[Music] all right this is our April city council meeting it's April 15th so with that we'll call to order if you are thinking about speaking for the public forum please fill out a form that's on the podium with your name address and bring
that up to me please with that we'll do the call to order all right mayor Akor here councelor Pentigrass here councelor Phillips here councelor spring here councelor Risorfer here and then we have President Joe Palin city administrator our new city
clerk Kane Dolan's here and Mike Flity is online yeah next item is our agenda and um I would like to add two items under the there's three items two items under
the employee recy relations committee on 406 it's J Hi um just a couple things our ERC committee would like to talk about a one item is administrative
day coming up soon talk about that and the other item is a staff review completion day of June 13th for all of our city staff so our annual reviews we'd like to have that completed and documented in our minutes and the other
item is under streets and roads item JB streets and roads is to schedule a street review with our street committee sometime in late April early May so we can have something for the May uh council meeting
and I would like to add under new business number C like to discuss Herb's uh situation with this water val that's under V C i also have an edit under parks and
trails um action two on the fiscal agent for the park audit just to reflect that we want to accept that 2700 grant from Mstead County um and then use the perk committee to um
work on paying those invoices as they come through so that was under I um under park and trails I action two i said which one under parks and trails action
two to edit the motion on allowing us to accept the $2700 grant for parks and trails audits and then use the park committee to pay those invoices action two
motion to recommend i want to approve that grant did we get those amendments what was the streets and roads ones again real quick [Music] the first one is the ERC
no just the streets and roads oh um April May Street review committee yeah what was the What did you want oh you to do a street review we had a committee goes out and early late May or late April early May
come back for the May council meeting with a proposal for you okay so we have um two items under ERC administrative day and staff reviews
date by June 13th under street and roads a May re street review prepare for the May council meeting under a new business item CRBS water connection and the last one is under
parks and trails under second to apply second one a motion to recommend approval of the $2,700 from Homestead area Hley
Committee for the audit park a make a motion we approve those admissions for amendments to the council agenda second any other
comments seeing none all those in favor signify by saying I i post okay next item is our public forum it's a three time limit per person the city council welcomes encourages participation from community members
please keep in mind that your comments must be pert city business and must adhere to data privacy rules and no employees names may be used please do not expect action from the council this evening regarding your concerns to address the city council during public forum head up to the podium state your
name and address and fill out white cards provided and speakers will be going recognized once you will be timed begin speaking when the green card is raised um by Jason yellow card indicates you have 30 seconds left red card indicates
you have reached your 3m minute time limit and must stop so with that I hope public forum will open up at 6:37 p.m have three here i think the question was from Joyce
my name 6006th Street Southwest in Oronokco uh first I'm going to be speaking um on behalf of Kevin McDermott he wanted to be here tonight but he is sick so he
asked me to speak uh Kevin's a former mayor committee member for parks and uh has been helpful in the city for quite a bit um he wanted to speak in support of
foregoing the $30 charge for the room charge for the seniors meetings or daytime meetings um he is saying uh that there is a pre precedent set in the past years of not having a charge for those
meetings uh the seniors have made donations to improvements to the community center over the years and also if you notice there is a name on the door for seniors so those are his comments uh the
other thing I would like to speak to tonight is just kind of update you on what age friendly or noco area has been up to over the last year uh we had our resource fair in April of
2024 last fall we became a 501c3 organization and we have a nonprofit status as well um we are working with the past seniors group to restart
meetings to help the community have uh activities for them and socialization we're also working with the Orno Park Committee on their request um to be part of helping the park audit
grant that was received from age friendly Homestead County and just last night with the help from the Ornoo Fire Relief Association we received a grant and now we'll be printing brochures
we're hoping to get at least 250 brochures printed and we will be distributing them to the fire department and first responders to pass out when they go on a call that they call the fall call in case an adult has fallen
and also if they're in a situation where they see a vulnerable adult um we're also looking to place brochures around the community the community center here our uh post office and other areas as
well thank you okay so I came to the the water sewer meeting this week and explained to them what I think that's happened in my driveway so all I'm asking is uh some
responsibility from the city because I think the curb stop was left too high so I couldn't drive on it and if I did it would put pressure down on the connections and a broken
you know and I I did the diagnosing myself pretty much by uh letting the water on because we thought it might be bros but it wasn't so now I'm stuck with $175 water
bill normally it's 50ome dollars but uh I I just think that the city should pay for some of this uh it's about a
$3,500 bill but uh I already paid Bman excavating most of his and uh he's helping and I appreciate
being helping uh because I I I think he should have anyway because it's the city's curb stop you know and and According to what I've read the city is responsible for
maintaining the curb stop and it was just left too high i'm supposed to be able to drive on it but now Kane he cut it down so the the box that goes on top
is is good it won't be hitting the top of the riser anymore so I I really believe uh that's what caused it to happen because it uh I don't think it's going to break by
itself sitting underground without nothing moving it something moved it so uh I guess if I thought I wasn't right I wouldn't be making anything up about this this is
and I don't think I'm setting precedence by the city helping with this because it was the city's curb stop that's that caused it so really I think that it's the city's
responsibility but like I say I'm willing to pay for pay for it and I would just like the city to look into that and uh thank you okay um anybody else like to speak for
public [Music] forum have you filled out a card yeah please do go ahead you want me to start talking now and fill it out afterwards or you can do it afterwards okay so I'm Josh Kushan i live at 1440 Cedar Point
Road Southeast and I'm not here to speak about anything that's happening tonight from what I could see on the agenda but I did email out to the city administrator today and received a a very prompt reply that I was impressed by um regarding a situation with the
upcoming development of condos uh with within the plots of land that include the the bus depot and um first we're excited uh as a family we're excited to see this being developed as residential
too seeing that um we've had a lot of discussions in the in the past couple years about what what things are zoned for and we fully support reszoning the the the commercial sliver of land u over to R2 to have that development come in
um just wanted to show up tonight and be on record saying that we were disappointed when reviewing the proposed plan that they currently have um to see that one of the exits one of their seven exits that they have for this community
that they plan to build is directly across from our driveway that exits onto Cedar Point Drive Southeast so we just have some safety concerns with that and and in general um we were thinking that it seemed like
an awful lot of entrances and exits and there was some concern with it being pretty close to the stop sign that's at Norman Street as well so we realize it's just a proposal at this point there's still a lot of moving parts that go into
it but just not knowing if I'd be able to attend any future city council meetings I wanted to go on record and and say that we're we have concerns about it and we would ask the developer uh consider uh an alternate entrance or
exit at those those south east locations thanks you crack i'm sorry okay thank you second call for public [Music] forum third and final call for public
forum anybody on the Is there anybody on the line that would like to speak to public forum seeing none I close the public forum at 6:47 right
an agenda item amended agenda items we all have or is it on the agenda They added it under new business there's this item C i've got A and B
that was an addition so that was on the agenda it was an addition to Paul added it puppy does not have seal well no we just added it we added it with all the other is closed so continue
on 649 third item is a petition ruby regarding request for appreciation event i make a motion to accept the
petition i'll second that so I guess the comments are typically we close at think 11 hours uh midnight is the request and that's typical that's what she did last year um so they pretty
much is everything the same as last year what they did so does she have to pay a gathering permit this is the gathering permit already been paid okay y basically all we're doing here is just approving yeah yeah the extension of the
the time frame there for the noise ordinances and things like that and kind of give them that approval to do it so make a motion we approve um the petition to I already did the in the second yep
i'm sorry any other comments seeing none all those in favor signify by saying I i next item is a request by the EDA committee would like to move forward with their city branding initiative and
Jamie would like comments you like to add yeah add a couple comments if the group was good start need to open up for discussion before anything i'll make a motion we approve the EDA request
second great all right thank you everybody thank you for having me i'm going just have a couple prepared comments and then I'm prepared also to answer any questions that you might have as well um so good evening um I'm Jamie Rothy i live here in Oronoko 990 Cedar Point Lane i'm also a member of the EDA as
well and I'm here tonight on behalf of the Ornoco EDA to share um this exciting opportunity that we see for our future of our city and respectfully request your partnership um in this next step specifically in your packet you'll see that we're asking the city council to
consider co-investing with the EDA in the development of a new city logo and identity um in collaboration with a marketing firm known as Tulip Tree just a brief background um and some context to this ask um through the EDA's recent community engagement which we
know many of you were a part of recall we sent out a city survey we also did inerson sessions we gathered valuable insights from our community members and our residents on what their aspirations are for Orco in these findings we highlighted a collective desire to preserve our town's unique character
while embracing thoughtful growth and modernization and that's really where we started to have some conversations about um the growth of our community and the look and feel of our brand and what that could do for our future um as you know the city logo serves as a visual
embodiment of these shared goals um it can honor a rich history at the same time um help us think about the future the EDA has secured a $10,000 grant to help with this work and that was the work from Rebecca who we hired with Suda to help lead the EDA and allow us to
bring us professional experience um without placing the full financial responsibility on the city and what we're asking today is that the city considers a financial contribution to this support and help shape the updated um uh community center identity for Orco
um we feel that uh with the recent sewer completion um with the potential growth of our future right now is a great time um for us to be thinking about a new look and feel um it will help us to serve and attracting new residents new visitors and new
businesses um we also feel that it's more than just an image um it's helping us to create a sense of pride and belonging and unity all things that came up in our survey as well we also want to recognize that we have a deep value for our heritage of this community and we understand that some
residents feel a strong connection to the existing logo and what represents particularly gold rush days we want to be super clear that this process will not erase our past um and instead it will help support it and build upon it gold Rush Days remains an important part
of Orno's history and our story um but it's not the only story that we have to tell or no is growing we're a river town a family town a welcoming town and we feel it's a great time um for us to work together to find a look and feel that represents that all uh we feel like
partnering with Tulip Tree means that the this will be an engagement first process so you see that in the packet that uh the organization is suggesting that we do some community engagement along the way um we see a group of people coming together representatives from the EDA from city council
businesses and community members to be a part of this process and helping to um bring forward a new look and feel um so in closing I just ask that the city council supports the investment of or's future and we look forward to working with you um on this endeavor thank you
thank you Jamie okay any questions or comments regarding the request i will say I'll talk a little bit about my part i also included a letter in there to mayor and council here um you know the
big struggle they were having with for a while there was um finding the funding for this they have the grant for 10,000 which is awesome they went out and were able to get that um but you know after reviewing the three different companies they had uh and picking the one that
felt best suited their needs they're they're still short on funding um they do want to move forward with this and you know at the end of the day I think that they'll entertain options no matter what to try to move forward with it um however having the appropriate funding to to do it right the first time and get
everything done that we need to is important uh with that I went back and looked at some of my um budgets and where I might be able to cut some of my funding um and transfer it over to a budget amendment to the EDA and looking at our two positions under my um budget
sections for the deputy clerk or now clerk and our administrative assistant we will have unused funds coming from there um for the year for the three months that we didn't have people in those positions and this is strictly from the salaries um budget line item it doesn't
include any of the other ones for that we budget for PARA and retirement and all these other ones this is strictly from the salary line where we budget our annual pay overtime and uh any other expenses there so looking at that you'll see in the memo with our deputy clerk
you know we I think realistically looking at the numbers we probably had um closer to $21,000 of unused funds in salaries alone um and then with the administrative assistant we had um a little over $8,000 of unused funds so I
took that and I said "Okay you know they're as they asked me for 10." Um but I did this to show that you know we could put 20,000 uh amend the budget for up to 20,000 to help cover their costs um and it would still allow us room in our budget to make sure that we're
funding the two employees that we now have in those positions so you'll see that you know I support this from the administrative side i think this is a very important um initiative for the not just for us but for the city as a whole um like Jamie talked about there's a lot
happening a lot growing a lot changing we're not trying to change our background or our history especially when it comes to Gold Rush that's always going to be a stable part of this community um but it's time to to do this branding initiative and get everything together and this will be an initiative
that will last us 10 20 years before we need to redo this so it's a it's a solid investment in the community itself so with that you know part of this is saying okay um you know they're going to if the approval comes to do this they
will start moving forward with their 10,000 and then next month I would bring forward a budget amendment resolution to have present to council for the remainder of the $10,000 is probably what it'll end up being so but I just wanted to explain to council that this is how we're going to get there and that
it can be done budget amendments are common practice in cities they happen as moving things around we're not going up or down with our budget we're just moving it from one line item to a different line item to help support the city as it moves forward so
thank you any other comments questions yeah I I I see what what and and again um I believe that u or noco and one of the only communities that's been in this area with the gold rush that there is and had
a gold rush which makes uco very unique in itself um and and I I understand wanting to to do this i I just think that the way we have the budget right now what's going on and we're looking at April we don't know what the rest of the year has
to show for itself that we might need the other funds might be something else like a flood that comes like we had last year that did it um I would just uh suggest that we turn around and put this for next year for our budgeting for next year which is only going to be a few
months off before we do the budget office stuff because I don't think making a difference on that this year is going to make a difference um but I think that it's a good direction but I'd like to have it for next year's budget that we work on for EDA
be clear what is the current motion there is no motion there is no motion there should be discussion discussion right now how long would the branding take like what's the turnaround time
it's in the proposal yeah she has a speaker she has like 14 weeks something a proposal was 17 oh 16 to 30 weeks and page 18 had some of the different fees
that went along with it so you're talking seven months that was kind of around that six to eight month time frame I think which which is pretty common for most of the companies that the three companies that were looked at and reviewed so you know
engagement and all all of that as well so that adds time the concern with I will I will say the concern I think they they spoke about as well with pushing it back because there was thought of budgeting it for next year is okay well we're still pushing it back another 6 to
8 months into next year as well so now it's not just a year it's a year and a half two years it's being pushed back so they this is a project they're passionate about and they want to move forward with and I think it's good that our you know committees are passionate about their projects and and doing the
work and putting in the the work that they need to for them i am curious what what what branding does for the city well I think it I support what we're proposing here i do think that um it was
in our um goals for the EDA third EDA EDA together for 2025 so I I support it because I think it's it's the recognition um that we we've separated gold rush from city activities it's still a very
big part of our city and will continue to be part of our city but I think as a city we're to a point with our growth potential growth with the sewer plant and um future additions that we're talking about i do think we do need to
uh reidentify ourselves and um I think this is a a great approach to um to doing that and u Paul sorry if I may Paul I'll answer your question real quick some of the key points that branding will do for the city um they can improve public
perception attract new residents and businesses enhance community pride support economic development and tourism unifying community and identity reflect change or growth and help stimulate engage engagement and visioning those are some of the key bullet points of what branding will do for a city which
as we come into a city that's growing I think that's very important to have all that done i think that we have uh the growth right now that's coming into the city without the rebranding at this point this year uh for what's going on so that's why I'm
saying I don't think it's going to make a difference at all this year but I'd like to have it for the budget for next year where we can budget it that way um just you know again every I think most every community that there is around has a sewer plant i
mean you know to brag we got a sewer plant that is not really a way to to brag about it but um the growth is coming organically of what's happening right now uh with we're talking about a new development that's coming in right now with with what's going to be
presented this evening you know so the the growth is there you know gold rush crossing whatever might happen there is is bringing in that part of it um I think people are actually trying to to beat a path to or noco right now with
without doing the rebranding and again I say that there's nothing wrong with that i agree with doing it but I'd like to do it next year instead of this year i think it's probably pretty important to get the ball rolling on this and part of it is for that reason
that we are expecting this growth if we get new businesses coming in and they want to use a logo that we that we have right now we don't really have one we have the the bridges it's kind of grainy um I think that it's been great ever
since Facebook just switched over our city Facebook just switched over to the old bridge logo and now it's very easy to differentiate between what the citizens page is and what is actually coming from the city so I think that has been really important and that's just a
small reason why a logo could help the city and getting the ball rolling but we don't want to have these businesses coming in and using old logos and then they're going to have to update things another another point that I would like to say is that once we have these logos
and this brand this this is ours we own it and we can actually profit off of that as well to recuperate some of the cost so we can put the logo on mugs or t-shirts or and it's not a lot and I wouldn't cover the
whole cost but it can cover some of it so I think getting the ball rolling just for uniformity um we've got we've got the people that are passionate about this right now um I think it's important to keep going
with it and keep the uniformity no again I I understand what you're going with i just want to do it for next year's budget again new businesses i don't see a whole lot of businesses that are going to be coming in in the next six months you know maybe one restaurant that there is but the rest of it there's
no buildings to be able to have the businesses coming in so again I'm saying I agree with what you're doing i just want to do it for next year's budget with the grant is there pieces of it that we could capitalize on it so if we said we really are focused on a logo I
know that they they have their whole spiel of doing all of the pieces but could we say we just want graphic design and we want a logo and here's our budget we only have 10,000 like could we could we do something with that if we're not going to get the whole package sure so
our um members of the EDA met with Tulip Tree a couple weeks ago just to talk about the flexibility um and what their team had shared and Jason feel free to correct me if I'm wrong said you know there is some flexibility in the proposal um but each of them build on the next one so that's why um there is
the engagement and it's does have dollars attached to it because we want to make sure that we're using that process to inform it that it's not just someone choosing something um we also feel that that will help in some of the other community engagement that we've done is to continue to build you know unity and community and we feel like
that's an important piece i think a part of this um grant and Jason you remind me that there has to be some matching to it do you remember I'd have to look into any matching sounds good um so we felt like um she said she can their team said
they could work with us we could put in language up to a certain amount um but each of those pieces were really important and I think the the big thing too was that was talking with them even still you're looking at 15,000 you know cuz like I said you still got to get
those base ones done to build up to the the rest of it so the project's still going to end up being over the $10,000 so there's still that need for extra funding i just think if if the budget's 10,000
like what could we do with that money and maybe it's not the whole kitten kaboodleoodle but it's something to continue us to to move forward and then again next year maybe it is a a more in-depth kind of engagement for
some of those pieces i'm just wondering like how do we capitalize on what we can do and what we have control over with the money we have the other concern I think and correct me if I'm wrong Jamie the the grant is only for this year do you remember i do believe it's only for this year yeah so that's the other issue
is we reapply for a grant and we don't know if we'll get it if we turn this down and don't then we're kind of I mean what if we did like the community engagement part of it that there is on looking at this and have some design ideas to be working with the community
with that and and to let them know we want to move ahead but we want to do it for next year's budget but to turn around and maybe move some of these community parts ideas that there might be to take a look so we'll keep the project moving you know but yet still have that
money for next year that's why I just It's a good question i think take drawing out the process long might we might run into some issues um on kind of building momentum towards a finished product i mean I think at the EDA level
we did talk about um if there wasn't capacity to do a matching 10 if the council would consider like a matching five um and the owners of Tulip Tree said they would work try to work the best they could within this to get the best product out um that would be um a
potential as well we could work with them to say this is what we have and how would we manage it what we wanted to try to stay away from is that I'm not a marketing specialist i'm not a branding specialist i've done it before with people but we don't want to start pulling pieces out we want them to say "Okay this is our budget and what can
you deliver?" Um and she was um suggesting um sort of a range of I think 15 to 22 is what I wrote down Jason from our conversation is that you know best will get you 22 good will get you 15 and you know in the middle um but that's
kind of the ranges of what some of the other communities have worked with and where they've found success so the branding was one of our when we set up our economic development authority one of our branding was you was one of our goals for 2015 and uh we think it's it's
it's the right timing you know the timing is four to seven months by the time the project's over with so the idea is that we're in a position going into next year and I do think that we are building excitement we have a two housing developments that we're
looking at to bring people to so it's it is an opportune time and uh there's some commercial businesses that we're looking at as well that has interest in town so I think it is a good time for us to spend our loan that we have for the
10,000 and complement it with the other the 5 to 10,000 that we're talking about here for the total so I do think it's yes we can wait there's no question um but let's build on the enthusiasm we have and um and show and demonstrate to the community that we are looking to
lean forward and um I do think it's you know whether it's um the idea was that we just that was one of our goals from the EDA um the council has given us the responsibility to come back with these designs and and programs and I think
it's important that we seriously consider doing them so I mean went through the process of identifying the companies and we think this is the best company that can offer what we want to do and be able to work with them i mean if and and I understand
what you're saying with that Ryland um if we turned around and and on moving this forward with what we have with with the grant now for the 10,000 and if they could come up with you know four or five uh preliminary
logo ideas and with what we have coming up now with with gold rush coming up this this summer uh we're looking at doing a fourth of July engagement that there is with that as well and also during the summer we we have National
Night Out or whatever we're calling it right now would be able to have some great community involvements that there were to be able to get the input from that of what's going on and show the community that we're moving ahead with what goes on but for the majority of the
rest of it I'd still like to have it in next year's budget to be able to do that maybe we could step it but move the project along so it's not like going we don't want to do anything from now until next year but this would be ideal times
especially with the community involvement which would be great during the summertime to be able to have something like that to show the people that this is direction we're going and and the community to know the involvement that we have with with that to move ahead i don't my concern is that
company any company really you try to work with they're not going to want to drag this out over a year and a half you know when they do these they say okay here's our time and they know that we're going to invest this amount of time in this organization and then move on to our next one and next one type thing to come at them and say oh well we want to
drag this out for a year and a half I don't know what they're going to say to that and I don't know that we're going to have many of them that say oh yeah we want to to do that so again I I draw on the excitement of our citizens involved in the EDA i would also assume that the price will
go up if we're asking for more of their time well their proposal is saying that this work can be completed between four and eight months they're suggesting that this one compared to other cities would be about six so it's currently in their proposal if we go back and ask it's up to that firm to come back to us and say
we want to pull it out longer because of budgets if that is the desire of the council i would imagine that the cost will go up because we're asking for more of their time but if we budget that next year that wouldn't be a big deal of what's really going on because we can put in our budget to be able to take care of that and I wasn't looking at a
year and a half on that jason I think you're exaggerating the year and a half you know between now and January because once we approve the budget that there is behind it they can do the kickoff right away in January which isn't a year and a half down the road but if they started
now and they did the work that there is on coming up as we piece it together I think that will keep the movement going and keep the engagement going and with what's going on in the summer I think it'd be ideal for the community to see some of the things that they might be
doing that way i think it just really depends on how far $10,000 gets us well let's find out what it is it's in the It's in the It's in here but I'm saying like timewise you know what does that equate to $10,000 worth of their time is okay we're going to get us this far but
then you know maybe $10,000 is eaten up in the first two months well now we're still waiting for six months worth of work on the back end or four to six months on the back end that's where I'm getting the year and a half up to i mean but we have the funding to be able to do it so that's why I think it's important
to just do it do the project as a whole and move forward with it so I know it's always easy to to move things and spend things and and see things that are that are there and and want to do it i'm I'm looking also like I said we don't know what the rest of
this year has to bring and what might happen this year you know and and to be on on the smart side that there is behind it um you know again I'm not against the the project at all i'm just I want to do it where we can put it in the budget and have it budgeted for next
year and use the 10,000 now and get started i mean if you get started and and start to spend that again we could always revisit it in like September and if those funds are still available Jason then we give him another check to
continue that i think I would go along with that idea i think that makes sense too to make sure so I think the billing that's outlined in here is there's a 3,000 deposit dollar deposit due at the beginning of the project with subsequent service hours beyond the initial 3,000
build at the end of each month so they'd be billing this hourly monthtomonth um um so once we started getting close to that 10,000 we would probably have to pause it so they wouldn't go over that
10,000 in the middle of a month um but I think that would make an idea what you're talking about Marie to take a look at it that way too i'm just again going in and and changing everything in the budget just because you know it's it's it's there right now we don't know
what the rest of year has to bring we do have a I'll hold if I may i have the feeling if I use 20 three months worth of my employees salary we're going to have lose employees because that's three months of extra time that they're going to be in office working i just
don't see that as a realistic thing i to me it's it's not I we may have major events and we may have stuff and yes there'll be some coverage that we still have extra funding i didn't pull all all the money so I have a I have a problem with that but on the other side of it too okay say we do that and we get down
into September but we have a major event in June well now we're coming back we know we need more money but council's going "No you don't get it because we've used up that money." Now we're back in the same boat where we didn't fund it to begin with and now we're left with well
crap well we've got we got the 10,000 and by the way I I don't use that word in city council meetings but um is there a way you could find out what we could do during that time what we could do with the 10 and and see and come back next month knowing that we want to move
ahead with it and see what we could do that way so I would say from an EDA perspective and our discussion just reflecting on the discussion at the um at our uh meeting because we had a lot of discussion about this because the one um
all the proposals were different costs and so we were looking at that compared to the budget we're looking at deliverables and timelines so it was a really good discussion um we also wanted to talk to Tulip Tree because we wanted to better understand um knowing that we had $10,000 in grant money that we would
need to come to city council for support um our members wanted to talk with Tulip Tree about you know what's included how does it work is there some flexibility in the price um and that is really where I think the discussion landed on you know this 15 to 22 this like would get
you to where you want to be and the types of way in which you want to use the budget so I think that if the council would consider contributing $5,000 to um this project that would be ideal today to walk away from that um if the council is
not um are not comfortable with that I can our team can go back and um and do some discussion but we would need to bring that back to the EDA for discussion and then we would need to go back to Tulip Tree for discussion um which then would get us a limited return
so I and I'm not an expert their proposal lays out how they go through their process and it's a creative process to get us to an end result and they would need to cut things out so that means that we would not get the level of a deliverable that we would want the work that goes into creating that so whether we're cutting out
engagement um or we're cutting out revisions um those are all things that impact your final result so I feel that's why I think you're hearing um the passion from our group coming forward and saying we'd really love to fund this in a way that would get us to a product
that can we can all be proud of know our community's voices in and that we can use it in multiple ways yeah we agreed to that we as as the EDA board we did um take the opportunity to look at the proposals that we had and
um this particular company is is very well known um I believe Steuartville has used them as well uh for their promotions and I think that um you know the council has given EDA the responsibility for economic development
and part of that is to um you've given that to the EDA board obviously to bring to council for approval but you've given us the opportunity to to look at these things and branding is very important um gold rush is is still part of it gold
Rush is still part of Oridokco it's just that it's not part of the cities it's a standalone like the Lions Club and everything so we do have an issue with not an issue but a concern that we really and we've talked about this having from the previous councils having
an identity and uh yes the council cut our hours back uh so now we're down to two versus four times a month that we meet um and I feel like this is this is our good gesture towards the council and
the town um that we need this identity um Gold Rush is still very much a part of that identity but at the same time we think we need to move forward and we felt we looked at two three companies i think we got proposals back and this one
was uh the one we thought was the right one i still think it's the right one they came and talked to us um but I do think that the EDA is is yes it's new eda is is a very integral part of of the u of the city makeup and that's why
that's one of the reasons why we asked for the council's approval to move forward with tulip tree um you know we can still continue um refining the cost and everything but we're just looking and hoping that the council has the the
respect and the uh the wherewithal to give EDA to proceed with our branding program and we feel like this is the best one and and if um if we're going to continue to bring things to the council not that we shouldn't we should of course but I do
think it's important that we recognize that EDA is very key to the city and our growth and um this is the first approach to that it's one of our initial goals that we had for a year and is there a motion on the table no there
isn't no except for for discussion his own emotion it's not uh money you know to agree with with Tulip Tree and and who you picked for for that i I'm I'm I agree with that you know that that that's if that's what you guys have
picked and and reading through their their their literature that they have and who's there i'm I'm I'm I'm bored with that it's not that I'm against that at all you know so yeah I am with with the tulip tree and everything else and
I'm just trying to find a way to make it work with with what there is on the budget that we have we we cut way back on everything this year to to make it good for the residents that there are on on the increase that we had behind it and you know I'm respectful of what goes on with with that
um again I would say you know to to say go ahead and and get started and see what we can do because if we had a preliminary like they showed the different variations of the logos if we had even that that was going on for what's going on during the summer um to
have the different charts that there were and kind of go just to get the impact or the the input that there is from from our citizens on what they like i think that would be important too i would imagine that we can build an engagement strategy that would fit you know the more the public's gathering
during those times to bring those things we start now so that we're ready for summer to be able to do those things if we don't start and do those things process to get to that point we won't have those ready and and I'm not saying because we got the $10,000 we can work
with right now and just I would say that from my experience in working on these types of projects to ask them to start work and not have funding for the rest of it is not a professional approach to it if the council is not um open to
contributing dollars to this budget then we need to go back to an EDA to determine how we want to move forward um because the current proposal does not meet you know does not currently meet it's over 10,000 so we need to go back and have some discussion so it would delay
it even more i think $10,000 ask especially with our budget being so tight and and being April is a hard sell for me i mean I this is important i get that it's just that's that's a lot to try to
I think she dropped it to five i think working with Jason he said he would look at the budget from his perspective to see where is their unspent dollars and so we left that to city administration to say to help guide us and saying what is the appropriate dollar amount to come in so he did that work our team did the
work and Jason joined with tulip tree to understand is there some flexibility proposal without impacting the end result and that's where we started to see more of a range of saying these you know these are the types of dollars that we could work with to get a good final
result which is that 15 to 22 so I think that is if uh the council is open to contributing five $5,000 um to the $10,000 grant that we have that could be a really great um step in the right direction and again we
would work together you know and build a committee together to do that work with that I make a motion that we uh proceed with working with Tulip Tree is our branding program that's the
ask is there any budgetary commitment in addition to the grant well that's you know that's we know the proposal of the 15 so I guess we could I did picked motion that it's it's
15,000 plus and we would come back with a proposal that would be five that we would put in we're not adding 15 to the 10 we have 10,000 available to us so additional five that
we need to use this year so it's the additional funding for that so where do you propose that additional funding come from Jason's Jason's salary on you jason Jason wouldn't let us move take bring forward snowplow money
from last year on how we can take stuff out of one line and give it to another you're trying to bring from last year's budget into this year's budget this is this is already budgeted in this year it's money that's already allocated and approved for this year's budget it was money that was forced into a black
hole we don't know where it went so I I'll second that so the motion is there any additional discussion i think it's it's the time is right yes we can wait a year
um and have the same conversation but there may be something else that comes up but I just think the timing is right it's one of our first objectives from the EDA perspective to help uh with our marketing of Oronoko and I think it's we need the marketing of it and I do think
it's the timing is right and if um can we delay it sure we can delay we can delay a lot of things but I do think that this is one this is one of our key objectives from the ADA and um I think it's it'd be excellent for the city to
proceed with this and and again Ryland uh I'm not saying no and I'm not saying to start from scratch next January i'm not saying that at all i'm trying to to find a way that that we can move and get the community
engagement keeping the 10,000 to get started on the 10,000 that we're moving ahead with this you know now with with Tulip Tree okay the difference is is is seeing I mean if we had that logo or something that the residents could take a look at and say they like it
especially with what's coming up this summer you know I think it would it would be great and those would be the right community involvement that you'd want to have is is with those things that are coming jamie and maybe you can help me explain this but the to get to that point the community input happens
before that to even get to the design portion of it correct so there's initial in the proposal there's initial community engagement that helps to build an understanding about um the community's sort of like what our some of our work that we did in the beginning
with um feedback about people's connection and um um and vision for the community itself so there's um it's propo what's proposed is like a working group with a variety of different people on that and then some engagement and then I would imagine that as we get um
drafts of looks and feels I think in there where she landed was either two or three that is where I think we could have some discussion later on in the process where the community could come interact with the looks and feels to give some feedback um so they would complement each other really great but we wouldn't want to stop there we want
to take that engagement and then continue to move forward with the with the final look well I think it's what Marie is talking about and I am too is I'm just looking and and we don't know what the future's got and what's going on and what's going to happen you know again I agree with what we're doing with
this so I'm not against that or against Tulip Tree or anything else that way it's just trying to get it to to fit in there and trying to get um community involvement without having something that's going on in our community is very
hard trust me we try to get community involvement all the time it doesn't happen okay those are the ideal times that we have is is during those times this summer to be able to get that involvement you know I mean you can post things online you can put in Facebook
you don't have the turnout that there is sure and we did you know quite a bit of engagement with the survey and then had a good turnout for the open house and I agree that there's a lot of engagement at gold rush days i attend those as well as well as the other events so I think we can build the engagement strategy to
include both both the front side of gathering information up front and then once the look and feel is um moving along to bring it to these different events so that people get a chance to interact with it i just think it's a great opportunity for the year to help kick off the EDA
and the process and like you said it's a process they go through they'll come back if you see in the information that's in it's in our packet they go through different iterations i think they were talking two to three different iterations that come back to the city for input and it's it's a process
there's no doubt about that it's just that I think it'd be excellent to start the process now and um you know it may take through the summer months but at the same time it's u it's all part of our EDA objectives
for the year and uh we appreciate the council's support to make that happen so I like the 15 better than the 22 well no which is five okay from us okay and then I do too i just don't like with a motion that's a 15 plus because that that's an
open-ended it could be 50 okay and and and and I so I'm I'm saying that if we t them and said our budget's 15 go back to them and see what they could offer maybe there's a few things we'd have to cut and we'd have to be scrappy about that
but I think from the proposal when we were talking to Tulip Tree 15 could get them started and get everything the ball rolling efficiently less than that I don't know i think really she was saying 18 but she
could make it work with 15 um and so that 15 can get us moving forward um so I would that Yeah it's
I'll modify my motion by taking the plus of 15 and just keeping it 15,000 what's the 15 include the city will contribute 500 five for the city 10 10 is on the right what we got for the grant so the motion I have is to move forward with
approval for EDA to work with 203 towards the on the branding program with an additional 5,000 funding from the city correct you need to clarify where the actual funds come from well
we sorry from the city administrator motion so it's not in the motion but it's on a letter that after the Any other comments i think it's worth I think it's
a great project and I think it's going to bode well we we looked at all the different companies and we think this is a good company to work with i just don't want to lose gold rush i think that is so unique we're not taking gold rush away we're getting gold rush
yeah because it's so unique to have with the city it's like and everybody knows or no go by by gold rush yeah i mean that's and that could be part of it is that we're home of gold rush but I don't know that we can be gold rush anymore
any other comments all in favor signify by saying I I no opposion carried proceed with working with the 15,000 and I will I will bring a resolution next
month with a budget amendment $5,000 it'll lay out where it's coming from where it's going to and all that that'll be coming from the one of those two items i probably split it between the two just 2500 from each thanks for coming thank you for having me
thanks for your discussion mr sheriff still here i'm sorry he's sitting back here in the dark are you okay yeah okay thank you public works we have a new hire um
started Monday I guess it was water and sewer kane did you want to come up and do a little monthly update just kind of what's been going on with that real quick i suppose I can uh yeah Tyler Hink started uh last
Monday been a good fit getting along with everyone fast learner coming into some uh water and sewer connections about 50 sewer connections to go 30 water connections our grinder pumps are uh finicky they uh need a lot
of attention and uh our on call schedule's been working out we started that here three weeks ago so uh the guys are getting used to that that's a a major uh stepping stone for the city have that 247 hour
coverage and relieve myself from being that person so um yeah we're going to be uh groundskeeping mowing getting the parks open here in the weeks to come and uh any questions yeah do you have a new number that there is for people to call
if you're doing you know 24hour or on call type situation your n your phone number was the one that's that was in the packet that you got a new number there's a number 507367-2281 and that's that'll go to the on call person we uh we use a call forwarding
app uh seems to be working i didn't know if you had that new number that's just a public works number right yep it goes to a call group so whoever has that app turned on gets notified so the the
three guys who aren't on call turn the app off and the guy who is has it on and it's uh it's been working we took that number out of the personnel policy okay yeah that's what Yeah thank you
all right next time is a water and sewer we have resolution 2025-08 i make a motion we approve resolution 202508 which deals with a uh amendments to the 2025 city and fee schedule and we have
um couple different erus or update I guess it's a sharp p schedule for businesses that have minimum of two erus and um also a uh the language is similar to
a 5% late fee with a water rate section to the sewer rate section so they complement each other and the other one is a two additional additions to the city administrator as well as far
as additions under the community development and zoning section next building permit of $25 and demolition permit of $50 so what is that demolition permit supposed to include um we have a motion to Is there a second
i'll do the second so that we can have a discussion jason would you want to so I had um Melissa going through and updating all of our permits and all these things this week and these are the two that we found that were we have permits for they have prices for that weren't on our fee
schedule um I haven't gotten a super close look at the demolition i believe it's just the um I don't want to speak out of term with it but from what I kind of remember it's it gets all the information for who's doing the demolition and cleanup and things yeah because almost if you
have anything done in the house for you're working in the kitchen and you're doing a new kitchen you're going to have demolition before you do the new kitchen so did that mean that a contractor comes in he gets a permit to do it but yet he has to have another permit for demolition because he's demolishing
what's in there right now existing so I mean those were you can kind of get a little bit crazy if you're you know to do that the right way that's I agree my my interpretation my first thought was like way to demolish the house that's what it was maybe that's what the demolition permit purpose is
for not I'm going to demolish my kitchen and rebuild like it's a a demolition like for you know a structure or something like that it isn't clarified very clear that's what this is a demolition purpose demolition demolishing a deck to rebuild that's what I read it as yeah no
so I mean it's like all of a sudden you're you're we can make sure the language is clear that it you know it's not for something like that and it's one of those we we often do this with our permits when they get brought in is people ask these questions and we make those calls as to what they are because unfortunately you can't lay out on a
permit everything that it should be used for and everything that it shouldn't be for um but we can make sure that the wording is correct that it's you know leads them the right way as to where it goes and like I said the my understanding is it's it's for the
bigger demolition projects not for entire structures so if we have this new garage that's going in on Minnesota Avenue and they were waiting and there was a year in between because they wanted to put the new one up and then get everything moved
over and then take the other one down is that a permit because it's a garage that that would be demolition or would that be included in the building permit that we've already offered i I don't know the building permit and again a lot of these are going to be on a case by case basis
so you know it's tough to kind of give you a just like anything else a good answer to it that one's not going to happen now either so okay so but anyway that that was a question on on that so I can see the the value in having the demolition
from it so we know where things are going and we don't end up with that is what at what point is it called demolition okay and and what does that involve so unfortunately we haven't been able to get that on our forms and applications because we're having issues with getting Melissa on the website to
be able to update and put those in so not having this information beforehand I can't pull the permit to actually read what it says to you so I can't fully answer that question any other comments um
I we have this on the I'm looking Sorry I'm looking back at the last year's schedules i can't remember if these ones were on here if these were new additions i think they're I think these ones were new additions but they were permits that we had they just weren't on the fee
schedule and they had on them on the permit itself was the fee that's why these fees were left at what they were is because that was already on the permit from years ago that we have so any other
comments we do a voice vote let me get back here all right course hi Councelor Phillips hi Councelor Penigrass nay councelor Spring hi councelor Razor hi
next item is just FYI of the people's service report you look at the report January and February starts off on the left again year march we'll see some big changes in our um
hydrogen level is coming down so fast is at 39 i'm not happy with it and zoning resolution 2025-09 we got pillows waiting over there
bill do you have any comments to share with us no just uh mayor and councel uh this is a relatively simple straightforward uh uh reasonzoning as my report uh of uh to the planning and zoning commission notes uh the pattern
of land uses would stay uh the same as it is now there's already B2 zoning there's already R2 zoning there's already R1 zoning to the north so uh this change uh keeps that pattern in place and it's a reasonable and logical
uh change the planning and zoning commission recommended approval i recommend approval uh and there's maps and there's a resolution in in your packet to uh to uh approve the uh the reasoning um do you guys want to give a
presentation or talk about it or since you're here otherwise I can rely on our testimony at the commission but I sure can well I'm going to make a motion to approve the zoning change that there is from from uh uh it would be from B2 to
R2 we'll second for discussion um the presentation was really good for planning and zoning it was excellent it was excellent there was a lot of uh there was a handful of community members that came and spoke in favor of it and
um um so it was so overall very wellreceived so and I also turned around and took time to find out where that new house was that that you built okay and I went out and looked at the facility and even though it was across the street
okay I saw how you took care and watching for what there was for irrigations or not irrigation but but the drainage issue that there was and and how you took care of that property and and it was it was awesome so and I like the house too like to get in and
see it but it was nice so excellent any other comments then take the ro vote may Mayor Ior I councelor Phillips hi councelor Pentagram hi councelor Risorfer hi councelor Spring hi
thank you very much thank you see you soon um may I address council just for one minute i recognize that the branding is very important and if this is in line
with regulation uh we at Pine Southwest would like to provide additional $5,000 grant towards that purpose thank you excellent thank you i mean funds can be available to Thank you very
good thank you thank you thank you again that was a great offer thank you thank you so much thank you call J i will I will reach out to them and let them know and and if you get a chance to go look
at that that facility that there is that house is really nice it's off of 52 and um gosh it's west of 52 get off at 16th and go across i'll get you the address okay and but it's it's it's they really
did a good job on how they cleaned every It was nice it was very well done it's on top of the hill south of Apache Mall on the west side of 52 back up okay yeah get the address and check it okay thanks all right uh next item is
fire department couple action items uh yeah let me [Music]
get Okay we um had resignation of two people actually no there's there's one on that's on here for Lindera uh so we just want to he wants to to resign i thought there were two i thought I had another she's
resigning from both yeah but there was another person that's resigning as well there's a leave of absence leave of absence for your second one no there were two that were taking off and a leave of absence let's do because like I said these came straight from Dan so but since Yeah but there there's two of
them there and and Tucker of course is leaving for the Marines so Motion for the first one yeah so I make a motion I make a motion to uh approve the
resignation second any questions how long has she been with fire department any idea i I don't know i can find out i can Would she be willing to do an exit interview i don't know i didn't talk to her okay
you could ask all right any other questions if not all those in favor signify by saying I I oppose make a motion make a motion for uh to approve
leave of absence for Tucker second comments appreciate we appreciate both of them working with the fire department first responders that's great there's no other comments all those in favor signify by saying I i
post next item is a prove there's a quote for one in your packet and we're looking at request for eight pages for a total of $8,2 i make a motion to approve the purchase
second it any other comments like the bill is for one pager right is that Yeah all in favor of the um signify by saying
I approve all right fyi our packet i think that city administrator so yeah I think that this is just for safety it's great to have them we got them on every garage door in our house it's like they should be out there for that too so
it's a norain they haven't had them on there considering the trucks parked this far on the door yeah but I mean it's and they're moving things around because I mean you have the trucks that they're coming in and going out there's no room from where their lockers are to be able to do stuff
so they're working on this it's good for OSHA next day next item is a fire relief donation to the city administrator min administrator fund
$1,1268 mr was approved the donation come from the the gambling it's just a normal monthly oh okay yeah responders EDA parks and trails
yeah we have a couple of items here the first one is to have a prescribed burn um by the parks and trails on off Riverwood Hills that was a hormone drain field but there um is a lot of tall grass that they want to make sure that
we're being proactive um before something happens especially with all the homes back there so they wanted to um get approval to burn that former drain field back there this would also serve as a training opportunity for
the fire department they would also give advanced notice to all the um residents that live close by there too we need to fill out any DNR forms my motion first we're going to discuss i
make a motion to approve the burn got it go ahead so Jimmy's made motion yeah second okay um are there any DNR forms to fill out i
Adam Brace doesn't think they needed to but I can ask i pretty sure they do so that should definitely be found out one way or the other i can ask them um I did reach out to our insurance and talk with our insurance to make sure there's not extra liability or issues with that uh they didn't have any problem with it so
we're kind of covered on that end and they're aware that this will be happening soon so yeah Adam should know that okay how do you Excuse me Kane from your perspective the fire department assistant chief how do you handle the manpower and scheduling that
uh I think it'll happen next year i think we're getting too green this year to do it but that's my opinion and yes the DNR does need to be contacted there is a form to fill out a plan to fill out you can't just meet up and start burning things that's It's not
allowed so the DNR does have to approve it so So there could be a time frame with that absolutely yep okay so whenever you do it make sure they're done okay the next item is a vote all in favor signify by saying I
i next item is a age friendly oral spoke with parks and trails about the fiscal agent i make a motion the city of Orno be the fiscal agent for the parks audit fund this is the one I um amended at our
agenda too um we want to make sure that we're accepting that age friendly grant of 2700 and then allow the parks committee to pay those invoices i'll second and so that would just allow them
to distribute the funds as needed be their own bookkeeper any other comments all those in favor signify by saying I i oppose next item is parks and trails who was the motion in the second sorry I got
behind rade the motion made the motion i had the second thank you that's the amended motion as well so next item is a approval approve leave is that name
spelled correctly program copy and pasted from the email that was sent to me by the parks and trails representative submit yeah we need the application first there's no application we can't go through with this so
I have not got an application I can't vote on it then have the application table So next month [Music] the table last item is
a parks and trails committee spent $200 for new plans Make a motion Jim yeah I make a motion to approve this with with one question is there a second i'll second um we want to make sure we didn't have
the same plants what were the plants that were poisonous that we put in last there was something that was in that was poisonous that big pretty red one out here in the corner toxic as I'll get out okay so make sure they're not toxic poison same
as the same as the one that was down at some down there it probably look pretty i don't know just don't touch it yeah just don't touch it okay no poisonous items or invasive
probably no other comments all in favor signify saying I post okay um under city administrator we have Oh we got to do the employee relations committee additions there right the
additions to the ERC oh I'm sorry yeah it's administrative day yeah so um we have two items one is administrative day uh this is for coming up on our Easter having a uh I think that's
correct isn't it a good Friday so So they have observed administrative days so if a holiday falls on Sunday they would get the Monday okay so Easter is not a national
holiday however we wanted to give the staff Monday off because of Easter i was thinking that I I understand the way that it's written in the book but it's almost Good Friday would make more sense well the reason I was we talked so like
this came a lot came from South like we in South Dakota they do administrative days the governor granted South Dakota this year Friday and Monday actually for administrative days for the Easter holiday so it was one of those ones where I was like I don't care whatever you know however it's done but I think it's a good good support for the staff
to be able to do that and that was Monday was the one because we decided to stick with what the policy kind of emulates with the read that in there yeah so but I would still say Good Friday would make personal income tax can you bring that here too i'll do it again
any other comments all those in favor signify saying I i i you're going to post that then yeah okay so in administrative day is that something that is the state recognized
that too minnesota they do for the national holidays they do for national but we have the ability to to do that as well for city at the city level so So the next item is regarding staff reviews
um for the annual reviews for employees we've identified a a date of June 13th is what we like to have all the staff reviews completed um mainly because they help with budgeting which
we'll be doing in July and and August but the idea is we we haven't been very diligent about timing of staff reviews and everything so we thought we'd set the date and work towards that and have those reviews taken care of so I think
it's a great idea the other thing that we'd incorporate in those staff reviews is peer reviews as well so that we're getting um other input into areas of opportunity and goal setting um as we work through
through those too so there'll be an opportunity for others that may not directly work with them to provide input as well which I think just helps with building um teamwork and collaboration especially when we're working
across departments yeah I just am concerned if we you know when we get into looking at stuff with volunteers I think that's going to be a problem and so for suggestions yes but for the rest no i I think that that we
can't do that for volunteers yeah we did ask about um like the leadership in fire and first responder if they would be willing to do reviews again understanding that we probably don't want to go down to all of
them but I do think there's probably an opportunity to mend some bridges there and to be able to hear where they're they're gapped or barriered no I I agree with with that which is a nonformal that's you know more of of some input
that you could almost have a suggestion type box that there is to put suggestions in there between now and June 13th or something like that will give us some input i know that from what I've seen working for the last few years
with the fire department and what's gone on that they've put a lot of restrictions on people so in other words if you're not showing up and not going to the meetings and not doing the trainings that there are every other you're you're marked and you don't
get to move ahead off of it and you'll be out so they're watching that which is great i think that that makes a lot of sense too for what's going on you agree with that Kane my opinion doesn't matter and I think they're managing i think they're doing
much better yeah but but again as as leaders for those departments they we should have some type of dialogue on how we help support them how we remove barriers what are things that they maybe need to work on and it's a two-way conversation i think that that's and so
I do feel strongly that maybe they don't need like the technical annual reviews but we need some type of way to have that dialogue and set it so every year we're having it otherwise it's going to go unnoticed and and things are not going to get better
um because I do think we have an opportunity to help support them differently and and really understand what their struggles are and their gaps and their barriers so and maybe it's not an annual review maybe we call it something else but we do need to have some type of collaborative session on I
agree with that part of it they be allowed to participate in the peer reviews as well yeah they could potentially yeah but again it's like if you can participate in a peer review why wouldn't you get reviewed right like again I I don't think it's meant to be
punitive by any means again I think annual reviews in my eyes are a blessing because there's opportunities and if you're hearing something bad in an annual review then we all failed them right like we should be talking about that before a review i think a review is
how do we set the stage and we work together in a collaborative way um and maybe it's a department review or something so it's not to Dan or Johan or or Kane right maybe it's to the department to think about those things that might be a better way of how do we
support fire and first responder differently but I think if they're gonna if they're going to be able to provide input on Jason then I would want them to have some skin in the game too yeah no I understand it i'm just um I'm cautious
off of that with with volunteers okay yeah that would be way too much to manage all the 50some i'll say from the HR side of it too you look at it is you know the those positions all serve at the pleasure of the council still yet and you know the
council has the authority to remove somebody and you still need to have that documentation so this is part of that reason you know hey we're doing reviews on them it doesn't have to be an in-depth as in-depth as we do with our full-time city employees but that way as a city we have documentation to back up
if something does go ary we can say as a city we address this documented and move forward in a formal setting yeah no I'm I'm just I I they have their reviews on file and that is not the right way to do it for that i'll go against that
uh till the end okay off of that but um they they watch pretty close on what's going on over there and and keep track of what's happening and I mean we haven't had theft we don't have any of those type situations that that could be involved with it but those would would
be known yeah and I would and there's something moving on did I notice something i'm not here to speak about the fire department that's not my job as well i mean if if and I think maybe it would be good for you and I to get together since you're doing the first
responders I'm doing the fire and and and talk together because there's coordination between the two and there's people that are on both sides of it okay to be able to do that and and figure it out and my intent was never to go down
to everybody in in the volunteers i think it's a department review and again it's a collaborative session maybe it's maybe the review is throwing people off but maybe it's a a set time where we're talking about department needs and not
just budget but like how do we create a space that we can communicate effectively that we know what your goals are for the year you know and not just budgetary like I think there's just opportunity to bring them together i agree with that i think that's a positive thing and and I'm with you on
that so maybe you and I can work on on that we'll work our way through but for full-time staff we would start annual reviews now with a due date of the 13th i think that that's that's good they they have been missed okay and I think
that that's that's a good thing to do and to have that set i agree yeah all right um that's just a good FYI jason your update yeah just kind of had the monthly snapshot in there it's been
a busy month um we got our new employees started um obviously this was done be before Rachel started um but we've got all three going and they have hit the ground running been very satisfied with the office staff and I've seen Tyler out there putting in work as well talking
with Kane he's doing a great job uh so very excited for the up and coming with them um we're going to start getting caught up on some things get some some training done for different things um let's see here getting utility bills
back on schedule that's been good i'm going to jump around just a little bit oh wait up there uh we had with that the continue work with BSNA um today was day two of meetings with them on uh final touches i think we're down to 55 days
until we go live with BSNA so that's very exciting to get that that process going um and then with Diligent we got a meeting on Thursday as well for some to get her uh Rachel up to speed on some of the
stuff and then to kind of finalize um myself and Daniel with some of the final stuff before that one i'm hoping is going to go live here in the next month or so um so those are moving forward which is great and we're going to get the staff trained up on those um the
next big one Oronokco Estates um this one I What did I have in here i think that my dog ate the papers okay and so I couldn't turn in my term paper i mean that's exactly what this is yeah so we
we they did make the payment um the of the the main um the main amount the main invoice however all the late fees were neglected and I kind of broke that down there i still got to go through this week and uh
put in and I'll I'll redo all the invoices and and send them back out as to what's still owed with the late fees and I'll make sure council has sent those as well so they're updated um but like you said that's still $22,000 in late fees and I do not feel comfortable
saying no you don't have to pay those that's a council decision um and that I think will need to be made but I'm going to tell you my intent is to redo the invoices send them back out and we're going to see where this this lands with them and what's going forward um just so you know on that any individual resident
has to pay late fees yes because I mean I I got hit with a late fee but even I got late but it's like I 100% agree and there's it's one of those things like I said that you know there's a there's a time and a place to work with things and we're we're well past that well um so
they're cut just just to bring this up when it comes to individual residents if they don't pay if they don't pay their their fees throughout the year is that their taxes the end of the year can we do the same thing with them um I think we had tried to do that i don't know
where this got because they're in the township we have to go through the process with the township and I don't know that that got done this year um so Jason it's in the agreements that we had drafted the use agreement that we had drafted with them this was the main I
was kind of against even extending services out there for this very reason um but what we did was we got the township to sign an agreement whereby they will do the assessments for us because we can't assess out there those those aren't city residents and so
that's the problem with extending any kind of utility out to the township is you know there's a lot of problems but one of the main ones is how do you assess and how do you enforce violations of the sewer code or the utility code so those are the two main issues so I we we
do have a contracts that we drafted i caveed that when we drafted them and said basically this is the best we can do under this circumstance um but I think the township is willing to assess for us um why don't we just talk about
that this month between now and the next meeting and I'll I'll point you to that language and explain um but I think you're doing it right just try and have them pay and I I so I did Mike I did read in there that language and so I'm a little bit familiar with it but yeah I do want to touch base with that i will
say I did have productive conversation with the with the group um the Orno Estates Open Meadows Group um and some of their folks from their business offices I think out of Chicago um it was very productive and within the week we got the check for those amounts so that
to me that's that's mass improvement over what it was i think they've had some internal issues on their side so it's a good faith thing so I want to continue to work with them to see if we can get this resolved and get them to pay this but like I said ultimately and I told them this it's not going to be up to me it's going to be up to council as
to what happens with this but I will redo those invoices send them out with what the correct fees are now with the remainder left and get those sent out to them and I think we move forward from there but I just wanted that to be on council's radar that that's kind of going to be be coming up and we'll probably need a decision you know if it
if it means hey we got to at the end of the year make sure we're working with the township to know that this needs to be done then then let's do that um and get that done so are they all caught up in current minus the late i think the last month I again I I have
the check i haven't had time to sit down and put them into the invoices yet um I think the only one missing is this last month bill um that hasn't been paid yet are they compounding late fees on this late fee amount no I'm I'm just I'm once it's been paid
I stop the leafy stuff and it's just this is the the leafy that is left i'm not continuing rolls over residue it's just left over and so I'm not going to sit here and go and in 10 months that number is going to be up another you know 5% each month no you paid the month
you paid the main invoice i'm gonna stop that and we're gonna I think that's fair and I think it's in good spirit considering they've made this you know I think they've paid $80,000 plus in these two checks which is phenomenal they're you know they're getting caught up in doing that i think we just need to figure out you know if if council at the
end of the day months down the road here wants to say "Nope we're still going to get the late fees," which I think personally needs to happen um but that's a council decision then we collect those with we work with the township to collect those so because again we would ask our residents the same thing to pay the late fees so and otherwise there's
no reason for them to to pay on time from this point forward if they're going to wait the late fees all the time so we need an action item on this tonight or No this is just update stuff like I said I'm going to get those out just wanted to make you all aware of that so um Eddie Bailey they're still working on
stuff nothing else moving forward after they've got their initial batch of stuff um I'm going to reach out to them again later this week and see if there's anything more they need um I felt like I had done that but I honestly can't remember off top of my head it's been a busy couple weeks um our grant with the fire department i did receive a
communication that uh DPS egrants office had granted the grant had been awarded so to me that's approved but we're still dealing with the federal government side of our EU or our UEI so I think they just accepted the fact that we have it it's just expired and approved the grant
but I'm still working with getting the federal side of that unique um identity identifier if you could find out for me because I mean the fire department asked and so that way I'd like to know when the state's going to issue i haven't heard anything more from the state other than
that that email on April 8th so could you check for next month yeah absolutely i'm going to keep following up with it though we get communication with it um I haven't heard anything more from Gold Rush Crossings i did meet with the township commission last night talked
with them um a little bit they basically I got a little bit of an update gold Rush Crossings is supposedly still talking with their attorney and going to be talking to their planning and zoning group uh to
try and reszone their that land in the township but the township commission isn't quite sure what they're doing or why they're trying to do this they've been very forward with communication that it has to go to the city so but that's still in a holding pattern so
that's kind of where we're at with that any other questions Jason right um streets and roads schedule a street review with our Daniel and Joe scheding a street review here in the next six weeks we can
come back with a hopefully something in May what's that oh I mentioned a place to take a look with with you guys out there take a road anywhere now we do have we do have a little extra funds
um budget from the state i think it's $105,000 something like that that we could use so we'll try and take advantage of the key aspects is it's just a one year it's just in 2005 so we'll come back with something
hopefully in the in the May time frame the proposal unfinished business something that Councilman Phillips and Springs would like to discuss with the River Park drain
field this is an ongoing issue as well i mean it was talked about back in 2019 21 when we started talking about how we go about transferring or configuring the uh River Park drain field has the white
pits around it i just didn't want it to get lost in in the mix of what's going on because I know that could be very beneficial to the city also for the financial part of it and also growth for another development to come in too so I think it'd be really good right
absolutely there's been a lot of different comments made about it um how you know homes and whatever comes out of our PNZ with our new lot sizes that type of thing would make a difference well I think those lot
sizes are pretty well established i think changing that oh yeah it's going to be changed you know so it's going to add that much more but the River Park governance has its own lot size requirement as well and home size requirement okay i mean if you want so
what I was thinking is we could actually look at starting to look at land value whether you want to possibly chunk sell this as a chunk or um have Joe draw something up to get I
think the lots around there are about an average of.7 acres so that's probably what we would need to stick with um and see what we could do with that and if we were to sell it as the 8.8 acres that it is or
um to one person to develop or I mean that would be the ideal way to do it if we platted out ourselves and as a city and that would probably the most beneficial for dollars to the city yeah
but to the city ease but I don't know that we always need to go the easy route i think it would be take a look and see which is is the best i think if you could get five or six lots they would be doubled up pretty quick i think there's I think there's a capability of putting
about 10 there.7 and looking at that yeah that 7 at 8.8 acres there might be a little culde-sac where the the little grinder pump house was plus a couple back lots uh one thing I would want to mention is
there's two lots that don't go back to the road i think it would be important to get in touch with them and see if they would be interested in extending their lots before we do anything
i I think I I think I would on the very end one i can see that one and that's about an acre but the other one that one there's a lot of space behind that one space that could make another lot under there pretty easy yes yes is that a full
acre behind that yeah it would be a really angular acre sign yard oh we want if we were going to get rid of this we would want to uh minimize the grass that Kane has to go mow especially if it's only Okay
that that one that's at the end it's got the lift station in it yeah so if you see the aerial shot there's a oak tree sitting right there and to the well I guess it would be the east technically but up on the map here um that's the
lift station everything down of that to the property line is uh open and so I don't know what's there and if it could be anything that's this tree right behind that one house that's the station right yeah I don't remember maybe it's 100 square there's a
few considerations too um that came into play after River Park was developed and there'll have to be some sort of storm water management piece that will take up some land area okay some sort of storm water
pond infiltration that would work for that BMP that'll have to you and that might be a spot it you really got to kind of look at how you got to look at a number of things to figure that out but um so I don't know if we want
to move forward with looking into that sort of stuff um well so what we may want to do I think it's good that Stantech would look at it it's just a matter of the funding for it and where that would come from well I
mean I just want to keep it active on what we have going on okay and now we at least have a drawing to look at and think about the steering committee we should have our stuff coming back with that pretty quick off of that too wherever you know you you've got your stuff for um
your for the your association requirements okay and see if that's set in stone or if that can go along with the change with there is with the city well we wouldn't be wanting to put you know third acre home lots in a
established subdivision that's a 3/4 plus acre lot okay no again it's I I want it to be good over there and look nice and everything match up with what you got because I think that's what the residents would like to have are the same type of of homes that there are
that you got you know so so with that what kind of um like can you just build on there now or you have to go and take the do some subsurface removing of pipes that are still in the ground so it's only the
only thing that's from the inside the fence i guess that's is that as much as what you had to do up there at Riverbend this last week because they were pulling a lot of stuff out of there that's the developer but yeah you'll have to do the same it
depends on how the lots lay out and how that works but most if not all of that system will come out of the ground okay right and then there's some other considerations you know how to get sewer and water there um to the individual
lots drainage is always a concern and then compliance with storm water management requirements um those three things top of mind plus the community waste treatment system they have to be kind of sorted out but if you'd like we can you know
kind of put together a sketch based on minimum lot sizes within the river park covenants at least of one or two options of how that might lay out and stop at that or we could you know
kind of cost it out too and figure out what it cost to you know extend sewer and water services into them and you know if there's a culde-sac what does that cost right i would do it as a as a twostep process and do the first one first and then at least come in with
with that and then if we whoever because I mean if a developer buys everything let them pay for the rest of it yeah but if you're talking like the most recent lots in River Park at that size were selling for about $100,000
now with some mediation i wouldn't imagine that we could ask that same amount if there's got to be work to it right more than that well yeah so but now I mean the last ones that I've seen I think the
neighborhood's been full for five years so well I I think that that people would would would jump at that what's going on because the price has gone up over the last five years of of what's happening well the work to go into the lot is kind of the unknown right of do we want to
get rid of it in one big chunk somebody else deal with it or do we want individual individual lots selling it individually there's there's some other challenges as I think about it you know parkland dedication per the ordinance we'd have
to think about already have the river park right i know but that wasn't you know you're you're redeveloping the property you know it was essentially considered green space when the original development was
developed so you could wave that but I'm just saying per for the ordinance typically that would be a consideration too and it doesn't have to be a huge deal but um you know and it does you don't have to necessarily always dedicate land and you're right you've
got that lift station parcel yeah you got a little bit there you could put in there put a dog park in there there you go i don't think they would like that much anyway there there's some things to think about for sure only during daylight time yeah no so I I was just
bringing that forward to I don't know expound on Jim's point of not letting it fall behind but actually maybe starting to move forward i think the sale of this property I think I think you brought it up a while ago but the sale of this property could really catch us up in
some CIP funding that have been neglected over the last 10 years well and is this something that we need to look at or in our budget talks for next year if we need to do any work with it that's probably our So we'd
want if we couldn't pedal it all in one piece if we couldn't pedal it all in one piece to a developer that'd probably be the best way for us to look at it looking at it we need to spend any money on it to bring it up that's right exactly we need to spend money on it a
lot of times you have to spend money to make money too that's right i will if I can add something the League of Minnesota cities actually just put this out on their LinkedIn there was an article on Monday about um SAK Center in Minnesota um something similar to this
the city bought land and then they are uh 45 acres worth and they're putting in uh lots residential lots to help with their housing but they're doing all that work themselves and it talks about small cities and how smaller cities are stepping up and different ways that you know the small cities can accomplish
this um so I think there are ways out there and I think it would be be wise of us if we did keep it in house which I think we should personally to work with our EDA and our planning and zoning to okay how can we help fund this that's what I did is all that stuff on the
north side of 14 that's all done that way all through the north side of 14 newer development stuff i mean it's it's good opportunities that's great we've got to look for ways to put money back into the the emergency
stuff and the future so whether it that money goes into capital improvements or it goes into some sort of investment whatever we can do as a city I mean it's it's incredibly beneficial and it's kind of sitting there empty right now so you
know it might be might be a way to make some kind of a some kind of a property trade too also in a way to acquire property for the new city center that been talked about so yeah I think we're getting in a little
bit toward three like a three-way trade oh let's do it you look at that um so what so I think let's just let's keep this active okay and keep it
under old business okay okay and then that way we can keep it on the agenda do we want Joe to have it do any sketches for us for next meeting or Well we in engineering i think we need to keep in mind the cost of doing that too okay
okay yeah that's where let's wait for a month i think this was great discussion tonight again on what's going on and for us to think about it yeah I think the because it's city property and it always was it was you know part
of Yeah let's just go with our discussion good stuff good stuff um I think it was the memo you have a memo to goal setting workshops for budget yeah so I sent everybody out the
memo um for feedback to send to committees and departments and you can speak to your committees um on that and kind of give them fair warning that that's coming and that we'd
like for them to put together and I did add your stuff in there that you requested um so maybe I'll send that back out but um basically it's just going through and
saying that we're going to be doing these workshops and we want to get their input on what's important to them and so um I think I will send have Jason send that out so we can we have another 5:30
meeting next month and try and get some of these things rolling and get them in here and get them going so some some departments and some committees aren't going to need much time um some will need quite a bit of time so uh if we the
sooner I send it out the better but if you guys are good with that and rewarded a couple discussion very good i'm going to resend it to you to make sure that I captured what you were asking
what you're thinking about and what is on the next item setting dates for workshops yeah I just I put this on there because I wanted to say okay what are we doing for workshops it sets dates are we going to say okay every council meeting from here on out we're going to do a budget a workshop
beforehand for the rest of the year like I think that will be beneficial but at least at the very least to be able to start working through a lot of this stuff i I think the workshops are really important to be able to do that where we can get a little bit more communication going back and forth and we're moving
ahead every time we have one of those if it works for everybody I think that that's a good thing to do i'd prefer them on a different day than Thursdays or Tuesdays it might be beneficial to do them off of
um so not not to stack up the council meeting and that but I personally would prefer a different different day yeah and I would think 5:30 might be hard if we're asking other people to come they might not be done with work by
then right because if we're having the departments come that that's a sometimes that's tight well I know Wednesdays we don't have any meeting thought we were saying Fridays friday 7 a.m sure let's do this friday
at one o'clock it's going to be a tough one there you're getting 50 hours in before Thursday friday night would be an option i take it i'll be on Zoom i'll be on a phone call
it's a great idea i like it so we should just Yeah however I think that's good i think workshops are So that's what I'm asking for is can we make a decision tonight so I've got something moving forward well let's do it next can Can you do next can you do May next month we're
going to do next okay so let's do it that way and we'll figure out what day we'll be may was already on the schedule yes okay new business um those here with
us as well so I make a motion we approve resolution 2025-06 i'll second call we got any discussion is there any discussion any discussion amen it's just an addition to the Yeah just
adding getting adding that blank line that line that we left blank last no November or December yeah adding in there as the uh the signator there so what did I just There's no other comments all those
favor sign I call resolution sorry mayor I course hi Councelor Phillips hi councelor Pentagrass hi Councelor Spring hi Council Rice Dorfer hi
congratulations you can sign wow that's approved next item is resolution 25-07 is this I got a I make a motion to approve it i'll second it is this just a formality that there is
off of this one i mean that's all yeah this is just a renewal of the last one we did in 2021 or whatever date of 2020 sorry so this is just a renewal of this yeah everything else looks like pretty straightforward yeah it's it was sent over from the township this is all their
wording and the the agreement that they had written up but yeah it's just uh it's been the same for Yeah 30 years we'll call okay mayor Ior hi councelor Phillips hi
councelor Pentagrass hi councelor Spring councelor Ristor hi maybe we want to add action [Music] item yeah uh just want
to hit that wire and thought he was wasn't certain what was going on between him and Kane i think they discuss besides it might be freezing i asked him to run his water for the weekend and he didn't have any pressure in the
house but apparently it had enough to run out $175 water bill uh what happened is they had the the uh the curb stop at the street cast iron dropped
over the top of it and the cap on it and the where the cap cap was at in relation to the actual curb stop it was hitting it and that's what cracked the pipe down under broke the pipe down underneath the plastic
tubing sitting somewhere probably between the uh the installer of the curb stop and inspection it didn't require some kind of gap between the curb stop and
the cap that went on top then the curb stop one yard was adjustable this one wasn't adjustable usually slide in and out like the telescope and this one didn't is put in his driveway
and so I think somewhere we should be covering his expenses on north to take care of it was this in the easement well all of all of the curb stops in the ement right at the edge of your property line is there a motion before we get into
discussion i'll I'll make a motion to reimburse her for any cost that they get taken care of and and and to cover that discussion my curb stops in the easement your curb
but it's not in the in the driveway many of them are in the driveway yeah but it's got the adjustable part of it where you're not going to break Yeah so my understanding is utilities once they pass the easement are for the homeowners those are on the expense but
it could be covered by this homeowner's insurance i could see that being the case if it weren't for the fact of that capital right on top of the current stock to start with how long has this been there since 2009 I think or 10 somewhere in there if if I
if I may and Keane will help give a little bit of backstory on this because he's knowledgeable in this as well question for the motion you're asking for the 920 i'm asking for the 920 and the black top and the water it would be
3632 and43 if it's everything so 3,6243 83 cents i know everything that's supposed to be right from the curb stop in is supposed to be the homeowners but if the curb stop is move moving and you don't know that's going to be
moving like that so and and Joe will help give perspective as well but I'm going to start um because I know the least of this but basically my understanding is this was installed years ago there was an issue and then it was dug up and fixed by a private
contractor by at that time back in like 2010 again so this has been dealt with and resolved by a private contractor after the fact already before so when I spoke with Irv about this I told him basically I said that if he wanted this
fixed he would need to bring it before water sewer and then it was recommended it would go to council it was not recommended by water sewer it was just left be um and again when I spoke with her it was okay I could see as a reasonable person
back the first time this happens going to the city saying hey this was yours this is what happened it wasn't fixed right can you give us some give me some funding to help offset the cost um but after it was fixed on his own the first time by private contractor I think the
city has lost the responsibility to make any additional payments um to help cover the cost of this which is basically what I told him um and so I don't think that's in the city's best interest to say oh you know 10 years plus after the fact after it's been fixed already
before we're now going to come in and fix it i'm sorry it wasn't fixed the right way 10 years ago i don't know what happened i wasn't here i wasn't part of that um however I don't think that that's good practice for a city to be doing move forward and paying that kind of stuff my understanding is it was in
when after it was installed the only other time it was dug up is when it when they turn around and hook it up okay that's not what Anyways we'll I'll let them speak on this i guess I I'll speak up and give you some perspective so it was installed in 2009 15 years ago 10 or
11 2009 or 10 uh by the city's contractor uh to the property line or just inside of the rightway line uh at that point the property owner dug it up
again he hired his own private contractor to dig dig that curb curb stop up in the curb box the curb stop is the valve buried in the ground the box is the basically what allows you to turn
the valve that extends to the surface okay so he hired a plumber the plumber dug up the curb stop the curb box extended to his house um and so that was the first time that it was disturbed
after the city's contractor installed it in 2009 or 10 uh then I understand a few years later he had a problem with it uh similar to what he had now he hired a contractor to come in excavate it repair
it um and uh now most recently the issue came up again so essentially that curb stop has been dug up three times since the city installed it by private contractors
um that were retained by the property owner and I should also note that city code [Music] um indicates that water and sewer services are the property owners from
the home to the main which includes going through the curb stop into the rightway into the street if necessary and so you know the responsibility in my opinion I'd agree with Jason i think that not the city's
responsibility you know it's unfortunate that it happened and uh he had to fix it but you know very likely the adjustment of that curb stop and box city didn't have anything to do with nor did their contractors
the private plumber dug that up twice made the adjustments put it all back together and it failed again that's not the city's fault in my opinion thank you for clarification in that
that being the case to make a a friendly amendment to that that you know at least to cover his water bill that there was that he had on to try to find the problem i think that's reasonable the difference
between his normal water bill and yeah and and the additional well that's what they do up at Cedar Woodlands and they have winter freezing issues run their water till done that for quite
a few years i don't know if we're still doing it or not but they did that up there i'd like to say provides we provided a tank didn't we one year we provided a tank and had to run a
separate water line to some places cover the water bills up there so and that was for the title phrasing so that's seems to be like I thought might happen here so you cover that
so we would reimburse about 120 25 okay i'm going to ask what the amount is that they council wants reimbured otherwise I'll take the last 12 months and average it and then subtract it from that would be fine too or if you want to write 125 if that gave
you chos like I said I'm just asking for you guys to clarify one way or the other i don't care subtract $54 off that and then give you Yeah because 54 is already on here that was paid for the previous month you want to just do 125 and make it
simple that way that makes it easy just just take 125 pardon me yeah I can do it however that's why I'm asking 125 i know it's simple it's straightforward so you're saying the 175 take off 125 that would be 125 because normal is
basically $50 a month yeah so be 5083 as the bill there you go and and I mean that's a simple way to usually give him credit on his sewer bill right or his water bill we'll have to look at how we do it we It's either going to come in as a We'll figure it out be just as easy
well I don't know that anything's easy in this water system so that's another story ryland's going "What are you guys doing here?" Okay no we've talked different figures so what's making the motion i make the motion for 125 okay to
be taken off as a credit of the bill a second something that could be done next month's bill or whatever right be the June bill no the May i'm
sorry whenever Jason can figure out how to do that part in the system maybe he just write a check maybe he's I'll figure it out he can make the the payment and I'll we'll figure it out for this month i'll I'll work out and get a hold of them and work with them any other questions
appreciate your explanation that's how it came this explained meeting so all right any other comments seeing none all those in favor signify by saying I i opposed
approved let's see make a motion we approve the consent agenda uh I'll second that for discussion your quick comment my quick comment is I just wanted to add a little bit uh on fire um there's a group that's called
barbecue relief BBQ relief um and it's a group that's out of noco that turns around and goes to places and and feeds when when things happen whether it be um
what was it North Carolina or down in Florida or whatever but they contacted the fire department and said "This is what we do." And so May 3rd at 1:00 they're going to do a little barbecue
for everybody that there is to get an idea of what that is so it's available to us in case something happens so I just wanted that makes that FYI yeah okay the other thing too is they they went to a school that there was actually
it was over in Austin where they do a lot of the training uh there were 14 members that went over for that training and that was the biggest turnout of any city that there was to be able to do the training in Austin so it gives you some
idea of the interest and the work that they're doing in the fire department to keep everybody up to snuff and what was going on so I thought that that was really good the other one that I had Oh there's more yeah you know me please
go i was going through a couple things and just for for clarification uh so we've got everything in for the switch gear it is okay yeah I saw that just wanted to make sure that that was true what I was reading after
that and then I had page 82 let's see if I have that one right let's see i was looking at um it's 41100 and it's under city clerk and also
deputy clerk and it's under salary and wages and both of those are listed as 41100 again this is on page 82 okay i was just trying to figure out why on one of them that that the salary was already
$29,000 and we really and the other one was 3,000 that's my salary oh that's yours okay i didn't know if it the 41100 is the salaries line so any salaries we have is going to be that third number is the 41100 okay because I saw Okay i saw administrator the 3,000 is the payout
for Renee after she left okay well that's just wanted to have clarification that's all i looked at that um and then looking at page 83 uh line number
42060 which is on dues and membership we were over about $740 do you know what the difference was for what we had budgeted i don't i'd have to go back and look at it i just you know headline says memberships yeah it's got
that's like the LMC stuff and and that where that comes in so I don't know i'd have to go back like I said I'd have to go back and look at it i don't have that information so those are Thank you for that that was easy see went back okay questions have
been asked before too good for everybody to know what's going on okay so we need a vote on the consent agenda please i'm sorry a vote consent agenda vote on the consent agenda all those in favor of the book consent agenda signify by saying I
make a motion to adjurnn second said you're going to break up the hill's there's some both sides going on either side going down the hill and going up the other one which is down the hill going the other way