So, we should have gather ourselves. You don't have to Nice try. This one Hey, >> well it wasn't CR
>> that'll happen one day. >> Yeah, next day. I don't think Megan, Megan, Megan. How about my hug? I'm sorry. Hallelujah. How you doing? >> Every now and then
Interesting. I'm talking about extension cords. >> I was like, I don't know about >> even the extension cord. >> [laughter] >> No, I mean you're not supposed to do that cuz it's, you know, fire and everything. Yeah, couches are flammable. >> I've been told >> everything is flammable.
>> Yeah. >> Mike's neighbors. >> Look how fast all your pulled up. Was it pulled up? We've got here. >> No. I didn't forget my password. So, >> forget password
changed. I didn't do anything. So, now locked out. >> There you go. >> No, no, not none of this. But if I log out of anything, it won't be able to get back in. I didn't change my password instructed with plenty of notice.
>> Mhm. >> You can still do it from that computer back there. >> Yeah. only from there if I can remember what my current password is. >> Isn't it under the keyboard in the >> It should be. >> It should be. Yeah. >> In the in the office.
>> Yeah. Everybody here just >> or you stick it to the monitor on the front. >> That way you don't have to. >> All right. Welcome to Ovito City Council Chambers. If you could please join me in the pledge of allegiance. I allegiance to the flag [clears throat]
of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Please join me in a moment of silence. I would like to call our meeting to order. It is August 3rd at approximately
6:30 p.m. and we have all members of council present. We're going to start out with our ceremonial items, but I think we have Mr. Keith Coons who's going to come up and present on our uh chambers exhibition. >> Good evening. On behalf of the Ovido
Public Arts Board, I am very happy to introduce our latest artist for the Art in the Chambers series, uh, Patricia Pope, and her works will be Brightening Up Your City Council Chamber for the
next several months. And I'd like to introduce her at this time. And would you like to describe your art for just a a couple minutes? >> Yes, I would. Um, I do silk paintings
and batique. Um, >> can we make sure you're right in the mic just so they can >> to speak into the mic? >> Yes. Thank you. >> Yes. Okay. >> It's for our YouTube fans. We got a lot of them. >> All right. We start out with an idea as
it you do in any kind of artwork and you trace it to silk. So I just brought my one thing to show you how it is uh that I work with. This is my canvas >> and so it's pinned to PVC pipes. That's
not the first thing I've done but uh that's worked very well [music] for me. And I would like to thank this council for electing me to be in the in the chambers. And I'm delighted to be here,
I can tell you. And I hope it opens up for all the artists in Ovida so we can plan to exhibit here. So >> thank you. Did we want to go down and take one? >> My silk is done. Uh, I use dyes
and a resist of some kind of a resist. It's called ga or it's um a sizing or it's hot wax. Those two in the corner over there were done with hot wax. >> So you do it like batique sort of. >> Yeah, this is batique. Okay.
>> Uh I I combine the methods. Uh the fish for instance is one layer is batique and the other layer is silk painting. So, it's put together. >> So, are there any questions? >> Can we do a picture with you and we each
pull one off the wall and hold it? So, there's lots of art in the picture. >> Okay. >> Okay. Luna. [laughter] >> I got to get the jellyfish. >> You got to get the jellyfish. >> Yes. So for everybody, >> so I ended up here on Friday for a sneak
peek with my six-year-old son, and his favorite is the jellyfish. And Mrs. Pope is my teacher from history in middle school. >> It was more gifted too. So she was very gifted and did work very well.
>> And once she let me make an Incan village out of Rice Krispie treats and brownies as my final exam [laughter] and I remember it. >> Good memory. They're glaring.
>> Thank you for sharing your art. >> Yeah. Thank you for loaning us all this for a season. Oh yeah, sideways. >> Give it the old >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> I really hope it doesn't.
>> All right, we will move on to our second order of business, which is the approval of minutes for the June 29th work session. What is the pleasure of councel? >> I'll make a motion to approve the minutes of June 29th, 2026 work session. We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion?
No. >> All those in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. I. >> All those opposed. The motion carries. We will move on [clears throat] to our public comment section of our meeting. I do have a written request to speak. If I call your name, please come up and state
your name. Uh I have uh Gabby Manguel. I wrote some notes but didn't time it. Um, good evening. My name is Gabby Mangle. I'm an Ovito resident. Um, today I'm here to ask council to reconsider resolution 4653-25
and Ovito's use of flock cameras. When this resolution was approved, Flock was presented as a public public safety tool and a force multiplier. One argument was that real-time license plate readers could reduce dangerous pursuits and allow police to apprehend someone later under safer circumstances. But
technology does not decide when, where, or how arrests occur. Police do. While researching this topic, I came across a press release from today where Sheriff Grady Jud discussed a police shooting in Lakeland in which a FL in which Flack reportedly helped locate a person with an outstanding warrant. According to
this press statement, the officers confronted him in a shopping plaza where he was parked in front of a subway. Multiple rounds were fired at the suspect, thus at the subway. The suspect ended up dead. Now, the suspect chose to engage police. And I'm not excusing that conduct or discussing anything that the
police did during that interaction. But this incident does raise a necessary question. If Flock was supposed to reduce danger by allowing officers to choose a safer time and place, how did locating this person result in an armed confrontation in a populated shopping plaza? Flock may help police find
someone, but finding someone is not the same as making public safe the public safer. There are a bunch of constitutional rights that have been discussed. Um, one thing that I wanted to point out was that in all of the Fourth Amendment um, trials that the Supreme Court has looked at and a lot of
the rulings that have been discussed when discussing flock cameras, one of the biggest things that I took away from that was that geofencing searches can happen. They can a warrant can be allowed for that, but a geoence search is you need a warrant for it. That is a
Fourth Amendment search. By installing these cameras all over our community without our consent, you are now having a citywide geoence search running at all times, regardless of whether a crime has been committed or not. I completely understand the desire to bring more
safety and that this is a tool that could possibly do that, but I'm just not seeing how we couldn't do that with old um license plate readers, right? have been a thing where we can see where a car has gone, where a plate has has been tracked with specific plates when we're
searching for specific people, but just generally survey surveill surveilling our entire city just doesn't sit right. And so I'm asking that council suspend or reconsider this program and hold a public workshop before it continues. At
minimum, I'd like to see a publicly adopted policy limiting a lot of things that are already in the policy that was stated to be followed from Semino County, such as um limiting historical searches, inter agency sharing, custom hot lists, data retention, and AI
searches, required documented case numbers, and supervisory approval. Consider a warrant requirement for tracking a person's movement, and publish regular independent audits. I realize, like I said, that these policies may already exist within the police department. However, from what I've understood, these are internal
policies and the council and public has no oversight of this. Residents should not have to surrender their privacy simply to be told that an unproven surveillance system makes us safer. Thank you. >> Thank you. I do not have any other written request to speak. Is there anyone that would like to address
council at this time? Hearing none. And seeing none, I will close public comment and we will move on to the consent agenda. What is the pleasure of councel? >> I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Any discussion?
>> Okay. The clerk will call the role. >> Council member >> I. >> Mayor Slate. >> I. >> Deputy Mayor Tukurt. >> I. >> Council member Britain >> I. >> Council member >> I. >> The motion carries. We do not have any public hearings. So we will move on to
the first reading of ordinances. Item number six, which is ordinance number 1773, the zoning map amendment from PUB to PUD for the Ovito Marketplace. Uh Mr. Cobb or I'm sorry, can we read the uh ordinance by title only, please?
>> Yes. Ordinance number 1773, an ordinance of the city of Ovidto, Florida, amending the zoning map of the city of Ovido concerning approximately 44.75 acres of land generally located on the west side of SR417 and the south side of Ovito Mall Boulevard from planned unit
development to planned unit development and approving an amendment to the amended and restated planned unit development development agreement for the Avito marketplace and providing for findings and providing for legislative intent, implementing actions a savings provision, correction of scriveners
errors conflicts codification severability, and an effective date. Thank you, Mr. Cop. >> Uh, thank you, Deputy Mayor. This is a request to amend the uh amended and restated develop plan unit development agreement for the Avido Marketplace plan unit development. It essentially is to
allow a kennel to be placed in the uh uh into the regional shopping center land use within the development agreement. I'm going to turn it over to Miss Pierre and she's going to give the staff's presentation. Uh it is recommended that city council schedule a public hearing
for August 17, 2026. >> Good evening, mayor, deputy mayors, and city council members. Um tonight you're asked to consider um approving ordinance 1773. This is the first reading of the ordinance and uh Mr. Dav is correct.
This is a zoning map amendment from planned unit um development to planned unit development and it's to allow for a kennel to be located within one of the units within the mall. Um the applicant is um save a life pet rescue and what
they are currently operating in the mall today. Um they're not housing the animals overnight. So their operation >> can we pick the mic up? It's kind of fallen. They are proposing now um to
house animals overnight. So in order to do that they have to amend the development agreement um for the mall. The mall currently the development agreement for the mall currently allows C1 and C use C2 uses um in the
development agreement for that property. Um kenno is allowed in C1 and C2. However, it's not allowed within shopping centers. that is prohibited in shopping centers unless it's a standalone building. And so this one is not a standalone building. It's located
within the mall itself, the regional shopping center. So therefore, we have to do a DA amendment in order to allow it explicitly in the development agreement. Next slide, please. So that this is the location map um of the mall
and you'll see the red hatched area is considered the regional shopping center area. Next slide. So this is the existing language in the development agreement and um you'll see
the proposed language in the development agreement and this is what was sent to the LPA. So um staff's recommendation at the time was you'll see the underlined language which says kennel the kennel shall be sufficiently insulated so that
no unreasonable noise or odor can be detected from the unit. And we took a look at different um cities to see how they allow kennels. And we saw that some of the cities um place the no noise or
odor um that can be detected from um the unit. And as you know today it is a prohibited use within shopping centers. So that's something that we um saw in other cities. Next slide please.
So the LPA considered um the amendment on July 7th and at the July 7th the LPA members raised um a lot of concerns. Um the vote was 4 to three and that's how contentious it was. Some of the concerns
that came out were the noise, um the odor, um whether or not they're going to have people um any attendance after hours um for the animals there and also how many kennels can be allowed in the
shopping center. So at that time the previous language didn't have any limitation on the number of kennels that can be located um within the regional shopping center. So after the LPA meeting um staff and the applicant as
well as our um city attorney um we discussed some of the concerns from the LPA and one of the things that we were able to do is to limit the number of kennels within the regional shopping center to one. So you'll see the new language that says kennels kennel
limited to one. The kennel shall be sufficiently insulated so that no unreasonable noise or odor can be detected from the unit. So the only new language from LPA was the limited to one. Next slide.
So this is basically what's contained within the development agreement, the proposed development agreement. So staff recommends um that city council read ordinance 1773 by title only and schedule a public hearing for August
17th, 2026. The applicant is also here tonight and they are if you would like for them to do a presentation, they are here available to do so. >> Okay. Thank you very much. Uh did we want to have the applicant do the presentation? >> Yeah. >> Yep. Okay. If you guys would like to
come up. Thank you. >> Hi, how are you? Uh my name is Tamara Grindle Marshall and I am president of Save Alive Pet Rescue. Um we have been uh here in Ovido for 20 years and um we have saved over 30,000 pets um right
here from Ovido. So real quick in our presentation I want to go through a little bit of an overview our history how we came to be in the Ovito Mall um and then why that Ovito Mall PUD is necessary um and then go ahead and
address some concerns that we heard during our last meeting. Next slide, please. Um, so we are a nonprofit 501c3. Um, we are identifying puppies primarily that are in need at highkill shelters
throughout the southeast, predominantly in Georgia, Alabama, North Florida, uh, lower socioeconomic areas where there's a lot of these puppies. Um, too many for those shelters to manage. Um, and unfortunately since um, their mission
really is disease management, a lot of those puppies get euthanized, um, most of them are less than eight weeks old. Um, so we have a good relationship with those shelters and we coordinate the transportation of those adoptable pets. We provide the medical care and we adopt
them out right here in Ovido. Up until about 10 months ago, um, we were functioning outside of PetSmart. We had a really good relationship with PetSmart and Ovito. Um, again, 20 years strong, but um, the elements were definitely getting to our pups and our
volunteers and the logistics were just kind of unmanageable. Um, so we decided to see what was out there and we found a suite in the Ovito Mall and we went ahead and signed a lease there. Um, you'll see in a future SI slide that there's some language in our lease that
allows us to keep the pets there um for adoptions and it sneaks into the overnight care of some of these animals as well, which obviously we haven't done up until this time. We hope that's approved. Um, next slide, please. Um, so again, some of our statistics, 20 years
we've been around, over 40,000 saved. um they're really coming from really sad situations, but um we're finding on average about 20 plus pets a home every single weekend. Um adoptions are Fridays and Saturdays right outside the
Obito Mall. Next slide, please. Um if you can see, there's a little rectangle um kind of to the right of the screen. If you walk in the Obito Mall facing the movie theater, you would then turn left and they're just a couple suites down from there. Um it's approximately 5,500
ft² that suite. Next slide, please. So this is the lease language. So um operation of a nonprofit pet rescue and adoption center including the temporary housing, care and display of adoptable dogs and puppies, volunteer and
community engagement programs, and related fundraising activities. Lency may also host adoption related events, educational program, and corporate cuddle experiences with adoptable animals. It's how we do a lot of fundraising. Any overnight housing of
animals shall be limited solely to the dogs in the care of the rescue awaiting adoption and shall not constitute commercial boarding or daycare services for the general public. Lency shall not provide grooming, retail boarding or daycare services in conflict with any
existing tenant exclusives within the shopping center uses contingent upon the ongoing license and/or management approval and for no other use whatsoever. Next slide please. Um so we need this
overnight stay provision um in order at the Oval Mall POD. Um the case would be to help reduce stress. We want to reduce stress on the particular pets. They're being transported to the suite day of adoptions. Um it's very active couple
hours. Um most of them get adopted thankfully, which is great. Um but we would like the opportunity to let those individuals stay overnight, specifically Friday to Saturday, for example, the way we're structured currently. um so that they can just rest um and not have to
get just shuffled around again. Um the stress on our fosters family, our foster families and the rescue is pretty great as well. There's a lot of coordination. There's families involved. There's a lot of time and money spent on gas for example.
This would um help relieve a lot of that stress for our group. Um and again, [cough] the cost savings and transportation and whatnot is pretty great. Next slide, please. We are definitely a community event. Um, we have a huge volunteer base. Um, I'd
say at least 100 volunteers at any given time. Certain times of the year, we crawl closer to 200. Um, we support Bright Futures. We have a lot of Bright Future students that come through. Um, a lot of UCF students that come through. We have the UCF football team coming out in the next couple weeks to come help us
out with an event. We do things like puppy yoga, puppy classes, trying to help families um you know recognize how they can create a better environment for their for babies. Um these corporate cuddle experiences are really good um
experiences for for people in their companies and again that's a good fundraising event for our group. Next slide please. So um this slide basically addresses a lot of the concerns um that were coming up in our last meeting. We've been in
our space in the Ovito Mall for the last 10 months. Um there haven't been any concerns, complaints of odor or noise. Um if we're noisy and we have odor, we don't adopt dogs and that's our mission. So this is a great concern for us as
well. It's got to be clean. Um and we don't want people leaving because it smells bad. Um, we're fortunate that the space has its a its own h HVAC, so the exchange of air is sufficient. Um, and the units uh are pretty powerful, which
is good, too. Um, we have a 1-hour firewall that helps prevent um noise from traveling between the different suites as well. Um, and there's even a huge corridor, which you'll see in a future slide. Um, that also has is a
very good barrier, too. The walls have acoustic tiles and we have carpeting um sorry walls on acoustic tiles on the ceiling and then the carpetings on the walls that really helps with the sound concern and we do
keep a high functioning immunity machine air purifier system within our unit as well. That's been very effective for the puppies themselves. They sleep in shavings or on towels. Towels are not laundered. They're actually disposed of. So we just get rid of them. Um that seems to be the best way to manage that.
And uh we have lots of volunteers. So um puppy poop patrol, those volunteers are critical. Anytime someone has an accident, we clean it up pretty quickly. Um and we use lots of disinfectants just to keep things clean. We don't want any kind of diseases getting between the
pups either. So cleanliness is definitely uh very important to us. Um, so our current plan is if there's pets allowed to stay overnight, uh, we'll have volunteers take care of those pets first thing in the morning, walk them, feed them, whatever their needs are, um,
and just prepare for the next day. Um, and keeping everybody happy and sound. If for any reason a pet's not doing well in that environment, obviously we'll coordinate with a foster to get them out of that situation. Um, that's a standard operating procedure within shelter medicine anyway. Um, another concern was
making sure that there's emergency contact. There's at least three of us that are local, um, plus others. That would be very easy to leave a list, um, and have somebody there very quickly to handle an emergency should one come up. Um, and an evacuation plan. Our
evacuation plan would be if there's a named storm, we would just remove the animals from from the location. Um, next slide, please. Uh just images of our HVAC, our unit um trying to give you an idea for how separate it is from the
other units in the mall. And next slide, please. Um so this is the corridor separating I believe the one on the left is an external wall with the onehour firewall and the internal wall would be an entrance to our suite. Again, another 1 hour firewall. Um so we're pretty well
protected. there's a good barrier there for us uh to address noise concerns and and obviously fire um as well as smell. And next slide, please. Uh images of the carpeted walls as well as the acoustic ceiling here. Um our suites divided in
half essentially. There's like the front half is adoption center. Um this is the majority of the suite would be the adoption center. This is where the pets are housed when they're actually out for adoption. Um and then the back end of the suite um
we could create a barrier to also help with um more noise control should that be necessary. And next slide again. So this is the back end. You can see the HVAC unit. Um you can see we have plenty of space um to use pop-up kennels and
whatnot. um easy to clean um and easy to um exit out our back door and be able to, you know, take any dirty laundry needing to be be disposed of um in the dumpster outside. Um it's a straight shot. And next slide, the left is our
air purifier. The right is an example of the puppy corral that we use. So puppies at this age do best um in their litters. So, we'll put a couple of them together in these little puppy pools with shavings. Um, they have free access to
water. Um, this is how the puppies are presented during the adoption events. And next slide. There you go. Evidence. There are puppies. Um, again, emergency preparedness and severe weather plan. That was a concern that came up during
our last meeting. Um, we do not want the pets staying overnight in that kind of situation. So, we would house them um with our fosters. We have a very strong foster program. Um, and again, we've got three, easily three emergency contacts
we can keep. Um, and make sure that two are going to stay local in Ovido at all times. Um, the safety and well-being of our animals and our volunteers and our community is our highest priority. And next slide again. So, this is an email we sent to the
Ovito Mall just asking them to [sighs] answer in red some of those concerns that came up during the first meeting. Um, the first one, um, I'm sorry, I can't read that. [laughter] U, that's a little small for me. So, I [clears throat] believe it's addressing
noise and odor, and there's been no complaints year to date uh, the last 10 months. Um, does the space occupied by Save a Life Pet Rescue have its own separate air conditioning? Yes, that's been addressed. Are the walls enclosed in the space constructed one hour
firewall prevention? Yes, they are. Are the walls enclosed enclosing the open public space fully carpeted floor to ceiling? Yes, they are. Um, is there a separate back room? Yes.
um constructed with a space that could serve as housing for overnight stay of these pets? Yes. Next slide, please. Um does the signed contract with Save a Life Pet Rescue contain a provision that allows for overnight stays of the
adoptable dogs? Yes, it does. Um seven, is there a dumpster near the back entrance? Yes, there is. Easy access. Is there a backdoor entry that could be used to evacuate the animals in an emergency? Yes, it's pretty easy to access. And lastly, is there an
overnight security staff in the mall that would be able to contact Save a Life in the event of an abnormal event during closed mall hours? Yes. Um, next slide please. So, in summary, um the amendment is consistent with the rescue's lease
agreement, which allows for the overnight stay of dogs and adoptable puppies. There are sufficient remedies already in place to help mitigate these concerns, um including noise and odor being the top two. The rescue has proven
a proven track record of positive mall occupancy impact. There's we've gotten a lot of foot traffic through the mall. A lot of positive feedback. Um and has sufficiently demonstrated overnight stays for the animals will not change any of that. The rescue's occupancy in
the Ovita mall is good for the Ovito as a community and good for the mall as a whole. And is there one more or is that it there? Thank you. [laughter] >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thanks. What is the pleasure of council? I'll make a motion to schedule a public
hearing for August 17, 2026. >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Second. Any discussion? Council Broadford. >> So, I just want to make sure I'm clear on this. So, the business is or the 501c is only open
>> two days. It's Friday and Saturday and the overnights would only be Friday nights. >> That that's currently how we're structured. Our goal should we have enough means and volunteers and whatnot would be to open more days. Um but I would not suggest doing that overnight.
That would be a slow we would start with same procedure we've always had with the option of having you know trials pets stay overnight make sure it works well for everyone involved. Um and then if that's successful then maybe we open a third day and offer adoptions on a third
day. And if that's successful, roll forward from there. Not not anything too quick. That's not in the best interest of any of these parties. >> So then it would [clears throat] if you opened a third day, the the overnights would only be basically that first and second day.
>> Yeah. These pets do really well in kennels. Um they do understand that that's a safe space for them. Um and oftent times these adoption events are a lot for them. I would imagine that after a few days, if they have not been
adopted, they need a break. And again, that's a standard operating procedure in shelter medicine. Give them a break. Yeah. >> All right. No, I'm I'm good. Thanks. >> Okay. >> About how many pets do you have overnight in any given situation? >> Um [sighs]
I mean, currently the way we're functioning, you're talking up to 10, but I don't really know if it'd be more than one or two or 10 or Okay. Yeah, I >> I just wonder rough numbers. Yeah, I and I don't have any more questions. So, if you wanted to sit down, I do have some
thoughts to to bounce off of everybody else. Um, so I've got no concerns at all with save a life operating there, having pets overnight, up to 10 pets overnight, one day a week, 3 days a week, however many days a week.
My concern is that this is not a zoning for life. This is something that anybody could utilize. So a puppy mill could come in or you know some I guess puppy mills are greatly limited under Florida law at this point, but you some some bad actor could come in and do something we
do not approve of. Um, so I think we might need to work with the language a little bit more between now and the final hearing to figure out how to limit the time, limit the quantity, maybe even limit it to only a nonprofit group can
do this. I mean, I I don't know how far we can go in a developers agreement before we have gotten too uh too specific. So, if you've got any feedback for how we might be able to do that, I would be interested in seeing if council
is okay adding some of these narrowing restrictions. So, so the wrong thing doesn't end up happening there. >> Okay. Should we go down the line with questions and then come back to >> Okay. Oh, yeah. Questions and then come back. Okay. Council member.
>> Yeah. Um, so I'm looking at the developer agreement here and and the modification we're making to it. And I I didn't think about this until uh just a minute ago, but it's we're modifying it and we're saying kennel uh limit to one,
but there's already the one that's not in the main building. It's in that out building part of the same PUD. How does how does that work? It's not part of the regional shopping center. It's actually a separate parcel um of land and it is
an out parcel as well, but the regional shopping center is the actual mall. So, that one is going in what was the Sears building and it has its own parallel ID number and it's an out parcel. It's not considered part of the regional shopping center. >> And so, it's not just the regional. It
is part of the but it's not part of the regional shopping center within the PUB. >> Okay. not part of that paragraph B. >> Yes. >> Okay, that's I assumed it was something like that. Um and I was looking at the map and yes, it's not in that hashed off area, but I just want to make sure that
we got uh that part right. Um thank you. >> Um so okay, so as far as the >> your concerns, mayor. Um so this is I mean this is the developer agreement. I mean we're not changing what a a zoning type or anything means. I mean I know
you know that. It kind of is because the PUB is creative parcel by partial zoning with its own spec rules. >> It's only for this one. >> Let's get through questions. Okay. Questions. Yeah. >> Okay. >> I just wanted to go down the line with questions from everybody and then we'll
go through discussion. Okay. Yeah. >> Did you have more questions or >> uh I don't think so. No. >> Okay. Council member Brit. >> I think uh what the mayor brought up is something we ought to look into. I was more concerned with enforcement of the the agreement and how we would do that. Not that you're not going to break the
agreement or anything like that, but again, down the line, if something should happen and someone else should come in, how does that how does that play out? >> Okay. And I will say I wanted to thank the applicant too for addressing pretty much all the concerns from the LPA. They had a really lively good discussion, but
you guys pretty much went through all of it. So, I really appreciate that feedback and taking that seriously. Um, so, okay, mayor, if you want to kind of open up what you're looking at. >> All right. I I just want to make sure that we are from a policy perspective because that we we all like the idea of
of everything you presented, I think. Um, [clears throat] I sure do, but I don't like the idea of this existing until such time like we can't take it back. So, if we put into effect some rules that some bad actor does 30 years from now, well, that's no good. So to
what extent can we tinker with this without going sideways? >> And I do think puppy mills are illegal at this point. Yeah. Like so I I was also wondering they are. So I was wondering >> there was some kind of effort to get rid of puppy mills. >> I I'm pretty sure they're legal for
several years at this point, but I thought originally maybe that's why they kept this out and didn't allow it, but now that they're illegal, that concern is kind of gone. Like >> illegal. >> Illegal. >> Okay. Oh, I was going to say I'm pretty sure they're not allowed anymore. We're on the same page. Yeah. >> So, like that would be a concern if they
were. >> But still, uh, if the mall were to drop its thought of, well, you can't have overnight boarding. Well, we I guess the PUB Well, what does it say? Let me pull that up. But in the meantime, I would
like some legal feedback on the extent to which we can add in things like, well, you have to be a nonprofit if you're operating such a a place out of like, can we limit it in that way? Well, my understanding is that you're you're amending an existing development agreement. Um, so the the question would
become what exactly are you attempting to limit with the language kennel? So, currently obviously the the new language is just going to say a kennel that must be sufficiently insulated so no unreasonable noise or odor. I think you would want to work backward from what types of kennel adjacent businesses are
you attempting to avoid. Um, and then we can go from there. But remind me that >> well it's not kennel adjacent businesses I'm trying to stop from doing I'm try trying to keep anybody except for them that like that's my goal is to keep anybody but [laughter] those guys from doing this thing which
makes it not really a PUD developers agreement question and I I don't know how we >> address if there is a way if there's a mechanism to address that. Well, does does kennel have a legal definition perhaps that even? >> No. >> No.
>> No. >> Then what did we write it in for? I guess [laughter] what are we hoping to accomplish with the word kennel then? >> Okay. We do have a definition for kennel in our land development code and it allows overnight stays. And that was one of the concerns from the LPA is that you
can have multiple kennels um in the shopping center. And so how do we limit it? So, we wanted to limit it to one, but we also saw their agreement with the mall and it does limit it to nonprofits. So, perhaps I mean, that's not us. I
don't know if we can we do that, too. >> We considered it, but we didn't talk it over with legal. So, that's something that we can talk over with legal. >> Okay. >> If it's the council's direction. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yeah, >> that that's mainly what I'd like to see.
uh narrow it down limit to the number of overnight stays because if you're a puppy mill presumably there might well there's you wouldn't be a puppy mill not in Florida if you are some other kind of unimagined I idea hver breeding labradoodles
legitimately at the mall um I I can see how this could kind of get weirdo >> what if you were a a like commercial kennel Would that be a problem? >> Maybe. I don't know. We We get a lot of flak from people in this city because we
have >> limited um abil a limited ability to control what happens at the mall. And I'm a little bit libertarian and thinking, yeah, if if I I dogs, if the mall owners like dogs, let's go for it. Um but I do want to make sure that if
these guys aren't in it and somebody comes in and does the worst possible thing allowed under this, it's really bad. I'm just not hearing what the worst possible thing is that would be any different than what they would be doing. Maybe you're talking about okay potential if you could say >> overnight multiple like forever overnight like should a pet shop be
allowed in the mall? I got no problem with that. That seems okay. But maybe there should be a limit to 10 call out no more than 10 dogs on site. Something like that. If we're able to call out only nonprofits can do this,
that would th those two things would greatly limit, you know, who might be interested in having a kennel. >> I'm so sorry, I need to add that we have an enforcement mechanism as well that we have to keep in mind. Um, so we would
have to go out and monitor how many dogs are in that kennel um if we put language in there of that effect. So, we'll want to kind of keep in mind how would we enforce what we put into this language, what we put into the development
agreement. So, the more details you get, the more we would have to go out and enforce. What could we not ride into here? That we are allowed to go into the room and count the dogs if anybody complains about it. I seems like a >> I feel like there's there's a lot of safeguards on this already, right? We're
already good against like noise and smell and there's also the mall overseeing their own area. Um I I feel like we checked a lot of boxes here. So I guess I'm not >> not seeing >> whether you have five dogs or 15, they're still limited by noise. We know
that's not their intent. I know we're looking for if someone else were to come in, but I'm I'm not seeing an extreme situation we're missing. >> I mean, if you can name one, I I like agree. We should put a safeguard. I just can't think of one. I I just think the number to my concern I I immediately went to I I have little kids. I thought
what about the waste? Where does the waste go? And people wonder you where does the waste go at the dog park? Well, I'm pretty sure we squirt it into Center Lake. Um so I I I guess if we could write in something addressing [laughter]
the I don't I I think I guess mayor we don't have like a proposed thing to put in. Well, maybe we can floor to vote on if if you want to add it. I >> We're only scheduling a public hearing. >> Yeah, we're scheduling a public hearing, but we should not show up last minute and then have all the ideas. And I don't
have a whole lot of ideas right now cuz >> Okay. >> Well, if we don't have something concrete right now, I [laughter] we got to vote on what we have here. So, I will ask the clerk to call the vote. >> Can I Can I Oh, okay. Do >> you got an idea? >> Oh, were we going to go discussion? Yeah,
>> we never did really discuss. This is discussed. >> We just did. >> Oh, well, >> did you have something to propose for the vote? >> No. Well, uh, [clears throat] >> I didn't get to say the thing. Well, I the previous part was questions and I I was I was trying to get in there. Okay.
Thank you. I'm sorry. Uh, yeah. So, the way I feel about this is that the mall is kind of a long way from everything, right? Mhm. >> Um except for that there are multiple property owners, but they're part of the same PUD. And were did any of the other
property owners within that [snorts] PUD, I mean, presumably they were noticed, right? Because that's what you have to do for an ordinance. Uh did anybody come back and say, "We don't want this. This is going to affect
>> No, we didn't get We send out um notices um of the public hearings." So, we did one for LPA. The next um public hearing is going to be later this month. So, if anyone comes, they'll come because of the post-it signs as well as as the property owner notices. But, we didn't
have anyone at LPA um to contest the proposal. >> Okay. All right. Well, I think we should kind of live and let live here. I mean the if the mall wants it and they're not right on top of somebody else that is
going to say not to do it then I don't know why we wouldn't allow them to do it. That's all. >> Okay. I will ask the clerk to call the role. >> Council member Bford >> I. >> Mayor Slick >> I. >> Deputy Mayor Jerk. >> I. >> Council member Written >> I.
>> Council member >> I. >> The motion carries. We will move on to item number seven, ordinance number 1775, the deletion of code and ordinances section 42-3 back backing into angle parking prohibited, which is very good
timing. If the city attorney could read this by title only. Yes, this is ordinance number 1775, an ordinance of the city of Ovito, Florida, deleting section 42-3 backing into angle parking prohibited from the code of ordinances of the city of Ovidito, Florida, and providing for legislative findings and
intent, implementing administrative actions conflicts separability codification, the correction of scriveners errors, and an effective date. Thank you, Mr. Cobb. >> Uh thank you, Deputy Mayor. This is a request. Uh if you remember from the
July 20th uh CRA governing board meeting, we were you received a uh an update on the construction of Citizen Lane. Citizen Lane has been designed and constructed with reverse angle parking and it was brought up during the meeting
that uh we currently have a um a prohibition on uh backing into angled parking spaces. And so with the reverse angle parking, that's what you actually do. You back into the angled parking spaces. And our code of ordinances has
the the prohibition is part of section 42-3 of the code of ordinances. And and uh Miss Bu, if you could put that up. This is this is section 42-3. And we took a look at the the uh the language in there and we tried to
manipulate it to somehow make a distinction between reverse angle parking and what we think would be called forward angle parking. And after many many attempts, we found out that it was going to be best to just recommend deleting this section from the code of ordinances. And that's what this
ordinance does. It deletes section 42-3 from the code of ordinances. and uh it's recommended that you uh schedule a public hearing for August 17th, 2026. >> Thank you, Mr. Cobb. What is the pleasure of council? >> I'll make a motion to schedule a public hearing for Monday, August 17, 2026
>> for ordinance number 1775. >> Correct. >> Excellent. Second. We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? >> No. >> Mayor, got to be done. We're out. >> I parked backwards out there just to try it out. So I think it's good.
>> All right. If the clerk call the role. >> Council member Bodford. >> I. >> Mayor Slick. >> I. >> Deputy Mayor Tukurt. >> I Britain. >> I. >> Council member. >> I. >> The motion carries. We do not have any resolution items or discussion items. So we are on to the city manager report.
>> Uh thank you deputy mayor. I believe at the last meeting we had a discussion item on uh the amendment three public meetings that we're planning and council asked us if we could look at uh not using the library but using the cultural
center and Mr. Kelly has an update on he contacted cultural center and he has an update on that. Uh good evening, mayor, deputy mayor, city council members. As Mr. Cobb uh said, we were looking into uh dates for the cultural center for the first of
three proposed amendment three info sessions. Uh we spoke with the staff over there and uh the 16th that we had originally discussed of September uh was available. Uh and we also uh looked at the 22nd of September as a backup date
just in case. Um uh but yes, the 16th of September is available if council is interested. >> Everybody good with the 16th still? >> That's what we said last time. >> September 16th. Yeah, that's what we said last time. >> I should be okay. >> Okay, I think we're good on that one.
>> Okay, thank you. >> At the cultural center. Thank you, >> Mr. Cop. That's all I have, Deputy Mayor. Thank you. >> All right. City attorney's report. >> I don't have anything for you, Deputy Mayor. Thank you. >> Okay. Council member Britain. >> I don't have a report tonight. So,
>> I guess I'm up. Uh I was waiting for a second to look at my list here. [laughter] Uh we have the first week of school starting on Monday, so uh expect a little traffic pickup, but I know my kids are really excited. And we also have the uh Florida League Cities Conference next week. So, I know several
of us are attending. So, I'm looking forward to that. But other than that, I do not have anything on Oh, I did want to address the um woman who spoke earlier on the flat cameras and chief. I know we we kind of addressed almost all of that when we originally discussed
them and I think she had a list. So, I'd like to look at that um after, but I think we do have that in our policies behind the scenes. So, I don't know if council's against looking at making that public on what are our policies on who can access and not access and how it
works. Um, I don't think that's a bad idea. Just to be transparent about how the city operates those cameras. Um, so I don't know if that's for the next meeting if we want to look into doing something like that. Um, if you guys are on board making sure we're as transparent as possible.
>> Yeah, definitely. >> Okay. Thank you. Um, Mayor Slick. All right. I'm getting a lot of calls about kids on ebikes and uh I know at one point we were working on our own ordinance for this and then we sort of paused because the county was going to
do it and then the state was going to do it so the county paused. Uh but neither the state nor the county has done it and we have a recurring issue that is you it's constant conflict over especially at Sitter Lake Park. So if council is on board with the idea I think we should
revive this as soon as we can. so we can get a little clarity about whether we ride the ebikes on the chessboard and down the stairs and on the splash pad and things like this. Um, everybody cool with this? >> I definitely think we need to
>> All right. Do we have a timeline yet for when the one that was started will be revived? >> It's It's already revived. It's ready. It's already revived. Um, actually, Miss Miss Simons is the one that's been working on it with the police department, so I I'll defer to her to as
far as where she is. I know I I reviewed it last week and sent her my comments for it. So, um, >> I'm working Thank you. I'm working through your comments currently and I'm going to have that turn back around to you as quickly as possible. So, it should be soon that it will be um in your inboxes to review or in your inbox
to review, I suppose. >> Okay. >> All right. the sooner the better because school starts next week and uh our our school board has not banned ebikes from school so they will be traversing all the places. Uh, also wanted to bring up the thought of potentially allowing the
League of Women Voters some space either here, the cultural center somewhere, uh, as a third party neutral group to do, uh, some education about the amendments, not just amendment three, but all of them. Um, I don't especially want to go to any of the ones that the city's
doing. And we are having a a super casual meeting here Wednesday at noon for anybody who wants to talk about amendment three. and you know, who knows where that conversation will go. Um, but I I do have some concerns about us being
the ones to present info and I know it's still early, so I I don't know what it would sound like yet, but as as it has shaped up so far, it's kind of I don't I'd rather the League of Women Voters do it. So, I guess the ask in here is, is this something that council might
entertain allowing this nonprofit group to come in here, nonpartisan group to come into this space or some space in the city and do a presentation on all of the all of the amendments? >> I'm good.
>> Yep, that's fine with me. Okay. >> All right. Hooray. So, I guess we'll work with League of Women Voters and figure out a time that works. This space is often open and empty and we have big screens. So, that might be this might be an idea. >> That was going to be our recommendation that if if council wanted to do it that they would do it here in the council
chambers, especially with the AV and the fact that we can stream and all the different things. And also, that would also keep us in line with uh section 2-291 of the code of ordinances where we can't wave the rental fee for the the cultural center. So,
>> is that something we want to tag on to the one we're already doing >> or is you want to keep it separate? >> Separate. >> Separate. >> Separate. I think separate's good. >> Then then the city has nothing to do with it so nobody will think we're trying to sway anybody one way or the other and it's completely handsoff. >> So, all right. I'm glad everybody's on
board. That's all I got. >> Okay. Uh, Council Member, >> uh, appreciated the thoughts on the the flot cameras. Um, you guys know my position on it. Um and uh I think it'd be uh great I think it'd be great to have a look at the policies and uh maybe
leading to uh having a little more discussion about it as >> [clears throat] >> um you know we passed it 11 11 months ago and uh it's uh it's a little bit different now um with um uh the state of it and that's all I got. >> Okay. Council member Bterford.
>> Yes. Uh so I [clears throat] I know that most of them left, but uh want to thank again both the the artists and the art board. I think the art board's done a a great job of bringing in some some great pieces of work uh into the chambers. Um Deborah, if you can pass it along, you
know that and to uh Teresa as well. Um the artboard's doing a great job this year. So appreciate everything there. We are having um uh I say we it's the police foundation has teamed up with beef for Brady's. We have a police officer named Chris St. John if you
remember that person. He was the one that saved the gentleman's life outside of a church when he was having a cardiac issue. Um he had been diagnosed with a a form of cancer. Uh there is at Beef for Brady's tomorrow starting at 5:00 uh 10%
of all the proceeds will go to uh Chris St. John's family uh to help him out. He's only been on our department for about a year, but he was at Orlando for 20 23 years. Um I've met Chris before.
Great job. Uh great guy. So, uh I believe beast will be very busy tomorrow. Most of the officers that I've talked to, so they're going to be there. Uh we're anticipating that we'll have some from Orlando as well. And so, if anybody has the ability to go buy beef tomorrow, it's actually all day that the
10% will work. Uh, but I think most of the people are going to be there from five o'clock on. Um, and that's all I got. >> Okay. Uh, future meeting dates got Monday, August 17th at 6:30 p.m. we have a regular session. August 24th at 5:30
p.m. we have a work session. And Thursday, not Monday, September 10th, we have a regular session/budget hearing. Is there anything else for the good of the order? It is 7:25 p.m. and this meeting is adjourned.