could we do a quick door i forgot good evening everyone and welcome to Ovito City Chambers um if I could ask the Cub Cub Scouts Troop 39 from Chile if you guys can come on up and help lead us in the pledge if everybody could stand up
yes come on up right here all right and the flag's right behind us guys let's face the flag all right ready i aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God
indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you thank you guys thank you so I ask you to join me in a moment of silence and please keep our police department friends and family of officer Serrano Torres in your thoughts we're sending them all the love right now so
please join me in a moment of silence okay I would like to call our meeting to order it is April 21st at approximately 6:30 p.m and we have all members of council present so we're going to start off with items one through three which are ceremony item
ceremonial items so if the mayor like to take this [Music] on good evening we are so lucky tonight to have a packed house to recognize and celebrate Amaya Jamie for her accomplishments in the athletic universe
so come on up Coach Getty Coach Adaway and uh let us know all the things she has done she can lift heavy stuff but there's a lot more to than just that all right how you guys doing um so Amaya Jamie is a senior at Hagerty High School
yeah go Huskies um uh just a quick backstory she participated with us her sophomore year her junior year of high school she was slated to win a state championship and she had a season ending injury at the beginning of the season um so she did nothing for almost 11 months
she said she wanted to come back her senior year she started like a week into practice was the first day she had been cleared she completely separated her clavicle um she trusted the process she worked very very hard she's a very intelligent kid she has like a 4.5 GPA
it's probably 4.5 something i apologize um she worked really hard she trusted she peaked for season and it was one of those cool situations where we had no idea whether she was going to win or not till the moment it happened so it was one of the more exciting um times I've ever had as coaching but she won the
state championship beating out thousands of other weightlifters through the process she also won districts and regionals so she's an awesome [Applause] kid and she's going to the University of Florida caner education tell us how much you can lift though i was reading that
in a So she can clean and jerk 160 pounds which is more than she and she weighs like 105 or something and then uh and she could snatch 125 pounds so she's awesome oh well done let's let's all gather
around for picture here [Music] [Applause] you're welcome right so we'll get this back over here for the C or whatever we're calling it now
did I do that backwards sort of we'll move on to our second order of business which is the annual comprehensive fiscal report and I will let Mr boop take this one are you ready uh honorable mayor deputy mayor council
members uh what we have before you tonight is the annual presentation of the financial report for the major funds for the city of Ovito and Annie if you could just please go to slide three and that'll get us started
a couple of moments ago uh Kelly got up and she spoke about the financial statement components and she talked about the management discussion and analysis the MDNA that's very rich that's probably the best place to go if you want to get a highle overview of the city but I would also ask if if you
would uh read the two other sections the notes the financial statements there's some components there that will put you to sleep i will readily admit they put me to sleep but also the required supplementary information and there's a wealth of of statistical information um
I'm sorry the the statistical section there's a wealth of statistical information that's embedded in in that section a lot of facts about the city and also several tables about the water utility so it's extremely helpful to go in there and take a look at that uh next
slide please okay looking at the general revenues the general revenues came in um very strong this year uh the largest revenue that we had was uh the um uh advalorum taxes which was 19.4 million
uh in addition to that we had other taxes other taxes are comprised of you know utility taxes and uh things of that nature communication services tax which came in a little bit higher than we had anticipated followed by governmental or inter excuse me intergovernmental which
is the consumptionbased taxes um for half cent sales tax and revenue sharing and the last thing I want to mention about our revenues is that our investment income came in very strong if you'll recall just a few years ago we received we had annual in uh investment
income of about of about $30,000 this year our annual investment income was 1.3 million and that's significant for us because that goes right to capital that goes right towards those one-time uh expenditures uh that are very difficult to fund from budget year to
budget year if we can let's go to the expenditures next slide looking at this slide I mean it's no secret public safety is the biggest component of our uh expenditures you have police you have fire and then you also have recreation those are the three biggest followed by uh general
government services which are comprised of IT city management city manager's office development services finance um and a few HR and a couple of couple of others so uh expenditures came in pretty much on
target this year uh a little bit significantly below budget all things considered but the department directors did a great job of managing their expenditure expenditures this this fiscal year next slide so we l we explained this slide here in great
detail during our budget work session um I'm not going to go into all the detail here again but this tells us what the variances are from budget and you can see that um you know other taxes came in strong licenses permits and fees came in
strong intergovernmental didn't come in so strong it came in actually under budget and we're watching that line very closely we've talked about this in that line is your consumptionbased revenues and our concern is that with government spending waning that uh there won't be
as much money passing through the economy as there has been in the past so we're going to be watching that very closely as we go forward um and again the other line that came in significantly higher was investment income which about was about a million
dollars over budget investment income very very difficult to forecast especially when you have the volatility that we have right now uh going on in the finance industry uh in addition to that there's always been this forecast out there that they're going to reduce
the um interest rate the Fed funds rate and they have not done that so we've been in constant anticipation of them doing that year-over-year and that just has not materialized and I don't know that it will materialize this year because of the volatility that's out there
uh so we take a look at this slide here looking at at how did fund P balance end up how did it perform we started off the year at 16.9 million um we had a $3.6 million contribution to fund balance our ending fund balance is 20.6 million um
and so far this year we've um we've uh have carry forwards of 956,000 uh the 100th anniversary of 170,000 hurricane Milton reserve for a million50 so we've taken uh 2.1 million out of
that fund balance and basically our ending fund balance as of right now or the issuance of this report is about 18.5 million uh going forward which is 42% of the percentage of expenditures a very strong position
going to the next slide general fund cash balances general fund cash balances have grown quite a bit over the last couple years and again you know we've talked about these in the work sessions but it's attributable to uh our vacancy factor uh our consumption based revenues
due to government spending and and of course our investment income but one of the things that we really haven't um woven into that discussion is the impact that the American Rescue Plan Act has had on our general fund cash balances um
ARPA so uh Mr patrick Kelly has done an incredible job of managing those funds and about $10 million of the $20 million that we received went towards um the general fund general fund maintenance uh capital maintenance general fund capital
items and etc so that definitely had a very positive impact on our cash balances in the general fund next slide so general fund undersigned fund balance very strong position uh coming
in right at about 19 million and equals 53% roughly of of overall expenditures in the general fund any questions about the general fund okay moving on to the enterprise funds the proprietary funds uh they are
performing as planned uh very strong performance this fiscal year uh the large bulk of your revenues comes in from uh services uh for that are provided through water and and and uh and uh and sewer so we collected about
$20 million in revenues uh from those operations we had an investment income of $1.8 million again mainly because the interest rates are have been u so high over the last couple of years and Louis
have performed well and again just like the general fund uh those additional investment dollars go directly towards capital management and things of that nature capital maintenance going to the next slide uh looking at the expense side uh the bulk of the
expenses are for providing the services that um uh are provided through the water and sewer utility administration is is a significant cost but you also have depreciation expense and that basically recognizes the uh wear and tear on all the equipment and vehicles
and um plant that are used to provide the services so that's an accounting estimate that is processed every year through the financial statements uh basically to recognize the use of of those assets looking at the water and sewer
cash balances cash balances in in a very strong position of $20 million strong performance in the water sewer utility however I have to I have to say that even though we have a very strong cash position in the water and sewer um
uh enterprise fund approximately $5.2 million of that $20 million is reserved for ongoing projects and there's another $3 million over and above that that is reserved for carry forwards projects that were um implemented in previous
fiscal years that are that are ongoing so when you take a look at this comparison you know really your available cash is about $12 million and I think one thing that we've all learned is that for the utilities we we have to have a very robust balance because on any given day any given event we can
actually have a very costly repair looking at water and sewer net position net position is very strong um ba uh basically uh our the performance of of the water and sewer
utility has been um been stellar over the last several years next slide looking at the storm water revenues storm water um basically fees for service revenues of almost $3 million as you know storm water is a
very highmaintenance uh uh entity enterprise fund proprietary fund if you will and it's it's very costly the just as soon as the money comes in it goes back out in the form of some sort of maintenance for storm water
operations next slide looking at the expense side the cost of services is significant again they have depreciation basically recognizing the wear and tear on the infrastructure that is um out in service to support the storm water
system and uh so uh those are the two largest expenditures that you have in the storm water system storm water cash balances storm water cash balances u have been strong in the past but again we've kind of talked about the challenges that we have
uh had in the storm water system and it's high maintenance so the minute the cash comes in it pretty much goes up back out in the form of maintenance as you know uh we have uh entertained a uh loan facility to
basically support the type of infrastructure improvements and maintenance that needs to be done within the storm water utility we should be getting the information back on the bids that we put out uh tomorrow and then we will start the uh process of identifying
what the best vehicle is for us to go out and to borrow money we should have something to you um by May 19th on that on the May 19th uh agenda okay looking at long-term debt long-term debt basically um we've paid
off a great amount of debt you know over the last several years this current fiscal year uh we paid down approximately $3 million of of total city debt in addition to that we've talked about there's a couple of notes up there in the very top we've talked about the general obligation note we've
talked about the capital improvement note we've talked about paying those off this fiscal year out of fund balance and I think that would be a very good move if we can do that if that's um authorized by council so good position as far as debt of course as we go
forward when these additional debt debt facilities are issued for storm water uh those numbers will increase by those issuances any questions about debt next slide and again we just talked
about this a few moments ago uh the blue component that you see up there that is the general fund debt that is paid out by general fund revenues and one of the strategic positions that we would like to be in is to be able to pay off that debt so that we can create additional cash with bandwidth in in the general
fund so we estimated that if we were to pay off that debt we would get an an additional $675,000 in cash bandwidth per year so it looks to be like a very good con strategic move down below the green that's the geo bond it has its own dedicated revenue source with the uh
with the geo military lastly last slide what you have here is um our credit rating our credit uh review if you will uh one of the things that took place back in 2008 I don't I'm sure you all remember the
great uh financial crisis of 2008 but what happened back in 2008 basically every entity in the United States government specifically lost their credit rating because they could no longer reinsure or buy a policy to to
bring their rating up to a AAA plus which is something that we used to do prior to to 2008 so it was really really important for us to develop a strategic pathway if you would uh to have our own underlying credit rating so what you see
up there on the board is your utility revenue bonds with an underlying credit rating of double A with standard and pores double A3 with Moody slightly lower but what that indicates is that the city by itself without obtaining additional insurance is an extremely
strong credit risk so and that's due to the the great decisions that have been made in this room by each of you as well as Mr cob and staff looking at the go bond of the general obligation bond that's a double A+ just one notch down below AAA and
Moody's is pretty much rating it at the same rate when it comes down to debt service coverage senior lean debt 3.65 city policy is 1.25 25 uh very very strong uh very very strong position so with that I think that concludes my
report and I'll be glad to entertain any questions that you might possibly have thank you Mr b does anybody have questions i do mayor uh where do salaries fall i saw administration it seemed to me a bigger chunk of the pie than I would have expected i'm sorry say that again where where do salaries for
you public works you if a pipe breaks is that an administration that's an administration yes all right thank you very much that explains it great thank you any further questions no question but a comment very nicely done Mr b so we appreciate your We know it's a big agenda tonight so I'm trying to move
quick doing a very good job of that as well so all right thank you thank you Mr b all right we will move oh you're up next right on time
Mr gin good afternoon mayor and council members um Jerry did a great job I think of reviewing the financials so I'll try to stick just to the audit results and the audit reports for the You talk a little closer to the microphone thank you the year ending September 30th
2024 my name is Matthew Gumo i'm an audit director with Pervvis Graian Company working on this engagement joined by Helen Painter audit partner with Pervvis Graian Company uh you see listed there as well Michael Sandstöm he's an IT audit director as part of our leadership of this engagement he's
unable to make it tonight um before I get into the audit results I just would like to point out that the city participates in the GFOA certificate of achievement on financial uh reporting each year this um requires the city to provide additional statistical information uh additional
information in their ACER as well as a more timely reporting deadline um all in the name of transparency as part of this program the city did receive this award and you will find that towards the beginning of the acter for the September 30th 2023 fiscal
year as part of our audit engagement do we do report um perform various audit reports that we do issue the primary one you'll find on page one of the aer which is the independent auditor's report in this report it discusses management's responsibility which is the responsibility of the fair preparation
or fair presentation and preparation of the financial statements our responsibility as auditors is based on our audit procedures to issue an opinion on those financial statements that they are free of material misstatements based on our audit procedures that we did perform we did issue a clean opinion an
unmodified opinion the highest level of assurance that we can provide as part of an audit engagement uh and towards the back of the um ACT for you'll see on page 155 there's an internal control compliance and other reporting matters this is a report on internal controls over financial reporting and compliance if
there were any issues that would bring I need to bring to your attention there would be uh potential comments significant deficiencies material weaknesses i'm happy to report there is nothing in that report to point out to you some additional reports compliance with Florida statute
218415 uh this discusses the city's compliance with the requirements for their investment policies and their investments itself there's no findings or no issues noted in that report as well finally last report to discuss um since the city expends more than $750,000 in
federal awards during the current year they are subject to a single audit which is a special compliance audit where we look at the city's major programs to perform additional testing on those items um in that report we did also issue a clean opinion no issues to bring to your attention related to that as
well just to highlight just to point out um I think everybody's aware of all the ARPA funds i'd just like to point out the city does have as of 930 um 2024 about $13.7 million in unearned revenues related to ARPA those funds of course were required to be obligated by the end
of the 2024 um calendar year and spent by the end of the December 2026 calendar year so I know management and everybody's aware of that just like to at least point that out there was also new Gazsby implementation Gazsby 100 accounting changes and corrections more information on that can be found in uh
note one of your ACTER um separate from the ACTER and the reports I just mentioned we do issue a separate unbound letter um directly to the council um if there is any issues that we potentially would want to bring to your attention they would be listed in that report if we had any um disagreements with management issues
that came up in the audit or anything else that we really wanted to bring to your attention they would be included in that letter of course happy to report we did not have any this year i'm going to pass over there's just some new accounting pronouncements on the horizon that we've been discussing with your finance
team so that's all I have from our presentation i'd be happy to answer any questions on the audit or any of the reports if anybody has any thank you does anybody have any questions up here thank you very much all right with that we will move on to
item number three which is the Ovito conservation grant program mr [Music] prop excuse me uh thank you Deputy Mayor this is a this is a request for council to review a presentation and provide feedback
pertaining to pertaining to a proposed uh or ovito conservation grant program uh that would be funded through an adjustment to the portable water consumption rates and I'll turn it over to Miss Harriet and Mayor Slato thank you good evening C mayor and council
members i'm Karen Harriet i'm the chairman of the Semino Sol and Water Conservation um district and we are excited about the possibility of helping you all retain um use less water and do
you have the slides it should be coming up here pretty soon and while we're waiting on that I do want to introduce uh some of the members of our team we've got in the back we've got Ella Konis from UCF if you could stand up and wave real quickly we've got Adam Lichfield from Hagerty High and I
believe we've got Etica Banerjee here so these are she's also from Hagerty High School so we have tried to bring in the entire community to figure out how are we going to not just come up with an idea but actually educate people on what are the next steps if you do want to
stop having St an Augustine grass or maybe you want to stop having what's a tree that uses a lot of water like gustramm they they can make it okay though um I'd also like to to introduce Peggy Green from the seminal soil and water conservation board there you
go and uh the idea is and and can we make sure we're into the mic I know there's two of you sharing okay you be the main talker all right there you found it okay the idea here is that we want something that is nonregulatory
And it's effective at um teaching the public that even though we're up against the limits of the the cup the consumptive use permit and even though there's homeowners associations that have requirements for landscaping that you
can meet the requirements for landscaping and still use less water and so the idea is to take the homeowners that use the most water and work with them on on their
particular property to bring that water usage down and the idea is to um have a grant program so that um they will fund Let's click to the next slide if you could there we go there's the problem um
we the soil and water board would work with the homeowners associations and we would be identifying those high usage customers and working with them to lower their water consumption all right so here's the problem we just raised the water rates uh and people don't like to
pay for more water we already know who uses more than the average so this whole thing is based on uh taking people who use about 2 and a half times the average for the city of Ovido and clicking the water rate up for people who use that much and that magic number is 8,000 so
if you look at the water rate buckets which we'll get to in just a second you'll see that 0 to 3,000 is is at the lowest rate and for a lot of people who have both portable and reclaimed water they they never crack 3,000 gallons so
even if you have a lot of you say you got a whole bunch of people taking a lot of showers every day the chances of going over 8,000 I don't know that it is possible to do that so this really is targeting the the highest users and then the additional revenue would be given
back to exactly the people who paid into this program so we don't want to read to you all of this i'm hoping everybody uh read their packet so for everybody that is out in the audience I think it is an interesting thing for you to know that you know reasonable minds disagree but
somewhere between 30 and 50% of the fresh water that the city of Ovito pumps goes to irrigation the 50% number comes from the University of Florida okay so UF says 50% us UF says 50% all right can
we click to the next slide please so the solution then is the solution is just minimize the irrigation of all sorts and create some ideas for people to know you what what do we do and I sent out a little email to everybody and said if you're interested in learning
more send a note back and a remarkable number of people said well I'd like to do this but I don't want to I don't want to have a big battle with my HOA and that is where our fantastic team comes in into play that's sitting out here they are interested and willing to go
talk with all the HOAs and the communities and explain you know how do we harmonize what Florida statute says with what the the bylaws of the HOAs say because they don't they don't match and nobody wants to be that guy and we have
um plenty of different templates and landscape ideas with different plants and nurseries where the plants are available from so that homeowners have a wide variety of looks to choose from so we're not asking them to have an ugly
lawn or ugly yard we just want them to have a a water efficient yard right next slide and here is the real kicker so I've mentioned this from the dis before and that's Florida statute 720 3075 subsection 4 and basically it it calls
out St augustine and calls out Florida friendly and people don't know what that means unless they get really into uh unless unless you're just a weirdo like I I'm a weirdo so I know what this means but when I have these discussions u in my in my business life with with
HOA community managers and stuff there there is push back uh so even this week somebody was was saying "Well you know you got to spray some herbicides because there's dollar weed and and you can't have the HA and well you know I think you I think you can but nobody wants to
be in a position where you may be fined or leaned by your HOA." Next slide and so there's a group of us who are willing to to roll up our sleeves and do the work and so we ask for the council
to provide this grant program so that we can we can give it a try all right next slide so here's the ask uh we need to have a funding source for this there's a couple of ways we could do it we can shift the buckets right now our initial
bucket with the lowest rates uh well our second bucket goes from 3 to 10,000 uh and if we shifted it to 8,000 just that one little shift to make it correlate with what the average use for OTO actually is creates a certain amount of
money a knowable amount of expected revenue we could also shift those buckets to try to get everybody more in line with the average and add a dollar for any for every thousand gallons greater than 8,000 or we could we could add a
different number so click to the next one if you could please and you can kind of see the differences here so you've got these different bucket sizes and in the first one if if we don't really know what what we want to do and just want to give it a try this first year if all we do is say that
we're going to charge the higher conservation rate beginning at 8,000 instead of 10,000 it'll yield over a4 million dollars click to the next please so if you move that 8,000 and then you also add a dollar so the red things are
the things that are changing so on the left is current the right is what it would go to if we raise the just the top the people who use more than average by just $1 per thousand gallons and you think about the quantity a thousand
gallons and you only were paying $1 more for that that would raise over half a million dollars that could be reinvested in this grant program if you click one more over and if we did $2 that would come up to $841,000 and if you look at the number
of people who actually use that much um you know we could in five years time hypothetically if we gave out $5,000 grants uh matching grants get everybody to move over and the math actually works so the cost that they would save in
their water bill and the amount of the grant like at the the 3 to fouryear mark that's when the math makes sense as a resident to say "Well I'm going to invest $5,000 to change my yard the city's going to give me $5,000 to help."
And with this $10,000 only five of which is my own money I will have recouped my personal investment in changing my yard in a reasonable amount of time and that really is the goal here is to figure out how to give enough of an incentive
financially for people to choose to do the thing that we need them to do to preserve aquifer next slide uh and it really is just a nudge and we already talked about how the math works so from from my end for me to do
something it takes a lot and I better recoup my investment fast so for for a lot of people if if you're a really high water user your recovery time will be faster than if you're just if you're if you're at like the 10,000 water rate
spot like your yard's pretty good so it's going to take you longer to recover uh but if you are you know on a 5 acre lot with St augustine and you're watering up a zoo um then yeah probably I was calculating about 18 months with the numbers that we have available but
yeah we we got to bridge that gap and I don't know what the right number is but I know that the first step is asking council to consider creating a dedicated funding source and if we get this dedicated funding source prior to the budget being implemented then we can
figure out how to go do the thing get all the the nitty-gritty details done and we would know how to offer it to people as the next budget cycle unfolds next slide and here's some of the the yard templates so the these are through the outside
collaborative and you can like see like in great detail here's street trees and it's like a a multiple choice you pick go pick out the trees and get whatever you need next one so we got the 60 foot there we've got 30 foot a 34T and a 50-
foot pattern um so there's all shapes all sizes and I think we can figure out how to you somehow in the details as we figure it out if somebody has a bigger yard maybe they need a bigger incentive to shift next slide that is it so anybody have any
questions any questions up here all right well how how many people do we think this will affect oh that is a good question for Mr cobb i had that at the top of my head somewhere along the way uh but I need to pull up the Yeah what
what's the percentage i'd like to know the number of accounts we have or homeowners that are using water versus the number that are over that 8,000 gallon amount percent that is actually in the water packet from several I want to say it's it's it's 25% or higher but
I let me get back with you on the details we have a spreadsheet with that and that's 25% of water bills or 25% of people who irrigate or 25% of utility bill customers are clicking in at higher than 8,000
But then the whatever was additional was collected from them they would be the ones to get it back so I'm not quite sure what the what the grant program will do will it allow someone to change from say St augustine to Zoya or Bermuda yes and are those
grasses less water yes tolerant or Yes require less water and how would you verify that you know when if someone gets a grant they say "I'm gonna pay 5,000." That you you work with the individual homeowner and you
you develop a plan and then you develop a plan and then as they go through um the way most of the soil and water um grants work is the homeowner spends the money and then once it's done and it
meets the the agreement then they get reimbursed so thinking the big number they would have to spend $10,000 and then we would reimburse them 5,000 of that is that how or they can spend $5,000 and we can reimburse 2500 i mean we can do it in increments it doesn't
have to be like a big huge chunk i'm just you know concerned someone gets a grant and they just let their lawn die they just don't water it and then yeah they say okay we've we've met the requirement no that's that's not the requirement the the requirement is to to actually have a beautiful looking lawn
that is low maintenance low water consumption and as they put it in then we can come back and with the matching funds okay and they they wouldn't need a professional landscape design or anything they could just No actually there's plenty of of free help available through the um extension office through
the master gardener program so nobody's required to go to you know spend a lot of money on the design portion okay and and by increments I mean I'm assuming that could be as small as you know a month or something so I put $100
in this month and then I get reimbursed the next month and just kind of keep going as you work around your yard or something like that yeah i think if you look at the water bills um I think the the very low income customers are not
anywhere near the $8,000 or 8,000gallon mark um these are are pretty good these these are the wealthy people these are people that have pretty large yards and um but yes it can be done in increments and so but
two I guess here's where I'm I'm hung up first of all I think this was a great presentation and we've talked about trying to educate people more but what stuck out to me is the same problem we keep having is people don't know that they can switch types of grass right right so I think the first thing we need
to do before talking about raising the rates because we just did that is educating people as much as possible and maybe going to these exact users who are over the limit and saying you can do this and the city encourages you and then further than that because right now I see this isn't trying to inspire
people to shift lawns right and be more environmentally friendly but I already see the inspiration there by their giant water bill compared to the lower users correct right or or even move away from you know lawn entirely i mean you can do all kinds of beds and all kinds of
islands and and do different kinds of plantings that don't require nearly as much water right but if we're saying these are our more wealthy users they have the money to redo their lawn right now and they're choosing not to and I don't think the dollar difference is going to shift that and then we're going to get a grant and that's still not
going to change that so I think like the biggest driver to do right now is go out and educate them on the rules because like you said a lot of people do not understand they don't have to have St augustine grass and you can have bear grass and it looks great all year with very little watering it's easier to
maintain so going out there and educating I think is first and foremost i just have a concern that if we were to go down this route and let's say we get all this grant money and then we say you have grant money to do this they're still not going to do it um So I
I that's a concern especially since we're missing the targeted educational value right there well we're not missing it we've got three people who are going to be working on that all summer long so that is happening regardless of whether council moves forward with a grant idea so the grant angle is to make the the
conservation rates perhaps noticeable enough for the wealthy people who are paying them to notice and if they don't notice fine there's no need for those people to consume the grant money we could use it to improve and do things on
city-owned land to make us use less water and that has been the feedback I've been getting for years is well you guys go first o veto you go first and one of the the biggest challenges is we don't have the funding either so if we were to get the funding we could go start transforming our medians
transforming our parks and we would have that funding source that would be dedicated to just this thing that you know some people could say well that's frivolous unless we had specifically done it to cause people to try to use less water and then you know used it for
a related purpose and the and the goal right now if 50% of the portable water is being used on grass on landscaping if we can lower that by 20% or 25% then then you are down to instead of being at
95% of your consumptive use permit you're going to be down at 75% or 70% and so that's the that's the win for the city all right thank you very much [Music]
all right we will move on to item number four which is the approval of the minutes for the April 7th and 14th meetings as well as the attorney selection committee what is the pleasure of council i'll make a motion to approve the minutes for April 7th and 14th 2025 and the attorney selection committee
meeting we have a motion do we have a second second we have a motion and a second is there any discussion no all right hearing none I'll call the vote all those in favor please signify by saying I i i all those opposed the motion carries we will move on to the
public comment section of the meeting i have one written request to speak but it's for an item so we'll hold on till that item uh is there anybody in the audience wishing to address council at this time please come up to the podium state
your name and address for the record stephen Shank 112 Boardwalk Avenue oto uh just a reminder that we had a program uh for many years uh that uh was Florida friendly uh program i would review that
uh go look at the results and see how well that worked how well it didn't i I'm not advocating for G i'm just saying that we did have a program for many years uh that provided uh funds for those who did change over uh we advertised it had it out there things
like that so it'd be I would say take it go grab a look at that and at least as part of this to go take a look at that if you're considering that's all thank you uh is there anybody else wishing to address council at this time hearing none I will close public comment
and we'll move on to the consent agenda deputy Mayor I'd like to remove six and eight from the consent agenda okay possible please we will make item number six into item
8A and item eight will stay as item eight so the consent agenda now includes item number seven what is the pleasure of councel i move we approve the consent agenda i have a motion is there a second second
any discussion i will ask the clerk to call the role mayor Slick i council member Aught i deputy Mayor Tukurt i council member Bterford i council member Britain i the
motion carries we will move on to item number eight which is resolution number 4595-25 Sweetwater Creek Debris Removal and Vegetative Hazard Mitigation mr cob uh thank you Deputy Mayor this is a request
for the council to approve work order number 25-314 for PDF professional debris removal services with looks great services of miss of of Mississippi Inc in the amount of $136,500 for debris removal vegetative
hazard mitigation along the Sweetwater Creek uh corridor and to approve a budget amendment for that uh every year we have um anytime we have a storm the Sweetwater Creek uh the Sweetwater Creek flowway is one that we have a struggle
with we struggle with the state and what we are allowed to remove what we're not allowed to remove we've been working with the state trying to get our trying to get that corridor cleaned out uh prior to the start of this next storm season we finally got approval to do that uh and so what this will involve and Annie I don't know if you can pull
that map up but what this will involve is the removal of debris within the creek within the flowway uh starting at just north of Franklin Street going all the way up to Deleó where the county takes over and this will allow us to go in to remove uh uh
fallen trees trees that are obstructing the flowway vegetation that's obstructing the flowway and we can also get out any other type of debris and it's with looks great they're one of our debris removal contractors and they actually helped us out with the last hurricane with Hurricane Milton they
were able to go in and remove some things and so the uh it is request it is recommended that the city council adopt resolution number uh 40 4595-25 thank you Mr cobb are there any questions for Mr cobb's
presentation all right uh is there a motion i move we adopt uh resolution number 4595-25 second we have a motion and a second any discussion i'm glad we're doing it it's
about time okay with that I will call ask the clerk to call a role mayor Slick i council member I deputy Mayor Tukurt i council member Bodford i council member Britain i motion carries we'll move on to item number 8A
previously number six resolution number 4584-24 uh the annual road reservicing bid mr cobb uh thank you deputy mayor this is a request for council to award invitation to bid 25-17 for road reservicing to Middle Sex Paving uh LLC in the amount
of 2,421,47.50 also to approve a 10% uh project contingency of $242,15 with a total project cost of $2,663,152.50 uh this is uh this actually we're going to be doing two fiscal years worth of uh road
reservicing through this program we're doing we're going to be tackling the list from 24 23 24 as well as 2425 and uh we this was put out for a competitive bid we received six bids at at the opening on February 17th the
lowest response bid was Middle Sex with the $2.4 million and any I don't know if you can pull those maps up for us um just to get an idea of the different streets most of the streets are in the Alfa Woods and Twin Rivers area but uh
that will be done and also would like to say these these these roadways here are mostly in the uh looks like the Alfa Woods area also I think the Chapman Chapman Oaks Chapman Groves area as well and if you can go on down as well
there's the big one which I believe is Lockwood Boulevard and so that is also part of the program too uh it's recommended that the city council adopt resolution number 4584-25 thank you Mr cobb do we have a motion i
move we adopt resolution 4585-25 second we have a motion and a second any discussion so there are some things on here that the people who live on these roads don't think they need to be repaved so I'm a little hesitant
to not ask for a little bit more scrutiny to make sure that we are spending this as impactfully as possible so I probably should have made a motion to continue but we've already bid out these exact roads but I don't think we should spend the money just because we
decided by some method i I guess I I would hope for somebody from public works to explain how we came up with this list when the people who live on some of these roads don't believe like they they're on the roads they're going to get the benefit of the repaving and they're telling me they don't understand
why they're on this list so while she's coming up that I believe we have a pavement conditioning assessment done every four or five years is that correct um hello um typically I think it's been done 8 to 10 years
and yes because this one extends all the way out to 2029 or 30 okay mhm so we perform a pavement management analysis of all the roads in the city of Ovido and there's a scale that they use there's a document I
can share with everybody if you'd like to see it and it identifies the conditions of each street and where we want to be and what we need to pave to maintain that road um to this average
PCI level of 70 so if um this is what we base it off and there's a schedule that keeps us within a range of sometimes 500 to 800,000 is what we typically have to resurface so
the the document usually prepared around that number after it's analyzed all the roads and it does the obviously the most severe roads first and then it progresses and we try and keep it in certain areas so we're not running from
one side of town to the other as well so we keep it in one area is there a particular road that you had a question on well if if you're telling me that this the staff has looked at all of these and done an objective analysis and said that these roads will degrade in a
problematic way if we do not pave them that is sufficient for me yes so we have the document and then we also obviously the document this one was done in finalized in 2018 so when we have these streets we do go out we have two people
go out and we drive the streets and we confirm and um that there is a need in addition to the document that was prepared identifying the deficiencies and there were multiple technologies involved in analyzing the roads as well
all right thank you you're welcome so So you're saying that Oh go ahead yeah i just want to make clear that you do you do a radar uh ground penetrating radar analysis and that's to identify if there's any damage to the base of the road yes and if and if there's not then
maybe it may look good on top but uh if it doesn't get repaved then you've got a very expensive problem if the base does erode that's that's the purpose of that's correct and on some roads you'll see that we're just we're doing um an edge mill and others we do a full mill based on the severity of the um
deterioration of the road okay based off that kind of information and I'll just tell you folks uh when when we first started this it it consisted of a sheet of paper with highlight markers on it on which streets we thought we needed to do and it's evolved into this ground
penetrating radar scientific and very a very thorough process to identify and prioritize what roads need to be done yeah the equipment the van that comes and spends like a month here driving all the roads it's pretty impressive how how they analyze everything and then there's
a recording and you can always go back and look at the road um just to confirm some of the data in the document and I also want to point out I live on one of these roads and we repaved one of the roads next to it last year and
before that road got really bad it looked okay but then we got some bad storms and it had enough degradation to it that all of a sudden you saw the foundation underneath coming up through the road so I could see some of these might look okay on the surface but seeing the ones we just repaired they're
not long off so I'm glad to hear that we're doing some ground penetration radar and checking those out and that makes a lot of sense so so are those reports is that something that I mean because we get asked this kind of stuff all the time how come you're paving that road and not this road and look at my road and look at that road and you know
um is are those reports the kind of thing that could I don't know go on the website or something that residents could be able to look at and say absolutely you know my my roads maybe something a lot of times people uh will request the the map I mean you could have the whole report you could just
email me and I can work with Lisa and get something on the uh website if it's not the whole report or how you can request a report but Yeah actually it's a really interesting read yeah isn't Isn't it already on the website Patrick is it Well we just redid
it so I can't answer that i don't know i thought we put it up every year on what the what the plan was and the prioritization of I don't believe we put it back on there so good evening mayor uh council members uh we did just redo the website i I'm not
sure if that specific document i do not believe that that specific document is on it but u Miss McDonald just publicized a a very uh new GISbased feature we're doing for all projects throughout the city and we were just having a conversation if that was if
this was included on that um so we're going to have to go back and check on that for you um and if not we will try to get it added on that GIS base so that you can see exactly uh it's very cool it shows a map of the city and where each project is and um so we're going to look
GIS should have what where it is in the priority list uh which is why we would be doing it there are high priority correct versus the the lower ones and and we were just having a conversation about that and we will um if it's not on there we'll get it on there so so the priority list yeah that that would be
one thing and I think that's what a lot of people are interested in right and then um what years we project maybe that's going to be and then that people can just look at it and go and say "Oh yeah this is on for 2027 or 28 or whatever." There is a map
exactly what you're saying yeah um and so you were saying GIS like click on the road and see the No I think it's just a map basically but it's generated by a GIS yeah so we call it the well we call it a story book and so all of our projects um
are on our GIS where you can look in the um certain area and click it and then you'll see the project going on so with this if we have resurfacing we'll put like a a dot there it's not going to it's not identifying every road on that
um on that pinpoint but we can send you the map and from the document you can see what's projected out for the next five years okay and I think people will be excited that Lockwood is on this list so yes um we should point that out too so I see a lot of nodding heads in the
audience so yes thank you all right thank you the key word is if you're not in it this year and you're not for another year or two just be patient because we'll get to you this is a a perpetual program we started I don't know how many years ago but um we need to keep on doing this because if you get
behind you never can catch up any other questions okay we have a motion and a second i will ask the clerk to call the role mayor Slick I council member I deputy May Tukurt i council member Bford I
council member Britain hi and the motion carries so we will move on to item number nine which is our public hearing this is ordinance number 1756 amendments to land development code article is that 14 signs section
temporary signs mr cobb uh thank you deputy mayor uh this is request council to adopt amendments to the land development code article 14 signs section 14.10 temporary signs and I'm going to turn it over to uh Dr koreah and Miss Pierre and they're going
to give the presentation good evening mayor deputy mayor council members annie if you can pull the presentation for me um so this is a request for city council to adopt amendments to the land development code
article 14 signs section 1410 temporary signs as you can remember we have been discussing um campaign signs for a while we had two work sessions um so this is the amendment to address campaign signs
in the code um it's very simple what we are doing we are just um um separating campaign signs from free speech signs um we had two amendments basic amendments in the code one uh we did the
clarification in on table uh 104101 and this is the only new thing is really the campaign signs in the bottom there is uh the underlying language is new language in the table but all the other language that is underlined except
the campaign sign one is language that was already on the text of the LC but was not reflected in the table so the table was a a summary of the regulations and staff thought it might be a bit confusing so we now reflected all the um
regulations on the table so the new uh um addition to the table is really the campaign signs because we are detaching from free speech signs next slide please um so we are separating them because they have in the code different
definitions so the speech signs free speech signs says assign implementing and protecting by action of a person's first amendment right to free speech in order to express any lawful non-commercial message while campaign
signs is just a sign which um concerns an election um so we adjusted section 1410H free speech signs to remove campaign signs from there and we added a new langu section section
1410K to address then campaign signs another reason why we needed to separate was that um it was a council decision to allow campaign signs to be um allowed in public rightways a a budding um polling
um uh places during the election um period for um uh primary elections um special elections and early voting and free speech signs are not allowed in the um uh public rightways except when
someone is holding the sign so we do not allow them to be placed on the on on the rightway um um only to hold them so that was also a reason why we needed to separate them um
next slide please so this is basically the changes we have done um there are no u budget impact to uh adoption of this ordinance um these proposed amendments are consistent with the goal objectives and strategies of the high performance
governance strategic uh strategic focus area we have provided um um business impact um uh estimate um as an attachment and is recommended that city council read ordinance number
1756 by title only conduct a public hearing and schedule a second public hearing for Monday May 5th um 2025 thank you Dr kura mr hall can you read this by title only absolutely ordinance number 1756 an
ordinance of city of Bovidito Florida amending the land development code of the city of Bovidito Florida specifically article 14 signs section 1410 temporary signs implement administrative actions providing for savings providing for savings providing
for complex seability codification as well as the correction of scripturers errors and an effective date thank you Mr hall uh as this is a public hearing I will ask if there's anybody in the audience wishing to address council at this time you got to schedule a public hearing we can have we have one now we have public comment now as well yeah we
can do it before hearing none i will close the public hearing and ask the pleasure of councel i move we uh I move we schedule a public hearing for May 5th 2025 second we have a motion and a second any
discussion on this one i am not comfortable distinguishing between a free speech sign and a campaign sign uh my intent was not to give special elevated rights to people who are campaigning but to protect the free speech rights of everybody who may want to get a message to civically active
people who are coming to vote early or on the last day when you could vote so I'd like to see this uh shifted around a little bit before it comes back for its final hearing to merge the free speech signs into political signs uh now there
is a way for somebody who wants to have the more lenient rules apply to them to have that happen and that's you go become a personal pack so you file a piece of paper with the city clerk or in some cases the supervisor of elections or a clerk at a different level and you
can do that but I don't want our residents to have to take these tickytack steps to to get access to an audience of of involved people council member Ratford I'm good with it council member Britain
Council Member so I have one question and I'm sorry if this sounds pedantic or whatever so when you said um a campaign sign concerns an election there's no legal funny stuff there about um for something like a charter amendment like
we had last time you're not electing a person it it is something you vote on there there's nothing in the law that says that that's not an election that's a referendum or any weirdness so so that like vote for this person could be there but you know no on whatever
yeah amendment you are correct but campaign size typically referred to a campaign because the statute talks in terms of election day early voting and so forth which was one of the reason you we'll talk about that uh but yeah the the campaign signs typically are for an
election they're for a short period of time and for a designated ter statute talks in terms of campaigns but but not just for an election i'm saying for an issue that's on the ballot that is not a campaign of a person we're not you have to I think you'd have
to create a pack is that correct Mr hall well I'm asking a different question it's the same i I I think I understand what you're asking Mr you're asking that if we let's say that the city did a referendum and the signage that was placed out for that referendum would that constitute a campaign sign yes is
is there anything that says that that's not a campaign sign under the law and that that's a referendum sign for example and nothing nothing that I know of okay so that would be covered under what we're going to call campaign sign as it's currently written i will defer to legal well because I'm
not the one to to establish if So you're saying um if someone is voting if there referendum is there a matter in the referendum and that would could be a campaign yeah yes or no sign on uh what were they that triggers that triggers
election laws i would be interested in hearing Mr vos's opinion on this if he is willing to share it he's sitting out in the audience well right now we are scheduling a public hearing time so I think what we're hearing right now is that we need to go meet with staff individually and get clarity before the
public hearing so with that are there any further questions right now before we take these offline into individual meetings so Okay so just as a as a point of order on that so if we schedule a public hearing this could still change between
now and then is that is that what you're saying you're saying if we were to um speak with staff and I mean we get a vote on this so you can make changes right but as far as having two public hearings required um and this being or sorry as having two readings required
this being the first one they don't have to be exactly the same well they need to be substantially you can't just rewrite it and then put it out there again so So yeah if you want to make substantial changes you would have to have a second public hearing would this constitute a substantial change to merge free speech
sign with campaign signs i do not think it would that's the way your statute that's the way your statute is now i mean they're together now in our code of ordinances yeah so you'd be going back so yeah so I mean if that's if that's
what you prefer then you probably don't need this because because right now campaign science and free speech science are in this are part of code warning the the purpose of our of us doing this was not to separate campaign signs from free speech signs which sounds like what we
did do in addition to the thing that council did direct staff to work on which is make it allowable for signs both campaign and free speech in my mind to be present at polling locations when you can vote in person at those polling
locations right which is what the I think the other road does that it but puts the restrictions on when campaign signs can't be Are you talking about the current one that prohibits campaign signs anytime except the very last day of voting because we we don't want to do
that so we do need the change but we do not need the change perhaps distinguishing between free speech signs and campaign signs okay well this ordinance coming up 757 addresses the restrictions on the campaign signs which is the other ordinance we're looking at tonight but right now our code of
ordinances has them together and this this one basically splits them out splits them apart addresses campaign sound free speech sound separately is what this does so I I think what the issue is is that um the the other ordinance is what
uh council directed and this one is perhaps not is that what you're saying no I'm saying that in addition to doing what council directed there was a spontaneous effort to distinguish between free speech signs and campaign signs i do not like that distinguishment
or whatever that that's I don't that that's a word so if the direction of council is to also allow free speech signs during the election period to be placed in the rightway because that that I think that was one of the distinctions that was
discussed in the um work session what about commercial speech not being allowed in the right of way we did not discuss I believe we did I don't think it was just campaigning i don't remember that i mean I only remember the commercial speech like the the pressure cleaners and stuff and that commercial
speech is different from free speech m [Music] the mayor you're correct commercial speech and free speech are different things we recommend we're recommending that we make the amendments to the land development code because the campaign
signs have a defined time period they're more temporary than what I would say is a free speech sign you could put a free speech sign out and leave it there uh it can be almost not on city property not on city property no not on city property but on private property you can uh free
speech signs have never been allowed in priv in public rideway that's that's always been something and with the change with the change to allow campaign signs in the private in the public rideway as well as with
the the different parts of the um the def definitions of when they can be out and when they have to be removed the campaign the campaign signs have to be removed within 5 days of the election
whereas a free speech sign you know even though it says in the in the code that they got to be removed within five days of an event if it's tied to an event but if it's a let's say that it's just a general statement that it's not tied to an event there's really no time frame
that it would have to be removed and so we create with some of these distinctions yes staff did recommend that we separate them out the free the the campaign signs from the free speech signs because of these different things
and um we'll get into the other stuff later but we also you know yes are they the same size yes they are the campaign signs on private property have to go through the same permitting process that a free speech sign would have to go through if it's less than six square feet it doesn't have to get a permit if
it's greater greater than six square feet it does have to get a permit the maximum size it could be is 32 square feet you know there are setback requirements on private property for each of them too i think the biggest difference is is that with the campaign signs they can now they can now go on to
public property uh and the free speech signs have never really like the mayor said campaign signs and free speech signs have not been allowed on city-owned property that are uh polling places and so with that distinction we
felt like yes we need to move them we need to separate them because the free speech signs were not discussed as part of what we were putting onto city property and within city rightway so would you be in favor of um if we allowed So we're the other
ordinance here is is about allowing or it's in this one too right but on the public right of way while elections are happening right um if you could have free speech sign the example you gave in the other meeting was save the whales if somebody wanted to have save the whales
and have it be with all of the campaign signs during the time of the election that's the thing that you would like that's what it sounds like yes um then could that same provision to free speech signs being in the right of way during
the election be made the same or sorry for campaign signs during the election be made the same for free speech signs yes it absolutely can okay but to that point but do we have consensus for our purpose of this being brought up in the first place and was because we were
getting calls about not being able to leave your campaign signs during elections right and the intent of that is met here and now we're adding in a whole new factor i'm looking at it the other direction I guess than you guys are so I I see the intent of what we asked for they did that and then we discussed it for three meetings so now I
don't know why we're adding in a whole new factor of free speech out of nowhere that's where I sit but there is a motion in a second if you guys are ready to move forward on the vote it is completely up to you i'm ready okay i
will ask the clerk to call the role mayor Slater i council member Bterford i deputy Mayor Tukurt i council member Britain i council member I the motion carries so we will move on to the first reading of
ordinances item number 10 which is ordinance number 1754 future land use map amendment for Arya at Ovito mixeduse development from lowdensity residential LDR to mixed use um let's see Mr cob or sorry uh Mr hall can you
read this ordinance by title only absolutely ordinance number 1754 an ordinance of the city of Oto Florida amending the future land use map for approximately 9.62 62 acres of land generally located on the southeast side of Lockwood Boulevard and the east side
of County Road 419 from lowdensity residential LDR to mixeduse MU providing for legislative intent implementing administrative actions a savings provision scrier's errors conflicts and severability and providing for an effective date
Mr cobb uh thank you deputy mayor actually Dr and Miss Pierre will have the staff presentation [Music] good evening Mayor Slade and Deputy Mayor Tuker and Council members good
evening so um staff we're going to have um if it's the pleasure of the board to do both presentations at one time um there will need to be separate motions made for each item that's fine okay also
um Dr ka and I are going to tag team the presentation tonight okay so we're here to consider the um comprehensive plan as well as the zoning map amendment for um what's called River Oaks Reserve um and now um
the applicant is representing Arya at Ovido so just a little bit about the property the property um that we see on the screen is called River Oaks Reserve and it's the conceptual development plan
um that's on the screen so the original we're going to take you through the history of the project tonight and Dr korea is going to talk about the merits of Arya at Ovido so just a history um you'll see
um the actual project i'm going to get this okay so you I think you can see it okay so we're looking at County Road 419 and this is Lockwood Boulevard the overall project which is River Oaks
Reserve which is this entire area is about a hundred acres and the original developer um is called Richard um Seminal Ranch it's Richland Seminal Ranch the project size um for the single family residential that was approved and
you'll see the single family residential um which is residential was limited to 50 dwelling units 50 dwelling units it also has a commercial area commercial area is the area where it says commercial you'll see
the red area which is where Arya Adovido is but that commercial area consists of 15.40 acres and of that 15.40 acres 9.63 acres is the subject property so it also
has upland areas it has um um compensating storage on the property it's it's a huge property and this subject property is 9.6 um 3 acres now there's been some confusion about
the future land use designation and the zoning of the property so the future land use of the property is low density residential and it was approved back in the '90s 95 um the difference is is that
that commercial area where it says commercial is a part of what's called low density residential but it is designated as C1 which is commercial on the zoning map it's designated as PUD but it operates at C1 so everything that
says commercial on that is um operates out of C1 the residential area that's there is limited to 50 dwelling units for um for the entire property can you explain while you're on this slide for the the sake of everybody in the audience how we
can have something that has a future land use of lowdensity residential and you're saying also that it is commercial so are you saying that the zoning is commercial and the future land use is not that so the zoning somehow outpaced
the future land use that is a great question so when it was designated as low density residential in the comprehensive plan the comprehensive plan allows up to 65% of the site to be um residential it has to be residential
the remainder can be commercial or office so that's the future land use and the future land use is an overarching um it's almost like the Bible for for the city it's it's it's the overarching thing so and then the land development
code comes in and it provides the details so the comprehensive plan says low density residential 65% of the site has to be residential the remainder can be office commercial or whatever so it's a planned unit development right so the
zoning of the property is PUD and we're going to go over what um how this was developed in a second um but the PUB is the zoning and it comes with a development agreement which is what Arya
Adovito has as well in the development agreement it says that the property will have C1 commercial uses and so we're going to go over that as well did that answer your question not exactly but
maybe the future presentation will okay i want to make sure your question is answered so this is um an area aerial from 1995 just showing the subject property um and at this point you can
see that the area was pristine you can see the Econ River on the um right hand side you'll see Lockwood going north and south and you'll also see 419 there was no Waverly Woods on this property at the
time and you can see the South wasn't developed either so what was going on in Oido in 1995 and in 1995 we were able to find an an article from the Orlando Sentinel
that says "Ovido Mall is nowhere and emotions are everywhere." So at that time the mall was not constructed but there were multiple newspaper outlets um talking about the concerns from the residents over traffic so let me put that into
perspective so just about every development that we get in Ovido we're going to have um people who are concerned about traffic will have people who come out against development we see that and the same thing happened back in
1995 when the um Richland um company came and applied for a future land use designation so to put that in further perspective we also had the same thing happen on this particular development
which was the um River Oaks Reserve and so let's talk about that the River Oaks Reserve they let's talk about their entitlements so the Richland at um Richland Seminal Ranch I keep forgetting
that name but Richland Seminal Ranch filed the original comprehensive plan amendment application and it was submitted to what's called Florida Department of Community Affairs as 95-02 now 9502 comprehensive plan
amendment 9502 was challenged it was challenged by a coalition of environmental as well as citizens group interested in stopping the development of River Oaks Reserve and we I showed the picture of the entire River Oaks
Reserve there were people environmental groups did not want this development at all so the resolution to this development was a stipulated settlement agreement and it was agreed to by all parties including the city the
stipulated settlement agreement was subsequently adopted into the comprehensive plan and it became an appendix 1A to the comprehensive plan um the state reviewing when we adopted the comprehensive plan amendment back in 2022 the state allowed the city to
remove that stipulated settlement agreement and I'm going to just show you briefly what the stipulated settlement agreement did it's kind of hard to see but I'm just going to highlight I'll just read um the first one um it says that it shall be developed as a planned
unit development in accordance with the city's comprehensive plan so it was required to be developed as a PUD um no more than 50 dwelling units can be constructed on the property and it also had a restriction on um dogs on domestic
animals being on the property um so that was that was provided for in our comprehensive plan so that appendix 1A was removed from the city's comprehensive plan back in 2022 and it was agreed to by the state and as well
as the other reviewing agencies so river the existing river oaks reserve PUD the entitlements includes and this is the existing PUD it's 106 acres um the commercial track consisted of 15.40
acres and the 9.63 63 subject property that we're considering tonight is a part of that 15.4 acres it's the last remaining vacant land in that River Oaks Reserve um development and you'll see the development agreement calls out the
C1 zoning um district for that commercial area it limits it to um it includes the additional besides C1 usage it also includes banks with drive-through facilities restaurants with drive-through facilities shopping
centers produce market um recreation uses institutional uses such as schools the floor area ratio is limited to a maximum building area of 10,000 square feet per gross area per per gross
acre or 0.23 23 floor area ratio maximum height is 35 feet um today's land development code for C1 is 60 ft so just wanted to point that out as well then it
also allows the um residential tractor which is where the 50 um town home units are this is the property um again showing within that commercial tract so now we're going to look at more
development more aerials so in January 25th 1999 you can see the property is still vacant still pristine there's no Waverly Woods the only thing that's being developed around that time is Kingsbridge East and I want to point out
that a lot of times the development has been approved by the city but construction doesn't start until later so you'll see Kingsbridge was approved in '95 999 they're starting to develop and this is Kingsbridge
East and then you you'll see more development you'll see Waverly Woods now they're starting with their development and it was approved in '95 and we're in 99 and they're starting their development as well as Riverside Landing you'll see the beginning of that
construction as well where the Publix is and then the Ovido Groves apartment which was approved in 97 they're now starting um their development as well and then in 2002 you'll see Lockwood's self storage site development order was
approved in '98 and they're just starting that but you'll see that River Oaks Reserve there's still nothing going on there they started with their um phase one storm water and then May 2004 now we see
Walgreens has been constructed on the property so Walgreens is part of that 15 acres you mentioned before that is allowed to be commercial okay it's a part of River Oaks Reserve yes and then you'll see Sun Trust Truist today that bank was being
constructed around 2007 and then 2007 you'll see River Oaks Reserve their um PDP which is the preliminary development plan for the subdivision for the 50 um units they are
beginning their phase um their construction and then you'll see that there is some construction which is the phase one it's more of a retention area so then the Ovido Village
condominium is being constructed was approved and you'll see the lag between the approval and the actual construction river Oaks Reserve um was completed um in 2011 11 so this is 2012 so you'll see
that completion then you'll see there's a storage unit that's being constructed Lake Nona office building that is also part of River Oaks Reserve that's there um and then you'll we put the proposed development so you can see how that
would fit in in that area now one of the things that we have talked about in the staff report is how the project is consistent with the comprehensive plan so the comprehensive plan the state um requires that there
are goals objectives and policies as well as a future land use map and future land use categories and so what we look at when we determine if things are consistent or not is if it's consistent with the goals objectives and policies and then also if
it's consistent with the map now the comprehensive plan is also a document that is changeable it's not an unchangeable document the state allows changes to the comprehensive plan it provides a process so if it's a smallcale amendment there's a process if
it's a large scale amendment there's a process the two processes are different um so this particular application is a smallcale um amendment process so when we say that if it's consistent with the comprehensive plan
we look at the policies goals and objectives that I mentioned and the map so this particular project is not consistent with the future land use map um it is low density residential um but it does allow for some commercial
and within that lowdensity residential which we I talked about so the density does not comply with the lowdensity residential density the density for low density is four dwelling units per acre um mixed use is where the applicant is
wishing to go it is consistent with the policies of the comprehensive plan and some of the policies that are listed on the the sheet above i mean on the I wanted to just go over um so the first I
don't know if you can see it it's hard for me to see it i'm going to look here uh under consistency with the policies it says the city's goals of developing and maintaining a well- balanced community with a variety of land uses that are compatible with with each other
so this would provide that compatibility in terms of a variety of land uses this is a mixed use it also would create local employment opportunities and an increased tax base policy 1-1.2.2
two talks about encouraging multif family development adjacent to commercial and adjacent and within mixeduse designated areas so this is going to be um a multif family development um within a mixeduse area
objective 1-1.3 discourages urban sprawl and promotes for a more sustainable development pattern and this because it is mixed use is a more sustainable pattern then what policy
1-1.11 talks about continuing working to be a fullervice community by addressing the unique needs and challenges of residents and households at all stages of life and in this um this particular product is not a product that we have in
the city which is the 55 plus we once had one at the mall but then it changed so this is our first product of something that is 55 and plus and so we want to make sure that we plan for all ages um and we become a fullervice
city and then policy 1-11.2 it encourages the provision of a range of housing types appropriate to age and needs groups so this one is going to be for 55 and
plus so Dr korea is going to come now and talk about the merits of the development thank you thank you Miss Pierre um and before starting to try to answer your question um so the um the comprehensive plan
allows in LDR mixuse with certain percentages so that that's how it's spelled and the only zoning that could address that is PUD so a lot of our PUDs this is not the only one that has LDR in
as a as a future land use so and that is to allow the commercial usually in the outskirts of the project is the situation such that once we create a PUB and we say a portion is going to be residential and the remainder is
commercial like we have to think of the whole thing as a unified piece for forever so if we have or until it's amended right this one is amending a PUD so but it but you're right but you're my understanding is that even without
amending it they already have the right to do commercial absolutely so that is part of the approval that they already was already granted and we are going to go over the existing entitlements that they have today so it is confusing for a lot of people that think it's LDR so
commercial is not allowed no it is allowed under PUD zoning and that is not particular to this property and to this PUD most of our PUGs have a mix of uses commercial and residential and is there
a point anywhere in the legal spectrum where so much time has elapsed that the right to continue using it as commercial evaporates and then you're you revert back to LDR well some some DAs in the
past had a a reversion clause that they would if they expired they would revert to a previous zoning this one um um has expired but our um LDC and I'm going to show that um the new
Ldc provided language because that that provided an issue for staff because a lot of projects or um properties that were developed under DAS that expired became on a limbo because the LDC does
not have specific standards for PUB these are negotiated is land development code for anybody who's out out listening to that that is the the rules of zoning for the city of Oto for development yeah
so the new LDC provided language saying expired PUDS we are going to um um revive them for the zoning standards until they are amended so that we do not have properties that are in the limbo that have no development standards so is
this the way that we solved the problem of not needing a the vested right certificate with regards to this particular land we did not deal with the vesting because the the new LDC the new LDC provided not only for this project yes forever so and we'll go over that but I wanted to clarify so the it is
confusing for some people that um it has the low density residential but then um commercial is developed this is not particular to this project this is actually something that all RPGs have so with the new LDC essentially um these
developer agreements do not expire or the the lo the zoning um and the rights that they're given basically don't expire so we gave yes we gave to those um um
u so that if you have and it's not only for vacant property because we do not have a lot of vacant property in in PUGs but it's also for existing property if you're going to add to your home in a PUD and the PG expired and we have a lot
of um properties under that situation there are no standards we cannot apply the new setback back or the new standards once that development was done giving different standards so we
had to give um um um some additional breath to the um to the DA until this change so if there is a a desire to change as this one they are proposing a change and we are entertaining a change but we we gave you know to the expired
um PUDS um until they are amended um the zoning would still be in effect okay okay um so at the when this developer agreement was made and the rights for C1 were given why was the
future land use map not changed to C or to commercial at that time because in the PUD that's the idea so the the LD the low density residential provided that you can have mixed use if you think
as a whole and a lot of our our our um city was developed like that but as a whole oh sorry go ahead so as a whole and residential requires commercial nearby so now we are changing to have commercial or mix the mixed use in the
site on the site right either horizontal or vertical but before was let's have all the residential area here in the outskirts next to the arterial areas then we're going to have the commercial the Publix the you know the the offices and can we let's get through the
presentation and hold questions to the end thank you so when amending the comprehensive plan uh in a situation like that that people are um an applicant is requesting a um a future land use map amendment what we check is that if the project fits the vision of
the comprehensive plan so we analyze the impacts and the merits of the project um and then I'm going to start with that and then and later I'm going to talk about the changes so uh Miss Pier show that all changes um are um followed by
uh resistance right that's not also particular to this project the U residents raised those five um issues traffic is the main one and we are going to address that drainage was an issue that was um raised
in the beginning but that was resolved during the community uh meeting character was another issue that was um uh raised density uh we are going to talk about character also density they are increasing there is no way to to
that's that's the role of the future land use map amendment but we believe and we are going to discuss that that the project has merits to um to allow us to grant um the additional density and then there was also um raised that um
there was protection of wildlife and for that we have a process and we have an environmental consultant that if there's any protected species found in the on the site at any point of the development they would have to follow the the the process through the proper agencies
so this is the and this is this is a um um graphic that you have seen before when we discussed the comp plan these are the qualities of desired development in the city right that's mixed use that promotes connectivity that increase capacity that promotes multimodal
um development that is compact and infield um that um promotes complete streets that vibrant sense of place that provides smart design with technology and that has a component of design of the architectural in our architectural
standards um this development um is a mixeduse development um they are proposing 1772 age restricted multif family dwelling units and that is the blue area in the uh map and they are providing
amenities as pickle ball courts dog park clubhouse pool and some conservation area they are also proposing um 6,200 square ft of commercial retail space and that is the green area on the map and
they are um restaurants are not prohibited and this is something that they um um requested or they proposed um it's sometimes it's difficult to have restaurants and residential um above so um they are restricting to u not having
restaurants so the traffic analysis was based not um analyzing the impact of a restaurant the height that they are proposing is 70 um so it will be five stories um 294 parking
spaces and they are proposing u 37% of open space now the old entitlements give u in the in the DA um requires 30% today the comprehensive plan requires 25% but
they are proposing 37% and that is something that we requested and they adjusted um to show that um um they are they are providing more than uh what today is required and more than um the
old DA would requires as well they are also providing a conservation easement buffer and this is a requirement in the um comp plan which is an average of 50 and min minimum 25 from the wetland line this property has some wetlands um they
have three um access points to two points two access points on Lockwood and one at 419 the applicant will describe the project in more detail so what are the qualities that we see in this development and one is that mixed use um
that is something that we want to promote in the city the other thing is that it's a compact infield development so it we are not sprawling we are not expanding the boundaries of the city and we are promoting some density in areas
that already have um service um it's a smart design they are proposing electric vehicle charging stations which is are not uh required anymore um by the code um and they are proposing a smart design
which is the mixed use creating walkable um neighborhoods and promoting a blend of residential commercial and recreational uses um and in the same uh place and another great quality for us is that it's it's bringing the 55 and
plus um community um development for us which is the aging in place so it allows the residents who would like to um downsize and still live in the city an opportunity to have a place to live
here um the existing entitlement so this is um um uh what we talked about so this section of the LDC the land development code section 4 so article 4 section 411P um states that um to maintainable lots
within the city all development development within expired development agreements shall fall the standards of the approved development agreement until the city adopts a zoning district or approves another development agreement for the area and this property is now
proposing a change um in for that particular for the subject property and we are going then to see now the existing entitlements versus the proposed entitlements to check the impact so this is an exercise that we
did and I'm going to clarify this is not a threat this is not um this to to to um bring fear it's just this this subject pro um property is entitled to uh build
a maximum of 9 96,300 square ft of commercial property so what we did is analyze what is the impact to this m this would be a maximum but this is a possibility right so what
we compare to a Walmart which is 99,000 or um a Publix which is 51,000 and just trying to see what is the impact on traffic of a commercial and what is the impact on traffic of the multif family
um the mixeduse development so this is the sidebyside impacts um so the category the shopping center um between 40 and 150 that's the category in the IT which is the manual
that um uh provides the trip generation and the basis for the the potential in the existing DA is 96,300 and then provides the weekday trips the uh AM peak hour trips the PM
peak hour trips and then compares to the area um um and review the proposal 172 age restricted multif family and 6,000 156 retail commercial and you can see that the decrease is substantial so the
traffic is and we can play with the numbers we can you know bring to half it's still going to be um substantial more the commercial we have Cockwin um here he's our transportation consultant if there are any specific questions on
transportation he'll be able to answer open space again we did the same thing we compared minimum 30% what the um DA says today requires today 37 and it's actually 37.8 80 what they are proposing
in the CDP but the DA was changed to require 35% so they are increasing their own requirement the height is being increased um today the maximum height would be 35 ft they are proposing 70 ft
so that's an increase in the parking spaces um for the commercial would be higher um uh than the residential so age restricted is less parking than less trips than the um
regular multif family and but also the the parking is um reduced in in relation to the commercial so character when we analyze character we analyze the transition of uses um so that graphic shows uh or the
map shows um we usually put more intense uses along the corridor um and um so you have the commercial along 419 a little bit on Lockwood and um so mixed use is less intense than
commercial and single family is less intense than mixed use so you can see that and I can see if I can't point I don't know how this thing works oh over there so you can see here so this is where we are propo they are proposing
the um development right so this is the core of the mo most intense area this is all the commercial area along 419 um the residential is here right the uh River
Oaks town homes and and town homes is actually a typology of medium density residential in this case because of the stipulated agreement they manage to have um town homes in LDR but it's usually the typology is not um the typical
typology of lowdensity residential is a detached single family home they have here an attached single family home so having um a mixeduse in between town homes and commercial is a good transition that's a natural transition
in the if if we go to the south in this area here is Kingsbridge and then you have the apartments which is not part of the PUD kingsbridge had the the commercial along Mitch Hammock but the um apartments is very close to the
residential so again but closer to the commercial so that is a transition that is um a natural transition so we also think that um the character they pass the test of character the the the project provides a good um transition
from the residential to the to the uh more commercial area so the merits of the project just to make a summary it's the 55 plus community for us less traffic than the existing entitlements would allow no
school impact that's another benefit increased open space um they are providing a crosswalk to promote safe access um to the commercial areas from both sides of Lockwood um they are also proh providing improvements along
Lockwood Boulevard to organize the full access point in front of publics this is the situation right now it is very confusing that area and uh we sat down with the applicant with our consultant in public works to propose improvements
that would organize that um intersection over there and it meets the comp plan policies as to several you know policies in the comp plan and the most important are diversity of housing options compact infield development as as opposed to
sprawling mixeduse development uh development is stimulating other modes of transport portation so these were amendments um to the project that were um done during the the um uh process of bringing um this
project to city council so after the first LPA um first hearing um they requested a community meeting with um um the residents that were in attendance um they also requested a line of sight graphics um and then we had a community
meeting um uh here in the city chambers um during this um uh community meeting um the community requested clarification on the age restriction um of the the project how did that play
and the applicant ended up also self-limiting themselves to say all residents in the units would have to be uh 55 or or more um staff requested changes in improvements of the full access and um
we obtained that and also staffed um um increase requested an increase in open space and that was already also um um u discussed and the applicant um ended up after the second LPA hearing amending um
their DA to include a minimum of 1500 square feet of permeable pavers within the parking areas is um to increase the open space the DA was also amended to require a minimum of 35% of open space based on the net development acreage and
the CDP shows the project providing 37.8 83% and the location of the crosswalk was also changed to a safer area and that came from a request from a resident during the second uh public hearing in
the LPA so the second public hearing the LPA is actually the first public hearing continued but it was the second meeting so this was the project project schedule we had the first um hearing at LPA in January uh 28th then we had the
developing community meeting here at the council chambers on February 13th the second um public hearing was on April 1st in LPA in the first one um requested continuence until we had a a community
meeting then in the second meeting when they address it um considered the project again they recommended denial of ordinance 1754 which is the complaint amendment and recommended approval of ordinance 1755 which is the zoning and the PUD and
the DA uh with the condition that all residents would be 55 and plus and then um today we are bringing to city council and we have the public hearing um we would requesting that uh council schedule public hearing for
May 5th so staff recommends approval of ordinance number 1754 and 1755 and it's recommended that city council read ordinance ordinances number 1754 and 555
by title only and schedule public hearing for May 5th 2025 and we are available for um to answer any questions as well as our consultants here thank you Dr maria and before we get going I know this is not a public hearing and
the uh that would be May 5th if we went forward on this but I do have one written request to speak so I will allow them to come up here if we could have Mr john Hildebrandt come up and state your name and address for the record um and then you have three minutes
thank you um I came here today really to oppose this uh I felt that every time um we see a large uh multifamily unit going up there's a lot of objections and we're always told
that because of the plan or zoning things are in force already you have no choice but to approve it here we're making an exception to approve such a thing with uh the increased traffic it's going to bring to that area um I
understand that uh in talking for with the mayor earlier today uh before this meeting I appreciate the time she took um this has always been available for commercial development and has not been happening yet so it doesn't appear to be
the whole big demand for it yet and as a result I think we're just getting an excuse to put in another large apartment complex and that would be my objection to it thank you thank you is there anybody
else wishing to address council at this time please come up and state your name and address for the record address yeah name and address thank you um Joanna Rivera Fuentes um 2340 Pine Brook Court i live off of 419 on
Riverside the traffic is crazy we have Lton we have Parton and then down the street we have um Jackson Jackson Heights um and then all the traffic to
go to UCF and then people coming and going from from work and home it's already insane i don't understand how this is being proposed also aren't we creating a new water plant how can we support this this increase in water
usage i I just I don't understand i I I have I've spoken to many of my fellow neighbors and no one is for this this we can't increase the traffic the the amount of accidents I I I just I can't imagine i'm not for this either please
don't do it thank you is there anybody else wishing to speak at this time please come up and state your name and address for the record hello Ed Stok 677 Evening Sky Drive and I'll keep it real brief because I understand this isn't the time for this so I'll be at the next one as well but I
do want to point out that they did not mention I've been at every meeting that the one of the primary concerns is that this does not fit our current comp plan and they did not address that on there so I want to make sure that's clear thank you is there anybody else wishing to
speak at that I will close public comment and what is the pleasure of council motion to schedule a public hearing for May 5th 2025 we have a motion do we have a second second we have a motion and a second any
discussion Council Member Bradford no not at this time okay Council Member Rock uh yeah I had a I had a couple questions uh so when um to the question was just asked about uh fitting the comp plan or not um you know it was mentioned
that this doesn't meet what's in the future land use but fits the spirit of the text that's in the comp plan so the comp plan has multiple parts of it one of them is a text that says hey here's the kind of things things we want to support as a city and and those were
enumerated so there are there are two different things and it and it meets one but it doesn't necessarily meet the other which is the future landings map and my question to that is could it be said that really any mixeduse development um could be said to comply
with the spirit of the policies in the comp plan well mixeduse is something that we would like to see in the city so yeah mixed use is one of the policies um that um uh
that the comprehensive plan has to um so that there is more efficient use of the land because the the single use as which is the the typical suburban community we have the residential neighborhoods here the commercial there
the you know so you have to commute to every single need you you have and you have to get into a car and and commute and get into the same arterial roads so we are trying to change that paradigm of development to say we need to have um
the uses closer so that people can walk and bike to to you know to do their needs so now we can go to from here to Oidon the park and and have several restaurants so that's that is the the
idea so mixed use is one of the the policies that we want to promote but I guess the question is could this be said for any piece of property that's LDRC1 for example uh it would meet the spirit of the text of the comp plan as you
detailed in the presentation to turn it into mixed use i mean there's nothing special necessarily about this one that meets the comp plan's intent to have you know more density and uh you know all the things in that slide that slide
is that a fair statement um uh well this one has less impact so because we analyze impact too if people are concerned about traffic this is a better option than the commercial that is already they have the already the
entitlement there so that is also another analysis that we do i see what you're asking and I think the answer is yes anything anything that is mixed use is by definition going to comply with one of the policies this has other policies that it complies with the 55
and plus complies with diversity of you know of housing options but yeah mixed use is one of the policies and for the other question that you pose you're correct too so I don't think we are misleading anybody to say there is a comprehensive plan amendment being
requested so the future land use map is not consistent right we are not hiding that um and that is that was a question that was asked by the president wanted to make sure that there clarity on clarity and actually in the LPA I clarified that um had the opportunity to clarify that now what we think is that
the policies in the tax of the comp plan are sufficient to support the change on on the staff's perspective okay um so on the on the water somebody asked about the water um there is an additional document in the packet um that says that
public works has um analyzed the water situation and found that there is sufficient water yes that is correct public works and they have to every time we have a comp plan amendment we have to look at the capacity of water sewer traffic all of that so we receive a
letter from my public works department stating that there's adequate capacity and can I just go back to the consistency with the comprehensive plan we specifically put that slide in there so that um we can demonstrate how it's consistent with the policies we talked
about the two future land use map as well as the policies so we pointed out the the specific policies regarding aging in place mixed use um those specific things but we also look at the location of where these projects are
located so if there's policies that will support it we will point it out and put it into the staff report so these policies are in the staff report so we weren't trying to hide the fact that it's not consistent with the future land use map we actually pointed that out
yeah no I heard you existing plan so I wanted to make sure it was clarified for the res so I have one one more question um at the LPA meeting they they voted against changing the future land use designation
and then they voted against changing the zoning however Mr hall directed them that they could not do so without competent and substantial evidence at which point they revoted and then approved it so I I'd like to ask um to
to that question you're saying to to that question what we had the long discussion we discussed 1754 first and the LPA and then we had we had the uh it continued they had they had the meeting with the developer came back LPA then uh
said no we still don't like it so we're going to recommend denial and they said okay we're done I said no you have another ordinance to consider because if and they said "Well if council if the council doesn't doesn't pass it then we don't have to worry." I said "What if council does pass it?" So I said "You
need to you need to give council recommendation on 1755 as well." And with the with the potential that council may pass 1754 and then they would look for you recommendation so at that point they took a vote on 1755 which is the
reasonzoning portion uh on the assumption if counsel would have said yes we want to move forward with that so that's that's why it came out like that is a way to rephrase that if council were to hypothetically change the future
land use map what then would be the appropriate response and advice from the LPA on how to address the reasonzoning request in a quasi judicial situation that's correct that that's exactly what the discussion was correct okay
any further questions uh I I don't think so at this time okay uh Mayor Slick so I'm looking at the traffic here and it looks like the what is allowed by right is is nine times as big as what is
proposed and the impervious surface is if if it were changed would be over 16% greater than what is already allowed by right well I guess it it'd be more 25% but if
we're going back to the developers agreement anyway there there's there's a significant improvement in how much pvious surface would be here if we were to allow the change versus not and I'm saying all this in advance of the actual
hearing so you know where my brain is because the vote's not happening tonight the votes happening at the next meeting uh but I want to make sure that everybody chimes in and if you want to have potentially nine times as much traffic you need to say we really want
the traffic we want the city of Ovido to have nine times as many cars coming out of this place we want to have greater wear and tear on Lockwood Road at this area we want to have more intersection issues like if you want that you need to
help me understand that you really want that potential to remain a possibility otherwise we have an opportunity here to have the traffic beet nth of what is legally impossible for us to
deny and that puts us all in a really difficult position up here because I'm looking at this and thinking well we don't have to do it and and I think it's important to say that the map we don't have to change it this is a policy decision and we can look at the policies and we can say you know we disagree with
staff we just don't think that this is the policy we want to do we had meetings we did our land development code we came up with the maps and there they are and it says LDR and we're taking that 100 acres or so of the initial development
from 1995 and this little pocket we intended for that to be commercial and by golly we are sticking to our guns we can say that but I'm listening to some of the data here and I'm not certain that that is the best final outcome so I say all
this so you know where where my brain is going and uh the one thing that I see as the trade-off to get 1 ninth of the traffic and 16 or more% additional open space is the height going to 70 ft um so
I I had asked if somebody could create a slide i'm curious if the trees are actually there that are shown in the aerial version of the the line of sight um and you know this is something we can figure out between now and the meeting
in May but if that's something we can get over it may be something to consider so please if you're a neighbor in the in the area or you're watching this give us a lot of feedback if you would like to have traffic and not apartments and commercial like I like commercial i
think it would be very convenient but I do not have to traverse this intersection every day for those who do have to get through this intersection every day it may be better for you from a traffic perspective to have this
versus what is allowed by right so that that's my two cents and uh I did have a quick question on the age restriction and I'm not sure if anybody here is able to answer it and that is can grandkids not spend the night in this place because if that is added to the
developers agreement I I'm just curious do you know grandkids allowed i can answer oh please please do for the record Logan Ops Hall 215 North Yola Drive so the intent I think with this adding in the age restriction is to make sure we strengthen the no impact on
school the concerns with UCF being so close uh anyone under 55 living there and so we adjusted that restriction to in our our development agreement to make sure that everyone living within the facility party to the lease and
otherwise inhabiting these units are 55 and plus so yes grandkids can visit um and stay the night but they would be in breach of a lease agreement if one were to reside there okay so you'd have some
some limit for how many times per evening the grandkids from UCF can come hang out yes yeah so we would we would be sure to restrict any sort of right like UCF students would not be staying at this property and we'll take great
care to remove that concern because it's a valid one that we heard and so we are happy to address that head on all right thank you could ask you a question while you're up here what's the average age for a 55 plus 72 uh 72 that we've seen in our
other similar type uses with this asset class and within that how many vehicles do they normally have we have a traffic study I think excuse me not a traffic study a parking study that looks to that i I believe what we've yielded is even well below what's
being provided in the DA in terms of vehicle usage that we've seen from others so we like to utilize that parking count uh but again it it's usually below what uh a jurisdiction requires and in this case they are requiring more albeit it's 91 spaces
less than what's entitled but it is it is more than what we've seen okay thanks all right council member Britain are these going to be owner occupied or is this a commercial venture mhm they're not sure well he's saying
are they're for rent their market rate rent they're gonna be rentals so this is a commercial yeah so it's not like a condominium it's it's market rate rent 55 plus so we've seen that kind of as you look at usages when you go all the way up to like assisted living
facilities maybe the top of the ladder this would kind of be the next step um of an aging residents and and you know 55 is still pretty spry but an aging residents who no longer want to take care of their yard those sorts of things we've seen that sort of use and I think
the the average age that we do see kind of also speaks to to that okay you know we we struggle around here with the the fact that we're only about 20% resident or 20% commercial and 80% residential and when you add what the state
legislature is doing with homestead exemptions it really puts a a hurt on us so we we need to encourage ourselves to have more commercial and I guess I have a question for Teresa thank you
is is this area part of the urban core um no well we do not have an urban core it's not the the the downtown not the downtown not the downtown so it was not identified as um an area of growth right
in the comp plan but that also does not preclude a property being asked to change the f future land use map amendment and we will analyze case by case as we are doing with this one yeah i guess what I'm getting at is is maybe uh change mixed use is another word for
urbanization u because we will allow more density more people in there and yeah yeah we'll put some commercial in there but isn't that really what we're doing we're we're accommodating more population yeah well that that was the
plan right to go vertical to go compact not to sprawl right the city doesn't have a plan to expand its boundaries so we will have to go vertical in the areas that we have available so and I I would just educate folks here that may not
know we've we've grown by 700 people a year and I'm guessing every year since 1990 so you can do the math that's 7,000 people every 10 years and if it keeps going uh like it is in Florida with a thousand people a day moving here that's
not an unreasonable number for people to want to live here this is a highly desirable place um and it's probably going to continue there's going to be a lot of pressure uh for us to build up and not out because we're constrained by the rural boundary for one thing uh so
it it to me comes down to what are the property rights of the of the owners of the property versus what we can really allow and you know if we don't want to allow it what what rights do they have uh to counter that
and that's where the entitlements that they have that it's the commercial okay thanks question while you're still up here are you allowed to in ovito uh clearcut your land like on this one whether it is commercial or it is
apartments and mixed use uh 100% of the land not 100% all all of the amount of the same amount of land will be clearcut correct like is allowed to be clearcut hypothetically so this area has um wetlands so they will have to it's not going to be the
whole thing anyway because they have they have upland um buff offers and um we have we have a process for clearing in so depending on the project it may change right but do you have to have a
project or can you go precle for you have to have a project okay so that that is a concern that people have have brought up is well maybe nobody wants to do commercial so maybe we could just have it be a forest longer uh but at the end of the day no matter what's go what
goes there it will all hypothetically It all can be clearcut is that a pretty accurate representation not all all but the wetlands well depending if they go to the maximum so if a maximum of commercial they would the footprint will
be bigger and it will clear more um parking so that okay so at the end of the day if it were commercial more will be clearcut and I I'm doing the numbers here with 37% open space some of it is
impervious surface so that will still be clearcut and that will still count as open space but it will be at least the water can sink in so okay but so we probably end up with the same swath of trees gone either way is
that Well maybe that's a question for the app um hold on let's go down the order too okay well I my turn to never end it but then it kind of went on so okay well if you want to finish the question you're on that's fine yeah that that's the only question is is it the same amount of land that gets
clearcut and I don't know so that that depend I would say the commercial potentially could have more right more impact on the land than the residential but that that is depending on the design of the project but there's no way at the end of the day when this is developed
that we can we can't prevent something from coming here and clear cutting from happening no and and the other point that is interesting to uh raise is that if commercial comes this is not going with the existing entitlements it's not going through this
process so we have no say so if they come before this body if they comply with the the DA as written um and if it's silent complies with the LDC it's a site plan um project because the entitlements are
already there so there is no public hearing there is no this process will not be for um if they are not changing the PD or the DA all right thank you if if I can add Oh sorry sorry go ahead so
um as far as you guys have had some really good input here there's been a lot i did thank you to staff you know we sat down for a couple hours there and went through this in detail and I also want to thank residents for coming out and speaking um I did go through and watch the very lengthy LPA meeting so I
know this is a passionate subject here but the thing that keeps coming up to me as well is that this being developed as commercial is kind of like a boogeyman that no one actually expects this to happen am I correct that this is the same piece of property that we lost a $4 million lawsuit over for being developed
can Mr cobb is that this exact parcel yes we have lost $4 million as a city for this exact parcel being developed into something so there is a definite looking forward someone is definitely going to develop this so this is not
a I know we're looking at this as a potential this could be developed into commercial it's it's just a matter of time it has been looked at as something that has been wanted to be developed in the in the past and we have lost a lot of money as a city over um I have a lot of comments on this project but as this
is not our public hearing I'm going to save them for the next meeting um are there any other comments right now our questions yeah the question you were asking is is that what um about whether there would be more green space commercial or uh
mixed use is that what's addressed on the chart sideby-side comparison open space minimum 30% or is that that chart has not been updated to the latest developers agreement if I understand correctly it has so our our chart here
shows the 35% now requirement that it's in the DA so today the the the DA that was expired that the LDC revived says 30% the comprehensive plan
has reduced to 25% and this project is proposing 35% as a minimum and in the CDP they are showing 37.8 something percent almost 38% so is that chart different than what's in the
packet yes oh oh in the packet i'm sorry i was showing I I noticed that some of the things we're missing out of order we correct in the PowerPoint presentation but you're right in the packet because this this was a recent change okay can you send me that or us or update the
packet absolutely please thank you okay with that um I will ask the clerk to call a roll council member Bford I council member Aught i mayor Slade i deputy Mayor Tugert i council member Britain i the
motion carries and since we already discussed it but we still have to vote on it we'll move on to item number 11 ordinance number 1755 which is the zoning map amendment for Arya Ovito mixeduse development um Mr hall can you read this by title
deputy mayor ordinance number 1755 an ordinance of the city of Ovido Florida amending the zoning map for approximately 9.62 62 acres of land generally located on the southeast side of Lockwood Boulevard and on the east side of County Road 419 from planned
unit development PUD to planned unit development PUD providing for legislative intent implement administrative actions a savings provision scrier error conflicts and severability and providing for an effective date thank you Mr hall um Mr cobb we kind of already went over this
so unless you have anything to add deputy mayor I think you there's nothing more to add okay what is the pleasure of councel make a motion to schedule a public hearing on Monday May 5th 2025 for ordinance number 1755 yes we have a motion is there a second
second we have a motion and second any further discussion no hearing none I will ask the clerk to call a role council member Bford I mayor Slick I deputy Mayor Tuker hi Council Member Britain i Council Member A i motion
carries moving on to item number 12 ordinance number 1757 amendments to code of ordinance section 30-3 political campaign signs advertisements prohibited on city-owned property uh Mr hall can you read this by title only yes abs
ordinance number 1757 an ordinance of city of Ovito Florida amending the code of ordinance of the city of Ovito Florida specifically section 30-3 political campaign signs advertising advertisements prohibited on city- owned property implementing administrative
actions providing for savings providing for conflicts severability cotification as well as the correction of scriveners errors and an effective date mr cop uh thank you Deputy Mayor annie could you pull those changes up uh I I'll go through this really quick because we've
we've already had two work sessions on on this uh proposal proposed changes to section 30-3 uh of the code of ordinances and Annie if you could just scroll down just a little bit the main thing that we wanted to show was that at the last work session you you gave us
good direction on the period of time in which the signs can be installed uh at polling locations and this is one of bas one of the basic tenants of this ordinance is that uh the only time the campaign signs can be on city- owned property is if it's serving as a polling
place and so what we've done is we addressed uh what council's direction at the last work session was that the signs can be placed uh beginning at 4 p.m the day before early voting uh before the opening of the polls on the first day of early voting and they
must be removed by noon the day after of the actual day of whether it's a primary election or it's a general election or it's a special election uh we also have um have put in that the um that the
signs are the uh the uh the responsibility of the owners actually Annie if you could slide down just a little bit more and uh and then a little bit more we want to go down to C if you if you don't mind right there
stop that's good we also council you gave us direction that you wanted us to be able to allow uh signs within the rideway adjacent to the polling place and so that's what this does is that it creates that ability for a sign of less than six square six square ft or less to
be placed in the ride of way in on the same side of the street uh as the designated polling place and we did put in that can't block the site and can't obstruct people from using the using the uh using the ride ofway and Annie if you'll slide slide down just a little
bit more uh right there that's fine uh one of the things I wanted to show you on this one was that um we do still maintain the general uh no signs in the ride of way uh language uh but that is to address right ofways that are not
adjacent to the uh polling places we also left in the area the provisions that people who are supporting a campaign can carry a sign on a sidewalk as long as they're doing it in a safe manner uh Annie if you could slow down right there that's good come back up a
little bit uh the maximum square feet uh for the campaign signs on city property is six square feet uh we the city does reserve the area to designate a no touch zone and um that uh it u if it's not a polling place then
placement of campaign signs would be prohibited uh it's recommended that those are the proposed changes that's based on your last work session that you had it's recommended that uh you uh schedule a public hearing for May 5th 2025 thank you Mr fal what is the
pleasure of council make a motion to schedule a public hearing Monday May 5th 2025 second we have a motion and a second any discussion no i will ask the clerk to call a role council member Butterford i mayor Sladic
i deputy Mayor Tuker i council member Britain i council member i the motion carries we have no resolution items or discussion items so we will move on to the city manager report uh thank you Deputy Mayor i wanted to tell you that I had a wonderful time last Saturday uh at
Arbor Day it's always one of my favorite events uh I believe we um the city gave out close to 600 trees i don't think we gave out all of them but we did give out close to 600 trees and uh it was a it
was a joyful time engaging with the residents and uh talking to them as we were uh assisting them with loading their trees uh also I'm very excited uh that this coming Saturday uh we will be celebrating 100 years of the town of the
city of Ovido and uh that uh with our hund 100 year celebration uh from 3 to 6 3 to 9 3 to 9 on on Saturday so I'm looking forward to attending that and celebrating throwing the biggest
birthday party I think I've ever attended so uh and uh that's all I have deputy Mayor you are you are leaving early because it goes to 9:30 are you just going uh you know it is after my bedtime so I just checking uh Mr hall I do not have a report
tonight mayor Slick uh wanted to get some info on the number of people who use more than 8,000 gallons it is 7,61 addresses and we'll need staff's help to find out what the total is because I
forget that part but I I I vaguely recall it being about 29,000 accounts total which does get about you know to the 25% mark uh but other than that no report we'll talk about other stuff later and 100th anniversary coming up looking forward to it you said 7,61 mhm
okay uh council member uh no report tonight council member Bart oh yeah so um Aubber was a was a great event um so we uh enjoy doing that and uh helping out contributing to that so a
good number of people came out for that and got their two trees 100th anniversary um the other thing about that is there's shuttle service uh that'll be running for that uh one from city hall and one from the aquatic center right Lisa yeah so that's that's
very helpful definitely city hall is a short walk across the street to uh to get to the event uh aquatic center is not too far but there is a shuttle that's running as as well so be nice it's going to be a great event uh we got an Elton John uh tribute band uh
Stormtroopers uh dancing the fireworks uh the bag pipes and uh drum section to start off so it should be a very nice day we also got um water safety day coming up on May 3rd um so that's going
to be at the aquatic center it's 11:00 a.m to 3:00 p.m have we really put that out on uh social media mhm i've seen it yeah so another great you know thing to kind of educate people as we come into the summer and then uh people getting into the pools a lot so that's a great
activity that they put out there you got Mother and Sundance coming up on May 10th um at the uh at the cultural center so that would be good um we brought it up in the beginning uh it was a uh a
great turnout uh for officer Torres um uh for the ceremony there it's uh very sad and very tragic when we have something like that happen fortunately I don't think we have it happen very often um but it was a great turnout uh there
um I think Chief I think you must have had almost the entire department anybody who wasn't on on shift um Chief U Woodard thank you for you guys being out and the ladder truck and the flag i think all of us were there uh just u just a great turnout and again a show of
uh how much we appreciate public safety so and that's all I got right Council Member Britain uh I'll just piggyback on that i was very proud of the turnout and the support the chief both chiefs actually uh supported the the families
and the fiance and I know you you're going to keep on doing that so hopefully they can take it a day at a time and and get through this i also want to send out a shout out to one of Oto's senior leaders and citizen Oilia Moore
uh who I've known for probably 30 years uh celebrated her 90th birthday this weekend so I just want to birthday 95th 95th okay someone told me Mr jackson said it was 90th so anyway happy 95th birthday but uh that's a wonderful
family and they they have uh been very uh very good for this city so I guess I'm last so uh the mayor and I were invited to Tri County on the 24th um I guess we both get a plus one so if
anybody else is interested the this Thursday this Thursday yep um I'll be attending I believe so it's so yeah so the league of mayors so the mayor and deputy mayor invited and um yeah anybody else so I don't know if anybody's free if you are just let us know i've got it
i know it's short notice m is is coming okay uh the night of champions I can't go to so I don't know if you want to open that one up to Oh yeah anybody want to go to night of champions it's really cool it's the Simol County I'll email around about it but Siminal County recognizes all of the top athletes uh over at Hagerty High School every year
it's really really inspirational and with that I just uh hope to see you all this Saturday it should be a lot of fun i know a lot of hard work went into it is there anything else for the good of the order it is
9:00 and this meeting is adjourned