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He wants to be the traffic light that I wore last year. >> B of the >> That is so y'all. I love it. >> Disone. >> We were public works. >> Oh, I do.
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>> uh I set the traps last night but didn't catch it >> here was us last night. >> Oh my god. >> I love that he's like so >> so one cage was >> I and I was kicking myself and I didn't
think about it at all. >> You just had the Well, >> you just had to go to you know and picked up. Okay.
>> I mean, both of those for him, right? [Laughter] >> Okay. meeting. It's Monday, October 20 at 6 PM. Uh, let the record reflect everyone's here, but member Slatterie is
out. Uh, we first thing we have is approval of minutes. Is there a motion? >> I'll make a motion to approve the minutes from August 18th, 2025. >> A second. >> There's a motion and a second. Any discussion? Hearing none, I'll call the vote. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> None opposed. Motion passes. Uh, is
there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak to us that isn't on a item later? >> Hearing none, we'll move on. We've got a consent agenda. What's the pleasure of the board? >> Make a motion to approve the consent agenda as is. >> Second. >> There's a motion and a second. Any
discussion? Hearing none, I'll call the vote. All those in favor say I. >> I. Motion passes. We're up to resolution number 16725. I presume Teresa, you're our presenter. >> You are correct, Mr. Chair.
>> I I was going to you were going to say no, it's Teresa, so I figured I'd skip that. >> That is fine. >> Good evening. Um Mr. Chair, um CRA um board members. We have um Keith Coons here. He's the vice uh chair of the
public art board. He's going to be the one presenting and I'll be here. ready to answer any questions that you may have. >> Thank you. Good evening. It's good to see all of you. I am pleased to represent the public arts board
in presenting resolution number 167-25. This is a request for the city of Ovido Community Redevelopment Agency Governing Board to approve the funding for a call to artist for a mural design representing the 100th anniversary of
the city and beyond, past, present, and future at Center Lake Park. And I would respectfully request that the governing board adopt the resolution. Are there any questions for the
presenter? >> Well, that makes it nice and simple. Uh, is there a motion? >> I move we adopt resolution 167-25. >> Second >> the motion. There's a motion and a second. Any discussion? Hearing none, I'll call the vote. All those in favor
of resolution number 16725, please vote I. I. >> I. >> None opposed. Motion passes. Um, Mr. Cob, we have no discussion items. >> We got one more. >> We have Oh, sorry. We have one more, >> Mr. Chairman.
>> Oops. Statute. >> And I guess Mr. Coops will be also uh presenting. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Yes. This also is under our purview. Resolution number 168-25. >> Forgive me. >> Funding for a call to artist for a
sculpture representing the fauna andor flora of Ovido on Ovido Boulevard. This is a request for the city of Ovido CRA governing board to approve the funding for a call to artist for a sculpture representing the fauna andor flora of
Ovido to be located on the east side of Ovido Boulevard at the intersection with Center Lake Lane. We respectfully request the CRA board adopt resolution number 168-25.
Any questions this time? >> Okay, I'll entertain a motion. >> For purposes of discussion, I move we approve resolution 168-25. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. Uh that was for discussion. So, we'll start with you.
>> Uh on this one, I am a little disincined to u go with it. And the reason why u has a lot to do with what Mr. Ford shared in an email that may have gone to the board as well. Um, there's a little bit of irony in putting this in a place
that's surrounded by non-natives as sort of like aerary memorial of what used to be here and what could be here but is not. So, I I think it would make more sense for the CRA to to shift this funding to a living actual sort of
museum of plants of native Fidian plants at a nearby location that is more traveled. Um, anyone want to follow that up, Mr. Britain? >> Uh, I I did read the letter and I tend to agree. I'm not sure what the
alternative is, but I think we need to look at something maybe a little bit different with the more native plants. >> Mr. Bcker, >> no, I don't have a problem with it, >> Mr. H.
I don't know if I have any more to add, but I mean, he did make a point. Now, did you get the letter? >> Uh, I don't I don't know that I did. >> I think it went to council because I think uh probably looked at the the council agenda because it's on the council agenda, too. Um,
yeah, I mean, kind of making the point that we um we're going to make a sculpture of native plants instead of putting native plants there. Um, makes he makes he makes an interesting point.
>> Maybe that's all I have to add. Sorry, >> member Tuger. >> I mean, I I agree. I think if we're going to be doing native plants, I do think there's a way to still do this um with native plants. So, maybe it's a revisit it and see how we can put this in the right place or surround it by
native plants and make it work. But, uh he did bring up a really good point and I don't know if Theresa or Mr. Coun wanted to speak to that. Yes, I would like to speak to that. Uh, please note that this call to artists is for fauna
andor flora. So, this could be a sculpture of a deer. And if you'll look at the uh the photo of the space, um it's a very narrow sliver of land actually. Um, I'm not sure that you can
have a worthwhile plot of land to have native plants. The I I I did read the letter and it looks like the landscaping that he's objecting to is actually located behind the brick,
which is part of the city landscaping and not part of the actual space. >> Mr. Chairman, >> if if if the objection is to the landscaping, the landscaping can be replaced. I mean, that is one of the things that part of the project we could come in with a landscape plan to bring
in native plants to to supplement what the sculpture is doing. I mean, the the CRA is being asked to do a call to artists for a sculpture. The sculpture could include a layout of of of native plants around it. I mean, just because those plants are there right now doesn't
mean that they have to remain. They can be replaced as part of the project. >> So will this come back as a competition for us to choose later? How how how does this work? >> It can. Yes. >> So can we
support this perhaps and and when it comes back uh deal with these issues of appropriate plants and surrounding improvements? >> I would want to keep the budget the same and have any rellandscaping. I it seems kind of a shame to rip out landscaping
that may not be otherwise objectionable when I think the ask is to put the native landscaping in a place where it could actively do environmental good. So that is sort of a perhaps a different bucket of money than we're talking about
here. like here it's sort of I I don't want to call it funny money but it's art money and he is proposing that we think of functional landscaping that has an educational component as something that we could use the art money for and I I
don't I don't object to that and if we don't have another funding source to do it I think there is some wisdom and e either taking a portion of this and using it for that style landscaping or diverting it completely to to doing
functional useful landscaping with an educational component that could have an artistic twist on it to help people learn about the plants that are in the area. >> So, is there any more discussion? Mr. Rot, >> I I just had a question and if this is in the uh if this is in the report,
forgive me because I I don't read it and I don't see or I I did read it. I don't remember it. I don't see it right now. Um, are we talking about just in front of that wall or >> Yes. >> or also behind where there's the other plants? >> No, only in front of >> only in front of the wall.
>> Okay, that's what I had assumed, but >> yeah, it's a semic-ircular space. >> Yeah, that's correct. That's the So, this the the knee wall that is over there, it's limiting the space where the sculpture could be. >> And that wall would stay there.
>> The the wall would stay there. Yeah, I guess my question would be I mean this is I think a great spot for sculpture. So we're talking about what we put as the topic of the sculpture versus on if we want a sculpture there. Uh I think the art board saying we
should put a sculpture there is a great idea. Um as far as if it's topic is about native plants and it's not surrounded by I think that's where we're a little off. But maybe we >> and I agree. I think there are two different issues here right? One is the
public art, the sculpture. The sculpture can be the theme proposed can be a different theme. This the the theme of fawn and flora can also be used as an educational component right to you know the residence to show what is native in
the city and we could add that uh um request in the call to artist. Now the landscape surrounding there as Mr. Cobb said this is the city can change if that's not appropriate and I so I don't think that one issue is excluding the
other right we're talking about two different issues that can go along with each other >> if I might ask I I guess I didn't get this letter and I'm looking at this request says flora and fauna it doesn't say native it doesn't say what it is so
until we see some things come back we don't know what we're dealing with so the question I think in front of us is do we want on the CRA to support a call to artists for sculpture and and we can deal with what more we might want to do when we see what what wins. So when
would this come back in your view? >> So if this is approved tonight and and the city council confirms um the advertisement we are going to advertise for 60 days. So we are in October. So, this is going to be in the end of the year, beginning of the year. We'll we'll
bring it back. >> So, what's on the council agenda later for this? >> It's just it's the same same request with the with the exception that the budget amendment is not part of it. It'll just be the >> So, it's an interlocal agreement type thing or >> No, it's the public artboard
recommendation to the council. Okay. >> It's basically what it is. >> Well, we have a motion and a second and we've discussed it. Is there anything more anyone wants to add? I I guess I I don't know if I want to draw the motion or propose a change and hope that the
seconder will agree. Um I I think we should shift from the stipen being 25,000 to something less than that so we can address some of the landscaping issues, >> but we don't know that we have any.
>> I guess I guess that is accurate. >> Depends what comes back. I I guess so. Okay. So, so >> that just seems like a really high I I've never gone to try to buy a sculpture for that size space before, so I don't know what the going rate is. That just seems pretty high.
>> So, go ahead. >> Well, I say that that includes the design and execution, it says, right? So, >> well, 35,000 total budget. So, >> well, but those are Yeah. I mean, so with additional lighting and installation and plaque, but I the way I
read it is that that includes all the materials, right? Aside from >> the three that are called out. >> You're correct. Yeah. 25 is the stipen for the for the artist with the execution of the sculpture. And then we
have installation up to 5,000, lighting up to 3,000, and the plaque up to 2,000. >> Yeah. So, um, that $25,000 number, where where did that come from or what
comparable things might have gone in for that similar amount of money? >> So, we I have I'm part now of the Florida Public Art Association and I went to a a conference in Tampa because it's very it's very
subjective. It depends on the scale of the project. And we have researched and and and this is why it took so long for us to finalize the proposal because we were kind of trying to find where it
would be comfortable for us to propose. And you have cities that have murals that are in hundreds of thousands of dollars, right? And some others that are the first mural that we had here was $3,000.
So it is whatever we can you know propose. So we thought 35,000 learning a little bit from the wings of joy on the installation on the lighting. Um we thought that 25 for the artist and and the additional monies up to 35,000
was a comfortable space for us but it's up to the board to you know either support that or recommend something different. So, so I suggest we vote on this as a call to artists for sculpture. If it comes back and the board feels we want
to enhance the landscaping, we probably have the budget capability later to consider that. We don't know what the the art is at this point. So, let's not uh diminish the the sculpture is just kind of my last thought. Is there anyone else want
to add anything? I guess uh we have a motion in a second. And I'll call the vote. All those in favor of supporting resolution number 16825 say I. >> I. >> I.
>> Any opposed? Okay. Motion passes and we may visit revisit this later. >> Thank you. >> Now I'll say Mr. Cub. We have no discussion items, right? >> We have no discussion items. >> Okay. Uh our next meeting it looks like is Monday, November 17th at 6 PM. I'll
see you all at that time. We are adjourned. >> 61. >> This was my