um >> I I served many years on the main street
board and and that kind of wasn't the >> one of the uses we sought for the downtown area and I served 21 years on the planning board and and we kind of talked about those types of uses in our downtown then as well. >> Understand? >> And they just weren't they weren't um palatable or or compatible. Yeah.
>> Okay. Okay. Yeah. I was just I was just reviewing your question. And you're you're right. You're within your right to do that. And I appreciate you coming and doing that. And I appreciate you going through >> Yeah. >> the the the the process the way it's supposed to be done. >> Right. No, no. Likewise. And thank you so much for just giving me the time here. I just didn't want to do the redundancy of uh I believe it's section
D in 202044 Parington and the previous staff, whomever was on it, I'm not I'm unaware. Um in that section, I believe you can actually have one guest tattoo artist in that space. So I thought it was just a bit redundant to kind of lease a studio to myself. U Mr. mayor was kind enough to give me another
resource uh to visit. However, that resource is not in the best of health. Uh and the overhead is more than double than what I'm already paying now. Um so to have that residency there and and it already being zoned for that cosmetic tattooing, I was just like why not just make a contribution to the code instead
of having the redundancy of leasing a studio to myself for what already exists. >> Well, we appreciate you coming out, Anthony. And like I said, we have to I have to respect the the people and the dies here. So I but thank you for coming out. We appreciate it. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Um next up is Amber Bobc.
>> Amber, there you are. Sorry, my kids sat a little further away today. Uh, good evening, commissioners, staff, and mayor Leslie. My name is Amber Bob, Collins Street. Um, since receiving the judge's recommended order from my case with the St. John's River
Water Management District and Circle K, I've decided it was time to put boots on the ground and take direct action to practice what I've been preaching. I have adopted two park locations along Division Avenue through the city's adopt a park program to show the resident that
residents are ready to build a cleaner, stronger system, one where community members take part in protecting our own environment. My family has scheduled our first cleanup for November 8th from 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. If anyone would like to join us, I hope the city city
will continue supporting residents like me who are willing to turn concern into action. We are the people of this community and true leadership begins with integrity in both our words and our actions. Thank you. >> Thank you, Amber.
[Applause] >> Okay. At this time, I don't have any more cards, so we're going to move on to the approval of the minutes. The minutes for the um October 8, 2025 city commission meeting have been sent to the commission for review and posted to the city's website. Does anyone have any
corrections or changes at this time? Um, I do have one correction I'd like to make. Is that okay? Um, the one correction I'd like to make is that um, Deputy Mayor Tolland, it says in the minutes that she explained it was not the role of government to provide
employment and training for individuals. And I just thought that the correction should be individuals with special needs. And that's all I have. And if that's okay, I just need a motion to second for it. >> Move approval with the correction made by Mayor Leslie.
>> Second. >> All those in favor by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> All right. The eyes have it. Unanimous approval. >> Move on to the consent agenda. Items on the consent agenda are deemed routine and non-controversial. The action
proposed as stated for each item. Unless the city commissioner removes an item from the consent agenda, no discussion on individual items will occur and a single motion will approve all items. Does any member of the commission wish to pull any items from the consent agenda? Uh, yes, Commissioner Deon.
>> I would like to pull seven D and E. I guess they are kind of combined, but >> 7 D and E. Okay. Anyone else in the commission? >> Move approval. Absent items D and E. Second. >> Okay. Any discussion?
Okay. City clerk, please call the vote. >> Commissioner Toland, yes. Commissioner Sergeant, >> yes. >> Commissioner Deon, yes. Commissioner Brley, >> yes. >> Mayor Leslie, >> yes. >> City clerk, can you please uh read resolution number 2025-164?
Resolution number 2025-164, a resolution authorizing a cost of living increase based on the consumer price index pursuant to the amendment and state restatement of agreement for field maintenance services between the city of Orman Beach and Austin Outdoor
LLC DBA Yellowstone Landscape Inc. and setting forth an effective date. This is resolution number 2025-164 read by title only. Do >> I motion for approval? Motion >> second. Discussion. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Deon.
>> So, this one doesn't bother me quite as much as the other one because it's only $15,000. However, the grounds maintenance one is $47,869.31. I understand inflation. I understand you shouldn't be talking about E. >> Oh, yeah. We're not We're on D right now.
>> Just do it for So, okay. Well, then we'll just go back to the total. >> Um, okay. So on D, the cost of or the CPI increases for $15,9741 for the field maintenance. My overall comment is I'm struggling with the CPI
adjustment in total. Um whether it's for one both, I'm struggling with it. >> Um Deputy Bear. >> So you know they're asking for 2.4%. the the average CPI from August 24 to
August 25 is 2.9%. I'm okay with the 2.4% um for this item, but what I would like to see is when I know that we ne renegotiated our um our contract with Yellowstone that I would like to see
that number included in that so it's not like this increase and then CPI. I would like to see that the process changed just a little bit. Um, so that's where I am in with that.
>> So I requested and received data for the past 10 years and we've given them the increase 10 years year-over-year. I'm still personally struggling. >> Commissioner Sergeant, thank you. I'm right there with you, Commissioner
Deon. I don't like that we approve it and then it comes back and they ask for this adjustment a month or two later. Um I'm, you know, as I was driving here tonight and I look in the the medians and I see
weeds and I see that we're paying what we're paying. Um I'm not okay with it. And I'm actually thinking I know we had a workshop on this, but I'm thinking that we really need to consider bidding this out. I I just think the the level of service has gone down. And I've
said it over and over, but you drive out here and you look at the medians, mulch is everywhere in our roadway, washing around out into the waterway. They come for us and ask for $34,000 for more mulch. So, I think this is a time where we might need to uh start looking um
elsewhere. Thank you, Commissioner Riley. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, I guess these are two separate items. >> Um, I'm okay with with um Yellowstone on the athletic fields. Um, there may be some discussion on the on the grounds
maintenance later, but I'm okay with the athletic fields. >> I'm more okay with the athletic fields because I do understand we have done a lot of improvements that are going to take more money. Okay, that one's 15974. I
I'm still struggling with the fact that year over year whenever they ask for we give them whatever they ask for. >> Are we in agreeance on that? >> Um I'm with you on that one cuz I'm looking at the chart sideways. >> Yeah. I can't I don't know how to turn it.
>> I got like do like this. >> I'm not I'm not techy. >> Oh, there we go. Thank you. Thank you. >> There you go. You look at too. >> Put it right there. It's fine. Oh, no. This is for the This one's for E. >> Yeah, that's for E. >> I got >> this. The athletic fields that is
sideways. I'm I'm more okay with that because we've done >> Does Robert want to speak to all the improvements that we have made regarding the fields or >> talk about this item first? >> Yes. >> D we need to talk about first. Yeah. >> So, let's stay on the athletic fields. >> Yeah, we're on the athletic fields. That's why I was asking for Robert Carolyn because he could speak to all of
the improvements we made that maybe necessarily need the 15974 that I'm not seeing. So, Robert Carolyn, parks and recreation director, and I know you guys know this, so I just want to I just want to reiterate the
purpose of the CPI adjustment. So, the CPI is set it's not by it's not set by Yellowstone per se or the contractor. It's set by the consumer price index. >> That is calculated um has absolutely nothing to do with the
contractor themselves um in their current contract. And I know this is somewhat redundant. Most of all of you know this, but I just want to make sure that I I'm I'm I bring this to the table so you at least hear it. Um, in their contract, they have a clause in the
contract that gives them the option to request that as part of the annual contract renewal process. So, um, they've been pretty diligent about that. The purpose of the CPI is there's one purpose for this um and that's put into
the contract and that is to keep a contract that is um in place for long periods of time to meet the market value. So, you're basically expecting um you're hoping that by allowing the CPI
to be approved that the cost for that specific service stays competitive with the market so that if if at any point in time you wanted to take this out to bid such as uh Commissioner Commissioner Sergeant mentioned, you're not going to
get um stuck with a tremendously higher price. So, by not approving this, and and again, it's your it's your prerogative as a commission to do what you choose, but by not approving this, you're you're really you're basically
putting yourself in a situation to where you would essentially over time uh plausibly end up with a contract that you may want to put back out on the street, but your cost for putting it back on the street would be much much higher because you would be way below
the market value. So, it that's essentially the only purpose for the CPI. Um, it's not designed for a mechanism for you guys to save money. It's designed to keep the contract fair and just so they can continue to offer
the exact services they're offering when they bid on it. It's not designed for you to use as a leverage whether they're doing a good job. That's that is a a commission decision or based on the fact that they're not doing a good job. then you put it back out on the street to
find a better contractor. The CPI adjustment is essentially just for the purpose of keeping that contract at market value. >> Deputy mayor. >> So what I was saying, putting the CPI in when we renegotiate would be a silly
thing because you're inflating the the value of the services is what you're trying to say. >> Well, no, not necessarily. in not inflate, but it would be harder to bid it out in the future if the CPI is included in that. >> Um, is that correct? >> Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's correct. I
mean, so we have this in other contracts throughout the city and the the contractors choose not to request it. Other contractors are diligent and know they request it. I mean, as you all know, petroleum has gone through the roof over
the period of a last 13 years, right? Um, this contract relies tremendously on gasoline, petroleum products, fertilizers, those kinds of things. So, this because of that, this contract is it's a little different than things that
don't rely on things that are fluctuating so much based on the consumer pricing index. So, I I'm I'm just giving you information to maybe really think about the decision you're making. Whether you make whatever decision it is is obviously your prerogative.
>> Do we have to do this tonight? I would think you probably should to be sincere. It's a the contract already is in in motion. The sooner you do this, we can start our process of of creating those invoices and the bills and every because it it calculates every single
month. >> Any more questions for Robert? >> Can I ask a question to Robert? >> Uh, no. I'm sorry, sir. >> Mr. Mr. Mayor, what was the reasoning why you would want to put it off? I'm just curious. Is there a a thought process? >> We all kind of like to, you know, learn
a little bit more about it that, you know, maybe we wanted to table it and just, you know, be able to learn more about the CPI. But if you understand it and you're fully ready to go forward, >> I think we understand what the CPI is. It's just the matter of, you know, the constraints that we have trying to be fiscally conservative
worrying about our budget and and talking about less. >> You can offer less. >> We can offer less. >> Yeah, we can. we can do a percentage of. >> Yeah, cuz I mean I mean we we the numbers have been all over the place, but I guess that's because the the uh CPIs were >> so in regards to the ball fields, we've
done a lot of recent upgrades to that. Okay, so that's something that we do want to keep in mind. Then we move on to E. That one's going to be a different conversation, >> but remember it's not the quality of the work. It's not the work. It's it's their cost to do the job. Like gasoline costs
more money. And so they're just trying to um send that cost back to what it the city. >> Well, we've also added facilities as well since the contract began. >> Correct. So you you're you're you can't confuse the two things. It's
I get what it is. Um but you're right. We have the option if we think 2.4 is too much, we have the option of going lower if we think that that's fair. and hopefully that won't um compromise the contract.
>> Is there anybody interested in talking about that? I have not conversation about lowering the the uh rate. >> Commissioner Dean, do you have a number in mind or a percentage that you're comfortable with? I know where I'm at. I just didn't know if you had a a percent
that you've thought about. >> Oh my gosh. Even when you turn it sideways, it turns again. I'd probably say 2%. On this one, no. Actually, on the field maintenance, I'm probably okay. It's the next one that I'd like to discuss that we can't discuss yet until we move on.
>> All right. >> So, 2% or no, no change. >> I'm not change. I'm not worried about the ball maintenance, the ball fields maintenance one. >> I needed to have the conversation regarding my uncomfortableness. >> So, do we have a motion already on the floor for this? We do. We have a motion and a second. >> So, >> call the vote.
>> I'm good with the 2.4 for D. >> Okay. >> If we're all done with that, I can >> call the vote for D. That's fine. >> Um, >> Commissioner Riley, anything else you want to add? Sergeant, >> no. Before I call the vote. >> Okay. City clerk, please call the vote. >> Commissioner Sergeant,
>> no. >> Commissioner Deon, >> yes. Commissioner Brileley, >> yes. >> Commissioner Toland, yes. Mayor Leslie. >> Yes. Okay. Now, we're going to move on to E. Uh, city clerk, can you please read
resolution number 2025-165? >> Yes. Resolution number 2025-165, a resolution authorizing a cost of living increase based on the consumer price index pursuant to the grounds maintenance services agreement between
the city of Orman Beach and Austin Outdoor LLC, DBA, Yellowstone Landscape, Inc., and setting forth an effective date. This is resolution number 2025-165 read by title only. >> Do I have a motion for approval? >> So moved. >> Second.
>> Okay. Discussion. Like to open it up. >> Yep. Commissioner Sergeant. >> Go ahead. Commissioner I think >> I know where I stand on this. >> Okay. I think you said you want to say though some things about this one, right, Commissioner Dean? >> It's the exact same conversation really. It's that I'm not comfortable with
$47,869.31 for CPI increase. >> Do you have a compromise? Are you are you a hard no? >> And maybe maybe we should listen to Commissioner Bryley. CFP's got a thought as well. Commissioner Brown,
>> my thought on this would you know 2.3 you're cutting a half percent off. Half a percent. >> Is there any interest in a half percent? >> I'd like to cut more off that.
>> Is this the one you were thinking? Two. >> 2%. That's where I was at. Two. >> 2%. >> Sergeant, >> I would be okay with two. >> Got it. Okay. >> No compromise. Um >> I would be okay with 2%. I think that's
reasonable. >> I'd also be open to looking at other options going forward. >> Yeah, >> I Joyce can concur. I send her emails at least once a month on my
lack of uh how do I word this? Um satisfaction with the corridors of our community looking the way that they do at least probably once a month. That's where I'm at. >> Uh, sure. Commissioner, since I got
elected two and a half years ago, I've been pulling this and discussing it and I just haven't seen any improvement and I I understand that it's an increase for the cost of doing business, but
um, when I still see mulch washing away, I I just think it's it's maybe time. Can we put qualifiers on it like the mulch problem? I I don't know. I >> No.
>> No. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Okay. So, if 2% is what we're thinking then I think >> the math >> um Commissioner Bry, did you make the first motion? >> Who who made the motion? >> Deputy mayor. >> Deputy Mayor, you made the motion. Do
you want to amend your motion to 2%. >> Sure. >> Sure. Kristen, uh do you want to do the math first? I I need to know what the what I'm doing the math based on. >> Okay. >> I need the number that I'm doing. >> Somebody in staff could help us with that >> the math. Do we need the math right now?
>> Yeah, we can't. So, I would I would need to know. So, just let's say 2% is where I'm comfortable at. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, I will make the motion with the at to amend the motion to reflect 2% CPI increase for E. Second.
>> Okay. Any other further discussion? Seeing none, city clerk, please call the vote. >> Commissioner Deon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Brileley, >> yes. >> Commissioner Taland, >> yes. Commissioner Sergeant, >> no. >> Mayor Leslie, >> yes.
>> Uh, does do any of the commissioners wish to comment anything on the consent agenda items at this time before we move on? No. Okay. >> No. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. >> Okay. I'll now open the public hearings. Um, city clerk, please read the legal
title for 8A. >> Resolution number 2025-166, a resolution of the city commission of the city of Orman Beach, Florida, providing consent to Orman Beach Arts District, Inc. for the public display of Seward Johnson sculptures within the
downtown Overlay district, providing for conditions providing for execution of a hold, harmless, and indemnity agreement in favor of the city, and setting forth an effective date. This is resolution number 2025-166 read by title only.
>> Move approval. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second. >> Oh, okay. Commissioner Brley, I think you got there first, right? Okay. Um, was Steven Spreaker here? Why don't you come up real quick and just talk on the item for a second?
>> Good evening. Steven Spreaker, plan director with the city. This is a request um based on our public art ordinance. public art ordinances only in our downtown redevelopment area. Uh last year was the first year of a wildly successful sculpture tour. This year
there are 12 sites identified. Um these are the sculptures that the art district board is seeking to bring. There's a combination of city sponsorship, main street sponsorship, and then private property sponsorship. Um the items did go to the Orman Art District board based
on the criteria within the code of ordinances. They did recommend approval. staff has recommended approval. The applicant is here. Are there any questions? >> Any questions for Stephen? >> No. Thank you, Stephen. >> Thank you. >> Um before I do have a card here, so I'm
going to call up um Judith Stein. >> Hi. Um Judy Stein. I'm vice president of the Orman Beach Arts District. Maybe I can just tell you a little bit about the sculpture tour that we had um last year and this year. Uh we sponsored an exhibit of artist Seard Johnson's
life-size, lifelike, and hyperrealistic sculptures from November 2024 to May of this year. The sculptures featured everyday people doing everyday things. We join uh other cities around the
country and cities internationally in featuring Seward Johnson's sculptures. He's just worldrenowned. And uh as Steven said, the sculptures were wildly successful. We drew thousands of residents and visitors to the area to see the sculptures. We
generated significant mass media and online attention to them. We distributed over 6,000 hard copies of this little brochure and uh had more than 10,000 webpage views of the brochure. We did a
lot of uh social media and one of the postings on Facebook got over 20,000 uh views. We just um some comments from visitors uh they were speechless, breathtaking, astonishing. Thank you for bringing this
wonderful tour to our city. Um, the sculptures foster a sense of community and highlight the benefits of public art. One person said, "We'll be staying overnight to visit Orman Beach to see the sculptures, and they make our city so interesting."
So, because of all that, we're doing it again. Uh, we're planning another tour from January to June next year. We have sponsorship for another 12 Seward Johnson sculptures, different ones, and equally fabulous.
Several of the previous sponsors are coming forward again, including Granada Plaza. Last time they sponsored two, this time they're sponsoring three. Um, Chris and Charlie Liecker, Steven Carol Farmer, Orman Beach Main Street, the
Orman Memorial Art Museum, and the city of Orman Beach. Of course, we have some new sponsors this time, including Bill Jones, and Sea Coast Bank. And the arts district is also sponsoring a sculpture. Each sponsor receives recognition through signage, marketing materials,
invitations to events and and other activities. And tonight, we're simply requesting permission to place some of the sculptures on city property. The city is sponsoring two sculptures as they did for the previous tour. As a previous sponsor, they were offered a discount on
the price and paid $8,000 to to sponsor two sculptures for six months. In addition to the city sponsorship, we've raised another $41,000 from private sponsors. This money covers the rental cost of the sculptures,
insurance, and costs incurred for physically placing the statues into position. They weigh 4 to600 pounds each, so no small feat. Uh printing, publicity, and marketing. Some of these items were also sponsored during the last tour, and we hope that they will be
again. And I just want you to know how much we appreciate the support of the commission and the assistance and participation of the city staff for this project. We couldn't have done it without you. Thank you. >> Thank you, Judith.
Does anybody uh have any other questions for planning director or the applicant? Oh >> no, Mr. Mayor, I just I'm have just comments. >> Okay. Yeah, go ahead. Comment away. >> Um Judy, first of all, congratulations again on your ACE award. Well deserved. >> Thank you.
>> Um I am in support of voting for the funding for the Seawward statues. Um I think it's my notes reflect a lot of the things you've already pointed out. Um ecoourism.
These are the types of things that bring people it brings awareness. It brought awareness to Orman Beach. We were featured on the local news with the statues. Um, not only does it bring awareness to Orange Beach, it brings activity to our downtown.
And I think by the testaments that you read, emails and phone calls that I got that said, "Hey, these statues are really cool. Can you bring them back next year?" And I said, "Well, let's just see what happens." Um, but I think it's great and uh you all do a great
job. So, thank you, >> Deputy Mayor. >> Yeah, thank you, Commissioner Bryley. You said a lot of the same things I would say. Judy, thank you for that presentation. Um, the art district is a sister of Main
Street, right? And that's something we support. And we, if you remember, we have done a whole master plan, a whole arts master plan and put funding into it. Um, other than what you just said, I think this is a perfect example of
public private partnerships and I think that's how you encourage your residents to live when they have a little bit of ownership. Um, it's a lot more meaningful. So, thank you for doing a great job and I would be in support of it as well.
>> Commissioner Sergeant, thank you, Mr. Mayor, and thank you uh for coming. I will vote yes for this tonight. I supported these uh statues last time. I will support them this time, but in the future, I think we need to look at alternative funding sources. Um I I'm
just $8,000. I know it's coming out of the CRA money. um just in a time where I think we need to pull back a little bit and maybe there's more private funding for these, but I'm
not willing at the last minute to pull the funding like what happened at the the county a couple weeks ago. Um but I do think in the future I will be looking at alternative and if we have to raise money, um I'm willing to participate in
that. But very much like the before I was elected, the Mary McCloud bthoon, you know, we contributed $25,000 to a statue that sits at the bottom of the Daytona Beach
in Daytona Beach at the Main Street um bridge. And I think Mary Mloud Bthoon would be appalled that we spent that kind of money when that money could have gone to enrich a little boy or girl's education. And I said that publicly before I was elected. Um, but I will be
voting for this tonight and in the future I will help all I can to find funding sources for these programs. My family and I enjoyed the last ones. I'm sure we'll enjoy these ones. I just think we need to find alternative funding sources. Thank you. Judy, thanks for coming out. I know you
look familiar. Gave me an award not too long ago. Um, but I'm happy to see the uh uh the um statues coming back. They were actually really pretty cool. One of them actually caught me off guard. I thought it was a real person. I'm sure it'll happen to a lot of people. Um, but I will echo Commissioner Sergeant on
this saying that I think that outside uh funding for this is possible. I mean, there's probably a lot of people that would support that and so I think that you you'll have no problem finding that. Um, but I will support it this time around. Um, but it's good to see it back though. It's really cool. Uh, any other
comments? No. Seeing none, we do have a motion. Oh, Commissioner Deon, >> I would just like to echo um you two. I would love to see some sort of fundraising or alternative private donors uh for the arts. And I know it is from the CRA, but I I definitely do
concur that. Um, but I will be voting yes for this tonight. >> Thank you. Uh, city clerk, please call the vote. >> Commissioner Riley, >> yes. >> Commissioner Toland, >> yes. Commissioner Sergeant, >> yes. >> Commissioner Deon, yes. Mayor Leslie,
>> yes. I will now close the public hearings and we're going to move on to uh staff and commission report, suggestions, request, starting with the city manager, Joyce Shanahan. >> Uh, thank you, Mr. Mayor, a couple of uh
updates. Um on November 4th, uh we're going to have our first self-doge workshop. I believe we start with the commission to get some direction and then we'll be working with the finance committee to go through that process. Uh you have your regular commission meeting
on November 18th and November 4th as well. Let's see. Valuchia County will be conducting a household hazardous waste drop off day this Friday, October 24th at 8 a.m. to 12 noon at the public works complex at 501 North Orchard Street. Uh,
as you can expect, um, co-ed youth basketball is in full swing. You can register online. So, it's, um, $87 for residents and $130 for non-residents. The EDC is hosting not so spooky
spiders. I don't know if that's a real thing or not. Not for me. Anyway, on Saturday, October 25th, from 10:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m., children ages 5 to 11 are invited to learn more about what makes spiders different from insects. Costumes are encouraged.
Um, free movies on the Halifax on October 24th at the Caseman's featuring Beetlejuice at 7:00 p.m. That's a great movie. Uh, Reality Pros sponsors this event every year and they will be presenting their annual community appreciation night trunk or treat.
Hugely popular. We hope we have good weather for that. That begins at 6:00 p.m. on Friday, October 24th at Rockefeller Gardens Lawn. For more information, contacts Parks and Recreation. The Veterans Day lunch on Thursday, November 6th at 12:00 p.m. at
the Orman Beach Senior Center. Uh veterans tickets are free and may purchase guest tickets for $7. For more information, contact Park. Um included in your information are shelters, first step shelter statistics.
Easy for me to say. And um that I think uh wraps up. Um that's all I have unless you have some questions for me. >> Any questions for Joyce? No. Thank you, Joyce. Um, assistant city manager Claire. >> Uh, nothing tonight. Thank you.
>> City attorney. >> No. Thank you. >> Okay. This evening will begin with Deputy Mayor Commissioner Toland. >> All right. Thank you, Mayor. Um, just as a reminder, October is designated National Pedestrian Safety Month.
um 70 I found this statistic not surprising that 77% of our of fatalities nationwide occur in the dark and of course this is Halloween month. So I just encourage everybody to be very safe when all the children are out
trick-or-treating. Um I do want to you know when as commissioners up here we are part of different groups and different committees. So, I wanted to share with you what I was doing with the Florida Liga City. Um, I'm on the policy
committee of utilities, national um natural resources, and public works. We had a round two and what what we do, this is just an example what commissioners do um that aren't a cost to the taxpayer. Everybody thinks, you
know, everything we do is costing you. This is on our own dime. Um, so this these policies, the whole goal is to be able to come up with two policies that will go to Tallahassee during our legislative
action days. Um, the group I belong to, uh, we had six proposals and the top two were the same two from last year and it was the enterprise fund transfers and extratorial searchcharge costs. And both
of these um are posed to support local authority. So um a vote is always taken and the top two get sent on to the next round. But I what I wanted to share with you is Orman Beach presented a proposal
this time. Um last year I did not I was a newbie. This year we proposed a storm water facility management and accountability proposal and we came in third. And so from what I understand and so what that means is in um I'm sorry
I'm kind of talking all over the place. the storm water mitigation committee meeting that I go to, one of the biggest obstacles we have to help prevent flooding in a municipality is sometimes defunct HOAs.
And as a municipality, you cannot go in there and take care of the ponds, the swailes, things like that. So flooding occurs and then obviously it's a bigger cost. So um with uh Mr. Finley's research and help. He he put together
this. I think it was just him. I don't know who else was, but anyway, there was a proposal that I was able to submit. And coming in third usually means in the next year or so that you probably will be chosen to move up to Tallahassee. So, it's just, you know, first of all, kudos
to our city. Um, kudos for us trying to help with flooding in mitigation. So, I just thought it was important that I share that with you. Um, next topic, state of the city. I just want to thank the collaboration between
the chamber and this and the city staff. Um, it was a it was a really nice uh presentation and again congratulations Judy, you're here. Welld deserved. um the youth leadership chamber
Harold, you were not here and this was your baby and I just want to say thank you for that initiative and I'm sure all of us will um say the same thing for lifting up our youth. We really missed you. >> I appreciate the kudos. Unfortunately, I
can't take the credit for that one because mine was the the citizen academy. >> Oh well, okay. Well, >> but thank you. Thank you to whoever's idea was for the um for the youth >> part of the chamber. But yeah. >> Yeah, it was it was great. Anytime we can educate either youth or adults in
how the city works is always a win for for everyone. And then of course um we all enjoyed the taste of Orman. That was a great Main Street event until the rain came. But it was still a lot of fun. And um I want to thank staff for addressing
um for start first addressing the parking lot issues up at the airport fields and replacing lights. I'm sure you'll probably hear that from other other folks up here. And just as an announcement, I'm not going to go into great details now, but um there's a
group of citizens headed by Doug Thomas who's in the audience that has been pushing a um event called Founders Day. So, it has been worked on. There's a good group that's working on this. It's the date is already established as April
25th, Saturday, 2026. And we're we're doing Founders Day in collaboration with other businesses, with city, our fire, our police, um our historic society, and it's all in
benefit of PAL. Um, so you'll get more details later, but it anybody that is interested in helping us out, um, please see Doug or myself and we'll be happy to to point you in the right direction. And with that, I want to say good night. Thank you.
>> Good night. Uh, Commissioner Sergeant. >> Thank you. Um, mine will be a lot longer than that, so bear with me. State of the city was great. I I'll echo that. I would like us to look potentially at maybe doing something at the PAC
uh where we showed the video for our residents that can't make it, you know, maybe on a weekday during lunch, but maybe we could offer something um just at the PAC. I know we've talked about that in the past. I I just think
it's something we should look out for our residents. Um flooding on Airport Road. Sean, thank you for meeting me out there yesterday on Sunday. After the taste of Orman, I drove out by the airport because it was pouring rain. I wanted to see something and there was probably three to six inches of water
covering the road. So, it was great that Sean could meet me out there and kind of see what I was talking about. And I learned that that area is actually a title area. So, a lot of the times the water doesn't drain off properly. And um hopefully the county can help correct
that. Uh, Veterans Day, uh, the USO celebration will be held at the Orman Art Museum and Gardens, >> excuse me, >> on Tuesday, November 11th from 11:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. There will be a
keynote speaker there who will be uh, Travis Sergeant, Sergeant Sergeant from the United States Marine Corps. So, I'm looking forward to that. Uh, we already talked about Florida City Week SB 180. This has been something that's been
in the news. Several cities have joined the lawsuit. We have one city in Valuchia County that just got out of the lawsuit. And as I've stated before, I don't think we should join a lawsuit. I think you get action through advocacy. I think
that the uh Tallahassee has heard loud and clear. And when I was at my committee last Tuesday, I learned that on actually it was the 16th, two bills were filed
to help uh resolve some of the issues that people had with SB180. And those bills were SB 218. It's called the land use regulations. Um, and it was filed by Senator Gates
and I I think with his leadership in Tallahassee and support that these bills have a real good chance of moving forward. There was also the other um kind of a companion bill with it was SB27 which is also the land use regulations
and you can go online and look at those but it it helps define the impact to local governments. It adds a new definition to impacted local governments. And I won't go through the whole list, but this I think just is something that I'm glad that this
commission didn't decide to participate in a lawsuit when you can get more accomplished through advocacy. Um, so those are and again those are SB28 and SB27. Um,
this is going to be a long one. For as long as I've can remember, the city has used Demandstar for the procurement of our bids. Having served in this seat for the past two and a half years, I feel the city is not getting the most and best qualified
responses. After much research, I thought I would share with everyone tonight a company to replace Demandar. The best part is it's free. The company is called Central Bidding and I have handouts for the commission.
Plus, if anyone in the audience would like a copy, I'm happy to um Oh, I I'm happy to email this or the city clerk can email this to y'all as well. Um, and I just want to highlight a few things. There's nothing I I just think it would be important for us to y'all to review
this information so that when we have our Doge workshop, this is a potential for us to um have an option to really start saving money, I think. And just I'll I'll give you a brief highlight. uh central bidding
works closely with political subdivisions as well as the vendor community to assure both realize the significant advantages and savings through the use of electronic bidding. Central bidding has the largest
um the largest um stockpile if you will of of public bids available for public agencies to review and assist in writing bids. So, if we have a bid that wants to go out and we don't want to write it or
we want something that's already kind of pre-done, we can grab one from a Pensacola or other municipality and just tweak it for the wording that we want. So, once again, creates some efficiencies. Uh they offer vendor training, vendor success, so they really help grow small
businesses in your area. Um it increase increases bids. They work with the small and disadvantaged business enterprise assistants. Um, and it it builds public trust through
this process. You know, I go back to Bailey River Bridge. We put it out for bid, 800 ft roof, and it came in at like what, $170,000 to redo, and we had one person that responded to it from South Florida. And
I know it was a cedar shank roof and I know that it's all these special things, but I called a local contract and said he could do it for 40 grand and have 20% profit into it. So, I think that this is just something that I really think that we all need to look
at. You know, Demand Star new programs I think can can help us be more efficient. Um, so if y'all want to review that and then um >> when will we have a chance to discuss
this? Would it be like in our >> the Doge workshop? >> Okay. Thank you. >> That's I just think that y'all can have enough time to digest it and then we can can go go forward. >> Um, tomorrow I will be principal of the day at Timmoke Elementary.
>> Go Braves. That's where I went to elementary school. So, it's kind of interesting. Then I'm going back there. New building, but uh same location. I don't know if the kids still ride their bikes like they used to. Like I remember riding my bike there. I don't think the bike rack's there anymore. Um I also
spoke to someone today that is a uh runs a airline small um service, not even a net jets, but small. and she has a good contact and I don't know if staff maybe I'll get with staff on this but to do a
noise abatement procedure and this person has done it for large larger airports like Atlanta Hartsfield airport um and I just think with all the noise complaints that we get with our
airport that we can maybe just update and maybe have a phone call um and I'll get with staff just to see if that's something they want to entertain Um, Biketoberfest, there were no issues associated with the No Kings protest. Thankfully, at the Granada Bridge, there
were 192 traffic stops, 90 citations, six criminal citations, 209 parking citations, 12 12 crashes reported, all with non-injuries, and two felony arrest. So,
I think that kudos to our all of our law enforcement officers and thank you. Can we get an update on Fortunado Park? Is that out for bid? Um, Fortunado.
Who wants to take it? >> The pier. >> The pier. Sean, >> the pier. I'll have to I'll can I get to I don't have one right now, but I'll be glad to look into it and find out with it. >> Thank you, Sean. Um,
let me see. That's that that noise by Fest. I'm almost done. Um, >> you got one minute. >> I will end with this as I like to most evenings. Um, with the following by Robert Williams who said, "Everyone you
meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about. Be kind always. You know, on average, we lose 17.6 veterans a day to suicide. So, I ask you to call your friends and family and check in with that. Good
night. >> Thank you, Commissioner Sergeant, Commissioner Deon. >> Thank you. I think the two of you spoke enough for all of us, so I'm going to keep it short tonight. Um, we've attended a lot of events recently. I'm not going to go into detail of all of them, but um state of the city
phenomenal event as usual. Um I'm looking forward to the realy pros event on Friday night. I did remember I wrote it down. It's in my calendar. Uh we will be judging the costume contest at 7 o'clock for anyone who would like to attend. It is free. Um and tomorrow I am
principal for a day at Pathways. So pray for these children. I know. And with that, have a great night. Thank you, Commissioner Deon. Commissioner Bryley. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um,
Commissioner Talin, I do want to just kind of piggyback on uh your your point with the the Florida League of Cities, the the committee you serve on, the defunct HOAs. Certainly a problem in in in my zone, and Sean and I have talked about this many times. Woodrove is
defunct defunct HOA. In fact, that HOA fell apart before the last house was built. So, they've got, you know, they've got ditches through that subdivision that don't belong to the city, and some people have covered over them, maybe with permits, maybe without
permits. Um, so also the Sawtooth uh HOA is is apparently is a defunct HOA, and that's a problem with the folks over in in Brook um Brookside next to elementary school. So, thank you for for bringing that up. Hopefully, we can see some
movement on that. Um, thank you for thank you Commissioner Deon for for mentioning uh the the family appreciation night at Rockefeller Gardens. 7 o'clock is the the costume contest and we're all asked to judge. So, if you can please be there. Um, and
I will end with um I know Amber Bob's in the house and I have discussed with Mr. Finley the uh the the idea of installing some deer crossing signs on division near the EDC. So we will uh we'll talk
more about that. And with that, Mr. Mayor, I'll say good night. Thank you. Good night. Before I adjourn, I'd like to thank our city staff, the Orin Beach Chamber of Commerce for ongoing organizing a wonderful state of the city event. I'd like to also congratulate all this
year's mayor's ACE award recipients. Your dedication and service to our community do not go unnoticed. Thank you for everything you do to make Orin Beach a better place for all. I also want to express my sincere appreciation to our police department, fire department, and all city staff for
their exceptional work during this year's Btoberfest. With approximately 100,000 visitors coming into the area over a very short period, it is no easy task to maintain order and safety. Your professionalism, coordination, and dedication ensured another successful event, and we are
truly grateful. I'd like to thank everyone who helped organize and support this year's Taste of Orand. It was a tremendous success and a great showcase of the culinary talent and community spirit that make Orman Beach such a special place. I look forward to seeing this wonderful event return next year.
In addition, I would like to extend a very happy, though now belated, 100th birthday to World War II veteran, Sergeant John Jakovich. His service and sacrifice represents the best of the greatest generation, and we are deeply thankful for his role in protecting the freedoms we cherish as Americans. I also
had the privilege of participating in White Cane awareness day where I took part in a guided blindfolded street crossing. It was a truly humbling and enlightening experience that gave me a greater appreciation for the challenges faced by those who are blind or visually
impaired and for the importance of accessibility and inclusion in our community. Finally, as we approach Halloween, I want to wish everyone a safe and enjoyable evening of festivities that will be coming up. And as my mother used to say, don't eat too
much candy. Thank you everyone. Good night. This meeting is adjourned.