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of the left Hello. Okay, it Yeah, you never know what's going to happen if you drill down. >> I think we do know there's going to be somebody. >> Oh, >> exactly.
>> I made a name. It's not even my real name. My grandfather made it up in order to get permission I guess to marry my grandmother. She was Italian. He lied and said he was Italian and so he made up my last name and said he was Spanish.
>> I love you so much I'm going to change my last name. >> He he did love her a lot. They were two Ps and pod. But >> makes more sense because everyone talks to me in Spanish speaks me in Spanish and I'm like I used to be like no. I'm like yes you are.
>> Okay. We will bring the meeting into order. Our chair is absent. So I will proceed with our business. >> I'm going to do a roll call. >> Okay. So person tonight we have Lisa McCoy
while dress white Xavier mod is out crane is out. Amber Waters is here and is here and out is Deborah. There she is. Deborah
is president. That's So, thank you. Um, good evening everyone. Our first item is the approval of minutes from our last meeting, September 17th.
I have one addition to our minutes. In the item of election of vice chair, it says that I was unanimously nominated for the vice chair and also it should say that I was actually voted for vice chair.
>> It does not say that but should. So I will make that amendment. >> Are there any other amendments or additions corrections to the minutes? Hearing none, I'll ask for a motion to approve as amended.
>> I move to approve the minutes. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. All in favor of approving the minutes as amended, please say I. >> Post say no. The minutes are approved.
Um, next we have public comments. I don't think there's anyone here for public comments. We can go on now to the staff report. Can you talk about the memo for call to artist?
>> Thank you, Mr. Vice Chair. I believe tonight um there will be a couple of memos that's going to both the CRA as well as which is the community redevelopment agency as well as the city council. Uh so what's going to the
community redevelopment agency is a request to approve the funding for the call to artists for the mural design as well as for the sculpture. Um the same night which is October 20th
there will be the same two items which will be the call to artist for the mural design as well as the sculpture. City Council at that point will be approving um the advertisement for both. Um CRA will be approving the funding for both.
It's on the agenda tonight and we sent you all out an email showing what's going before the CRA as well as I believe the city council. So, what we're requesting tonight is to have a representative from the public arts board to speak on behalf of the public
arts board for the request for both the CRA as well as for city council. It would be great to have as many people as possible there, but we're looking for a representative to speak on behalf of public arts board to um request the
funding as well as request that city council approve the advertisement. staff will be in attendance there. Um Dr. Priya will be there um for support as well. So um tonight we're just looking for nomination
for someone to speak on behalf of the public arts board for both meetings. One believe I believe starts at 5:30, the other is at 6:30. >> I have a question. I thought one of the memos I thought that the CRA had already approved
in one of the memos that went out it said that that that had been approved already by the CRA. >> No, it has not been approved by the CRA. No. So, we're requesting the funding >> um for the call to artist for both for the CRA
>> and then the it has advertised. It hasn't been advertised yet either, right? >> Um so, we're asking city council to approve the advertising. Okay, there's so the advertisement just get the announcement out there >> and the CR is the money
>> and that's at 5:30 >> at 5:30. >> I can go. >> I am going to go. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Unfortunately, I can't be there. Um I already have a conflict, but it's not
that hard because I do. >> So, it wasn't successful. Well, they were very they were supportive and I actually wasn't thinking it was going to turn out that way. I was kind of shocked um to tell you the truth. So, um so it wasn't I
think this they they would be supportive of this. >> So, >> you want to speak? >> I can do it. >> I'll be there though. >> Okay. I'll be at the city council meeting as an for the leaderboard of voters, but I'll be there, but I can't speak. I
don't think I can't do both. >> So, we just need one person to speak, but we want everyone to be there as many people as possible. >> I'll be at the city. >> Would you want us to nominate the speaker? I nominate Keith to speak.
>> I I second that. Um, do we need to vote on that? >> Yeah. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second for me to represent to make this request. Um, any discussion?
None. Let's proceed to vote. All in favor say I. >> I. >> Post say no. Okay. I make our case. And it's it's a double request, right? So the request for the
funding from the CRA >> and the request for to do the advertisement from the city council. >> Yeah. >> And we can walk you through that process as well and what you should say. Um so we can do that prior to the meeting if you want to come in a little earlier. Um
we can certainly walk you through. >> Okay. Yeah, you can give me a cheat sheet. >> Absolutely. All right. Thank you. Um, well, it's certainly good to see this
try to get moved forward because, you know, it's been on it's been on our plate for months and months. You know, we've talked about it a lot and, you know, we we believe in it and it'd be great to see it happen.
Okay. And >> the next item that we have is the introduce a new artist, Richard Perez. And I believe you all have seen his email that he sent to us. He sent an email to us. Um, we told him we would forward his email to you all. So, you
all can see. >> Okay. >> And this is his bio. >> I had difficulty pulling that up. I don't know if anybody else did. Last time I figured it out, but it took a while. >> Oh, really? Okay. Was that >> Yeah,
that was impressive. [Music] [Music] >> That one I like He's interested in in exhibiting his art and for the arts and chambers. Um so
some of the pictures um I think the board can decide if we want to allow it and then what pictures what paintings we want to be exhibited because some of them may not be appropriate. The Jesus comes up. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Does he reside in I again I couldn't pull a We'll look at his file. So, is this um graphic? Is this paintings or actual >> or
was it >> I couldn't figure that one out. What was he >> thicker or >> No, I I It's kind of different, right? Because Teresa had a different interpretation than I do with this one. >> She thought it was more violent and I
thought it was more maybe he's thick or hurt. >> Yeah. Uniform on breaking down. >> But it looks >> exactly I think it's up to us to interpret it. >> Yeah.
He likes cubism. Let all the Pass again. Save. [Music] These are I guess that's a mosaic. Yeah, >> doesn't say resp.
>> Yeah. So, he sent us an email and this is what was in the email. So, we decided we forward it on to you all. So perhaps um I don't think there are any policies right now but you may want to create some policies on how to accept um things
for the arts and chambers have some guidelines. >> There's no current guideline that restricts it to OTO based artists. I think um I know in the past what we have discussed is like obviously
considering a veto first because a veto and um and and outlining like seminal county greater ve you know schools like we talked about the artistic hand obviously because it's a local artistic
center um and then um we also um talked about um UCF students because of Vito's connection to UCF Right. >> Um, and that's kind of as far as we have um discussed it in the past. So, right
Keith, I'm trying to >> I think that's correct. >> Yeah. Did I cover? >> But no established policy. >> Correct. Casual. >> Well, he must have he must be somewhat local even though we do. >> How did he find out? Do you know? >> He saw he saw that that we had the arts
and chambers. Okay. >> And I'm not quite sure how he Okay. and said he wanted to display his art in our chamber. So, >> well, I think um we could probably respond and say that there is a process. Um but we got it working.
>> We got it. >> So, I might be able to offer some assistance. City of Sanford and City of Castleberry have had art and chamber programs for quite a while. They do have policies and procedures. I could procure those if that would be helpful to the board. Great.
>> Would we like to put that on the agenda for the next meeting to start to discuss that? >> All right. So, let's let's take a look at the those other procedures and then asked to put that on the agenda
for next meeting to at least start to uh discuss the issue. Excuse me. Dr. Bower, do you think that you could have um their policies and procedures that we could get them prior to next meeting so we could definitely
>> so we can read it so when we come in here we can have >> fruitful discussion and maybe even hammer out a policy of our own in one day. >> Yes, it should be >> right. >> Yeah. Maybe we don't have to reinvent the wheel.
>> And there may be others. Those are just the two I'm definitively aware of. >> Yeah. Um I know um Orange County has the same thing, the same program >> as well as the city of Armada, but they also have a gallery. like
>> Yeah. >> So, someone is going I'm sorry. Do I need to change? I don't know how that works, but is someone gonna contact Richard? >> Oh. Oh, >> yeah. And tell them >> we're working
on it. that we're working on. >> Should we let it know we're working on a problem? >> No, I don't know. Just >> you um if you did not have to put it on because
information you're not accepting or or letting him know that you want take steps forward with procuring his work. Um, you can either send him a quick email letting him know that you're working on policy. We'll get back to him or you could wait until you actually have the policy and you have more
information which let him know that we're the board. >> Correct. >> Just Yes. So it's not just hanging. >> At least he knows that you >> am blocking your view. >> I'm fine. Okay.
>> And that would be I like when the Google can't see. >> Okay. So, should I go on to the next? >> Go ahead. >> Okay. So, the next one is an update on the public school and public school art chambers. Dr. Bria reached out to both
Alito High School and Herty High School and they are both interested. Hackard High School asked if they put sculptures in the chambers. So, um Dr. to talk to the city manager as well as the city clerk and they both said no
>> only because of the liability if something breaks are involved people walking around in the chambers so they want everything on the wall >> so they're both interested um the earliest that they can um put anything
in the chambers would be March 202 Right after spring. >> Yes. >> Right after spring, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Well, that was that fits our timeline, right? >> We were expecting that.
>> Yeah. >> So, I'm not quite sure how you all are going to do the arts and chambers for the art school. Did you all have ideas on what type of things you wanted or just anything?
>> Well, we were going to let the teachers figure out. >> Okay. >> If it's suitable for the high school, I think it'll be suitable for us. Do we want to choose them or do we want the teachers >> to meet with the schools first and just talk about
you know >> we still have to approve them that they're appropriate for >> that they made a policy that we haven't made yet >> thinking well couldn't we tell the teachers that that this is what we're looking for
we can approve it if you want I mean that's just another step but Yeah, >> another layer of we only meet once a month and all the paintings. >> Yeah, I do feel bad because the students not all of them are painting students and some are ceramic or sculpture and I
feel really bad about that because that's kind of I don't know like a a certain percentage of those students can't participate in this and they still might want to. And I'm I'm trying to think could it could they be displayed at um you know on the
park what I mean inside but I know that's a rental facility. Well could you put up like um ropes around it you know and that way people can't get to >> No we don't have it's such a small city hall >> so it's paintings. >> Yeah real world
>> they have to look for other venues. >> I know but I'm just thinking of a plan. That's all I was trying to think of a plan like but there's really nowhere. >> Yeah. >> I think that the in terms of somebody
going to the schools and talking to them is that they have six classes or you know there's lots of art classes. >> We would invite them here. >> Oh representatives here. >> Oh >> that would be a good a great idea. >> Yeah. >> I'm just imagining us going talking to
the schools six classes. No. >> Oh, that's okay. Thank you. >> I'll be fighting for that. >> Perfect. >> Yeah. >> So, so in my opinion, I think we ought to leave the decision process to the teachers, >> but there should be some formal approval step
>> that we get to pass judgment on it just >> once we have our policy. >> Yes. >> Which we're going to do next. >> That should be that should be part of the policy. and and Deborah, maybe that's already maybe that already is in >> well the school is a little bit of a different beast and we we're actually
dealing with this in in Sanford and Calbury right now. Um it gets a little dicey because some of the children are minors, especially if they're under 18. The seniors not so
much. Um, you just my advice would be talk to the teachers. I I would invite the teachers here, see what they have to say. They know what their students needs are and what the students are capable of. And then maybe consider what the needs of the city are
from the perspective of what you're willing to do and how you're willing to do it. And then you kind of meet in the middle and you see what works and what doesn't. But I will tell you just from the county perspective, there are three different student shows that are going
to be coming up in the next six months and one of them is being specifically designed for mixed media and 3D student art from Hagerty and from Oto. >> Oh, good. >> So, there are other opportunities that they're going to be having to show. >> That's good. >> We also want to photograph it. I know
it's not the same as having the actual sculpture there. >> That's creative. If they have good cameras at the school, we can get nice print made and goes along with that. >> There you go. >> Done. >> That's okay. >> But but bringing the teachers and
students, >> giving them an invitation to come and and providing a spotlight um on on their work by by this board that I would think that would be a plus.
>> We would just be talking to to the teachers, right? not the students. >> What's your what what are your thoughts on that? >> I think it should be just the teachers. I think it would be overwhelming if it was the student. >> Yeah, I agree. I think it's just going
to be the teachers so you all can get an understanding of what they're looking for and what you all >> maybe at the unveiling of of the pieces. That's when the students could be celebrated. >> Yeah.
So we did that with the photo club. Remember the members were here >> photo club and they attended the whole group. So yeah. >> Okay. So we will invite the representatives from both Hag and O to
come. Um, and we'll do that probably um, December, maybe January after we created a policy. >> Probably January. >> January >> because they're not back in their school
until >> Yeah. It's that's such a difficult time. >> Yeah. And that still gives them some time to take the results of our discussion and their work with the students. It
>> might be helpful at least just to reach out to the teachers though and even though we don't have that policy in place just like let the students know in general start thinking about if you were to display a piece in a you know public
space in Oido what might that look like not to immediately lock and start working on it just to they can start percolating over winter All right. So, that sounds good. >> Okay. >> We will invite them to come in January,
but when we reach out to them, we'll tell them to start talking to their students about what it might look like, their art look like. Okay. So, the next one is the final call, which is the art chamber. um Wanda
Granville, her um beautiful park will be leaving us soon. Um this October 23rd is going to be the last day for her exhibition. Um and we still have a chance to purchase some of her artwork and we'll
be there until October 23rd. So please send out the notice. You know, whoever you talk to, just let them know for sale. I have a question. Was the press release done when the show started?
>> Yeah. Can you send me a copy of that? Because I got to do an email blast. >> Thank you. From here on out, could we utilize that county blast in like all future or maybe that's part of the
policy I don't know. Um, >> uh, that's something that SCAC does. If we get Senate, we send it out. >> We just haven't done. That's okay. >> I I found some things when the city puts it on social media. So, we have sent
some of the Oto stuff out, but it's kind of hit or miss when I see things. Okay. >> So, yeah, whatever you guys for to me, I'm happy. >> Thank you. >> Okay. So now we have a new exhibition that's going to take place um on
November 3rd and we would like to have the entire board be present for the unveiling. It's going to be a ceremonial item. So the unveiling will take place in city council chambers at 6:30.
Yes. So we wanted to have everyone at that meeting and that is again on November 3rd >> at 6:30. >> Is that a Wednesday? >> It's norally Monday. November. Oh, it's
a city. Yeah. >> So it's a council meeting. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And her hard work. And I understand that you all saw it last meeting. Sorry, where' you say it was going to be at?
>> Chamber. >> Okay. >> And we like to have the um artist as well as the public art board there um with council um for the artist standing with staff
>> like we've done before. >> Yeah. Right. Yes, ma'am. And the last item that I have is the Joey announcement of the unveiling to be made by Paul Beldon. So, we have everything
that we need for the project. We're waiting for parks and recreation to create a base for the actual um the flat. Yes, for the flat. And the base is $450.
Um, parks and recreation is funding that as well. So, we're just waiting for Paul Beldon to come up with the base and um to install it. Um, the public art board will be invited to that unveiling as well. Um, so we
will know the date as soon as we get it from Paul Felton. So, and he's a park and recreation director. So as soon as we get the date and the time we will forward that and that is all that I have. Oh the Joey.
>> Yep. That's the Joey. Okay. >> May I ask what the latest is with the beverage cup? Yes, >> that is going to city council on the 20th as well. Um, so that is
um a request for city council to approve the final design. And so the ranking was Kathleen. >> Yeah, she came in first and then Brian Deer and then Lisa Sanville came in board. So, city council
is being requested to approve the ranking. City council can change the ranking. Um, but it is going to city council on the 20th as well. >> Will they have slides of it? >> They have all of the different logos. Okay. >> So, they see the entire thing. I don't
know if it's going to be pulled up on the screen, but they do have the logos. >> Um, I doubt they will go over all of them. >> No, the four. They'll show the four. They will show the four plus. They also have um the rest. >> I don't show all of them. There were 66.
>> I doubt that they will show any of them on the screen because they have it on their computers so they can take a look at it. >> So, I don't know. >> Excuse me. >> I'm sorry. If they're going to announce the winner, wouldn't they show it?
>> Not necessarily. They're not going to They'll just approve. There'll be a resolution to approve the ranking. And so if they approve the ranking then whoever's first be awarded second will they be in the audience or
>> hopefully they know. >> Yeah. >> They know. So I don't know if it's going to be under resolutions where there's not really a lot of discussion, a lot of public discussion or it's under consent.
Consent there's no discussion. I just approve the ranking. um after they approve the all the items under consent at one time and there's no discussion unless one of the council members pull it off. I'm not quite sure where it is on the agenda. Okay.
>> So, we may have a uh resolution of that. Hope they have a final decision. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> May I ask a question? Um are all the um businesses that utilize the cup um
responsible for the um screen printing? >> Okay. >> So, so the one that was selected is not an expense. I mean the ones not expensive for a business to print. >> Can you repeat your question?
>> Screen printing the cup. >> I mean there's a cost involved. I mean it but they're responsible the restaurants everybody's responsible for their own cups printing it's not covered by the city it's or the >> not even the purchase of the cup >> or the association the businesses of
oido on the park >> um it's their responsibility they just order okay >> and as I recall they can choose to whether to do the full color version or the >> that's what I was wondering because I wasn't here when this I was just >> so if a vendor wanted to create
t-shirts. They could do that without our approval and sell the t-shirts. >> I don't know about the t-shirts. >> I don't know. And they will probably the city will probably create um probably have to amend the code to place the logo
in the code of ordinance with >> because the city is basically purchasing the logo, right? city will will own the logo and they're just letting the restaurants print it. >> Yeah. >> On the cups. >> Just for cuffs. >> Yeah. >> Is the intention. >> So, I don't think anybody could run out
and do t-shirts on their own. >> I mean, I was just wondering how that's happen. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's >> Yeah, >> it's property of the city of Oido. >> They could apply to be able to use it,
>> right? >> It's up to the city. I think is to decide where else to take it. >> It is and um our assistant city manager Patrick has been working on that. So they will probably have to go with him to get approval. >> Um I'm quite sure he will create a
process for that. >> So did they register it as a trademark too? >> I'm not quite sure if they did or not. >> That needs to happen. >> Probably should be. >> I mean that's like that has to be like number one. then legally you're covering
that and yeah we will so they I would I would think they would know that but does that right >> I will say that the rights for the logo are baked into the contract that's being signed between the city and the artist so that that is a purchase of the
exclusive right to use the logo. So, to answer your question, no, a vendor wouldn't be able to just go out and print it on whatever they wanted and sell it because the city would retain exclusive rights um to to use that logo. The city could of course decide if they wanted to license it out to allow
businesses to sell it, but that would be a separate contract. >> Is the intention that all alcoholic beverages on the park will be in those cups? Okay. So, you can't walk around with a beer. >> You cannot. So, Okay, I get it. Okay,
>> that is all that I have. >> Interesting. >> Well, I have a question about um the call artists. If I know an artist who may be interested in the mail, I'm assuming I need to wait till after the October 20th or or whenever they approve it, which I don't know if they'll
approve it on the 20th. The call artists, >> I mean, we'll get an answer yes or no on the 20th. >> Okay. So, I need to wait till they're approved before I go tell my artist friend there's a call, >> right?
>> Okay. Yeah. How >> How about this? How about if we ask the staff to notify us as board members when the call goes out? >> Yes, absolutely. That's great. We can do that. >> Yeah. That way you'll know that it's
official, that the window is open. >> Okay. And then we can spread it to the people that we know as well. And it's all above board. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> You know that something is coming. Um you believe something. There's no harm in
>> he was that it's going to happen. You if you're going to be there on the night of council, you would hear from council if they approve or not. So once they approve it, I'm >> transport. Yeah.
>> So, I have another question. Um, so um the I know um the um FAPA um the Florida Association of Public Arts Association um um utilizing them. They also can post
RF I mean RFPs um on their site because a lot of artists are a member of that association and one specifically who um do murals all over the state of Florida as well. I mean I know Dr. familiar with it. But um but yeah, these
are experienced um artists. >> So, and some of them have been at um what's called I was just going to say done in Miami. Um >> no, the um all the murals all over
Windwood. >> Windwood. So, um you know, some of them some of those are international, but Are there any other discussion items? >> Question in regards to like if one of us
has an art event forthcoming like what is the proper way to like go about sharing that information to like just be like hey this is coming up featuring like an OTO artist or like is it just emailing you Dalia or >> you can email Dalia and let her know and
we can share it with everybody. >> Okay. And I think Dr. Bower, that's her territory. >> Yeah. anyone we we have and I know it's been a little bit um since I shared this but um since we have some new people we
maintain the seminal county artist registry that is very much as you all in the past have discussed like seminal county residents or people who have a tie to seminal county in some way so they don't just necessarily have to live
here um any any of that broadly broadly defined if they're they have work, they have events. If you send it to me, we will send it out in our newsletter, social media, email us. That's one of the things. >> So, it's cultural arts.
That's the register. >> Yes. for seminal because remember seminal county itself does not have a cultural affairs department. We are the closest thing to help the county with those. [Music]
>> Anything else for discussion? Let's look over the future meeting dates. Continuing next month, November 19th, 3rd Wednesday, 5:30 p.m.
And December 17th, the 3rd Wednesday is the 17th at 5:30 p.m. Any other business for us this evening? >> Do I hear a motion to adjourn?
>> Second. >> I move to adjourn the meeting. >> Second. >> Yes. >> Uh all in favor say I. I. We are adjourned. >> If they have something [Music]
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