by the green dot and hit the two line two vertical lines over there. I'm trying. It's awful. I'm going to try this. I need a piece of paper. Okay, I got it. It's
Good evening. This is our monthly meeting, council meeting. It's May 20th, 2025. So with that, um Rachel, if you'll call the role, members, mayor, hi.
Uh councelor Pendergrass. Hi. Councelor Phillips here. Councelor Spring here. Councelor Riceorfer here. Engineer Joel Palin. Uh, city attorney.
He's on there. Mike's on the line. Do I hit approve on this? Yeah, just apply it to permissions of all future and approve it. Thank you. And Mike is here. Uh, Jason is not. Okay.
All right. Here. So, with that, we have our approval of the agenda. I have several items to add to the agenda, if there's any additional ones. Um let's start with um parks and
trails under I which is on page 304 at the bottom to add three items. One is a new community member under
a birth group. Second item is um funding towards parks path engineering for Riverwood Hills Park Trail. The recommendation these are all recommendations from the
parks and trails committee and oral park. So Riverwood Park and the last item is a painting of pickle ball lines for the River Park tennis courts. three items under parks and
trails under K economic development on the same page three or four after the two resolutions then there's a motion the recommendation a motion to approve the branding contract with Tulip Tree
Marketing be a triple I and then Um, under Roman rule 7, which is at the top of page four. Oh, it's new business. I'm sorry. We'll put it
under a legal conflict request. The gold rush crossing for we do that under I haven't seen I haven't seen any business either. Let's you have legal services. You want to put
it underneath at the top of page two. Top of page 204. Is that what it says? Legal services. Yes. Already there. Update to add approval of a complex document crossing. That's be two eyes.
Maybe two eyes. A single eye. It's just a one day one. Yeah, that's it. Just a one. Yeah, it's already on there. Well, you can put two, but one on page three under fire department. We want to
add a double I. This is a recognition gift of $800. Explain that. Okay. And the last item is under PN Z on page 204 at the
bottom number. No, let's let's uh make it know the top of page three or four triple I after the resolution for the hot split to ask for a WSB update schedule questions like
that getting towards the end. [Music] So I've got a I think that's all I have. Okay. I've got a couple things uh we'll do since you did a double I under fire
department an update on H on page three. Yours must be triple I do triple I okay and that's going to be the page that I gave out on the grants that I gave everybody. Okay. What's that again? That' be on page
three under H, which is fire department. Okay. And then I just had let's put uh triple I and that's going to be the two grants that I gave you that handout that there was on that.
Okay. And then uh under J. Okay. on page three. Okay, it will be a double I under first responders and that's going to be the information that I gave you in a packet
for uh the situation with the Oronokco Township. This is call stuff. Yeah, call information. We'll call it and then I like to put an
N. Okay, that we missed which would be at the bottom of either page three or the top of page four, however you want to do it. Um, and it would be unfinished business that we didn't have for that group that normally is there for unfinished business.
It wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't. N was not there. So I put an N. Well, it would have to be at the end of just above adjournment because all this stuff on the back page is under M also. Okay. Well, then I can put it under
number eight or it have to be have to be number wherever what we want to do with it. So it's unfinished business. That should Well, I think we should always have that in there. Okay. Because we had the River Park drain field that we talked about last month.
Okay, just to keep Let me just make sure unfinished business. Unfinished business. So there is a page report. See, mine mine doesn't have that. So that's why I didn't anyway.
You don't have it either, do you? Okay. I didn't think. So anyway, it's uh the River Park drain field. Okay. And then I also had Mary Nash property. No, I well we we talked about under PNZ,
but I had it as under unfinished business. That need to go up to legal services. It could be under legal, but I don't know if we want to put it there, but CMS can't do anything more. So I don't know how we want to do it. If we need money for it, then I put it up. Okay. We can
put under legal go that direction. That's fine. If if we need to if he's not prepared to speak on it. Well, I think it's something we got to keep going and bring that up because it's been posted and they don't stop. So,
so leave it where I'm legal or unfinished. You want to do it as legal? I'll go. No, I'm not saying legal. I'm saying unpunished. I think basically it's unfinished business. Is Mike ready to talk about it? If Mike has information over there, I mean, he knows the property well.
I mean, if he's ready, we could put it under legal. If not, we'll just keep it in the just leaves unfinished business because that's basically what it is. Something hasn't completed. Well, you got a lucky one. You got all this stuff. I didn't get that. Oh, is
that all of them? Yeah. And then I have one and I think we can put it under uh petition request communication. So B is under that. It's either at the bottom of page one or the top of page two and
it's uh we got a couple alliance club members here to give us update on Fourth of July and how we can potentially help them in the future. And petitions under uh it says requests and communications, right? So
I think B B under Yeah. petitions. Request communications. Stage two right at the bottom. Right at the bottom after the community room. So this
is fireworks for fireworks. Yeah. just update and kind of a how we can work together in the future where they foresee things and we'll just have a discussion. Well, I'm assuming everybody took good
notes. Got it. I think I can repeat all the other handouts for just FYI. Yeah, we'll we'll worry about that one. That one's an FYI. I had a couple of stuff handed to
be talked about. This is going to be under the legal part. Okay. That one is, but this one is we put that in a just FYI. I see none. Okay. So, um, all in favor of the agenda as amended, signify or I make a
motion we approve the agenda. I second it. Very discussed. I second. All in favor? Signify by saying I. I. Okay. Public comment. City council welcomes and encourages participation from community
members. Please keep in mind that your comments must be city business and must adhere to data privacy rules. No employees names may be used. We do not expect action from the council this evening regarding your expectction from the council this
evening regarding your concerns to address the city council during the public forum. Please step up to the podium, state your name and address and fill out a white form that's there on the panel with your name and address. Speakers will be recognized only once
and you will be timed. Begin speaking when the green card is raised by Rachel. Yellow card indicates you have 30 seconds left and the red card indicates you have reached your 3m minute limit and must stop. So the public forum will open at
6:40 and with that we would like to speak for please come forward. Thank you. Hi, I'm Johan Senberg, 1354 Riverwood Court Southwest. I'm the training officer for both the Orno Fire Department and the first responders. I'm here tonight to share my disappointment
with the city regarding their relationship with the Orno Township and the discontinuation of medical services via the Orno first responders in the township. Probably don't need to tell everyone this, but a 911 medical emergency call is a sprint. We need to get to the patient as fast and as safe as possible.
Minutes and seconds count. The longer it takes to render care, the less of a chance they have to come back from the incident and live a life like they were accustomed to living. Also, the longer it takes, patient survivability goes down. In EMS, we have something called the golden hour. This is the time from
which a patient is injured to the time they are in the operating room. If we can get them there within this golden hour, we get better outcomes. Of's average response time in the township in 2023 was 14 minutes 26 seconds. Pine Island Fire's average response time in
the township in 2023 was 17 minutes 59 seconds. Minutes count. Seconds count. My mom had a brain aneurysm a year and a half ago. It was 1 centimeter. Most aneurysms are 1 to 2 millime. From onset to O was 44 minutes for her. This was
because my wife and I were there to render care in 3 minutes. Redwing fire paramedics were on scene in under 10. And she was on a helicopter to St. Mary's 20 minutes later. She made a full recovery. No deficits. This is because of the care she received and all that was done within the golden
hour. I believe the manner in which the city worked with the township was not professional and negotiations were not done in good faith. OFR officers were not allowed to be involved in these talks per the city administrator. We are the experts in this field. We have the background and the relationship with the
township board and the residents of the township. In the end, the township was sent a bill for twice as much, $30,000, as was the bill for OFR service in 2024 without negotiation. Information was requested from the city administrator for different data points and were not
provided to the township board. This rightfully upset the township board and they voted to discontinue our contract effective July 1st. This was not communicated to the Orno City Council, nor to the director of OFR. In closing, the city did not do
what they're supposed to do, protect the lives of residents. Response times will suffer and people will suffer and potentially die. Thanks, Else. Hello, I am Jane Schulty Whiting. Um,
1376 Riverwood Court Southwest. I am a nurse at Mayo Clinic and I'm also a volunteer EMT with the Oronco first responders. By removing the Oronoko first responders from our township is a
huge disservice to our community members. The people residing in the township and as council members should be fully aware time is essential for certain medical calls. Time is tissue and time is brain are terms we use in the medical field that emphasizes that
medical events such as heart attacks and strokes require immediate treatment to minimize tissue damage. Delaying treatment means vital tissues which are our heart and our brain are not receiving oxygen which which can lead to permanent damage. Furthermore, out of hospital
cardiac arrests have a survival rate of around 10%. Early CPR and early defibrillation from our AEDs significantly improve improves the patients chance of survival. Additionally, according to the American Heart Association, EMS response times
are also associated with higher chance of survival. I ask you to consider how detrimental removing oronoo first responders can be to the residents of the township. If you have a loved one living within the township, I guarantee you would want the fastest
time. Thank you. Good evening. Uh my name is Elizabeth Amonson. I grew up on 637 Zumbro Hills Drive Northwest. Um I've been a part of the first responders for the better part
of three years. I'm an EMT. Uh but twothirds of my family in this area reside in the township. So, a little bit of a connection for me that's still kind of a a fresh um thing is that my grandfather actually was on the First
Avenue loop right off of Zumbra Hills drives Tilly's area. Um and he was what we would affectionately call a frequent flyer. Uh he had serious medical and trauma emergencies quite often. He was a
bit of a stinker. Um, and these people were a lot of the reason that I joined the first responders because I saw the care that they gave my grandfather. Um, last summer I had the privilege of responding with them to the last call
that we would have at his house. Um, it was that night that we found out he had brain cancer and he died a little bit later. I saw the care that they gave him. But the coolest thing was I knew that that care extends to everybody. They treated
everyone like they treated my family who I loved. Uh those minutes counted for us. Uh we treat people with respect and honor. Um this is a difficult decision for me to accept because uh this is personal for me, right? There's a
connection to the township. I have a lot of family members who are aging who reside in the township and I know that their care is now beyond my grasp. That's a difficult reality for me and I also struggle tremendously e ethically. I value communication deeply and I think
that that's extremely important that the people who are most affected be most involved in the decisions that are made regarding them. Uh so I would ask in the future that ethical responsibility be considered that communication be
prioritized that our officers and residents of the township when I spoke to family members in the township they had no idea about this situation and they were dismayed to know that the people they trust most in their care are very likely not going to be a part of it for quite some time. Uh, so I would ask
that in the future that communication be prioritized, that ethical decision-making be prioritized, that our officers are included in decisions and township residents are included in decisions as well. That's a little bit of my own personal story, my own personal connection, and I thank you for
letting me have some time tonight. Thank you. I'm Kathleen Brandt Rucker at 1354 Riverwood Court Southwest in Ornipo and I've lived in the area over 25 years. I've lived in the township. I served and helped in the township. I've
lived in Pine Island and I currently have lived for the last couple years in the city of Oronokco. And I'm here today as a volunteer first responder. I have been on the first responders for a couple years. And with that background in all those areas, I've
had the opportunity to see impactful, effective government and communication. It's best when it's small, invisible, functional. And that is not currently the situation. There's been a stark lack of
transparency and a breakdown in communication between the township and the city, culminating with the potential endangerment of local residents. We take protecting people's health seriously and so it's it's very upsetting to us. Oralo first responders
will continue our outstanding coverage to the city residents of Oronoko. We're not going away. We're still going to be here. When they call 911, we will be here. But effective July 1st, we will no longer be allowed to successfully
continuing to respond to 911 calls in the township as we do today. We had no notification. Residents have no notification. I'm still hearing from people I know in the township that had no idea and have no idea this is going on. As council members, you are the
elected officials that represent us. You are the head of our city. You are responsible for all the actions that we take on the city side. I ask you now to lead. Please determine how our city was instructed to
start a conversation with the township ended up in a collapse of communication leading to this terrible outcome. Oral first responders were never notified. We never got any requests for information or
communication. Far as I know, city council was not even notified. Township residents are still, many of them unaware. And this collapse of communication endangers people, real people that could get see serious delays
in immediate care. So again, I just ask you to reach out and determine where this breakdown happened. Thank you for your time. Second call for public hearing. Hi, I am Kobe Westniaak. I live at 1227 1st Avenue Southwest in Reno.
Um, I feel my colleagues have definitely uh done very well hitting on everything, but as a township member and resident, um, this doesn't sit well. So, it takes Pine Island a lot
longer to get there than it does us. above anything else, decisions, money, all that aside, this is about our our patients and our citizens. If we can't help them, what does that
say? We have done a lot to bring Ornoo first responders, you know, where it is now. And we have a lot of very, very, very capable people to do this care. And I'm trying to understand as the rest of
us are how this decision was come about with none of us knowing and I'm not sure how many of you knew either. But I can tell you that your citizens in the township had no idea and still don't. I do not only work with uh Orno first
responders. I also work for Dodge Center ambulance as well and I work in the O mail. Patient care is 100% of my life outside even. So, um, I really, you know, wish you guys would take the moment, find out where the ball was
dropped, cuz it was. None of us knew. So, we need to figure out how we're going to help our patients and help our citizens. And if this is how it's going to continue, how are we going to make it good with them? Because they don't know, and that's wrong. So, thank you very
much for your guys' time. We appreciate everything you guys do. Third and final call. Good afternoon. Um, my name is Carter Cecell. Um, sure, uh, you don't know unless you live in my neighborhood. Um, but our Cell family had a houseire at
one point. Um, I live on 700 Woodview Lane, uh, southwest and we had these great people here that responded to our call, uh, for help. Obviously, that was a long time ago, but our fire our fire department was we had a our house was a total loss.
Um, our fire department came out with our personal items um and they were there as a family afterwards. To this day, that still drives here. Um, we still act as a family. and we treat everybody and all our patients like family. I want to talk about the improvements that we've done um
specifically for our fire department. Um because that's still a part of this. We train twice a month. Um that's just our basics. Um but then we also do drill nights every other week. Um these trainings go over full responses, uh ladder throws, uh hose deployments, um
and other things. Uh last month we had two live burns, so we really get our training in. Uh, I want to talk about our new apparatuses. Uh, engine 2, which I I'm sure you see all the time. We like to parade that around because we have pride in our in our apparatuses. That engine
is a rescue engine with all electric tools. Uh, we brought that to our high school class last week and Rochester Fire Department was amazed at what they saw. That truck has a 1500-gallon pump on it. Um, that's about the average for the industry these days. Um, going up to
2,000. Rescue one, which is our F250 uh Ford rescue truck, uh carries three bags, three essential bags on it. Our first in bag, which has basics in it. Uh also has our oxygen in it. We have our
trauma bag, obviously trauma, um AD, and then our PES bags. So that allows us to deal with any situation um that we have. And we also have a um uh our we also are able to support our fire department when
they're on calls. Um obviously in our city now the action um obviously our fire both our fire department and our first responders are pretty upset of what's happened. Um we go to calls to this day um in the township letting them know that you know we're not there if
they have a fire um and we let them know who's coming and they're still amazed by that. there's been no communication to them that even just about our fire department. So now we're having the same issue with our first responders. I'm sure that they're not going to know. I hope um as a first responder and fire uh
firefighter that our city can get the knowledge out there at least to our township members uh that this is what's happening because they don't know yet. Um and I hope that as a city you guys help us assist us in revisiting that that contract that we have.
Thank you. Anybody on Zoom that would like to speak? Unmute yourself and introdu introduce yourself. We got another one here. Drive Southwest. I'm coming back about 6 months ago. I asked about trying to get
a crosswalk for my DG market. So when the bikers, little kids will not go walking across. I'm a grandpa. They all know and my grandkids I know will be going across there and with the amount of traffic going down street all the time. It's going to be a safety hazard.
So we used to have one by the post office here for years and that went away now. Not sure why. That was for the same thing. just where people see the markings on the street and you know if you want to put a little thing in the middle saying that you know pedestrian crossing whatnot really would appreciate
I think would be not a lot of money and definitely I mean your safety crossing and again I just you know the speed limit is 390 through town I also mentioned it' be nice to go down to 25 in the residential area you know I I
walk every day and I bike all the time and so I I see the speeders out It's not everyone. It's only a few people, but all it takes is one. If we put it down to 25, it's going to And I go over Wisconsin all the time camping. There's numerous towns over
there at 25 miles now, right down Main Street. So, I encourage you to look into that, too. So, thank you very much for your time. Appreciate it. Thank you, Steve. One more time. 35 call then. Yeah. Hi, this is this is Logan Jose with Woods. I just have I have a quick
question. Um, we have an item on the agenda, but it's not a public hearing. So, is this the opportunity to to speak or will there be another opportunity later? Um, but I'd say this is the only time right now it's on the agenda for
anything regarding the King property. No, it's it's actually for the Riverbend development. Just a quick question and a and a comment, I guess. Yeah, please go ahead. Okay. Um, so as
you know, we're applying for a just a lot split and a variance. It was recommended for approval to planning commission. Staff's also recommending approval. Under the recommendation though, under item two, it says the owners will comply with the conditions of engineering comments um of the Stantech report to the planning and
zoning commission dated May 8th. Looking through those engineering comments, there's nothing really that that jumps out at me as as surprising except for for number five, and that's kind of what I would like to talk about. It's requiring that the developer construct a permanent 15 foot wide
batuminous or concrete driveway with covert to the existing lift station as part of the site improvements. Um my client feels like that's a bit of a reach by the city and is not in favor of that. So I think I'm hoping that maybe that can be removed as a condition uh of
approval and further negotiations can be discussed. you know, he may be open to to other options there because there will be some fill that's going to need to be removed from that site anyway. But to require concrete driveway and covert and vituminous um just not sure why why
the city is requiring, you know, the the developer to do that when if that's something the city need it should have been done already. Obviously, we're we're proposing an easement for for the work there. Um but a bit of a reach and a stretch to require that the developer
pay for those things. Thank you for your comment, Logan. Well, um your your right is on the agenda. I apologize for um you can do whatever you're ready. Yes. Under planning and 2013 or 25-3. Yeah, it's under planning and zoning, but it's
not under any kind of public hearing, which I I think the public hearing was at the planning commission. So, I was just curious comment under consideration. If you want to um stay online, we can do that and when it comes back up again, we can ask you to comment, too. Okay. Yeah. Either
way. Okay. Thank you. Yep. With that, we'll um close the public hearing at 7. Just one more. Okay. One more back here. Um name's Josh Sadler, 720 Minnesota Avenue South. We're on the agenda today to approve the variance. I
was just looking for clarification in there. Uh it says upon approval uh the old buildings had to be removed before the new building could be built but uh we are under the impression vice versa. We need the new building up so I have somewhere to put the stuff in the old
buildings and then I can tear so upon final approval from the building inspector, you know, I or in the process of that last phase of the building, then I can start tearing the buildings down. And so we'll um we'll bring that up in your discussion then review.
Thank you. Thank you. that um is at 703. Okay. First item is our um regarding the orocal seniors group has requested a waiver fee for the senior's room and the community room for
the remainder of 2025 six meetings and I think that fee is $30. I think it's on the schedule. They would like to wave it if we wave it. When we had the seniors before CO or CO that was waved at that
time and seniors group is now starting up again with age friendly. Where are you at on the agenda? Number six petitions request. Okay. I'll make a motion to approve that
waivering of the fee for the room. I'll second it for discussion. Okay. Um my concern that there is off of this as we continue to to wave more and more things that there are and and we
waved the lion for what it was for Fourth of July. And now we're waving the senior's room for this. Um goes along with it. Um the door is now open for a lot of things to go on, whether it be gold rush having meetings up here and everything else that we're waving all of
these these fees that there are for for different things. And I'm not against the seniors at all, but it's just, you know, the floodgates starting to open up with everybody because they can say a president has been sent already of what's being launched, so we should be able to have all of our, you know, wave
as well. That's my concern of what's going on with this. Um, it's just it's an opening a door. And I don't I don't think it's good to open the door. I don't disagree with you. I do think though that the seniors club does provide avenues where they're donating
back and providing financial assistance for other things for the city. So being cognizant of of that too. So being good stewards both both ways I think is important. No, I I agree with what you're saying off of that. um situation is that that
we have um a lot of committees or one committee in particular that donated to the seniors to be able to get their pamphlet printed and everything else that way. And so the fire department and first responders also do the same thing to help out with those seniors that go
along with it. Um I it's again it's it's a small thing. I understand that. But, you know, at a point it's just not this. It's what follows down the line as you open the door to this on who's going to be saying the same thing that we want
our fees, you know, waved as well. And and that's where the concern is that I have, you know, for for what we have. And we're trying to to make money off of, you know, what we have here for city hall on what what's being done and how it's being used. Is the fee so
outlandish they can't afford it or what's the fee? I guess they it's the rental fee for this room, right? How did that happen? It's $35 a month. It's something that was in the past it was waved and they're just asking for it
again. How many residents do you know use it? How many are members? I think that matters. How how many people are actually benefiting from being waved as well? I uh I'm part of the age friendly and
part of the seniors group. I just comment there was about 25 people at our first meeting and it's very well attended. People are excited about it. I would I think that's a a pretty substantial group of of our population
that would be would benefit from that. Um I think didn't they redo the kitchen or or donate to redo the kitchen here? Wasn't that part of you? I believe so. When was that? The
kitchen was when Oh, six, seven, eight years ago. So, it's been a long time ago. Yeah, that's But they Oh, they did that. Yes. How long ago was it, Riley? It's You've been around before my time. But I guess I would tend to agree
that um if they're finding other ways to contribute that that's just as beneficial as collecting the use fee for the room. What is the use for the room?
I think I believe it's 35 a month here. I mean, if it's 35 a month and you've got 25 people that are coming, you've only got a dollar a month for the people that contribute to be able to pay for the room. So, it's not like that's going
to be a hardship for anybody. It's 30 for less than two hours. For how long? 30 for 30 for two hours. And that's per month. So it's that less than three hours is three. But
you're part of that group, right? I'm part of the group. Yep. It's it's very worthwhile and there's a lot of So questioning whether you should part of the discussion. Well, I abstain from voting. I believe I can discuss it. But again, you know, I I'm I'm for the
seniors. I'm not against any of that. I'm a senior. Same way what goes on. It's just what it is on opening the door for everybody else that's going to be asking for the same thing. And um at a point you've kind of got to be
careful, you know, of what you do. And that's the only reason why I say that it's nothing against the seniors or or what they they they contribute to the community. It's the community center and I imagine everybody should probably contribute to
to you know I think we already do tax dollars too all age groups of seniors but it's it's it's you know there are some people probably that this is their one outlet and that's great they can do that and it's close
and I there may be some financial issues with them. I don't know but that just kind of follows with the senior group as well too. So any other comments? See none. All those in favor signify by saying I
post. Okay. I oppose. Okay, make sure all abain. Okay, next item is um you had Alliance on the Alliance Club.
Um yeah, with with I just wanted Well, it wasn't me that brought that up. Yeah, we've got a couple members here that um that um can come up and speak if they want and yeah, it's just kind of uh
understanding what is going to be going on and how we can help them in the future. Just having a discussion. Good evening. Thanks for having us. I'm Steve Sherry with the Lions Club and this is D Wings. Um, we are here more to
answer your questions about Fourth of July fireworks. Our club is um has the ability to fund the fireworks display this year and we're very grateful for the waving of the fees for using the park that helps us out tremendously and
it's uh for the community. Um, so far the feedback that we've been receiving is just lots of excitement to have the fireworks back. um our plans long term are to try and do this every year.
Um through our fundraising and um a community p participation uh we believe we can carry this on and keep it going. Um so so that's kind of our plans. Um the Lions really just our
current view is we're just going to handle the fireworks. Um, I think there is some interest in adding some more community activities, maybe turn it into a community festival or do something. We are 100% in favor of
that. However, our resources and manpower is limited. So, we aren't we aren't signing up to do that right now, but if somebody wanted to do that, we completely welcome it. So, what questions or concerns or
whatever do you guys have that we can try to address? I was just going to ask how how we can help you to make this successfully return year in and year out. And um I I asked them to come tonight because I was thinking that this
could be a bigger community event if they were if that was what their vision was. Um, and we can discuss. I think we're behind the ball a little bit this for from doing anything this year besides maybe calling out some food trucks. But um but I just wanted to kind
of let you hear their perspective, maybe their vision and see what we can do to help them make this successful and make this and and grow this and make sure that this stays in or no, right? I think I think the main draw is needs to be the
fireworks. If we can add other activities before that um to engage the community or something, I think that's a wonderful idea. I think our main idea too behind it was we don't want to make this a one-time
thing. This is an ongoing. So, if we had this big event and then next year we say we don't we can't we can't afford to do it. So, the idea was let's start with the fireworks. Let's see how that goes. Let's see how the community responds to
it. Um how the how the businesses respond to it. We're actively working with businesses to see if we can get donations from them to help us with with sponsoring. So, it's it's it's a pilot program in some ways. And yet, it's been
what, four years, five years since the last time we've had it. And so, there's been enough call for it to say, "Let's do it. We said we can we can do it. We can fund it." And that's where we're at
with it. So in terms of how we you know how much involvement the city or other individuals that's something that can be addressed at a later time or next year or however it works. So and I I think that as a whole because we've gone over this on
our budget for quite a few years that we've been doing it looking at it and it it didn't fit in off of that. I think it's a great idea. I think that this I'd like to have it a continual thing that there is that goes along with it. Now
that we'll see what goes on at the first year with that, but I think to add to it, I think exactly is what we want to do is is to see if we can't, you know, resurrect that again for every year coming down, you know. But again, I think more of us to have a chance to
work on that that there was will help and for us to be able to put in the budget for next year, which will give us some more funds to be able to play and work with you guys and maybe also contribute as a city to the fireworks also next year to help that as well. You
know, just the bigger the better, right? When it comes to fireworks and and that and I believe in in the community things that there are. I mean, um, that's one of the things that the fire and first responders have done is always been a part of that and and bringing the
community together and I think this is another great option to be able to do that. Ryland, we have that music in the park thing. Is that is it is parks and trails going to do that this year? Not this year. No. Okay. I was thinking that probably be a
good event to coordinate with them guys. Yeah. No, I just think we can do a lot down the road, you know, with this. I think this is a good stab to do it and Daniel, you guys were were instrumental on bringing that up. I think it's wonderful to do and I think it's good
for the community. Ask what can you guys do for us? One of the things that the Lions Club can really use is all the visibility and publicity we can get. So if there's avenues that you have and you can get the word out that you know our Lions
Club, we feel like we're doing good things for the community and we get the more people we have involved with our organization, the more stuff we can do. So that's I think um just some background too, you know, we the city did support it. Um the
fire department donated some money, gold rush donated money and so as we as over the years straight to pole. Here like 25,000 pounds. Really? Okay.
I think there's Let me see. We can fix it. I'll learn. Oh, they don't know they're online. I think there's also opportunities to do fundraising events throughout the year. So, I know you guys did the flags, but I think there's also opportunities to think about what are we doing on them or
to start getting that excitement or, you know, a couple three times a year people are more than generous to donate to a great cause. Our uh the flag program is almost doubled this year over what it has been last year. And we did increase the price by $10 this year. And that $10
is to help fund for the fireworks. Yeah. So that's really been a really successful program. It's pretty neat to see all the flags in the community and uh to see them up and about. But that's part of what the oral crew does. We helped with the VFW. We put up a new
flag pole for them and bought the flag mounted it and everything. And so we're we're actively involved. We've got a ditch cleanup. We're trying. We're a smaller group, so there's just kind of limited a little bit of what we can do because of our size, but the
possibilities are endless. Do you think it's reasonable to come back um for the July meeting and kind of give us a rundown of how you felt it went and um if it's something that we can Yeah. And then maybe we can we can
start brainstorming early on on if you guys felt it was a success and it's something you want to continue that maybe we can work on getting that excitement and getting it to be more of a a festival go out at 5:00 go to a you
know burger and broad tent and alliance might have some options. Um we've got a community barbecue coming up in June. Maybe we move that to July and have that be part of that would be a great idea. There's a lot of discussion I think we can have. We don't know what we don't
know because I think we the excitement see how this year go this year was completely let's make the firework make it happen and keep things pretty simple. So that right now looks
like it's going and I think all our ducks in are in a row and boy we're looking forward to seeing how it goes. Thanks for coming in. Yeah, I thank you guys for coming. Thank you. Look forward to working with you guys again.
Next item is a under legal services. Um on your front of you there is a letter from Taft and Mike um are you still on the line? Yes, mayor. So I can just really
briefly explain this. Um it's not really that complicated. Basically you have a public finance attorney on bond council Mary at Taft the law firm Taft. Mary represents almost the majority of the cities in the state when they do bonding
projects and so she's so they have a lot of conflicts because of that and so that law firm Taft is now in negotiations to be hired by the gold rush crossing project um to help them negotiate with the city on on the development
negotiations. And so because they represent the city as bond council, that creates an ethical or legal conflict under rule 1.7 of the rules of professional conduct. Um they want you they're asking the city to wave that
conflict. In other words, allow them to represent gold rush crossings. And the reason for that is it's it's not really a direct conflict. It's under the par two of the rule where it says there's a significant risk that the representation
of one or more clients will materially limited the lawyer's responsibility to another client. And that could happen as she explains in her letter in the future. And so if they're just going to represent the Gold Rush Crossing uh corporation LLC to
negotiate agreements with the city and and development approvals, that's not really a big deal. So, where it could be a big deal is in the future. For example, on that last development project, I'm forgetting the name of it right now, but you denied like the
reasonzoning, like if you were to deny an approval for the gold rush crossing and they decided to appeal it, then it would become a ripe conflict and then at that point her letter points out that it would be readressed. Um, but obviously
that's pretty unlikely to have to happen. So, it's not a it's not a huge deal. I don't think I think you can wave the conflict. They're asking you to sign this letter and return it. They had sent this a month ago right after the last meeting. And I told Jason to have you
address it and because I don't think he can wave the conflict. I think the city council has to do that. And um so if you wave it, just vote to approve this and then they'll um the mayor can sign it and send it back to her. Um, and I think what happened was Jason got sick today
and he emailed me and just said he forgot to put it on the agenda. So, um, but I can take any questions if anybody has any questions. I The only other thing I'd say is bond council is really completely unrelated to the gold rush crossing project. I
think they're totally completely different. Um, it just so happens that the same different lawyers at the same law firm are representing or are proposing to represent that that group. So if anybody has any questions or I can
answer those. I'll make a motion that we go ahead and sign this and and move ahead with your recommendation on that. Mike, I'll second. This is also discussion, right? Mhm.
Discussion. Yeah. I'm sorry about that. No, nobody said anything. my discussion. It's like we got a first and a second and that's where you you you mentioned bond. Mike, are you talking about the
bond that they would put forth to uh No, it's a prior bond. Performance bond. It's a prior No, no, no. It has nothing to do bond count. That just means public finance attorney. So when the city wants to borrow money for a project that creates legal work you have to fill out.
There's a bunch of rules and statutes that you have to follow. And Maripple, this lawyer helps has helped the city of Oronoko apparently in the past. That's why she's writing this letter. She represents every city in Minnesota on projects completely unrelated to the gold rush crossing. I mean, she might
have last represented you 10 years ago or 5 years ago, but if she has an ongoing relationship with the city to provide those services like she does, and I think every one of my clients she represents, um it has nothing to do with gold rush crossing. Um it's just when when the
city bonds, cities as the entity has a right as a government entity to bond, borrow money, um uh for projects, for public improvement projects. So, she represents you in that capacity. their firm would represent Gold Rush Crossing in a completely different capacity
unrelated in different capacity. Um it has nothing to do with bonding. It has to do with them trying to build a development out in the township or an exit into the city and build it here. So it didn't so it in no way is connected with a performance bond on on gold rush
crossings part. No no just same word different meaning totally different. Yep. Totally different. So it's it's totally unrelated. Clarify that. So thank you. Yep. Any other comments? Seeing none. All those in
favor signify by saying I. I. I. That's approved. And um then mayor Jason comes in in the morning, right? I I'll communicate that to him, too. Do you mind if I So, I didn't realize there'd be this many additions
to the agenda. I didn't Jason wasn't gonna have me attend the meeting at all, and then he was sick. That's why he was going to explain what I just explained. Um, but then he asked me to jump on, but I had one comment on the WSB project, ordinance drafting project. Um, that is
sort of a legal review, so it kind of fits here. All I think Kathy's going to speak about it later about more details, but I'll just tell you that they're in they they provided the final um versions of the completed project ordinances and I'm doing the final review and I'll have
that done next sometime next week. And then Kathy later in the meeting today will explain more I think about that or if it's on the agenda or not. But I just wanted to let the council know that that just came through LA late last week and so we're making progress on that. All right. We did add it to the agenda and
Kathy gave me a thumbs up so she'll talk about it a little bit later on then. Thank you. And then I'm going to lock unless somebody else wants me to stay on. I I wasn't really involved with um the the easement or the lot split. I don't really know anything about it. So,
I I that's why Jason didn't have me come to the meeting, but if people want me to stay, I can stay, but it would save you some money. It could be a long meeting. So, um is that acceptable if I log off now or do people want me to stay? Have a good evening, Mike. Okay, perfect. Okay, for you to leave. That's the right
answer. There you go. Thank you. Thank you, Mike. Thanks, Mike. Approved. If your packet was horses for him, it looks like we're doing pretty good on the traffic stops. We got 16 on there this last month. So,
thanks for your good work. What's the difference between a traffic stop and traffic enforcement? a traffic enforcement where we set up in a specific location if there's stop sign violations being reported or speeding in certain areas of town. We we create a call for traffic enforcement in that
area and then traffic stop will be created if somebody violates enforcement. Thank you. I've just noticed in the last month just like visibility out in residential areas. So that's always a plus just to see cars drive around. Yep. you guys have
approved. Um, so there's an extra five hours of service to the city of or not too. So you will probably see us more on that day. Great. Thanks. H Dolan, uh, public works, you have some items here you'd like to discuss.
Yeah. Uh item one is the uh cap product link for our wastewater treatment facility generator. Are there any questions? Yeah. Was that uh looked at when we did the first uh contract that there was on
putting water and sewer out there with that generator? Uh the first contract that Ziggler Power Systems gave us, we didn't have the capability then. This is a new product. Now we do have the capability. So this would be a way to remotely access our generator
uh remotely uh diagnose it and log data fuel consumption run times all sorts of information. We get that in real time. So cat ziggler a worldwide company they can access that. So this
generator could have issues uh different things going on with it and they can learn from all these other installations. So when they see a code that comes across ours like uh low temp, low fluid, something or other, they can
diagnose it uh without being on site. And uh it it makes for a really handy uh troubleshooting. and and it's not it's not me or someone else standing out there guessing, you know, it's factbased data and that's one thing that uh they
would like to to push on our generator and it's a it's a brand new generator. So I think it makes sense to uh you know keep that thing in prime condition. And so with that remote service, is there like a contract? Is there going to be an annual cost for that? There isn't. There
isn't. It's a onetime fee. It's kind of exclusive to Caterpillar. on on a normal run with those generators and you know more about that Joe than anybody off of that stuff generators. Yeah. But what I'm what I'm I'm thinking
is if you take a look at what we have, you know, with these generators a lot of times they'll run those things certain hours a month or a week or depends upon what goes on. Yep. Yep. Those are we doing that now on a regular basis? Yep, we are. And we're running it with a full
load that there is off of it. No. Uh we just transfer power. So whatever the load is at the time. Uh so different processes at the plant could call for 100 horsepower of of air compressors or pumps or could call for 10. So your your
capacity could be 0 to 5% or it could be 10 to 15, right? That that generator is oversized for that facility for future growth and future expansion. So, uh, another part of this,
uh, separate from this number one tonight is, uh, load bank testing, and that's another topic I'd get into here later. Yeah. Because I'm I'm looking at what we do with the fuel that's in there, too. Okay. Um, and of course, you've got to critically go through
this, you know, but we should be going through and using it and replenishing that that fuel that's in there, you know. So yeah, which we have to use it to re to replenish it. Absolutely. So that's that's another topic tonight here at one
or two down. Uh uh fuel testing and uh load bank testing. So uh every month the generators run and they are put under a load and then certain times of the year uh fall we would potentially run the generator longer. So for an extended run
time, burn up some of that fuel. Then we'd get ready for uh we'd call it uh premium number one diesel. It's treated for the winter. So we'd have good treated fuel on board for the winter months. So there there's kind of some
fuel management that we're going to be strategically consuming and purchasing throughout the summer. And uh so we're we're we're ready for the winter months when emergencies happen. You know, when it comes to fuel, are the tanks inside or outside? Tanks are inside. It's part
of the generator. It's a 1500gallon tank, so four bucks a gallon, you know, it adds up. So, uh, we do want to we do want to keep that fuel in in good in good shape, good quality. So, uh, that's another thing that plays into this fuel
management. So, yeah, I know diesel fuel has an issue. It draws moisture really easy. So, yep. Got about a year and a half lifespan on it. Needs to be need to be gone. Yep. Yep. So we're we're we're strategically planning burning up that and consuming that fuel and but number
one tonight is this product connectivity through Caterpillar is um the one thing I think I look at this as being a long-term and with a one-time cost 105 years from now we decide well maybe we should be monitoring it. Well now we're
$2,700 or $2,800. It's a pretty pretty small investment for the life of the generator and uh it makes sense I think and I'll make a motion to approve the um remote access. I'll second that.
Any other comments? Was this planned for like in budget? I mean I know you have the where you would pull the cost but like for these three was this something that we were thinking about at the beginning of the year or these are unexpected? It wasn't. This is this is kind of a new product that Cat's
offering. And uh being that this generator, you know, this generator is probably 300 $350,000. So, you know, it's not just a it ain't just a couple thousand unit. So, I I would really feel more comfortable long-term for the sake
of the city, the residents, the sewer utility users that that thing is always ready to go. That is a critical unit. And later on you'll see some other critical units that I've identified as well. So So do we see the data? Correct.
Yeah, I I will have access to the data. Uh so will Ziggler Power Systems. Like I said, that's a worldwide company. So they could have this generator in Japan and have issues with it. We could have the same issues and they can diagnose it. It's it's a really good uh system
they offer. So it's not um proprietary to CAT. It's it's available to you as well. Correct. I the owner has access to it as well. Correct. Just to confirm if they diagnose an issue, we're not getting charged for
that time. Like that's the onetime fee. Like or is the onetime fee just the surveillance of it? So when when I call CAT and I have a problem, generator's acting up, it's tripping out on diagnostic codes, whatever it may be, that starts a service ticket, okay? The
clock starts ticking. These guys are professionals. They don't waste time. They're efficient. So that service ticket starts and and and time is is uh charged to the city. So that could be
diagnosing it, it could be analyzing the data, it could be the phone call, it could be the inerson, they they do keep track of their uh service very detailed. So the 27 is just the monitoring of it. That's just
installation installation. Installation of it. Yep. onetime fee. Once it's up and running, I get the app, I get the passwords, we're up and running. Yep. That's the unit end installation. The switch the switch gear the remote access components. Yeah.
Okay. You're pulling that out of the subcontracted services. Okay. And that and the sewer utility. Yep. How much is in that bucket in the subcontracting? Well, will we uh
That's a good question. That's a good question. As long as everyone keeps paying their sewer bills, we should have money in the account. No, but I'm just saying, you know, because there's a few of those things that you're coming out of there, which, you know, I understand you got to pull from someplace, but how much is
that? And, you know, we're we're we're actively working on a uh cost schedule and uh payment plan back to PFA. And so the, you know, the assessments we collect from the phase 1A sewer system, you
know, those those monies and dollars are coming in. We have income. Uh, we should be able to to to absorb that $2,700. I think that's a fair ask. I've asked Jason about doing some like quarterly
reviews of all the different funds just so we know what's that cover. Do it on a monthly basis. I've asked for that for years. Yeah, I know. Okay, different topic. Good question. All those in favor? There's no more
comments. All those in favor signify by saying I. I oppos. Approve. Number two. So the next one is the uh is it the fuel testing and load bank or is it the transfer switch? Transfer switch. Transfer switch. Okay.
So earlier I talked about uh some other generators that the city has that are deemed critical uh lift station one, the fire station and the treatment facility. So the automatic transfer switch which
uh senses incoming utility power when that utility power goes below or above a certain range that transfer switch kicks in and it says turn on generator transfer power to emergency power. It monitors the utility power, incoming
power. When the utility is back to normal, the transfer switch says, "All right, we can shut off cool down generator. We're going to transfer back to utility." It's a very critical component of generator emergency standby power. So that switch gear, mechanical,
electrical, uh it needs to be maintained. It needs to be tested and inspected. And this would be an addition to our current contract. Uh what it is 258140 that
would be a a payment this year 2025 and also a payment next year 2026 when we put this thing out. Well, let me make a motion. I'll second it. Okay. Now we go for discussion. When we put this
thing in and we wired that stuff, wasn't that shouldn't that have been a part of that from the original put in to know with that transfer? Nope. No. This this is all above and beyond. Uh CAT offers this service. They offer
multiple different services. Uh this is one of them that we've deemed critical and important. No, I can see where it's important. But I mean that should have been there from the very start when we did that. I think all of the equipment is there. It's just monitoring and
making sure that it's functioning properly. It's a maintenance of the existing equipment. You're not buying equipment. You're buying a maintenance contract. Yeah, we're buying a maintenance contract. A a portion of the vehic and it is. You have automatic
transfer switches on those generators. Yep. Will they prorrate it because by the time you implement you're halfway done the year for 2025? So we're we're we would be paying for a transfer switch testing for 2025. That would be this this payment and then we'll also pay in
2026. How often is that trans how how often does we would do that annually? We would do that transfer testing annually. So all that all that mechanical switch gear, you know, it's a pretty elaborate piece of equipment. So if if something's
not working properly and things aren't moving and if the the brains and the controls and elect electronics aren't working, you know, you you're dead in the water, right? We're backing up basements and the fire hall can't respond to emergencies, right? So is
there still a manual switch besides There is there there's ways to do that. Uh but relying on that automatic transfer switch is is key. Absolutely. We we we we rely on these generators and if there's one weak link, you know, you
might as well throw it all away, right? Cuz we just redid that transfer switch, wasn't there, over in the fire fire hall a couple years ago. Yep. Yep. And so that transfer switch that we replaced was never maintained, never inspected. So I'm not saying that was the problem
with it, but No, I I just I know we put that in over there and had that done. So, so yeah, you can see the breakdown. The sewer utility will pick up the the majority of that and then emergency operations would pick up the other uh
portion of the for the the fire hall generator. So, how much is in that bucket in the uh emergency emergency operations? Yeah, I hadn't seen that one on our budget. So, what's that? I had
seen that in our budget for the emergency operations. Yeah, it's right after fire and first responders. No, no. I I know where 3,000. No, I was just wondering how much money we had in that that particular fund.
Oh, uh, somebody got that packet in front of them. Emergency operations is $2,400. 2400 stand by generator annual maint. So we've already got it in our budget there. We had we had the 800 in the
budget for each of them the big generators to start with. That was that's basically changing oil, make sure the air filter, you know, the the the the the maintenance contracts we're talking about. You can get a guy to come out and kick your tires and check your oil, right? Or you can get someone to come
out and diagnose the computer and and log in and and you know do all the good stuff. You know what do we want? Do we want the guy kicking the tires or do we want a little bit more advanced technical support? And I would say that these generators are important critical
and I think they need to be functioning at all times. And I'm not doubting any of that stuff that there is. I'm just I'm looking at where the funds are coming from and and and what's what's left because it's only May. Okay. If that's all we've got in there for the emergency operation is
$860, we've wiped that one out. We don't have anything else left. You know, a good question would be what if it was $8,000? You're It is a good question. I mean, that's Would we say no to the fire department? Would we say no to the treatment facility? would we say, you know, I don't want to play devil's
advocate here, but I just want to you you'd still ask where's the money coming from? And that's all I'm doing is asking where the money's coming from. You know, the other part of it, I'm not denying or questioning the other part of it. Any other comments? I think it's a great
something to look at. It's something that it's well in a disaster you could be distracted and forget about it and automatically do it or it's in the middle of the night you don't have worry about it. So to me I think it's a it's a good investment. I'm just I'm just
thinking too that if these kind these kind of fees is somebody on staff going to be learning how to do these tests without paying somebody outside? We have we have quite the public works budget. So I would think somebody would be learning somehow to do the testing and stuff on
them too. Yeah, we're we're we're learning. Yeah, there's like you say, we we can kick tires and change oil, but uh you know uh we're not diesel mechanics. We're not we're not power system mechanics. You
know, this is a a very skilled position and and highly technical. So the days of the days of old generators are are [Music] uh beyond, right? So these things deserve a little bit more
technical. So I I'd love to to to take the guys and and get them off the mowers and and have them uh you know work alongside CAT power systems and you know until we get some some some staff time and some some more staff. I I you know
doing well that was that was kind of one of the original plans of having everybody on public works is someone learning all the learn how the power plant or the sewer plant works and other stuff. So yeah and and we are we're continuing to to learn. It's it's a process. You know, we're we got, you
know, 80 acres of parts to take care of and and uh we only got uh you know, three three four staff members that can. So, if you look at the quote on page 13, the scope of work, there's about 15 items that are part of the maintenance
and training level 11 or two. So, I you look at what they will do for us versus us taking time to be trained to do it or can't do it or won't do it. It's you gotta be trained to do this stuff. No, no, it's just so we're missing that. I'm not saying part of it. So,
that's in that's in the next quote, right? The only other thing to draw attention to. So, based on the budget that Jason put in the packet, that line item, we're already $1,800 year to date. So, we budgeted
$800. What has been spent is um $18.84.37 84 and.37 for that line item. So we don't raise the same question too. I guess the other thing is that if the uh and I don't know how you broke it out
with that 1720 coming out of the sewer. I just split it three ways. Oh, I see. Okay. There's two for the sewer utility and one for EOC. We could we could minimize the emergency management budget by looking at a better emphasis on the
sewer side. We could have the sewer utility subsidize the fire department generator. Yeah. Yeah. That's where I mean we're looking we're spending money and and again I know we need things so I'm not against that but it's it's where it's coming out of the budget or do we need
to put it for next year and look at it that way and put it in the budget for next year. Yep. For sure. And it might be $500 more money, too. No, I I'm I'm not doubting that. I'm just saying as I look at this, it's like, where's this stuff coming from? I'm just just watching. If you had to
rank order the three things, like what's the more most important? Like if we had to triage or Well, or you just want it all. Well, and that's fair too, but I just Well, you don't have a treatment facility without station one. Those kind of go hand in
hand. We're making it work, right? Or we're doing some things to band-aid through. So, I'm just wondering if you if you could pick one, what's the most priority from a public's works perspective? Well, if we can't get
sewage to the plant, that's a problem. That's a weak link, right? Critical path. But if the plant can't run there's, you know, I guess I I I don't know how to answer that. I I wish I had a better answer for you. I And then and then same with the fire
department, you know, if the fire department can't can't access uh you know, emergency vehicles, you know. So this whole, you know, being prepared for for power outages and whatnot, it's it's a lengthy discussion and uh you
guys want to chime in at all? So we we still So for fire we still have budget for um the fire hall itself. One could make uh uh one could say that you know the fire fire station you know budget you know uh
station on&m or or R&M or whatever it is. We have money there. So why don't we pull some money out of that? I think we have $12,000 that we allocate every year for that. This is sitting on the fire fire station grounds. This is servicing the fire station itself.
I'll go along with that. If you're looking for some money, let's pull 800 bucks out of there. Well, that's what you got here for fun. We We really need power at the pressure station. No. And I know we we've had that issue with the transfer switch before. So, I'm I'm
not questioning that part of it, you know. I'm just looking at that where the funds are are coming and how we're doing this, you know. So, you know, to get a true idea of what we spend in the year, if we keep the budgets as they are and we go over in some line items and under
in some, you know, at the end of the year, I mean, is there anything else we're going to spend in EOC this year? Probably not. Hey, you don't know. Absolutely. We may. I'll call the question.
All those in favor signify by saying I I post That's approved. All right. Last item here is uh some fuel testing and load bank testing that Ziggler is offering. Um this uh will be
for load testing, a two-hour run at the treatment facility as well as a fuel analysis for uh the wastewater treatment facility generator. This will be a onetime cost
5,176 and this will be due in 2026. Can we put it on next year's budget? 2026 budget. What I'm asking for is approval that we're going to do that next year. This is today's pricing. You know, I I
think that that No, I understand that. I'm just thinking that um if this is like maybe getting the cart before the horse and we we take this up when we're doing the budget part of it for next year. Well, the comment would be
is so the current contract the $10,000 that is that in the initial installation cost or something like that if we're that was the maintenance contract that we struck with Ziggler Power Systems. Okay. So that's an annual fee. So this
is an addition to that. So if we take it out of the sewer utility, we don't really budget for sewer utility. Correct. It's not like our 100 budget. We don't budget for it. Correct. So how important is it? We have a time
frame that we can wait till the end of the year, decide if we're going to do it in 2026. I would like to move forward with this now so I can uh get a fuel analysis done this year and a load bank 2hour run this
year. That's what I'd like to do. Well, we don't have to pay for it until next year. Oh, okay. Okay. But be mindful of when budget time comes when I ask for another five grand and change to add to my
generator maintenance contract. That's what it's in intended for. Why wouldn't it be due until 2026? What's that? Why wouldn't it be due until 2026? It's due now, Paul. It's due now. Say right here because this is the
request. It wouldn't be due until 2026. It's right here in the paper. the cost the cost the payment is due in 2026. The work will be done in the next month. I understand that. But why isn't it being requested a payment now? Because the way
the current contract is set up uh and how payments have been made and will be made in 2026. What what's in uh what's included in that current contract for the $10,000 now that we have with them? Well, they cover all the city's generators, the fireh hall, the station
one, two portables, and the treatment facility. Right. So, that's one we did a few years ago off of that. Correct. We did it a year ago. A year ago. It was for three years. I think it's it's it's all a cart, you guys. We could pick out a hundred things to to maintenance or we could pick out 10 things to maintenance.
What we've done is we've picked out a basic level of protection. We want oil changes. We want fuel filters. We want now load bank testing, right? We want certain things that they offer. So, this load bank testing, is that for just for the for the planters or for all other
generators? We've done the other generators. Those are on like a three-year uh load uh schedule. The wastewater treatment facility we'd like to do annually. And this would be a really good load because I was telling
you earlier that generator only runs at about 5 to 10% capacity. So then it doesn't heat up. it doesn't run long enough and it doesn't put enough load on it so to really test out the water pump, the oil pump, and the electronics on it,
we don't really get a good idea of what that thing is capable of. So, you look at page 17 in the packet, it shows you the changes that would be made for this $5,500. Um, a level five load banks, two
hours in June 2025 in the proposal. They also do a level 30 complete fuel analysis in both voltage 2025 and 2026. So um it's really it establishes a great baseline for your generator. Right. We
don't have any baseline. Yeah. Right now you compare it to five years from now. You see have you lost power and then you can you know you look at your maintenance screen and what's gone wrong with the maintenance screen? What's causing this? So it's all part of it's all part of um stepping up and taking
care of your equipment. So last year we ran a load bank test on the fireh hall generator. Never been done before. Never been done before. And during that uh load bank test, the distributor shelled out. Bang. Done. Dead in the water.
Generator would not run, would not start, would not do anything. Dead. So it's good thing we ran it at a full load to find that out. When it transfers power every Monday night when it runs for a half hour, all it's doing is lights and outlets, right? there's no
load to it. So, it just idles. It's not it's not good for the motor. It's not good for the electronics and water pumps and oil pumps. And so, uh putting it to the test and giving a good load is is what is required on these generators.
One one other question for me, what's the fuel analysis going to tell us at this point since it's everything's new? fuel analysis. If there's moisture, uh the amount of uh actual uh combustible material in there, we can
add additive. We can uh do different things with the fuel. We can uh purchase different grade fuel to mix in to blend it. Uh doing that, doing that now before we get fuel uh before we order fuel will be
beneficial. Should we order premium? Should we order an additive? Should we Should we order kerosene? Should we order number one? What should we do? Out of curiosity, is the generator actually outside or is it inside or outside? It's outside. It's an outside unit. All self-contained. It's heated. It's it's
the the tanks are heated. It's all contained. We could talk about generators all night long. I've got a lot of stories about generators. When they when are they when they plan on doing an oil analysis on it? Oil
analysis. Uh they just changed oil in it uh this week. No, I mean a lot of most anybody that runs a truck or runs a diesel, they usually do an oil analysis. Tell them it gives gives them a description of any parts that might be failing just by the different metals in
the oil. Sure. Different matter metals. Yep. Absolutely. and that and I believe that's already part of our uh the level of service that we have. There's no other comments. All those in favor signify by saying I
I post. All right. Thank you. Have a good night. Yep. Uh, next item is water and sewer. Uh, we have two new members, Ricky Clay and Dan Radkkey, have submitted applications. So, I make a motion we approve these new
members, Ricky Clay and Dan Radkkey to the water and sewer committee. I second that. Any comments? Ricky just Ricky is a he's a a plastic surgeon retired but he did work uh when he was working for Mayo on
building committees um for some of the buildings around St. area. So, he has some construction background or awareness, I should say, probably. And Dean has worked on construction. Um, he's a lifelong member of the city, too. So,
no other comments. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. That puts us at full staff of seven people on our committee. So, that's exciting. Joe, quick comment about restoration in process. Uh yeah, we got a couple items there. Um so contractor
is in the process of uh repairing or reestablished or re reworking areas that were attempted to be restored. Turf turf restoration. We've had a lot of problems with turf restoration. Um so they're going through the project
and reworking um the areas by you know some of them are getting tilled up completely some of them are getting interseeded um and uh they're using different methods to uh mulch or establish turf
with blankets. So they are in the process of working through the community. They've been working here for about 10 days and they're about half done. Uh so that work will continue over the next week or 10 days here and uh hopefully get wrapped up. And then uh
just also a reminder that we um and there is I did send a letter to the contractor about the restoration issue. I think that's in your packet just as an FYI. Um and then also um city prepared a notice to residents uh who have not connected to the sewer or water
system yet. Uh the deadline for residents to connect is the end of the month and if they don't connect uh by May 31st uh then in the June billing cycle they will start start to receive billing
and if you remember the city code says that if you don't connect by the deadline and we've long established this deadline um that you'll get build $75 for sewer and $75 for water. um on a
monthly basis until you connect that um complete that connection. And if they fail to pay the um monthly bill, it will get assessed to the property owner at the end of the year. You know, how many houses we're still looking at? There is uh last count I
heard about 39 uh residents that haven't connected to sewer and about 20 that haven't connected to water. Uh there's a handful of houses that are not hab inhabited right now. So, you know, they won't connect. Um but that that was the last
count that we did. So, we certainly are seeing progress. People are connecting. It's just that that deadline is is uh fast approaching. So, if people haven't initiated that process yet, we'd strongly encourage them to uh get a hold
of city staff and and start working with a local contractor to complete those connections. Right. Planning and zoning resolution [Music]
25-12 on page 31. We got page numbers. We don't pages too. Huh. So I think he's got extra pages. Got extra pages. You're right. I don't know where you had the numbers, but Is this for the one that's on 720 Minnesota Avenue or is it the
other one? The riverbed. This is the Yes. Mayor and council. This is for the shed at 720 Minnesota Avenue. Okay. All right. You want to go ahead and go with with that one? Um
yes. Um uh so mayor and council, the request is for a variance to the uh total area of accessory structures. In my report, which is in your packet, it's noted that this property at 720 Minnesota Avenue has several existing structures. Uh and they total uh over
the limit that's set in the code for the total square footage of accessory structures. the um applicant Josh uh Sather wants to put up a new building uh taking down an old dilapidated one. Uh but uh that would uh put the property
even further over. So the compromise the approach that the planning and zoning commission recommended is that the property stay at the current uh square footage of accessory structure by removing other structures on site uh
when the new one is built. And uh Mr. Sather agreed to that. Uh he can take down structures totaling 2240 ft to equal the 2240 ft building that he wants to put up. Um the uh uh the resolution
uh 2025-12 u uh has the details including conditions of approval and findings. Um Mr. Sather noted at the beginning of this meeting that the first condition that the structures uh to be removed
would be removed before the new structure is built. That seems like a reasonable condition uh to modify uh if uh if the council is also willing to go along with that and that wording could be changed to say existing structures on
the property totaling 2240 ft will be removed within 60 days of the new structure being built. as illustrated on materials submitted by the applicant or whatever time period you feel is necessary 30 60 90 days. Uh I just
suggested 60 here. Uh otherwise the other conditions and findings um uh represent what the planning and zoning commission recommended to you. Uh I'd be happy to answer any questions on this. U Josh are you still here? Uh quick
question on that. Um, is it possible for you to to do that within 60 days after you finish that? So, that'll kind of work it before the winter. Yes, sir. Yeah, 60 days is plenty of time to get those taken down. Okay. So, u with with that, I'd like to
to put that in, Bill. Okay. Yeah. Make a motion. I make a motion to put within 60 days and remove the before as as what Phil had just said. Summary also seen it said was removing four buildings but actually removing
five. Am I correct? Uh yeah there's the one two three four and then I had to come up with five of them to get the square footage that you were removing. So yeah that one. So what's what what would
be the enforcement mechanism for the 60 days? It's one thing that staff will will watch and be able to do it. It's pretty easy for us to see because it's right on Minnesota Avenue. But if they don't then then Well, we kind of set
precedent already by letting letting the one garage. We did do that one on Minnesota Avenue with the lady next to Presbyterian Church. So, we let her uh turn around and put the new one up. We gave them We gave them a year. Yeah. So it just Oh, there's a lot of stuff we
need to enforce. There's no question about it. So, we're going to be watching. 60 days is reasonable. Yeah, we're we're going to be watching. The biggest one's what 12 by 26. They're all 10 buildings. The 35 by 40 is already taken down. It's already gone.
That's already gone. Yep. That one's already gone. So, half of it's already Yeah. The uh new building's going right up over top of that uh old site. Yeah. We would change the wording in it to add 60 days to Yeah. Instead of taking
before buildings down. Yeah. Within 60 days. Is that already written in the No, we're we're we're putting it in and making number one conditions. Yeah. That too. I see we need to change the date of the resolution because it says May 21st in
it. It's May 20th is the date we're talking sitting here talking tonight. I see halfway down the page here. Right. Yeah. On that one, I see the top part of is May 20th, which is right, but it's wrong here. But there was three three
lines in there. Yeah. Whereas Okay. Is the 21st. Is there any other comments, Phil, from your perspective? No, that would be it. Okay. So, thank you, Phil. Right. Make a motion for approval of uh
We have a motion. We got a motion in a second. Second. Any other comments? This is a voice vote, Rachel. So, you'll read off the names of the council members will vote on the bottom of that resolution. That
box resolution. Hold on. Thanks, Josh. Thank you. Mayor. Hi. Uh, council member Phillips. Hi. Council member Pendergrass. Hi. Council member
Spring. Hi. Council member Riceer. Hi. Okay. Next item is resolution that's approved. Resolution 2025-13 is a lot split variance for outlaw A at Riverbend Stakes. Bill, you want to do that one also? Yes.
Um, mayor and council, this is a request for a lot split at Riverbend Estates outlot A. This is a neighborhood that was platted some years ago and what is now outlot A was the location of the drain field for that uh that
development. Uh with sewer uh now being available, that drain field is not needed and the that parcel is just about exactly the right size to create two home lots uh but just shy. So, they're asking for a a variance to the lot size
for one of the u uh parcels that's called the remainder. There's a tract A that meets the 20,000 ft² minimum and a remainder parcel that is just shy of that. So, they're requesting a variance uh to that. The planning and zoning
commission uh recommended approval of that uh with uh conditions and uh findings which are in resolution 2025- uh 13. Again, this is a very
straightforward lot split and uh uh you wouldn't know that uh this lot is substandard by a few hundred square ft. It will look like the rest of the lots in that uh neighborhood. But, uh, with that, I'd be happy to answer questions
if you have them. A motion. Uh, no. I'll make a motion to approve this. I believe we've got Oh, second. Now we can do discussion. Okay. You had the question about the driveway, right? Yeah. But Logan, so I can provide a little bit of
perspective on that. So even the developer um who currently owns the out lots and wants is petitioning to split them and then build housing on them on them. He
uh he was responsible to build the lift station. And at the time they um built the lift station, we talked about the need to install a driveway to the lift station. Well, the argument at that time was well
the lift stations privately owned and so they didn't feel that they need a lift station. Well, recently we've taken ownership of that lift station and in order to maintain it, we'd like a driveway. I think it makes sense to be
able to get equipment to that facility and installing a little bit of fill cover in a driveway to that facility makes sense. And in my opinion, it should be the developer's obligation to construct it. It really should have been
built to begin with, but um as part of the negotiation for the development, you know, that's one of the things that uh fell on on their side. So, at this point in time, um, it's my opinion that the driveway should be constructed, and
that's why I included it as a condition. It's right along the street though, isn't it? I mean, it's right there. It is, but if you look at every municipal lift station that we have, there's a driveway to it so that you can get a truck to be able to pull pull a pump or
do maintenance on that lift station. Not that it's needed that often or even having the truck pull in there so they can get out, not be on the street, not have to, you know, walk through the ditch to get there uh to deal with that. So when Kane's out looking at that
facility or anybody else, um he's got a driveway and he can access it with, you know, tools and equipment. When you put in that uh pad, does the pad go around the outside back side of it, too, or is it just I haven't I haven't looked at myself, but it it
doesn't need to. It just needs to go to the lift station. The lift station. Yeah. I mean, it's so close to the street. I don't even see where there's I mean, you could have a truck sit on the street and play with the lift station. I mean, it's it's right there. I mean, it's there really isn't that the back
side of it's on the back side of a ditch. up against the road. So, it's 60 feet from the center of the road or 30 feet from the center of the road.
It's a 60 or 66 foot right away. Am I saying that wrong, Johan? I mean, you you live right next door to It's right next to my property. Is it um do I want another driveway right next to my property? No. Um but if it's
required and if it's needed then then let's get it done. I think the discussion about it was discussed earlier was private and so it's not private anymore. So it's the public is asking because it's you know
it's on the back side of the ditch. So there's potential for trucks backing in there when they're doing work running a ditch out the right way out. So there's some damage done there. So having a a paved path with a covert eliminates all that. It's it's
a dark driveway. No, be really short. It's you know 15 ft long probably, right? Yeah. No, I was just I'm picturing it in my mind. That's that's why I'm I'm saying that that's a standard we've got on all the other limitations.
I got a different question here. This is a straightforward lot split because I don't some of the other lot splits been done around town. Why are we doing a 10% parkland dedication for it? You know, if we're doing lot splits, I don't want to see some Yan decides to
split his lot and then he's got to pay 10% to to the city for parkland. It's consistent with the larger development. Well, yes, but this is a large development. The development's over with. This is just this and and then uh Phil's comment it was a straightforward
lot split. We haven't asked anybody else to do that. I can't ask them to. So it was consistent with the other 17 lots in Riverwood Hills. Well, it might been consistent with the other 17 lots. Those were developed then. This is this is this is a new new step
in the whole in the whole project. Well, if it was across the street, it wouldn't be part of the development with the parking lot, but it's it's in what was originally developed in the plot as a development. Right. What you're asking is a simple lot split to throw 10% for
market value up for for parkland dedication money for a lot split. That sets a precedent for the next person that comes in and wants to do a lot split. Now, they have because this is a development. Well, it's not a development. It's not a
development. It's a lot split. The development happened a few years ago. This is a lot split. Preliminary plant included an outlaw a that's what this is that they're doing a lot split on. Well, right. Well, right here at the top of it says we're
approving a lot split and a variance for outlot. Doesn't say we're doing a development. There's no uh I hear what we're doing a development. It's called part of river bend the states right would that would that drainage field that would have been
excluded from the 10% for larger development and so now that this is developable land it's the uh the other thing to note there is you know it was always contemplated and is discussed within the
development agreement that that up lot someday will be developed as residential housing like um when when the community waste treatment system sunseted and was allowed to be removed. So it seems
reasonable to me. I guess I don't want Mr. Mayor and Council, if I if I may, uh the subdivision code requires park dedication when new lots are created. So whether we call it a plat or a development or a lot split, there are
new residential lots being created which creates the demand for parkland and that's what the park dedication ordinance is based on. So there are two new lots being created and that's what the park dedication is for. We we didn't we didn't create it when we split this
split the lot over here just a couple of bucks last year. No. So why are we why would we do it today on a different lot? Because the very first whereas it identifies Riverbend Development LLC owner. It doesn't matter if it was a a
business or what if you're doing an individual lot split. That's that's my take on it. Okay. Well, that's I guess I sat on I sat on the board when when the first parkland dedication came up and I don't think it was referring to lot splits. It was it was referring to major
developments. So, Um, any other comments? I think the I think the pay I guess we should ask Logan. Are you still on? Logan's not on either. Yep, I'm here. Would you like any other any other comments to share with us? Uh, I just I
think I shared um, you know, our perspective at the beginning. Um, obviously we'd like that that condition stricken. um that requires the batuminous and concrete driveway with a culvert. Um you know, we provided we're providing an easement. I think there was
some discussion about being able to get to the lift station. That's what the easement is for, but to require somebody to to put in the infrastructure for the actual driveway um seems to be a little doesn't seem to be reasonable in our opinion. We'd rather that condition be
stricken and then like I said work with the city for um providing fill um to level that area out so that the city can put in you know the the concrete or patunist drive. Anybody have any comments for
Logan? Granted, it's not a big piece, but it is a necessary one, I feel. Just thinking that if there's going to be a truck and there's only grass, then who's going to pay the bill to repair the grass of that easement with a the
city truck pulling in there? I mean, the new owner of that lot and the neighbors aren't going to want truck marks through there. And then it's going to have to get repaired with city by the track there too. Right.
Any other comments? Seeing none, we'll call the voice vote. Rachel. Mayor. Hi. Council member Phillips. Hi. Council member Pender. No. Council member. Hi. And council
member. Hi. approved. Okay. Um, next item was an WSB update. Kathy, would you want to come up and speak to that? Stolen my thunder earlier. So the the code that we've been working on so to circle back because not every council
member was on council when this pro project started uh planning and zoning has been working on a complete rewrite of what 600 800 pages of the planning and zoning city code with that we do
have a contractor that we did get through an RFP process the other year we did go and interview and ended up going with WSB as our contractor working on the code rewrite. The code draft is all but finished. Uh there's just a little
bit of legal review left. So Mike had referred to that a little bit earlier, but the code itself is much more illustrative. So instead of reading all kinds of text, you're going to get pictures. You're going to get a more understandable version of code. And it's now written
with the thought of city water and sewer in mind. and some of the different issues that we've had over the years are also being addressed in that. Uh, one of the things that's excluded that did get brought up after the process started was the city does have a sign ordinance that
sometimes ends up trickling in issues on signs will end up at planning and zoning that is not included because that sign ordinance is not originally part of planning and zoning code. It's just an extra sign ordinance that's out there for the city. Uh, one thought was to address that, but rather than get scope
creep and extra expense at this point, there's a lot of discussions and lawsuits recently with public speech, uh, choosing to not include that when it was not originally scoped anyway. Um, seems to be the choice to go. So, we can
go forward at this point with our time frame for getting some new code here and adopted by city. So what the time frame is on this right now May 28th so next week we do have our steering committee that's composed of a couple of us from
planning and zoning but as well as a lot of local citizens are also involved in this. So people who don't have any other positions with the city or employees or on other boards are involved. We did try to seek out a cross-section of representatives to be on this committee.
So the steering committee will meet next week via zoom. It with that we are going to CC planning and zoning commissioners with the date. It's going to be at 4 o'clock. It's going to be a short 30 minute and what it's going to be is
probably closed for actual comments. It's just going to be a highle overview. So if you would like I can also CC the council but I think just because of public meeting laws you guys will not be able to speak.
um only I will probably lead off the discussion just with a highle overview and then our WSB consultant will just do a highlevel very brief walkthrough of what the city code is and what the plan is is we're going to make sure our
steering committee group has an opportunity to see this. Then we are actually going to release this code to the public for at least a good month because we think it's really important that the transparency is there for the community. We know with some of the developments that have happened, it's really important to have folks have time
to take a look at this code. Understanding it's summer, understanding, you know, people might be sitting at the side of soccer. I don't know if they're going to be reading the code then, but it it will be out there and available. With that, we're looking then, like I said, end of May here,
steering committee first week or second week of June. I do want to give Mike a chance to finish his final legal review. he's gone through the draft, but he wants to do a final review of it. So once he's satisfied with that, what we'll do is we'll publish it out there, make sure it's publicized, make sure the
citizens of Ornoco groups or whatever other groups are out there do get notice that this information is out there and available. Most likely, we're looking at a July public hearing at the planning and zoning commission. Hopefully, we can get it all done in one night. If not, it would be continued to August worst case.
But once we're done with that, then the code does go to you guys for final adoption. So that will be accomplished, done moving on with that piece. The second phase of that, there's a small part that was originally scoped out in
the RFP where we are going to look to make sure the codes adopted, but making sure that city staff has the resources needed to, you know, here's the top five requests we get, here's the packets, here's the information. So just trying to make sure that stuff is easy to do
for our residents that live in town. Make sure that this code works. A little bit of training for staff and some of our planning and zoning folks, but that is included. The other piece that we've talked about at zoning as well is we have not looked at it for years, but
we've got a draft RFP for our zoning support services to go along with the new code. So, we're going to look at that and I've got a draft that we'll be reviewing at the planning and zoning committee and send to you guys to get approved at some point to start a process just to make sure we're doing a
good job of watching our tax dollars and making sure we're getting what we have out there. So, questions for me? Well, so in the in this code, you I've kind of mentioned to uh remember her name right off hand, but
I mentioned her a couple times. Does it seem like we're putting a homeowners association across the whole town? I know we've had codes before and had codes in place, but I'm just kind of curious how many new codes this is going to create. Well, we're going to be getting rid of the 6 or 800 pages of the
current zoning section and replacing it with this section. Now, there's two different things you're talking about here. One is here's what the city code is. This covers all of the homeowners, all of the individual lots. It covers subdivisions. It covers just individual
places. It covers businesses. Now, when you talk about your HOA, your homeowner association, they can do extra stuff in their little groups. And that doesn't necessarily play into what we're doing here. I understand that part. But I'm saying it is from from the way I see
some of this stuff being drawn up, it was like it was laying a homeowners association across the whole town. That's kind of was my Well, that's kind of what a code is. Yeah. It's year to make sure that there's an orderly development of community businesses and
residential and that you don't have adult establishments being built next to daycarees and churches. I mean, that's we're not trying to stop people from doing what they can with their property. We just wanted to be reasonable and that's that's kind of what planning and zoning is. So, so just for
clarification, when we talked about the land use regulations, we're talking about code 151 that you're redoing. It's the section for planning and zoning that's out there on the website in a hundred different little web pages out there. So, it's going to be the planning
and zoning section that's out there and I don't have the website off the top of my head, but it's I'll I will find that and get that to you for Yeah, I don't remember the code numbers. There's good this is my volunteer side, not my day job. So, I
can't I don't have the numbers memorized on that one. But the good news is that we are at the point we're about to a finished product. So that feels pretty good on the planning and zoning side. I know we've had a lot of volunteers reading a lot of code. So if you happen
to notice any of the folks that you know that might be on steering, thank them for their help and their hours that they have spent as volunteers on this. So Well, I do appreciate Yeah. And I think our public would appreciate the three to four weeks to review it. Absolutely. And that's we want to make sure we're as
transparent as we can be. That's been our goal through this whole process. So with that, like I said, we'll be take bringing this forward to you, but we'll also be bringing forward a draft for an RFP as well. Just a second one now. The first one's done and our second one. We want to make sure we're doing what we
can to watch our tax dollars because it's all our money going into there, too. So yeah. And the RFP would be for what? The RFP would be for what? Um just for our zoning support services. Yeah, hasn't been looked at for years. I've been on just a couple years and it
hasn't been looked at for years. So, it's just good prudent financial advice to do that every so often. Make sure you look at what we're covering up the costs. Any other questions or comments? Thanks, Kathy. Please feel free to read the couple hundred pages coming your way.
It's going to be exciting. So, thank you. Thank you. All right. Fire Department minutes on the consent agenda. Um Marie, you want to speak to your recognition? Well, I've got fire
department first that comes up. Um on that one, I I ended up dropping off a couple different things. Um actually the one individual page that was on here, which is on the two grant. Um and uh we we've got to be
finishing these up. It It's the armor grant. Okay. And and we've got the numbers. I mean, there there's no reason why this stuff shouldn't be completed. So, that one's just been dragging. We just we just have to get it done. Okay. And that that's worth
$40,000 for us, which is is huge. And we've already been approved. It's just a matter of putting the numbers together to get everything done. Um and so Adam's been following up. He's been been these people have been getting a hold of of Adam trying to get everything finished.
So hopefully Jason can get this done in the next week and it was in his notes that it's supposed to have been done but we need to get this done the DNR grant as well for the update of the ID number. So that's something in particular I
wanted to go over make sure we get Okay, that's it. Yeah, that's it for for the fire and the rest of it. I'll let you work on the first responders and then Well, you want to do the fire first and then so um we added to the agenda we want to
um be able to recognize our volunteer fire and first responders. So the request is to um pull out of the miscellaneous expense $42998 for the year um 48 to be able to purchase leather badge holders um for um
fire and then something in October for first responders. So May is um the national holiday for fire departments and then October is first responders. looking to pull $800 to be able to do some recognition gifts for um
individuals that um are supporting our community. I make a motion to approve that second. Yeah, that's appreciate you taking the time to recognize the fire department first responders. So, thank
you. Any comments? Seeing none. Thank you. All in favor signify by saying I. I opposed approved. Um, fire relief. That's they're in they're in the back. So,
consent agenda. They're in the consent agenda, right? Yes. I first responders. Okay. Then I sent some information that there was that was presented um and and gave the packet of that stuff
that everybody has. Um and what it does after this is just goes over some improvements and changes been over the last four years. I'll let yo if you want to speak on that one or Yep. So,
um, our director Dan Sant and I were at the May meeting of the Orno Township and we were given a couple minutes to speak uh about the decision that they had to
continue to on fire. Again, like you heard in our comment section before, um, news to us, news to everyone. Um, we had a few items that we
were able to share with them. I did not have the call times at that point. Um, to get the call times, all I did was call Burns at the LEC in in county and said, "Can I have our run times? Can I run
times?" go ask for it. I did give them our roster which is about the improvements that we made. The our roster we're at 25 open 25 tonight. Um members of OFR four years ago we were at
eight. Um our runs have increased since 20 um 2020. Our total calls were 139. Um last year we did 173. Um about threequarters of them are in the township uh which we also shared.
Um budgets for was was shared that's in your packet was shared from 2020 to to now um with a with a steep increase which they noted um from 2023 to 2024. Um this was for staffing for
training for equipment um for medications. Um is not cheap pad uh AED pads aren't cheap. So also it showed the township contribution which had been static at about 83 or 8,500 for at least seven
years back. We had asked for 149 for last year I believe was received. This year was uh bill for $30,000. Um, do you want to go over some of the response times too in comparison for
Sure. Yeah. So, um, some of the response times, um, you know, we're going to have better response times because we're closer, right, to the township, to the city, to the township. Um, it's it's
logistics. The fire trucks are kept out at 63 miles an hour, 65 miles an hour. It's it's time. It's distance. So, we're a little little slower than the fire out out of the gate. Um half of us come from the other side of town, but
um if you look at the call times that should be on there, right? Um nearly like three to three or 10 minutes. Um we just had a call the other day. Uh there's a deck fire in the township. Um I think in 10 minutes uh P
on fire was on 222. So um if you don't know this um with today's materials um in home not um they the fire will double every
minute. So the the size of fire it's it increases it doubles every minute. So again, even not on just medicals, but I'm on fire and it makes a difference. Um, I also did share with them
that we've, you know, we've gone from 8 to 25 responders. We have one paramedic, nine EMTs, and 15 EMRs. So, we run at EMR level, but we are better trained. We have six RNs, one of which is in the in the ED or
in the ER all the time with two nurse practitioners. We have three certified CPR trainers. Um, so they help us out. Um, they also train the the community, our community. Sounds like the gonna need some some of that help, too.
Um, also we have five certified stop the bleed trainers. So that's um kind of like uh wound packing um chest seals you know things that were done out on the battlefield or are done out on the battlefield that they've brought to you know to residential um with
school shootings and and other things. Not just that people say you're say you're out hunting accidentally shoot yourself say you're out hunting you fall out of your tree stand you need to know what to do right so we have five people that can can actually teach that um we
have two certified safety or incident safety officers that's Caleb um Timberman and myself and one fire instructor one instructor that's me um you know we've we've added our inventory system four years ago we didn't know what we had. We didn't know
what we didn't have. We didn't know what was expired. Today, we know all of that. Today, I could run if we needed to. I could tell you what our call yesterday, how much it cost us in material. Um, we have iPads now and
rescue one, engine one, and engine two for call navigation status. We now are fully all of our staff has the G5 communication pagers through grants and through um half of it's through grants and half the other half
was through um city funds. So these little guys are receive only and they're a thousand bucks. Um we're we're putting our new Motorola APX 6000 radios in service. The ones we had were the XTS 2500s that were
older than half my staff. Um, so, um, the new ones are in and they're about 4,800 bucks. So, that's what Jim was alluding to with the four $40,000, um, in the armor grant. That's going to get us another
eight. So, um, through state money, um, we're hoping, uh, maybe ne next month to start an EMS explorer program that's going to kind of piggyback on our fire explorer program that's been successful to date. We are now the firefighter
rehab for all of Mate County. Um we've been called by Pine Island Fire um and others. And of course you all know that we have our new rig um our new rescue one rig that is performing very well. So
what is the Could you just comment on what the firefighter rehab for all of county? What does that exactly mean? Yep. So if there's like like medical calls are sprints, right? like it's we get there as fast as we can, you know, to help as fast as we can. Whereas like
fire calls are a marathon. So if there's a structure fire, it could take it's not going to take one hour, it might take four. Um, right? It's, you know, it's extinguishment, but then there's overhaul and, you know, double-checking that, you know, there's no flare ups and
a whole bunch of other stuff. So if it's a big big fire, um, firefighters are going through their bottles fast, right? So they're they're sucking down down down air and they're getting tired and all that. So we go on scene to help out
and take vitals, give them water, liquid IV, whatever they need to help them get back. We can tell them the incident commander, hey, we recommend this person coming back because their vitals are kind of back down to normal, their heart rate's not at 110. Um, and then they, you know, can
make a call. So, how did you were you uh volunteered for that or appointed or commissioned or how were you established to be that? So, we we talked about this I don't know years back um and brought it to you guys um and talked about um setting that up and
and using some funds to do that um and getting some grant funds to do that. So, yeah. So, we finally we finally got to put it in place so we can heat and cool a tent. Um, and actually um our new rescue one that has the 2500 watt inverter on it can run eight air
conditioners if we needed to. Not that we do and we have one, but we can. So, we thought we we we did share some of that information as well with with attendant.
Right. Jim, was there anything else you wanted me to highlight? No, I think that that that's it. That we can respond faster than what I can through this area. Um do a better job. Um we've got the staff that's there. Phenomenal people that have come out of Mayo that
work there every day and and and have this when we go out and we make first responders call. We don't need to take a fire engine out to do it. We can do it with a first responder uh to do things differently. and and you
look at situations that um if Pine Island is working on something that might be in good hability that they're responsible for as well to be able to turn around, they're not going to be able to be at two places at one time. And um I just I I think that um um if it
was a lack of information and calls and everything else, which is what I had heard, um none of that information got to to the people in the township that were making the decision. And I don't know where the ball dropped. I would sure
like to find out. But um I I I think that um we we're really community with what we've got with fire and first responders and the training that we do on a regular monthly basis that we should be able to to handle a lot more
than what we're handling right now. And u I just think that we're we've been cut short without getting the information to them, which is what they had asked for. So, I still don't know where that that breakdown in communication was at. Is there any potential to go back to the
township and sell our case or it's done? I I don't know. I was not at that that meeting. Um I'm hope that uh somebody from township might be listening to this or for us to get a chance to talk to
some other people. Um, I just think that it's it's going to be the community and the people are going to suffer and somebody's going to die and um, I just don't like to see that. Where did the township end up going with then? Pine Island. How much is Pine Island charging
them? Uh, I don't know the exact number. It's over 150,000 a year. Um, that's for township for this. So that's for fire fire. I think 2024 they had 23 fire calls in the township somewhere around there. Um and so we did last year we did
144 medical calls in the township. So they're not charging the township anything then for emergency service. I was at the meeting and they ended up everything's wrapped into their fire department contract. Fire and first
response as one as one contract. So that eventually zero versus our our bid. So So what then would have our our bid had to have been to win this contract? Zero. No.
I I think I think that um I think that if if you or I were we're were we're going somewhere and we're going to to purchase something and one year it was a certain amount, let's say $1,000 and the next year it's $2,000, you know, maybe
we might block at that, you know, so we had asked for 149 for last year and this year we asked for $30,000. Now I can see where that would raise some eyebrows. Um if you look at our budget, our budget's somewhere around
$65,000. Um our calls are the majority are in almost threequarters are in the township, right? Um so was our ask too much? Maybe. Um was it too much of an
increase, you know, right away? Maybe. Um, was there some negotiation that probably could have taken place? Definitely. Um, Dan and I were told that we could not be in the negotiations. So, unfortunately, we don't have the
insight as to what did take place. All we know is we lost it. So, at the meeting too, there was very clear from a couple different supervisors that this is something that would be reviewed annually. And I think
it's, you know, it's it's unfortunate to happen. I can't deny that. I do say that I'm I'm a little concerned from what I heard from everybody that live in the township that there's been no communication to the township. That's that's kind of, you
know, from the township. I'd be concerned about that. So I'm I'll follow up on that. But the point is I think there is some empathy about let's look at it again next year and um see how the next 365 days go. How the township
residents respond to that. Um those are the people along with what spoken here today I think are all very good conversations and you could share with the township as well. So, so it's definitely it's definitely
cut and dried for it's cut and dried for the sticker. It's it's definitely it's a cut and dry deal. There's no there's no going back. I think though if this is the goal, ultimate goal, right? The engagement along the journey of of next
year I think is going to be vital. So again, not just we didn't get it for the year, but how do we support? How do we show up to the township? How do we advocate? How do we show? I mean, I know you won't have numbers, but I I do think like that that engagement through 2026
is going to show a lot of impact if we're still there and present and whatever 2027 will look like, right? You know, we're going to continue the the high level of care that we we give that we've given to both the city and
the township. you know, as you can see with our our highly trained staff, um, you know, good response times and quality equipment. We're going to continue to do that. And and I think that I'm sorry. So, is it correct that you will still respond to high nine
fire calls as far as supporting firefighters? It will not will not be required because that wasn't discussed. It's just the first responders, right? They are now their first their first responders. They are their own first responders. Yeah. Will they have That's
what mutual aid though. So mutual aid can come come in play. It's more on the fire side than it is for medical. Um but we could we could be called for both. You know, there's also a change that was done if you look at what we invested in
as a city for the the new truck that we have for the first responders and also for what we have for engine number two. you know, we've we've come up a long ways from what it was even two years ago for what we've got
right now and the training and everything that's going on. And we've developed, I think, a first class operation that there is that that we're they're looking at us in the past instead of looking at us with with what we are today and what our capabilities
are today. And that's a shame, you know. So, um, I'd like to even if we could invite them and the other supervisors to to come take a look at our fire hall and see what's what's really there or go and see what we have for medical stuff and
how we work it. You know, I I think that we're we're really a much better run organization than what they realize. some visibility, some, you know, um more transparency, you know, um even
even for even for from first responders and fire department to the city council, you know, I'm looking at in the future to be even more transparent, you know, um more of an update, not just we had two calls or we had four calls or we had 12 calls. Um more to, you know, yes, we
had these calls, but here's also what we're up to. We hosted a CPR class. We trained 12 people in the community. We, you know, we hosted this and we or we had, you know, the the Girl Scouts from Pine Island come in and tour our our facility, you know, things like that. So, is it the way our way the show is
run here or is it or is it just the money? No, I think that that's a good question, Paul. And I did I did ask that and they said it had nothing to do with our um quality of care. That's kind of Okay.
It's that's harder too. Yeah. So they're they're you know from their perspective they're responding to the township residents and the same time the the residents can respond to the service too. So do you have a township? What kind of
township outreach do you have throughout the year? Do do we have a whole lot going on at Gold Rush? have a lot going on at um National Night Out. There's something you feel like is heavily utilized by township residents to be
able to put that bug back in their ear and say, "Hey, you know, we're not responding to your calls anymore, but maybe we should be and here's why." So, um, we all of our, you know, our TPR classes that we that we host, you know,
we open it up to the city and the township, um, because, you know, they're in our service area, right? Um, National Night Out, um, not National Night Out, um, Fire Prevention Week, same thing. Like, it's it's open to anyone, right? We just Rochester does the same thing.
They just open their their stations to everyone regardless of where you're at. So, Yep. And we highlight our trucks and we highlight our people. Um, our social media is also a way that we that we go about doing that. Um, we've like quadrupled our followers in the past few years. Um, so that is and we're on
everything. We're on Tik Tok and Instagram and whatever else. Um, and so, you know, we we've really increased that following and and that's kind of our platform to to share what what we've been up to. Y and we're going to
continue working those channels as well. Is that what you're looking for? Well, I was just wondering how we get because obviously we can't force them to take our contract. Ideally, we would have their fire, right? Um, we can't force them to. So, it's going to be township
residents that are going to have to step up to their leaders and say, "We want Oroono." So, how do we get to those voices that can go to their leaders and say, "We want Oronoo." I mean that's where the power is going to be.
Right. Right. So this this is generally this is all speaking of Oronokco Township and New Haven Township just on the outside of Oronoko. Do we address any of that stuff or is that Pine Island just automatically takes care of all the
New Haven because I know New Haven and Oronco township they've helped purchase the equipment that's in Pine Island. That that's that's the connection, right? There's five townships that supply money. Both townships that do it,
right? But, uh, do we service any of New Haven Township at all? I don't think we do, do Pine Island, right? Well, it's kind of sad because it's like it's about 16 miles over the corner of the township over here from Pine Island.
So, it's 16 or 18 miles to the far corner. So, it's it's quite a ways to go for almost be closer for Rochester to service that than Pine Island or for us to service. Well, I'm just saying we're talking across the Zumbro River 2 miles
on 75th Street. That's closer to Rochester than it is here. Okay. I just have one more bigger comment. I I do think that we need to work on making sure that everyone has the same messaging on things and we're inviting the right subject matter experts to the
table to advocate for ourselves. So, making sure that we're being transparent when when conversations are happening. I think that's not just for this situation, but just broader. And maybe that's something we need to tackle as a committee to make sure that we're all in
the loop, you know, when things are happening and we're bringing in the right experts to be able to back up with data and give them the right runway to be successful. I think that's our job to do and we've we've we've failed them here. Um, so I do think there's an
opportunity that we need to level up that. I think one thing that that that wasn't wasn't talked about um you know unfortunately this boil down to money and and not and not quality of care um and speed but um distance impacts
homeowners um when they're for fire protection with their home insurance right we're currently running on an ISO6 ISO one is the best more like South Metro and Denver is ISO1 they've got billions of dollars to throw at
stuff we don't Um, we're at ISO6. Now, if that's we're at ISO6 within 5 miles of of driving from where our station is. Okay. So, the majority of the township is in that range. Unfortunately, the township is in an ISO 10, which is the
worst, which is the hardest to insure. Some residents that are building have been told they can't be insured or they need to be self-insured because they're in an ISO 10, meaning fire department is more than 5 miles away. There's no water there or has to be brought in and it's,
you know, their their houses would be basically a total loss. So, I don't know if that's been brought up to the residents of the township. You know, we benefit in the city. We benefit from that from our rating. um which is actually probably going to
be the ISO um people. There are two in our state. They're going to in the next six months they're probably going to be walking into our station and saying let's do an update which we Thank you. Thanks for your time. Thank
you Johan. We have um one action under first responders requesting Nick Dan sent the director request Nick Timberman be added to the OFR. So the fire department has a certification need to be first
responders. So I'll make a motion. Okay. Nick to approve for first responder. Paul seconded. Yeah. Any comments, discussion? Seeing none, all those in
favor signify by saying I. I. Opposa, we have a item [Music] 2025-10 to the discussion that started last year. We got to do this donation
first, don't we? that comes 2510 donation second I'll make a motion second pretty quiet okay
So 202 25. Yeah. There we go. Okay. So, in our discussion with the branding program, we were we received EDA received a $10,000 small town grant for
$20,000 budget. And so what this resolution is covering $5,000 of moving expenditures around within our budget. Take the $5,000 from salary and W and wages and applying it to our
contract labor $5,000 to cover the 5,000 that we committed to 15,000. We'll cover the donation by bragging here in just a minute, but This is a motion to move those budget funds around. So
make a motion to approve that. Daniel, you guys already did it, right? Okay. I didn't know you were. All in favor signify by saying I got to be a vote. Voice vote. I'm sorry. Sorry. Mayor
I. Council member Phillips. Hi. Council member Peter. Hi. Council members member. Hi. and council member. Next item is resolution 202510 or -1 with the acceptance of a donation to
the city of Oroco by Dragon Koshi. Is that correct? Yes, sir. Okay. So, um, this is a resolution identifying that and putting into the
city record for that funding. I'll make a motion to approve it. I'll second, mayor. Oh, excuse me. Yes. I thought you were ready for your voice. Thank you, sir. Yes. Thank you very much. Did you see a copy of the
resolution? There's a copy of the book. Um, I'd like to make sure you see that copy as well. So, I know there was um I can just read it here too. One of the wherees was the uh the donor
knows and understands that this donation is being made of their own accord and will not be considered or otherwise influenced in any way future plans and decisions of the city to the benefit of the donor. Whereas the city council finds this is appropriate to accept the
definition donation offered. So, all right. Uh, no other comments. We'll do a voice vote. Mayor, hi. Council member Phillips. Hi. Council member Pender Ratz. Hi. Council member Swing. Hi. Council member Riceer. Hi.
So with that, um, one of the items that I added, um, is regarding the branding contract with Tulip Tree Marketing. And now that we have the funding, I make a motion to, um, approve the branding
contract with Tulip Tree Marketing from Steuartville. Do we have any paperwork with that at all? Sorry. Do we have any paperwork with that? I don't see I don't see anything. Nothing here. It was discussed at last meeting about the contract and No, I I know that. I just
thought that we'd have some No, it's just a matter of the formality so EDA can start to work with the cont the quote that was given to us by two tree earlier. You make the motion. Did I hear a second? I had a I'll second. Daniel,
thank you. Let me just make sure in minutes that we're pulling that forward, right? that can we make sure in minutes that we're pulling that contract forward to May that tulip tree estimate just in minutes that we're pulling that yes yes
definitely that's a good point thank you agree there's no other comments all those in favor signify saying I I oppos approve. Parks and
trails. Now we have a new member that's come forward. His name is Lee Berg. Bergam. I make a motion we approve him for the parks and trails committee. Second, Jim. Thank you. How are you getting all these recruits?
I said, how are you getting all these recruits? You have city water and sewer now parks. Like all right, just fine. I'm going to need you to go shake a sign for P&Z soon. I walk around that board. Okay. We offer
snacks. I don't know. Yeah. Is there snacks or There are no snacks. There should be. Any other comments? See none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. I.
March may also talk about and Marie maybe you want to address this. Yeah. Um so this was another ad. So we are looking to um work with the age friendly of Minnesota. They have a grant um to be able to do some of the park audits that
we've done. We have a good return on the survey monkey. I think the last I looked there was like 35 of them and then I have a staff here that need to be entered. So, a really great um engagement with our residents of just what maybe some of our parks are lacking and where we think about it from a
strategic perspective. There is money within this grant to be able to use um about 24 to maybe 2700 um to look at what it would cost to pave the Riverwood Park trails as well as
paving Orno Park from the parking lot to the gazebo. So, we want to use that grant to um have some Stantech assessment of that so we can get that moving forward. So, I don't know if that
like in that range if that would cover an assessment of costs and then what like little figure with the cost estimate. Um yeah, it's fairly straightforward. we we would just do that on an hourly basis, but we that's enough money to do that
little bit of work for sure. And so, um, they approved us from the state to to use those funds to get some assessment. And then what parks and trails will do is look at all of the priorities for the year and then understand, you know, whatever the cost is, what that looks
like from a budget perspective. And maybe it's a three or five year plan, but right now we don't know what it's going to cost. So using some of the grant money to figure out that um is going to be key. Make a motion. I'll make a motion to approve the use of age friendly
Minnesota to get some scient parks trail as well as the orno park from the parking lot to the gazebo. Second. No, Daniel. Thank you. So as as a followup to the park audits that the parks do under age friendly
with parks um that list of needs, wants, must I'm not sure how you explain it, but so hopefully that drive some of the decision towards how we want to use the funds there too. So
for which items we want to which projects we want to approach I guess. So so just the money's there whenever we decide to use it whenever we give you direction I guess on what we want to do. Do you want me to move forward with this now or do
you want to wait? We can use it. Yep. And then maybe break the cost estimates up into parts. Maybe even Yeah, I would do like Riverwood Park and then the Orco separate. You want to maybe even break Riverwood Hills up into parts like trail
segments. So you you know if you you only have so much money you could maybe maybe that would be have over there. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Let me know in the local park. We talked about a pave land from
this the oval to the shelter was an idea. Yeah. Or to the gazebo in our local park. Do you have like a vision of what that would look like? I'm a little foggy on that. Yeah, I can get you some. Apparently, it's not paved. So, like
from like a I can take a picture and send it. Maybe Kane, do you know? Yeah. We can get you some. Yep. And then I can work with you. They just require some like so or would pay for it
and then they'll the grant will reimburse them so we can get that paperwork figured out too. Sure. Riverwood Hills is, you know, we have those. Hey, that's not done. So, is that in Riverwood Hills, too,
where that drain field is? It goes through there. It goes through there. Yeah. You're talking about the trail down to there. It's There's like multiple trails. Two houses that go down there. Yes. A little segment connects to the Drake
lift station asphalt ends. Another one goes up the side view and the other one goes up the mountain views or valley view valley. Y that one's a little tricky because there is that drainage ditch that it comes down that's not paved and it gets real muddy real quick.
So I mean you'll you'll see it but we knew it wouldn't cover everything but we thought it definitely has the donation to starting yeah activity. So we can't use that funds for that grant funds. we can't use for equipment or actually doing, but we can use it for
assessments. We can use it for audits. We can use it for some of those things. So, the grant's pretty specific of what we can use. So, we can't use that money for buying new park equipment. So, we figured that if we can use it for assessment costs, let's do it.
Any other comments? See none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I page four streets and roads. Um, don't get one more pickle. Oh, pickle
ball. Sorry. Yes, you brought it up. How would you miss a note? Pickle ball court. Yes. Different colors. So, um yeah, we wanted to get approval to paint well for Oro Park. Um
they have the tennis court, the the tennis court or river park, sorry, the tennis tennis net needs to be replaced. Um there's some big holes in it. Um there's a like a backboard that's got a big significant hole in it. So, if you're practicing tennis by yourself,
your ball's going to go right through it. So, and then they also want to be able to take um the tennis court and paint a pickle ball in it um so that people can use that. They'll have to bring their own net um but but just having some lines painted in there. So,
parks and trails approved that to move forward to fix the net to fix the hole and do some painting. So, we're going to need some of Kane's time to help do those things. Um so, I think there's already pickle ball painted. They wanted
two two two individual ones. Yep. I think the one that's painted apparently is not regulation. So they want to make sure that it's that's not Yeah, that that's not regulation. Um and we won't provide the net pickle ball net. They'll have to bring their own.
Yeah. Yep. Um so have you been down to that pad at all? I have. very um pitted rough. Um so how much I mean how much does it cost to I I had a
little conversation with Kane the other day about this actually and was like how much does it cost to paint it would it be more beneficial to resurface that and put some leveling down before painting?
Um, and should we not put the cart before the horse, so to speak, on like re actually redoing or helping that area out maybe in a year to come versus uh paint and have to remove the
paint and and do the resurfacing. So, um, put it on for next year's budget and work it that way. Well, I think that what So, what do you think it would cost to paint two of those? Because you you were having you had a good idea that you
can you can actually buy the the lines online, right? Yep. You can bring your own net lines, bring your own equipment. Uh, you know, one thing I would caution is that instead of sticking more money into that surface
and that park that floods regularly, I would I would tend to think that if you're going to level or do a sport cord or a material, a new finish on something to do it on something that is not going to
be flooded and not going to be that's just an idea, not constantly. at at right out here. That's just a thought. I'm just thinking long term. If you put 5 $10,000 into that port and it
floods, I mean, that'd be a shame. So, this is this would also be something we would have to contract out because you don't have the equipment to paint those lines. No, I I I can't get that accurate. Don't Okay. He would be in an uproar if I
painted the live. Okay. This isn't bad out here for what we've got out here in in this part just to put one out here cuz that's level, you know, and everything it doesn't flood. All the basketball. I haven't been out on the on there. Well, yeah,
but the hike during the winter time, you're not going to be doing anything. I think I think again, you know, parks and trails, we're thinking about what is our plans. I think there's probably an opportunity to maybe go back and say where is the prime location for pickle
ball? I know everyone wants one, but maybe we need to think about that. I mean, I think Pine Island has a really cool idea that they have it enclosed if we're doing the is right there in Trail Head Park. Tennis for tennis court. Yep. They have
a They have it multi-use, right? It's pickle ball, it's tennis, it's the ice rink in the winter, it's all enclosed. I mean, I But again, that comes with a cost. So, if it would cost like would it be would it be beneficial to maybe tape
those lines because they make cork tape? Um, and if we're talking contracting somebody for a few thousand dollar to paint versus, you know, paint tape or even the
line kits are are under $100. The surface is in very good shape to start with, right? No, we would have to like I would imagine there will be some volunteers that would would go out help clean it up and and then put down the court
tape. Is it is it kind court today. Yeah, I imagine they are. Um, but using the community tennis net, I would imagine is what they're doing. Which the tennis net is removable, so they could
bring their own net for that as well. Okay. Could you get a quote for us from Durst? Yeah. Now, you told me one time you wanted to build your own painting machine, too. Yeah, I would
like my own. Yeah, absolutely. So, they have these carts with the cans, too. They're about $160 a piece. 95 off Amazon. So, I just if I do that, if I paint lines there for pickle ball,
it's not it's not a professional service. I mean, it's not a professional league. You guys want the Cadillac, but you're getting the golf cart. You know what I'm saying? I think you're selling yourself. And look at all the lines that we paid
for gold rush for $1,000. I think we can go we can go back to parks and trails and just say, you know, what's the long-term vision? Is it the right location? We're gonna need some work on the the I think that needs to be the discussion before we start uh
circling our ideas here because River Park you can park about three vehicles, right? Biggest parking lot in town though right out here. I think it's better to use probably better pickle ball courts if you can only park three cars there. Everyone wants pickle ball.
Exactly. So, I I just think we need to be more uh long-term minded here what we're going for. You better have to paint the parking lot with a pickle ball court on it down there. I like pickle ball. I really do. I'm not going to go to River Park to play pickle ball.
Right. The competition. The neighborhood theme here. Right. If you live in Riverwood Hills, I doubt you're going to travel across town to I could be wrong. Well, this this goes into the what Jason's asking us to look at one, three year, five year, 10 year
plan. Yeah. And unless we do this um striping a river park at the minimal whatever cost that is, right? The next step is to be part of a comprehensive plan. I think we're trying to find like a easy low budget solution. But again,
if it's pitted and it's So if if we're already if people are already bringing their own net, why don't they just bring their own lines? It comes in a kit. Daniel, you've seen it. Yep. It comes in a kit. The But you can get court tape for just as much. I
mean, I would imagine that there's going to be people that would volunteer to go out there and put more attention into it than than a lot of people would. and and tape their own. Like I don't have a issue at all with putting some tape down on
there, I think. And court tape should last uh a few years, which could get us um and then you have to worry about taking it in and out of like a nap knack box and storing it or bringing it with you. I think that's totally reasonable
is to to get some at least tape on there and or if we volunteers allow them to do it. We can take it back and and just see I mean if if we're thinking of tape I mean are there other avenues or parks that we want to think about doing that
versus that one? I would I'd love to see a big length of vision. Why don't we table this and we'll go back to the parts and get a little more definitive and maybe talk to Daniel about this update. This cork tape is that stuff. What is it? Something you can pick back
up the maple tape tomorrow. No, when you put it down, it stays down. It's like a concrete tape. It'll stay. It'll stay for a while. Like the line It's like the tape lines you put down the middle of the highway. Put the tape down. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Let's move on to streets
and roads. So in the packet there was a memo from Joe about a we talked about this at the last streets and road our streets and roads committee that we met
here maybe three weeks ago and we looked at the streets roads drove around um good discussions and we got back to something that was brought up back in probably 2013 or 2014. 14 not having
a pavement management program. And so the thought was that we should maybe recon consider doing that again because we do have four miles of new road from the sewer project, but we need
to get into a routine of and put it into our CIP or one, three, five year program to really look at our streets in general. and something we so that's what we asked Joe to put together with this memo a plan and what that plan could
excuse Joe if you want. Yeah just real briefly you know the city has about 21 miles of roadway that represents you know literally tens of millions of dollars in infrastructure investment to replace that. And it's important obviously to um maintain those
facilities so they last. Um and there's different ways to do that. And um given the fact that you've got a lot of lane miles of roadway, you've got trails, paved trails, you've got parking lots, different things need to be taken care of. Um and they're all of different ages and
different conditions. And so setting up a pavement management plan that really you know evaluates the existing conditions uh you know what's in most need when was it last impacted um measure those facilities so that you know you know how long all of the
segments are how wide the pavements are how many square feet they are. Um, and then you can apply uh factors to that for different types of maintenance, whether that's crack fill and seal coat or whether that's um millet and overlay
or whether that's a reclaim and repave or whether that's a complete reconstruction. Then there's other things that we should really consider in terms of, you know, do we have drainage issues? Do we have um utility needs within that? We don't want to make
investments in pavements that we know aren't going to be around long term. And so the payment management plan really does that assessment of the existing conditions. Um and it lays out um what
payments we we need to prioritize what payments we probably don't want to put money in because you know maybe they're going to be replaced with the FA phase 1B uh sewer and water improvements. Let's not invest in those. those heavily um and prioritize where you spend your
money and lay out a sequence that we can address all the payments in town on a cycle. So maybe all of the payments in town get um sealcoded or crackfilled at least once every let's say eight years
and it lays that out. And so in 2025 you you have these streets that need attention and this is the estimate for construction and 26 and 27 28 over the next 10 years. So it's a budget tool. It's a maintenance tool. Um it makes a
lot of sense. Cities do this routinely. Uh or no is the only city that at least that we work with in southeast Minnesota that don't doesn't have one of these. Um I recommend that you do it. I think there's value to it from
again spending your money wisely um knowing how to budget for what improvements and and what to budget for these types of improvements. Um I would also say that, you know, you get the most bang
for your buck in street maintenance doing simple things, crack fills, seal coats, they're cheap. Once you start to get into the mill and overlays, the reclaims and the reconstructions, the costs increase by a huge margin and
uh you need to be proactive in terms of maintaining your payments so that they aren't deteriorating faster than they should and you're not having to spend big money on it. But um putting them all into a cycle and
and having a logical sequence in which things are done makes sense. Right now it's more haphazard. We've been able to kind of tie it together every other year for the last 10 years doing seal coast and crack fills. Um but it's it's not a
payment management plan. It's uh every year we get together and look at things and um talk about priorities and kind of revisit this process, but it's it's far from formal and it doesn't help you budget for the next year, the next 5 years, the next 10 years, and you
need that. So, the thought is is that we would put a payment management plan together for you. The estimated cost is about $13,618. We do this work on an hourly basis. If you'd like to do that, we'd be
happy to do that. Um for the city um thoughts, comments, you have a motion to move forward discussion or motion first. You got make a motion and second before we do discussion. So I make a
motion to approve this so we can get to discussion. I know when I was on street, I'll second that. So when I was on the street committee and that we we rode around and we took a look at it and and I know you've got
some pretty good history and then so does Kane on that that stuff that there is. Um I know we kind of held back on that just because of what there was with the sewer project because we know that so much of it was going to be replaced,
you know. But um I know over on on our side that um you know we need some stuff over there desperately and especially if we're going to have more construction going back over there again. We're going to have the trucks back again and it's going to chew up that stuff even worse
than what it is right now. Um, you know, I mean, I I I don't like to spend the money. Uh, but I also understand having a program in place like you're talking about.
um identifies things and I think it is good for the one three and fiveyear plan on looking at that stuff and then having it organized knowing that this is the direction that we're going to go instead of we'll just talk about it next year when we take a ride around next year you
know and I think that this might identify those more specifically of of what's happening and I think it'd be good for us to be able to talk to our residents as well saying okay this is we've we've we've done you have to wait two years, but they'll
know, okay, in two years it's coming, you know, and that helps put them at ease, too, instead of, oh, well, we're working on it. I think that that that would be a good way to do it. So, I think so, too. I think it does, you're right, it does give residents the street in front of me, what's going to happen
two, three, four years from now. But the point too is that, and we did this with Zumbro Hills Road, you know, that was an assessment. I think it was 30% assessment to the residents and the balance is covered by the city. So I think there's opportunities that that will
help I mean assessments are kind of a necessity sometimes but I do think that would help kind of acceler it's going to break down big time. If you drove you saw it it's it's it needs to be done. just one example and we can work with phase 1B those
streets if whatever we decide to do there too. So, but uh I do think it's just having something in front of us and not looking out the car window every year and say, "Well, let's do this. Let's do that." And that's not cool, which is what we were doing. Okay. And
and which work I think we got to You're still going to lean out the window and look, but Well, I think I think we need to have a direction an organized direction of what's going on. Okay. We the money's in the streets and roads for this to be
done. We have 30,000 or 50,000 in our streets budget for this year. So, any other comments or questions? Yeah. So, doing this would probably uh minimize the actual road repairs that we would be able to get to this year.
Well, it is, but I think that Ryland, didn't you make a comment at the end of our last meeting that we had some extra money that was in there that we could use for street support? We're we're uh Jason is looking for Yes, it's there. Well, how it's being used is
question. I thought we had I thought we streets and I thought we had a fund that accumulates each year for streets and we could still do that. That's still that isn't already in place. No, no, because we used everything we had last year for what we needed to do and we didn't have
a lot last year, but we did $30,000 last year. So this year we have 50,000 but but we do want to build that you know our discussion was to build it up every year but since then we've had our one three fiveyear plan discussion so I think that's where it's going to kind of
help and this will help I get guide us that way too so and get the money in the budget right when we come to budget and again it's it's it's talking to our residents when the budget goes up next year that okay this is what we're doing this is
the plan here it is and If you can explain what we're doing, you know, residents are more apt to to swallow the pill, you know. So, or are we allowed to do that? Because last year I wanted last year I
wanted to bring bring money forward from the from the snow plowing from last year to this year because we didn't use it. Are we allowed to take money save money this year and then use it again for next year? Um, that's another discussion we'll have.
I'm serious. I know what you mean. We'll get it. That's your versus But but I do need I do need to point a couple things out. Point something out. Uh letter. No. I No, no, no, no. I'm just
pointing this out because this is this is in the packet, but it's not on the agenda. I added it. Did I add it? It didn't get put on there. Yeah, we got was added. At least
I wrote it down. Yeah, we got a different page for it than anybody else got. Yeah, I didn't get that. So, none of us got that. We were We're working on it. It is in the packet. It's in the
packet. It's uh near the end. I'm on page 54 is where it is for me. But depending on And I don't have any any page numbers on mind that you follow up on. Stand back. Keep going. There it is. So, we have a motion.
Second. Seconded. Is your second? Well, I think it's a it's a council consensus if we act on the on the motion. So, got a motion second. So, it's time for a vote. Vote. Time for a vote. Yes. I just
want to make sure everybody so All right. Do we need to do a voice vote on it? Is it something that No, it's it's not a it's not a resolution. So, just a motion. So, with that, all those in favor of the motion signify by saying I I oppose.
What's your time frame for that, Joe? You think something in July or June? Uh, I would think for sure in July. For sure. Okay, thank you. Unfinished business. Mary Nash, property question. Yeah. Um, they're still going
in and out of uh do not occupy or condemned, whatever it was. It's do not occupy building. They've got uh a structure that that they built after they took down the house. Okay.
and it's not code can't be done but they still use it and there's a camper that's there that needs to be taken out and it's still needs to have that last step that's going on and I know it's a touchy one with with everything that's happened
over there. So is it is it going back or is it going back to a legal issue or Yeah, it has been. CMS has posted it. And I talked to CMS. They said, "We can't do anything except for post it." And they can drive by and you'll see the red posting that's on the door, but they
still come and go and do whatever they want to do, you know. So, they're just basically ignoring everything that's going on. And has an issue with that, huh? Isn't that where you bring home Sonia to help enforce? Well, I again, I don't know
what to do next. Okay. CMS has posted it. We did everything at their end. Then they still do whatever they want. Dr. touch base with Jason and he needs to talk to Mike or Yeah, I think that that's what we're going to have to do is go that next direction again legally and is this
a code enforcement? Yeah. Don't we have a company that does our code enforcement? Yeah. CMS. And they can't CMS has already posted it and they they don't do anything. Nothing else they can do but put it on there that says you can't do it and they're still doing it.
probably shar it's trespassing at that point. Well, there's follow up there. Okay. So, I just wanted to keep that active of what's going on so we don't forget about that new business. We have a temporary liquor
license for the Lions for Gold Rush days. I make a motion to approve that third. We haven't seen the fire department, have we? License for gold rush. I haven't seen it. They haven't done it yet. It hasn't
been submitted yet. No. Okay. Any other comments on the liquor license for Lions? No. I make a motion to approve it. Daniel. All in favor say I. I. I. The next one we took care of.
He always get we consent agenda. Consent agenda. I'll second it. All in favor say I. I. Approve. Motion meeting adjourned [Music]
second was seconds. Don't knock each other out to the Don't each other. I got a couple seconds. Got one and Ryland took it away from me. Wanted to give it to all.
All right. Hey, it takes time. Hey, my ventless training is is paying off because I'm throwing my voice over there. Stop recording. Stop. You got to move your top. You got to go to your zoom. There we go. Stop
recording. Let's see back