Don't us. >> You want to go down by like apple trees right in front. >> Yeah, that attracts gear. Works, right? And I slow down every time I go by and she has one in the school this
not you know there was a lot of damage but >> I got >> Thank you Joe for taking that in consideration Click on just too far. Don't touch anything.
>> Yeah. >> Okay. Good evening. That's our February 17th city council meeting. And with that, welcome for coming and also put people on the Zoom. So start at 6:36. We'll do the roll
call. >> 36 32 >> Mayor. >> Yeah. Congratulations. >> Thank you. Uh councelor Pendigrass >> here. >> Councelor Phillips >> here. Councelor Risarper
>> here. >> Councelor Spring >> here. Staff President Joe Palin. Mike is online, myself, Dean is in the back there, and Rachel. >> Okay. Um on our packets, we're going to
number three and number room number three and four were were turned. So, we'll just do the um approval of agenda first before the public forum. So, I make a motion that we uh approve the agenda.
>> Second. >> Um I've got two quick changes. One is on your table as a application >> sit on that chair that >> way over there >> towards the railing. >> Oh, okay. >> She'll warn me, right?
>> Somebody's on reme Yeah, we'll try this. >> Nope. That's this mouse. Take control. There.
I think we're good. Okay. Sit over here. You listen. Listen >> Paul just wearing to mute you for right now.
>> Okay. >> Okay. Um there's three quick things. One is um the two sisters off sale liquor license. Uh we'll add that to the uh in the consent agenda for license and permits
and then we will have a um a citizens of the year award will be before we'll have that before the uh public form and after setting the agenda here in a few minutes. I thought we agreed to have the liquor
all liquor license se I thought we agreed to have all the liquor licenses separate from the consent. They will pull that out by consent. That's okay. Any other changes? Seeing none, all those in favor as amended signify by saying I.
>> I. >> I. >> Okay. Next item is our citizens of the year award. And with that, I'd like to have Bo come to the podium. Good morning. Have a blessed Valentine
this last weekend. My name is Bo Hannburger along with Mayor Ist Skyler Brightenstein and I formerly served on city council for many years and continue to serve on the Orno outstanding citizen committee. Regretfully, Skyler Skyler's work has
him out of town, though he is joining on the Zoom meeting this evening. He expresses his gratitude to council for continuing to recognize the importance of this award and also sends his congratulations to the outstanding citizen of 2025. Many years ago, when we served on city
council, Oroo tragically lost longtime businessman Gordy Caribble. Gordy liked, like many others, believed in giving back to the community. When Skylar came up with the idea for this award to honor Gordy, with help from Gord's nephew, Mac, the support of Gord's wife, Devon,
and the support of city council saw a need to recognize so many people who give back to the city border. Our hidden gem of a community in southeast Minnesota. Without these types of volunteers, our small city wouldn't survive, yet alone thrive. This award hangs to the right as you
enter into the Orno Community Center. Current and past residents can be nominated annually as long as as long as when they volunteered for a local nonprofit organization they resided and volunteered within the city of Oronoko. The next nominations will be in the
window of fall of 2026. This award normally is held in December, but due to some behind the scenes logistics and timing issues, uh we're here tonight. But the love and care for our residents of our the love and care our residents
have for our community knows no timing or end. This year's awardee began volunteering in Oronoko with the Lions Club in 2013. This person has served as the Oronoko Lions Club president for two years. This person has also been
involved with the fly your flag campaign and helped maintain the city's ice rink. helps with the annual community barbecue and even began helping in downtown orno gold rush days kids zone and car show before becoming a board member of the downtown orno gold rush days. In
addition, this person has also played Santa for the community for the past 10 years. This person has been described as a being all heart dedicated to serve others and an all-around great guy who cares deeply about the Orno community.
It's my pleasure to present this year's 2025 outstanding citizen of the year to Mr. Mike >> Mo. >> Surprised. Congratulations. >> Well deserved. >> Welld deserved. >> We're going to hear about all this
later, aren't we? You're good. >> All right. >> Congratulations. >> Humble highness. Congratulations for your positions. You're the real heroes for me. Oh my
are public forum. It's a threem minute time limit per person. The city council welcomes and encouraged participation from community members. Please keep in mind that your comments must be pert city business and must adhere to data privacy rules. No employees names may be
used. We do not expect action from the council this evening regarding your concerns. To address the city council during public form, please step up to the podium. State your name and address and fill out a form provided. Speakers will be recognized only once. The you
will be timed. Begin speaking when the green card is raised. The yellow card indicates you have 30 seconds left. And the red card indicates you have reached your three minute time limit and must stop. >> Thank you. >> So with that, I'll open the public forum
at 6:40. Is anybody would like to speak? Please step to the podium. Hello, I'm Steve Norland, 845 First Street Northwest Orno. Uh, I'd like to ask this council
if they are aware of the easement agreements that anyone with low pressure sewer lines installed in phase 1A project of the city sewer and water, if they were were aware of any
agreements that which included a blanket easement of total properties of 81 homes, which means that their homes have become unmarkable and questionable
ownership, which would all have to be Is there a I'd like to see a raise of hands. Is there anybody within this room that has seen those agreements? Okay,
>> I take it that is a no with no response or raise of hands. Okay, if I want to sell my home with a blanketed easement, I have a state statute here that says at any time, I mean these
easements as a blanket easement were permanent agreements. I have a state statute here that states at any time 81 of these homes can ask to have that defined
and I'm an advocate for those 81 homes. Maybe they don't want their easement defined, but that will soon be found out. Okay. And yet this
city and people have accepted a award for a superior job on engineering on this project. Received an award
and by the way pride themselves on 600 plus,000 under budget. Okay, that was robbery. Okay, and I thank you and I thank you,
Joe, for reconsidering this. But there are 81 homes out there that have the same right as I do. And if anybody'd like to see the statute, it's right here. If anybody
would like to see the agreements, I'm sure the city has a copy of them. or wasn't it even presented to you from our legal council? I'd like answers, please. And thank you,
Joel, and thank you, Jason, for your work today. Thank you, councel. Is there anybody on Zoom that would like to speak at public forum? Second call for public forum. Hello, this I'm Steve McMa from 1115
Riverwood Drive and I'm here to follow up on the email I sent earlier today. And I just want to point out that Riverwood Drive wasn't that bad a year ago. Unfortunately, this winter has really took a havoc on it and it's degraded to the point that's even riding
a bike down there is going to be treacherous this spring. There's numerous potholes on Shady Oak Road, the the lane there. Say that curve there. Right now, it's just one big pond on one side because of all the potholes. It's I
was shocked when the snow melted what happened. I think most people I mean, everyone's slowing down. You don't have to worry about the speed over there. Everyone is, you know, very cautious going around that curve now. But I know it wasn't going to be addressed for another couple years and that was just
doing the normal steel coat. I don't even know if that's going to take care of it. And you know, and I know we only have so much dollars and I I like to keep in the budget and everything else as you know, but I think we need to look at what we can do to at least patch it, you know, just so it from a safety
standpoint. And you know, I and O'Res on the other side, my kids over there, you know, they're due to be seal coated this year and you you you need it on the road eventually. But what what happened to us on our side Patrick went under it. So he
put that second layer of tar down way before he shipped out and then we had River Ben come in there and I'd say probably twothirds of development happened after the second layer was put down. So that we're tar on top took so much heavy weight of all this construction. The XOX's falling apart,
you know, and of course we only had one access, you know. So no one did anything wrong here. I just wanted to make you aware of that, you know, it's not going to get any better. It's only going to get worse. And no one has an easy answer for this. I
mean, you know, and so, but thanks for your time. Appreciate you listening. Thank you. >> Appreciate the email. >> Third and final call for public forum. Seeing none, we'll close it at 6:46. All right. Um, Sergeant Rain called me or left me a
text with the sheriff report. Um, he didn't have anything else to add other than what you see uh in the in the packet. So, I did ask him about the alarms and alarms of falling off. Uh there's a some early January but none since
and if we do have any questions we can let city staff they can follow up with Sergeant Ren. Okay, public works. Next item we've got a couple motions. Pain, you want to speak to those
briefly? Yeah, sure. Uh, number one, street sweeping. Uh, I got two quotes for street sweeping this year. Usually we do this in the spring. Clean up all the sand and salt from uh snow removal. Durst came in the the cheaper, more
economical one. So, I'd like to request the approval of Durst to do the spring sweeping. >> Who did it last year? >> Last year, Wigum did it and they were cheaper than Durst. Now, this year, Durst is cheaper than Wiggum. So, change
in fuel price, labor cost. So, it's cheaper this year. I'll make a motion we approve the Durst Street sweeping quote for $3,200. >> I'll second that.
>> Any other comments or discussion? Any time frame? May. >> No, we're going to wait till the snow is good and gone, right? You know, we've had a May snowstorm before, so it'll be April, May.
>> Any other comments? See none. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Oppos. It's approved. >> Next item I've got is uh we've got some uh tree care plan for 2026. Um I've
broken down the tree care into three parts. A spring trimming, uh a little bit of reserve for the summer months, severe weather, >> and then a fall trimming. So, uh, the spring trimming, we could trim on the
oaks, ash, elms, uh, while it's still safe to trim on them. Disease, bugs, insects. So, uh, we've got some work in Ornicle Park. Ton of oaks down there. He's a freaking liar
park. All the parks. We've got some rightaway work that we want to do, too. And and uh so um I got together with the arborist John Marx. We kind of came up with this plan of kind of splitting up the tree budget into thirds. 10,000 this
spring. We're going to reserve 10,000 for some emergency and then another 10,000 for the fall. And that'll consume the the budget for 2026. So, I'm asking tonight for a a spring uh trimming up to
$10,000 for citywide tree services. So, that's climbing, trimming, pruning, removal, bucket truck, grinder. That's that's everything that they offer. So, >> make a motion to approve that.
>> Second it. Any other comments? Um, just one quick comment. Appreciate everything you guys have been doing this fall. We're trimming up some of the trees on Minnesota Avenue and CL. So, great. >> Yeah, that chipper we got works great
and and uh yeah, it's going good. >> Thank you. >> Any other comments? Seeing none, all those in favor sign I >> I approved. >> Thank you. >> Okay. before you leave.
>> Yeah. >> Next is the fire department. >> Who wants to speak to that? Johan, are you about the first item, the tracking monitor? >> Oh, I'm here. I'll speak to the generator tracking. So, uh at the fire valve there
is a a natural gas generator and uh that serves, you know, emergency power. If the power to go out, that building over there, the doors, the lights, everything works. uh it's kind of critical for the emergency operations
center and the ambulance and fire trucks to get out. So, uh one thing that those generator systems lack is a monitoring system. Uh if you guys recall, we got a monitoring system for the wastewater
treatment facility generator. That's uh it's on my tablet, it's on my phone, it's on my computer. So, I could be laying in bed middle of the night, Christmas morning, you know, and uh it lets me know what's going on, if it's ready, there's a fault, if it's running,
there's a communication issue. I've got a lot of peace of mind with that uh that remote monitoring ability. The fireh hall generator is a Colar. Uh it's uh what what you see in front of
you tonight is is uh brand specific to the colar generator similar to the one at treatment facility. It it it does a lot. There's a lot we get out of that monitoring system. There is a subscription. We do have to pay an
annual subscription with coler generators. Uh the caterpillar one at the plant we don't. It's just a little different between manufacturers. I would like to have that. I brought it up to the to the fire department the other night and uh I think it's a good
idea. I think it's got some value to it. I got the uh fire department to agree. So, uh I've got their support. Now, tonight I'd like to get uh council support. Well, the um bill right now is $4,73.
plus 438 or is that 4,000? >> That's included in that 4,000 >> first year. >> Yep. That's included. Yep. >> So, we will have to budget for it and and like we talked uh Adam B, Johan and
I, we all talked that we'd budget for that in the years to come. 2027, we'd budget for that in the uh EOC budget most likely. There's a a line item for generator maintenance. Seems fitting.
>> What does that annual subscription get you? >> So, I I think it's similar to like a a data plan, a cell phone plan, right? Like that's just what what it takes to operate the thing. So, >> but they're not going to help troubleshoot or I mean I mean it really
it's just an alerting system. So, I don't know. >> It's an alerting system. So, so a lot of the information that I'll I'll get from that alert system I can uh troubleshoot. >> Okay. >> So, >> we need to have a motion first before we get into discussion. We missed the motion.
>> I'll make a motion to approve the remote monitoring system for the fireall generator. >> I'll second. >> Now, we've already got an agreement that there is for maintenance that goes along with this stuff over in the fireh hall. Yes.
>> And we watch the generator, we watch everything else that way. Um, I think it's always nice to have bells and whistles. I really don't think that that this is as critical as what it is if we didn't have the other agreements that there are, especially for travel and
parts. $2,693. Okay. For travel and parts for this. Um, the things work great. We've been in good situation. We've got great maintenance. is behind it. I say that we put this off and put it on the budget for next year.
>> So, um maybe you but right now you have 12,000 in the budget. >> Is there anything else that you have coming up might be use that for? I mean, that's just your maintenance, but >> Yep. There will be uh there are a couple things I think in the engine bay. We'll
be two engines. We're going to be replacing the 25 year old um 20-year-old uh door garage door openers. So, those will get those will get replaced here this year. I'm going to kind of do it like a rolling replacement so I don't so
we don't replace all six at once. So, that's one of the items that's on my list. >> So, the balance of 8,7500 could be enough to cover a door, two doors. >> Yeah.
Yeah. >> Well, I think the monitoring system is a good thing. Um, >> you know, >> they cycle once a month, but >> that's when they don't cycle. >> That's when they don't cycle. That's that's when that's that's when you don't know you have a problem until you have a
problem, right? Power goes out and the fire hall is dark, right? That that's going to cause some issue and and some concern. Uh, you know, one thing I'd like to add is all these uh standalone generators we have, we have one at the treatment facility. It's got an
automatic transfer switch and it's got the remote monitoring. I think those are three three things that go hand in hand, right? Uh why have an automatic transfer switch if you don't have a generator? Why have a generator if you don't? I think there's a lot of things that that play into that. So, this standard having
that remote monitoring ability, I'd like to have that through all of our standalone generators. Lift station one, the treatment facility, if we do install one at one of our wellhouses in the future here at city hall, we'd have a standard where we can we can do this. We
have that capability. And that way, we don't have one oddball that's just kind of a lone ranger. You don't know if it runs or not. And uh like I said, there's a lot of peace of mind. I know a lot of people, a lot of the citiz citizens would would like having that peace of
mind having an EOC uh operations. And so, uh >> and again, I think we have peace of mind. We have the maintenance contract. We do have that stuff that's in place right now. The only difference is it just doesn't show up on your computer at
bed at 3:00 in the morning on a Sunday. Right. >> That's the only thing we're missing. >> Yep. Yep. you don't have that 24/7 ability. Yep. >> So, again, it's something that that's that's nice to have like with everything else that way, but um again, I just think that we can put that off to next
year and put it on next year's budget. >> So, it goes down. Are you going to be the only one or whoever's on call or would fire and first responders also get notification? Like, who's the long-term owner of that? >> You know, you know, I think that that needs some clarification. You know, what what my role is as public works
director. Am I in charge of a building, a facility? What am I in charge of? You know, I think I've asked for that clarification before. And and I think we need to uh really dial in on that and and separate duties, right? We don't want volunteers
going outside of the volunteer realm, and we don't want staff members volunteering either. So, it's a trade-off, but I think it's a conversation that should happen. Uh right now we do have 247 coverage at public works, you know, so we've got a
an on call phone that trades hands and we've got a schedule and I think with those would be details we could work out. >> Comments. All those in favor of the purchase of remote >> um monitoring system signify by saying
I. >> Right. One word real quick. Yeah. >> Um Mike reminded me just reminded me since Paul is online, we need to be doing voice votes for all of our votes. >> Oh, okay. >> So, um real quick before we vote on this, Paul, if you're online, you can
hear us here. Did you have any objections to any of the previous votes that we took? >> Uh no, I don't. >> We'll be doing voice votes on everything just so we're clear on that. Just moving forward. Any questions, Paul? >> Okay. Yep. Jason.
>> So we'll go through if we're ready to do a vote on this. >> Bring it out to our attention. >> Hi. >> Councelor Phillips. Name. >> Councelor Spring. >> Hi. >> Councelor Risorfer. >> Hi. >> Councelor Pendigrass. >> Hi. >> 41.
>> All right. That's approved. Um Johan. >> Yep. >> We'll speak to the next item. The training EV training vehicle. What's going on? EV training first. >> Y
>> um so as we all know, lots of lots of more hybrid vehicles and all the way from hybrid to completely EV um vehicles are coming on the road. I think there's over 600 makes and models now that are on the
road. Yeah, it surprised me too when I when I read that. Um so that's one thing that we need to be we need to be ready for. Um, we've got Highway 52 and there's plenty of Teslas and other vehicles coming through our our city and in our city. Um, so having the the
background and the training to be able to handle those and it and it's changing and it all it's it's continuing to change. Unfortunately, the manufacturers have not given us like here's how to handle this, right? Whereas like with a combustible engine, a regular car, you know, you put
water on it, you cool it down, you put it out. Um, EV cars are special special. Um, so, um, this is this is a great training. Um, every other month I'm at the county fire chief's meeting and this same
company came and gave us a little bit of a snippet, like about a half hour, 45 minute presentation. Um, and I thought it was a I thought it was really a really good option to bring to our our department because we have not had any
training in EV, you know, vehicle fires. Um, and we've got so um this is uh completely reimburable from by the MBFT, which is great. Um, they actually added $900 this year just for EV training. So
I'll cover a little bit more but um yeah so this is it's a 4hour class that we're going to have once in because usually we do training but the month this time we're going to do a little so they bring a 53 foot semi um they've got cars that are completely built apart um so you can
see you know where they've got the batteries um you know they're going to talk about thermal runaway they'll you know there's there's a lot of you know different options um from there we will be able to have an SOP SOG be in place for handling EV fires because it it
differs between department to department. Some departments use a a fire blanket, some departments surrounded drown, some departments use sand, um some departments even just let it burn. Um so this will give us a good good idea
of what of what we're looking for. Um, and yeah, so, uh, I'd like approval for that and then we'll I'll work with Mel to get this set to the MBFD for reimbursement. >> Make a motion to approve that.
>> Second. Do you know if there's going to be additional equipment costs after this training? Like you say, some people use water, sand, whatever. Right. >> What What are we looking at potentially coming down the road?
>> I'm not sure. >> Okay. >> Right now, they actually they actually have a fire blanket that that was that was supposedly, you know, able to be used as a $3,000 one-time use blanket. Okay.
Come to find out that it wasn't effective. >> All it was doing was covering up all the superheated gases. And when you took it off, it would basically explode. So now they're saying don't use that. See? See what I mean? I mean, think things are evolving and changing as we find out
more and more about about these vehicles, right? Um, so more to come more to come on it. Okay. It's definitely on, you know, and you know, on my radar, more than on my radar. It's a big part of my radar. So >> So they're talking about the car itself. I don't know how many people have like
charging ports in their house. Does it cover the actual charging and what you do within a garage and house setting too? Okay. >> Yep. I think it was a couple months ago Steuartville had a had a car um >> I don't know how many people in Orinal go have that but >> I don't know um I know Steuartville had
a car fire that was an EV fire that was so yeah >> so the training covers the actual board too. Okay. And again, I welcome uh we've got we we're going to we'll have it filled the class filled, but um if council would love to come and see this,
it's definitely uh be something to see. So >> So did I say that it's in a trailer? >> Yeah. >> So where you going to store it? >> No, no. So the the training all the training props and everything that they have that they bring just for that training, just for that night. Okay.
>> They bring in a semi and they actually bring in a Tesla as well. Um, so then they'll just take it all with them when they leave. >> Yep. >> So, this is just a onetime $3,000 event. >> Yes. >> Is this the type of thing that other fire departments would be interested in
seeing it as well or? >> Absolutely. >> I've already reached out to um Byron and El um talking with their fire chiefs as of late. Um they're they're excited to take take part in this and we can have
up to 36 people. So, with our department plus um I said four for Byron and four for Elgen, we should be able to have a full house. >> Good. >> It's fully reimbursible. >> Yes. >> Any other comments?
>> Assuming Mel and I, you know, make it happen. At least we will. >> Seeing no other comments for a voice vote. >> Mayor. Hi, Councelor Phillips. Hi, >> Councelor Spring. Hi, Councelor Riceer. Hi, >> Councelor Pedigress.
>> Hi. >> Next item is a fit testing count. >> Yep. Um, every year we we do we do fit testing in accordance with OSHAP. Um, it's it's uh making sure our masks fit,
right? Um, so it's not only do they fit a person, has the person changed or not? Um, is there something wrong with the mask? Is there something not? Even though we do do maintenance, we don't have the equipment to do the the full, you know, test like almost it's like sucks it to your face. Um,
uh, they also do an EKG and, uh, and a urine test, um, for a myriad of vitamins. Um, so, yep. And then they check your they'll check your blood pressure and couple other vitals. Um, so we do it
every year. Same same company, Med Compass. So we try to do it in April of every year. So we have it here. >> Make a motion to approve. >> Second.
>> So I see the um there's 26 units. >> Mhm. >> So is there issue of storing that information or equipment? Oh, no. No. They bring the equipment. Oh, >> it's another one they bring in return. They bring it to us. They They even bring the cotton, everything that we got
to lay on. And >> 26 people will do it. >> 26 people will do it. So, >> this comes out of your training budget. >> This does not. This actually is in it is budgeted on a different line item um for for medical services.
>> Okay. Yeah. 41120. >> That's right. I saw medical services and training. I didn't know which one was falling into. So, >> yep. Medical services for this one. >> Any other comments? >> Seeing none, do a voice vote.
>> Uh, Mayor Horse. >> I councelor Phillips. >> Hi. >> Councelor Spring. >> Hi, >> Councelor Risarper. >> Hi, >> Councelor Pendergrass. >> Hi. Yeah, it's approved. You have a new candidate for explore program.
>> Yep. Uh that would that put us back to back to three uh because Schroeder um turned 18 and got on the department. Um so now so we were down to two with Finn and Andrew and then Sophia put in her application.
though. Um, she it sounds like she is I wish I knew what I wanted to do when I was a sophomore. Um, but uh she it sounds like she really wants to to pursue this as a as a career. It's a great opportunity to get your
feet wet um with with this. So, make a motion to approve her as explorer. >> Second it. Any other comments, questions? Great to see that enthusiasm, that's for sure.
Any other comments? Seeing none, voice vote, please. >> Mayor, >> hi. >> Councelor Phelps. Hi. >> Councelor Spring. >> Hi. >> Councelor Risorfer. Hi. >> Councelor Penigrass. >> Hi. >> Why relief? Uh, is Kent going to do that or
>> one more? Sorry. One more. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Ryan, I'm sorry. >> Yeah. >> So, um Ryan Ryan Fee was firefighter with us, um but has not been to training since June 2025 and a meeting since August
2025. So, um I made the recommendation to uh remove him from the from the department. unfortunately um with his lack of participation. So, and believe it or not, the Orville city code actually says
something about it. So, um 3117 section B firefighters absence from three consecutive drill drills or meetings unless excused by the chief shall forfeit membership in the department. So, >> make a motion to remove Brian Fee.
second. Um, has he been contacted to let him know that he's being removed? >> I was waiting to send out the the um I'm going to mail him a letter, certified mail. >> Um, I was waiting for you guys to give
me the approval tonight and then I'll send it out tomorrow. >> How long's he been on? >> And does he have his own gear? >> So, he has in my in my letter I I ask because everybody he does he has does not have his own gear. He has not been on a year. >> Okay.
>> We didn't have to spend any money. So, he was just using what we had. >> Um so, we're not adding money for that. He actually came in with his fire one, two, and hazmat um classes done. So, we didn't have to spend any money on that. The only thing that he has that is
property of the city, which he did sign out because we have a sign out pro signin process for pagers and other things. Um he has his pager still. So, in my letter, I'm also requesting that um he return his pager either to me or
to city hall um by March 15th. >> Any other comments? Voice, please. >> Mayor Ahorse. >> Hi. >> Councelor Phillips. Hi. >> Councelor Spring. >> Hi. >> Councelor Risorfer. Hi. >> Councelor Penigrass. >> We lose him.
>> Paul. Hi. >> No comments. >> Okay. Um, next item. This is the fire relief. Uh, a motion resolution to approve increase of the retirement
fire relief from $3,000 to $3,500. Is there anybody speaking to that or you or K or >> can can um >> Yeah. >> Kent, would you like to speak to the uh
change in the pension level? >> You might was explained pretty well in that letter, but it's pretty straightforward. >> Yeah. So, I make a motion that we approve the increase. >> I'll second that. Um,
any other comments with their pitching? So, it's not >> Yeah, the budget's there and everything. The dollars are there for it to do it. So, >> they say we're well funded, which is great. >> No other comments. We'll do a voice.
>> Mayor Aourse. >> Hi, Council Phillips. Hi, Councelor Spring. >> Hi, >> Council Riceer. >> Hi, >> Councelor Pentagram. >> Hi. >> Thanks. >> Approved. >> Um, thank you. On
next item responders report. Next item is a parks and trails >> submission for >> Yep. So, Parks and Trails has been working over the last um probably eight months to bring in an adopt a bench
program to Oronokco. And really what it will be is to have a standard bench um that um residents and or businesses could purchase and um put a memorable plaque on or something. Um so, we've worked over the last couple of months to
to figure out what there's different bench options. And so, in that packet, we have a standard bench that we would like to to recommend. It is a um six foot kind of plastic bench. Um it's like a cedar with a black frame. Um that
costs about $726 plus an additional um for shipping. It actually has some mounting um that can actually make sure that it's not going to move anywhere. And then we are going to work with Kane to do um cement underneath so they don't have to mow
around it. Um, and then we are going to be working as we figure out some of the the trails on where we would pave them. And so we're looking for council endorsement on the program itself as well as the bench. And then we'll
continue to um bring more information about where these benches will actually live. Um, we wanted to make sure that we're thinking about paving the trails before we're putting benches in and having to reconsider those. So, we're going to do it in a little um phased um
space as well. Um we do want to use the city's communication challenge or channels to promote this program and see if there's people that are interested in it and where they would be interested. Um and so that is up for uh actual
approval tonight. make a motion to approve the >> one that include the plaque or signage that would go along with >> that's but they're not that expensive and um the parks and trails would actually do like a dedication
>> okay >> letter and go and recognize it if they wanted to do that the actual plaques aren't very expensive so >> I have question I have a question on that if I can. >> Uh
I was just curious if if they're sponsoring it, does that mean the whoever sponsoring it is going to pay for the bench? And >> it'd be a donation. >> They're they're going to make a donation to pay for them. >> Yep. And we've even talked about if they don't want to buy the whole bench, maybe
they can put it in a pot and we'll save money to to get those. Um or if there's a business that wants to go in on it. Um, so I think it's really just trying to see who's interested in what they're interested in doing. But yeah, they would they would donate that the city on
behalf of putting in a bench. >> Well, it's it's kind wouldn't it be kind of hard to put somebody's name on a bench if they didn't pay for the whole thing? >> We'll figure it out. >> Two plex. >> Yeah, two. 10 plaques. >> Will these benches be put on a concrete platform then?
>> Yeah. Yeah. So then they don't have to mow around it. Y >> does that 726 include the concrete pad? >> No, but we're going to take it on Kane's budget. >> For the path to be paved before you do it. >> Yeah. Yeah. There's some areas that are
prime for some benches. there's others that we want to make sure that we're thinking about where the path goes and if we want to pave it before we're putting benches too. So, we want to see what the interest is out there before we think about where all these bench
placements. We've also talked about there are ADA regulations on where benches should be placed. um they're probably closer together than what we would maybe put them, but there are requirements of or at least guidelines of kind of how far and where they should
be placed. So, I think we'll we'll kind of work with that, too. >> That might be something we'll do in the projects to include that in the path project. A little bump out >> for bench placement. >> Yep. >> So, it doesn't eat into Kane's budget. a great great idea and I think it'll be
well received. So any other comments? >> Seeing none, we'll do a voice. >> Mayor, >> hi. >> Councelor Phillips. >> Hi. >> Councelor Spring. >> Hi. >> Councelor Risorfer. >> Hi. >> Councelor Pentagrass. >> Nay.
>> Hey. Um Jason, did you want to comment on employee relations on the agenda here? >> Yeah, just quick update. We've got five applications that we're reviewing right now um with the hopes to start interviews
beginning of next week. So pushing through >> two positions. >> Yes. So there's two out of the two. Yep. So, but so yeah. >> Um, next item is unfinished business.
This is a carryover from our January meeting regarding gambling and charitable donations, distributions. The first one is a ordinance amending the provisions of orical city code title
13 chapter 130 sections 130.007 I can read real quickly the city code title 13 general offenses chapter 130 gambling section 13.0 007 is hereby amended as follows.
130.007 contribution of net profits to fund administered by city point A. Each organization licensed to conduct life lawful gambling within the city pursuant to MS Minnesota statute 349.16
as it may be amended from time to time shall contribute 10% of its net profits derived from gam lawful gambling in the city to fund administered and regulated by the city without cost to the fund. A point B. The city shall disperse the
funds for charitable contributions as defined by Minnesota statute 349.1 to subdivision 7A as it may be amended from time to time or police, fire and other emergency or public safety related
services, equipment and training excluding pension obligations. Payment under the section shall be made quarterly. the city use of the funds. These funds shall be determined at the time of adoption of city's annual budget or when the budget is amended.
There's a prior code Minnesota statute 50513 section two this or that this ordinance shall take effect upon its publication. So with that I make a motion we approve ordinance 20.
>> So Ryland Ryland. >> Yes. >> This is Mike. I'm sorry I'm on Zoom. But so there's two alternative ordinances there. >> Yes. >> So the next one. So I don't think you should do a motion to approve it necessarily. I think there's an option B
and you should ask for a motion to approve either A or B, whatever the council wants um to do. So option B is just to repeal that entire ordinance. So then you wouldn't be collecting the 10% anymore if you choose
option B. If you choose option A, you just read it. And that one basically cleans up an error in your code. Um because uh it's it said um it it didn't really reference the
allowable uses for the funds correctly. So now it does. So it's just a cleanup of the code, but to keep doing it the same way would be option A. And to change the way you're doing it and no longer collect that 10% would be option B. That makes sense. Does that make sense
or you're looking >> confused? >> I'll withdraw the start of that. So what I read was option A. Option B is a an ordinance repealing the provisions of article city code title 13 chapter 13
section 13.007. Section one says that's orno city code title 13 general offenses cap chapter 130 gambling section 13.007 is hereby repealed and reserved for future use and shall there after be
labeled reserved. This ordinance shall take effect upon its delications. >> I make a motion to uh approve option B. We have a motion to approve option B. Is that right?
>> Second. >> Second for discussion. >> I'll make a second to approve option B. >> We have a second. Uh Daniel seconded >> discussion.
Um, I would like to uh my concern with repealing it completely is that if we have another organization come in and want to do gambling in the future, then we either have to um not collect that or we have
to scramble to get something put back in and that could look uh poorly on the city of putting that back in. >> I I think we have the ability to do that right now. that has not been the case up to this point in time with the city,
>> you know, and so, you know, if if that would come, then I think that we have an ability to come and to be able to do that. Uh, we had discussed that before and trying to find ways and and Mike was in on that when we were discussing that.
I think to make it clean just to be at this point of what we have if we is just to go this way and then if we need to make an amendment or to change it in the future be pretty simple to be able to change it at that time and I can I can
respect that but I want to set consistency moving forward and I understand that we haven't had anybody in the past but that's not my concern. My concern is the future. So I would I would like to have it be option A is the
way that I'm leading. >> Yes, I would u I I couldn't support option B mainly because what we're looking at here is still maintaining um the 10% gambling on the Horn uncle site and it's the point that Daniel made
too. I think it's an excellent point that To me, I think it's very it supports our community and to deny it would be we don't know what the future would be and I just don't feel like that's the right way to go. >> Oh, what's what's interesting is if you
take a look at what's coming further in our packet which is resolution number 20 2604. If you look at this, um, you're asking for the money for 2025.
The $3,000 goes to the Lions Club. Uh, $2,000 goes to the Gold Rush. Uh, $2,000 goes to VFW. $500 goes to the History Center. $654.75
goes to Orno Go Age Friendly. I don't see any place in that money for 2025 that the fire department was even addressed or any money goes to the fire department. Okay. And the fire department relief is the one that does
all the work on keeping track of this and does all the gambling that there is. You have completely shoved them in the toilet. So with that and the attitude that there is that goes along with it, that's why I'm going for option B. You
don't even address all the stuff that's being done with the fire department. >> Well, in the discussion for option B, I can appreciate the background of what you're saying. Um, but I do think it's um, you know, we haven't discussed the
resolution yet that you referenced. We're just looking at what we're dealing here with this option B option. >> But we have to look at what you've already put down in paper of proof of where the city looks at it that none of that money goes back to the fire
department. And I think that that is totally wrong. I really do. >> So maybe then we need to reverse that resolution or have some go back to them. But taking it all out all together, there is no oversight.
>> Well, again, who does all the work to do the gambling? >> I I know they do. >> And they keep track of it. They're there every week doing that stuff. There's tremendous amount of effort that's put into it. It's not like >> here comes free money and we're just going to divide it up. And I don't think
that that's right. So >> maybe we need to for that resolution later in the packet, maybe we need to bring them in and ask them on how they would like it to be distributed. So they get a they get a part of that 10% and
where it goes. >> Well, again, there's a lot of the stuff that the relief does for this community. Um, and just recently they turned around and had given uh
the top page >> uh $850 for the u gymnastic stuff. So there's stuff that we do all the time that there is for the relief association for giving back to
the city and the city does do everything that the fire relief is one that probably the most responsible for anything that there is in this town, you know. So they're they're giving money back to this town, but then they've have the ability to decide where the money
goes, not arbitrarily the other way around where it's just given just because it it's a part of that 10%. Also makes it that much easier for us as a city to keep track of it because they pay for what there is to go through for
their audit. They don't come to the city and ask for the city for the $10,000 for their audit every year of what goes on for the relief association. >> That's because they're completely separate. I just want to make sure we're clear about this. The relief is separate from >> it's not a city department. I just want
to make sure the relief would keep everything that way and it stays there and the relief would take care of it. So I just I think it's better for the 10% to stay with them. So the option B, you know, it's um when we get to the resolution, we can talk
about that, but that's, you know, just like option A talks about, it's something that's reviewed every year. It's not set in stone. We're just looking at this one year. And so, um, that's why I I like or I would I would
vote no for, uh, not approving ordinance B. At the same time, the resolution that we're talking about a little bit later. I think it um we talk about the funds, they don't go back to the fire department, but at the same time, you look at the organizations that they're
sponsoring and helping fund. In my mind, that's a bigger audience for people to appreciate what the fire department and the gambling is doing for the city. And I think that goes a long ways uh with supporting the fire department, the first responders from all the
organizations that the 10% is going to is how I'd look at it. So Paul, do you have any comments, Paul? Uh >> no, I don't. I I just think we had to go with plan B because fire department sh's been saying what's going on with it.
Um, any more comments? >> If not, let's do a voice vote. >> What are you doing? A voice vote for >> It was on your motion. >> Okay. >> For the approval of option B. >> Mayor, could I just bring one thing in for you for you guys? A
>> Phillips. Phillips. Councelor Spring. >> Councelor Risorfer. >> I'm a nay. >> Councelor Pentigrass. >> Yes. >> Okay.
That is not approved. 23. >> What What was the motion? >> The motion The motion was for B. >> Correct. And there was two votes for it and three nays. >> Okay.
>> So, so what by saying three, four, two, four and three against it, what happens? Does is option A or option B take effect? >> You have to vote. So >> nothing. Nothing. But you so everybody
you have to understand something about option A. your your existing code is not accurate. Um, and I I can explain that. So, you really have to approve one of these two in my view. So, either one or the other. So, in the code it says,
>> well, Mike, um, last time. So, I just make a motion to approve option A. >> Second it. >> Yeah. So in in option A it says for law currently your code says for lawful purposes as defined by Minnesota statute
349.12 subdivision 25. Um but that's not actually accurate. So what that statute what the statute actually says is in subdivision 7A
of that statute it says charitable contributions means one or more of the lawful purposes law lawful purposes expenditures under subdivision 25 paragraph A. Then it says clauses 1 to 7 10 to 15 and 19. So it
actually limits within subdivision 25. You can only spend it on certain certain parentheticals, not the whole statute. And the way your code reads now, it's the whole sub all of subdivision 25, which I don't think is I'm not saying you were ever using the money for any
illegal purpose, but I just think you should correct that ordinance then. and limit actually allows which is so now it reads um charitable contributions as defined by MS section 34912 subdivision 7A which
is which is correct and that's what you want so so if you don't approve B I think you need to approve A I mean if you leave it as is then I would say when you approve later in the meeting you said there's a resolution to approve the expenses for
that of the money you collect Ed, you just have to make sure you're not you're whatever you're spending the money on fits within that 34912 sub subdivision 7A and there's a listed and it probably does I'm guessing. Um, does anybody have any questions about
that? >> Thank you. >> Okay. I didn't really explain it. I just created the resolutions. I didn't really explain it in a memo or anything, but that's that's why that change. >> Yeah. And the other reason for um reviewing option A too is that we're
changing the word of the or wording of the ordinance as well. We're striking couple words in that and adding some more too. So it needs to be voted on anyway. So >> um any other comments?
Seeing none, do a voice vote. >> Mayor Ist. >> Hi. >> Councelor Phillips. >> Hi. >> Councelor Springs. >> Hi. >> Councelor Risorfer. >> Hi. Council Pentagrass. >> Nay. >> 32 approved. Next item on new business
is a uh something that's been brought to the council that we bring it back here. Today is a motion to approve proposal Anderson construction to complete a facility condition assessment
of St. Hall Fire Department public. I make a motion we approve this motion. >> Second. >> This is um already in our budget that we had approved. Correct, Mason?
>> Um yes. And I'll make a slight amendment to this. So you'll see in the packets that were online and was put out. Um I did over the weekend got an update from Klaus Anderson firm. Their prices did go up from last year a little bit. They went from 8,100 to 9,000. With that, um
looking it over today, different spots where we can pull the extra $900 difference from. I have three options where I think it would fit into the budget um to be able to utilize those. two of them fall under the the finance administration section um
correction under the uh community center um budget. The first one, repair, maintenance, building facilities. I think that that qualifies just because this is the main facility that vets going to be looking at is repair and maintenance of know this is the bigger one of the three that they're going to be doing. They got the fire hall in the
shop as well. The other option in there, we have another Daniel's favorite. We have a another section that has $1,000 in there. Um that would cover under that. Um and then the final one is under the 425. We set money aside $25,000 um under
the shop side to start preparing for um renovations and coming projects. Believe talked with Kane. This would kind of fall under that as well. The same concept. So we do have a few different areas we could pull that additional $900 um from the budget code. um if there's
any recommendation on that, but otherwise, yeah, the 8100 was budgeted for as part of the uh city budget this year. >> So, it talks about a 10-year plan. Did they take into consideration of what we would actually have in terms of budget
and expenses for that? So again, would they look at what our long-term plan would be and align that to the work or are they just going to say you need to redo it, I mean do everything and here's your 10ear plan to get there. >> They're not saying like this is the you
know here's your >> the plan is going to look at the overall conditions of everything and they're going to say this is where we see this plan going. That's to help us guide and direct that. Now, if we don't meet it, I mean, we don't if we don't have the budget for it, we don't have the budget for it. But this gives us that that footing and groundwork to say, "Hey,
this is why we're asking for this money or this is why we're doing this or if we're going for grants, this is what says we need this grant this year to be able to do this project or to help in this project." Um, and that's why they lay it out over that that 10 years to kind of give us that ability to to work
in work inside that a little bit easier. >> And they would like prioritize like urgent things versus things that need to get done later. So everything's given a grade and a score of what's the most urgent and what's, you know, what's newer, what's doesn't need to be replaced and what's the lifespan on it.
It's given a grade and put into the system. And that's why it's kind of they're not going to say, oh, you need to do this year one, this year two, this year three. It's no, these are your reds, these are yours, these are your greens. That's kind of like where you're at on the flowchart of what would need
to be fixed as a priority. Thank you. >> So, I have a couple questions regarding on page page one or page 34, there's a paragraph right above does a project approach and work plan.
>> Yes. >> Um the one thing I really like the idea is that they're going to check the indoor air quality uh here at city hall. And I think that's something that you know public work is pretty new. But here in this building, I think it's really good that we're
spending the time to make sure that the air quality is is good or what it needs to be improved. Um and then on page 35 there's a bullet number four under present phase
that says divide a full digitized package of site plans concepts results estimates the 10-year plan and a final report. So that will be a very comprehensive plan at all the buildings and aspects
on the back on the exclusions on the next page. Uh bulk printing of reports and findings. That's our city costs. It's on page 36. Exclusions. So we'll get a digitized copy of it, but
they'll also exclusions not included. Yeah. So if there's if we they want to do like bulk printing of this, you know, 30 copies of the report, stuff like that, that stuff's not included, but we get all the basic >> we get the we get >> Yeah. >> disc drive flash.
>> Yep. We got a flash drive with all of it and we'll have access. Can I'm trying to remember if there was was there online access to it? They had a a trying to remember if they had a login. believe they did they'll be able to access for a while as well to be able to pull off of the cloud. So,
>> and it's a relatively quick turnaround, three to four weeks. So, >> yeah, there was a schedule. So, that's that's great. And this will involve, you know, we'll bring in the fire department, first responders, they'll be part of this um
public works. They'll get um they'll have a lot of involvement to where they begin that then we get into the the actual three to four weeks. So, >> any other questions or comments? Seeing none, we'll do a voice vote. >> We need to designate where the money's
coming from first. already coming from what we had budgeted with the exception of the $900. That's a difference. And whether we pull that from Kain or >> I I can pick one or you guys can tell me where it's >> Yeah. But I'm just saying other than that the base amount for the the 8,100's
already been in our budget for the year. >> Yeah. I don't care where it comes from whether it's the best >> I mean I can make the best we can talk about it make the best choice for it's fine. So but Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. Um the voice hold please.
>> All right. Mayor Ior. >> Hi. >> Councelor Phillips. >> Hi. >> Councelor Spring. >> Hi. >> Councelor Ricewer. >> Hi. >> Councelor Pentagrass. >> Nay. >> 41. Thank you. >> Next item is resolution
2026-04. The resolution of city council of the city of Oronoko Minnesota charitable contributions from the 10% gambling fund. Whereas the city of Oron Oakco receives monthly revenue of 10% gambling contribution ordinance 13.07 Bill 7. And
whereas the city of Oronokco has $8,174.75 and 10% gambling contributions from Orono Fire Relief Association to be used on or before the last day of February 2026 by definition of the Minnesota Gambling
Control Board via Minnesota statute state statute 349.23. And now therefore be it resolved that the city council of the city of Oronoko Minnesota does hereby approve these dollars to be granted through charitable donations to the following entities in the specified amounts
or Lions Club community fireworks donation 3000 downtown or gold rush day sponsoring family and community events such as kids zone medallion huntisian alley which is local farmers market and live music in
2000. or local VFW9647 supporting local veteran services 2,000 or local history center $500 or local age friendly $640.75 and it be further resolved that the city
administrator or his authorized designate to take steps necessary for the implementation of this resolution. So, with that, I make a motion we approve the resolution. >> I'll second it for discussion.
>> Uh, yeah, it's interesting because uh I'm just going what we had approved in the ordinance just earlier this evening. And if you look at it on three uh would be Minnesota statute 349.12 subdivision 7A
may be amended from time to time or police fire and other emergencies or public service related services equipment and training. This is what it's supposed to go for. Uh unfortunately I don't see where uh the
fireworks is a part of that. I don't see where downtown gold rush is a part of that. BFW is a part of that or noco history center is a part of it. So there's nothing that's in here that should be going to what we want to have which is for the fire department and for
equipment and training and fire and police and other emergency public safety. So it does not fit to what we had just approved. even does say charitable contributions right above what you just read.
So >> So can I can I be heard on it? So what you can spend it the money on is anything in subdivision 25 of that same statute clauses 1 through 7 or 10
through 15 or 19. or you can um uh donate the money for equipment for those um fire and police equipment basically. So I it's not that
I think Jim is reading it to mean that um he's reading it to have that it has to go to police, fire, other emergency public safety equipment training excluding pension obligations. But it's it's any of those things or something
listed in Minnesota statute 34912 subdivision 7A. And then if you go to that statute, that 7A statute, it references subdivision 25 paragraph 8 clauses 1 through 7, 10 through 15 or 19. So, and then if you go down to read
those, I'm not going to read them all, but you know, number one, for example, says any expenditure by or uh by or contribution to a 501c3 for festival or festival organization
as this defined in subdivision 15A, provided that the organization and expenditure or contribution are in conformity with the standards prescribed by the board under statute, which standards must apply to both types of organizations to the same extent. So, and then you know you can go to B
contribution or expenditure for goods or services for an individual or family suffering from poverty. Yeah, you can read them down 1 through 7, 10 through 15 or 19. So, I I haven't independently checked this resolution to determine if what you're proposing to
spend the money on is allowable or not. Um, I assume you guys are doing that when you're, you know, distributing this this money. Um, I think that the fireworks is probably the one that does fit because
it's for gold rush days, right? Isn't that during gold rush? >> July. >> Fourth of July. Okay. Yeah. Okay. >> What I'm what I'm looking at, there's there's nothing here that has anything to do with fire or first responders.
and they're the ones that are donating the money. There's there's nothing here. >> So, I'll speak to that again. It's fire relief who is required to give the money, not donate the money. And my understanding, we have a deadline to
spend the money by. Um, that wasn't done in 2025. So we are putting forward ideas in the community which the city can donate these funds to to help these community organizations outside of the fire relief who's their own separate organization that may donate to many of
these as well. The city's looking to donate to them these groups and help these groups within our community which is why they were put forward this way. My my suggestion would be that they help us determine where they should be spent
and how they should be spent because I agree if they're if they're willing to put the effort in to to do the gambling and do all the work, they should have an input that obviously goes through council, but they should have a say of where this money goes because they're doing the work.
>> Is that is that for any organization that comes in and does gambling in the future? >> I would think so. I would think that that would be the case, too. >> That would be my I mean, >> it's only the the the fair way to do really. >> You may pick the same ones, but they
should at least have a say in it would be my my opinion. >> Can I can I address the council about this? >> So, the the fire relief does does give money every year to different
organizations. the past few years, we've given money to the VFW for some kitchen like range hood um things. Um even in March, we're we're doing um something with the um age friendly ornoo um where
we're doing the relief is giving $250. Um and actually think bank is giving another $250 to have a puzzle night at the fire station. Um other things that like last year I think the fire relief gave $1,000 to the fireworks. Um every
year we give to the Grace Foundation. Um there's there's other charitable organizations that we give to. So um just you know we don't you know publicize that. Um but but there is plenty of money that's that's going out for those organizations in and around
our community. So >> yeah, if you look at the 1 through 7, 10 through 15 and 19, I don't know where fireworks would fit in those situations. >> I think that the line was listed as a
501c3 for >> charitable contribution was just how it fit in. >> Okay. >> Was that it is a 501c3. And just for just if you let me add for clarification just kind of how we ended up here and what the intent of the
resolution ended up being um is the 10% gambling um dollars really should be getting distributed quarterly if not semianually throughout the year. Um the city certainly would support any of these dollars going back to fire for
equipment or training which we have done much of that in the past. Unfortunately, just due to lack of understanding or help or whatnot, how that process works is um fire would want to make a purchase
or um come to council with a purchase knowing or or a quote um and saying we'd like to make this purchase. We'd like to use dollars from the 10% gambling fund to pay for that ex instead of using our budget. Um and a resolution then would be um would be drawn up for that. And so
those monies would be given for that specific equipment or training and that would that would be said in the resolution. We could do that every single month of the year if you want to. It doesn't have to be quarterly or annually. That's not mandated. Um it's just kind of how we've done it because
that did not take place um during 2025. Um we do have a legal LG 510 uh gambling report that has to be filed by the end of February. we have a balance the balance that's listed there in your resolution of the order that need to be dispersed before the end of February so
that that form can be uh filed in time. Uh so what we did was we found uh 5013C's which are um a legal way that these funds can be dispersed um without a without an invoice in hand um that we could designate tonight so that we can
file that form in time by the last day of February. And so that's sort of the intent or where where the resolution came from. I do not disagree that the fire relief could have been included in this list and could still be added in this list if you wanted to change or amend the resolution the way that it is.
Um that's entirely up to council. >> And I'll add to that, you know, we put on here some certain things. I don't know that necessarily putting in there that the it's for community fireworks. We can't necessarily say, "Hey, Lions Club, you have to use this for this." like it would be more of just a general
donation to these in these individual groups for whatever services they see fit >> and they are all 501c3 so they would fit the mandated mandated intended use by the state >> and you you say that the fire department's got to come with an invoice
of what they have is there been an invoice given to us by the Lions Club by Gold Rush by VFW that >> ask us for the equipment and and and training >> but I the way that the state regulates that those monies be dispersed has to be
through an invoice and check. >> I just think I just think this is very poor. Um I I I think that you're you're giving >> no consideration for all the work that the relief does. And um I I I really
think that it's poor really really really poor. very poor on how the city looks at at the fire relief and all the work that they do. And that's the attitude that you have. That's what you're given to the fire department and the relief and all their work.
>> I'm going to disagree with that from the city administrative side. That is not our belief. Um so I just want that being out there that I fully disagree with that. That may be your a feeling and opinion on it, but that's not the fact. So >> I believe that you're the city
administrator and we're city council. So, we're talking as council of what we do. Okay. So, I appreciate that and I respectfully hear you, but again, this is council. >> Can I say something? >> Go ahead.
>> I mean, the Orno Firefighters Relief Association is a 501c3, which is probably the only one not listed in your donation list. And then I also want to remind you that I think because you approved
um option A earlier, you probably still need to accept our January donation >> and we'll have to do that at the March. We'll have to have a resolution in March for that. >> So, who made the motion for this one? >> I didn't res >> I for discussion.
>> So, I would like I I disagree, Jim, that that's how that we're treating them that way and that's how it comes off. I think 10% of the gambling um fund coming back to the city is
us giving them basically free reign to do the gambling here. They don't have any other competition. But with that being said, I would like to make a friendly amendment to this that half of each one of those
dollar amounts be taken and given to the fire relief with the designation for going to the equip some of the equipment that they're upgrading this year. And I don't know if we can designate it that way, but
>> and it would just be a it would just be a check. >> Be a check. Okay, that would be my friendly amendment to that. And then I think that we really do have to look at how we're doing this in the future. I um
would like more discussion earlier than um just a few days in advance to have we're just kind of on a tight line, but I would take half of each one of those dollar amounts and distribute
that to the fire relief. >> So the 8174 half of that would go to fire >> and we' just be splitting splitting the rest of those donations in half evenly. >> I can ac I can accept Daniel's
offer there. I think it's I think that's a good way to to do that to be fair in the in the short term here. just being off the cuff when we're doing this. >> So, I um I made the motion, so I'll
accept the friendly amendment. >> I think the only other thing for discussion is I agree, Daniel. I think we should do this earlier and often and bring fire relief into the conversation of where money should be spent and bring it here with them um as that
partnership >> and and um I I agree that that that's a a way to amend what's going on and I think they should be involved with where those guys put in so much effort that there is to keep track of everything
that that they're goes along and it looks like it's freebie that they have to do it. The amount of work and effort that's put in is unbelievable, you know. So, um I guess I'm the I appreciate what you're
saying and I don't think anybody meant this to be a slight um disrespectful. We do though that the for the fire relief association, everybody associated with the fire department, they do a great job. They like the
training. We like the training. There's full respect. I I just feel like it's something that the 10% gives back to the city where the city's being able to have a fire department and function and budget money for the fire department and they can can do go out and do these
gambling events and sponsor. It does take a lot of work and the city supports that and will continue to support that. Uh I just feel like this is a a way back to con to contribute to the community uh for what the city gives the fire department and forest responders the
opportunity to do what they do so well. So I would like I'll accept the amendment, but I do think there is a there is a a purpose and a need to give back to the community and that's what this 10% does. Yes, I agree with that. I agree with
that. That allows >> allows uh the to give back to the community and and most of this gambling I would say is probably done by or no taxpayers at least a big big chunk of it. Um so this is giving back to the
community on their behalf as well. So but I think that with the time crunch that's just a fair way to handle this tonight. Um, any other comments?
So, the motion has been amended to to split the $8,174 between the fire relief and the donations listed on resolution >> 2026-04. >> We'll modify the language of the resolutions to reflect that.
There's no other comments. We do a voice vote. Mayor >> I course. >> Hi. >> Councelor Phillips. >> Hi. >> Councelor screen. >> I councelor Riceford. >> Hi. >> Councelor Penigrass. >> Hi. >> I vote. Thank you. Next item is the consent agenda.
I make a motion to approve the consent agenda. Second. I'd like to pull the flaker license out. >> Okay. >> What purpose? >> I just wanted to discuss that. I think
we agreed prior that liquor licenses should be separate of the consent agenda. >> Yeah, we had talked about that last year. >> I don't think that uh >> I don't necessarily have an issue with consent. I I think the need for it, but
I just wanted to pulled out separately. >> That's the right way to do it. I agree 100%. He talked about that. So, >> yeah, we had um Phillies permit and the gold rush licensing agreement.
>> Uh I would I would like to pull page 77 and 79 on the gold rush licensing agreement. Uh on number five on the right ofway use
it shows for first avenue northwest from Center Street to Fourth Street Northwest >> and there shows both sides of the street are being used for uh for gold rush booths and there is no I brought it up
last year that on the east side of on the east side of First Avenue from Center Street to the fire hall. There is no rightway space there for the city for gold rush to be using it. There's a uh utility
easement there, but that doesn't give them the right to use it as for that space. My prop my our property itself goes right back about six inches off the black top. Uh, that's a good point, Paul.
>> Yeah, I just see it striped both ways on the uh >> on on the map on page 79 >> and I just think them them two them two blocks. I know down there behind behind Fluffy's place, he he gives you guys
gives it gold rush permission, but I guess I'm not giving him permission to set vendors in it in our backyard. >> Street. >> It hasn't been They haven't been there before. And there's no reason to give that now.
They have the rest of the space. >> That's a second street. Paul, we're just talking. I think you might have an old one. Mel said it got updated in exhibit A.
What number, Mel? >> It says Fourth Street is all or does say? >> Paul, is it page 84 and 85 you're talking about? >> Yeah, I'm look I'm looking I'm looking at what uh I'm looking exhibit B for the
gold rush map. >> Yeah, that's right. on on a row number five. It still says Fourth Street. >> It's number It's number five on exhibit A on the rightways. >> We did amend that number five to Second
Street versus Fourth Street, which um should have been in the um the amended agenda copy, but we can certainly um make that amendment here today. >> It should be from from first
avenue. This says it's from from West Center to 4th Street Northwest. >> Yeah, that's Mel saying that we should change that. >> Number five needs to be amended. You're correct. >> Yep. Okay. Thank you.
>> Right on your >> No, but I talked to her about this before we put it in. I was like, we did this last year with Paul. We want to make sure we get the right one in there. I I've tried Paul. I really did. >> It's all good. >> It's all good. I just wanted to bring it up.
>> Thank you. The other needs to be on uh on the next page under Orle City Park, 3105th Street. Item number three or one of those should include the uh duck duck derby
>> that's missing. >> Which number was that web page on that? It's on exhibit. >> It doesn't. We can submit a revised copy to you. >> Let's just submit a revised. We have time to do a revised language. No problem. So,
>> we put it in for next month and just revise it. >> Just pull that out to table for next month. Then >> it's part of exhibit A at the end. Exhibit A has a uh Oracle City Park 310. There's two points and there there
should be a third point. Duck Derby at Oracle Parks. >> It just it didn't get it's been corrected. It's just not in the packet. >> I think we said we' just pull it out and then bring it back >> with it updated.
I'd also like to pull the Till's gathering permit just for discussion. >> Do we just have those two permits that we're going to discuss? >> Just a liquor and fertiliz table >> and table the other one.
>> So the you want you want to take the off sale one? >> No. tableing the >> agreement >> and then pulling the liquor license and the gathering agreement for Tilly's out
for discussions. >> All right. So, we'll vote on the consent of those two things being pulled. All in favor of the consent agenda items. >> Voice and voice.
>> Yes. Hi, >> Councelor Phillips. >> Hi, >> Councelor Springs. >> Hi, >> Councelor Eisorfer. Hi, >> Councelor Penigrass. >> Hi. >> Make a motion then since we're looking at the consent agenda with the two that
have been pulled out, which is for the gathering permit uh for Tilly's. Make a motion to approve that. >> Second. I'll second it for discussion. >> My my only comment is will they let
residents know about this? >> They have in the past every year that they've done business. >> So we'll make sure there's a public awareness because those houses and they've been good for the last two years. So >> as long as they do that, I'm >> Yeah.
Do I make a motion again to approve? I'll second that. >> We spoke. Mayor I >> councelor Phillips. >> Hi. >> Councelor Spring. >> Hi. >> Councelor Risorfford. >> Hi. >> Councelor Penigrass. >> Hi.
>> And then I'll make a motion to approve the offsale liquor license for Two Sisters Kitchen. >> I'll second that. >> Discussion. I just I think there's a need need to replace what one we lost.
>> Um the only thing that I would How many off sales are we going to allow have in the city? And >> we don't really have anything in code, right? >> Um it's always kind of been at the council's discretion. I think that's something we should look at moving
forward as we potentially get more commercial growth and stuff like that. I do know a lot of cities. >> Um but as of right now there's nothing that says there's a set number of them. >> So they >> I was just saying and and we're watching
it I think is council. >> Yeah. >> You know and again we were approving what there was that but the show got >> it got approved before. >> Yeah. And so, and again, it's it's one of those things you have to turn around
and have the >> be able to pay for the inventory before you sell. >> You know, it's a matter of who's got the Tilly's the fire hall. There's Tilly's there's two sisters restroom
closed >> future and then we are competing against people that off sales that we've approved for. So that's just kind of contradicting, but that would be future, >> right? And and again, we originally did
have that and that was pulled back. >> That was a while ago, right? Yeah. >> And just so council is aware, the off sale um and the uh the offsale liquor license at the snack attack former root gas and gole is still a valid liquor
license. They are closed or inoperational or they're selling to someone else. We're not sure what's happening there. We know they're they're not the doors are not open right now, but that license is still a valid license um through the last day of July of 2026 if council should consider to
make any change to that. >> I think we have to bring that up next meeting that there is and and discuss that at that time. >> Probably just wait till renewal forum I would imagine. or if it's closed and the business is closed then
>> then it's not issue. Yeah, we could that is one thing that I I I don't think that we should be having, you know, five, six off sales in the city moving. >> I I I agree. I agree. >> Um >> on sale there's limits there by population. I think
>> that's Yeah, >> that's something we need to talk as well. >> Yeah. Yeah, we have one. So that might be something that we just have to get in the books as we're two sisters. >> Two sisters and >> one greener
>> that hasn't come up yet. >> Permit on sale permit still available based on population. >> There's one. So greener. We have one available. >> One still available. >> Oh based on population >> and that's the city ordinance that
>> it's in the code. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And we do have that potent we potentially have greener. So we need to apply for that. I wouldn't touch it. >> All those in favor of two sisters off sale liquor license applicator.
>> Please call the voice vote. Thank you. >> Hi. >> Council Phillips. >> Hi. >> Councelor Spring. Hi. >> Councelor Risor. Hi. >> Councelor Pendigrass. >> Hi. >> Make a motion to approve. Second
>> favor. I >> very good. Thanks everybody. >> Thank you Paul. >> Have a good night. >> Have a good night. A tax >> 812.