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like summer off to a good start for you guys. Yeah, I guessing >> my wife was running for Secretary of State. So >> working since first week in January

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>> Thank you. Sure. It gets to be a long push. >> Different several times. So, just don't touch anything. >> Good. Oh, you're good. >> You got anybody else?

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>> I don't know. He didn't contact me. Uh I knew Mel was doing the the survey, so I don't know her answers were most people. It's like How do you do it? Right. What do you do? How, you know, how do you find out?

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How do you uh get the name out there, message out there? >> Oh, maybe he'll join us in process text. >> There are so many competing interests. You spoke at probably 120 different meetings that they're not

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>> too. >> We're ready. >> All right. Good evening. This is our city council special meeting. It's June 3rd uh to be 26 and we call meeting to order at 6:35. >> Rachel, if you could do a roll call.

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>> Mayor Ryland >> here. >> Councelor Pendergrass >> here. >> Councelor Phillips >> here. >> Councelor Rice Ster >> here. >> Councelor Spring absent. city engineer

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>> and Kane and myself. >> Okay. >> Uh time is our agenda. I make a motion to approve Z's agenda. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Any questions, comments?

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Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. I approve. Public forum will open at 6:36. So our public forum is a threem minute time limit per person. The city council welcomes encourages participation from

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community members. Please keep in mind that your comments must be to city business and must adhere to data privacy rules. No employees names may be used. Please do not expect action from the council this evening regarding your concerns. to address the city council during public forum. Please step up to

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the podium and state your name, address, and fill out the form that's provided. Speakers will be recognized only once. You will be timed. Beginning with the green card is raised. Yellow card indicates you have 30 seconds left and the red card indicates you have reached

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a three minute time limit and must stop. So with that, if you would like to speak, uh, come to the podium and if you haven't filled out a time card or a time card, white card, you can share that with array of the

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records. >> Did you want this? >> Yes. Thank you. >> My name is Randy Peterson and um I am here regarding my neighbors, but I see that that is on the agenda. Um I live at 105 3rd Street Southwest or no go and um

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I again I see that it's on the agenda so I will attend that when it comes and that's it. Thank you. >> A second call for public forum. >> Is there anybody on Zoom that would like to speak at public forum?

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Seeing none, third call for public forum. See none, we'll close public forum at 6:38. Mike there tonight. >> Mike is not available. He's got family

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commitments. Okay. All right. First item is our um law enforcement report. Roger Bren is here, but uh there is no see.

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>> What's that? Don't see him. No. Yeah. He was here. >> Nine reports of traffic stops. That's >> that with lower speed limits time or I'm guessing it is sequ

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that was before this meeting. It was yesterday over here on fifth street that's still 40 mile hours. >> Yeah. I was just wondering if if it's you know in the residential area or the >> Yeah. I wonder how they're coding that because the one above is traffic

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enforcement versus a stop. So I don't know if one speed versus something else at home. >> What's the difference between on our sheet? What's the difference between traffic enforcement and traffic stop? >> Want to get some clarity on that

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>> for next month? I guess two weeks. Okay. Um, moving along on the public works, water and sewer, the water summary that Kane provided you. First item is a motion to approve the

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pit of a LS1 generation tracker device station one memo. There's a the packet from Kane pretty

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clear background recommendation request talked about this in the past. I think >> that's what I was wondering. >> Yeah. >> Does that come out of water and sewer or does that come out of >> sewer? I think that's what the memo says.

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>> You make a motion to approve. >> It'll come out of sewer, Jim. >> Okay. Yeah. I just want to double check. I think it's really important to have that especially on lift station one. >> Yeah. >> No question. It's got to be done. Yeah. >> We'll make a motion to approve the purchase for $3,995.

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>> Second. With Daniel gone, we have to do a voice vote. >> I think we only have to do a voice if he's not if he's on Zoom. >> Only if he's on Zoom. >> Isn't that how that works, Ryland? >> We only have to do a voice vote if he's on Zoom.

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>> We do voice votes for uh resolutions and ordinances. This is just a general motion. >> Someone is absent, you have to do a voice vote. >> I thought it was, >> but it's okay. We'll go forward. I'm pretty sure. But

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>> Oh, Daniel's on the >> No, >> he's not coming tonight. No, >> if >> he's not online, we don't need to do a voice. >> Okay, perfect. Perfect. I'm good with that. >> This is just a motion, right? >> I understand. But >> well, if he was on there, yes. If >> he was on here, we would have to do a voice.

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>> Okay. So, he's not on the M. So, it's just a regular straight vote after discussion. Uh any other comments? Is there something needs to be done? >> Was there a timeline? So that might be a

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>> uh within a month, I'd say. >> Any other comments? See? None. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Next item is a motion to approve employment of wastewater operators. Signing operators

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>> 13. >> Page 13 packet. There's a memo from Kane discussion. I'll make a motion we approve what Kane is proposing. Signing operators.

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Hey, would you like to speak to that? There's any questions from council members regarding the plan, why we're doing this, the timing of it. >> Well, the timing the timing of it has to do with our contracts up at the end of the year. So, somebody needs to be need

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to have somebody in place while we have the opportunity to do it. Yes, >> it's a minimal pre describe what the timeline with the MPCA of having something in in place 30 days. So you want to talk about the timeline between July and August.

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>> Yeah. So so my request tonight is uh to not go through with an RFP or an RFQ process. Uh these two operators I've been working with the last three years. Uh big big time relationship. We've been uh uh communicating for three full years

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and uh this is where they want to be and I want them here and I think they're the the best choice for our facility. Uh 2A operators with a lot of knowledge about SBR facilities. Uh they're local, somewhat local, but uh the key takeaway

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here is that uh they're allowing us to manage, run, maintain, and uh have a presence at the facility. something we don't really have right now with people's contracts. So big big move for us in the right

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direction where we can get control of that facility and our and our costs and uh eventually all of our staff will start working towards those higher licenses and uh but this is just a formal request to the council that we will not be moving

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forward with an RFP or an RFQ. >> Great question. Are are those two guys going to help train our people? >> They are. They are. That is that is one of the first things we we talked about was training getting our staff to a minimum level and then uh uh further

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licenses as as experience increases. So >> I know it takes the time which is the main thing that there is behind but but as long as they're going to help train. >> Yep. >> You know which would be great. So >> So back to the the timeline here. We need to let uh our current uh operators,

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people service, we need to let them uh give them a written notice by August 30th. So, getting this future contract in in our hands, getting it approved, getting it revised by the city, coming to an

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agreement, getting that before August 30th 30th is the key. So tonight's motion will put the contract kind of in draft form. Once we receive it, there'll be some negotiation between us and the

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operators and eventually council will approve a new contract and uh the effective date there is uh December 1st, 2026, but we do need to let them know with a

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written notice by August 30th. So, the 120day notice. >> Yeah, that that was we Yeah, we worked on that from the original contract with them to be able to do that. >> Yeah, specifically in the contract it says written notice by August 30th. So,

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we can do it at any time once we have a a contract in place with our new operators. So, >> is there a turnover time that there is that both of them have to be there or they can just step in right away with, >> you know, they're they're probably going to be on site uh this fall. uh the

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closer we get to that December 1st date, they'll be on site a little bit more and more, but uh the contract will spell out some of those details and how we do that transition and trade off. >> Right. >> I'm confident it'll it'll be a good transition.

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>> Well, I think it that's what we've been trying to do from day one. >> From day one. Yes, sir. >> That's great. >> Other comments? All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Thank you.

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>> Next item is uh just a council report a memo 14. Council have read your activities. Any questions there? you have questions.

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Next item is the fire relief and this is regarding to regarding our resolution 26-12 charitable contri distributions from the typical gambling page 16.

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I make a motion uh to approve charitable distribution from the 10% gambling fund. Second pass that >> this is um this is the distribution of the first

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quarter we're talking about distribution and acceptance of the distribution. Yeah, except the distribution after that. >> There's nothing mentioned about what's to be.

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>> Well, there about page 19 or page 23. >> Page 16 is what we're talking about though >> of those gambling funds that we've collected so far. It's it's on page nice scene as the test said uh to go for the

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AE which is the same as what's over in the fire is page 19 and then page 23 uh goes for the for the lettering but there is some

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uh the the details of rescue one >> there's we have two requests I guess >> yeah the one for which is for the >> first distributing funds right >> got to go where it's going to go so

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>> 12 is the use of the first quarter >> 10% $3,39.36 >> right So as we do that resolution, that's where we need to have council decide what we're going to use the funds

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for. We got two requests. I understand there may be other council requests, too. A some um decals for the fire rescue one, I think it is. >> Yeah. So the AET is approximately

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$3,000. Okay. And then uh the other would be go towards the decals which is the which the remaining amount that we have there was more than that what the costs were but the remaining amount of that whether it be $39.36

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would go on the decals. I think the AED really provides a real good community support. Oh, absolutely. >> Community center. Um

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in the fire report, fire department report there was they talked about donations from private citizens funded by new and fire relief association for engine two brush one brush two

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rescue one. The other question I have is the AED. Uh I'm looking at there's a on page 16 of the memo. >> That is a memo from the administration

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regarding some of the uses and some of that are not to be used for. One item that can't be used for is equipment or training for public safety related services. That's when payments made directly to the vendor.

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Funds may not be used for political purposes, pension contributions or general city operation. >> So the other one is yeah the equipment for training for public safety. A a I I see that as being equipment for

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public safety services general public. It's made directly to the vendor >> and that's what Mel has agreed that that's that fits perfect to what it is. >> The Yeah.

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>> Yeah. >> That's a public safety thing. >> Oh, absolutely. >> The decals uh could be, you know, it's it could be considered city operations or not. put decals on a city vehicle.

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So, I'm not sure that would apply, but I do think a is would be a good purpose. I mean, there's this is the first time we've made the effort to identify how we're going to use these quarterly earnings. So, there's plenty of opportunity for other second quarter,

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third quarter, fourth quarter. I think the AED would be my my choice. >> Well, the other one could be contributions to the 501c3, which is what the fire relief is, too. So, >> it's only $39

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>> to pay for the decals. Yeah. as long as he left. It >> says it says it says that it can be used for equipment training and public public safety related services. Well, that pardon your firef public

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safety related services. >> I think the thing that gets me is equipment or training. Not necessarily decals don't have anything from a training perspective or equipment. I mean, I guess it's on equipment, but

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I guess I don't see an issue with paying, you know, using that money for details. I think that's uh something that needs to be done. It needs to be done. And if that's looking at $39, >> I just don't know if we can use those

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fun. Well, this specifically says equipment for recruitment or training for public safety related services. So, this is equipment for or so basically it's equipment. If you needed to buy a fire ax, you could buy a

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fire ax equipment. >> You have anything for $39 you need to buy? >> For $39 for decals, >> any equipment? Why? Why at $39? >> We can't hear.

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>> We only have We only have 30 We only have three thou like 3,000 $96. So 3,000 of it would go to the ID. >> We can only use those charitable donations for certain things. >> So what is the first one going towards?

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>> AED in city hall. >> Community center >> that can be used for you. Is that going outside of city hall so everybody can use it? Is that correct? >> It could be mounted here. >> So, are you saying that the rest of the community can get in here and use that

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AED if needed? >> If if they're in here and they have an issue, >> it's not going to be one that's placed outside. >> No, it's got to be inside city hall. >> Okay. So, then how is that helping the rest of the community if it's in here if they can't get to it? >> No. somebody that's here doing something

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like exercising, senior citizens, >> you know that >> people can get to it. Correct. People can get to it in here if somebody in the community. It's >> not like the neighbor across the streets would be have access to the building

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when nobody's here. No. So, if it was one that was set up outside just like you see anywhere else that you know to take it for an example, um there's there's one in Zamroa. They've got it outside at the BFW. Anybody can

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come and get it and use it. That to me would be more beneficial for our community if it's going to be used for community use. I'm not saying that it's not worth having in here, but I think that's something you guys need to look into. But I think if it's if these funds

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are going to go towards bettering the city, that should be something that anybody from either side of 52 can come and get if needed. >> The only thing I have with that is uh somebody that there is, especially for a $3,000 unit, the minute that they pull that out and start playing around with

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it, that's >> But they haven't set up for a certain reason like that. You guys, I think you guys have actually looked into that before. >> I guess we could talk about placement later. I mean, we're trying to allocate where these funds go. I mean, it's $3,000 regardless of where we

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>> My concern with the funds is it's the way I read it, it says it's not it's for a public safety service, not just for public safety. You're buying it for public safety. It says it's worded for public safety service, which means you'd be buying it for the fire department or first responders, but you're not doing

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that. That's my >> I mean, it's for community safety, >> but control board, but that wouldn't be until tomorrow. >> I guess I guess my my point would be if it's on the outside of city hall and somebody across Highway 52 is needing an

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AED, they're not going to have time run over and get it. >> Well, then that's fine. And then that's when you guys kind of need to decide like if that's going to be for community use, which is not uncommon to see. And I don't know how much you guys really know about this or have looked into it. But you you can have more than one of those

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that just stand out in public and can be used. So you could do one. And there's been talk, you know, what if there was one at the ball field over across 52 and then there was one here at city hall. To me, that's public safety. That's if you're going to use an ad, then use that

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for the rest of the community, not just for in here. You guys could purchase that yourselves if you want one for in here. But I think if it's going to be a community thing, and I realize we're all part of the community when we're in here, but how much are we all in here and there's a number of people

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constantly where you guys could use that to put out there, but still yet I think it should be clarified with the gambling board exactly what it could talk about the AED we were asking. >> I sure can. >> Yeah. some background because I know

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AEDs are I've seen more in buildings than I have outside but this is a community center. >> Yeah. >> Seniors come in here >> have one on >> parties come in here >> on the truck. Correct. So what is your response time if there was a call and

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need for it >> or if it's in the city is >> um so our response time is 3 minutes. >> I'd like to have some

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discussion here, but I'd like to have Kane come up and speak >> for the AEDs. >> Yes. Why did you what was your plan the AED? >> So the city staff all city staff is getting trained to BLS level with AED

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CPR. Uh so all city staff's going to get that level of training. And so the one thing I was thinking is having that AED here at a facility. Uh this would be a good starting point. I would like to get one for the plant. I

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would like to get one for the shop. I think all of our buildings would probably benefit from one at some point, but this would just be starting point here, you know, seniors, rentals, council meetings, late night council meetings, you know,

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>> but then you got to think too like we're not that far away from you guys where if it was somebody who over here in this area could use it and yes, our response time is good, but if somebody, you know, if you're going to have one here. That's

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great. But make it worth for the rest of the community to use it. That's a lot of money. >> I think that's a good comment. I think this is a starting point just like Kane has expressed. I think this is good with taking the time to train staff. So everybody that's

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>> I have nothing to say about training staff. That's on you guys. But I'm saying the use of the money. I think it's great that you guys want to get trained because I think it's really really really important. like super important. >> But what I'm saying is use

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use your guys' funds for your AED in your building, not our funds that are supposed to come back to first response and fire for something that you guys should be purchasing for your building because you guys would have to purchase it for Kane's building, right?

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That wouldn't be us, right? >> So, are we all one city or you know what I'm trying to say? I know, but okay. Let's just wait a second. Just wait. >> So, if you guys were going to buy one for each city building, where would that money come from?

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>> Be budgeted to start with. >> So, that would be the same thing as this. >> Well, sure. Okay. >> We just think this is a good use of it and with staff being trained because it's combination of >> Absolutely. Your staff should be good. >> I think maybe we should put the

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discussion on hold and do some >> I think there needs to be some clarification from the gambling as well. >> We're down to AED or decals on a truck. Is that right? >> And do you have pictures of those decals?

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>> If what's on the truck right now would be replaced. >> I heard they were scratched up or something like that. >> Actually, they're peeling off. Is there my question Ryland is there a timeline when we have to distribute them funds

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>> supposed to be done by the end of the first four year >> before the last day of the first quarter 2026 so that's >> anyway >> I mean we need to allocate these funds right I mean this is last quarter for the $3396

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or 36 So then >> end of March, you know, we didn't have it in March. >> Yeah. >> Well, how can we how can we distribute them funds when we don't know what we've got gotten each month by the end? >> Well, we do. >> We don't. >> Yeah, we do.

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>> No, we don't. We don't have we don't have a meeting after we understand the gambling funds that came in. >> Each month we're bring each month we approve them. If there's a development in there, >> we understand that we approve them each month, but we don't know what the end of

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the first quarter is until you get into April because >> because that quarter ends the the 31st of March, doesn't end at the March meeting. >> I would assume that 30 that 30,000 is through the end of March.

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>> Well, I'm just saying the end of the first quarter is the end of March. We would had to distribute them on the 31st of March. >> Be some more questions. >> Can I make a friendly amendment to the motion that there is?

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>> Sure. That we put this off till we find out what the gambling board has to say about equipment and we'll discuss it at our meeting in June. >> It's in two weeks. So, the gambling board is Minnesota Gambling Board.

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>> Yeah. >> And and Kent can check that out. So, >> well, they can give us a recommendation, but it's the council's decision. >> Well, no. And I'm I'm just trying to figure out if there's your question to find out about that. That that would

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give us, you know, >> if that's an issue, >> if it's an issue, that way we would know. and we're only looking at two weeks to to come back again just to get the issue taken care of so we can move along. >> Yeah. No, I understand that. >> Yeah, we probably need clarity on that

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last bullet of equipment or training for public safety related services with payment is made directly to the vendor. So we'll get some clarity on these uh allowable uses and um they're added to the June

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>> talking about we can bring it back to June. >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. At least we'll not get stuck here in the mud. >> So we're carrying the motion to the June meeting. >> Yeah, >> very good. for research on this table >> that that for the definition of that one

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bullet point >> for the June meeting if you are bringing back and ask for the details can you send us some pictures? >> Yeah, I mean >> absolutely >> I can totally do that.

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>> And then also in your memo, how old are those decals? >> I don't think they're even two years old. Is there any? >> No, >> they weren't done properly to start out with.

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>> That's why all trucks had it done, too. >> Oh, no, no, no, no. The the company that put them on missed the step that there was on how it was done so that they would stay on. >> So, we can't go back and tell them. I just didn't know if there was.

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So, let's uh So, we have a motion. We have a friendly amendment, but really we're just tableing the motion, >> right? I just didn't know since the motion was there, we need to do a friendly one to be able to move on. So, >> make a motion to table it. I'll do it that way then. So, >> I'll second the motion to table it.

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>> Okay. >> Any discussion? So we will table resolution 2026-12 till the June 16th meeting to follow up with the gambling board and also to understand a better

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clarification of the uses. There's further comments. All those in favor signify saying I next meeting. >> Okay. See Next item is a resolution 2026-13 accepting this month's April's gaming

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donations. >> I'll make a motion to accept the $319.94. >> Second questions. Voice vote, please. >> Councelor Phillips. Hi. >> Uh, councelor uh pedigress.

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>> Mayor Ist. >> Hi. >> Councelor Riceford. >> Hi. >> Approved. So, so the next item is a motion to approve the purchase of a automated external defibrillator. >> We've already done that one. >> We just

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>> that was tied into the resolution. >> Yes. Okay. Uh, first responders, make a motion to approve. Uh, go ahead, River.

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>> I'll second that. >> All in favor? >> Any comments or questions? Seeing none. All those in favor sign I. >> I. >> I. always get something she wants to say. >> I just wanted to let you guys know that

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I didn't see in the packet was um my minutes on training and calls >> down at the very bottom. >> It was the consent agenda. >> It's on the >> It's in consent.

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>> It's in consent. >> It's the very last one. >> Okay. I was like cuz I was looking for it through all the like other stuff. So I was like I don't see it there. >> Good. Okay. when he did the packet. >> That was the the packet was redone. >> No, when was the packet redone?

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>> It came in this afternoon, this morning. It's on the agenda, but she filled out, >> right? Okay. >> That was in the June or that was this morning's packet. >> That's mean coming as a packet today. Yes. Yes. Two pages to the packet.

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We do need to vote on the new director and assistant director. >> I make a motion to approve the director which is Kobe

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and um and Caleb. >> It's in the memo. Oh, >> on page 22, excuse me. the motion. >> You made the motion to approve. I'll

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second it. Then I do have a comment. I sees that packet that was posted online at the driver's license and personal information of this applicant. So, I guess >> I caught that today and fixed it and put

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it on the internet correctly, but that wasn't that was a mel thing that I didn't catch before. I didn't notice that she had the data, >> but I did see it today. So, >> oh, >> I think I think the one thing I just

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want to call out is that within first responder and fire, we look to both of you to help mend bridges and not segregate between across the street and city council. And so, looking to both of you and your new leadership positions to

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help reinforce what needs to be reinforced even when it's hard. Um, we're all a collective team. We're here for our city and would appreciate the leadership direction on those as well. It doesn't it doesn't need to be as hard

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as it's been in the past, right or wrong, whatever. We're all on the same team and we need to all be able to share that moving forward. I've been in situations personally that I don't care to repeat and there just needs to be some mutual respect on both sides. >> And I agree. I've been in those same

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situations I don't care to repeat either. Same thing you're talking about. So I do look for that to come from you guys as well and just as much much transparency as you're asking from us that it comes from you guys as well and we expect the mending bridges too

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because we can't be giving and not giving back or vice versa. So I expect that as well >> and did you >> any comments? >> Favor of the motion to director signify saying I

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>> I approve. Congratulations. >> Thank you. >> Okay. I think ready for streets and roads. We got this other letter in hereing the gambling profits for the 10%.

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>> Really quick, guys, can I add in? Did you guys vote on our new member as well? >> We already did. >> Oh, you want to turn the air conditioner off? We can probably hear a little bit better. I like

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>> everybody likes >> they don't like >> they want the home and so we can't hear what they're saying >> for streets and roads um has a a memo and a lot of detail No,

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I didn't see a motion. There's a motion for the crack view, but I don't see a motion for the making sure make a motion, but >> yeah, we really have we have two projects that uh we receive bids for. Uh

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the first is the 2026 street and pathway improvements. >> Make a motion. I'll make a motion we approve the roadway and pathway improvements. >> I'll second it. >> Okay.

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>> Uh just a little discussion. We opened bids for the 2026 uh street pathway improvements project on May 12th. Um we received a number of bids from I guess four contractors. The low bid contractor

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uh was Durst Outdoor Service. They had a total uh bid of $79,466.84. Uh the second low was pretty close to that at $83,200. Uh the engineers estimate uh for the

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improvements was about $104,343. So we did get good bids. uh they were underestimate and uh that perhaps provides us with some flexibility in terms of um you know maybe doing some work that we didn't necessarily

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anticipate doing before. Um and the second piece of the puzzle we'll get into in a minute, but the seal coat bids uh were opened as well and there's a letter in your packet and you saw that they came in well under budget too. And so, um, one thing that occurs to me is

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that, well, a number of things here occur to me. First, if you want to award the bid for the, uh, crackfill or for the, uh, pathway and street improvements and you want to award it to Durst, you can certainly do that, uh, for, uh,

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$79,466.84. The other thing that needs to be said here is you don't need to award to the low bidder. um if you don't want to. That said, you know, Durus has done work here in town and there's no reason to think that they can't do a good job for

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you. Um one other point here, um this project include included a couple pathway or couple street repairs that we talked about last month. Um, and it also included uh pathway improvements in Orno

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Park as well as one of the two segments of pathway in Riverwood Hills Park. Um, the Riverwood Hills Park segment um costs about $25,515.

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There's a second segment that could be done there. It's almost identically identical in length. There's a few things that um might need to be done in addition to that by the contractor, but I would estimate that, you know, it's

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probably a $30,000 improvement if you would want to do the second part and then all of the pathways in Riverwood Hills would be paved um as well as the pathway in Orno Park. And you know, kind of just doing my math on the budgets, it

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looks like between the seal coat project and the um pathway and street repair project, there is, you know, somewhere around uh 55 to $60,000 under budget and that pathway improvement projects about 30.

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>> I got a quick question for Joe. Okay. how you're handling Riverwood Drive which continues to go downhill and there's still there's been that one simple little patch that was put on it. There is nothing and we have got to jump on that

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one right away. That's that's a a major >> and you're issue and >> you're right and Kane Kane and I can both address that. I know that Kane ordered materials and those materials total $11,438.

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I did include that into my little budget summary. I don't know what the status of those materials are, Kane, and when you your team might be able to do that work, but I know you're working on it. >> So, I I did want to get council's approval for for those materials. It is it is some money like Joe said around

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11,000. Some miscellaneous tools we would need. Uh I'm right at about 12, let's call it 13,000 for uh for what we need for public works to do those repairs on Riverwood Hills Drive. >> I mean that's got to be done. I mean

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that's and and that's more important than the pathways. >> Absolutely. So >> So there's funding in the 100 fund, our local tax dollars. Uh there's funding for those repairs. >> I just want to make sure that we're not letting that go into pass instead of the street. One thing I'm pointing I'll

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point out though is there's money within CIP as well. We budgeted CIP money for for streets too. So there's two buckets of money we could take from to do Riverwood Hills Drive. So keep that in the back of your mind. But Joe and I do have some other areas that we would

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possibly tackle with these notused funds. Right. So, one idea we had was uh crack filling Minnesota Avenue, you know, uh asking our contractors, our

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crackfill contractor to Joe, you'd probably issue a change order and you would say we want to do Minnesota Avenue or certain several streets and we'd get more bang for our buck. And you did get great prices on

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the seal code and crackfill um improvements. So you're you're getting good value for your money if you choose to do that. >> No, I I believe in the value. I just I'm I'm just want to make sure we got the things covered that we really need to

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get get covered. Okay. >> Also, the paths have that $65,000 NCIP. So that we're off about $2,000. Um, and we're asking the Lions Club, they have a 2,00 donation limit with Oronoko Park. So, if they're willing to

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pony up that, too, then it should be covered by CIP and their donation for all the paths. >> No, I I I'm with you on doing that. I just don't want to miss the roads and the seal codes important, but that's >> No, no question. I think it needs to be clarified that the the Riverwood Hills

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is just it's a patching with material. It's not any type of mill overlay or >> Right. Right, right, right, right. No, I'm I'm with you on that. I just didn't know where it was at because I I we had talked about it, Kane, you and I had >> Yeah, we we were going to bring this up

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to the uh May council meeting and get uh some direction from council. Uh and uh so tonight's that night. And it is a little bit of money. It's over my spending threshold. So, I did want to get this council's approval to move forward with that $13,000 in in

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materials. Is there anything we need for a motion on that to to move ahead with that that you put in there? So, >> we have one motion already take care of our >> Okay. >> And pathway improvements. I >> Okay. >> Unless we want to add.

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>> So, the 79,000 is just the path. >> It's the pathway and the two road the pathway and the two parks. So, two pathway segments and two road repairs. So take 65,000 off of that because we would pull that from that CIP fund for

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the um pass to be paved. >> I see West Center. >> The 79,000 is for the one West Center pavement repair. Third Avenue and that's the two streets and then paving

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Riverwood Hills >> and Oracle Park. >> Yeah, there's two pathway segments in Riverwood Hills Park. One is the larger pathway and then we had like a 50 foot stub into the playground that um we we did separate because it's a little

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different construction process. So, if if council wants to do the Riverwood Hills Park from the playground to is Mountain View Road, >> Valley, >> Valley View, Valley View, >> we should add that to the motion to make sure it's documented.

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>> We would have to add that by a change order and I could bring that back to you, but I'm kind of thinking that the cost to do that is um you know, somewhere between somewhere around $30,000. Uh, and of course there's a little bit of engineering costs, you

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know, maybe another $5,000 to prep the change order and the plan and then do some construction services for that. So, you know, another $35,000 total would get that segment of path done. Uh, and it does look, at least in my view, that there's

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>> this is all stuff we already have in the budget, right? Or this stuff. So, we want to make sure that everything that's being discussed here that Joe and Kane have put together is all within the bounds of our CIP fund and also the parks trails to the 65,000. We're not

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going over that dollar figure. It's just that there's a lot of opportunities to take care of the paths that we've wanted to do and with the change order. We could finish Riverwood Hills, we could do or park and plus the street. So the only thing we haven't talked about,

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we'll talk about that later or in the next motion is the crack failing for Minnesota. >> So I just want to correct you a little bit on the paths the the trails. We are a couple thousand over, but I do think Lions Club could either cover that cost or even parks and trails has a $2,000

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budget just for miscellaneous things. I think they would be willing to donate that, too. So we would things would be budgeted appropriately to get those paths paved. Has the Lions Club determined that they're going to pay us $2,000 or donate $2,000 or have they

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decided they're gonna >> give services? >> Yeah, I asked >> I don't prove that. >> I asked >> my my my point is is have they determined that they're going to give the 2,000 to the city or are they going to give the time?

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>> Yeah, I asked Steve about this. Um he hasn't gotten back to me. Either way, if if they say no, again, Parks and Trails has $2,000, it would cover with with that CIP fund, we'd like, you know, if they're going to adopt the park that they chip in, especially because that's

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almost 13,000 on its own. >> But if they decide they want to do something different, I mean, there's still some budget that we could use within that parks and trails. >> I just want to clarify have have determined >> No, not yet. >> Which way they're going to

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>> which way they're going to go. No. >> So we really don't know that there's enough to cover it though. >> Yeah. >> Anything else, Joe, that you want to touch base on the >> So yeah, I I >> assume we want to just kind of take it one motion at a time. The first one,

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let's do this motion. Yeah, >> got a cop. I I was just going to add council that uh we budgeted 65,000 for parks and 224,000 for streets and roads. So 289,000

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is the maximum number. We do not want to go over. I think that's kind of what Ryland was saying is we we're going to stay within that. We're not going outside of CIP. So thank you. Thank >> um any other comments regarding the

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street and pathway repairers. >> All I know is parks and trails was really excited about these bids coming back. >> Yeah. >> Within kind of what we put away for this year. >> More excited than parks.

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>> We're all excited. That's amazing. >> Yeah. All right. Um there's no other comments. All those in favor you making the change order. >> So that is what you're asking is you want to award to um Durst for the 79,000

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um $466.84 and you want me to pursue a change order for that second pathway segment. Um and I'm saying that's going to be around $30,000. I'll bring the change order. That'll give you the exact um dollar amount. and that, you know, you'd also

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approve $5,000 for Stantech to essentially add this to our budget and do the work. >> I'm just quite a range of quotes every from 79,000 to

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>> stop. It is. And the seal coat one's even more dramatic. >> Yeah. All right. Any other comments on that? Seeing none, all in favor signify by saying I. >> I >> I post.

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>> Okay. Where are you going to put in the other for your 13,000 that you need to have? Where are you going to put that one in? >> I've got that in streets and roads funds. We budgeted that for >> So, do we need a motion for that for you to move? >> I would like a motion. You know, it is

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over $1,500. So, I'd like a motion to move forward with uh $13,000 in repairs uh done by public works staff >> for Riverwood Hills Drive. >> Motion for you to be able to get the 13,000 or whatever it is to be able to

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get the patchwork for Riverwood Drive. >> I'd second that. >> What What fund can you take it out of? >> It's going to be uh street maintenance under streets and roads. There's only two line items there. street electricity or street lighting and street

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maintenance. So, right now I've got about 35,000 in there, something like that. Uh, so there's there's funds there. >> So, how long is it going to take before that comes in for the materials?

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>> Well, I'm going to order material tomorrow and I'd hope to have it early next week. >> Okay. So, it's readily available. >> Yeah. >> Okay. That was my question. that be like one lane while you're doing what I >> Yeah, it's going to be uh there's going

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to be some lane closures. This is >> the middle too. It's >> going to be some uh some patience with the drivers and take some turns and there's a little bit of a setup time on the products we're using. Uh but I don't see no more than a a day, 24 hours for a

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lane to be shut down. It'll just be a small segment at a time. Quick question. Do you know what the average speed is on Riverwood Drive? >> I could pull that up. >> Would you pull that up? Okay. >> Give me a second here. Yeah, I can get to it.

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>> That's not on the agenda. >> Yeah, I can I can let you know later, Jeff. Okay. >> Two digits or three? >> That' be two. >> Three digits. >> There's some crazy people going through there.

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But thank you for putting that there. It's it's it's worked out well. >> Yeah. >> But I would change it. Instead of having the red light go off at 25, I'd have the red light go off at 26 instead of 25. >> That's that's a comment that people have made. >> When I'm doing 25 and the red lights on

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my radar and so it's like yes. >> Uh see I think we need to vote on that 13,000 for the patching. >> I made the motion. So, I thought we >> all in favor signify by saying I.

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>> Oh, that's approved. >> And then Joel has the crack fill and seal quote. >> Yeah. So, on May 14th, we did open bids for that um crack fill and seal quote project. This year's crack fill and seal quotes projects are fairly large. Um we

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received two bids. Um the low bid Pearson Brothers um was or totaled 660,72768. Uh the second bidder was at $195,180. The engineer's estimate was 123,778.

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Um one note, the engineers estimate included the engineering costs and the construction costs. Obviously, the contractor's bids just include the construction costs, but um you can get a sense that the bids were excellent here,

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well under budget. Um which puts us in a great position. Um Pearson's done a lot of Seal Coat work. I think that they've done every Seal Coat project in orno, >> I think, >> and they generally do a good job.

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um you'd mentioned that um or Kane had mentioned that he might be interested in doing some additional crack filling. I would advocate that that is money well spent. Um right now on the project

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there's about $17,240 in crack filling work being done at a unit price that is pretty attractive. Uh it's $3.95 a pound. Um,

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you know, adding, let's say, $10,000 in crack filling to Minnesota Avenue, a few other spots in town that are more high-profile would be money well spent. Um, it keeps the water out of the streets. It keeps things um

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better maintained and and it certainly extends the life of them. So, you know, if indeed that is something you want to do, you know, we can work with the contractor, process a change order and add that to the contract, too. I make a motion we approve Harrison

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Brothers to do the crack billing and seal coating for basically Fifth Street Northwest and River Park development not to exceed 10 and Crackfield Minnesota Avenue is that

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Durst or Pearson >> uh Pearson has a subcontractor that is going to do that and so just just so you know it's vintage street or vintage road uh too um that gets uh seal coated along with the river park subdivision and then

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there's a a street downtown too that that gets >> vintage road that comes back to the bridge in right >> it does >> that's where it stops >> all the way out to the north city limit so basically cemetery road down the hill and around the corner up to the Pine

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Island city limit so it's a long stretch >> um not to exceed 171,000 Well, if I were to make a recommendation, I'd say award it based on the low bid and then ask us to negotiate a change order for up to

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whatever dollar amount you'd want to if you're interested in that. And if not, just award based on the low bid of 160,673 $27.68. How much crack filling needs to be done along there? >> You know, crack filling is really hard to estimate. >> Exactly.

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>> Um so we we kind of use rule of thumb methods. Um but in total uh there's about $17,000 in crack failing and it's uh just under $4 a pound. Um

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I I go you can't do the right. Yeah, that's why they sell the role takes you. >> It's all work. My motion is to accept award the load to low bid the low bid60,727 $727.68

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to Pearson. and and to negotiate whatever extra it is for the crack bill, >> right? I would just give us a dollar amount. I'm imagine we'll be able to find a home for that crackfill material. Um but you know, if if it's 5,000 is

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10,000, it's 15,000. You you tell us what you kind of feel comfortable with. Okay. And >> what's in the >> I'd say 10,000. >> That's my gut, too. And where would you pull that 10 extra? >> CIP that Okay. So it' be that 220 that

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you mentioned. >> That'll be covered in that CIP. Correct. Yeah. >> Up to 10,000. >> Yep. >> Is there a second? >> Second. Either comments. Is there a time frame? Summertime. They literally would have been here

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Monday if we would have awarded this two weeks ago. So >> here after the 14th they'll start >> we have excluded gold rush from the working days that they were able to do it but uh I wouldn't doubt that it's you know late June July.

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>> Yeah. Okay. >> Any other comments? >> So be careful putting on your gold rush stripes on the road until it's done. A >> lot of gold from here. Huh. Um, all in favor signify by saying I. I.

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>> I. Excellent. Next item is a planning and zoning discussion. There's a memo regarding the Mary Nash background, current status. I guess you called.

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Michael not able to visit be with us tonight. Um was put together back in April. Jason put it together. Um so I'm not

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going to the different you read through it. There's down to three options and there's a recommendation. Excuse me. So if you read through the different options, allow current conditions to remain

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further enforcement may create precedent and inconsistent excuse me potential for neighborhood concerns and complaints. Option two, require formal compliance process. That's recommended. require submission

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of applicable permits, applications or approvals, building permits variance cup if applicable. Establish and defined timeline for compliance maintains consistency and pensibility. Option number three is require removal

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or full correction. Direct the real direct the property owner to remove the non-compliant structure. Establish a firm compliance deadline. strongest enforcement approach but may escalate conflict. So Jason put this memo together with uh

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was talking with Mike city attorney. Uh the recommendation that Jason is proposing at the time was option two require formal compliance process as it provides a balanced approach that recognizes the progress made by the

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property owner uphold city code and standards provides a clear structured path toward compliance that reduces legal and enforcement risk. So then the last item was the next steps. If council concurs, staff will

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issue formal written notice outline requirements and timeline, provide guidance to the property owner and application and compliance steps, monitor progress, and report back to council as needed. I I did have a brief conversation with Mike when he told me late afternoon that

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he wasn't going to be able to join us that this memo was was in the packet. He was aware of that. I raised the question of I think uh of having a more defined compliance steps.

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What does that really mean? Um is it can mean a lot of things. So I think that's why I would I'd recommend tableabling this just because I think we need more uh explanation problem. Okay. Again, I'd like to make a comment if I

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could and then, >> you know, I mean, we've been working on this now for four years. Okay. >> Don't we need Don't we need a motion to >> Well, no, it's just because we're >> No, I'm saying I'm saying don't we need a motion to have a discussion on it?

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>> It's just a member right now. We >> Yeah. So that's but I'm just saying we've we've given so much time and it's like they don't ever abide by any of the rules or regulations or anything. They just

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that's just my comments that there is but we can table it but that's my comments on what's going on. >> I think it's I think we can go back and look at some of the dialogue. We did ask for a building permit. um planning and zoning is aware of that

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because it was uh the building was not in compliance because there's no primary building on the you know so the building was built um put on place um it's a I would I mean I haven't looked

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at the building up close but it doesn't appear to be a hazard >> but it's not the compliance is the aspect that we're not >> right and there's no variance that there was for being able to do that to go through. I mean, none of none of that's been done, you know, and and um again,

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this has been four years that this has been going on. I mean, that's enough time. >> What's P&Z's stance on this? >> It it hasn't come because nobody build out a variance to be able to do it. So, PNZ couldn't do anything because nothing

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has come to be able for us to to look at. Um Randy lives next door. It might be interesting to see what her comments are since she's a neighbor. Randy, if you want to make a couple comments, brief comments.

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>> Um, I just want to say that they did do a very good job on cleaning up their home. We haven't had problems with uh rabbid animals and so that part's been wonderful. Um, I just know that he comes in, he does mow, um, but he's in and out

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of the shed um, a lot. They're parking vehicles on the property, which I don't know if that's a problem or not. Um, and then, um, there are still, um, not a

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ton, but, there are tarped, um, things in the yard yet. Um so all in all it's just uh I guess you know having this come to a conclusion I don't think a lot of us would get the same

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grace >> sorry about that but um >> so if I might ask so the building itself is that >> I'm sorry >> the building that's sitting there now outside of just physically is it is it considered a hazard your perspective or

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I I don't think it's a hazard. It's it's very nicely built, but I do understand that it's larger than supposed to be. There's no residence, you know, and all that. So, >> all the compliance aspect, >> right? >> Okay. I just want to make a

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clarification there if it was. >> Okay. >> Y Thanks. >> Thank you. >> I know I know there was discussion before about the gentleman that was tearing or the company that was tearing the house down. were the ones that were going to construct the building on the property

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and the uh shed was going to be brought in going to be hauled in one sheds and hauled in and set down >> instead decided to decide if they did they put the shed on the property first

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wouldn't have been an issue because then they tear the house down. The shed's already there. >> That's true. So >> that's makes it not >> and and it's and it was like two days difference. >> So the shed itself, I don't see an issue with the shed remaining there, but the rest of the property does need to be cleaned up.

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>> Well, the shed is oversized, number one. Number two, it wasn't brought in. >> I know it wasn't, but it's okay. >> It was built on site without a building permit to be able to do it. So >> those are, you know, I mean, it's

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>> Yeah, I'm with you, Jim. If we if we can't fairly across the board have have um a process for these things, then I don't know why we have a city code because then people can do whatever they want. If we've given them many years to

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correct this and they haven't I mean that speaks to they're just really not interested. Um but I do think we should be fair to all residents. >> Well, >> and we probably wouldn't allow someone to do that for four years. Well, there's a property this side of the river that

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really forced a lot of issues on it. >> Yeah. >> And I really think that it needs to be pushed. >> Well, I again I I agree. >> It needs to be pushed to get get it taken care. >> I if if we're going to have the city look nice and growing and we've got to have

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rules and regulations and and those are just my comments. >> I know the gentleman uh Steve is his name. I have not spoken with him for a year or more, probably two years. I don't know what his position is far as

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if there's more plans to clean up the property as it is or we don't know. So, but I do think we need some better clarification if there's what those options are. What does complying standard really mean?

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>> Well, whether it's a city or legal, I don't know. Oh, go ahead. >> Hasn't there been an issue of being able to impact them and then responding back? >> Well, that's my understanding is is they haven't been responsive back to fast.

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It's been challenging, but he has responded, but >> but it's always been at the very last minute when his feet were more than in the fire before they did anything. And so they, >> you know, they have not been, you know, good

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residents as far as I'm concerned. >> Says in October, they they received a cease and desist notice and they basically >> threw it away and did whatever they wanted. >> Yeah. So that's why I'm saying they just, you know, have a tendency to

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>> I'll reach back to Mike and share a conversation that we need more compliance process outline what that really means for us to make any more decisions. So whether it's a legal one

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>> yeah I don't know I >> mean do we want to talk >> Mike would have been here tonight if you could comment on >> yeah do we want to talk about our preference of options because there's three basically we just let it be two would be we give them a little grace establish a process give them a timeline

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and and then three would be really full enforcement or correction I mean is that something that you want from a council to talk to Mike on what our approach would look like just so he could start to set things in motion. >> I see remove require removal or full

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correction that could be court ordered. Uh I don't know in a position to have that enough background to really make that decision or what that really means what the city has to do or what the cost is to the city.

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But, you know, I mean, if if you ask if I was going to question or what direction I would go would be number three. We've we've given them so many opportunities to be able to do things and they just don't do it, you know. So, at a point you say after four years

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enough is enough. I mean maybe Ryland maybe that's the conversation with Mike is we would from a council perspective like maybe a expedited timeline for compliance >> and then what would that next step be if they are not going to do it within 90

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days or whatever a timeline is >> even give them 90 days I mean they've they've had you know the notification that there is they've they've known it I mean you know they just keep pushing the envelope and and you you've got to be a point with a city where you say no.

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That's it. >> That's fair. >> I don't think I don't think you can be afraid to say no. >> It's true. It's just a matter it's it's the legal aspect of it that we need to make sure we're doing it within our well

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realm of doing things like this. >> I guess this is the formal process to sit here and discussing it, making a decision. That's that's the that's the formal part process we're talking about. >> I can appreciate that. I just want to make sure we've got everything in front of us to make those decisions. I don't

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think we do tonight. >> Okay. >> We can sure try for the 16th in two weeks, two and a half weeks have Mike meet with us. Mike has met with us on this for

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>> I know you can't speak in on all of the discussions on this to this point. Let's let's let's hold off to the 16th and I'll talk to Mike and see if we can't get some more formal. you know, we've got a I believe a P&Z

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meeting tomorrow night that you know, we can bring us. I mean, there's nothing in writing because nobody has put in a variance to be able to do it, but um and yeah, I can take a look. >> It might be a good conversation. Yeah.

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>> For them to be able to open it up and and that. So, I'll I'll make sure we It It's been on our list in the past for I don't know how many months to to to do it. So, um All right,

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moving on. Say no action. Yeah, >> no action. We'll bring it back at the 16th. um public relations committee security camera use policy together

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has put together. >> So why was it why was it the ERC made the decision on that? >> Uh I guess it's because of the policy aspect of it. It's more on staff being able like

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what's an appropriate use because city staff are going to be managing the cameras and the like what's being retained. >> I can understand that. I mean I just kind of look also at at the cost of what this thing is moving ahead and I think

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there's a lot of other less expensive ways to do it. you know, ring doorbells do a heck of a good job and and and the other stuff that wouldn't cost the city the type of money that there is behind it. So, I I think that this should be

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addressed a little bit. I I I understand what you do with this, but the rest of it, I think we should definitely be addressing that as a council and way to save money. >> They're already installed, so >> but yeah, >> one is installed. >> Yeah, I'm just, you know, the rest of

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it. Yeah, it's pretty expensive. >> Yeah. >> I'd make a motion we approve the city of Or local camera security camera use policy >> and I have no problem with with the policy part of it. So, >> I'll second that.

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So if you had a chance to to look through it, read one thing that we you know there's the guidelines are pretty straightforward. >> Yeah, I don't I don't think there's any problem with that. Use disclosure video records

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the intent the access page two election privacy cameras that are in the hallway they would be covered up for the one outside I guess. >> So I I don't think there's any reason for discussion. We've already I think I

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make a motion to approve it and that's that's done. Let's move on. >> The misuse. We just want to make sure that staff and really nobody else misuses the camera data protection too. Is this the right copy? Tampering. Okay, it's in the P. Okay.

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Tampering with the cameras. Just want to make sure that nobody's unplugging them. whatever the case may be, they're meant to be tampered with. So there's no other comments. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I

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post. Thank you. Administration ordinance 26-3. I make a motion to increase the limit of of uh the gambling that it can exceed

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$250. >> Second. >> Any comments with ordinance? Seeing none, we'll do a voice vote. >> Councelor Phillips. >> Hi. >> Councelor Pender Bess. >> Hi. >> Mayor Ior. >> Hi. >> Councelor Riceer.

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>> Hi. Motion passed. >> This we skipped over Ryland the appeals and um equalization board training that we need somebody to do that for or no go. >> Oh, sorry.

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We had done that. I had my certificate a couple years ago. >> Okay. >> Went through that. So, >> I think we just need somebody to go through it. >> Yeah, it's a I've gone through a couple of them. It's a 15 minutes. It's pretty straightforward.

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>> It's online question. You go back and answer the right answer, but you go through it a certificate. >> I can do that if you like. >> I had mine, but you've got to renew it. >> Okay. >> And I don't think we renewed it is what I think both of us went through Ryland at that last time. >> How often do you have to renew it?

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>> Every other year. >> So, it's on the e. It's on the odd number year. >> That's right. 2028 is when we can have our first order of appeals. So, >> Ryland, you're going to renew yours.

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>> Yes. Just because then we're compliant with that. >> Okay. >> Um, >> Greeners Pub gambling license. Make a motion to approve the gambling license for for Greeners. Is there a second?

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>> I'll second it. >> It's going to be nice when it's done. >> It's very hard over there. >> Okay. Any other questions or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. I

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>> I have to back up a second. is for this equalization board training. You know, it's an election year and what if you're not here and you should be

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>> still got time to take it. But yeah, everybody can take it. >> What do you have to have it done by? >> Well, that's my question. That's all I'm saying. >> Is is not till 2028, but it's available. Well, that's >> I'm fine to do it, too. Unless you want

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to rock, paper, scissors, Paul. >> I mean, I don't think it's only one. >> No, for both of you guys. >> Three of us do it. >> Okay. >> At least three. >> Sure. >> Maybe Rachel wants to do it.

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>> I think Paul wants to do it. >> All right. financials check register invoice there in front of you consent agenda motion consent agenda be approved I had

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a couple of things for just uh to make note there's five >> I had one I Did you make a motion to approve it? Right. >> Is there a second? I'll second it discuss it.

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>> Uh on the number 11 on consent agenda part C talks about in the minutes for parks and trails talks about the paving Timberline

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Trail. Is this one of the previous discussions we've had about trailing or what? >> Our thought is to bring that um for like maybe the for 2027 or 2028 consideration because we know there's other trails

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that need to get paved, but we wouldn't do it this year. We're just trying to start to think about what's our next 135 and including some of those other trails. September. >> I just know there's so much of that trail got washed, >> some of them trails got washed away, River Park. >> Y

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>> in 2010. >> Y >> and a lot of that trail is going to be in the riverbed. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> The erosion the rocka there, >> right? But that's down in the riverbed. You know, it's not up it's not up on the people's property anymore. That that 15

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feet got washed away. >> So this is just for clarification. It's between Timberline Drive and Sixth Street Southeast by Joe Forese Place to the east. There's no park. >> Um, well, right across from the list

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station one, you know, there's a there's a city property that goes to Timberline and what the request has been over the years that is to where all the Timberline residents, they have no access to River Park without going out to six Second Avenue, walking down

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Second Avenue. So there is so there's a safer >> so there is a trail already established between >> there's a grass >> but it's but it's an established walking path. >> Yeah. >> I just want to make sure it's established and I just want to make sure we're staying away from that river bed. >> Yes. Yes.

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>> I'll find that to the end. >> It's up on the hill. The other comment I had and and I was looking at the first one which was page 87 and this was from um April 21st meeting for city council. It said that it's it

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suggested that 13,000 be the compromise. It's not set in as being is going to be 13,000 square feet for lots. >> Is there a motion in there? No, I just said that that it suggested that 13,000

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be to be the compromise, not that that's what said. >> We have Did we pause it for further discussion or we we had a motion for 13,000 >> in there? >> Okay. It just I was just looking at the way it's stated in there

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page 87. So, >> there's a motion. >> Yeah, different page 87 here now. Well, on 88 it does say um so right above the C there's a voice vote four to one

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>> to amend the motion to lot says or lots of 13,000 v both carried >> I'm just I just saw that so >> you think it would be on the bottom I guess >> in my head I thought we had done it but I wasn't sure. No, I just wanted to make sure I could when you read it in the

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paper, too. It was kind of confusing that it didn't say that that's what the final was. It said, "Okay, we went through this discussion, but it wasn't okay, this is what it is." So, the paper really didn't didn't say that well either. So,

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>> any other comments? See? None. All those in favor signify say I. >> I approve. Motion being journed 8 o'lock. >> Yeah, we're doing better. Second.

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>> You have a motion to adjourn. >> Second. >> All in favor? Say I >> I approve. Thank you very much. >> Sure. >> Long enough. >> It's long enough. Make up some four

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hour. Nice. I agree. >> We need some videos down here. >> Yeah. Both know whether or not. >> But it is every word. >> Yeah. Exactly.

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>> You know what I mean? >> I get it. Yeah, I'll give you a >> hand too because I I really do think >> I'll follow. >> Yeah, guys did a great job on the blind side. Thank you

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better. It looks like what it should look like. >> I was like, I know. >> Thank you.