okay so can you Well I guess we'll start over so I'm Katie Dudley we have Lance Ryland Kevin Justin and Rury and then Ryan can you show our audience quick then we have
Don on Zoom thank you for joining us Don all right oh I guess I can look at that screen you got it K all right perfect
okay are you finding the You're not hearing me I don't think c Can you show them can you flip the camera i don't think you heard me that's what's going on okay all right so we have some visitors today i'm very happy to see you
guys here so we have Adam Brace Kane it's Dolan with a D Lee Bergam and Joy Bzinger in the back so it's awesome to have you here today thank you all right so since I came for my other job I don't
have an agenda with me but I can look on yours or you have an extra one i'm here to say this is my stuff for most perfect well that's perfect i'm glad I'm glad you're doing that that makes this so much nicer thank you Justin
okay so as I put in the agenda would anyone like to take over being chair which means getting the agenda together email reminders um I kind of text message everybody to remind them to come um so
something that you can think about and tell me if you'd like to do it but you all look at me with smiles like that's funny been there some that too that too so um it is helping me tremendously with Justin doing the notes and the minutes
um and that way I can still do all this organizing of stuff so okay so um our first guest that we have here uh let's see I have a friendly Oronoko area board members presenting
about the park audits that were discussed with Dave Beal but guess what i already skipped something so we have March 3rd minutes here um has anyone been able I read it once
um does anyone have anything that needs to be switched changed on here um Dylan I can get these available to you later okay um all right
so do these look good i I make a motion to approve the March minutes justin probably doesn't want to second because he wrote them but here we'll second them okay all right
all those in favor say I i oppose same sign all right motion carries so we can approve those minutes we can check that off the agenda here uh does anyone have anything to add to the agenda today
i have one just for a FYI um just to talk about um planning in the future in relation to projects budgets vision being able to set up different committees for success over the next couple of years so we'll
have some planning sessions um with city council to make sure that we're thinking about what we're going to do in the next 1 three five 10 years i know we're talking about that a little bit today but having a larger conversation with all committees so some planning for the
future um will be happening in the next couple of months nice so are people going to be getting an invitations to that or something for that yep we'll set up some individual kind of sessions yep thanks
so um Oh my gosh i'll just be official um Kevin would you like this isn't official if I'm asking people to make a motion would you like to make a motion to vote the agenda approve it approve the agenda
i'll second it all those in favor say I i pull the same sign okay I'm getting the hang of this lance all right so today we have guests from the age friendly orono area board
members presenting about the park audit and Joy are you going to be the one presenting i will it might be um lengthy so I'm wondering if Adam wants to go first ah or king too yes yes all right
so Adam would you like to discuss um the fire department requesting prescribed burning i know let's look at all official i like Yeah we're going to be official so um so I'm Adam Braise do I need to say my address 545 Lane Southwest can you spell
your last name rays b R A S E also a lum of the parks committee yes yes many years ago um but uh but here tonight I'm representing or local fire department uh there was a proposal that
I think came forward at your last meeting and it sounds like there were a few questions on it i think I may have started that discussion um and the the drive behind that has really been uh the the park land that the city acquired
kind of in Riverwood Hills to the be to the south of the trail in there which had been septic fields and whatnot uh over the years there's a lot of dry fuels in there and so on my daily walking path as I'm walking along there
on one of the red flag days um notice like this could be interesting if something were to happen in that space and brought up the idea that it may be worthy to consider now that the city owns that property a controlled burn in that space
um I know there are questions about that i think that it would need to be planned and you need to planned well um we've certainly talked about that we were talking about when we were sitting here how we would execute something like that um we're getting probably to the point
where it may be too late at this point with green up uh we'd have to see it would have to happen relatively soon if it is going to happen in the spring um could be something potentially in the fall as well or next spring to look at if there's interest in it but I do think
that some of the the dry fuel control in that space would be good to look at you'd want to preserve the trees the cedar trees that you have there those could probably burn pretty easily but um but probably what we would do is we
would work from the east side and kind of take small chunks and and go along um so I'm happy to answer any questions about that uh that may have come up yeah it came here and I think we were thinking it was just a training exercise
but it sounds like it's bigger bigger than that and probably more preventative than I think the tricky part about the layout there is you'd want to do we'd want to do it the timing is tricky because you'd want to do it on a day where you either have an easterly wind or a northerly
wind so we don't end up blowing smoke into the neighborhood but all we ideally want that to blow south or to the west um north winds are pretty common east winds less so um are are the paths good
enough fire break to to provide Yeah I think Well you've got the paths and then you've also got for the most part you've got land okay on the other side of that with a with a small section i guess it'd be in the northwest corner of that which we'd have to to keep an eye on but it
would give us a nice fire break there's also a hydrant like right there um and there would be it would be fairly easy to get equipment in and out of there that's true obviously if it's controlled it's a you know a lot lower risk than if there was something that that was well
and you start a back burn to to get black around everything that before you light a head fire yeah that's where I That's where I think you'd want to start that on the east side um and give yourself some space there it's really the the homes on kind of Sunny View Lane
on the culdeac there would be the ones that you'd want to have the protection would it be a one day thing oh yeah it' be a 12 12 minute thing probably depending upon I mean you'd have the tree protection in there and you'd want to move slowly so takes you longer to
set up than it takes to burn so what hi this is Don i'm just asking what is it who is the crew are they volunteer crew or what what who is the crew on this yeah it be it'd be the Orin Oak Fire Department so okay
do you have do you have to have it a plan approved by because they we used to do when I worked for the DNR we used to have to approve prescribed burn plans but I don't know if the city is required to to do that or not
okay and what kind of notice do we have to give land owners because that was always something too how to do that you want to approve it I think we so you'd want to give them a heads up that it may occur but we don't necessarily know the diet Yeah yeah i mean the po the point is that you
you're trying to prevent as much smoke getting into homes as possible that that's always when I suggested burning at Garden Park that was always an issue down there because you never if if you get a way a southeast or
southwest wind it blows right into the houses so it's a problem yeah you'd have to you'd have to time it and hope for a good forecast is that something you'd be thinking about as a a weekday project as opposed to weekend or depend on would depend on
the weather is right you know for us for volunteers it would either be an evening or a weekend so what I would I'm going to try to look some things up but um I would be in
agreement to bring it to council as a parks recommended activity to and then figure out all the details in between um so I guess I'm making a motion to bring it to city council to you know figure out all the things
that have to happen what's that well I was just wanting to make sure was is it something that more to the fire department or do we need to bring it to the city i'm just uh guess what i'm wide open city i'm looking at Kane
kane hi you how what are we defining these previous drain fields as they might not even be parks necessarily or they're property of the city so then parks ends up public works ends up taking care of city property so yeah
we'll have to maintain it it's you know it's green space it's not maintainable you know a prescribed burn it is a way of maintenance you know it's a way to reduce the the fire load uh you know there's there's other ways to do it
you know you can mow mowing's a way to keep that down this is kind of uncharted land for me i I know the layout i've seen some of it but largely I think not a lot of people really know what's even out there
it's so as far as like you know Lance brought up like the mode paths uh those can create kind of a a barrier for the fire and and Adam and I were talking about this maybe just doing a portion of it you know go go
just cut it into like uh thirds or something let's just do a a mode path and and maybe we burn up to that mode path and if it's going good maybe we jump onto portions two and three and uh my experience with these prescribed
burns are plan plan plan worry worry worry and then a thunderstorm happens and there's no burns so it's a lot of planning it's just and and and you need to have the availability and the understanding to be able to be flexible
so so go when it's when the time is right when the time's right yep and like I said we're probably getting it's probably getting touch and go at this point we have a lot of cool season grasses that Yeah maybe it's something we can work on in next spring or maybe
maybe we get eyes on it here this this mowing season and we we mow some perimeters and if we have if we have a winter like this last winter and the winter before where there's no snow I mean shoot you could burn in January for heaven's sake sure there were a lot of fire departments that were busy in
January i'm sure there were yeah because there was red flag warnings through through every month this this last winter yeah ryland do we need city council approval if we think this is the right path forward
i'm sorry do we need city council approval if we think this is the right path forward to get them to activate i mean if we can do it quickly they could even do it this year i I would s I think I it seems kind of late to burn based on what Adam's saying but I do think there's a possibility for Mo i think we
should have um a standax take out the boundaries where the it's on drawings and obviously they know where they're at so I think it'd be good to stake out exactly where these drain fields are we have a general idea of the grass but um yes I think we need council approval
okay it's it's a recommendation from the parks to the council and mainly parks because city land turns into public works which then as a committee here you're at least getting direction from a committee to go to
council with and I think that's helpful so um doesn't seem like you need approval but I mean just in for FYI for that or could that be that good enough public works it is city
property it's not designated park yet either right so it's really a council decision but public works could pose something to council because then can that be considered you're telling the neighbors probably not enough no I think
we'd want to do notifications definitely something in the mail definitely want to knock on doors knock on doors whatever you do that ahead of time you do that weeks ahead of time and and just get people aware of what's going to happen and but does that mean you have to wait to make that letter until after
council or can you make a letter that says we are proposing to burn this and it's going to happen maybe i'm just thinking if you I mean council's in a couple weeks so if you have a week now that we could activate i'm just I would hate to be the bottleneck from a
approval perspective but well I would say we won't do it without support um so whatever that looks like I mean I think if there is general support we'd probably take the next step in planning to see okay even what obstacles there might be
out there i mean I know the drain field pipes were removed but correct yep we found gates and stuff laying around out there so we'd want to know that before we get into I think too the the DNR we probably should check with the DNR because I know
they they were involved with uh they're involved with prescribed burdens i just know that I don't know to what degree i know like Riverland the community college they do a they offer this as a service I think where they actually have like some of their
instructors who have done this before but it takes I think it takes a pretty decent plan well approved plan and there there's form there's forms available that you can use to to plan so that you can lay out the the weather conditions and the wind directions and all that
stuff ahead of time so that you've got something on paper that everybody knows about and follows right it wasn't just a group of firefighters saying "Yeah go for it." Yeah I've done that that doesn't work all right well I found I found a pretty
good resource here from the DNR giving some direction um learn local burning regulations so I don't know that we're really aware of our local burning regulations right now so that would just
be is that something someone from the burn so you guys are issuing the burn permits okay okay is that online probably or is that Yeah it's online online oh yeah on there okay so Ryland are you looking at the
city of Oronoko what website are you looking for process okay okay yeah so I mean are you guys good to continue to work on that figuring all the details
out yeah if there's support to to move forward yeah yeah okay burning is good yeah habitat that's for sure i still have my burn clothes if you need some help
but you haven't passed any fitness test i have not passed any fitness or fire knowledge in the last 20 years how did that happen six anyway okay so I make a motion to bring this to council and um
recommend that you guys move on or continue with this thank you i'll second awesome all right all those in favor say I all right thank you Adam it's nice to see you yeah it's good seeing you
all right um Kane yeah did you have something you wanted to visit with us specifically you know last meeting you guys requested that I that I attend a meeting and I'm fine with that i can do that yay it's wonderful to see you and I think everyone may have gotten this list
but these are some things that we've been working on or thinking about or you got one yep thank you you got one of these lee you need one here
jason Adam Joel you got one yeah you better you better read it yeah so anyway these are just some topics that that being that that we do take care of the parks and the park system these are things that are on our mind
so I guess I'm just here to bring them to your guys's attention maybe there's some keepers maybe there's some losers and let's just whittle this list down and say these are
not parks or these are not public works or cuz guess what do you even have the drain fields on here yet you have one of them or all of them vacant land or all of the drain fields on or isn't the
Riverwood Hills one on here probably not on there okay and the vacant land wow right like that can add up especially if you're wanting to mow it yes it can and that was brought up by the city council last
year of of how much we are mowing and what we're doing and what we're not doing and and the city council decided it would be uh a a time to discuss what we do and what we don't do so uh prioritize i'm I'm still waiting for
that conversation to take place but I figured this would be a good starting point parks committee to facilitate that conversation or that uh recommendation to council what we should mow what we shouldn't mow because if you're don't if you do
not mow them and we actually get rain then that's when there's trouble but if we don't have a lot of rain then the grass doesn't get too tall necessarily does it just looks unkempt sure sure does right um but then if you talk
about River Park man there's so much sand over there that there's hardly any grass and I'm sorry that's not on this list but River Park is pretty big and and the grass really doesn't like to grow there so it's a whole another story so I mean I think that would be
something to consider for some of these as to which ones but I think all of these do have good grass growing environments is that accurate yeah it's these are just they take up time mowing so
uh I don't know if this is the conversation that starts the idea of selling some of this land right we've been hanging on these lots forever are we ever going to do anything are we just going to keep mowing them i mean it's ridiculous if we just mow something to
to mow it right but we have to because we have ordinance and we have to keep up with the neighborhoods and Right so maybe this is right i have a question i know um and I brought this up before it's the place I mean like the mowing
for the purpose is either for like fire safety and or aesthetics so andor sports or people you know enjoying the land so it seems like there's the choice of um and if you're
wondering what this orange thing is my my cat wants to hug right now so I legally I can't tell him no but anyway um the you know I I'm surprised we don't really have a plan that a lot of places are putting in native plants or native
grasses which can look very if you put in like one species of um Indian grass it can be very pretty and needs to be born like once every four or five years or mowed and then you don't need to mow it and it's also really good for the wildlife and is a carbon a carbon
storage it it the roots store carbon so I I guess to to to put the to put the facets on mo not mo can't we change the facets to what is the purpose of the land and if it sort of has no human purpose to turn it into like wildlife
habitat which which and then make it that require less maintenance i mean they would probably be prescribed burning every four or five years but then at least it's it's being used as habitat and it will look pretty i um
depending on what species are put in are are the first four on that list A B C and D are those lots that are building bit big well I know the Yeah are they big enough to build on
uh you know that's a good question you know I mean what's the city doing holding the city's looking at their minimum square footage for lot size right now and that's been going on for a year better so you know they might be
buildable someday yeah because I mean it seems sound negative but I mean if it does Gold Rush really need those properties for for setup well and I've been I've been told Gold Rush is not a city uh I understand that but but it's still we the city is still saving that
land for gold rush lance Lance I I'm with you these are these are some Why do we Yeah it's those are tough conversations that are be up my pay grades and and so I'm I'm bringing this to this committee because I don't know what other committee to bring it to exactly right i need I need some sort of
driver to go to the council and say this is the recommendation now council doesn't have to follow that recommendation we all understand that but well maybe we just need subcommittee here to study this and look at those
some of those properties and say well it's just silly to mow this or you know maybe we should turn it and I think it it goes back to okay determining like I think before we decide mow mow what's the purpose of the land and you know it
could it maybe the city wants to hold it in reserve um which is fine but I think if we let we um sort of do a a a brief matrix of land and its purpose and then that drives what is mowed and what's not mowed it seems to me that Oronokco has
more parkland per capita than most towns so and we could officially call it a cost benefit ratio there you go of keeping this as city land versus not having it in the city
whatchamacallit banks or whatever do you know dimensions of those these properties Kane i because again I don't know I mean if we're going to sell it and it's too small to build no one's going to buy it so sure and and maybe I'm confused Kane
are you talking about only those lots that may be for sale eventually or are you talking about all of the parks i'm just talking about all these green spaces that aren't a park you know they're Oh okay not really being utilized for for anything but
were the first two are lots that are big enough that had buildings on them in in previous years i mean maybe long longer ago than than most people remember in this committee but but there were houses on them before the first one they use
that for gold rush I mean they set up on right and that and that's a conversation that needs to be had is maybe gold rush can pay for why why do we keep maintaining these lots for one weekend out of the year like like a lot of things in this city it's not just parkland it's it's like the fire
department why do we store a hundred chairs and tables and fridges and pancake ovens for one weekend out of the year you know it's like it's just the way it's been right so so I guess what I'm saying is there's there's vacant land here there's vacant
green spaces but we could do something with them right we could do a a dog park a a veterans memorial we could do a a splash pad we could do pickle ball courts we could if these if these lots we want to keep them let's let's do
something with them unless we want to just keep looking at empty lots right i mean like I said I I just need this committee to to look into this a little more and and just start the conversation with some of this stuff you know like River Park drainfield there's nine acres
there Ryland somewhere around that so that's nine lots if we want to sell lots 100,000 a piece we could fund something right well I can tell you right now I just it's just my opinion but that that goes with the people that live there might
have a different one but absolutely I don't believe I don't believe that that drain field needs to be a park we I mean we've got enough parks we've got Orcle Park down by the river was a beautiful park and we got other parks up and around
here so I've heard that you know possible making that a park and I thought boy I just think that that's just more parkland than we really need but that you know and I'm but I don't live there and I can understand where other people may have may have some
objection or whatever but I I I don't that's just a just an idea you know and that would if if if if the park if the park committee doesn't want it doesn't need it then I think it just goes straight to council and council needs to make a decision on what they're going to
do with that property for sure and that's just my my the first thing it says yeah carry on Kevin no that's just my opinion so I but I'm just bringing that trying to move something so but that's a that's a big p parcel of land so the the trouble is is converting a
I'm reading it right here but converting a drain field to a home site is generally not recommended due due to the risk of soil contamination potential health hazards from wastewater it's crucial to understand all these different issues right so but maybe it's worth looking into has
that been done before somewhere else you know have you heard of that being done before you have okay all right so it's just a matter of doing it the right way of course too um but as a parks Well I mean who do you really need to get
permission from to take that fence down well I you know and that goes back to do I need the parks committee to get permission to to mow and maintain parks i mean I'm I'm kind of hired under another set of you know why I was hired why we have this department do I really
need like an oversight committee to to say mow don't mow or you know what I'm saying i it I want to know what our what our what everyone's roles are here so so when somebody comes to me and says Kane why do you buy this mower and why do you
waste all this time on the mower well because it's part of my job it's part of what we do here at the city and I I need everyone's understanding to say "Wait a minute payne and the crew take care of 80 acres of land that yeah we need these mowers yeah we we we we need this budget
right we need this manpower and I need that support." So I'm not getting you know you feel micromanaged well when it comes to budgets Well yeah okay right people are saying "Well why do you mow that or why do you mow that
or why do you need that mower why do you need this?" Well these are the reasons so um Don here again I guess I'm I feel like as a you know volunteer board member I'm comfortable talking about like parks and recreation i don't know
that I'm qualified to talk about other city land i mean you know um I I don't know and I don't know how what other people I we're a parks committee i don't know that we're a public land committee so I mean but Kane I realize that doesn't help you out but I don't want to be a
volunteer that's getting stretched and stretched to you know go beyond parks to the city that's not that's not my role here right right and and Don to to your point I think parks and trails this committee I I look to you guys as the organizers the the people putting some
of these policies and planning you know I look to you guys as as the one for yeah let's do a pickle ball court let's let's not do ice rink let's you know and I want to say nonp parkland or
non-trails is kind of like I'll say above my pay grade sure i think though to looking at this list right again to your point Kane like maybe we use this land for something else really the only thing would be a splash pad or a pickle ball or a
veterans memorial otherwise you couldn't use any of that land or anything else on this list and and these are just some of our thoughts in public works you know we're not the most creative either right but I'm sure if you put it out there you could come
up with 20 ideas for a a piece of property you know whether it be a dog park or a veterans memorial or Can I ask if it's if it's appropriate for the parks committee to to make some assessment or is that that's really not our job
to do that i think we I think we should I think we should survey our residents to see what they would like and depending on what we get maybe we consider using some of that land for outdoor
recreation spaces but I again with the couple things on here I don't know if that's all-encompassing or if people would have a a better idea and then we could fit based on what we have um because some of
these are probably smaller than others and like the one by the Alamo right that wouldn't be a great spot for a splash pad or a pickle ball because you're up on a slope so you'd have to kind of fit it to the area
too what What about Three Willows three Willows yep it's along Stoopes Cove yep okay people can park on the street and walk down that i I guess you can park on a city street yep and you can walk on city
land and you can walk on city land yes and it's all But then it comes to Is it city land in where the lake bed used to be yes yep right
okay all right does anyone have So um Oh yeah i see the splash pad though so the main thing that that I'm most excited about trying to figure out is trying to get like a maybe a
combination and we can go around the room if you guys are ready to say something about this list but um I've said it for a few times but then I I say it once a month and then I go home and I forget about it until the next meeting
but um basketball court pickle ball court or something at Memorial Park or even Riverwood Hills and maybe those would be more appropriate things for drainfield conversion you know then you wouldn't be mowing it um and you wouldn't be putting someone's house on
it so but I don't know along that type of soil would need to settle before you put cement on it but it probably doesn't matter i I think those are I think those are minor hurdles along the way you know I
if there if there's a plan to put a basketball court on a drain field let's cross that path with our engineering department right yeah i I think we can do that when the time comes but until that that idea is you
know decided Katie would we be then re perhaps recommending I mean um that the be that the land becomes parkland so that it could become a recreational area i don't know that might be a lot
so then I I guess I'm uncomfortable why the park committee is commenting on land we we don't want or we don't have an interest in i think we have our you know we have four major parks that that we are concerned with
and plus the plus the one that you call the oaks that's that's been a thorn and we've we've talked about that for 20 years absolutely and nothing is you know it's still the same thing as it was 20 years ago y and nobody likes to mow it because it's kind of wet and and so I
mean it's I think it's a nice piece of ground but I don't know what to do with it that's right next to it all city right there where that farmhouse is there's a small section there that uh Third Avenue and 12 township yep not that it matters a lot
but yeah that makes a difference i don't know anyway the list of two through 20 I mean we certainly can make make have our opinions about that because those are things that really are part of park's purview yeah park activities park
amenities absolutely so how about this how about the city administrator myself work on these vacant lots and come back to council or parks or
I think it's council because I I think Lance you're right on you know you you guys are parks and I don't know future parks amenities activities i don't feel qualified to to be thinking about what you do with vacant land that the city actually owns
okay yeah the clers and the hers and the Yeah those are lambs that that are right there in the neighborhood that Right yeah I think they'd leave that and like I agree with what uh he said about through the 20
okay i would say though if we have the ambition to do a splash pad or or a basketball or pickle ball or whatever on here then I think you bring it to council and say "Here's our need here's our size that we'd like here's what it's going to cost oh by the way we have a
piece of land that we can build on yeah those are budget issues that that need to be addressed that's true and I think it goes back to what's our 1 three five 10year plan too because some of these are probably more expensive than others so if we keep the land
knowing that you know in five years it will be a really nice splash pad or pickle ball or whatever it is um we can plan for that too i just wrote down one to 35 year plan 1 to 35 yeah you can do 35 i don't plan to
be here oh my gosh joy would you like to add something i I think that when we talk about the park audit that I'll be talking about I think some of those questions about should you do a splash
pad should you do a pickle ball court could maybe be answered through the park audit and maybe you can find room on existing parks rather than looking at new land that the city owns so I think
it's something you kind of work on this maybe along with the park audit i like it do you do outreach to community members in that audit the park audit yeah I'll go into all of
that okay when when you're I should have waited till the end joy should be talking joy should be talking before me because No I I think she's spot on though that audit is going to pinpoint where these amenities and things could
be added and so no are you take it away Joy your turn Joy you doing okay and then I know that I emailed Katie but just in case there's been some changes
some good changes all right that Thank you Kate i'll stick her out i'll stick around for a little bit all right hey do you want you gave me more than one oh looks like your ink's getting low on your
And Katie can you send me a copy if possible do you see that other one i did i think your ink is so
um last time we were here we talked um about the age friendly grant that Mstead County received and you asked um age friendly group to kind of help you through this so three members of Age
Friendly are here Kevin Ryland and myself so we're here helping you yay team so originally when we heard about the park audit grant we thought it was $900 and we can use that for um getting
people to come in for volunteers to get that set up just today I heard from Dave Beal that it's $900 per park so we have uh $2,700 to work with and part of that
is uh like you'll see here like the refreshments water snacks maybe fruit um and then
also we received I think everybody got a copy of the park audit last time um so the printing a printing cost of that and then whatever is left after that then it can be used for staff time and so staff
time could be going with um say Joel Palin having them put together something say the park audit came back and said "Hey you know it'd be really good to have a splash pad how much would it cost for you to kind of tell us how much a
splash pad would be how many hours?" Or a pickle ball court or paving so we would have oh let me see about $2500 to use for staff time i did speak with Joe
Palin and um originally when we had just the $900 budget and he thought maybe for $700 he could come up with maybe how much a pickle ball pouring would cost not the specifics that you would have to do if you were going to actually build
it but okay you would need this material that material this would be the size and this part would work for that so that's where I think that would be really beneficial for the city and for the parks to say in your plan one three five
years this is how much money you want to budget this is a priority so what my thought is what we would want to start is to select the three parks uh talking with age friendly um
this is kind of down about the last third of the page where start uh speaking with the age friendly committee we thought originally just two parks so without one on the east one on the west side but probably because on
the uh east side you have the two parks or park and then river park you would maybe want two parks on the east side and one on the west side and maybe because it's a larger park maybe
Riverwood Hills Park just a thought on that so that's where you want to do is your committee would want to select three parks that you would like to have people come in and kind of assess it what's the good thing about a park uh
what are things that you see that could be improvements what are things that are stopping people from using the park as far as are people not able to drive there is it not accessible is it for people of mobility issues they can't use
it because the ground's unlevel unsafe uh so those are some things that we would like to have uh the park audit come back with um and then I think the next thing once you've selected the parks select a date with an alternative
date to have that done um do you want on a Saturday do you want out in the evening do you want on a Sunday afternoon those are some discussions um and then you would want to advertise for your volunteers use your Facebook pages use
the city page use the city newsletter i think the goal would be really wonderful if you had 12 people at each park um I think you could probably operate if you had six but 12 would be wonderful to have
um and then once you kind of have an idea of how many people are going to be involved in the audits then you could get the supplies um you would want to have like pens or pencils clipboards
because the clipboard's going to make it a lot easier when they go through you're going to have the printing costs either done someplace else or done inhouse um then you would uh request maybe your
staff time to have them measure the parks that you're looking at and see where there's open space and how large the actual parks are and then actually set up the audit date have a couple of people at each park that would
be your supervisors to kind of come to people would say "Well what do I do now how do I do this you'd have people to answer the questions and then after the park audit and just gather their sheets and then talk with at the committees
kind of review their responses and then decide how do you want to proceed now that you've got their information how do you want staff time used so those are just some of my thoughts the committee's thoughts that we wanted
to share with you so you said Riverwood Oronco and what was the other one for suggestion what was your what were your three parks you said Riverwood Oronco and what was the other one river
Park yeah River Park Riverwood and Orco those were some thoughts but it's up to the parks committee to really decide which parts you would want to Okay um concentrate on
but I I thought it was really great i thought we had $900 to work copied his email like I'm keeping that one right in front of me um as far as how to be reimbursed uh he said there's really not a
procedure they haven't really worked this before so we're thinking because age friendly I think we have $100 on our budget or $100 in our checkbook we would like to not have to be the ones that do
the reimbur or to purchase the stuff like if the city could purchase it through Amazon or have it delivered or something like that then you would submit that invoice off to the county and then the county would reimburse and
then if we use staff time you would keep track of your staff time and then submit that billing um I even spoke with Kane and asked him um the previous thing that he put together about the parks about
the needs how much time has he already spent i would think that could be reimburseable so we could get that you know we could see how close we are to that
$2,700 and if we need to make up time then we could say "Hey how much time did you spend on that game?" So so I guess the first thing would be because we're approaching
summer do you want to set up a time and do you want to select the three parts and go from there well I would make a motion to do those three parts you mentioned and what I'm concerned with is is
finding enough people on the same day that's what I'm worried about if you do the three parks the same day and that's that's what was encouraged by Dave Beal was to do them all on the same day you know I think it's pretty open
he's not going to micromanage how we're going to do this so it you know perhaps you could do two separate days and have everybody gather here and see how many volunteers you get
and then divide it up from there that could be a possibility because the um or you you have seven altogether on the board yes great okay better and we're always looking we're we're starting to
gather more people who are just not board members so we have two additional Katie and one other woman Angela who lives in township so um we're always looking for help yeah no kidding right would that be Angela Smith
what's her last name oh that's different than the other one okay great so I don't Did you have a motion about the three parts that you need yes but I'm thinking since we send everything to
council are we going to be asking council to be okay to be the fiscal agent for this is that what we would call it i think you would want to right i would think that because you're going to ask them to run the invoices through
the city first you would want to make sure that you had their approval so that when they see the bills coming and going um they would say "Oh got it no one can do that in one motion." You know perhaps you might want to just do a couple
couple different separate okay so I make a motion to do the three parts that you mentioned do audits of those this summer i'll second them all right fantastic all those in favor say I i i
okay motion carries all right and then I think we should do the fiscal agent part thing too right away is it all right if I make that motion too because keep things going so I make a motion to um ask the
city of Oruronokco to be our fiscal agent for this project second all right all those in favor say I i oppose same sign right motion carries fantastic
okay um does it So does anyone have anything further we'd like to discuss about this tonight i think we should find a day start to advertise we do a couple just in case we do have a
a rain so we'd want to make sure that you three are here that might be the hard part i know that's why I'm wondering if it I mean but let's be hopeful that we could you know play two different days and see the
weather will it take cute you know I don't know if it would take an hour okay i've never done a park audit our parks aren't huge but I would think it would be 15 minutes of instructions and then probably uh you know a half an
hour 45 minutes then to have them walk through the park um the other the other thing could be is you could almost see what it's like if you do an online
response too you could almost set the date but then also show what a park audit is say on Facebook or on different um media and then you could ask people if they would be willing to just
sometime go look at the park review it and and get that information back plus then you could also have people the day of the audit just some thoughts what do you think about that do you think people would do that i mean I don't know i
don't know it doesn't always happen that way it might be easier if we said do it between this date and that date then one budget-wise you wouldn't have to do any of that because they would do it on their own and then if you don't get a great response then you
could have like a day of doing it um Right right we could set up like you said one day see how good of a response you get how many people you actually get and then go from there i don't know that
you're going to have 12 that's just kind of a a pipe dream but Right well and I like that idea of a date range like say in the month of June we are doing park audits and if you have any recommendations King do you get many
park suggestion emails i know I have one from Tara Blumpster regarding the pickle ball court at River Park but do you ever get something that would I mean I would that would go towards this park ideas
and things like that or not really not too much not too much mostly just Lance i love it that's good he has his own little inbox right did you see this Kane right i like that i think we should do it sooner than later especially if we're starting to think about what's our plan
for next year and three years right because these will give us the insights of maybe what's not on this list to think about where we need to spend our time you're thinking May maybe I don't think I don't think
there's anything wrong with that i think if we if we advertise right and give them the instructions and say do it now until May 10th or whatever and see what we get and then and we won't be charging anything and we won't be
spending any money until after city council so the the actual in-person thing would have to be after city council approves or if you get enough responses do you need an inerson one
yes maybe why i don't know just to make it more official I guess i don't know i think you bring your findings back to city council but if you get a good response of people going out there for their lunch hour to do evaluations you
wouldn't have to you wouldn't have to do any of this i don't know if we don't spend any of this then that 2700 would go to engineering working it up okay right and you could have um a time where an
open house with your park and then you could have some spending of snacks or something so you could show Dave Beal that we we did spend a little bit on that stuff um but but yeah but yes you could start
publicizing now there wouldn't be a cost i don't know that you would need to have um it go to city council to do that online work i don't think you would have to to expand the other things yes i
don't think you would have to and so April's already done for city council so May would be your next city council meeting but if Yeah you want to pick June or a date to
have it finished and then a date for in person if we need one yeah and and if we have like this wonderful great you know everybody responds and we have all these good responses then you can always have
that day still to tell talk to people about what's going on or do a final audit so I'm not available June 7th okay i'm not available the 14th
and are we looking at Saturdays right now oh I'm sorry yes if it's a Saturday um the 4th through the 7th I'm not available okay so Saturdays in June that's what you're thinking saturdays or
if you want to do evening one too what's that the 14th is up for me okay so we might be aiming for June 21 21 for you uh yeah that weekend we could come back in with Chester we're not gonna make you
go back well we're not a big deal because I mean because we're we're talking almost two months i propose that we try getting volunteers to do it on their free time see what response we have revisit it our next park and trails
to find a a day if we get no responses you could do it I'm I'm propose a weekday evening because you know it stays light out till 8:00 y so we could do that and we could and
we could make that date in May so we can see what kind of responses we're getting until May and Joy are you willing to do or somebody in your committee willing to do the promoting of this and and then asking Jason to put it on our city stuff
i can um I can do it and and if I you know if you want a really fancy looking thing then I can you know research someone to help us out i'm thinking Dana so I know I think she would have a great time with that so
I can do something like that um do you know if the city's putting out a newsletter soon uh it hasn't been talked but we have new staff starting tomorrow and next week so they'll be doing a lot of indoctrination so the newsletter would probably it's
probably a summer newsletter versus a spring so it would be after May probably probably in June May you know good question for Jason okay i was thinking we could do something use some of the money for mailing too but I
don't know if that's an effective use of mailing so could try online and then did you say that you would want to set up a day during May to also do in person or
do you want to just first see how this goes yeah when when we come back to our next parks meeting we can see how the responses have been and then we could pick the date um during the week or something you want
to set like a deadline for them to give the responses back now I know you meet May 5th i don't know if that's going to be enough time to do a response we do something before Memorial Day or something or May 20th you're going to do
like say May 16th is a Friday and then the week May 16th what my birthday sure is that your birthday yeah we can do May 16th and mine's a couple days before then so I can do that i'll put something
together i'll put it on the citizens page um I will maybe email something to Jason to see if he could put it on the Oronogo city page because that's coming from a committee i think that should be
good yes um and then uh if you're on the city the community page not the citizens page community page if you can copy it or share it off that would be good your own personal pages would be
good and then um we can see what kind of response we're we're getting okay any other comments at all oh no thank you very much Jo appreciate that glad that we welcome we're all
working working hard you know thanks yeah thank you Joy and I won't tell your husband that you're gonna help advertise just kidding all right uh what do we have next on here we
have Ryland do you have some information for us um I'll give you an update okay great so the Zumbrell River Regional Water Trail um right now we have our the guiding committee is meeting every two
weeks that's made up of myself and two people from SC engineering Brad Oatsby who's a uh consulting firm for he does a lot of aqua river looking for clams and snails but he has a lot of experience with
water trails rivers especially uh and then we have Carllin Ziggler who's the um from the Mate County Soil and Water Conservation Board and um one more person one two three four five and Jason
he's on the board too so that's on the guiding committee we meet every two weeks we recently had a stakeholders meeting April 3rd and that was there's about 42 people on that list and we had around 15 people and we'll have our next
one the first week in June um so right now we're looking at we've uh se identified 44 different locations throughout the whole wershed and uh we have a it's a very detailed spreadsheet of all the amenities what all these
different points have or not have um and it's located throughout the whole county all four counties at Dodge Olmstead Washaw and Goodiewu um so going forward we'll start um going through those 44 sites and getting input from the
stakeholders and right now we're that's what we have right we have a big list we just need to get it down to ultimately like eight to 10 strategic locations and that's what the Greater Parks Minnesota Trails Commission they want us to put money for once we get our master plan
together because that's our objective here at the end of the year or very end of the year next going into next year to have a master plan and a joint powers agreement uh we're having a meeting here with the representatives from the Zumbra wershed partnership um in a couple weeks
and we'll be talking more about uh if there's a possibility of uh the joint powers agreement being under the umbrella of the Zumbra wershed so are you referring to Zumbroa one no Zumbro one wershed or
is there one watershed one plan is a statewide that's statewide okay and of that there's a Zumbrell River watershed yes that encompasses everything that we're looking at and that's not a nonprofit or it's driven by government
somehow must be nonprofit because they get funding from LCCMR and different legacy funds and is it the same Zumber Watershed Partnership from the past or it must be in yes it's just restructured under the M under this oh fantastic umbrella of Minnesota so okay still very
much in play and every we have every county has a soil conservation water board and um so um there's a uh what they call a watershed alliance um committee for the
greater Zumbro what it is it's a it's made up of all the different four counties soil water conservation there's a couple county commissioners on it too and these are the people we're giving a presentation to on May 8th and this is we have to share an update with them and
kind of get their u response back if they like what we're sharing and talking about it prior to that May 8th meeting we're having this other meeting here in a couple weeks uh just to kind of talk through with a couple res representatives we're also having a couple members from the Greater Parks and Minnesota Trails Commission part of
that meeting too because there's several questions that we have regarding funding if um once the master plan is done and we continue on it's a multi-year process of asking funding for all these different amenities for parking lots and signage and restrooms
but we need to make sure that the commission that will be assigning this allocating these funds can come into the watershed um so those are kind of questions that we don't know for sure and so we're kind of laying the groundwork to make sure
we're doing it okay so awesome that's progressing and trying to uh take advantage of what we can learn early so we can plan accordingly going forward so that's the latest there right now we have Port local park Alice Park and
River Park are three parks that we've identified as potential uh sites there's like I said there's a lot of them in Rochester there's Pine Island has a couple of them um some falls
there's I can share that map with you too i'll send that map to you and the spreadsheet you can get an idea of what we're looking at that's you include that in your minutes too so yeah what how many sites have been identified you said there's 44 44 43 or 44 and about
um seven or eight of those are DNR sites and we we cannot have um DNR is not eligible for improvements it's a separate funding source so we cannot add or work with the DNR it's mostly a point of reference for reformation or
information okay or you do select here's the DNR and here's where we could be and here's the next DNR so it's just a reference point so I think that's the latest going on and kind of what we plan to accomplish here by the end of the year okay
um the other option is a minot fence along the highway uh right now it uh the last I heard from Heather at MDOT was that it was going to be a probably a contract going out to a contractor versus men do maintenance doing it but the plan is still to do it
in 2025 so hopefully you'll hear something at the May meeting okay once that happens are they going to be able to take are what's the plan on the jersey walls sitting over there so nobody can
get down there are they going to keep them there how can people access that like on bikes or walk and without others can we Yeah that's a good question and Kane and I have talked about what possibilities are and there's um I think what we're thinking about is the the
type of post come out of the ground you can remove if you want to drive through but you have these steel post or direct embedded but they can be removed easily so you can public works people can nobody can drive through but sure yeah I think that's to get rid of
the jersey barriers yeah okay they may be on the side or something but the point is Yeah that's fine i mean is basically so people can walk or ride a bike whatever they want but other than so they're not stumbling or trying to crawl over the top so the council also
right now we're looking at um the road that goes under the bridges has a lot of sand needs a new layer of rock on it too so that all has to be done here we'll be going out contracts for that so
that was part of the 2024 flood damage that we had sure july early July so Okay we'll be moving forward with So So you the city's responsible or or MDOT's bringing it in or who's bring it in well it's it's our property it's our property
and the one thing we will have to do in the very near future is apply for a permit um official permit from MEDOT the roadway has been agreed to because it was approved by mendot when we did the restoration of all the work the daming but we will need to get a
permit i think it's just formality getting a permit for any other questions otherwise that's amazing thank you thank you thank you all right all right Lee your name's on the agenda
your name's on the agenda yeah did I have to get up there and stand tonight or if you want to but you don't have getting over surgeries it's kind of hard for me to get around a little bit I guess oh are you sure well you probably should move right i should move now and then yeah you need to move got all over
time through all the construction that came through uh oh well Lee welcome um would you like like to introduce yourself and and tell us why you're here today my name is Leo i actually bought Katie's house back in
the fall of That's why your name is familiar fall of 19 so Oh that's awesome we've been there since we moved here from Northfield in 2019 because got a daughter who lives up in Zumbo Falls one of our three kids wanted to be at least close to one of them instead of driving
an hour and 10 minutes every day to babysit now and then got to be driving so come here we love this area um fell in love the right way got fortunate Katie's house so been there and really enjoyed it and I I've been always been
heavily involved in boards committees you know I was CEO of some company board stuff like that so I've always enjoyed the committee side of it and this popped up and my wife has always been bugging me that you know you know what's going
on underneath the bridge stuff like that over there or the trails because she likes to walk a lot and this come up and I thought might be a good opportunity to sit in and just see what is happening and become involved and find out more about the trails and parks in the Ornokco area so opportunity arose and I
just thought well we'll take a listen and see what there is so you know I'm I'm interested in taking part in it you know I guess I feel I'm easy to get along with i'm willing willing to work as I get better i did have a a surgery
here last I was in a wheelchair actually last August i got that bad so male did quite the work on me and got me back and now I'm to a cane and we're hoping in three or four months that's gone so we're doing good that way so so I can't do a lot of grounds work right now if
you need that I can you know help where I can so so that's what brings me here tonight i'm just interested and if you're willing to add another board member on it or committee member I'd be happy to take a shot at it you can have my chair
no you're here Lance you don't I used to sit on committees when I first heard those comments I thought "No that's that's the person you don't want to take his spot." I've been here long enough well we we definitely have room for you so what we do as you've heard several
times tonight is we bring things to council and we'll just say we we um how do you say it again bergam bergam yep would like to join the parks and trails committee and then they What do they do
just say they say yay or Okay normally they just say yay do we do we make a motion to nominate him or don't we have to get that form recommendation recommend okay all right well I make a
recommendation to um ask the council for Lee Bergam to be another member of our committee i'll second all right all those in favor say I i i i love it so
that's good that's good that's good yes there's an application filled out completed what an application application yes we have applications for volunteer board positions that need to be completed oh that's exciting you got
some homework i got homework okay well Jason you'll have to help me find that yeah okay well that's exciting i think so we all got to go back and sign one we need to fill them out too Jason he's walking to go get them maybe um okay
what I'm excited about is okay right now I'm gonna count who lives on that side of the highway and who lives on this side of the highway so we have one two three four on that side and then we have one two three four five so we're we're
even jeff's over jeff's by you did you count him no and then Don is in New York right so go ahead Don you gotta unmute though
there you are i'll be back uh I should be back by in May okay good luck healing oh my goodness right thank you yeah um Okay Ryland yes can you put the camera not I mean not that I really want it on
me but I I still want it on blank chairs okay all right let's see where are we on here okay so we talked in quite a bit about the list of ideas from public works and then
um let's see community center park and grounds we will need to start talking about planters i guess we have seven planters so and how do we really want to do that this year and I think there's
already money in the budget that we can spend we don't really have to but we seem to ask every year anyway right so how much money do we need to do all the planters 300 i don't know i was looking at Dawn
but I don't know if she wants to well last year um only had 150 for it but was that enough i think it was like I think it was like 150 um for the the total for the planters
so was that enough money or um I I thought it was enough because I got I went to a a friend's Quaker friends school sale and got many plants half price there were some issues some people
didn't like what was purchased or thought it was toxic which I think can happen with any plant um but also we purchased um with that money uh underground waterers so that they wouldn't require staff time to water
yeah and we left those in there so we're hoping that Right yeah yeah um is there any reason to ask for 200 instead of 150 um I think it that would be better sure
okay and and so that you have some cushion don are you going to be back in time to go to that same sale sure yeah okay all right um I would like to make a motion to ask city council for approval
for $200 for planters second all right thank you Kevin all those in favor say I i i All right motion carries okay i believe we have that in our budget already
anyway so um Okay sorry Lee you got homework apparently that's all right i know my address to write down thank you okay all right and then I'm sorry if I
may interrupt i wouldn't mind hearing um I guess for the planters what worked well last year you know or what or ideas for plants to go planters i mean I I can select what I think works and the one plant that I thought worked really well
was was frowned upon so I wouldn't mind other people's opinions it doesn't have to be now but Well can we get more like flowers i don't know what Sure right and then and then if you want to get super creative you could try to have flowers
that bloom at different times well annuals bloom all the time so right okay we always have to put annuals in there don't we yes well yeah that makes sense because otherwise perennials will probably freeze out so more
okay all right um and we could try to aim for a little bit of yellow for gold rush but I don't know okay what where else are we here so
do we we don't really need to make a date for removing garlic mustard until we come back until the May meeting is that okay so we'll make a date for May for Alice Park
um or no park when when do the bluebird which I discounted all year this in oral parks so I went down I went down on Friday during the thunderstorm like before the thunderstorm and cleaned them out oh that was awesome uh oh um and then I got the ones up in Garden Park
they're they're up in Okay so all you have seven total uh yes nice i might put more up in Oral Park next year i don't have time right now okay so you do you have four in or local park uh yes four bluebird nest
yes and then four garden part three whoops yeah you're right that makes seven all right um let's see yes there's garlic buster at Opal Park too so yeah just to let you know but you'll never be able to pull it
off i don't Is there some close to the edge that would be worth pulling or No no and there's buckthorn too not that much because a lot of it did get removed yeah there's not that much
all right Kane are you doing okay with the mowing of the previous lake bed and do you have anything for the previous lake bed or anywhere else that you want to I guess we keep calling it the previous lake bed it is city of Oronoko
land and I guess it would fall under park land it is part of or park or park so it's just considered that okay nice okay um Lee we have a garden park and that's a that's over here on the
side where you can um rent plots um and if people do that then we figure out a way to till it but it's been quiet but it was also all like you said the construction that was quite a big spot
for the construction stuff so um let's see Carol Park is is that getting much use no it's quiet isn't it but but people are being respectful there like nothing's getting damaged or anything
okay that's good um and then Riverwood Hills Park like we've talked about before how we'd like to pave those trails and then Jason I guess I want to figure out a way Well because the official name for
that park is is Riverwood Hills Park isn't it or why would the internet call it Valley View Park okay that's what I thought all right valley sure right used to be an easement
sure so is that probably why Yeah it used to be easement i don't know if it's still I don't walk that section of the park it comes down and maybe that's how come it was called River River Park okay but
Riverwood Hills is the official name valley Park so maybe I could try to I don't know how that there's a sign up on it i don't know what it says so you want to try to change it on Google Maps there's usually a way you can click and
you can report a problem right isn't it okay all right we'll see if I can pull that off in the next month okay and then I like this idea um Ruby that you've had about new park equipment options for purchasing maybe getting some donations from community businesses as well now
that we're getting more community businesses here so um and then Memorial Park uh T-ball Kane as far as you know is that gonna happen i Yeah it's gonna happen
jason would know more jason is it theas that are going to have or is it the lens that have the equipment i'm sorry what t-ball yes is it the Len or how do you say their last name i'm not sure i have a T-ball address that
I've been contacting with we have 34 people signed up for T-ball right now um 33 I think last check okay however only a handful of paid yet so they haven't paid a month but they have made the
online registration happen so they're so far they're bumping up some good numbers there yeah that's pretty good for the first week of April all right fantastic thank you Jason all right and anyone have anything else
to add this evening i um should probably report not It's something I bugged Kane about but um I I applied for a sentence to serve crew to clear the bank along in front of the Presbyterian Church on the
road roads road uh road right away so just it's an FYI it's nothing that you have to worry about fantastic that's great is that still Dustin or who no that would be MCC send to serve as
something different okay great are they coming in April or May yeah they said they were finishing up something and uh I got a I'm waiting for a call from to come and take a look and make a date nice all right okay anything else anybody yes
Jason um I just had one more quick thing uh last couple weeks I've had some residents call in wanting to make reservations at various parks for things such as like the basketball courts or um
things down at Riverwood Park and basically you know trying to make reservations for parties events things like that and I tell them we don't have anything on our free schedule for that we don't do reservations um it's got a first come down first serve and there was some you know no okay they understood they were happy about it but
there was also some concern like they wanted to make sure that they had it so I think that might be something that this committee should look at maybe start looking at next month kind of put together a list of you know what amenities do we have at the parks what can we offer as far as a rental you know
basketball court we want to rent it out by the hour have it available to rent out by the hour like reserved like they're going to have that park reserved two to four for this for the basketball court for sure um that way people can feel more confident know that they've got access to it same with the soft the
the ball field had a couple questions about that i know Kane's talked with a couple people too they want to rent it out but they they don't know when and obviously coming into T-ball season you know we obviously T-ball's taking priority they've got their set dates and all that um but having it so they can
rent it out i know that's something I did in my youth was have a birthday party at the ball field rent it out for an hour or two and whatnot so I think that'd be something to to look at this this committee should look at doesn't have to be exorbitant costs or anything like that but um I think this' be a
great project for the city to take on we could maybe amend our fee schedule this year yet uh to include some of those things for the parks in the city we do have a fee schedule for Oro Park yes or not it's specifically for the
gazebo that's the only thing it's for or not the gazebo the shelter excuse me is for the park shelter would you imagine we could charge a fee for somewhere else at Oronoko Park no for she's talking about for the ball fields or recreational recreational right
recreational spots and maybe that's something you want to look at maybe somebody has a big event that they want to reserve the whole park for and say "Hey we're going to have a you know the uh the car show that's coming through or we're going to have the you know a family get together or we've got the
last one was a group from Mayo is wanting to they wanted to reserve the river Riverwood Park and I was like we don't really have that." So you know I think it'd be good to look at that and kind of look at the options and put something together to be able to present to council go hey this is kind of what
we came up with uh and this is what we support doing and like I said it doesn't have to be exorbitant cost or anything like that but it gives the citizens a chance to really be able to reserve it for an event they want so I just heard that
every is there still time to put anything on the April city council agenda and I feel like that is an answer of technically yes technically yes but it's full it's It's not full well it's just it's we're coming up on like the last
day or so here so because when is the when is council next week so usually cut it off tomorrow or Wednesday at noon so if we come up with fee schedules at
our May meeting will that still be able to have maybe we can do a little parenthesy give us a spaceolder for plenty of time to get for May yeah okay because that's that's what I like to review at this time what what all do we really want to get at council with
this time i think it's the planters and what else really has Well so so Lee I guess after you figure fill out paperwork so items that I wanted to bring to council would be the the $200 up to $200
for planters and then our other motions i don't know if the burn friendly age friendly fiscalness fiscalness sorry what else do we need to get to
Jason go ahead are we asking for council support for reimbursement for that i thought we were going to try we just want it to be available so that we know if expenses come up that we can use it okay
[Music] um so we're doing proactive yes okay so we have four things great i believe so okay all right and what we really want to say is we
talked about all these things under number one for Kane and we support him trying to figure that all out but we don't have to tell council that necessarily right okay all right are we
good you think are we good call the meeting yep okay i'll make a motion to close the meeting all right 8:41 all right
thanks everybody thank you Katie and everybody hope to hope to see you in May good luck you'll do good Lee next meeting is today may five
may five lee I want to look at that you have a motion to journ yep yeah kevin oh but I don't know if we second all that stuff oh my gosh i second it there you go all those in favor say I i all seems I okay fantastic 840