Our first item of business this evening is the open floor. This is where residents can come to the podium, state your name and address, and limit comments to three minutes or less. Would anyone like to speak? All right. Mark Nestrom, 9565 Park Avenue
Northeast. Well, none of this probably matters because we're so deep into this now that it's never going to change. But I'd like to congratulate the city council for getting us on KSTP5 segment. Your tax dollars now. No one will be want to live
here or no one will be able to sell their house because taxes will be nobody wants it. And the fire department that's a debt issue or you want it. So that's just like why even bother with that? But I would like
to know when and how you're going to pay for the second station. People are already up in arms like they're never going to get to my house in time. So I guess you'll have to figure that out. Um
taxes. Yeah. 19% last year, probably 19% this year. Um commercial businesses. Oh, I see there's another car repair going in downtown Odd Seagull, but you know that doesn't pay the bill. So,
and I don't know. I asked your planner last year about that and he said, "Well, it's franchise fees and blah blah blah and we're not close to major highways, so come here." Okay, whatever. So, um, and then when the high school is going
to be built, and it's going to be built here, I don't know what's going to happen then. So, you know, will be the highest per capita property tax in the state of Minnesota will be odd seagull. So, that's just my opinion, but thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Charles Hediger, 9539 Parkington Avenue Northeast. Mayor, you remember last year when you guys tried to get a name in city hall and the citizens said no, forced the
fire department down us with no vote from the citizens. No vote at all. You took it upon yourself and the council other than Ryan to force the fire department on us. And this is what's raising the taxes.
You all should be ashamed of yourselves. You need to stop the fire department and figure out how you're going to pay for it. How the city's going to pay for it. Stop building it. Sell the fire trucks to pay for what's built now. We don't
need them. mend relationship between the the three cities that did do our fire contracts because they did a good job. I live in the far corner up by the river
of 101. You're building a fire station that's six more miles than Elk River Station One. It's going to take them longer to get to my my house than station one. you need to reconsider. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Other comments? Chad Brown, 14340A Street. Good to see Tina here today. Uh please be respectful. We're doing I'm being respectful. I said it's good
to see her. I don't understand why you guys couldn't build a smaller fire department and actually have that money out at least two, one on the east, one on the west of Seigo. The way Otgo is shaped, it seems like you guys just threw a
threw a dart and said, "Oh, whatever." I know you guys did a a uh a survey and found out what exactly would help, but it it doesn't make any sense. And these people, you even said when you guys voted, mayor, you said, "Well, I don't
want anybody's taxes to go up." But yet, you do this behind our backs. And the people that voted for you should be ashamed. And I hope they learned their lesson. Thank you. Melody Breuan, uh, 1768152nd Street
Northeast. Um, I appear spoke before about, um, having conversation with our former fire chief. Um, and it would take, per his words, 8 minutes and 56 seconds to get that is 4 seconds under the cap. In a
perfect world, it's never going to happen. I've since changed my homeowner's insurance to expect a total loss due to these decisions that you guys are making, which my family more money along with these taxes. Um, I I
don't understand why we've broken so many relationships to have a fire station that requires us to have a second one. Um, I I don't know how you guys all didn't see that outside of Ryan. And Ryan, I want to thank you for your due diligence on
this. I know you did everything you could. I can hear it in your voice every time you spoke. And for whatever reason, no one else could comprehend what we're getting ourselves into.
I also remember standing in the public's work building, Mayor Stock Camp, and speaking with you one-on-one during the um open house for the expanded campus. And I asked you questions that were really difficult for
you to understand and sorry, not understand, difficult for you to answer because you kept saying that you didn't have your notes in front of you or your book with you. Um, I work for a large retailer who builds
like all over the country. So, I help them decide their budgets. That's what I do for a living. And I asked you how you decided that it would be $32 million to build a city campus. And you couldn't answer. And you couldn't answer. And I kept asking. And
you said to me verbatim, "Well, we had to pick a number." That lost all my faith. and any decisions that anyone sitting up there right now makes. You're not listening to Ryan, who is the only voice of reason. And you're causing
my family to have to multiple things to be able to stay here and live. And it's really disappointing because we just moved here. and we love the like the people that we're meeting and the things that our family is getting to do and having experiences here, but this is
making it incredibly difficult for us those things. So, I really hope that you guys can take a hard look in the mirror, all these people behind me and what we're trying to say. This is a terrible decision. How can we
pivot? How can we listen to this new interim fire chief with his new suggestions? they're going to be don't do what you're doing. It's clear to everyone, but specifically the three people right in front of me that are here and the one that's not. Thank you.
Thank you. Private Schles 135139 Street. Um, I just was curious as to I know that the laws or the rules just passed about changing the city dump site stuff and I trying to dump my dump trailer, the 14 foot standard
residential, my own personal trailer. And I was turned away twice saying I couldn't dump my dump trailer because it's commercial. There's no badging, there's no stickers, there's nothing else at all period to say that it's commercial. But for dump my dump trailer for my own little waist, I mean 3-in
sticks, nothing crazy. So maybe we need to do something about like actually educating the person that's standing there so that we can actually get rid of our yard waste because I don't know how it makes a difference if I go there four times or I take my trailer there once. I'm not doing it on a regular basis. I'm not commercial but I couldn't even do it.
Madam Mayor, um Dan, do you know anything about that with the the new setup there with Albertville Mayor City? Mayor Council, uh, in coordination with the city of Albertville, we've posted
new rules to the compost site to avoid people that don't live in either of the two communities that are using that site unauthorized and driving up cost for the residents of either of these two communities. So, there's going to be some growing pains as part of that and we may need to adjust the rule.
I tried talking to the guy and he's called this Fritz guy and he's like, "No, it's commercial. There's no badging. I'm a person. I live across the street. I don't have any commercial thing on my truck anywhere. Nothing. Sorry to hear that. Sorry to hear that. I I went there last week, too, and I kind of caught me off guard, but
yeah, the guys there, but like I I get commercial or not commercial, you know. Yeah. What what was happening is there was uh a lot of commercial trucks coming in there and dumping large loads. So, Oh, yeah. Um but everybody else takes an ID or whatever. I mean, I get that part. You go to the other city, they take an ID,
you make sure you're a resident, it's good to go, you know. Yeah. Maybe we can cuz I think Albertville, one of their personnel was um standing guard there on it. Maybe we can get the word out to them. Staff from Albertville. Yeah. Mayor, can you pass this along?
Staff will continue to work with Albertville to make sure we're being flexible on that and and not too far one way uh on this. So, okay. Thank you for your comment. Good evening. My name is Molly Peterson, 99201005th
Street Northeast at Sego. I'm learning quickly and slow slow in this process, but I'm looking back at an article where the fire department was estimated to cost $21 million
and then each year was expected to cost around 1 three with 15% increases year after year. What I have since learned is that with contracting with Albertville, Elk River, and Rogers, the annual cost
for their services serve their different categories is closer to $1.3 million without the initial overhead. Um, I don't know where things sit EMS, but right now for the majority of our area, Elk River has EMS and it is not
taxpayer funded. It's private um and doesn't cost the taxpayer any money. And in some of the language around the fire department, it does say, you know, place for EMS inside of that building. But way beyond all of these things, just
the cost of um property tax in addition to all that homeowners are suffering with um insurance increase. On top of that, values go up every year. We've had values increase every single year. The tax basis increases every year, which
those tax increases go on. The overall principles around operating inside of a budget seem to go out the window with zero concern for your residents and constituency. The median sales price in Siggo last
year was almost $400,000 and it's becoming a very unaffordable place to visit. And my hope or request is that there would be more discernment around how money is spent and remaining inside of a budget. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Nathan Lam uh 15559 77th Street Northeast. I'm a transplant. came here from Columbia Heights with my wife um three and a half years now. We
chose because uh we liked the school, we liked how small it was. It reminded me of my hometown where I grew up. Um and I got the feeling that this was a
very much a bluecollar town, right? And it just feels like that, you know, one 19% increase I I could absorb, but now I'm looking at another one plus another five and a half plus
potential school levies plus uh you know, we all know what's happening in the grocery stores, right? And I'm even I'm struggling. I'm having to buy, you know, generic milk, generic cheese, generic
butter. You can't get more generic than what what that is, right? And it just like there should have been more consideration to
your con constituents, the people that make up the the lion share of what OGO is, right? As far as I know, there's not a lot of doctors and lawyers here. This is down south in the Wtown is where
a lot of those live. So, um it it just feels like there should have been more and I know you can't plan for uh inflation. I I but it just feels like there should have been more planning
involved around uh a budget or whatever, but maybe saying well you know people can absorb a 7% not a 19 not a 20 and that's what we're looking at is 25%.
That's huge. Like I don't I don't know I don't think anybody can absorb that unless you are a doctor or a lawyer. So, it it's it's disappointing and um we're going to make the best of it as I know a lot of people out here are going
to do too, but it's it just feels feels like there should have been more thought for the working people. Madame Mayor, um if I might answer, uh you know, being on council, it's my first year. It's sticker shock to me,
too. We'll talk more about it later, but uh you know this what I'll say now is it's a preliminary budget and we are required by state law to set a ceiling. The final budget will be in December and
between then we're going to work on you know getting that down but it's a law requirement that we have to to set a number but it's not the final and I can tell you there there is a lot of planning and different stuff that
goes in into this. So but I do I do feel everything you're saying I have to pay it too. Thank you. Mike Grace 1296 68 Circle Northeast. Um, as a note to the planning, uh, there
was a fire study in 2017 that said we should have a substation with Elk River instead of starting our own department. And that is not that was never a thing to
uh I heard go through the process during this whole fire fire uh department forming. Never heard anything about the fire study saying you know oh maybe we should consider this. It was all in head
first. Um, and uh, you know, now we're stuck with equipment and I'm going to be living farther away from a fire station now. Even though you say it's going to be better because we're going to have 10 full-time fighters and 20 pay down call
firefighters, but I don't know how that's going to work when you're living farther away from a fire department. And it's a big assumption that that's going to be a magic wand every single time for every single uh
service. That's it. Thank you. Gard Zachman, 6194 Lwood Avenue Northeast. Elk River. You know, it's we the people and on Sega that are going to have to pay for this
whole thing. This city council has not been transparent with any of the in the city. We are told lie after lie by the former fire chief. Where did he go? He disappeared. He
pulled out. Stuck us with a bill that now we got to figure out how to pay. 17 or 19.3% increase in taxes, 5 a.5% from the county.
So, I'm just going to round it 25% off on a $400,000 home. Corey, can you tell me how much that's going to in taxes? That's going to be $1,000. $1,000 out of 400.
How many people in here are going to be able to keep paying that kind of taxes? You know, when you people took an oath of office, you know, accountability was a big part
of it. Lying to the people with an oath is a punishable crime by called perjury. Just stop and think about that for a minute. the Constitution,
you must faithfully discharge all of your duties. That includes accountability, telling the people, explaining to them why, not just letting some fire guy come off, give him an empty full checkbook,
tell them to spend her as fast as you can. We didn't need that fire hall like that no more than the man the moon did. We could have we had a fire study. You guys didn't listen to it. Now you want to spend another $100 an hour up to
$30,000 for another fireman to come in there and tell us what to do with another study. Are you going to listen to him, too? Are you going to walk away say, "Oh, well, we got this here. We don't care."
There's a lot of people out there that are pretty ugly, and I don't blame them. And I don't blame anybody that would take one look at Odd Seagull and say, "Oh, I don't think I want to go there." Look at her taxes. 19.3.
I can't believe it. Albertville 7.17. Monaceel at 8.6. Elk River at 7.4 for 17% and they took it down to 8.97 in Dayton,
6.75 for St. Michael, 6.5 for Ramsay, 6.35 for Maple Grove. Look at how far uh Wright County took theirs down. You're almost $7 million.
6,281,942 expenditures on is a new increase. This city council just approved 1.4 million to spend on our fire department again just last week. When's this all going to stop?
It can't continue. There's nobody can afford their taxes in this city if you're going to keep spending them like you're doing. So, I think it's about time that each one of you take a good hard look at what up there to the people. And I think it's
time to shut it down. Let her sit there for a few years. start saving some money and then maybe open it up again or keep looking for a decent fire chief that knows what the hell he's talking about lying to everybody and you guys sucking
it up like you did with the last guy and then he disappeared like he did. He took each one of you guys for a ride and he took us all for a ride listening to you people and you just let him do it. I'm angry and come up here. My wife
didn't even want me to come to this meeting because I was so upset. But I'm not afraid of it. And I'll say what I want to say because it's we the people that are your bosses. We tell you what to do instead of just going
spending money as fast as you can come up with it. I think you better start taking a hard look at it and really take a deep look and say, "Hey, this ain't going to work." You knew it from the beginning. You took that fireman's
foolishness. He wanted to make Taj Mahal of the world of at least Minnesota because everybody that sees it says, "What in the world is Odd Sego doing?" That's right. A wannabe city. That's what you are.
Thank you. How you doing? Council Jeff Dell 6319 Mason Avenue Norththeast. Mayor or the city attorney that's online. Can anybody What's is there a state statute that says there's a maximum a city can charge the city of Oiggo
for services? For fire services. Yeah. Mayor, council, I'm not sure. I understand. So if let's say city of Albertville, let's say if uh AIGO does, let's say, kill their fire station, fire
department, Albert goes, hm, they just got rid of their A++ credit. We're going to charge you our whole tax levy. We want your four fire trucks. You guys got to pay for rebranding to Albertville. We want your land where the fire department is. We want your land by the white barn. And then we want a contract over five
years at 15%. What would stop them? That's just Albertville. Mayor, every contract a city would enter would have its own terms and outline the compensation for the services received.
So, so basically they go to so if I if they want to do that, let's say they kill it in 27 28, we want 8 million for our tax levy. We get your fire trucks. We get your with the building and that land by the white barn and we want a
5-year deal 15% of your take or leave it. Who's the stop? Anybody can answer that. Even city attorney was online. Can you answer that please? And then more than likely that what about El Griven Rogers? Oh, we'll do it
for 5 million a year too. $25 million a year for fire services when ours is going to be 3.5 projected in 27 15% maybe 4 million in 28 there's nothing
for getting what they want nothing okay then you close it down what about those two fine gentlemen right there what if Ray County goes you know we're tired of that little police station by 8 by8 room there we had one in that building what if they go remember when When I was
count, they wanted five bucks an hour one year. Then they get another five bucks an hour. What if they go, "We need to keep our deputies. We're going to double their pay. Take it or leave it. Who's going to pay for that? You have to vote for that. They don't have to. They
don't have to take it at all." So what I did because you need it. So 4 billion minutes to done. Please be respectful. So when that happens,
who's going to pay for that extra after $4 million? Thank you. Freedom of speech, baby. God love you. If if every council member has freedom of speech online, I have freedom of speech here. Please be respectful to the person at
the podium. So Valerville does that, which they have half the city. And right now, by the time happens, 28 happens, our city will be worth $4 billion thanks to Costco. It's at 3.8 billion right now. Be respectful.
So, thank you guys. Thank you. Zachman 61. I'm up here a second time. Why don't we give just divide odd seag up between Elk River, Monaceel, Elbertville, and let them take care of the whole works and get rid of all
use. Gabe Davis, 6689 Packard Avenue Northeast. Um to your point when the city when Algo Township was becoming a city having the differences annex parts of Aiggo that
was part of the discussion at that time it didn't happen. Okay. You guys are going to vote tonight on spending another $1.4 million on the fire department.4 last week. You guys wasted a million
dollars on your out city go hall project. You that we stopped so we didn't have to have $30 million in bonds. You also wasted a million dollars so we couldn't vote on the fire department in the current
tax levy. You guys are trying to hide hide the cost of the levy by take when you took funds and applied it to the levy to bring it down to 19.3. You also took $50,000 from the gambling
fund that we get and apply that to it. The city administrator has cut everything he could possibly can from his department. So there's no place left to take money. We have been lied to about the fire service. We've been lied to
about free service. We have been lied to about safety. We've been lied to about response time. Our fire ex fire chief, he's took the money and ran. He's totally unaccountable and can't be questioned. This fire department is going to cost us
more money next year. There we are now going to have the highest tax increase of any place in the state of Minnesota. We're going to have the most expensive fire department of Minnesota, higher than Minneapolis.
What you guys need to is all with the exception of Ryan, you all need to resign for being fiscally irresponsible to us citizens. The other suggestion I have is like my shirt says, Bohea. Rename our city to
Bo. Bohika stands for bend over here comes again because we're gonna screw you. That's all you guys do is raise taxes, come up with crazy projects and think us taxpayers are millionaires willing to feed you guys more of our money on fixed
income. We have people that are seniors. We have young families coming in here and they're getting screwed just as much as we are by you guys. So what would your suggestion be to do then? Pardon? I don't finish. You know where are these people coming in here
making the money? I am not getting a 19.3% increase in my fixed income this year or next or the year after. I don't have a printing press. You guys need to resign with the exception of Ryan, the only one that's had any common
sense through this whole problem. It's time you listen to the citizens and stop this fire department and rethink the whole thing. I wonder how many people here have lived here. 69 years. 69 years. I'm
worked 40 years for a company and my wife worked 42. 40 years. You know what's going to do? Take two years for you guys to take my house away from me. When I built my house, you told me what I could build and what I couldn't build. When I built my garage, you said you can build. This is all you can build. But
haul, you have no problem taking my money. You know what my taxes are? $799 on two and a half acres. Explain that. And we're on a fixed income. We're both retired. I've been here all my life. I grew up across the
road from where I live. You explain that. And I want to know which one of you up there and the fire chief is qualified to build that building. Who knows anything about fire halls up there? Who knows about it? I work for Cargill and you know they don't lose
money. When we got bid for jobs, we would sit around and discuss, you know, this is overkill. Why are we doing this? Or we can cut here. You guys just took the top dollar and you went right to the pave with it. And it just pisses me off.
Sir, can we ask can you come up so we can get your name for the record? Brian Mkeley, 7551 Ogrren Avenue Northeast. Just give you a little background. I moved here because I thought it was going to great city to live in. I'm an
engineer by trade in the semiconductor industry. I designed and had a builder been my home. I built it to live in it for the rest of my life. I have zero into my home. Every doorway is 36 in. My walls are 2x6, so I
don't have any breezes. That's the only home I've lived in in this weather extreme that doesn't have air moving without anything open. four years ago because I saw the writing on the wall with the decisions by the
folks that are elected to this city continually raising taxes. And I just want to ask, we build several hundred homes every year. There's got to be more taxes collected from that than it's sitting as a property for farming,
doesn't it? Do you collect that difference every year? I'd like to know what the home building uh increase from year to year gives the city for taxation versus what the property did a farm land.
And uh I've already decided I knew the writing was on the wall. The home I want to live in for the rest of my life. I built it to live in. It's everything's on one level. But four years ago, I knew I couldn't stay there. I've already acquired acres in another state. where I
went with my with my building for my home to that county building, had them speck out my home, what it would cost to put on my five acres I bought in that community, it was less than a third four years ago than paying. And that's why
when I in retire sooner than I want because I know I'm going to be taxed out of my home, I'm leaving the state when I retire because I can't afford the property taxes here in this community that I plan to live in for the rest of my life. So, thank you. But no, thank you.
Thank you. Sherry El Ross 10,084 Kaylor Avenue on Northeast. Um, for years and years we didn't have our own fire department. They utilized, I believe, four different cities
and all of a sudden we have to have two fire departments. I don't I don't and that I have talked to a person at the city and I said first of all
I would guess that most people in the city don't even know that you ordered four fire trucks. Plus now they had a fire chief but there was really nothing
for him to supervise. Because as I understand it, the uh fire department isn't going to be usable until 20 early 2026. That may have changed. I don't know. When I asked about
what fire departments they were going to use in the interim, um Monaceel used to be part of that and they no longer. And I asked why. He said, "They're too far away." And I said, "Now, from my house they're on,
they're 6.6 miles doortodoor. This new fire hall that's going up is, I believe, 15 something from my house. Um, I'm not sure why they hire a fire
chief so early, but that's over and done with." And it just amount of money. And I also asked that same person, I said, "How are all the
voters or the households in the city notified about this fire department thing?" Well, they can come to the meetings or they can go on our website and read the minutes. I said, "How about a direct mailing to every household?" Well, then we'd be
criticized for postage. That's what I was told. That's a terrible reason. We're spending all this money on a fire department and we can't send a letter to every household to tell them what's going on. That has not sat well with me. And I
think that was sometime back in last year, but it just seems like the city is just soaking up money the residents and I've been tracking the franchise fees that you get
that started several years ago. For our household alone, we have paid approximately some dollars and right Henipin is stable at $4.
That's where they started and they still are. Spectrum goes up and up and up. Um, I don't know why this franchise fee is so different, but back in July of
2020, we paid $5.99 a month for franchise fee to the city about Seagull for Spectrum alone. In September of 23, we were paying $76 a month. August five, it's up to $8.14.
And that's just one household. multiply that times a thousand households. And if some of you people back here haven't looked at your bills in detail to see if you're paying a franchise fee, and that's just on two weeks, I'm sure there's money coming in
to the city from other companies also, which increased their expenses because now they have to track it and submit it. It's it just doesn't sit sit well with me. And then I was shocked to find out
they're going for a second fire department. Well, thanks. Thank you, Adam. Can you comment on the spectrum? Mayor, council spectrum franchise fee was put in place in the 1990s. Um,
percentage is based on 5% of TV services that a customer might have, not on phone or data services. So, if your cable portion of your spectrum bill fluctuates monthtomonth or you uh upgrade to a different package or maybe level of
service or get a promotional deal, you're paying that 5% of whatever your portion is for cable TV. Okay. [Music]
Now I know this other Nancy Anderson 9031 Mason Avenue Northeast. We have lived in Oiggo for 40 years other than plowing our street. We get nothing from the city own sewer. We have
our own well. We don't have any children in school which is of course not at Sego. And our property taxes have gone up and up and up. you built that road uh to access the middle except Mason Avenue
which is a very low-level road which we had to fix is now having a steady stream of four and five heavy dump trucks trucks constantly using that road.
This in 40 years of living here is the stupidest thing that has ever happened in a seco. And I would like to thank Ryan for his last email about the facts that you
presented from the person who gave you the information about how difficult it is going to be to get this thing going to hire people. Other fire departments are begging for staff. This is just I agree with the people who
said let's just shutter. It's crazy. Deb Maros 1468284 Street Northeast. What are you people doing to prepare for the homeless population that you are creating?
What are you doing? What are you doing? Where I live on 84th Street is a main drag. They're probably going to tent in my yard if I can pay my taxes to stay there.
What are you going to do for the homeless population that you are creating? coming. They are here and they're in the homes you're taking away now 13355 85th Street.
Just like everybody else up here, I think it's a bunch of [ __ ] I mean, look table, folks. Look around the table and take a good look at one another and just what in the hell are you doing? You're supposed to be
representing the people of Seagull. We sure are not in the hell going on. You people have plans. It's just it's unbelievable. I can't I
can't figure it out. My father moved in here in 19 whatever. I moved to Seagull in 1947 on the west side of Dayton. It was a part of Seagull then.
That's 78 years ago. And I've seen a lot of [ __ ] come and go. And I've seen a lot of people like you sitting up here when AA was a township. They seem to work with it. They were
farmers. They knew how to work and they knew how to work with a company and how to build. But you people just just don't seem to have it. and that many years. I mean, after being here for that many years,
I cannot believe that you don't get it what the people want. I actually think that you're under the gun right now. I mean,
it it's almost embarrassing. I mean, you all should just turn around and take a look and see what in God's heaven name you're doing to this city. cuz you're sure thinking of the people of us seagull. There you go.
Thank you. Yeah. I got a question for the lawyer. Uh you know in the winter time you're supposed to keep the snow away from the fire hydrant. Well, I'm Dale Kohus. I'm going to tell you my address so if there's a fire they know how to get there. 1 14251 Northeast 70 Street. You
go outside my yard left and you try to find that fire hydrant. Then you go through the roundabout by Merlin Blares and you try to find that fire hydrant there because the hydrant's this high, the weeds are this high and then you got a little red pole sticking out. You tell me how you people are going to find that
in an emergency. That's a bunch of bull. If it should be the same rules, I would think. Don't you have to keep it clear so they can get to it? I don't know. And another thing I was thinking back there, a new model for the fire department if it does get built.
We've never lost a basement. You know what this reminds me of? Tempex him. Except for Ryan was saying you're just like him. Take the money. Take the money and piss it away and let and pay taxes and make the people pay taxes. Why? That's greed. I
don't know where you people were brought up, but it sure in the hell it wasn't the same breed we are. You're just fakeies. I'll tell you. I don't know. This building back here you just built. How much did that cost you? Don't tell me you didn't know because everyone on board. What for?
What is it? How much it cost you? Ameilia. Well, don't look at me like I'm dumb. I'm asking you a question. Ryan, you're in public. You're talking about the shed back there where you're cold. Yes. Helpers were scaring snow. 1.4. Is that a good number?
That's correct. How much? 1.4. Yeah. That's That's nice. You needed that before the fire department. You just piss that money away wherever you can get it, can't you? pay put up because your guys can't let their trucks warm up because it's cold
out. Why don't you go to Sharers, a bunch of them other places? Their new equipment sets outside. You don't see them putting it all the way. You got a bunch of pansies like that, like my old man told me, you don't want to do it, get the hell out. But we worked anyway, right through it. And we all made it.
But this is this is a joke. It's greed. And I told the first night we were here, you had that Wisconsin fire chief, whatever the hell you called him. I took him in the back there and I said, "Why in the hell don't you give me the keys to the pickup and get your ass out of your trouble?" And the Krauss Anderson
guy told him the same thing. You got the job. No, we don't. So I called up the city and they said, "You got 15, no, four days to get a bid in here." I called Rogers, Elk River, Princeton, five different fire. They said, "What
are you talking about?" "Oh, a seagull. They're putting a fire department up." We can't make a bid in that kind of now. And didn't I tell you to go to Zimmerman and look at their fire department? $9 million. You know what Dingo Ball said? Your fire chief that was during co it
was cheaper. Now that's a brain, ain't it? That's a brain. Then the next time I came here and argue with him, I said, "You lied to me." I didn't lie to you. I told you the truth. No, you didn't. You son of a You know what? Yes, I called Elk River,
Rogers, and Zimmerman. And there wasn't a one above N. But here you got what do you got different? I know what you got. You got to have dumb fool come here and tell you what you wanted. And you all said that's all you can do here. Every time I look at the paper, everything's Yes. Yes. It's a joke. Don't your dad,
mother and dad ever tell you to teach you how to say no? You got this city so goddamn screwed up. It's terrible. And it's just like you the mess in this city. Why don't you go pick that up during the days when you ain't got nothing to do? There's more
trash on 39 than I ever seen in my life. If I had a match, I'd burn. We ain't got a fire department to put it out. But why don't you look at some of that? I told you one time before, get up on and 101 and drive 3/4ers of the way to Z
to what's the next town here? And just look at the [ __ ] in the ditches in that cars, nine cars, trees tipped over. What what are you going to do about that? Or you just got a fire department on your mind now?
and that fire department. A good thing I can do is but give my brother maybe a couple thousand dollars and buy some more goddamn pigs and let them spread right there in front of and then we'll see how it go and then we'll just come back and say, "Oh, these guys wanted the pigs,
right?" God, I can't believe you're this low. It's terrible. I didn't mean you either. I know you. Yeah, it's a joke. Mark D from 9565 Park Avenue. I don't know how you people got elected, but I
have one thing. Lies. You're liars. Your old police chief was a liar. He stood here and said, "Oh, they have to come and help us. It's the law." No, it's not the law. You burned every bridge for this. I'm in the Elk River Fire District over there. My neighbor had a fire in
his grill. They had three trucks there in two minutes. Ain't going to happen with your fire department. Heather Durkman, 13883rd Street. So, I guess my question for you guys is, is it are we beyond the no
return? Is there any way that we can postpone this until the city of Otigo can save money like every other constituent has to when they want to purchase something that they don't have the funds for at the time and we could dual purpose that building. Go ahead and
concrete the you guys wanted more storage for public works. Use that as a storage building for now until the city can actually afford to not charge the taxes at 19.3%. Is that even feasible? Is that possible
or are we past the point and no return? We're not gonna ask you. This is this is open forum so we take your comments. But how are we supposed to learn anything as constituents? Because other than Ryan, nobody none of you inform us
what's going on. We're I feel like we're in the dark. You guys just You guys just make the rules and we're just supposed to abide and follow with no say. That's not what a democracy is.
I I I don't understand how you guys feel okay going to bed at night doing what you're doing to the people in this city. Any other comments? M not till 1418662nd Street. All right, y'all were voted in.
Okay, closer to the mic. Sorry, it's very hard to Whatever. Y'all grow up here. Any of you? Were any of you born and raised here in Seagull? Yes or no? No.
None of you. All right. I know a lot. Right. Okay. Last time I seen it's uh 19,966 people is the population in Ango, right? 24,000. 24. I don't know. I just seen the sign.
24,000 people in Ango. made enough room for what? Less than 100 people in here. So, less than 100 people even found out that this was even going on. This isn't even having a conversation. Y'all are making a vote tonight, right? And out of
all the people that found out about it that are are saying bad idea, y'all going to vote what the people are saying, the people that vote you guys in are saying, or you just going to kind of just go, "Yeah, whatever." Anyways, so
we're going to spend that money just like these are questions you all can answer. No, it's open for him. So, we let you guys talk. Oh, so we get to talk, but you don't got to answer. All right. So, we'll just find out like when the vote goes
through. So, we're just here to talk just to say what we want to say agenda actual answers. It's later on the agenda, Matt. Okay. Well, wait to hear the outcome on this. I I I hear everyone in this room saying this
is a bad idea. So, we'll see what you guys do, right? Any other comments? My name is Terry Hall. I know Corey. Hey, Terry. How are you? Um, I live at 15477 Northeast 93rd Street. I moved
here in 1986. In 1986, taxes and insurance $7 a month. Now my taxes and insurance are 600 a month. And you keep raising. What is the percent? You know, they bite in Minneapolis over
a 5% and you between you and Break County 24%. I mean, come on. and every year. Last year, you wanted to build a building over for $31 million. Ridiculous.
I thought we were going to have some change. You're the bean counter. What's the percentages that we've had over I would say since 2009? 2009, housing, all of the property taxes went down. and
you you all put something in the mail saying we are not going to lower the taxes because we got guaranteed expenses and then and then when how's it again? All you ever did was raise them, raise them, raise them, raise them and
ridiculous amounts percentages that are unreal. Something has to change. Thanks, Eric. Dave Davis, I forgot to ask this one question tonight on the news. We had the city
administrator being interviewed when they talked tax increase in St. Paul, Minneapolis, their mayor was the one that responded to the newspap. Why weren't you the person the main person since you spearheaded this fire
department answerable to the press? I wasn't breached. I wasn't. Nobody asked me for a comment. Well, my understanding is they were directed to call you. I don't know if they made that call, but I certainly was expecting the leader of
AIGO to be responding to the question of why we're having the taxes. Hi, Tom Conan 1387 Street. Um, I have to imagine that we're not uh making decisions with malicious intent. So, it just feels like all that's left is
either ignorance or incompetence. If you to hearing what people have to say about what these decisions that you guys have been making over the last month, weeks, years, it's not received well. You talk to a lot of people out in the city, if you were just to knock on doors and say, "How do you feel about
this?" I think you're going to feel a lot more of this sentiment. Um, frankly, a lot of us vote with our wallets and this will definitely impact that for sure if this does go through. Um, and then what kind of tone are we setting for companies that are looking to open
businesses here when we have a nearly 20% tax increase? Like what incentives to even come here if that's what they're being welcomed with? And lastly, when these gigantic conglomerates of house builders are coming in here, I mean, the
one that's going over m whatever the gravel road is, they're paving it so the dump trucks can go on those going through the neighborhoods. Why can't we have them help pay for some of the stuff? Like the builders, like we make them pave the road, do curb gutter. Like
they're the ones that are building what we need the fire services for. Should they not? Thanks. Thank you. Any other comments? I'm Britney Arnold at 9497 Parkington A
Northeast. Um, I would just like to say I'm a young family who moved into at Sego in 2018. My hope was to stay here and actually build again in at Sego with my kids either going to El Giver Rogers or hopefully at high school at some point. Our hope was to build within the
next three years. I don't see that possible with this increase in tax. It's going to make me want to go to a different school district around here. Also, I'm in charge of several boards. I make decisions after listening to my board. I do not make a out my board's
input. And what you guys have done here is made a decision without your citizens input. Thirdly, I run or I manage a multi-million dollar budget. And how you guys have been looking at the money is reckless and it is not
smart. I would highly please listen to your citizens like I do with my board members. Any other comments? One more time. Any other comments? My name's Joel Peterson. I live on 25 Park Avenue Northeast. I hate doing this
[ __ ] I hate most of you. Um, if you think about what you're going to be charging us, not only for high schools, for uh community centers, for everything ahead of us, this is what you're going to drop on us when we can barely afford [ __ ] groceries. This is insane. Like,
you guys, seriously, and you just sit up there all smug with your [ __ ] faces? You guys are ridiculous. You guys are all [ __ ] ridiculous. Every single one of you guys are ridiculous [ __ ] and [ __ ] off. [ __ ] you guys. Any other comments?
All right, we will close the open forum and we will move it up to the council to consider our agenda for approval. Does anyone have anything that they would like to add or delete at this time? Madame Mayor. Yes, Ryan. I would like to bring down item 3.3 off
the consent agenda, item 6.1. All right. Is there any other discussion? Madam Mayor, the motion would be Yes, Ryan. I move that we approve the agenda and Okay, there a second.
Second. Motion by Ryan, seconded by Corey. Is there any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. All those opposed, same sign. Motion passes. Moving on to our consent agenda. A motion would be in order.
Madame Mayor, Miss Ryan, I move to approve the consent agenda as amended. Second. All right. Motion by Ryan, seconded by Tina. Is there any discussion? All signify by saying I. I.
I. All those opposed, same sign. Motion passes. Moving on to item 4.1, Kitridge Crossing PUD concept plan. turn this over to the planner. Thank you, mayor. Uh JP Brooks
Builders has submitted a concept plan for uh proposed development of three outlots within the Kitridge Crossings development. Uh that development is located west of County Road 19, Leau Avenue and north of 70th Street. Uh the one outlot has a previous approval for
uh single family detached town homes consisting of 46 lots. Uh that builder has pulled out of that development. So JP Brooks is looking to step in and to assume completion of that project with some changes and then also move forward with two additional outlots within the Quickage Crossings neighborhood that
have been developed since the project was approved uh in 2006. This concept plan application is advisory only to developers seeking input and feedback from the planning commission and city council uh regarding the acceptability of their proposed development within the
neighborhood. uh their entitlement to move forward with the project. They would have to come back for additional applications that would include public hearings held at the planning commission uh with the same notice sent to properties within 350 ft.
As I said, the properties west of 19 north of 70th Street is bridge crossings development. Uh to the north of the three outlots are town homes that were built by previous developers within the subdivision. Uh northwest corner of the
area is Kitridge Crossings Park. Uh and then to the east of the site is undeveloped property that's guided use development. South of 70th Street is land in Albertville that's guided for future industrial use. Uh the proposed development of the town homes would be compatible and consistent with the
character of the existing development in the area which was one of the feedback items that the city received uh when there was a concept the northwest parcel previously for an apartment use. there was objection uh to the intensity of that land use and comment that if
anything develops in the area then it should be similar in nature to what's there today. Um so what's proposed is approximately 200 uh roped and style town homes within the three outlots. They meet all the requirements in terms
of lot area and density. Uh the setbacks are gener generally compliant. We obviously with a concept plan don't dial down and measure exact uh dimensions, but uh staff is comfortable that presented here does comply with the subdivision ordinance and zoning
ordinance. Access to these three parcels is all provided uh via existing streets off of 70th Street that were constructed as part of the initial Kitridge crossings development. In that sense, they were constructed with enough capacity and size to be able to accommodate development of these three
properties as well as the other properties uh within the neighborhood that developed. Access to the subdivision is provided via 70th Street currently. Uh there's an outlet of Kitridge Parkway to Kit or to um to the west and then there will be
future accesses to the north and out to County Road 19 in the future. Uh the developer provided two concept plans. They basically differ on the east side of this block out lot A. Uh the initial plan is consistent with the approved development that has in access to the
town houses adjacent to it via a private drive. Uh the second would change the uh layout to eliminate that private drive and provide direct access onto Kaland Avenue. uh city staff doesn't favor that proposal based on Kaland Avenue extend
out to County Road 19 and potential commercial uses basically becoming a connection point between the two arterial roadways. Uh the planning commission felt similarly uh with regards to that as well. Uh the only other issue that the planning commission discussed at length was uh the
transition from the existing twin home that was built by the first developer at Sego Finest Homes and that the single family detach that Central Homes built. Uh they were concerned about placing these rural town homes directly adjacent to them without any transition that
would result in ager bulkier building next to those smaller units. So that was the feedback from the planning commission that they were left. Uh they also had comments about the architecture facing uh Kitridge Parkway. When it was initially designed, those homes were to front Kitridge Parkway. Now this
builder's reversing uh rear loaded front accessed home. And so they've attempted to dress up the the visibility or the building view from Kitridge Parkway. And we'll let the developer kind of compare and contrast the two. Uh city staff's
recommendation was that the act is consistent with the land uses recommended by the comprehensive plan. Uh the dwellings fit within the area that they're being proposed and that they're similar type and style to what's there today. Uh the site plans generally demonstrate the ability to comply with the zoning ordinance. We did have 15
conditions that we added uh comments that they would need to address moving forward to a preliminary plan application. Uh planning commission reviewed this at their meeting on September 15th. uh so as to ensure there's transparency as part of the development process. We do have that as
a public hearing so that the public has an opportunity to come preliminary stage two and make comments. Uh the main concern was traffic uh generated by the development the ability of streets in the area to handle that which city staff addressed. Um we did provide the draft
minutes of the planning commission meeting for your review and consideration as part of the review of this. Uh but after closing the public hearing, the planning commission voted six to zero to support the concept plan. Again, their primary concerns being transitional dwellings on the west half
of outlaw A of Villas of Kitridge crossings. And then also echoing staff's comment that dwellings shouldn't directly uh calendar avenue from outlaw A as well. Uh Mr. Tabone, Paul Tabone is here from uh JP Brooks uh builders uh to
address the application before the council as well. Does the developer wish to comment? Good evening, Madame Mayor, members of the council. Paulone with JPV Land. Uh we are the development arm of JP Brooks Builders 13700 Rhymer Drive, Grove,
Minnesota. I want to thank staff for working with us on this concept and uh Dan and Ron have been really helpful pulling together different um insights and things as we've gone through the concept plan and I wanted to just provide a little bit more information um in a little bit more detail with our
proposal this evening and also just kind of familiarize the council with who we are, what we do, our history in the marketplace. So, I'll try to keep it brief. I know there's a there's a lot on the docket for this evening. So, we're a local builder developer based out of Maple Grove. Um, have been
around since 2013. Um, we current 19 neighborhoods and 16 jurisdictions throughout the metro. Um, and we've built more than a thousand homes in 45 different communities since our ex or since our inception. Um, our average number of homes is
around 155 annually and actually this year we're on track to somewhere between 180 and 200 trying to grow year-over-year as we um buy more land and develop and develop more homes to deliver to the housing market. Um, and the mission is simple. We really we try to build high quality, well-designed
homes that reflect the dreams of our homeowners. And um, we build multiple areas throughout the metro trying to expand, like I said. Um we were we we've been ranked as a top 25 home builder uh the last five years running and we're a certified uh green builder as well. So
um staff did a nice job summing up what the present or what the uh what the site plan um the first one will be 203 town homes. uh 94 those are backtoback and then um rows are 109 and I won't touch too much on the development regulations
because we have vetted those with staff and we're generally in conformance with the setbacks um separation between buildings and those types of things. So the next slide is the second um uh concept that we came up with 199 homes um so a difference of four overall. Um,
couple of things that I wanted to highlight on this one that that easterly road is gone. We do know that there's some um material shortage on the site. Um, we haven't quantified it just yet. There was a comment made last week I think at the planning commission that we were doing. We're eliminating the road
um purely for I guess economic reasons. That's not necessarily the case. It's a portion of it. I mean, not doesn't consider the cost implications of design. Um but uh something that we wanted to do was maybe open up that that middle a little bit and we believe that
seven um driveways along uh along calendar there would be pretty negligible in terms of what's been planned for the area. I mean there's town where else and so if you go back just go back one slide Dan sorry um we thought that it maybe kind of spaces things out a little bit on that east
side instead of having everything so tight along a private drive. does save on infrastructure install and ultimately public works maintenance as well. So, we'd like to the ability to maybe explore that. We understand that the commission preferred the other one, but kind of working forward as we're trying
to get the site lined up just right and trying to um plan for being able to move forward with potential grading issues, kind of take another look at the storm water and we may need to look ponding as well. So, those are the reasons some of the reasons behind those. Um,
so we can just move through this. So, a couple of things. I'm going to skip the the comprehensive plan stuff because we've kind of talked through it and staff knows what it is and you guys are aware of what's in your comp plan. Um, but there were some considerations that we had to that we had to take into uh
consideration as we move forward and that was the municipal utilities. So, we did talk about that, talk through that with engineering and what's available in the area. Um, and then wanted to make sure that we were connecting to existing roadways and then that we were designing everything to be as compatible with the
neighborhood as possible. And there's some community challenges out there as we all know. Um, the community is currently at a standstill. The original approvals were granted in 2004. It's kind of been at a lull and a couple of different developers have tried with success. um but devel the the
development hasn't been able to move forward due to changes in the market, site constraints and some of the very development approaches. We believe with an attached product that we can move forward and have some success in the community. And so um what we're trying to do is provide that market need for
housing at um an attainable price point and attached product that we see a need for in the marketplace. And then probably the biggest factor that we had to work through was that west side. Um, it was designed to be an a rear loaded product, an alley loaded product. So, we took a shot at trying or kind of dress
up the rears of the town home buildings. And the two words that kind of stick in my mind a little bit were um it was jarring and the commission wanted more of a front porch feel. So, what we tried to do there, if you want to go to the next slide. Do you want me to go to the comparison
that you had? Oh, sure. Yeah, that'd be fine. So the so the Yeah, thanks Dan. So the first rendering that we did um we added some trim, we added stone privacy
fences in between the patios on the rear on the rears of the buildings. And then we took into consideration the mature landscaping. That's also a factor that we wanted the city to that we wanted to to let you know that we we understand that it's important with
those trees along the the street there. Um, and then based on the feedback from the commission, we kind of went back to the drawing board and we had an updated rendering prepared and we added dormers on the top of the roof lines, um, decorative brackets at the peaks, um,
shutters along. And what we actually did is we moved the windows together and then we were able to add that dormer so it looks a little bit more like the front of a home. In addition to the improvements that you saw on the rendering to the left, which is the van board, um the stone and um we added and
on the right side, we added the shed roofs with the decorative. And so this is the rear of a town home, but we've dressed it up to try to look more like the front and give that front porch, that front porch aesthetic that the city wanted to see, and that was so important to the commission. Um one other thing to
note is this is a three-unit building. Previously, I had shown elevations of a four and so we thought about maybe utilizing the space because you have that first twin home and then there's a single family detached home, right? And so the thought was maybe instead of going, you know, 44 34, we could go
maybe 33 44 and utilize a little bit of that spacing so it didn't come across as as jarring. It's the word that kind of stuck in my head and it was it was referenced and I heard it loud and clear and we wanted to let you know that that we're trying to work with the city on that.
So, that's kind of the gist. Um, that's what we're trying to accomplish here. We believe that that with this product, we can we'd be able to move um and ultimately we're trying to bring the city's kind of bring the city's vision to life, finish out the community that
was started long ago and um be successful with the community here in Sego. So, with that, I'll stand for any questions and I would appreciate and feedback this evening as well. I have a few comments. Okay, if I go
first. Um, so Paul, I would agree. I was um here at the planning commission and do have concerns with the Kitridge Parkway and the lane. Those people, you know, have homes. They expected they were getting something very similar to that. And so I can appreciate that you
moved it down to three, but it still to your words and using the jarring, it still seems very jarring to me. If if I'm living across the street, expect there were going to be single family homes there. Seeing a row of three town homes isn't what I
think those residents expected they were going to be living next to. I also had concerns with Kalen. There was a lot of residents that had brought that up about um traffic schools to the north um when that connects over to 19 eventually.
So I'm not in favor of the second concept I guess you would call it where the driveways are coming in on Kalen. I think that road um backs up. We do have to be school being there and just all the residents to the north that use it in the other
town homes. One other thing was someone had brought up um a possibility of you adding a trail segment to get into the loop for the park if you're on the um east development. Had you thought about
that or toying around with that idea? Are you talking about along Kaland there? Um on the west side of Kalen? Yeah, Kalen or having him come in on this private street and then hooking up with the I guess I'm pointing Dan. It would be on that north. Yeah.
Is there a way for them to connect? And I know that the discussion was what does that look like? Because the the lady that came in and um commented lives to the north in the town homes that we're not talking about with this development, but just made reference that people are coming through her yard to get to the
park if they're on that east city. So, I do think having a way in potentially for residents since there is that trail there makes sense. And so, I would support that comment. City staff's recommendation is that there be sidewalks on both sides of Kaland and
then there's the existing sidewalk in 71st Street. A trail connection through the private development creates issues with maintenance as to who's responsible to maintain it. Where is it connecting to? So recognizing that yeah, people are
going to go overland to get to the park. That's just going to happen. But public access would be intended to be on street sidewalks. So using Kalen and 71st, correct? Um and council also just everyone was passed out the correct line. You're
looking online. It was correct in the pack online but not our packets. Any other comments? Yeah, Madam Mayor. Yes, Ryan. I would just uh I think I would echo uh everything the mayor said. I think the transition needs to be a little bit more
uh smooth on the west side. I guess I would say I I agree that plan or the concept that has the drive lane um is the one I would go with. I would also say up on the northeast
corner um of the plan there's the two driveways that are on calendar that are sort of on the inner radius of that curve. I really don't like that. I think that's um that creates some sighteline problems. If there's a way to make that an inner, you know, part of that
driveway network, I think that's a lot better. It might not be an issue over the next couple years. But as that road ex that would be a very dangerous driveway on that inner radius. The outer radius is better because there's better sight
lines. But that one I would say we got to do something about that. You're saying on that northern pulac couple? Yep. Yep. Okay. which I'm assuming that to follow up with Ryan's think that that will punch through eventually. Correct. Someone develops. So even that
east one creates a problem too. It's a through right lane depending on how they curve the road. Yep. Y questions are from Corey. Madame Mayor, um just for anybody who knows, I I kind of wonder what the school traffic is
like this year over there on that road because I the one question I have is I guess it would be the Well, I see the the name of it, but the the road that's parallel to 70th just above it with the driveway that's coming
right out on on to Kaland, the one lower closer to 70th. the private drive. Yes, right there. Yeah. Wonder. Well, knowing my daughter used to go to that school and how busy it was and that was like 10 years ago,
but I've heard it's probably really busy now with with school kids. Does anybody have any insight on that? Mayor, so that intersect spacing guidelines set by the zoning ordinance. Kaland Avenue was designed as a
commercial industrial street. So it's wider than your typical it's designed like a residential collector street. So it's designed to accommodate traffic from the entire development through that. Obviously there's peak demands pool uh is exiting from that area pickup
drop off etc. Um but because the intersection meets spacing requirements and the access onto the street would be controlled at limited points it will function appropriately. Okay. But to piggy back off that, is it that those two roads don't line up?
Mayor, that's something we would pick up as part of the preliminary plat review. Okay. Yep. Just think that's to make sure that they do in fact align. Yes. Okay. That was a concern. And I think we have a I saw in here
about the trails. The trail along 70th. Would that eventually go to Kitridge? Mayor, that's been completed now. That is done. wasn't in here. Okay. Um then what what do you know about the H?
Would it be I'm assuming it would be an HOA. Um by law you have to have one because they're attached. So we would set up an HOA to move forward with the future town homes. Yeah. Yeah. Other comments
then with our comments that we made tonight. Dan, how do you want us since this is just a Yeah, mayor. There is a possible motion included on the request for council action. Um if you just include at the end of it with the comments of the
planning commission and city council noted that will be sufficient. Okay. The minutes will stand. Again, this is informal. It's advisory. So, the developer needs to consider this as they prepare their plans for submission. Does anyone else have any other
comments? Otherwise, a motion would be in order for this. Madame Mayor motion to support the P plan for outlaws G and O Kard's crossings and outlaw A buildas at Kitard's crossings subjects to the comments of the planning
commission from their meeting on 15th of September 2025 and those outlined in the planning report dated 3rd of September 2025 as presented along with council comments. Second motion by Ryan seconded by Corey. Is
there any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. All those opposed, same sign. Motion passes. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Item 4.2 still wild zoning map amend amendment
conditional use permit and preliminary. D. Thank you, mayor. Uh Thomas and Ashley Smith have acquired this 31 at the end of Kaylor Avenue uh south of County Road 39 in the northwest corner of the city. Uh they're proposing to subdivide it
into three lots that requires the three applications listed on the screen. Uh reszoning to A2 district a conditional use permit to allow lots acres in area um less than 450 ft in width. uh and that will provide for the three single
family lots as well as construction and of uh Kaylor Avenue as a permanent culde-sac. Uh so this is located uh northwest corner of the city south of County Road 30 east of Cadler Avenue. Uh it's in urban service expansion area W2
uh which is likely to be 20 years plus away from receiving sewer. Uh so what the comprehensive plan says is that development density should be allowed at one unit for every 10 acres of allowing up to three lots to be subdivided from this uh site. The property currently is
zoned A1 district. Uh in order to allow development at one unit for 10 acres, you have to reszone to the A2 district. Uh surrounding uses included include rural residential acreage lots to the northed fields to the east, southeast, and the Riverwood National Golf Course
to the west. The plat itself provides for dedication of rightway uh to extend Kaylor Avenue from its current current terminus uh where there's a substandard culde-sac. uh they'll extend the road, provide a adequately designed uh
culde-sac turnaround for service emergency vehicles as well as residents. Um there's also uh this roadway would be continue to be gravel uh like the existing segment to the north. City may look to pave it, but at this point we're
satisfied that we're acquiring the necessary culde-sac to allow for adequate access and turnaround. Um the lot requirements, all the lots are greater than one acre. Again, the intent of the comprehensive plan and the zoning ordinance and limiting lots less than 20
is to ensure that uh once sewer and water is available here that properties can be resubdivided with those utilities. Uh there are exceptions to allow for lots between 2 and a half acres to 10 acres if there's topography, wetlands or other conditions. uh the
topography of the existing site, the extensive wetlands, it's pretty difficult to create two and a half acre lots out of this property. Uh the depth of the lots on either side of Kaland Avenue to the north also dictate the depth of the lots resulting within this
subdivision. So, uh two lots on the north side of the property are between two and a half and 10 acres in area. Um, lot three is over 20 acres in area and can stand alone as a permitted lot within consistent with lot setback requirements or lot minimum lot
requirements. Uh, each lot has adequate to provide for a home site in compliance with setback requirements. Uh, they will provide storm water ponding for the uh, roadway extension as well as any uh, runoff from the home sites. Wetlands within the plat will be overlaid by
drainage and utility easements to be protected from intrusion. Utilities will be on-site septic and wells. Uh and then the plat shows all necessary drainage and utility easements for uh perimeter usage as well. Uh the developer is
required to pay park dedication as a condition of final plat approval as the city's not seeking land from this property. Uh thing to note with regards to lot three is on the preliminary plat they did illustrate uh the ability to extend Kaylor Avenue all the way to the
south plat line as well as a local streets being extended to the east. Uh those are illustrative only indicating how street extended in the future of sewer and water are available. uh that decision to extend those streets would be entirely up to the owner of lot three
uh when utilities are available if they sought to subdivide. So it's just demonstrating the ability uh to provide for extension of streets and utilities in the future consistent with the comprehensive plan. City staff is recommending approval of the application based on consistency with the
comprehensive plan and compliance with the zoning ordinance and subdivision ordinance. The planning commission considered the application at their meeting on September 15th. Uh the draft meeting minutes are a couple comments from uh property owners to the north. Uh nothing significant that would impact
the development of the site. Uh and after closing the public hearing, the planning commission voted six to zero to recommend approval. Uh with that recommendation subject to nine conditions as represented in the fact and decision included in your council packet. Okay.
Thank you. Does the applicant wish to comment? Mayor, I don't know that I see Mr. Okay. All right. Questions from council and reminder, you've gotten a new one with updated drawings.
The one on my is correct. Questions for staff. Otherwise, a motion for this item. Madam Mayor, a motion to adopt ordinance 2025-07 amending the zoning map and approve a conditional use permit and preliminary plan for Still Wild subject to the
conditions stated on the findings of fact and decision as presented. Second motion by Ryan, seconded by Tina. Is there any discussion? Those in favor signify by saying I. I. All those opposed, same sign. Motion passes.
Moving on to item 5.1, our preliminary property tax levy. Yes. Thank you, Mayor Councel. Uh, soon as I get my technology going here. Okay. Uh, tonight the council is being asked to consider adopting a preliminary
levy. Uh there's also a resolution in there to adjust uh debt service levies from what they were originally adopted when those debt issues uh were issued. Um then the last item would be to set the truth and taxation uh hearing tonight. So uh slides were included in
the packet and in the online version uh of the agenda materials. So preliminary levy is the estimated amount of money the city plans to collect to fund budgeted expenditures that are not covered by other funding sources. Uh this amount is used for truth and
taxation notices. Those will go out to residents and property owners in the community and are sent out by Wright County. Uh county and school district taxes are also included on that notice. So there is a number uh there are three different taxing authorities uh as part
of that TNT notice. Again the final levy can be less but it cannot be more than what the council would consider adopting at this stage. Budget and levy meetings thus far uh council what's it is representative of the discussion held on September 8th. Uh
council's had about 8 to 10 hours approximately of budget and tax levy review meetings up until this point. Uh once we get to the end, we'll outline what the remaining budget process looks like. But here's a visual on that timeline. The preliminary levy uh pie chart on the
left showing the proportional pieces, all the different parts of the levy. Uh break it out into four different pieces. The general fund covers day-to-day operations. Uh tax abatement, debt service, and capital projects. I'll explain in the next few slides. Uh the
chart on the right just shows comparison increases from 25 current year to 26 preliminary levy. Uh general fund again covers most day-to-day operations other than water uh and utilities. Uh the preliminary
levy is 7,581,000 an increase of 581,000. Uh some of the major factors in this budget that are driving the levy increase uh 2026 is an election year. So there is a cost to host the elections there at 76.
Contracts for law enforcement and fire protection uh also increased from 25 to proposed 26 at about $310 to $20,000 on those two contracts. And then uh we do have staff positions for
uh information technology, human resource and uh phase staffing hiring for the back end of 2026 as the fire department uh would potentially begin operations. Uh tax abatement levy of8624.
This is an increase of 21,000 over the current year. Uh so the city invested approximately 950,000 in public infrastructure um and we did partner with the uh county right county did partner and they are reimbursing the city 400,000
uh of that 950. So city is essentially repaying itself for infrastructure investment and that should be done in 2028 debt service uh preliminary levy of 1,631,000. This is an 1,341,000.
Projects financed through the three bond issues that the city has outstanding would be fire and emergency service facility. Uh 2018 road improvements uh done for different neighborhood projects and also for Cadler Avenue and then seven road improvements for
reconstruction of County Stated at Highway 42 and also uh Queens Avenue construction east of Highway 101. The last uh grouping of levies is for the capital improvement plan. So the preliminary levy of 1,884,000.
This is actually a decrease of 130,000. Uh the investments that uh these levies go towards would be for parks and trails, uh maintenance and construction of city streets, vehicles and equipment, buildings and property maintenance. uh
in those categories. Tax capacity uh this will come into play here in a few slides but the market value of any property within the city is multiplied by class rate that is set to the state legislature uh which determines tax capacity of an individual
property. Uh some of the comments during the open forum, we're talking about, you know, as the city grows, why is there not more revenue? Uh the the revenue that comes in with the tax levy is set at a certain point in time. That's in and that's the same amount that the city
will receive in taxes whether there's zero new homes built or if there's 300 new homes built. So the the city council sets that levy amount in December. That does not fluctuate with building uh activity throughout the year. tax capacity is what comes with uh in the
city. So the proposed preliminary tax levy is 11 million 26,138 divided by that total tax base of the city at just over 40 uh gets us to a tax rate of 27.78.
Uh illustration here to show where the city of Atgo is currently. Uh on the left side of the chart, the salmon color is our 2025 tax rate. Uh the green color uh third uh from the left what the
preliminary tax rate is for 2026. This is still uh will fluctuate with final values from the state and county assessor's office. Uh but does give you a visual as far as where the city's tax rate proposed in 26 is compared with the
balance of Wright counties. And then those numbers are based on 25 for those other any any of the blue bars, mayor, are 2025. I I don't have proposed tax rates for the other communities. Finally, a calculation based on value
home within the city of Seiggo. So very bottom line, you see about $178. So median value home increased uh in 2026 from 386,000 to 402. This is obviously an example. There are homes
above this dollar amount. There are properties that are below this dollar amount. This is the median. Uh so again, $178 would be uh the increase for the city taxes only on a $42,000 property.
Looking forward uh we'll have additional meetings on capital improvement plan uh more focused on the expenditure side of those equations. Uh the utility fund budgets uh what the fee schedule is for 2026. Uh we'll host a truth and taxation meeting and final budget and levy
adoption uh sometime end of the year. Council, I can answer any questions, uh, review any materials in your packet, but again, there are two resolutions for you to consider and also setting the date of the truth and taxation meeting.
Questions from the council Adam's presentation. Adam, can you go more into um, you know, picking like a $400,000 $300,000 what the tax increase would be per I
don't know if you want to do month or year or whatever mayor I I have the median value uh calculated within the slides I I don't have examples of what any variety of other values would be. So gen a home is
above the median value, you could see an impact greater than the $178 per year. If there's a property below that threshold, um percentage wise, it's going to vary. It can vary widely. If a
home increases value by 50% or whatever number is, that's going to swing that thing wildly as well. So, okay. Whereas, if you had a home that stayed the same value from the current year to the next year, that's where you would
see that 19.3%. Adam, can you also discuss um like tonight this is our we're setting the pulmonary but we cannot go up. Can you explain that to the residents maybe understand that? Yeah, mayor. So statutoily the
preliminary levy is the highest a point that the tax levy can be. So the city council over the next 3 months has uh numerous budget meetings uh that will be hosting uh to attempt to bring that number down uh to some uh in line with what the council is is hoping that final
number will be. But uh certainly the levy cannot go higher than what the council would adopt this evening. Right. Madam Mayor, Adam, I was wondering if you can show, you know, um on the estimated taxes calculation
kind of what Tina was after. I think um like we're showing the 19.42 42 just for the heck of it to show like if it was 17% what the change would be to
the median home value. This this isn't a live active worksheet. I I can't plug in numbers and make changes visual what what that would be. Okay. On once a property gets over 517,000 the homestead market value exclusion would
be completely. So right right here in the center of the screen you still see that u properties in this value range are receiving a reduction based on the homestead market value exclusion. So their taxable market value
is different than what the um appraised value is of a product. taking into effect the class rate. Again, this is set by the the Minnesota State Legislature. Properties over 500,000 uh there is an additional 0.25% applied
to uh that value for tax capacity purpose. Um once you have capacity, you multiply that by the city's tax rate. The city's tax rate is essentially the the amount of the levy divided into the tax base as
a whole. So we city is proposing to tax about 27% of the entire tax base and spread that out over that was yeah correct and just uh to kind of go over it again
you know this is the city's side of it you know we have the three tax authorities um we kind nice to have a pull up one of the Wright County properties just look at how that plays out. So
maybe people could if they don't understand, you know, look at a Right County property tax statement like visually what they look like. Yeah. And just how how this plays into it.
You'll have to bear with me. This might take me a few minutes. I was not prepared for that. What's your address? You going to use me? Uh 795 Palmrren Avenue. this what you were hoping to see? Yeah. Just so maybe can can you kind of
explain that in the block I guess 6 through 12 what that kind of how that works? So this is the tax statement. This would not generally the truth and taxation statement is going to look very similar. It is laid out slightly different. Um
and it is again estimated taxes because those are sent out before the councils adopt their final budgets. Uh property value information will typically be in the upper right hand corner comparing current to a previous uh or current to a feature year.
Uh and then down below there are different components. So uh the county portion uh would be here. Uh the city of Adiggo portion would be there. School district is broken into two amounts based on the type of levy uh that were
adopted as part of those referendums. Uh, and then if there's actual taxing districts, uh, we don't have any of those within our community um, at this time, but there might be a lake improvement district. If you have lakefront property, that is something
that would potentially show up there. Economic development authority tax levies would show up there. Uh, so again, visuals showing the different components and the different taxing authority. Thank you. So, and and so this preliminary levy is just
It's it's just showing just the cities. It wouldn't be affecting the counties or the the school districts. I just what what you as the city council are doing affects the city property tax line item. What the county board or the
school district board does would impact their respective line items on that statement. Correct. Thanks, Adam. Right. Other comments this evening? Um to your to your um screen, Adam on
page 11. I do also have some other tax rates and these are on 20 because I thought they were important. They are neighbors too. Um tax rates Elk River are 39.52. Rogers was 38.6 or 767.
Ramsey 46.032 Anoka 41.75 and those are the tax rates not you know comparable to ours which was 24.32 proposal of 27. Um there was a resident
tonight that um had numbers that they were talking about with other cities with preliminary. One number that they didn't include is is Rogers for example and they have a 14.6 6 preliminary budget that they're proposing also. Um, you know, when you
look at their community, it's the same as we're growing. We have things that to tackle as the city grows here, too. So, um, we're we're in a hard spot and we
respect that. We're all taxpayers up here, too. are my comments for right now. Does anyone else have any comments? Madam Mayor, I would echo that too. You know, being a growing city, you know, we're averaging 1,200 people um every
year over the last five years, you're going to need more infrastructure. You're going to need staff um you know, to offer more city services. So I think any growing city is is is going to
have to increase to some extent your budget each year. Comments were made about inflation. I mean that's that's affecting us also goods that we buy at the city. So we're we're impacted by that also.
All right. Other questions or comments? We have some items for and they could be done they should be done separate since they are there's three of them and need to pick on the third one when we're having our proof and taxation.
Mayor, I'll make the first motion. Okay. Or do you want me to make all of them, Adam? Mayor, I think individually would be the best course of action. Okay. So, motion to adopt resolution 2025-46 adjusting the 2026 debt service property
certified in the original bond resolution. Is there a second? I will second that motion by Tina, seconded by Jessica. Is there any discussion?
Madam Mayor, every dollar of this year's property tax increase comes from one decision. Starting our own fire department. That's not an opinion. That's fact. Our debt payments jumped 462%
to pay for the fire station lease. Nearly every penny of our debt increase belongs in the fire department column. Almost threearters of the jump in our general fund is the same story. We had to add new IT staff and HR staff only
because the fire department increased our workforce by 30%. Weren't planned for years, but now they're needed just to keep up with the new workload. We knew the sheriff's contract was going up. They told us two years ago. Acting like we need emergency funds to cover
that expense is dishonest. We can't point fingers at the county or the cities did this. We burned the bridges with our fire service providers by trying to bully them into free service. It backfired. A 30% contract increase isn't them
taking advantage of us. It's the cost of our own reckless decisions. We promised that firefighter pay would be in other cities. Instead, our plan pays double. That forced Albertville to raise their
pay just to retain staff, which in turn raised our fee. We basically bid against ourselves and lost. Now, OIGO taxpayers have to foot the bill for our game of chicken. The League of Minnesota Cities says a
balanced budget means revenues cover expenses with reserves for the unexpected. But these costs were not unexpected. They were predictable. We've maxed out the credit card and now we're digging in the couch cushions to hide the bill from the taxpayers.
Using one-time money to paper over permanent costs isn't balancing the budget. It's driving us straight towards a fiscal cliff. For those who thought a city-owned fire would be cheaper, look at this tax bill and expect another one next year.
Without rating reserves, the increase should have been 22%. That's the real price tag. And for what? The fire study told us that this plan gave us the poorest per residents are going from seven stations down to one.
Slower response times, lower quality of service, higher taxes. But hey, at least we get our logo on the side of the truck. Other city departments made cuts to try to soften the blow. I appreciate, but it only proves two things. One, without the
fire department, property taxes would have gone down this year. And number two, we can't afford this. This increase is unjustifiable. I will not support it. Great, Madame Mayor. Um, just a couple of
comments on that, Adam. Um, with our staff and HR hires or our plan for it, is that accurate what council member Dunlap was saying that it's
originating from the fire station? Mayor, with any position, there's certainly crossover between departments. In my personal opinion, would I say that those positions are driven solely by the fact of a fire department? No. Uh, are
there factors of the fire department that would impact those departments within the city? Having an additional facility, having additional IT equipment, having additional vehicles, uh certainly is something that is supported by these positions that have been requested.
Thank you. Um secondly, um has the average increase overall to uh fire services with our three cities who've been great, has that been 15%
increases by each contract? Mayor, council, I don't have those percentages off offhand. There's been an increasing trend as budgets and growth within our own community drive factors of those contracts, whether that's call
volume or tax capacity or inflation or them uh increasing their own budgets to provide the level of service for their community and our community. Those are all factors in those inflators, right? But yes, they are on an upward trend. uh
over the past handful of years. Thank you. So, I guess I can I can appreciate some of what you're saying, Ryan. But I think what the problem is, you know, we we're dedicated to having these fire
service contracts we have for years and our providers have been great, but they all have their own budgets and residents needs that they have to support first. And without having a fire station or some plan here, it leaves AIGO at risk
because we're tied to these short-term contracts which all of residents pay for. And we have no control over the dollar amount. And so I don't think this budget the
fire station I think is trying to stabilize you know our budgets over the next few years. Any more discussion? Madam Mayor, I think I would just respond to that by saying we have no control over what the budget is today.
The fire department costs have escalated far beyond I think what anyone had anticipated. So the idea that we have control over it. No, not true. We have a motion from Dina, seconded from Jessica. Is there any more discussion?
All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. All those opposed same sign. Hi. Hi. Two to two. Adam, comment on Mayor Council, you need to adopt preliminary levy. You need to advise me
on what you need to adopt. Like to schedule an additional meeting to do that. This has to be by September 3rd. Yeah, I guess I would, you know, when I first saw the numbers, I'm like everybody else, sticker shock. You know, I ain't
made of money. I thought I saw 22%. And I thought, you know, this is kind of a communication tool. I think the prelim preliminary um levy amount talking to people and I thought this is not going
to send a good message. But I mean at the same time we are city um I would be more comfortable starting from let's say 15%. And working our ways down
and what would to a worksheet that we looked at last time. Yeah, we also had that's taking when we were at our last meeting, Adam asked us all for input and
we all said that they're we were open to those numbers but feel as though starting at that when taking away funds from the beginning that are in our capital accounts made sense until we worked through each of those details.
Um, can you pull up a page? I can hear that. I'm sorry. Don't have it ready, Mayor. So, that's going to take a little while. Sure. Madam Mayor, I can probably save a discussion because there is quite literally nothing we can do. that the
debt service levy includes $1.3 million for the fire station. Unless council members are willing to say we're not making that payment, there is quite literally nothing we can do.
Well, there would be use of onetime fees. But again, your so your your proposal was is to not make the payment and ruin the city's credit rating for years to come for all borrowing for any projects we have to do right now in front of me was to approve
the debt service levy and I said no. Yeah, the point of clarity the the motion was for resolution 202546 which was adjusting the debt service property tax levy. So reminder 2025-46
is adjusting the debt service levy from what was originally sent to Wright County as part of that bond issuance. If we were to follow that, the city would be levying $413,56 as shown on the screen. What's being
proposed with the preliminary levy for those two bond issues is 292,314. The fire station piece is not here. That's included in the levy. It says not part of this resol. So essentially, you're reducing the levy from 2020 from
307,000 down to 186,000. So this is not adopting the preliminary levy. This is a procedural thing saying that you are levying less than what was originally planned for you. This was not something that was
controversial as part of any previous budget meetings to reduce the levy to what's being shown here. There's a separate resolution in the packet to set the preliminary levy 2025-47. But where does the 1.3 come from? Is
that straight tax levy then? Yes. All of this is tax levy. Yeah. But you're not adjusting. You don't have since it's gone through the EDA. You don't have to adjust the the debt service levy with the county for 2024. You're you're not also adjusting it
because you're levying what was originally proposed to be levied. This is done to show that you're changing it from 307,000 down to 186,000. Got it. Does everyone understand that? Yeah, maybe that.
So motion failed previously for item B of 5.1. Can I answer any additional questions on this particular item? Any questions for you on this one?
We voted no. Kind of misunderstood, but um so this is 202546. Yes. Right. Yeah. Okay. This one. Madame Mayor, I'll make a motion to adoption 202546 adjusting the 2026 debt
service property tax levy certified in the original bond resolution. Second. Point of order. This motion fails. We can't reintroduce it. Like is Dave on here?
Mayor, the motion I think well first of all I think Corey indicated Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Sorry. I think Corey indicated that uh he he misunderstood the previous motion, but more to the point uh the the prevailing side can renew the motion and
Corey was actually I mean there was no prevailing side but uh I think this motion can be brought again. Okay, we have a motion by Corey, seconded by Tina. Is there any
discussion? And again, this is for item 2025-46, lowering levy. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. All those opposed, same sign. I.
Motion passes 3 to one. Okay. Next item would be in our 2025-47. Comments on this mayor. As included in the packet, here is resolution 2025-47 outlining the levy of 11,2,138
showing all the different components including general fund revenue, tax abatement, three bond issues, capital improvement levies, and use of fund balances. Mayor, I guess this is where my comments would have been more appropriate.
Um, I I guess I would like to see if there's interest in lowering from 19 three. Madame Mayor, I'd be interested in getting it down to zero, but in order to do that, we'd have to say no to the fire
department. What other cuts would you recommend, Corey? here when we went through the budget. We have onetime fees or we delay hiring. That was options.
um possibly transfer funds taking it from from I don't have them in front of me but we talked about them from different and to get original we did take but we did already transfer money or
talked about covering that correct mayor council you had those discussions at the September 8th meeting uh staff prepared this resolution based on the conclusion that at least the majority of the council members um
I can pull up that material. Um again, this is the preliminary levy. This is not the final levy. You have all of the ability in the world to reduce it from 11,206 number you feel is most appropriate and represents the budget that you need to
fund in 2026 by that final levy adoption. also comments. I would agree I'm not set on I mean I'm tonight is not my end all be all with that number. We have a lot of work to do
and that's our job in the next few months before to be looking at where those funds can come from and what we can take and what we can borrow. But we also need to be aware that by borrowing ahead we are setting oursel up for the
next year too and we need to be aware of that. Talked about moving three of the funds. It was money that potentially could be some of those funds are renewable so it's not just onetime fee transfers
the gambling money right there was we also took the overage of the 45% and transferred that out which is additional fees that we've collected
and we did then talk about the other fund which was our loan fund basically for businesses that touched. But the other sources if we do take from that, we need to be aware of what other funds and what other projects the city
has coming up because if we use all of our money in our reserves and the county with projects, we owe a portion of those. Where does where is that funded from? And mayor, I would just say it's worse than that because if we try to raid even
more than we already have, try to raid our other funds. That money won't be there next year. That that is a fiscal cliff. Our objective is to get to a balanced budget. And even taking the 22152
that we're using to try to get this down is a bad idea. It's dishonest. I don't like the fact that we've done that. Now, try and even do more of it. We're just setting ourselves up for failure next year.
Mayor, council, the the 220,000 is sourced from lawful gambling funds, which Minnesota statute outlines how cities that collect those fees can be used. Intent behind that is to offset law enforcement contracts, which is a
viable use in statute. So, dishonest, no. Is it past practice? No. either uh the other is local funds within the general fund. So we have a fund balance policy that says of any given year we try to have a fund balance of 45% of the
following year's budget. Why 45%? The city gets tax settlements twice a year. So we are essentially saying we we want to have in reserves within our general fund the ability to operate for six months until we get our next tax settlement in order to operate for the
next six months. So if there's amounts in excess of that, the council has the discretion to use that as one-time monies to reduce the budget or pay for other expenditures. In this case, they are applying it towards the tax levy to reduce the impact. That's the 220,000.
More information on those two items. Mer I would just say that the reason that I think it's not honest to use gambling funds to try to reduce the levies because we have no specific purpose for it. We saw the levy said 22% is will freak out. Where can we pull
money from? Uh how about this fund? Gambling fund $50,000. Okay, that'll help. That's not a specific purpose. All that is doing is saying we know this is going to be too expensive. We got to figure out a way to make it look not as bad as it is.
But it's our job as council members to be going through every line item in all the budgets, which is what we did. We should have done that last year. Yes. and we're continuing to do it. We still have a few months before we have to set the final
levy and it's our job to evaluate what accountants could help lower this for our residents. We are a growing community. We again we have all of these needs in our community that we need to figure out how to fund and find the
balance to it. we can kick a can down the road and and end up where taking money from these other funds to try to offset the levy is quite literally kicking the can down the road because next year the the levy will be
even higher and we won't have any funds to try and offset it. Next year will be even and I'm talking about being responsible with public safety with projects we have in our city.
That's part of being in a city, Ryan. So, all right, discussions. Thank you, Adam, for covering. Thank you, Adam. We are faced with um a decision here.
Again, we have a few months to figure out and to lower this. This is setting the maximum to go out to residents. does not mean that this is the end of it or you have proposals or um I'm not hearing much movement I guess
but uh I guess since it's out there I'm going to make a motion to adopt resolution 202547 adopting preliminary property tax levy for taxes payable in 2026. Second motion by Corey, seconded by Tina. Is
there any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. All those opposed, same sign. I motion. Okay. Our next item on Mayor one additional piece on this item.
Get back to my memo here. you do uh do need to provide notice to Wright County as to when the truth and taxation meeting will be so that they can include that on the notice that gets mailed out. So uh it cannot occur before November 25th. It
cannot occur after December 29th. Uh the meeting cannot start before 6 pm. Uh so those are essentially the guidelines you have to work with. Uh typically the last meeting of the year would be uh Tuesday of December. This year that falls on
December 8th, 2025. Staff proposed either December 1st or second uh for scheduling that meeting at your discretion. Council, what evenings are you guys? I'm uh I'm pretty flexible.
Works for you guys. Do we know there mayor? We don't know if we have agenda items. Um, okay. We can adjust the schedule accordingly. It be unlikely that we think significant right from December 1st, December 8th
anyway. Um, so anything would be held up until the first council meeting in January. So if the council prefers that night, we can just cancel the planning commission. I'd also I mean I'm open to Tuesday, too.
I think if you have people that are interested in coming either one. Let's do Tuesday. Tuesday. Second. Yep. If I can get a motion for that, too, just for the record. Okay. I will make a motion to host the truth
and taxation on Tuesday, December 2nd, starting at 6. Does 6 p.m. work for everyone? Yep. 6 p.m. Is there a second? Second. Motion by Jessica, seconded by Tina
for December 2nd, 6 pm here in the council chambers. Is there any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. All those opposed, same sign. Motion passes. Moving on to city council reports and
updates. Item first item, heritage preservation. Then we'll get to you Ryland on your 61. Sorry, Ryan first. No, we'll do this first. Okay. Sorry. Thank you, mayor. Um, last OPC meeting, um, they were preparing for the
festival. I heard it went really well. Further updates. Okay. Um, Park and Recck Commission. Michelle is not here, but guess I we Three of us were Yeah. Yeah. Three of us were, but Cy, you were the Lisa. Yeah. So we uh I guess regrand opened
the uh car. It's a beautiful park. One of our best I think. Uh they did a wonderful job. So perfect. Planning commission Ryan. Uh Madame Mayor, the planning commission
reviewed uh two of the items that we approved tonight. Uh the Kitridge crossings and Stillwell. We still have uh Queens Avenue industrial um application that will come to a future council meeting. Next is public safety. Tina, you were
not there. Um we discussed the upcoming fest that was kind of a theme for all of these meetings. Um we also discussed um they Michael Scott. So they had asked a few questions about that and then uh Wright County gave updates. Um they are
do planning to do the cleanup before the next meeting and then start their regular. Okay, moving on to item 6.1. Ryan, do you have to hold that item? Yes, madam mayor. I pulled this down just so there could be a separate vote. I oppose this action because our city is
able to receive excellent service from our existing contract providers at a price point that is costefficient taxpayer. Uh if approved, this action would bring the total spent to date for our fire department to $7,713,32.71, which is over 5 and a half times the
cost of contracts. The amount being considered tonight would cover an entire year of service from our contract providers. Madame Mayor, yes. Make a motion to approve pay application number nine in the amount of $1,431,93869
for work completed on the fire and emergency services facility project. Second by Corey, seconded by Tina. Is there any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. All those opposed, same sign.
I motion passes 3 to one. Moving on to item or city council reports and updates. Does anyone have anything? Um I would just like to give a huge
shout out to all of the staff putting the park back together. anybody that helped with the festival this event. Um, lots of positive feedback and to feedback from Corey saying Carrick signing is a beautiful regrand opening
area with the pavilion and you can go kayaking down the river. So, please go check it out. Anyone else have anything? Moving on to staffing report tonight, updates. Item 7.1,
mayor, council, more meeting requests here. Uh 5:30 p.m. would be the requested start time for both. Uh October 13th, South uh water treatment plant project. Uh we'd have A2S representatives uh discussing uh
different components of that project. And then the 27th would be budget review for water, sanitary sewer, and storm water utility funds. against Quest 5:30 start times for both. So the
Do you want two separate motions, Audra? Yes. She'd like two. Does 5:30 work for everybody? No. Okay. All right. I will make a motion to schedule a special city council meeting for Octo. Is there a second?
Second. Motion by Jessica, seconded by Tina. Is there any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. All those opposed, same sign. Motion pass.
That's at at the site or no, not at the site. It's here. Here. Yes, here. Next item is I'll consider scheduling a special city council meeting for October 27th at 5:30. Here.
Motion by Jessica, second by Tina. Is there any discussion? Audra on both of these I actually on all three of them can you make sure that Michelle is aware of these special meetings that were scheduled. Thank you. Is there any more discussion?
Signify by saying I. I. All those opposed same sign. Motion passes. Adam mayor council. Thank you for that. I have no additional updates this evening. Audra. Thank you mayor. I have no updates.
Dave, no updates. Thank you, Mayor. Dan, mayor, thank you. No further updates. Ron, thank you, Mayor. Uh, just some updates on projects that are going on throughout town. Again, um trails, the Cass 42 that's going to be paved this week and
then shouldering and seating to be shortly after that. 80th Street, the trail there, they're going to be grading starting this week. It's probably going to take about three weeks to complete that project. um Odin Avenue water main. We're still waiting on that pressure reducing bulb which is supposed to get
here now October 13th. Uh the four weeks of work to be completed on that. So that won't be done until uh first week of November. And then uh depending on the weather, some of the um restoration
items will might go into next year on uh the county 137, which is actually a county project. Um I did talk to the county today and CASA 19, which is down to one lane, will be reopened to uh both
lanes are open. And that's a mindot project that right now they're painting the beams for the for the I94 bridge going across there. They added that lane for um collector distributor system. Um
so that's going to be done by Wednesday evening which will reopen 19th to full capacity. So ification they're closing it just during the day, right? They've been closing it from uh I believe it's 8:30 to 4.
It's been open. Okay. It hasn't been closed. I I talked to Sarah at the county and complained because of 37 and MacGyver closed. So I called and she dealt with Mindot and it's been open ever since. Okay. So it's been free flowing. Good. Good. There's been a lot of
complaints about that. Yeah. Oh yeah. So they got anything else, Ron? Uh that's everything unless you have some questions on it. No, I saw the fire station got the parking lot [ __ ]
that uh looks good. Yep. All right. Thanks, Ron. Yep. Thank you. Sergeant Alman's in the back. County Sheriff's waiting for him. Patiently waiting.
uh piggybacking a little bit off of some of the traffic issues with some of the road closures. So, um I'll list off some of the stakeholders I guess I spoke to. So, obviously I spoke with you, mayor. I spoke with the mayor, uh Julian Hendrickson. I ended up speaking with um
ended up just driving through some of the neighborhoods. Um you know, the Marlo, the 63s, uh that general vicinity, kind of having some conversations with the residents that are living over there. um combination of a couple different things. Just the, you know, having to take the detours, one of
the biggest pieces. Um last city council meeting, people start kind of creating their own detours, uh different locations. Uh so some of the residents, I spoke up one or two homeowners association presidents over there about unofficial detours and people are
speeding through the neighborhoods. Uh I think as far as a solution for that goes, I'm going to have to try to work with Kevin uh streets department maybe on some temporary signage or maybe just some stop signs. Those are the neighborhoods that typically don't have any stops just simply maybe a couple
temporary stop signs or something in some of them. Um try to keep people honest because quite frankly there isn't speed necessarily as far as the speed limit goes. It's going to have to come off of that visual of you know do we need a car that's going 25 miles an hour directly through two cars that are
parked on both sides but so that's more the issue that we're running into. So, I'm not going to be able to get anybody for like a speeding ticket necessarily. Um, so we're working on that side of it. I was specifically going to um a handful of maybe lower priority calls over the weekend. Uh, maybe some just kind of
close in that general vicinity. There was a handful of like that were going off. Um, just kind of working with uh the fire departments and working with the ambulance services making sure they're able to get through. Um, seems to be okay for the time being. Um obviously when I you know as things
change I you know one day it's you know closed over here then closed over there so so to speak. So um I reached out with the EMS senior director for Alina for the Wright County region Brian Nort and made sure to let him know of what's going on on that end as well as to reach
out to me if any of his crews are having any major issues. Again spoke with some of the firemen make they have access to get through to that point and uh so far they're doing good. uh they kind of just shrugged and said, "Yep, we were able to get through." Kind of using the detour, which is 63rd Street right now, which is
the dirt road that takes the Elville public works building. They're able to get through right now. So, um just kind of slowly problem solving on you mentioned, Tina, there's kind of your road closure here, you know, that's different every day. So, I'm just kind of working on that and try to treat it as it comes and make sure we're not
having any major issues. But, like I said, still trying to get some of those speeds lowered down and try to keep people honest when they're going through. It's frustrating to have to go all the way around through the neighborhoods. So, and per our conversation Friday when I I
think it was a surprise that the roads on both lanes on 19 were one was closed. So, it it was like nobody seemed to have communicated that properly and that I called and I'm like, "Did you know this was happening?" So, it was
your comment was just like, "That's a M mind thing." But I'm like, but that's our that's our route. Like we're they're telling people to go out to 38 to go down 19. And so yeah, it was from both roundabouts all the way to past 70th. One morning when I
was at the gym, I saw the traffic. And so that's when I decided to call because I'm like, you can't have this when we have all these roads closed. People are trying to get to places to work. Bridge to like 70, right? What's that? the I 94 bridge the 70.
Oh yeah, it's not dissimilar then if on occasion we get the uh the trains that do come through up to the facilities uh on the west side of town, southwest part of town in a complete, you know, it it's a
surprise that a lot of times all of us that are emergency services realm uh we kind of have the problems all in the moment because it shuts off all access. shuts off north or I'm trying to get south or whatever the case is. So, um as far as the sheriff's office go just how
everything's centered, you know, the OIGO cars can get into that part of Sego without any issue or the outgo cars haven't been an issue. We've literally been playing it by ear if there's an issue or we can get a car, you know, sooner, then we just make the call on the air and it works out for us anyway. So, sheriff's office has
actually been a really easy transition. So, uh stop by the Emma's Express. guys are bored and they have nothing to do and I feel bad that my favorite gas station in there and don't have business right now because typically they get all the traffic on 60
right well thank you yeah thank you yes and thank you for the update does anyone have anything for this evening thank you thanks all great
else has anything then a motion to adjourn with the order so Second motion by Tina, seconded by Corey. Is there any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. All those opposed sign. The meeting has ended. Thank you all for attending.