I'm I was >> All right, here we go. >> Shut Let me shut the one off. Oh, >> that's weird. Oh, yeah. You got to do both. >> Oh, so both of them are f Oh god.
>> Oh, would that be part of the noise? >> Yeah, >> that's not Somebody said that. >> That's what that was. What >> hypothesized? >> Yeah. >> Not guaranteed, but those were microphones and that's a fan. >> I don't know. Sounds like they'll say that. I think they said once you can't
help the fans on with them >> and they just happen to drop them right right beside the fan. >> Yeah. >> What part of that? >> I mean it's a little bit distracting like >> there. Oh,
>> speaking of fans. Oh, there we go. Oh, too far back there. All right. Awesome. All right. We may begin then at I'm gonna say 7:07 because I want to.
All right. Awesome. So, whoa. Commissioners now. That's scary. So, what did you say? >> On the on the draft agenda for Rachel, we are called >> We all have new titles.
>> You've been Well, thank you for sharing. >> Sure. >> Yeah. Okay. So, Justin Black is here. Uh Lee Bergen has let us know he could not make it.
Jeff Mangon is here. Marie is here. Uh, Don is here, Kevin is here, and then Katie is here, and Joy needs to be put on here. Um,
so, and then Ryland said he could not make it. >> All right. >> Are you >> So, this was something that >> he's missing. >> Oh, okay. Sorry. >> That um Rachel put together and I'm still trying to figure out. Is it called Diligent? >> Diligent.
>> Diligent. Um, so I apologize, Joy. So, and I did not, as you could tell when I first looked at it, I said commissioner. >> I don't know. Do you understand why we're being called commissioners? >> No. >> I wonder if that's just a template that everybody's called a commissioner.
>> That's what they call the planning and zoning. >> Yeah. Members are commissioners. That's all. >> I expect it's just in my guess is the template. >> We get paid more now. >> I think we are all on a mission together. We are commissioner. Wow.
>> Are we going to work together? >> Yeah, I guess. >> I love it. >> Hold hands and sing Kumbai. >> So, on this agenda, um, does anyone have anything to add? >> Did you guys a little uh did you need
anything more about the Trexs? I talked to Chad Hartto at West Circle HY. I sent an email and then it was kind of just A+. Did you want a little formality in the minutes or >> the email? Sure. >> Just a quick little word because I don't see anything in the new minutes.
>> It's not in the agenda. So, yes, we should probably >> old business maybe. >> Yeah. I would like to make a motion that >> Oh, it is. I'm sorry. I didn't see the hyperlink doc. Apologies. >> Oh, no. But Joy No, Joyy's on the right track. We're gonna put that. I'd like to
make a motion that we add under old business number one the TX bench program. >> Perfect. >> We'll second that. >> All right. All those in favor say I. >> I same sign.
>> Um and I also um Mel I think it was Mel sent me um a whole bunch of signs for the for prairie like to protect the prairie for the >> Okay, good. So do should I just pick one? Should I bring it to committee? >> Should you add that on as >> or add it on? Thank you.
>> Yeah, we can do that for the old business too. >> Under old business. >> Yeah, I'm happy to pick or have the committee pick whatever they Yeah. Thank you. >> Are they in your email or something? >> I think it's only they've been approved. We But when when you go to buy one,
there's like 30 different kinds. >> Ah, I get it. I get it. All right. So, >> so then are we using the the diligent for the agenda? I printed off the other agenda that kind of the format we've been going with. Is this Are we not using this one now? We're going to be
using that one. >> I think we're supposed to work towards using this, but um I think they want it in this template because then all the minutes are the same in console packets. >> Okay. So, I need to change my format
that I make things in for the minutes. >> Yeah, I would try to align to that >> to the diligent. >> Y >> you should have Katie, I don't know if you do. I tried to go in there and edit it after Rachel said it was done. I couldn't edit it. I can see it.
>> Okay. >> So, I don't know if there's like editor access. So, like >> and and that's not something to even access on a phone, right? Like, do you have to be in a laptop? >> No. access it on. It's just a website. You can log in, it
probably would look funky and small >> because because I' I've tried to do the same thing. So, you know, if we're really getting serious about using it, um, you've got to figure this out. >> One would say diligent, right?
>> I know we need to be diligent about using it. Um, also this also Rachel and all there should be there should be like an editor access but I I couldn't do it which I don't need it but >> but you're I think you're saying you
could get permission to be to edit that would be great >> because then both of you can go in there and just add it in there >> and it's just maybe somebody something that nobody's thought of yet. And the nice thing is once it's ready to go, you you like approve it and then it sends a
note to all of us and saying the agenda's out there. >> Like am I in a way that I can do that or no? >> No, you're just you're just you. >> I'm the only. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All right. So go and adjust that
template then to Okay. >> Yeah. >> Once we get really good. So, it's it's Rachel and Jason are our contacts for that. >> I'll send Rachel and Yeah. >> Okay. Awesome. Thank you. Okay. So, let's go back to
All right. Um, so I make a motion to approve the agenda. >> Second. >> All right. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> All right. I I would like to read the minutes real quick because they're not a
lot of neat to know I guess so we can all be caught up. So um what we have in here what we talked about in December um that someone was going to contact West Circle Hi about bulk number two and
four plastic drop off and then individual businesses will have collection bins. This would look good for future grant applications for the city. Will we have enough community interest for this program? Once the program starts, there is a 12-month deadline to complete. Don volunteered to
be the contact moving forward and we'll submit questions to TRIX and then um contact local boat shrink wrapping businesses and the committee will discuss in January once more information has been gathered. So, we'll go over that information when we get to it. And
then Steve Sherry with the Orono Lions Club um would like to they would like to adopt Oronogal Park. Possible name change to Orono Lions Park. This would include helping to update park equipment and possible upkeep of park. Park parks
can supply a list of things that need updating and the city would still be responsible for mowing. Marie will work with Steve to come up with a proposal to bring to the January meeting. And then on 1216 was a final budget truth and taxation meeting. So we will we will um
see what that is all about. And then um in December access was closed for the season at Alice Park. Um signs need to be ordered at Garden Park. Jason wants to create a 2026 calendar for the entire year. I think we
talked about that um in December. and then we adjourn at 8:18. So, um I make a motion to approve the December minutes. Right. All those in favor say I.
>> Same sign. All right. Motion carries to approve the minutes. Thank you. >> All right. So, our new business um talks about the parks and trails budget for 2026. Um Marie, would you like to tell us more about the $2,000?
>> Yep. So, Lee approved budget in December. So, parks and trails has $2,000 now for supplies. So, that would cover buying flowers, um, signage, if we wanted to do some of those things. We wouldn't need to necessarily go to city
council for approval. We'll have small amount to do within this committee. Um, so that I think will be helpful when we want to do smaller things. The other thing from a CIP perspective, I know we had a wish list of I think 128,000 that
got nixed down to 65,000 for some trail paving. So, we'll need to decide what we want to do with that. We have a couple of options. We can hold on those funds. Um understanding that um we'll ask for
additional CIP in the 2027 budget um we can do part of Riverwood Trails um or um we can proceed with paving or no park but we have 6500 or 65,000 to do
that. So it doesn't cover all of the costs but it does cover some. We'll just need to figure out what is our plan for that funds if we want to do anything or wait until we have s um sufficient funds for everything. Um we could also get some cost estimates
um to see we might be able to do it at cheaper. Um I'm not sure those were just some estimates from Santex. So um we have some money. We didn't get it all. Um so we'll have to figure out what we want to do from a parks and trails perspective for that.
Now we remember the what was a estimate just to go from the roundabout right there in Orogo Park down to that shelter. What was the price of that? >> Y >> Oh, so so that could be done, right? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay. That was >> Yeah. Okay. >> I think that would be something to show the residents that we're moving forward on something. Um, I think to do part of Riverwood Hills
might not be cost effective that it might be a two-year plan. >> That's just my personal thought. >> The one thing too, and I we could totally do that for Arnold Park, I think. Um, my next topic,
talking with Steve about the Lions Club, even thinking about what that park could be. Um, we'd want to make sure that we have a good plan before we start to put some trails in so that we're thinking about the future. I think one thing we talked about was that bathroom
situation. That's probably something that will need to be addressed and potentially even just tore down and or rebuilt differently. Um, so we wouldn't want to make sure like if we're putting a trail in that it's going to go to something in
the future versus now we're going to tear down the pavilion and it's going to be whatever. Um, so we could we could also think about what does that park look like? Um, you know, in a 5 10 year plan with Lions Club being able to to
bring some money in for for that as well. But again, we can we can do with how we want with that fund. Um, we can pave it or we can hold or whatever that looks like, too. But I just want to make sure that we're not
just paving that and then we're deciding something different for that park space and then it's not totally utilized because we don't have a whole lot of money, right? We want to make sure that we're adding the most impact there as well. Um,
>> so how would you say to figure out that do we have a process that we want to go through, you know, bring in public or bring in someone to assess what we want to do with that park
>> or is it this committee and if the um Lions Club is going to adopt it, do we work with them as well? So what we talked about um jumping to the next topic. So Kane um Steve and I met um the
week of Christmas and so we talked a little bit about the the plan and so we talked a little bit about what does it mean for role clarity between the city and what Lions would do. I know we talked about it here but really tried to formalize it. We also talked about like
a wish list and putting things in a 1, three, five, 10year plan. Um, and then understanding that some of them are more expensive than others, right? Um, and I talked a little bit about some of the ideas that we had from the survey from the residents about, you know, splash
pad and pickle ball and and basketball and frisbee golf and all of those things. And so he was going to take back the proposal to the Lions Club to make sure that that was aligning to what they were thinking and then bring it back to this committee and say, "Here's what
we'd really like to I mean, we even talked about like an amphitheater down there. >> An amphitheater. >> Oh, >> right. Like have people come in in the summer and have band, you know, again, that's all going to cost money. We're not going to do it tomorrow. And so, if that's the plan, right? How do we prep
that park to have that space or have a walkway, right? We can't build the amphitheater, but we can pave to it or whatever. Um, so he was going to talk a little bit to the Lions Club group to just make sure that they were on track. we were going to bring it here before it goes to city council. So, really
starting to plan out like where things would live in that park. Um, we might need um maybe some resources in terms of engineering and design, but right now it's just like what do we all envision down there and what would it mean from a
financial investment understanding that they would have a little bit of money but not something that they could build a >> amphitheater or splash pad down there next year. So, >> so perhaps a joint meeting >> maybe when it warms up where we could
actually walk the park >> y >> and think of not just the way it is but the future with some open eyes. >> Yeah. >> Fresh ideas. >> Um >> and that's why I would maybe steer away from paving just until we have that plan
because I'd hate to put that money there and then realize that pavilion's not in the right spot. stops us from doing something else or we dig it up. So, and I think what you're saying is we I mean, which I think is I would agree this is what you're saying, we need a long-term plan
>> so that when things go in when when possible, they're not blocking something else. >> Yeah. Yeah. Right. >> I wonder um you know, just in discussions about the bathroom, uh it used to be usable with showers and
such when there was a campground. I don't know that that's going to be a feasibility >> anymore. So, is there really a purpose to have flush toilets or toilets there
or showers? Um, so maybe instead of investing money into something like that, we will look at uh maybe restructuring that for uh some kind of a shelter or storage building. I don't know what the condition is, but that
could be part of the discussion, I would think. >> Yeah. The only thing I was going to say about that, and I'd have to I'd have to talk to Kane, but I remember on our walks in the morning, we go down
there, and this is this last year, and um I could have swore there's a grinder station right outside. That >> probably is. There's a grinder station outside that bathroom right now. >> So the that's been installed and then
and the only thing I I guess I'm kind of old school, but that that building in and of itself, I mean, it's got a lot of character. And I mean, the stone that's built >> that's built that is is pretty neat. I'd like to see somehow that that could could be utilized. I like you said, I
don't know if that's but um and maybe maybe I'm way off, but it's it's one of those where it was put in there a long time ago and it would it'd be neat if we could still to utilize that somehow. I mean, if there's a grinder station in there, obviously that's that's for
bathrooms one way or the other. So, um but it's just a thought. Um, I just think that and I know that the guys over the years, I mean, they they uh put the all that granite paint stuff down there on the floor and and they really cleaned
it up. And I mean, they and still had the showers and stuff, but I don't know. It'd be it'd be neat to see if that was if and maybe Kane says no, but I I I haven't talked to him, but it's just something to keep it. >> Does the plumbing work in there? >> It sure. Yeah. The water works, but it's
just it's pit toilets, isn't it? >> It's not flush toilets. I don't know. I don't It It's a functioning bathroom. >> Yeah, it's a function. And And like I said, they spent the money and put a grinder station in there. Well, that's for that's for sewer. That's for >> maybe the only problem is it is not
handicap accessible. Or is it >> handic to get up to there's flush toilets? >> Oh, you don't I don't know. I haven't been in there. >> And and that was one of the biggest problems that they had. So, this would be something definitely to visit about to figure out where we're at with that because that didn't come up. Yeah.
Right. When you're with Kane, >> um we talked about the camping situation there and Lions if they um took it over, they would not want camping, which I don't think that's probably a non not a really big issue. So, if we didn't have camping, we wouldn't need showers,
right? And so, um I think the thought with Keen is we need to figure out what we would do with that because it is there is upkeep that is needed and if we want to keep it that way, we should do a little bit at a time versus waiting till
it's truly dilapidate dilapidated and then trying to pick fix it up. >> And so I'm curious where they're at with getting water and sewer there. And I know I asked that every month, >> but >> yeah, I don't know. I mean, there's water to it, but I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if it's on city. I
don't think so. But >> Right. Yeah, that that's definitely a hurdle and and that park is big enough that I think it does deserve, you know, a real bathroom. >> But I even think of like, you know, other pavilions where it's a pavilion with the bathroom attached, right? And
so like if we're going to >> do that and try to rent it out, right? It does it makes sense to have it all in one space versus in two separate. Now we have to have walkways and and so again, I think all of that comes to what is that long-term plan? What do we want Ornoco Park to look like? Where do
things live? And maybe we can't keep that building, but maybe we can take some of the rock and incorpor, you know, I mean, there's ways to to bring that back to life and maybe a new space. >> So, I'm sure it has historical value,
you know, not as far as the state historical value, but for the city. >> Well, it is still listed as state park. So, that's Google. You gotta keep asking them and asking them. >> Yeah.
>> Um Okay. >> So, so would this be something like um to look at this long term like getting something that's long term um like a subcommittee that would be looking at I'm talking to everybody. Yes. Um a
subcommittee to to look at um you know like the needs assessment of the bathroom, needs assessment of the park, needs assessment of the pavilion. I mean, it's I don't think we're going to do this once a month. >> And when we met there
um for one of our meetings, the electricity was weird. Do you remember the light turning off? >> Well, just a motion light motion light. >> It was just dark. It was too dark. But that would be an assessment piece where it's like the lighting doesn't stay on
if you're >> Well, I think I think everything would be like, you know, where where do we want the trail or or what where would the if we got a, you know, $10 million, where would the amphitheater go? >> Yeah. >> Or whatever. What I'm trying to ask is I don't think we can do this as a group once a month.
>> No. >> So, how do was the right now you've visited with Steve and Kane? >> Yep. And then Steve was going to come back to say what Lions Club wants to do. >> Yeah. >> Versus what Yeah. >> we're going to do or something. So, do
we need more that right now? >> Yep. They need to because they're financially helping here that they would need to figure out what is within their budget. I mean, we want to make sure that we're controlling the plan of the park, right? And so
my approach would be let them talk with Lions Club, figure out if this is some of the things that they would want to do to that park in 1, three, five, 10 years. Bring it to us and say this is what we'd want to do. Here's some of our ideas. Yeah, we'd probably need to get
someone to come down and help us design the park and do some of that work, but here's like the big ticket things that we'd like to do and where we would have ideas there. then get approval to go through this committee and then city um council to formally do that. Um and then
we can you know continue to work on what that looks like as they adopt that part. >> So um could first question is you know a long-term plan takes money and often professional consulting. Could Lions
Club pay for the professional consulting for the plan? They could. I mean, we'd have to figure out, >> right, that, >> but I I still when you're talking about the Lions Club and the city,
is there I mean, I could I don't know how to say it. I could see it easily kind of not getting out of hand, but I'm not sure I'm still not sure what who who would be making the decisions because >> Well, city council. >> Okay. >> It's still a city park. >> Oh, right. Okay. But not
Okay. Okay. So, and and that's everybody's comfortable with that. I mean, I don't mean that the city council shouldn't be, but I'm saying like just input on. So, it would be the um consulting company who probably would then have community engagement at times and park engagement. I mean,
commissioner engagement at times. Maybe Lines would like to help with the um long-term strategic plan funding. >> Yeah. So, I think that's where Steve needs to figure out what they're willing to contribute to that. I mean, if it's a
thousand, I don't think you're going to get a nice drawing um of that. Um so, again, I think they need to figure out what they're willing to contribute to that park. >> If we haven't told them what we're looking at, I mean, they probably aren't going to say we want to support a
long-term plan. I mean, that probably won't be their initiative. Well, I shared all of the feedback that we got from the survey of like big ticket items that people would like to see in Arnold. Not that it all needs to be at that park, but for them to consider some of those
>> I guess. Is there a plan that did they hear the word like, you know, we could we would enjoy or whatever appreciate support on a plan for this park. >> Yeah, we'd want to make sure that there's a plan. Yep. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yep. >> And how often do they meet?
>> I don't know. I'm not sure. I'm just saying it's >> they mean once once >> that might be that might be they're offending that might be a good um way to get offended. >> Y and so next steps from that was was just that we had a joint meeting with
Kane to talk about um expectation, scope and timeline. Um bring forward a plan for phased improvements. Um that would be near-term, medium-term, longterm. um thinking about funding and grant strategies for that group um as well
because even if they are contributing, there's still probably grant opportunities that would help um move that Barkc then be able to bring that forward and then a walkth through in spring to really fully um look at that park condition, confirm improvement
priorities, assess volunteer opportunities, and then um we'll bring it forward for that long-term plan. And that's all when you're talking doing this, you're talking about this group, not not just
>> just wanted to make sure. >> I would think Steve probably would come to many of these meetings to to talk about what Lions Club. >> It's not just working with the Lions Club, it's working with us. Yep. >> And them join. >> Yep.
>> Yeah. Some of the other things that we talked about, we talked about the bathroom um plan. Um Ian really wants to remove that seaw wall and restore the landscaping there. Um they don't want camping there
anymore. >> Did the seaw wall provide protection last year though or was that two years ago? >> I don't know. >> But but I hear they don't want camping. Is that what we want? I mean, do do we not want >> the city? I It's been voted. I don't know. Oh, the city. Okay. I thought you
were talking about Okay. Sorry. Fine. >> I mean, we can bring it back if we want it, but I don't think it would happen. >> I didn't know when you said they I didn't know you referred to the city. >> Yeah. City council voted on no more camping. Camping brought a lot of interesting situations. I don't think it
would be >> I just who was behind Okay. I thought who was behind that, but >> yeah, I think the financial feasibility wasn't there. that you didn't make enough to pay someone over. >> I just the way I heard it was Lions Club
didn't want amping their way. >> Great. I know who pay your questioning who was >> so Steve's taking that forward and then we'll bring back a proposal here. >> They have to go through parks and trails before they go any further.
>> Nice. >> Okay. They have to go through parks and trail a greater commission of parks and trails greater commission of Minnesota. >> No, just >> Oh, us. >> We are a great commission. >> Sorry. >> Has to come through parks and river.
>> Oh, Michigan. >> Well, no, there's also the greater Minnesota parks and trails who does a lot of funding. And so I thought maybe and and they're part of m they need master plans before you can get funding from them. So I'm like, oh, >> never mind. And that that is what Ryland
talks about the Zemer water trip. So >> yeah, >> but this they would they're also specific to parks. >> Yes. >> If we wanted to see grants or funding then we would go through them. I mean there's other things that we could probably get.
>> Yeah. No, that'd be great. I thought you meant them and you just meant us. >> Us here. Too many them. >> All right. So, are we good on that for now?
>> Great. On the >> Yeah, park type stuff. >> Thorough thorough review. >> All right. Um, is next tricks next or not? Where are we at? >> Um, well, the one I have is Yeah, we're talking about the adoptive bench
program. I don't have that agenda. >> This T-Rex though, I think. >> Whoa, wait, where's that from? Thanks. >> This was on the same email chain with the state we used to do this. >> Oh yeah, that's the previous one. Okay.
So I think we put it under old business today. Um and what how did you have it written? Adopt a bench program. >> Well, that's what it has on. This is this is not me. This is what sent sold.
>> That is fair. Okay. So, um, we've had some developments with the next TRX. Um, I think I'm going to I'm going to start with >> it's T-Rex. T R E X >> was it not nex.com.
Doesn't matter. >> Yeah. The website is Nex, but it's TX. Yep. >> Yeah. Okay. The TX benches that you looked into. >> Yeah. I want I want to reveal what Jeff found out first and then >> the big reveal. >> Yeah. And then you can do your reveal
and then we'll have a discussion. But does Jeff actually not me? >> Yeah. Let's do a big reveal and then if the big reveal disqualifies my >> I like that you did it, but I don't know if it I think it changes the plan sentences. >> Go ahead. >> Mine is too quick. I spoke to Chad Hart
reluctantly. I was able to wear him down and he will accept two hefty sized garbage bags each week or every two weeks which was it >> I believe it was every week >> you had to talk to him about >> well he's got a lot of people uh he's
very familiar with the program >> and a lot of people have come and tried to do this with him but they just collect all of the different polyurethanes >> and we talked about plastics from meats and things like that and they had the day that I spoke to him, they had to
throw five hefty sized garbage bags out just because they didn't qualify. So, he didn't exactly want to deal with a lot of the logistics of it and I was able to say, you know, it's just the businesses. It's not community donations. Um, but we
will be able to have control of what gets donated. He says, "I know you. I'm sure that you'll be able to do this the right way and not make it a headache for me. So, >> don't want trash. >> Exactly. Yeah. They don't want to take time.
>> Sorting through our garbage. >> So, that was that. >> But then she found out >> well at the last November meeting I said I'd be happy to be a contact person. So, there's kind of like one um whatever um which ended quickly. Oh, so and they
didn't want to answer my questions kind of like you know and eventually it's like well blah blah blah blah back and forth back and forth by email. >> So on 1211 T-Rex or TX whatever it is ultimately your group will no longer be guaranteed a bench for so they're changing the
program is the lead. They're changing the program a lot and they haven't heard back from them yet. They did not want to write this but they did eventually. Ultimately your group will no longer be guaranteed a bench for collecting a minimum plastic. You will get a credit for the plastic you are collecting and you will be entered into a quarterly
drawing for every 250 pounds. The bench will still be part of the reward offering if you if you are chosen along with $500 valund along with five along with other $500 valued items that you can choose from. Um if you're interested
in purchasing a bench or viewing the dimensions, you can do so at www. So it sounds like the program as we know it >> just dissolving >> has dissolved >> or is modified. It seems to be like collect a,000 pounds and get four raffle tickets every quarter
>> and maybe you'll maybe get a bench. So >> is it one raffle digit per quarter? >> So does it say well they weren't I don't I wouldn't put all of this um they say quarterly drawing for every 250 pounds. >> So for every 250. So, if we were to
collect a,000 pounds orderly, we would get four. >> I don't know that we I don't know that that's what they're saying. >> Sure. >> Um drawn. >> Yes. How many other entities? >> Well, it says for every Well,
>> so um I can stop there, but I I don't I mean that's that's all they said. I do think we could or as a citizen I could or whatever, but the the companies I talked to were very interested in in not throwing away their waste. Maybe they could do this program so they're not
throwing away waste and then if they do win a park bench they, you know, the parks are, you know, it's all it's win-win. >> But that's that would be not really a park board thing. I think that's more like would you like to do this and if you win a bench
>> like Yeah. So you could encourage people in the community, but we wouldn't be saying >> businesses. >> Yeah, that's what I meant. Businesses, but we're not going to bring it anywhere for them. They have to figure out. >> I think we wouldn't be involved. >> Well, actually, actually, that isn't
saying it has to go to a certain place. That's >> it's not there's a whole lot it's not saying, but I I mean, I would wait. I I guess I'd rather before we discuss the future further, wait till u whatever her name is contact. Was somebody going to write you back?
>> Well, they said we won't know until next year. This was like mid December and Okay. So, I can I can say, "Hey, it's me again." >> Cuz when when I did look it up after reading that >> Mhm. >> that that is pretty much what they're saying is you show us that you've
collected 250 pounds and then we're going to give you a the ability to go in this drawing. So I like your idea of encouraging businesses to participate.
>> I mean the great for neighbors are free benches. Should they occur? >> We will have the plots and the places put out around where we want the benches. The companies come to us and they can select the plot. We had kind of talked about that from a community perspective. So, but that's I mean that's waiting to
hear what the actual but that was I mean it was too bad because it sounded like a great idea and then it I read your email and it sounded like oh good all green lights and then >> not so much. Yeah. >> Yeah. Here it says 25 participating organizations are randomly selected
quarterly and rewarded with a gift value valued at $500. >> Oh, just a gift. Not even a bench. >> It could be a bench. >> Could be a bench. Okay. Each 200. >> Oh, they do a lot of things. >> Their benches weren't very much. >> Yeah. 400 bucks.
>> Yeah, I think so. >> Maybe if you're a company and you just want decking materials, you get $500 credit for decking materials, but we could get a bench or >> or if they want to, you know, they want to sort of be working with the community, you know, it's >> very bad. >> It still does say deliver it to one of
our participating drop offs, too. >> Well, they can figure that out. Yes. And if they I mean I think if they want to volunteer to do this then >> we will not be the collecting stands. We will not be the center point of this project anymore >> mainly because I think it just got too
popular. >> Yeah. >> And they couldn't they couldn't >> we're giving away a lot here >> way they wanted to. Um, so is that is that kind of Well, so you're going to hear some more information, but we're kind of just
thinking as a parks committee would like to encourage our community businesses to participate and just give them the information and then that's where we're at. >> Okay. >> For them to do on their own, right? Um, >> yeah. >> And then, but I mean, so that that doesn't really settle whatever the bench
question was originally. This is just like probably it won't be go we probably won't be going through directly through T-Rex to do this. >> Well, I think I think it's disappointing um that that is where they're changing it. I get it. Um I do think that from a
parks and trails perspective, we should determine what bench we want because I've had um probably a handful of people come and say we're willing to buy a bench and donate it in honor of people as a resident. Um, so I think that's
where we need to figure out where we want benches. What is the style we want? If we want a plaque, what does that plaque look like? I mean, so we can even open it out to individuals because I think there would be an interest for people to buy one um on their own and
donate it. Um, we can encourage businesses to do that. Maybe they don't want to collect their their plastic and they'd rather just donate $500. I mean, so again, I think that's where we need to figure out what's that bench style, where do we want them?
>> You have the ability to flip that up and show us the different styles. Is that something you want to address or at the next meeting? >> For for tracks. >> Well, not for tracks, >> but you had different ideas about
>> Yeah, my benches, the ones I looked at were quite a bit >> and track. or the the rubber coated steel ones. >> Yeah. So, again, I think that's where we need to figure out like what is the look we want and that's going to be the standard bench, right? No different ones. That's
the bench we're using for or if it's tracks, great. If it's the iron ones that that Kane looked at, I think Keen wanted those because they match the picnic tables. But I mean, if we could >> I mean, I don't think that's that money
is probably the juice isn't worth the squeeze on that as long as we're consistent in what benches look like and where we want them placed. >> Yeah. And just how how long lasting they are. Some are going to be obviously the cheaper models, you know,
you kind of figure that they might not last nearly as long. And >> if we're going to spend the money to >> and put them on slabs, we want them permit and something that's going to last. >> Great. Yeah. >> Justin Justin shared it. And so
>> as long as the slab does. >> Yeah. Prices >> 10 years. What's this? What's this? >> And I don't know. I mean, those to me don't look as quite as nice as the truck decking. >> They're probably going to hold up longer. >> Yeah,
>> I would think. >> They're the metal coated rubber bands are longer. You're saying the metal? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. But some of them are quite more than >> when you have people say that they would
like to purchase a bench if they give a dollar amount that they >> they just wanted to know more. So again, that that might vary, right? And I was thinking I'd donate 500 versus 2,000, right? That might that might deter people. But
>> so maybe we should bring it back up and be ready to maybe make a decision in February so they can contact the people so they don't forget about the plan or go like, are you going to do something about this or not? And then we could
have our priority spots picked out and we could have it all set to go with the city department >> to have it placed once it's the the weather instead of waiting until March or April and now we're behind that.
>> Isn't there an AARP bench recommendation or something? >> Yeah, that's I think you had brought that up at the last meeting. >> Yeah. And I um yeah, I did. And I'm sorry I don't have that in front of me.
I think it was more or less the recommendation was sort of the picnic table. >> Oh, okay. So, it wasn't more like a >> what style? I don't >> how many or capacity of how how close to
have them together or anything like that. >> There might have been a spacing recommendation of like every 150. That's what it was. >> 200 to 300 feet on steep grade, 1,000 ft on flat. >> Yeah, what I think that's what ARP recommended.
>> And what do we do for gold rush again? We just have extra picnic tables all over the place, right? >> Yes, I guess because would a bench get in the way of a gold rush lot rental?
>> No, I don't. But no, I don't know. You know gold rush better than I do. You guys >> benches out here, are we? No, >> we wouldn't be putting a lot of benches out here, would we? No, >> we couldn't really because it would get in the way. >> But I think what we're looking at is down in the parks and and on trails.
Trails. >> Yeah, you're around you're around the lake trails. >> Around the lake and then >> these are existing trails. >> Yeah, it's really good. >> Okay. >> Yeah, you can walk that same. They're not They're not like real stick. You
might have to hit something. >> So, we could look who knows somebody. >> Look at the top 10 places we would like to place a bench because I think we have a list of over 25 or 30 spots.
>> Oh, do we? >> Already in that. >> Oh, nice. >> And then say, "Okay, these are our top 10." fill those in. And then once we have those filled in, where's our next priority listing?
>> Perhaps just a thought. But maybe next month we concentrate on picking the bench. >> Yep. >> And picking the top 10 spots. >> Yeah, I think that's a reasonable goal. >> Yeah, because when I put like where they
would sit, I just put them on there. I didn't look at thousand feet or anything, but I think the other thing is if we're paving them, I'd hate to put a bench there and then we pave a little bit different. So like some of those maybe we don't offer right now, right?
If we're talking about Riverwood Hills and even kind of in Ornoo Park potentially like some of those maybe we just don't offer them yet because we don't know what that's going to look like or maybe we do. I don't know. I know Kane wanted to put a cement pad
underneath it so they didn't have to mow under it. >> Um and it and it it keeps them down um a little bit easier, too. So, and he said that would just come out of his budget um the concrete to to um do it underneath it.
>> Or the cost on those benches that was kind of highlighted. thought most of them were >> I don't know >> 650 700 >> anywhere from well it depends if we want to go with a 6 foot that's 761 on this one style if you go 8 foot then it's
another 150 foot >> that's a big bench that's a big bench >> a six foot I would think would be all four foot four foot's kind of >> four to six a love seat you know you get two people sitting on a walk there six feet you're stretching out I can lay down on a bench >> I'm
this week. We kind of >> you got you got to remember some old fossils come alive. You might want to lay down. >> I think we want to try to >> and I'm talking more people to buy. You know, another thing is, you know, like myself, my wife and I might like to maybe not buy a whole
bench, but put some money towards it. I mean, would it be nice to have a community fund where we put money towards people? That would be kind of neat. by a quarter bench, a half bench, three/4 bench. >> $10 worth of bench. Not feel guilty.
Anytime you need to take a sit drawing at the end of it, >> you know, >> I I'm distracted by an October 21st message from Kane that shows weird street signs like adopt a street. Was he
was he wanting us to put signs like that? Oh, I don't know. Versus the plaques that we're used to. I don't know you. >> So, what are we doing with the What are
we doing with the bench? Oh, >> yeah. >> So, I guess we'll need to decide what bench style we want. >> What are we What I mean, we should be down to what color, right? What size? um so that they're all uniform. Um I think
the other thing is engraving andor a plaque. Um so what do we want the plaque to look like? I I think what Kane would like is a pretty standard. Here's what you're going to get if you want a bad say kind of like what you were saying before about maybe doing this in
February. Maybe there's um human cane or whatever. Somebody comes up with like a proposal. We propose the benches are four feet long or six feet long, this color, blah blah blah, and then bring it for our review. So, we can say, "Well, no, six feet is better than four feet or green is better than black."
I don't think we're going to site all that here. But, >> yeah, I mean, I can send this PowerPoint again. It has two different bench styles with pricing in there with a variety of different colors. Do you would you and he have a recommendation what you would prefer? >> I think he's looking to this committee to figure that out. He doesn't have a
preference. >> Well, his preference, what you said, is to match the picnic tables that they have existing in some of the parks already. >> That's why he sent that one originally. Um, but there is one down in Orco Park that is kind of that tre.
So, we kind of have a variety of all. So, but I think he was going with this company because that's the company he buys the >> FAS. But >> yeah, the I guess the one thing I see like in
certain ones there's a lot of different colors, but in my opinion, I think you'd want to keep it to more of a tan or a you get too dark a colors, it's going to get hot. You want to keep the colors light, I would think. Yeah, they have a tail.
the metal screen >> and the recycled ones come in gray green >> brown theater and >> I think they I mean I I like the point that they would be you know they they shouldn't get too hot hopefully not too hot in the summer but also that they're findable that they're not exactly like
green >> hidden trees >> um or in camouflage and I mean for me I'm happy to go to the consensus that I don't think I'm gonna have strong opinions about um about where the benches go or I mean it's not I think it's great to put them for um older
people um and like how many feet is recommended which was already discussed and up the hill. I mean that's all great and I um that's why I guess why I'm saying it'd be great to see like what is being recommended and I'm probably not personally I'm it'll be like consensus.
I have to just say that I am impressed by the number of benches that have been proposed in the old lake bed. >> Yeah, >> that's exciting. >> I mean, we don't need to put them there either, but >> when when this is what I'd want to ask Kane
as to how when was the last time all these areas were underwater? because I kind of get it why he wants this takes me back to the getting rid of the river wall, >> but I think the river wall like did
something last year or two years ago, >> but does he want to get rid of it because of M and what's what's anyone know his reason? I mean, is it mowing? I think it's very hard to get equipment down there. Um, >> he said he wanted to restore the landscape. So, I think pulling out some of those big rocks and just letting it
kind of go back to natural, >> right? Um I don't know. We've all lived here long enough to see everything get really wet. So, that would be my biggest concern about where benches could go without going downstream.
>> So, that's my concern. >> Well, if they're attach if they're attached to a slab, they're not going to be going downstream. I guess for me, it's like is it metal or plastic? Like the ones at River Park, didn't those picnic tables pick up? >> Yeah. >> So, I think yes, they did. >> They're attached to it. >> But I know like on the previous lake
bed, you know, if we put some benches back as, you know, as you walk down that hill back through the trees, if that flooded, the water wouldn't be moving. It would just be, I think, stagnant water. So, it's not going to it's not going to pick up, you know, the benches
and wash them away. Now, if we had if we had put benches right along the river, then yes, those would probably go bye-bye. >> But >> and there are some that are slabed in. There's those tables on River Park right on the river. >> But one of those did get picked up. >> Those slabs came out over the lake. >> Yeah,
>> that was >> because I mean that once that water gets up above there, it just straight lines across the park. It doesn't go out and around. So, it just blows. >> Yes. >> And maybe that's where we don't maybe we don't want them. Maybe that's where picnic tables go where you can pick them
up at the end of the season or we're going to get footed. I mean, >> back here at the area would be good for, you know, some benches back there where people come down and can sit as their family goes out maybe walks the the trails. >> Yeah. Maybe we don't put them in that middle. That's what you're looking for.
>> Has anyone been up to the Pine Island part? You know, that gets flooded all the time. They have cement benches. >> Yeah. that's full cement >> and I don't think those get taken away because they're heavier than
>> nothing. >> So that's just something to also look at >> like maybe down at the bottom. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Lake bed, something like that. So if anybody has a chance, just look at
the Pine Island Park. >> Yeah. That one gets flooded pretty much every year. >> Yeah. look through here. >> Yeah. So, we just need to decide what our look is and where we want them and
then I would say if people want to businesses want to do it. I mean, they can still donate or we can have a general fund. Um, but >> it would some it would be something that kind of brings awareness to the parks and trails committee. Um, I don't know
how how do you get a fund going where if >> Joe across the street wants to come in with $500 and say, "I'd like to donate to the buy a park a bench, >> we just have to know and >> set up an account for that money to go into and be under the park
>> budget and >> they would have to make a resolution when this when the city council accepts that donation. to make a resolution that says we are accepting this amount of money and it's going into the specific fund. So it would go into the park
department's maybe CIP fund or certain fund but it has to be the council has to be diligent >> by making those resolutions because when you have minutes the resolutions stand up. You'll you'll
see those more. There's a resolution book supposed to be. >> Yeah, >> that is very true. That is good. >> All right. >> So, do you want me to send this around
>> again? Okay. I'm happy to. >> All right. I'll let you do it. Hug it up. Don't worry. Okay. And that's something where we when we meet you can put it up so when we're all talking we can see it.
>> Yeah, I can try. I know the one time I did I got like the voice back. Um >> Oh, yeah. >> But yeah, I can try. Especially if you guys look at it, then you kind of have an idea. So maybe we can just have the slides
and I don't need the audio. >> Good. >> We want to look at doing all that for February and kind of making a vote of what style come to a conclusion on bench format, size, whatever. And all of that.
I like that. We did not put the that was before the truck decking. I can put a slide in. I know they're a little bit different look and a different cost. >> I did have one that was that like
recycled wood look, but I think they're pretty comparable in cost, but >> Hey, what are we thinking? just kind of a quick like straw pole like do we like the you know synthetic wood look or do we
like the rubberized steel? >> I may be the odd person now, but I'd say rubberized steel. I think it's just more Yeah, I I think it's going to hold up to weather. And not that we have vandals in
this lovely town of ours, but I have children who scratch things seemingly unintentionally. Um, >> it would it would be it would be cool people to maybe go just look at the picnic tables that we currently have
>> and sit on them and see what you think, you know, because I I would I would agree it wouldn't hurt to try to match >> what we already have. Um, but these other ones are, you know, it's the recycled plastic, too. So, it's like,
are you going to Well, yeah, we could be supporting that. But I would imagine, isn't it even recycled plastic on the outside of the steel? Maybe not. I don't know. >> Like a rubber maybe
>> like a hard >> like a hard plastic. >> Yeah, hot dip galvanized finish after fabrication. >> Hot dip. And but like but like are we I mean are we supporting are we
supporting a look or do we want to be more supporting recycledness but then I don't know how that's going to hold up and yeah >> so something to think about and those cement ones um I've used them before in
Pine Island and you know that works out nice like if you're taking your shoes off so you can go in the river and stuff like that. So, I mean, none of these benches are meant to be on for too long. So, what do you mean by that?
>> Like it's not meant to watch a concert or sit on I see what you're saying. You know, >> I think I was in the same boat as you, Don, where it's like these these aren't meant to be permanent fixtures forever in the city of Oronogo. >> Yeah. So, I wasn't >> meant to be that they last three to five
years and then, you know, we start over. Give it a decade. Get it out of here. >> Yeah, we Yeah, and that brings up a good point to it. The more that we're installing, we'll have to think about what is that life cycle of that and what is that rotation
and how do we save for when things start to break down and what does that look like from a budgeting perspective, too. Um, if we keep putting money away for CIPs, we can always use that um as well. But there's always a life expectancy for anything
that you buy. >> Yeah, like what we already have at War Park. I wonder how those are doing. >> Well, I just wanted to check again on the point. Did you say that the budget
or some benches could be in the parks department budget, not in our 2000, not in our CIP? Does, you know, he used to have money to do picnic tables.
So, is that still in his >> still It's still in the parks. I would need to look at the budget, but I think it's still in the parks like overhead budget, but Kane manages it from a public works perspective. He
would obviously work with this committee, but I don't know. I know he was asking for 10 new tables and I told him to wait on that until we had the conversation here about Abel versus Bench,
>> right? >> I would have to look again. >> Yeah. because and I think we we had that conversation. Why more picnic tables >> when they're not we had so many picnic tables sitting at the park that day?
>> Why do we need to replace those instead of replacing >> or getting a bench? And I like the idea, you know, that we're going to go out and try to, you know, come up with a a style and everything, but I I like the idea of
putting getting the price for a couple benches and put them in the budget every year >> in in the parks. Just put those set that money aside for a couple extra ones. And if we, you know, get a an extra fund
that we can feed out of to add more benches, that's great. But I think it'd behoove us to to get it in the budget >> and just we can we can decide on that. But >> get get a couple in there right get at least two or three of them right away if
possible depending on what else we have in the budget and then at least we can get them those get going right away. He has he has like a general equipment fund which is
equipment but he has it for signage under the parks and park and wreck department. I don't see the tables anywhere, but he has like recreational all
activities 3,000. He's got another four for others. So, he might have some within his budget, but they're not earmarked as benches or tables within the park and wreck. >> I just wonder can gold rush buy us benches
as community funds. >> I think gold rush is complicated right now. Has Gold Rush changed? >> They just don't make nearly as much money as we used to. That's for sure. >> They'd have to They'd have to donate. So, >> they'd have to donate the money, but they they just don't have the pot that
we used to have. >> But I mean, can we make a request for I mean, you know, they either can say yes or no or whatever. I mean, could is that something could be a request? I mean, the same way. >> Yeah. the organizations request things >> and right now I don't know exactly when
they when they take whatever little bit of money they have and donate it. I don't know when that if that's already taken place. I can talk to Joan. >> It it has taken place. >> I know that uh age friendly 55 got I
think 300 and then age friendly or area I think got $400. >> No, that's right. Yep. So what other groups got it I I don't know. >> Yeah. >> But it did take place. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I guess you're right. That didn't
normally do that. >> I think that's where we should figure out how many benches we want because otherwise we're going to have >> tons of benches and we're going to be like, why do we need any more benches just like we do picnic tables? So I think we should say we need 30, right? and maybe we go and ask businesses to do
it or we create a general fund or maybe we have 30 people in town or businesses that want to do it and then it's not a huge issue. But I think we as a committee should say here's our long-term plan here. We here's where we know trails are going to be. We want them every thousand feet or whatever it
is. Here's where we're at. Maybe we get no one that wants to donate and then we're going to have to do a different marketing campaign on that. Or maybe we get them all donated and >> like that. Y >> I think we need to be the proactive
force. >> Y >> So I sent out that with the last two ones. I don't have the track ones on there, but they they look pretty similar.
a jingga. >> Yeah, this is the track stuff. >> Yeah, you can win a bench, you can win a solo stove, you can win a lifesize Jenga, you can win a life-size connect 4 or a popup heater.
>> A pop-up. >> What's that? >> Projector. >> Oh, how do they put a popup reader? theater. >> It's like a camera. >> Yes. Okay. >> Huh.
And that's for ordering a bench. >> That's for donating the plastic. >> Yeah. So, the Trek ones are about 400 379. Color a little bit. If you want the wood color, they're about 400 410.
But I think, you know, our our look would we need to figure out what our look, but they're all about the same in terms of pricing. >> So that link you're looking at there, >> that's just on those. >> Oh, right. Oh, those are kind of nice. They're almost nicer than
>> Yeah, I just They are nicer. >> They're nicer. I just >> Yeah, they look nicer than those ones, but those ones I think are like >> a lot better than yours. Yeah, she was thinking that other that next page with like the wood woody look. >> But
>> these ones I don't know how can >> Yeah. cement. >> Yeah. The men slab it. You hold it in plate. >> Put a little U bar over it. Sure. These steel ones have, you know, >> holes already drilled in them to, you know, run up
>> carriage bolt or something better into the concrete. >> Okay. All right. Well, does anyone have anything else? Did we get through all of our stuff? I believe
I feel like the wind has been knocked out of me for the plastic. >> Yeah, that was disappointing. >> I am a collector. I know people that collect and now I know that if I give it to Hiy, it's going to go in the right place. >> Been collecting for like the last two
months. So I got to tell you it's funny. >> Yeah. Yeah. And and are we all feeling the same way? I don't >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. >> Just >> you do. >> It seems like a lot of work for maybe
>> something. Yeah. You know. Yeah. >> Recommending the businesses do it themselves. How great. >> Yeah. Do you do you still have the energy to do that? >> Yeah. I mean, >> I've already visited, but a lot of people are ready. >> I've already visited and they were all like, "Super. We get to recycle our
stuff. Yay." And I I mean, I'm guessing some of them will still be, "Yay!" >> If they're not, you know, >> I just think that we should figure out the style first because I'd hate for them to go forward and then we get a different looking bench than what we really want. >> You mean for the businesses?
>> Yeah. I um like >> if we're going to go with the rubberized one, they can't get that anyway. Well, there's other things that they could >> Yeah. >> Or they could just I mean there's >> put a bench on their business >> or they Yeah, they could we don't have to accept a bench or we could um
>> we could say think you know think of us if you win something or not or just >> but um you know I I see what you're saying like don't don't mention the word bench. >> Don't think bench for them to think oh I get to put a bench somewhere and then we're like yeah that's not the style we
want. Thank you. But no. Well, I mean, and have we decided because I thought you were going to send stuff out that we would then look at. Okay. >> Yep. >> I mean, if we go with their brand, then I think we can solicit it to businesses and if they want to do it on their own, then it matches our style. They know
where we want them. >> The um the other thing that we were going to talk about is just the signs that say native prairie so that it get mowed. And it basically I just got permission that we can go ahead and order them, but I didn't know if the Wii meant me or if the Wii meant we.
>> Well, and I don't know if if you need So, you're asking if we should vote on it or if you want to just go for it because how many how many are you thinking of? >> We got four. >> Yeah. So, >> yeah. Okay. I mean, I just I'm just
trying not to step on anybody's toes or anything. I trust you to pick it out, but if you if it's hard to pick out, then you could reach out, >> right? >> So, what fund would that be coming out of? Would that be coming out of our $2,000 fund? That would be you would be
working with Kane to pick out a sign. >> Okay. It come out of last year's budget. >> That already passed. >> So, so I'm talking to Kane about these. You just find the one you like and order it and have them order it.
>> Have Yeah. Have the city order it, right? >> Yeah. Have Kane order it. Y >> or have Kane. >> It will come out of his 2025 budget. He had leftover money and so we can carry it over because we planned we were doing that before the end of the year. So, we
can carry that over. >> What kind of reservations are we all having about which bench to pick? I like the steel one. I think that would hold up a lot better. I mean, I do like the wood look. They look nicer, but I think for what we're trying to do, I do
think that would be easier for maintenance. >> With me, it's down to either, you know, this kind of steel where it's just very industrial looking or that one that looks like it's more it has some nice armrests. And >> I like the armrest, the curved armrest on it. Yeah.
>> The the the prison bench style. I don't know if there's a better way like Venice Beach. >> That's it. Yeah. >> I don't care for brutalist architecture at all. I don't care for it. So, >> no, I don't love that. >> I wish they had a a 5 foot option.
>> This four seems a little little too close, >> but the six foot is sitting on this. You know, you might want, you know, a family of three to be able to sit down. >> Yeah. But we don't >> you don't want thousand feet away, >> 8 foot long bench, you know,
>> you know, but like four is probably going to be good for about 75% of the people. >> Well, what size are the ones like Carol Wilson's? >> I don't know. >> You don't mean these tables are probably what? You
think that's five feet? probably >> calibrated to tell. >> Okay, we got tape measure. >> I'm five and five and 5.5 across. >> So, is that about >> close? That's That's close. >> That's pretty close. >> That's
who was that? >> That's it. It's right >> there. I didn't think it was when I walked down to it. I didn't think it was that long. Maybe I don't know. >> So, I think at Orano Park there's
several different benches. >> Yeah, there are. >> It's not very uniform. >> Well, I mean, it could be. Right. Here's the bench we we want. Lions Club. So, it sounds like we need Dane A and Steve. Where's this at?
>> Or in local park where it's the >> Oh, yep. >> I wanted to say amphitheater behind it, but that's the shelter. >> And that one kind of goes more into align to that second option on the PowerPoint kind of the wood looking one
because I don't think that's a track deck. Uh, >> I don't think so. That is that just wood? >> It's like the recycled wood I think. >> Yeah. It's possible it's been there for five years. Like when I was looking at at benches at um
Pine Island, you know, it's like the with the steel. >> Mhm. >> Just the way that they wear it's like, you know, how long. >> Yeah. It depends if it's in the shade or in the sun. >> All the things. I don't know. But it
sounded like Kane was okay with any hair. the decision. >> Yeah, he doesn't care. He just wants the same look and he said to be concrete pad underneath so they don't have to try to mow underneath it. >> I'm curious to say meaning the same look
for every park continuity. >> So right now we have I believe an emerald green and the picnic benches. So, I don't know if we stick with that, but like somebody said like you almost
don't want him too camouflaged. Is that what he said? >> Because I mean >> then you miss it, >> right? You walk right by. >> Right. >> That's for right next to the camouflage bench. >> I think >> I don't know.
Yeah, >> I believe so. I believe so. What do you believe? >> The picnic tables I think are >> I was going to say I thought they were >> there might be all colors too. >> The green ones might be the ones inside rivers that were associated with the Zimber water.
>> I mean that's the other thing. We can say here's our bench. If you want to pick a different color than the person donating gets to pick a different color. We're going to have lots of different colors. It'll be the same bench but different bench will have a unique story to donate. >> I mean that's the other thing we could
think about. There's what nine ten different colors. Doesn't get to uniformity, but >> prismatic rainbow. >> Pick the color you like the best. I don't >> give them a choice of two colors. >> Yeah. >> Yeah,
>> that's an idea. >> Yeah. And and more on the lighter side, too, I think. Yeah. >> So, are there some details that we'll come up with between now and February or do you think we could >> make a decision today? What do you guys
think? >> Well, we need to figure out locations as well. >> We wanted to do we wanted to choose a bench style and locations >> up to what like 10 locations >> as the kind of the premium spots >> and go from there.
>> So, just brainstorming. We didn't want to include Riverwood Hills at this time. Wanted to hold off on them until we and or a Noco Park. >> I mean, I I don't Maybe we don't need to. I don't know. >> Just throwing it out there. If we don't
pave them, I don't know if we'd want to put a bench. It really doesn't change anything. If he's going to put a slab down on them, >> the whole works. >> There's parts of Riverwood Hills that are paved already. Yeah,
>> maybe the initial benches are placed >> by those. Those would be our priority could be >> Yeah, >> cuz there's >> because you wouldn't want them too far off the trail because then they're trip hazard from the pave trail to the pave
bench area. So you Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So we do have some pave trails down there. >> Yeah. In the back end right here. Okay. What were you going to say, Joy? Do >> you have more about that? >> No, I was just, you know, thinking going up the hill. There's the one going up
the hill. So, you'd want something up there. Um, but I'm sure we have that on the list. I need to >> Yeah, I put just one on each of those offshoots, but you could add more. >> Is that that back one that goes up?
That's >> that's kind of a long draw. If you just had one, maybe he's better than to two. >> Commissioner Don, you may be >> miss other commissioners. >> It's going to take me a while to get
used to that. Yeah. Okay. Um, yeah, like this is the trouble with Riverwood Hills is the residential areas, too. You know, like you you wouldn't want one. They they don't own they probably mow up
to it but they >> you know like can you put put one by the road where the trail starts. I don't know. >> Do we have anything by the playground? >> Yes. Okay. >> At Riverwood Hills. >> At Riverwood Hills. >> Mhm. >> It's a swinging bench in the cypress
trees or it's >> Oh, yeah. In the tree. >> Yeah. They are in the tree. >> Yeah. So, what I can do is um I can send out another email, but I could erase my numbers and just leave the trails and maybe everyone starts to plot where they
think they go and we can come to consensus of, yep, we want one here or or we can bring it up in the meeting and >> say here's our numbers. Where do we need to move them? I don't know. >> Do we know? We don't have current ones
mapped out, do we? No, this is assuming there's no one, >> right? >> Yeah. >> And I think that's something that we would get an idea for, but want to bring to Kane because he and his crew are going to be the ones installing it. So,
I dream of us to walk into a couple of the parks and say, "Here, here, and here for him to say, we're not getting >> equipment down there." >> Yeah. Up in Arnold Go Park, that's just, you know, by each kind of offshoot, but there's benches already there. But maybe you rip them out. You know,
again, if we're wanting um the same look, >> I know that one bench that you took a picture of, wasn't that provided by somebody? >> Yeah, we wouldn't want to take like that that one out. But yeah, if that was donated for someone, yeah, we wouldn't want to take that out. But some of the
other ones that maybe are just sitting there, we could do. >> Right. Well, even if next month we fine-tune which benches we're going to get, what size we're going to get, what color,
then if they're ordered by then we can be ready maybe in March or April to actually say it's going to go here, it's going to go here because you can't really pour cement much before April, right? Because of the
frost and wet and all that. Yeah, we'll need to get like a marketing campaign out for people to do or ask businesses. So, we'll need some time for fundraising. >> Yeah, >> I don't know so many things.
>> The other thing just for awareness is every year the city council um looks at committee assignments. So that will be done in January. Um and people will be >> of this year. >> Yep. So we we will switch and or keep
assignments, but it may not be me. I don't know what that would look like, but just be aware that we'll talk about committees um in January so that we're all um kind of separated and support a different committee in the town. I
>> think that's a good idea to get a perspective. not just sit on one committee all the time. >> Well, we would tremendously miss you though. So, >> I'm not too far. So, but yes, again, I don't want to go anywhere, but who
knows? Maybe someone else wants to take it too. Um, as well that I guess I've never really paid attention. >> Just kind of what do you want, >> right? >> Who wants what? Fight out in the parking lot.
Want them both? I don't know. Rock, paper, scissors. >> Straws. Yeah, >> rock, paper, scissors. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, that will be decided at the January meeting. >> So, we may or may not see you February second. >> Yeah, maybe. >> I should have gave more and then he
said, >> you always fire the council member. >> Oh my gosh. >> I didn't mean that. I didn't mean that. I'm still trying to get over being called the commissioner. Is that for real or is that just
the city gave it to you? >> Here you go. >> Oh, wait. Yeah, they gave me an email, too, to to watch that I was never really aware of. So, that's exciting. >> Katie, >> so I will submit my vote via email
because I will not be here. >> Okay. So, MIA on the very second somewhere south. Yes. >> Or or how where's Hawaii? >> Very far south. We're not going We're not going west. >> That' be okay. Anyone else absent that you know
of already February 2nd? Nope. We're going to move by curiously through Justin. >> Biz. >> Wow. Very nice. Not Iceland yet. >> Oh, >> yeah. We should do parks and trails there.
Yes. All right. Um, I propose to I make a motion to end the meeting. I'll second it. >> All right. And Oh, all those in favor say I. >> I post same sign. >> All right. All right. Carries.
>> Oh my gosh. Everyone, thank you so much for your >> all your thoughts, all the things. Oh my goodness. >> Yes. Appreciate So now,
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