Okay, this is our first meeting of 2026. It's Tuesday, January the 27th, economic development. So that do the roll call. >> Ryland >> here. >> Daniel here, Kathy
>> here. >> Jan here. >> Carl and Jamie are as of now absent. Okay, I know Jason Baker. >> Jason's still working here though, isn't he?
>> Okay, >> I'm always trying to keep a beat on that. >> That's good. He's probably been here some >> ESST business, I guess. All right. So, we have a agenda.
Does it look okay? Add corrections. Anything? >> That looks good for me. >> Thank we approve the agenda. >> Second. See no changes. All in favor sign by saying I. >> I
November 24th minutes and a half. Make a motion to approve. Second. And Daniel. No other comments. All those in favor see f saying I. >> I guess.
>> Yeah, we're getting down there now with the brand. Um, so I'll just read here. The Oronoo branding projects getting its final product. Tulip tree issued final brands below for a final vote. Uh you'll see on in on your [ __ ] they're listed on the next page
um website in the city there was voted with paper available in city hall flyers were hung throughout the city and you can see a copy of the flyer is well I showed it to you in the last meeting uh created electronically such as social media so it was on Facebook pages and so
on and they came to a final vote as you can see on the next page the final vote was option one one basically any% to 20%. Uh color is highly subjective. The logos are shown in black and white so the community can focus on the design
itself. Color will be added once the final logo is selected. That will be rolled out in the next couple months from what I've heard from Tulip Tree. Uh as Ryland knows, Tulip Tree's had some turnover in uh their office as far as
workers have left come in. So it'll it'll be it'll it'll get done. UA steering committee are working through the next steps to finalize the logo. Uh stay tuned for the official roll out. With the roll out of the brand, it will also have the statement rooted in
community growing toward tomorrow. >> The tagline. >> The tagline. Yeah. And so that's just information on what's up with the brand at this point. >> Oh. Did Whitney share a timeline with getting back to us? >> A couple months.
>> Couple months. >> Yeah, I wasn't specific on it. You >> may have said that. I may have. >> No, it wasn't specific. >> I like our tagline meets option two a little bit better than the one. >> It's true. >> I mean, maybe it should be flowing
>> or tomorrow. I don't know. Rooted with int >> really as you look at them. Yeah, I'm notic. >> But then the water is for growing. So
>> we don't want compromise. >> We don't want the water to grow though. Then we get a flooded park. >> That is that going to be was the plan to have several taglines or that's their recommendation or what's >> that's recommendation. Yeah, >> they're saying
>> we brought that up in one of the first meetings we had, a virtual >> meeting we had. We're in the community growing towards tomorrow. So >> So I got people on both sides of me really. I don't think they like it now. I'm >> the tagline. >> Yeah.
>> But I'm not on the committee. So >> Right. So well, >> it's a long tagline, >> isn't it? >> Yeah. Also will be outdated and >> they can easily take it out. >> Yeah. Yeah. So if it >> will be outdated after we hit capacity,
right? Growing. But >> yeah, >> probably not be in my lifetime, but you never know. >> I like the growing part. >> Yeah, that's fine. Well, >> because they're so going back and forth. The root of diarrhea just make it like the tree won.
But >> yeah, >> the roots didn't. Maybe there's a better word for rooted. >> Yeah, both of them go over the tree. But that both of them go over the tree and and rooted.
>> I mean, it doesn't say anything. >> It doesn't say anything about flowing and >> going to towards tomorrow. That's a tree and and rooted in community is a tree. Yeah. >> The tree didn't win. Well, that's that's not the tagline is going to be separate from
the the logo. Correct. >> The workshop. >> So, a tagline can be a part of the community but not part of the logo. Gotcha. >> Yeah. So, but I'll bring that to Whitney's
>> I imagine somebody can come up with some synonyms that make it work >> sound a little less of a tree, >> more of a bridge in water. I don't know. >> It the message is good ultimately,
>> but it is long when it's on the city truck, you know? That's what I think of. But maybe that's not where it's going on the city truck. I just assume that anything with the logo, >> right, and the, you know, the official documents that come out of the city will
obviously have the logo and maybe it'll have it underneath a small writing about the community growing tomorrow. That's something we can definitely decide when they roll that baby out. Yeah. What the use cases of it are come
up with something bridged. >> Yeah. kind like bridge in the future. >> There you go. >> Something something to emphasize that if we want to try and do that, have the bridge >> worked in three words, >> right? >> Bridging the future,
short, concise, nice. >> And we got to make it like whatever we use if that's chosen. But whatever how bridge is used, we want to make sure it doesn't come across as being we're broken. And now we got a bridge to
break us >> to pull us together between >> you can use bridges east and west or north and south. I >> crossing building even I would imagine that you could connecting like there's a lot of words that you could probably throw in
there. uses bridge and bridging towards the future something like that because of their discovered bridge there. >> That's good to know. >> How about damn it all >> gone with the lake
bridging >> the ocean front property >> just a tie to a logo. Yeah, I will share that with her. >> That's agreeable with everybody. >> Yeah. >> All right.
Move on. 5B. Uh this is just review for you. Uh meeting times have changed a little bit. will still meet the same fourth Tuesday of each month, but the meeting time has been changed to 5:30 from 6:30 as we all agree to on the y >> email that was sent out. I don't think
that's a surprise to anybody. Um, but that will be and I'll every email I send out I'll try to emphasize it's 5:30 because I know you may think 6:30 in your head because it's been for a lot of years. >> Yeah. So, that's great.
>> We'll stick with that. And if there's any questions on that, let me know. Uh, new business. Moving on to 6A. So, the bylaws of the EDA are pretty thorough except they
don't have listed in the bylaws the length of the terms. So when the original group took over uh I've listed here underneath 6A >> here's a copy of the if you don't have a copy of the bylaws
>> so the bylaws underneath section 2.1 it does not list it lists terms but does not list the length of the terms so when the EDA was started the initial members so the first EDA members which we don't have to worry about now shall be
appointed for six for terms of 1, two, three, four, and five years, respectively, so that they're not so when their terms are up, not everybody is up at one time. >> So, we'll put that in there. And two
members for six years. Thereafter, all commissioners shall be appointed for six-year terms. So, this will just be information put into the bylaws for the future for people who are, you know, when their term is up. Like for example, Adam, uh,
his term is up this year and he's chosen to not seek another term. >> Um, >> is that why you had the thing on? >> That's why I posted it today on Facebook. I saw that the opportunity. >> So, we have one seat open again.
>> So, we're doing the having to go through the same process on age friendly for local. >> Okay. uh with the bylaws and the terms and everything and uh we had a attorney in Winona um that Marsha Kger
shared with us and so we used or were pro bono put our bylaws together. So, I sent her an email. We had the same question. She says, "Okay, here's the bylaws. Don't mention the terms. We mentioned the officer, no names, no terms except a three-year term or six-year term." And what she suggested
was don't change your bylaws, but put like in our meeting minutes for this month, just put in, >> okay, >> new members or the members and the current status and the current terms kind of like we're talking about here going forward. At least it's documented
in our meeting minutes and it's not changed bylaws. >> Okay. So, just the fact that we spoke about it, keep it in the minutes. >> Yeah. >> Okay. That'd be a lot easier. >> I just kind of I got a response back from this afternoon. I sent it to her Friday and she came back.
>> Okay. Well, we'll uh okay these minutes at our February meeting. Then from that point on, that will be >> next year. We can do it December, January, or whatever. effective first the year. >> So, we'll just add So, depending on what
you guys vote, we'll add that to the minutes. That's great. And then that'll be in your bylaws from now or that'll be a part of it from now on. >> Yeah, that's okay with everybody. Easy easier way to do it than changing
bylaws. So, we need a motion to accept the bylaws. Is that correct? >> No, we don't need to do anything with bylaws except what you're put in the minutes here. >> A motion to accept >> the terms >> of the length.
>> Well, we need to There's election here, isn't it? >> Yeah. >> Election of officers. >> Oh, it's in the next item. >> Yeah. >> So, five, six A and B together. and just add
titles, officer titles all another column or some place in there. >> Okay. >> Well, yeah, the officers are in the bylaws. They're already in there for president, vice president, so on.
>> Right. on and I'll do this for the chair to get that to show the election of officers, >> but we don't I don't have that list in all my >> It should be in the >> board packet. >> Should be in your >> Yeah, it's in your >> Oh, there it is. I'm sorry.
>> So, now do you want to move it down to election of officers? Okay. So in 6B we have election of officers. Our current executive board is presidents Ryland, vice president's Jamie. I believe I'm the secretary from what I've seen.
>> Uh and we don't have a treasurer per se because we don't really have a budget. So that'd be a pretty sweet job at this point. >> In the past, we didn't have a treasures. A treasure is just more of a fill the blank, you know, prayer vital.
So we can definitely have >> last year was the first year was I think Dana was our treasurer. >> I think the judge that's resigned was part of the board. >> Yeah. Marsha >> she was she she
>> yeah treasurer whatever she took something on >> and then >> and then Dana took it over for a year. She was here for two years. that Daniel replaced Dana as a city representative. So
>> can we trust you with the money? >> I can be trusted with no money. Yes. >> Or somebody else it would be. >> So it sounds like we're going to >> have zero money. >> You're going to be elected as treasur. Congratulations, David. >> That's my title.
>> Daniel, president or treasury. for either one, Daniel, for you to move up to president. >> Oh, no. He was saying, "No, I think who do we want for president?" President. >> Oh, I I thought he did that too with you. Get you into the presidency. I
think that's a good idea. >> Well, I don't know if he can be president because he's a city council. >> Oh. >> Member leazison. So that may be a Ryland's been president though. >> Yeah. Would you like to be president
again? >> I can do one more year. >> Anybody have objection with Ryland being president again? >> Would anybody like to volunteer to be vice president? >> Big shoes. Jan, congratulations.
Be a secretary. Salt my manhood, but I'll take it. So, our 2026 executive board will be president will be Ryland, vice president will be Jan, treasurer will be Daniel, and I will be secretary. And they will you will fill complete
your current term. But from this point on, new members will serve six-year terms. That sound good to everybody? Mhm. >> Because that will be a part of the minutes which would be rules and follow.
>> Do we want to stagger any of those if they get filled at the same exact time? >> Well, that person will fill the they would they would fill in >> they'll continue the term, >> right? >> Yeah. So like Carl for example, Carl's term is up next year because he filled
in for that person. Yeah. So So they do stagger. >> Yeah. So, we're good with from this point on, new members, >> if they complete the term of the person they're taking over, >> and if they want to stay on, they will have a six-year term after that.
>> So, it staggers. And I'm not sure how to how do we motion that, Ryland? How do we say that in a motion? So, I make a motion we approve the terms and office positions
for 2026. Good to have that reflective table attached. >> Second in the in the meeting there too. >> Okay. >> Then do you want to put down Do you want to put in a minutes that Jan
and and >> Oh, yes. And and list the officers. >> And yeah, list the officers. >> Yep. I'll have that on there for the 2026 officers. Okay. Oh, great.
There. Any more questions on that? Hopefully with Jamie we're as we're we're bumping up against some missed meeting stuff too. I think we need to >> I mean those are all un unavoidable circumstances of family members passing away but
>> yeah she said she was traveling today I believe >> that will be such a valuable resource. Mhm. Yeah, that's good. >> All right, we'll move on to 6C. Uh,
stages of development for the Orno EDA. Um, so open lots, open lots of Orno may be used for various stages of development such as industry, commercial, residential, which I know you're all familiar with. The city of Ornoo has experienced significant development activity in the recent years. In response, the city's established obviously the EDA to support
and guide future development efforts. The EDA, as it said before, composes city residents who oversee development proposals and evaluate their consistency with the city's comprehensive plan. What I'm looking at is how do we get the EDA to have more of an a poll in what's
being said uh with the city. So, is such things as development. Uh I one thing I will say being the EDA director I've been a part of more development meetings in two months in Ornokco than I have in my other communities in two or three years. I think you're very familiar with
the fact that development is happening within the city and with the EDA we have an opportunity to is to be the people or be the driving force to help and take some of the take uh information off the plate. that
information um takes some stuff off the plate of Jason and the city council. So what I mean by that is you know we have several open lots attracted interest from private developers development corporations may present potential projects to the economic
development authority for consideration. So, if somebody, for example, we've seen uh People's Energy Co-op, uh we had Marty Walsh come in, give that whole shiel to us, and from that point on, we can take that and we can kind of go
through this list, and then we can say yes, this is good and okay, or no, it's not good. Send it on to the city council. So, what I've listed here is development process may include these steps. These are the steps that the EDA would go through and feel free to say that we don't need that one or we need
to add this one or that one or we need to uh kind of marinate on this for another month. Uh and then I can type it up in a more professional setting. Uh so we'd hear like a presentation of future development plans at the EDA. We'd have have them come to the EDA meeting and
you would hear what this developer would like to do. uh discussion of potential financing which may be tax increment such as a tiff or a tax abatement which they may use. Uh we can use Mike Bubani to help with that as it works for the
city. Receipt and review of bids offers for the purchase of the land and city own land evaluation of consistency with the city's comprehensive and future land use plans. We want to make sure you know they fit in. We don't want somebody coming in and putting a brand new factory right in was it River Park drainage district because that's a
residential area. Uh let's see the agreement if we need to be a part of that conduct conduct of required public hearing if that's something that we need to have
as a as a public hearing. If accepted, a forwarding the development proposal to the city council for final approval. A preparation adoption of the resolution authorizing the sale of the land would be sent to the city council. Uh referral of proposed development to
planning and zoning for review and recommendations. So we would see the possible development and then we would send it to planning and zoning and planning and zoning would make sure it fits all the setbacks and everything that would fit for that.
personal development >> also something would see too then >> what's that >> city engineer would see that >> yeah he'd be a part of all he'd be a part of the planning and zoning >> we would bring in the city engineer he would more than likely be a part of one of the first meetings >> I know we had the city
>> engineer planning services I'm not sure >> yeah so this is all >> we have city engineering we also have city planning services that supports B&Z >> yep >> are They work together between engineering and service. >> So we try to get all of them on the same page for like the initial meeting. >> Yeah.
>> So we can knock that out at one time. >> Okay. So for the presentation very first bullet is that taking place of what happens at city hall with with Jason and you I'm
assuming and I don't know if anybody from Stantech or >> Yeah. Usually it's the engineer and the city planner have been a part of those first meetings. >> That first bullet takes the place of that meeting and so the meeting then
>> we could the f that first meeting it'd be nice to bring it to the EDA to have that here and kind of get the EDA feel of it. >> Sure. >> And a lot of times it's uh there are ver people virtually on. Mhm.
>> I suppose because of 5:30 in the evening, I don't know if that's going to be good or bad for that meeting. But um if that's the time, if they can't meet at that time, myself, Jason, I would put it out to you if you could be a part of the meeting if we met at 2:30
on a, you know, Thursday >> and that could take place then and then from that meeting, I can bring that information to the EDA >> to the to our next meeting for approval. I was just wondering if that's because you had mentioned taking stuff off Jason
and city staff's plate if that then replaces the meetings that are that are the initial meetings that are already happening. Do those then just come here first? >> Yeah. >> And the very initial meeting is going to take place here. And then I guess the
second question is um are those meetings always uh okay to be public? That's a good qu. You mean uh usually the f initial meeting that we have is
usually it's not public but the public are welcome to it. It's not a closed door meeting once it comes >> publicized either. It'll be publicized once we speak of it in ADA. Yeah. >> So, it's if it's a workshop,
>> which is kind of what it is. >> Yeah. That's just the the only thing that I'm getting at is if >> we're trying to take take stuff off of staff plate. >> Yeah. I don't know that unless it fully
comes here and then it's always okay to be public on YouTube that somebody's looking to come in here, right? >> So, I can imagine that there are going to be times where like they don't want to put their name out there right away, right?
>> Definitely. Um, and so then I don't I don't necessarily want it to be a Well, in this case, we need to keep it at 2:00, but for all these other cases, we're keeping it at 5:30 and we're
putting it on YouTube. So, I think it has to be standard, very standardized no matter what. side. What if the first meeting we had would be like we've been doing and then if they want to move forward then they would obviously they'd be okay
with being public then they would come to EDA. >> Yeah. And I wouldn't be opposed to that first meeting staying the way it is, but also becoming uh either a Zoom >> presentable to the remaining EDA because then we can at least be on board, >> okay,
>> with it or invited to physically attend >> or keep it the way it is because that's I just don't I don't want somebody to come through and be like, well, we you know, EDA or council was super secretive about this one thing coming through and
now we're just hearing about it. So, the process probably has to be uniform and the same regardless. Um, and if it's open to public, an open door, um, >> it might be
might be a a developer's preference to >> that, right? That's that's a very good point >> for him. >> But I would hate I would hate >> Yeah. I would hate for them to be like, um, we don't really want to present at a
a public meeting. We want to just spitball right now. >> Exactly. >> Um, that's my only hesitation with that first meeting here like across the board is is uniformity for that meeting and
um probably you the developer preference. Yeah, that first meeting we have which is not with the EA ones I've been to there asking a lot of questions like what will the city that's why Jason's always there >> city engineer is always there
>> and then they'll kind of get their ducks in a row and from that point on >> they come up with proposal and then we bring it to EDA. >> Okay. Yeah, that makes more sense because I would hate for like
>> also for us to have city contracted employees here by the hour >> and then we have additional questions that they don't really need to be here to answer. >> I can see that where that >> So like Jay, we'll use Jason's example.
He'd be a part of the first meeting, but then he wouldn't have to because he would know what's going on, >> right? >> And so would the engineers. >> Yeah. kiddo or Evan needed to be here for the second one, that's fine. But if not, they wouldn't. Okay. >> If they're going to put their input in,
>> I think that's a much better >> I mean, and then that moves to bullet two is how much how often does tax incentives and abate and abatements come into play in that first meeting. So the one,
you know, we had three, we had one uh where it did. >> Okay, >> that's why I put that in. That's just as >> and I think that's a very appropriate thing for us to discuss here but and maybe not even broach the
subject of of it if they bring it up in that first meeting. Maybe it's a we have to bring it to EDA. >> Should we have the tax tiff because that would have to go to council. that would ultimately have to >> we just keep that on council
rather than because we as an EDA will discuss you know you you want to get a 9-year tiff for that >> correct >> so that so I can take that out I'll go straight to council >> that's probably >> I think it depends too if it's a residential or commercial
>> t doesn't really go with commercial or with real estate relative >> that's true >> tiff is more of a business type thing looking good and that's up to 9 years because we had some discussions at the council level with uh discussion about
uh fire safety. >> Yeah, that's what I was thinking. >> And a couple of the council members said we don't want to do it. Couple of the council members said well it's something worth looking at but maybe only four or five years >> u for various reasons. So, as it turns
out, fire safety decided not to do anything because in my opinion, TIFF is kind of a there's a great I was going to mention this too. I wrote down LMC, I think Minnesota cities has a chapter on
financing developments. It's chapter 24 and I think it's good be good for everybody to see that covers a lot of information about financing not only tiff and tax but also for
infrastructure and land use usage land and parkland dedications and a whole bunch of stuff I think it' be good for everybody to see that I can send you the either send you the link to put the >> minutes >> minutes >> sure >> I think it' be good for everybody to see
that I come across that today on some other stuff I was looking at. So, >> it's probably reasonable to keep the financial tools and tax stuff with council.
>> I I don't have a I'm not opposed to keeping it here, but then inviting council to attend a workshop, turn it in into a workshop instead of a meeting, I guess. I don't know how we would get around with open meeting law and all that. I mean, we would just have to post it,
>> but if that was something that had to be discussed, I don't see a problem with bringing council to EDA to discuss it prior to council meetings because that's just going to increase the lang
subjective subject. I think that we we could spend a lot of time talking about it and council set something else but >> I do think there's a lot of other EDA recommendations that we can give to council >> and I think that's more appropriate for
what EDA would do >> whatever it might be >> depends on the project I guess >> yeah like we would how it fits with a city's comprehensive plan or future land use we'd recommend fits or just overall agreement. Yeah. Purchase
of the land to accept the purchase or >> so then reviewing bids and offers. How do we go about researching that as a group? Is that something that it's a fair value? Like how >> Yeah. >> How do we go about
>> you know I figured we'd use Adam and he's not anymore and Carl in real estate themselves. um see some comparable I always say look at the comps first you know let's hypothetically say
uh developer came in want to spy the river river hills park >> sure you know we'd we'd research with the help of real estate how how much to pay for whe
>> would we have to go out and pay I would like to have some kind of survey done to not survey but >> these guys I think they just plug the information in these realators do and they come up with the comps and >> so >> that's what they'll loan money the banks
will loan money for >> for homes that's fairly easy but for land empty land that is where it kind of gets sticky because of the developmental costs associated with each individual
unique piece piece of >> property that makes them >> they have to do like an environmental study and >> well and that could be to developer I mean that's the other thing is but aren't we having a
uh asset survey done with the city so that piece >> facility buildings >> okay so that's just the facility >> just the buildings >> okay I was under the impression that was going to take place um that would include the city owned lots and land as
well. But >> yeah, there's been talk of doing that. >> Okay. >> But I think the money that we budgeted for was just to go through our facilities and do an assessment of our facilities. >> Okay. All right. >> You can check with Jason or with too or
Rachel. That would be a question that I would have then is to how do we how do we come up with the the knowledge of um knowing that the the bid or whatever
is a reasonable bid. So sometimes you're when you talk about bare land as you see around they always actually the city has some they come in with they got to do soil in other words depending what they want to build on that land >> right
>> and if they got to move dirt and level the land out thing a lot of times they got to come and have the soil come in and part of that thing is they do soil samples to see how much rock is somewhere what's all underneath of it and my question. I don't know about the
seal lock, but that's a big factor and what a price of a lot would would run because if you got to do a lot of uh rock removal or whatever, um then because of foundation they're going to put in, they say, "Well, a lot for us isn't worth that much because it's going
to take this much." >> Yeah. >> To do it. So I I don't know how much the city has like that, but I just know when it comes to a lot of land, bare land, you see them all around town doing soil samples and everything else because they want to know just exactly what >> for the biders that are going to come in
and bid your project what it's going to cost for it to esavate. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I think those soil boards would have to be, you know, some seem like be done by the developer.
>> Yeah, they usually have a They need to know how much cost they're going to put into excavations and everything else. So, >> and then if we have to add that into a development agreement, then you know, we can we can do that. True. >> Because I know like the uh condo project, you know, they did their own
insuring company did their own soil works. >> Yeah. I mean, it >> didn't come to the city asking for funds for those. >> Yeah. I mean, that's the smartest thing to do is because we can tell them there's no rocks in there. >> Yeah. We can >> we don't have any rocks in there. >> Anywhere we can hit rocks. There's no rocks.
>> There's sand down by the river, but after that, you're on your own. >> Yep. Yep. That's about it. So, I think they have to do it themselves to cover their own bottom dollar. >> Um, what
kind of public hearings would we have here that wouldn't be more appropriate? >> Well, that's public hearing for the EDA is if if our name was on the land, the open lots. I if the city put all the open land into the EDA and somebody
bought it because you're selling public city land, you're required to have a public hearing. >> Okay? >> So, we would have the public hearing during an EDA meeting. >> Okay? >> Then you wouldn't have to have it during a city council meeting. Okay? >> But it's city property only the public hearing applies to,
>> right? And it would still be a recommendation to sell or would we be would be recommendation to council to approve the sale? >> Yes. >> Yeah. Everything that >> everything Yeah. Council >> recommendation.
>> So is Yeah. And we're our recommendation let's say to sell would go to planning and zoning whatever they're going to do on that land. So then the council would get this. They'd say the EDA recommends to sell blah blah blah. Planning and zoning recommends to sell.
Yeah. Makes it easy for the city council kind of taken some work off their plate. >> Give them more comprehensive information on to >> Yeah. So, we wouldn't have to worry about what buildings are going to put on the size of the buildings and the height
and that stuff. That would be the planning and zoning. Mhm. >> Um where they're going to put roads and we would look at that, but that would go once again to planning and zoning. >> Okay. Yeah, I don't have any real issues with any of the bullet points. I just
have those questions to clarify exactly what >> we'll take out the second, you know, the financing tools because that stuff's >> I don't think we have any business recommending tiff and tax stuff to council.
>> I I think that we could have a discussion with them here if we really think that it would be beneficial. I think that it would be a good idea to bring them in early and and have the discussion of why it would benefit
>> so that that conversation can happen not on the city council 4hour meetings that we average. So >> uh they're getting shorter. I'm doing better. We're doing better. They're still long. But so how about all
>> but I do think that there's reasonable >> to talk about it here in certain circumstances but >> I think if we do we need to extend that invitation to potentially make it >> so >> so that conversation's happening
>> here not on the city council meeting. So I'll update this, you know, take that out. Maybe re like for example um the question is how to come acknowledge that it's a reasonable bid. Um do we come up with
additional help? Let me do a little research on it and I'll bring back a revised copy at the next meeting. >> And I would say that if if uh um >> Carl >> Yeah. is comfortable and he feels like
he has knowledge or he can do that. I just don't want to speak for him here not not being here. >> But if that's something that that he feels comfortable doing too >> and Jamie and >> I mean even if there's people we can
reach out to in the community that are real estate and whatever. I mean, we can do that, but um yeah, and then maybe if tax
incentives or tools are requested, then maybe we have to move to a workshop including council. >> Yeah. And that's where it would go to Mike Bonnie. Um he's the >> Yeah. guy who would run all those numbers and he would then bring that to the council.
>> Yeah. and he would so that would be off. >> I mean I think that if if a developer says hey this this is the benefits of us coming to you and but we need this help we can then say well we maybe we set up a workshop with council before the next
council meeting or whatever >> that way we can move that process along. We're not you know waiting months for that. Yeah, I keep looking through the mess. The list I got to keep in mind this is city owned property. >> Oh, so there's like five five lots,
right? >> Yeah. >> One, two, three. The two up on the hill and one in front. It's three lots. And then of course this stuff here. Yeah.
>> So it raises the question. Is there >> the one in front? Are you talking about next to the Alamo? >> Yes. Yeah. Uh what do we consider if we're buying buying some land the city? >> Yeah.
>> Well, yeah, we can always consider that if you're >> interested in the city's interested in buying a lot. Yeah. >> I just I can't think of anything very off because we don't have a lot left. One nice big city bought the house next
to DG Market. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, >> that may be considered after if they annex some land in the future. >> Yeah. >> Where's this at? >> Well, it was a it was a lot that sold a few years ago, but it's the house that's
right next to DG Market. >> Stores a pontoon and a gopher, I think. >> Yeah, the basement's kind of full of water. >> Yeah, I know where you're talking about. Yeah. You can fat go for the hoods on that optimistic. He painted a little blue up there a couple years ago and >> look better
out front. But yeah, it's too bad. >> It' be nice sometime when the land across the street a little bit to the south that open area. >> You think Allen owns the property farm to >> Yeah. The Allen.
>> Yeah. Yeah. the island thing or the one by our house. >> Yes. Yeah. >> Yeah. Both owned by the same person. So >> Okay. >> Yes. That would be a reason. Yes. So
I'll tweak this and and bring it to our February meeting. Okay. Thank you for your questions on that. All right, move on to 6D. So, people's energy development. Now, unless I've
heard unless you've heard differently, I know Marty was going to wait until the city finalized their ordinances, new ordinances. So, I I don't know if he's 100% on one or the other, but he had two different groups uh present
their proposal for that lot of people's energy development. They had a 5 acre lot right over by the never know where we're talking. >> So, one was DBS Group out of Rochester. Uh there was to put nice apartment
buildings in that spot. Uh and the other one was Judish and Judish which were looking at apartments or town homes that can uh those were both up in the air. I think Marty was kind of leaning towards
Judish. Judish what I heard, but I'm not 100% sure. But we listen to those together. >> DBS and Judish and Judish. It's on there. It's a father son group. They're out of I believe they're out of Rochester. >> Yes.
>> So, nothing has moved forward as of right now. Like I said, once the new ordinances are passed, I think then he'll >> lot size is just the whole code. >> Yeah, the different codes that go with
it. But that's just to keep you as EDA in the know of what was going on. It was down to two different construction companies. Those are the new construction companies. >> What's this little blurp about considering Dragon Project? >> Yeah. >> Uh because well, what I heard
Considering the drag. What did I put that in there for? >> Is that what that to me means? There's three people. >> No, the dragon project. It was because is the dragon project supposed to be all like a bunch of town homes? >> Condos.
>> Condos. >> Yeah. >> So, it may lean towards apartments because there'll be so many condos in that dragon development if that's going to go through. >> I think that's in there. CBS is working on the Duke court rocket cross one.
>> Yeah. And I got that on the next one here, >> but I can give you an update on Dragon's project. So, as far as I know, uh they've had a change. Dragon had a architect that he was using last summer
and that passed away. So, he has a new architect and I got this from Bill Toon, the engineer, uh just before Christmas. So he's he's not changing anything on the preliminary plat besides the building, but they are looking at
redesigning some of the floor plans, I guess. But it's still going to stay 14, 16 buildings, quads, and hopefully they'll be doing some work this spring started, but that's still the plan. It's just kind of slow
process getting back going up again. The new architect. >> Okay. don't have any dates or anything. They've had of course they have a preliminary plat's been approved but I haven't heard anything about and development agreement. I'm not sure where is that if it's been approved or not.
>> Okay. >> If it's not approved it's in process. >> Yeah. I don't know why. >> It's not free. It's Yeah, it's just two at this point. Um, I also can give an update for Dukeart property.
>> Yeah. Here, let me like So, 6E is a Dukeart property, >> right? So, I sent a note to Tammy when our last meeting with the Dukearts. There was a question about the access. Yeah. off of 100 street and they have to work because the access that was there
was a cup um kind of a semi illegal driveway but anyway it's there but now going forward any new people have to go through the planning county behind me service because and so
um Tammy the supervisor that handles the planning for the township thought it was going to be February there was going to be some discussion with the county planning department on uh approving that excess. >> Okay.
>> And uh so they may and that's your next picture. >> So we had a meeting with DBS um the 2nd of December and the Dukard family live well they've got that land
has that big equestrian barn. >> Yeah. and they're looking to make that into a commercial park. And you can see the engineering what it would look like. Their big issue is you can see on the map or on the picture here is that
access of 100th which Ryland just said in the center of the property. That's what they're looking at right now with the county. So, and like we said, I wouldn't hear anything from February. Ron, is this is this in city land right now? >> That's what I wondered. Is it C
town right over here for the >> now? They got proved they're going to look to possibly annex. >> Yeah, it starts starts right here and goes over to just about here. This is a 30 35
acres. It's a residential house here. No, I'm sorry. It's this house here. So, this it's an L-shaped this property here. It comes over here. This is a lady that lives here on this property will exist, but So but this property right here. So because of where it's at, it's
doesn't touch any of our city limits because this hasn't been annexed yet. And this is a a township residence and he could purchase that. There was some discussion of possibly purchasing that, mining that.
That's that's another possibility. So right now if they get the access um they will probably still have to work with the county to get a sewer and water. There's a water well now and a sewer right there now for this building
when he put it in origin. Mark Keane put the property in originally spawn from Mark Keane was on the east side from a utility standpoint. Everything that was this lift station over lift station four which is right
here where right here station 4 which is here. This lift station was designed big enough to go a quarter of a mile south of the border or south of the city limits that would all drain. This is the knife valley that goes right through here. So we had a drain to the to the lift
station forward and it goes into our sewer system. The water if this was ever annexed the water would drip through here. There's no the water stops goes across through here but it doesn't come down here.
>> So you say the white one is the white part is not annexed and they have to cross that. >> Right. They have if we annex it. >> So how would you run your sewer and water to there? >> What's that? >> How would they run the sewer and water? because that has to be on public property. They just couldn't run the
sewer across that piece of property. It's not annexed. >> Yeah. They wouldn't do this until it's annexed. >> Huh. >> They put in their own sewer and their own water >> until >> Right. I just I what I was going to say is this property that you're talking about down beyond that would want sewer
and water. How would they get their sewer and water there >> when this is annexed? >> When it's annexed. >> Yeah. When it's annexing, there'll be sewer utility coming in this area, there'll be >> So, they can't really do anything until that other part is annexed. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> I mean, they can't annex this because can't you got too big of a space in
between there that isn't annexed? >> That's what I thought. I was just That's >> so That's why it's a standalone and I and we've explained it maybe. We don't know what the status of this 155 acres when that's going to be annexed. It's obviously for sale, but we haven't heard
any time frame for development and and you know, even if a person comes in and annexes this first portion here as long as it's across the street, then it's potentially could be added. >> So all that so it could be five years away, four years.
So that Dukeart commercial property is looking to go in the township then currently. >> Yeah. >> Well, initially yes. Yeah. Yeah. >> And they just had a meeting with Jason was there. Ryan, were you you were
in the meeting, right? >> And uh um who was the >> Lyn Cornic was the special projects person for the township. >> Lynn knew what was going on. She was she was sharp. She she knew her stuff. So yeah, if I hear anything more about
it, I'll be sure to bring it in. >> Uh, okay. And just for information, I ask her about Linda King's property if they've heard anything and it's been crickets too from the township side. So because right now, you know, we have in September the council approved a
resolution giving her six months to sign the petition for annexation. Oh, that goes up to March 25th, I think it is. And there's been no she she termed that there was no there's
been no uh billing of attorneys on the township side that they had some communications with the attorney for Linda King. So it's just quiet every place and we have not heard anything either here. >> All right.
Uh 6F I wrote a grant. Well, I tried to write a grant by the state orgo was called Southeast Minnesota Smalltown Energy Efficiency and Conservation Planning Grant. So, what this is is a uh the city is looking how to save money and become more energy
efficient with about every everything you could think of. So, every building within the the city owns, you know, as example, lighting and so on. So Krauss Anderson uh wrote a proposal for them for the city and then
I wrote a $15,000 grant which I just found out last week was denied. So >> it was it was all for nothing is what it was. But uh the fact that we wrote it puts us in the running for if uh so
let's say a city of I don't know Byron got it and then Byron doesn't want it then it's like the lady who lost got second in Miss America she's there if Miss America can't go we'll be there so that'll be good. So yeah I wrote that
baby and yeah I got to >> that's a bummer. >> Yeah it was we'll get that. You ever heard of grants.com? >> Well, I have not. grants.com. I can't imag. So, there were some grants I would start to look at, but I think you got to pay
like $40 a month to get to the next step if I those grants are. >> Yeah, some of them are. Can somebody tell me what they're building over by Casey's? >> Two. They're >> over here.
>> Well, the one is Rochester Fire extinguisher. The one building, I believe. >> Is it manufacturing or is it >> He sells a fire Rochester fire extinguisher or whatever. He sells fire trucks, fire truck or whatever. Whatever. Wire truck.
>> Um bing garage. So, like when you go to any car dealership, you go in to look at the car inside, you go and look at firet trucks. >> Well, pickups should have been out of there. >> Fire truck. I thought they were modifying like go and buy a fire truck. >> You go there and give it to them.
>> Wow. >> They outfit it and then get it back to >> Is it a national organization? >> It's out of Rochester. >> They send it they they get fire trucks >> nationally. So like all of them like regional >> fire extinguishers everything. So they
have a showroom >> the west side of Rochester and then they have offices and they're putting it all together here. >> Part of one building of the two. >> No that's so that's not even broke ground yet. One of the buildings that's up is flooring
>> and the other building is electrical. out. My understanding is the electrical is from not >> it's it's commercial only for I'm not sure. >> I think you could if you needed stuff you could go in and buy stuff but it's
out like it's geared towards >> somebody that's buying to outfit an entire new build. >> Gotcha. Commercial. >> But I think I think you can go in like they'll have >> an outlet >> like for you. Yeah. go get >> ah
>> and it's called LDM Electric. >> Okay. >> And they're out of Maple Grove. They're putting another store here. >> A wholesale house wholesale >> kind of my understanding.
>> Jungie owns the but there'll be a showroom for like if you need a breaker or something like that, you could probably go and get it. Then the other part of the building is the communications firm, stain book,
communications. They sell uh camera security systems buildings >> like custom alarm. >> Yeah. >> So there's two buildings that are up right now. Yeah, >> probably what you're asking. But then
fire safety >> is going to be that open lot directly across from Casey'sville. >> I think there's two lots there, three lots. >> When these places come in, do they talk about the number of employees or employment or anything like that?
>> I've never seen them advertise employment. Now, they haven't opened either. So, I >> That was just always the big question in in K. How many people is it going to? Maybe they come with their own employees. >> A lot of times if you say how many people you're going to jobs, you're
gonna add, you would get grants, but these haven't looked for grants. So >> generally we you get that information if they were asking for tiff or they were asking for assistance. Then that's where we would get the information. How many new jobs are you creating from this and
>> this and that. But if they come in, and this is just my understanding, but if they come in and they they meet the >> the zoning requirements that they they'll get their permits and they can start building and >> then we don't Yeah. have anything really to say about it or do about. It's just
interesting to me because yeah, the focus before for me was always how many, you know, how many jobs is this going to create? Well, when CH Robinson came in in 2016, they asked for a tiff and this council
gave it to them because they were having five to seven jobs >> and they moved down here. They're based out of Eden Prairie and they're the world's third largest boarding company. So, they have a database in outside Chicago and one Eden
Prairie and they want a third one. So the city they came to the tiff or came to us and said we'd like do a tip and we're looking at five to seven employees with that we can pull out of the Rochester area because of the experience to run the data center.
So, um, they built the plant and they started hiring and first was one, then two, then three, and I don't know if they ever got to five, but a couple years later they came back and said, "Okay, um, about this tiff, um, our whole strategyy's changed." And so,
we're going to have one person there, have two people there working 12-hour shifts. M >> and that that must have been about the third or fourth year and council decided not to do anything different with the tiff that we didn't generate the jobs and so
>> because they changed it you know >> it could have been >> I guess we could have been hardnosed about it but we were >> saw this is great for but >> what we learned from that process and it came out of the meeting with the fire
safety is that and um with the nineyear back then we thought nine years and maybe it was was the was the term for a tiff. But in the discussion we had with fire safety they said oh no no no you can this is our financial planner says no you can you can do four you do less
than nine >> four everything's negotiable >> more negotiable so and in that conversation who was here from fire safety they kind of picked up on evidently decided not to go through so they they purchased it
before Christmas and away we go. So >> yeah, >> I I'm always amazed by Rochester. They can do they two tiff districts just like a popcorn, you know. >> Yeah, >> they're a bigger city,
>> right? So >> I don't know. City noteaker newslet I don't know if we got auto >> pull up my uh we lost you one >> on the back.
You just put it over top of that one. >> Yeah. All right. There you go. Then you go up to slideshow on the right. Click that baby. There's your your interview for Ornoo
um EDA. So I got here in July. So I think I got most information from Rebecca. If you want to click just as a review, uh we have goals or members, branding, project development, grants, community,
general community development, and goal other goals. Sorry. So, here's the goals uh that I got for the Orno EDA. improve economic conditions of the city, aid in appropriate developments and create a higher tax base and quality employment
opportunities which come al together. Uh the mission of Orco EDA is to promote coordinate the development and expansion of these special areas of economic activity included but not limited to industry, commerce, housing and tourism while maintaining a high quality of life
for Orco area residents. Look at maybe here's your current members. Uh which you know uh Carl is the only one that got perfect attendance last year uh because he only had to come to one meeting.
Um yeah, overall uh it's I know it's hard to get to these meetings. So thank you. >> Was at every one of them. He has perfect attendance. >> Yeah, Ryland's set the bar high >> trophy. >> He's he's got a traveling trophy. Is >> there a check with that, too? >> Yes, there is. We'll talk to Jason. Go
and hit her again. So, our brand probably the biggest thing which is really amazing thing by the EDA has been the branding project. Um, January an RFP was sent out to those various uh entities, Cracker Jack, Hook Promotions, and so on.
In March, uh, the EDA selected Tulip Tree out of Steuartville, Minnesota to create the brand. It was funded by the EDA. There's a $5,000 donation plus a $5,000 grant from Compier and a $10,000 grant from Smith. Uh both written by
CEDA. Junior had a special meeting um organized representatives from the community to serve on the branding steering project which I think Ryland was a big player in that. You can see all the different groups age friendly
parks and wreck student VFW Lions Club Gold Rush were all part of it. Uh July was when I kind of came on. We had virtual meeting with the committee and with Tulip Tree. There were 11 members present. We narrowed it down to five options. Go enter again.
And this is kind of what we had originally with the different examples of a brand. Go enter again. In August we had a meeting with 10 community members and six brands were reduced to three.
um provided examples from I provided examples to you guys from area cities. Uh and then in September it was the finals were kind of knocked down to the bridge and the tree. I think the tree's on the next one or there we go. Uh
October and December, citywide voting took place to finalize the brand voting virtual and city website as well as manually at city hall. posters were put. You can see the poster on the right there. Distributed around the city. Uh
option one was the winner. And as of now, Tulip Tree will add color with the tagline rooted in community growing to tomorrow. And we'll bring that to Whitney so she sees that the tagline.
See what that we can change it. Go hit her again. You know, since I've been here, like I said, I've been a part of more developments in this small community than other places. Um, this was this year's development
that we were um that we got to see. So, for example, 56 unit condo development that you're very familiar with. Majestic Homes came, talked about the River Park drainage drainfield development. That was their
possible proposal at some point keeping lots the same size. And >> so the picture you have there is for the 43 acres of RA Colosses. >> Okay. And is that dra is that that's not dragon. Is that
>> dragons across the street to the south? >> So yeah, that was a >> maybe you don't have a picture of that. >> I don't have a picture. I think that was >> just for information. Harley Kolas works for Hamilton. He sold that property now and there's a new gentleman that from
South Dakota that owns the property now. >> We haven't talked to him. Um I got the impression probably waiting for the codes to be done. >> Yeah. >> So Ari's family, he has a family that's in real estate and I think his family
was really pushing for do something, but it was codes. It started out with a plan, but it didn't go anywhere with because the codes were um in process. There was a lot of push back from residents and so that's when I
decided not to move ahead with it with the new owner. I don't I think maybe talked to Jason about it, but I don't know. I have not heard his plans, what he plans to do with it, develop it, when, how, we don't know anything.
>> So maybe in the future. Go ahead again, David. Uh, like I said, we just talked about today, the Dukeart commercial park is a possibility, which is not city limits, but let's be honest, if it does become a commercial park, it probably will be within the near future. U
people's energy cooperative development. That's a small strip of land, five acres right by Lernie Walsh came in spoke to us about that grants written this year. There was an age friendly grant for $77,000.
Uh the like I spoke about the brand Smith and Compier which I the fact that the EDA funded that without any city dollars was that's a pretty amazing thing. And then I just wrote this Southeast Minnesota small town energy
efficiency grant which got denied. So let's just salt in the wound. Go ahead and move on. Soo need for more partnerships and awareness of resources. Uh the following organizations may aid in addressing affordable housing, infrastructure,
economic development projects and so on. Uh CEDA, who I work for, is a big player in all these and upped our contract with CEDA. So that be great. Um but yeah, it's just a list there of
organizational groups that can help that we kind of partner ourselves with when needed. not all the time, but when we need something or given and what I look for to bring to the next
meeting are just two two goals that we could as an EDA that are attainable. You know, putting in a housing development is great, but it's like attainable. Um, so if you come, you know, like for
example in Zumbroa, their number one is daycare. holding up daycare and tell you the truth in three years at SB I it's hard to we can't create a daycare you know um so if that's a possibility um
continuing to work with uh our businesses maybe developing a business database could be one where we put it on the website something attainable like that it's pretty easy to say hey we did Especially if you do it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And that's what it would be is me getting all the information and >> I think we kind of started doing that, didn't we? We're uh our last gal was going around gathering information. >> Yep. And we're still doing >> So why not put that Yeah. on a database
>> and we'll hopefully get it on on the website itself so like people go visitors to the website can see what businesses I don't think a lot of people realize the number of businesses that are in or goes unless you're selling an RV >> right
>> those are pretty prominent >> but yeah we'll have a little database but yeah if you think of if you think something the next meeting and we'll we'll discuss Couple things, you know, we asked 50,000
for our budget and that went in part of that was the contract for CEDA for one day every week. And then we had our housing study for 9,000 to 12,000 and then the pedestrian and recreational
trail planning 5,000 to 10,000. >> So I don't know if we want to try and use those. We sure can >> goals what the money was originally planned for and we that's why we put in the request budget request. >> Yeah.
>> Um and the safe routes, you know, that's uh that's a grant provide 45,000 services to conduct. Does everybody I can send this out to make sure it's in front of everybody? This is
>> that from city council. >> What's that? >> Was that Oh, that's from economic. >> This is what we proposed in two city council. >> Okay. >> It's kind of our wish list that we >> write out a copy of that. >> Okay. >> Created that summer over the summer. >> Yeah.
>> To present to council and we did the budget. >> Yeah. So maybe we take with the trail planning for example and make that a >> forefront of. >> So the one thing council didn't and I want to confirm this and maybe use your memory here but when we looked at the
CIP the 262,000 was it only 20,000 that we put towards trails or was it more than that? >> I think a little bit additional went back in there. >> That's I don't remember. I asked Mel
today if I could get a hold of what was with the final numbers that went into the CIP. >> That'll be something that we'd have to work with parks and trails. >> Yes, of course. >> With on, right? Because that's their CIP, >> right? >> It's their CIP, but it's it's just
it could fall into this. It would complement what we're doing here, too. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Be a good good point to work together >> on that one. So, so in this we talked about a grant possibly from um know the housing study
was potential a grant from Compier Financial. Well, we were going to do an RFP I should say for a housing study that could include inclusion of the vacant residential list, rental property analysis and senior facilities needs and
recommendations. And we can Of course. So compliment what Dre is doing. >> I thought that we do. We still have the confir 5,000 because I'm pretty sure council approved 5,000
for the branding project. >> I just saw the and then the comir if that's >> dragon did 5,000. >> Yeah, because the >> the city did 5,000. >> That's right. >> The city did give $5,000. >> Yeah. And then the $10,000 grant and we
were capped at 20 >> because I think at 20 >> I think Tulip Tree was asking 186 or something like that and we ended up getting 20 but it was the donation $10,000 grant. City council did the
remaining 5,000 >> the grant. >> So I wonder if the com grant is actually just that for the housing study. Do we still have those? >> We were looking for the RFP for the housing study.
So on this record, recreation was the safety school. Ralph was looking at working with the Pine Island to in the limit to the city limits, right? So, >> safe routes to school.
>> Mhm. >> That >> safe routes to school. >> Safe routes. >> Yeah. >> Yes. Yes. you know, for 2026. What I'd like to see, we're three years into this
into this EDA that we get a project, we get something to make us more legitimate, more of a really few. I mean, what we've done here is
we've done a brand new project and we've done a we've done a survey in three years and the city council at a point didn't want to cut the funding, didn't want to put a lot of money towards something. But what I didn't what I still didn't understand was that
the at the time the EDA was created the city council really thought that we needed EDA and or no and really wanted to push to get EDA started and everything else and >> they kind of >> just said yeah I mean they were all we need it we have to have it
>> we need volunteers to serve on this committee go through the whole process we do our bylaws we do everything and then they kind of got the feet out underneath of us which I to this point I still don't understand there's a lot of politics and a lot a lot of different things but I think for us to keep coming
and showing you know I I don't know if some people leave because of that reason the EDA uh they say there's just nothing going on I spent time here we chat we go home I guess I would like to see something in 26 to really have the city council we
have no budget we have no money you don't need a treasure because you have nothing but they want something. Well, you don't get nothing for, you know, you it cost money to do things. So, I just would hope that this year that whether it's some grant or whatever, we
can really start to maybe look at some lots or maybe look at something and become something cuz what I heard from her earlier EDA, you know, I've helped all these other communities start something, grow, that's why they're there. It's important and I guess I just want to feel that
we're seen as a asset to the city of Oronoko, not just somebody that meets every >> last Tuesday of the month to say hi to everybody and and kick a brand around. So that's just my thought process as I time is valuable for everybody, but you
know really to do something not blame anybody or anything, but I would just like to see us be able to do something to get a project. the King I thought the King project when she come talk to us that night time >> the way she talked I just you know you
said tonight it's like it's pretty quiet but I would say they come that night I thought boy here you know we're out we're on a good start they're talking about development of what she wants and everything else that's a huge piece of property for the city I would only hope that someone if she doesn't want to do
something with it that someone would purchase it from her and do something with it because where the property lies right now. In my opinion, that is the hugest piece of property, the most prime real estate in Orrooco is
that right up there. And if she's going to sit on it and we're going to watch corn come up every and beans every other year. It's really not doing anything for the city of Oronoko. So, someone should look at it say, you know, a reasonable price, what would it take to buy it from you to
do something with it? I just just my thought is is that uh if you did that I take a look across the street where you talked about the other thing you start seeing development there I think the town would light on fire but you're going to have to get something
>> well I think we've demonstrated the commercial people that have come out here I think is good by Casey so that's that's a step in the right direction that wasn't here a year ago so I think there's been a lot of changes and I think that we're >> and your your gas station up there. I
have no idea where that's headed. >> They got no fuel. They got they got nothing. I know which direction that cuz as far as I knew, they own the one on 37th Street, too. It was the same. >> Yeah, they own four >> or whatever. And this one appears, they got nothing there. >> You know, I don't think they have any
fuel because they got their sign on. So, that's another piece of prime real estate that's going >> this kind of a boat anchor. And one other question, what is what is ever out here on the north side of town of that property out there? Is
does the reservation of the Indians of Donald Redwing still own that property or it never come through? >> Oh, no. It's just it's they still own it and it takes >> multiple years to get the sovereign trust through the legisl through the federal. >> Okay. just so they haven't got the
trust. But I was someone said that they someone else had bought it back from and I said I didn't know that. >> Okay. >> No, it still belongs to the next prairie island. Okay. >> It just take years to take >> but this property right up here as far as I I mean that right there if that
would take off for oral. It'd be huge for >> we'll find in March, you know, but >> everything >> one thing March >> is their deadline >> 25th her deadline to make her decision on what she's going to do. >> And that's been something we've offered
to her back in November 2024, >> but she just refuses to sign up for wants the city do a whole bunch of work. We we don't do that. It's not legal. We can't do it. But she just is stubborn. Is that something we could help? The EDA
could help her do anything to move that. >> No, we're not. >> I don't know that you even want to get involved with it. >> Okay. I didn't know. I just >> We're not talking to her. She can talk to us when she's ready, but >> Okay. Well, that's I don't know. That's always >> No, it's it's in her bullet works.
>> Um Rebecca put together this 2025 action plan. You may want to take a look at that too or everybody can >> uh just to get ideas of what we're looking at. You know, some of these things we did do and some of the
things we haven't done, but uh they're all part of this study and trails and I think one option that we continue to talk to businesses from your perspective continuing that
interaction. That's what we said. And putting it together in a database for then on the website the information. >> Yeah. We can have a little support local tab on the website. Have
>> a list of everybody that's here in town offer services. >> Yeah. >> Well, so we'll bring those to the next meeting. I'll make a motion to adjurnn. >> I'll second. Sounds good.
>> You like I could send this 2025 action plan out to >> I've got it. You got it. >> Yeah. >> So I can Yeah, you can send it out to members if you want. >> No, >> with the minutes same bylaw we have
>> I got them too, but I wrote on that. So, no one. >> All right. >> I just got a vote. >> Good. >> All right. Well, thanks. >> Well, I'm going to put a plug out there on the website or local community for a member.
See what happens. >> Yeah. I All those in favor of all in favor say I. Hey.