Good afternoon everybody. Welcome to the city of Pala city commission special meeting May 28th 2025 to order by the pledge of allegiance
commissioner. Please rise. Please join me in prayer. Dear heavenly father God, we thank you for this day. We thank you for your grace. We thank you for your mercy that you bestowed upon us. God, as we gather here today, God, we ask that you give us the wisdom, knowledge, and understanding to make sound decisions to move this community
forward. God, we thank you. We appreciate you. We pray this prayer in your name. Amen. Amen. Please join us in pledge of the United States of America and to stands one nation under God
indivisible with liberty and justice for all please. Madam cler Mayor Cara present. Commissioner Davis present. Commissioner Campbell present. Commissioner Jones here. Commissioner Bor present. Before we move on to public comments, we
are going to pull item 3B discussion direction and port operations. Do we need a vote on that? Uh yes, we wanted to pull that. Um, no, that's the city manager's discretion to pull that.
Yes, I would like that to be pulled and if possible tabled. Okay. Okay. Just that portion. Correct. Thank you. On to public comments. I'm going to open the floor to come public comment. Um, this is a general public comment. It's
not related to anything agenda specific. Four minutes, please. I mean I'm sorry none we publicly and we're going to move to discussing direct second I think we said we I heard
3B 3. Yes. by Mr. Okay. Um so what we're looking for is some direct which uh I of equipment that we want to go with. I we have supplied three uh photos and
for the presentation types and cost associated to each one. Like I said in the last meeting I had went through and I had asked several of the public works employees their opinions who have children and they leaned towards one. But would like to know which way you
guys feel we should go. This was the one that you and you seen in the last meeting. Yeah. Can we go see another one? This is not the first one. No, this is the last one you guys. So, hold
on. Which one do you want? Compan this one missing out from the last meeting. The one we'll show will be yes. Yeah, they just said it. There it is. So, this is Compan, right? That was one. This is This is the first one.
And pieces of equipment were proposed to replace. There's four pieces of equipment in total that were either damaged or rotting out that we had to pull from the playground at this time with the exception of the swing. The swing is still standing, but is in rough shape.
So, the zip line will not be touched. Just so everybody knows, it's in really good shape. We've been checking on that maintenance and it it's still in pretty good shape. So, go down. The next complete game time. Okay. Safer play. There should be
a video attached as well. Do you have a video? I have an estimate. Okay. All right. while it's going um make a statement with regards to
um I understand that there needs to be a replacement but [Music] um the wood or what could be instead of
just being Yeah, I expressed that to you some time ago. with the exception of the slide um that everybody goes on the zipline, all the rest of the wood stuff is going to be removed. Okay. Okay. Do we find that? I don't have a
video. Okay. How about just uh games? Um I don't have that either. I have comp and the estimate of the stay in play and then the river package phase two. Okay. Go to the riverfront package phase two. It shows the all pieces. So this is the
one that wasn't in the presentation last time. The river front which is the ones in our packet but now everybody can see it. Okay. So if you scroll down keep
going that's an overall view. Um the one up front is the future zipline and that big uh piece that's to the left of it is not part of what we're doing today. So, this is for future what we could possibly do in the park. As well as the blue is the rubber matting. Uh,
Commissioner Jones had uh expressed a concern about the mulch and whatnot that's going in there. This is just an option down the road, but if you scroll down, we'll get right to the parts. Keep going. One
more again, please. Yeah, we're stuck on that one piece for some reason. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. All right. So, there's the swing set. That'll be a new swing set. The one all the way to the left is the ADA
portion of the swing, which is what my concern was. Yeah. That we have some ADA components. Yes. Let's go to the next one. Those are the four pieces right there that we're looking to replace um currently. Um so, the piece far to the right is the like a jungle gym with a
slide. Um the tree in the middle is where the existing slide is in the park which is in terrible shape and it's very dangerous for kids to be climbing up there. So that's going to go away and we'll have the slide as part of that package. Then there'll be a little thing the kids can play on and spin a balance beam and the swing set. Next
one. That's a closeup of the jungle gym. Again, there's the other two smaller pieces. I'm thinking of that. Uh, I'm just thinking of a choking garden through pounding hard. That's right. That just
keeps on going. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Okay. address commissioners Campbell's concern. Um, the company must deal with this all the time and the liability. Correct. Do they have any information about that
specific to say about that? It it wasn't asked, but it was put up the number one thing we we had mentioned in the beginning is we need safety for the children. Safest possible equipment we could put in there. He had no qualms of putting this on. So with the three options, are you going to keep us as suspense or you going to
tell us we're going to focus on kids? No, we can have any littles anymore. We can go to the next one. I got one question. Oh, go ahead. In terms of age, appropriateness of maternity 5 to 12, sir. So 5 to 12.
So that's certainly going to have to be something put up to make sure that the public is we have signs in place already sir. Yes. Appropriate. Okay. Go to the next one. Time say I don't
have see I have the sales I have the estimate and then I have of course the confident we already established. Um, I don't know if you Okay. So, compound, what do you have for compound? What I showed you already
pulled up already. Just pull it back so we can see it again. That looks like pan. Yes, ma'am. Those are the four pieces. Wait, can you go back? Sorry. This one. Okay. Okay.
There you go. Yeah, there they are. The train seems to be the though for the jungle project. It seems to be a common theme. Yeah, I think it's hot right now. Is that what your concern was, Commissioner Camp? Fine. If you say as long as we're posting the age
appropriateness board. Okay. Right. So, you have safe for play. Um, I have the estimate. Okay, bring that up. Let me see what's I'm sorry, Joe. Really? I am. Well, safer play is a more expensive option.
It has a similar climbing thing that has the ropes on it, a slide on it, but it has a canopy over that particular area. And and then yes, let me ask you this. Just because we're talking about we're seeing pictures and all of that, is it possible that you can come sign in if
you have this information in your email? I can send it. Go back to the um May 22nd. Yeah, we had that all of that. Right. The one that's in our package today was the only one we're missing.
Um, mayor, I have a question. Sure. Go ahead. So Joe, for the four pieces that we're looking to replace, there are four existing pieces and we're updating those four pieces. Correct. We've removed almost all of them.
There's only one left. That's what you said. Okay. That'll be coming out as well. Okay. And while we're waiting, um, timelinewise, depending on your choices, how long does it take for those pieces? They can get them rather quickly within
four to six weeks. Um, the process of uh, permitting will slow them down a little bit. Okay. We're looking at a couple months because I know people are asking a lot. You know, there's nothing. Yeah. We have to go in and do some excavating, get the old concrete stuff out that everything was concreted in the
ground, but that's swift. So, we'll coordinate that with them. So, we keep the down times for the park limited to the smallest window possible. Okay. When we do it, so the files from the last meeting are the same files that I have this meeting except for with the
one that you had sent me. We thought we had the other calculator. It's the same thing that I've been showing. It's the same to clarify. If it's a couple of months, if everything runs perfectly
smoothly, we're talking end of July. Yes, ma'am. It's for missing the summer. It is, but it's also extremely hot for some people. So maybe that time replacement is probably the best time of the year to
have, you know, have their place just Huh? If this worked. Oh, we got music. Yep. That's the video. That's the video. I'm trying to move it over, but it won't let me go over. Okay, last question in
me. So, we're going to play some equipment. I want to hold up some pictures that you guys safety feature on this piece. I don't know if that's one of the main pieces we replaced. No, that's that one to the left is
something different. That's just Yes. Yes, sir. That one's the one we're trying to replace with right now from the one from the one uh you know contractors themselves. I believe that's time. Yes sir. Which one company's choice which personally when we talking
about liability of the project I think this is way like the liability kids falling through there. Absolutely. I I think that anything on a playground is going to be liability issues and they have to be closely watched. But when we play a state and we
address safety and something that looked more like this with our would be my choice with the slot. This looks cheap. Yeah, they provided that. That's a piece that they just provided it when they provided the other drawings for the four. They said,
"Hey, in the future, this is something you can do as well." So, why we talk about the future when we invest now? We're not. We're just going to talk about the four pieces. Yeah. Right. So, if we like this is sort of like other projects. Um we're told what we're going
to get versus we decide. I think that it's good feedback and bad feedback. It comes back to us. notic and decide on which the small piece. What is
it? What is it? The kids get on it and it's a rocky thing where they play on it. It's just replacing something that was there before. A simple play, step on something to do, right? So, we're talking about accommodating kids that so think I mean I have one family has three
kids taking and if we have this, right? Do you ever see when you go into the playgrounds those four seasons you get on it has a spring? That's the same concept. There's gonna be kids in line to get on that as well. It's it's
they're gonna have to learn to share. They got also about getting along and learning to share time on things. There's a whole social opportunity here that's just glad you mentioned that because I'm
the one that goes to these parks and I sit out there and when when a kid is out there playing sometimes they just lay out in his building one toy so other kids won't get a turn. It's not being mean. hit it.
They feel that they first first challenge. I'm just thinking in the totality of what happens. But when you have more than one kid, it's kind of it's kind of you spend some time out there. Just
consideration consideration. But I just think if we're gonna buy one single ride something like you like us to bring more um Well, I also think we need to order I mean pushy about this. I know it's an
expense. they'd like to see us order, you know, I mean, when when's when because if it's a six week, eight weeks going, we don't want so June 26. Yeah. So, that
seems more again to drag this out. You want me to show you that video? The important thing is whether or not you feel that we have presented enough information to you so that you can make a decision. I don't think that information is there. I think it's the
determining what we want there. Okay. Because I think if we are going to do it, I would prefer to go ahead and get it done as mayor stated, but get it done to where if we don't have to do additional phases that we don't phase it and we just go ahead and back it up and
it be what it is. That's that's what I don't want to do because again it um I would prefer to download when it's back up everything is there what's needed to be there again in the future. Okay. So I
think that's what I like to see from the board to do to determine what we go down and this is what we decided. We can do that. Yeah, we can. The original intent was just to replace the
broken pieces. Uh we budgeted for this last year is to do that. So but I understand the direction sir. We can do that. Uh and I' I'd like to just u be on the record of saying I can with commissioner one of the things we're
trying to do for this as we are revitalizing areas is to show the public that we are revitalizing and then we do things here we go again right and so I
get the budget constraint but we have Good. Question. So what is budget? Does the budget only allow to replace the four pieces? Yes. That the amount will cover four pieces that we budgeted. Yes. Okay. Um so with that said, there'll be
no the larger piece that Commissioner Jones is looking at was a central focal point. They were trying to sell. Hey, we can add this in as well. right now with these four pieces, every piece in the um playground right now as it stands will
be replaced except for the zipline. That's the only thing that will remain at this time. Um and we have some options to bring in front of you a newer zipline that'll match the rest of the equipment that's only 30 feet long, but it's a zipline just the same back and
forth. So we we can do that, sir. It's definitely ma'am. It also the budget allows Yeah. a central chip district. It is a central chip district. Okay. If we have to supplement the budget and we
have the resource I believe we have. Mr. Jones, do you have any idea the additional piece that Commissioner Jones was looking at? What was that cost? 135,000. So if we were to complete it, you know, make it complete, not phase
one, phase two, correct, but complete, then we're looking at a cost of 135 plus 103. Yes, ma'am. So we're looking at about 240,000. About 240. Yes, ma'am. Okay. And so currently we have budget at 110. Yes, ma'am. So we're under budgeted by
130. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Anybody have any thoughts on that? I I do have another question. Um Joe, you mentioned the M. Yes. And what we see like the only um yes, that stuff is very expensive. That is a rubberized flooring. They put a
decking underneath it and the flooring it runs about uh 250,000 for the flooring for that particular area. There is a quoted number in there that is a very expensive place. I didn't want about 15 years ago somewhere an accessible one and it was expensive then
it's crazy expensive. So is that the the crushed uh the crushed uh stone sub base? The subbase and then the rubberized coating on top of it. So it'll be thrush
stone underneath it and then the rubberized goes on top of it. So this say 40,000 or they you have to it's another part to it. There's several different parts to it. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Okay.
Yeah, it's very expensive, sir. You guys like to We have a video. We have Let's watch the video and then we can have any additional questions to try to come to some consensus on You have to do it on a screen.
Yeah. Hit F11. F11 should make it full screen. That's There it is. It's done. Good. I like that spinny thing. It's a great set. What do you think it would be? That's it. Y that's the safer plate uh set which is a very good set. That is
the more expensive of the three. Um 104. 104. Yes. So that's very good and you could build on that in the future, but that would replace everything but the zipline in the book. You want to see it again perhaps?
Do we need a repeat performance or we all set? Does anybody have any additional questions? Yes. So the recommendation, the staff recommendation is game time. Game time. Yes, that's the
blue one. And that is based on oh the people from I I asked several employees who have young children uh about six or seven of them and they unanimously for that actually one person went for the one we just watched but the remaining all I like the bright colors better the canopy on this one seems a
little sturdier than the canvas. And what was their rationale for choosing one for the other? No, but the common answer I got my kids would love that. Well, because any a father that has u kids are generally drawn to
um so that's one reason why children to go to also feature activities And I know that kids they are again gravitating to the
father and then it also address more children to be in the area and its down to do the you draw. Okay. So, what what would it take for us to
consider the additional piece um address it at a CR? I think we would have to make a motion. Well, the addition, you say the additional piece. Uh, which which additional piece of this? Yes.
Oh, okay. Well, yeah. Hey, I like it. Thank you. Um, yeah. Then we also, if we're going to use CRA funds, we'll have to bring it before the CRA boards back around again, so to speak. Um, but in the meantime, I think we need to make the decision now. And we can also look
at uh funds that are budgeted that we did not use this year as well. Okay. In addition and we can all can we also use some ARPA funds that it they can be used for park improvements as well. Correct. Yes. So we got different options. We do
we have at least three options. Yes. I would make the recommendation as we to that point that we take in consideration adding the addition give us staff direction to take consideration adding the additional piece also looking at all funding
opportunities that would compensate for the additional piece that sir is requested and that's a motion perfect we have a motion to second all in favor I any opposition thank you thank Yeah,
thank you. Just for clarification, um, does the motion of the mulch? No. My question asking because of whether or not it was going to sort of warranties
or safety considerations for kids. It's I think it also a liability kind of question, but it probably need to be considered if it's if it's if it's shown in the if it's shown in the uh picture here, it's not going to be absolutely
I think that was it added to the picture because it brought to you that is correct. Yeah. Yes. It's a there's a a mulch that we use that is splinterfree. It's designed to spring. It's made for children to fall on intentionally. So, we have a playground style mulch. That mulch that
we have in there now is a playground style mulch. We can get it in a couple different colors, but um that being the last decision that was made a couple years ago when we put that mulch in, but it is a playground mulch, I say, for children. Okay. Put in the Hank Brian
that also has the safety mulch. Same stuff, sir. Okay. I think we're I think we're okay. I just want to be clear, you know, that's a good point. Just want to be clear as to what's going to be down there because if we're bringing that report and we seen it as such then
something that's why it's good to get clarity before we move forward. Thank you. Thank you. Any further discussion? Um public hearings a establishing chapter seven of the
municipal code to create format. Yes. Um commissioner, I'm I'm going to defer to legal on this, but um I do want to point out that this is um this is occurring as a result of the charter
review process that we're in. And so you can go for sure. Thank you. Um so as as part of the charter review committee we did there. Um however is
making it sitting on other boards. And so we unfortunately put in Mr. absolutely amazing job. Thank you for that. Um but
unfortunately our charter does um so it does make the request that they shall step down um and the process of doing that we also did a deep analysis on all our various awards and be able to
discover that there is no formal basis for the existence of the airport advisory board. So I was instructed to go ahead and fix that and formalize the advisory board. In the process of doing so and I have done
that request um and determining where to code I learned that we also have no reference in our code either to be here to work. So there's no section to plug it in. Um so I have uh had to create uh
chapter seven of our code to accommodate the airport and that is where I tucked in pertaining to the airport advisory code. Um, there were seven members uh across a
diverse background. um in airport county representative from one of the 10 largest employers in the county hoping to capture as many of the existing board members that we already
have on the So that is the ordinance of chapter. Yeah. If I may add, uh this is an effort on city management's part to safeguard the airport, safeguard airport advisory,
you know, function as it has existed. So we spent a lot of time trying to be certain that we looked at and and in conjunction primarily with your port manager giving us input. Okay. Um yes I guess I'm going to read the
follow caption here first. Okay. Thank you. December 2025 an audience of the city of collapsical post of the city of cloud pertaining to the airport establishing
the jurisdiction and tele rules and regulations and the importility and effective b and service. Go ahead commissioner Jones. So in Europe in
Europe other airports of our size in the same capacity they have airport advisory board do they please ask the question once more doing your research other airports of our size and capacity
do they provide for and if so how do they function in advisory uh capacity or a a board that actually um governs. So, I'm going to allow the city attorney
to answer that more detail, but the overview research that I personally did, it reflected that the airport advisory boards functioned in a in an advisory capacity only. You can answer more detail. That
is correct. I did look at other municipalities to determine how they structured um their airport advisory boards if they have them. It's those that did have those advisory airport manager also informed us there's an
additional consideration and that's out of the airport. So I do not do an analysis of enterprise funded airports that are similarly situated with however the one that's close by operates
very similar. I think we looked at Keystone and some other airports nearby Lake City etc. So uh think I made mention about at our last meeting loose need to be tied up before we bring stuff up here make a decision
whether it's advisory board we should know to to tie up later on we come back well by the way it's thing. Sure. I I mean again I did do an analysis of similarly
situated municipal airports. It's just a little bit different. and and that's what I would like for you to do prior to us making a decision and bring it to us today. Please, I think
that's I think we'll do that um as for something. I know that we heard from I would want to hear the enterprise down look like
Mr. McNe could you please come up and provide some information. Thank you. You magnet airport manager for city of Alikica. So just clarification um in terms of enterprise fund nature in
business most airports are enterprise funds anyway okay that that's that's their function certainly federalally funded airports you grant funded uh you're held to some serious grant assurances um this process here you're looking at
the advisory board uh you know you as a question about makeup those kind of things. It's a advisory role. The makeup, you know, throughout Florida is probably 50/50. Um, some smaller
communities have them, some mediums size communities have them. When you get into larger communities, then you start looking at uh more of uh independent um governance. There are some communities uh that are set up and they
are they're by nature, just by pure nature. And again, Palaca would be one of those because essentially Palaca is an executive airport. That's what it is, you know, in the whole grand scheme of things. Um, you got 6,000 foot runway,
okay? Everybody wants that. Certainly our neighbors and those kind of things. So, our location make a difference. Um, I certainly respect and uh welcome a deeper dive. I I think um you know since
I've been here engaging in the season advisory board members um you know I think we're on the same page about the opportunity here. Um so you know um I welcome that myself. um you know
but the enterprise fund nature you know most airports federally funded um or enterprise funds and we have to be treated a little bit different. We we are held by a different standard that can get the city in trouble. I guess my
question does it make a difference in the makeup? So, so the makeup of the board or what consideration needs to be taken in place in the formulation of what we have presented here today. So, with the advisory board, you have a diverse group
of stakeholders. For example, the the school district here, major player in terms of aviation. They've partnered with the existing flight school. You know, that's a long-term goal. That's a long-term vision. your corporate
customer, you know, you got your larger employers flying in here every week or every other week in jets, you know, so, you know, those are your stakeholders, you know, so you want to try to make sure that those stakeholders, they're not just necessarily local. It's a
regional thing and you can satisfy that through the list that was laid out there. Um, but is unique. It's it's you you have a good problem. You know that it may sound like oxymoron but this is an executive airport and this is an
opportunity with with the folks you have in place now to really maximize this opportunity. Thank you. Yes sir. Any additional questions? Um I'm back to
Well, go ahead. Okay. Thank you. Okay. like maybe 1% I'm I'm still not clear maybe is necessary I'm not saying not to do that but I'm still not clear on that
will change things are we don't need to do that right and most of the research that we did we did a lot of research um and all of the airports um were basically the same with the function of the airport advisory
board in that it represent uh a diverse population wanting to make certain that you had someone there that was in the industry also reflective of the community business-wise and growthwise. So um the list of the seven types of
memberships that we have here is an attempt to try to mirror what we did find and um all of them are in fact enterprise fund. Uh that's what an airport is. An airport is always an
enterprise fund. So I'm sorry that we're uh getting a little flustered there, but all airports are enterprise funds. All the majority at least the majority say it that way. Thank you. And that's why I pose the question
because bringing a different perspective when it comes to this but that's to hear from Mr. to see how that controllment would make a difference with what we have presented
here today from what I'm hearing. Even if there is a deeper, it still does not necessarily state what's being presented to us with this ordinance. What chang something that has not been in compiance in
existence to go ahead and begin implementation. Um but again the makeup of the advisory um that's what I was mulling over in my head. I'm really trying to listen to hear what may make a difference. Uh
number one based on current practice we are correcting avoid. Yes. So when building and again it's
always requirements and Um, I'm not here to make different places. So, city appropriate.
And so the deep dive that we did take was in direct response to your request to have us to look at uh how board vacancies are being filled. And once we pursued that uh then I saw something
that the city attorney discovered and I and you know it just evolved and said let's look at everything and so that's when we found what was she discovered what was there. So, and then my reaction was so let's try to correct it. So, in
addition to what we have here, are there any boards that need to be taken into consideration? Yes, the TIFFAC uh board also does not have any sort of legal authorization that I was able to find. And just so
everyone understands when when city manager says deep dive, I looked at all our resolutions, all theies, the city charter, the There is no authorization. community some sort of resolution.
This was just something discovered and bringing it to the attention of the commissioners with the intent of correcting. so we can continue moving forward. And I I would like to just say this, um, we can't change what has
happened, but we have a due diligence to change or address what we can. And I can honestly say within this current administration um city attorney, city manager and staff that they've discovered a whole lot of
stuff that we compliance with and they've done an extremely extremely good job to keep it in our face and to keep those issues. So, I know a lot of times we hear the downside of things over, but
this administration has really put their boots on the ground and really made sure that from greens to um reviews on everything that we brought to them. So, I did not want to go notice because I know you getting a little flustered,
but but we wanted to commend him for what you have really brought to the light. in recent time. So, I just wanted to put that out there and to let the community know that you really diligently not only
just with this, but there's a lot of other things that not been on this that you Thank you. Did you have anything else, Commissioner F? by Absolutely. No, I just wanted to again bring it bring it out.
the brief history but I read it. Yes, it was for the reference because we we tried to move forward and find out that things but going forth like before we just go forward.
Yes. Public comment too. Do you have anything commission? No comments other than I mean I think well where our opportunities are really is is in the contracts and we need to really be focusing on contracts. I think
we need to rep prioritize some of the things that we're looking at. U contracts is what been reallyffects. Thank you. I have to I do have one public comment card submitted for this item on the agenda. Mr. Newfeld
Newfeld 554 Cedar Creek Road and Madame Mayor and commissioners and council and management. Um good evening. Um, I'm a pilot and an airport hanger tenant and an airplane plane owner since
1989. I and fellow aviators enjoyed serving our city commission prior to the official airport advisory board being established by Alan Bush and the city commission decades ago as a le as a liaison to serve the city commissioners
with aviation advice as it pertained to the airport. This was so the voice of the aviators was heard. Not through the airport manager, although I love him, not through a group of professionals by the city manager, but to the commission.
We didn't work for the airport manager. We didn't work for the city manager, but we worked for the city commission to bring direct value of an experienced aviation advisory and counselor. We functioned all these years effectively. And if this new chapter 7 of the city of
Palaka municipal code is passed, it will be very sad to see the change. This will eliminate the value of the experience servant continuity of our successful journey. Each of you know the value of the our airports to our city, our
county, and to the north Florida east quadrant of the state of Florida. as our function as a public airport. It is to serve aviators and the aviation awareness in our community together with a unified vision. We are community. We need to
accommodate everybody in their investment. And I'm in favor of accommodating Mr. Nations. Not only is he a major investor in our community, investing millions of dollars and creating dozens of jobs, but he's an anchor aviator who owns property around
our airport and airplanes. We need each other. We need our flight school. We need to accommodate their needs. And there is a solution. We need Skydive Palaca. We need Mr. Nations and his operations to feel respected and welcomed. I do not understand the need
for the ski range on airport property. Shooting near airplanes, even though it's with shotguns that don't go very far, just does not make a lot of sense. We don't need to shoot guns near flying aircraft. We function best when we accommodate our entire community. And
that's what I think our airport has been about. We owe each other love, care, and commitment to accomplish a successful city service history. We've talked about privat privatization of the airport, and that's a wonderful plan to take away
some of the troubles to do like the golf court course has done and turn it into a positive income stream. And I think commissioners that would be a very advisable consideration, not to give it away, just improve operations and the
ability to respond fast with with rolling change. I actually would have a few more comments if I'm allowed. You have if you look at the clock seven, the whole purpose of it has changed. So we're not serving y'all.
We're we're now advising the public. And I I I know I don't have time, but if you'll Okay, I'll sit down. I'll email. I'm interested in if Mayor with your permission. Um, can we turn the alarm off first before I go insane? Okay.
Thank you. Um, Mr. Woman, Mr. Mayor. Oh, just Okay. So if you go to the second page of the new code, it says the purpose of this airport advisory board is to facilitate g greater community awareness with regard to the airport and
local aviation. You don't need a board for that in my opinion. Um it's also to stimulate positive airport community growth and serve as a line of communication between the airport and local community. That's not needed either by an airport advisory board. Airport Advisory Board has always been
to serve y'all and to give you a feeling different or maybe the same as the airport manager and to be able to be a liaison with the aviation community and this is a whole different purpose than what we've done for the last several
decades. Um it said members shall be selected on the basis of their interest in promoting the airport and or knowledge and expertise on aviation matters and they shall well that's okay. So I I just see a little flaw in the
purpose of this new chapter 7 that does not really include what we have done for several decades. And our group has enjoyed serving you very much. We haven't served the management. We've served the commission with advice and counsel and we think it's been good and
we've grown together. We've become a lot so different in two decades. So radically different and it's not us. It's all of us working together and it needs to be that way in the future too. I think thank you very much. Thank you. Before you go, it's not it's not
protocol. Go ahead. Um, is anybody else here for public comment specifically? Uh, Miss on and Miss Okay, you have the airport operations. That's why
um, go ahead. The leak for kitchens collect authority. I'll say it again like I always said, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Uh I think the new ordinance since it's not in the ordinance needs probably needs to be there. But let's don't change the board makeup. The board an advisory board
advises the government. It doesn't advise me the citizen. So let's keep the board the way it is. It's worked all these years. We have a wonderful airport that's booming. We got military training at the airport. We got a lot of private people coming in buying jet fuel. The airport is doing very well. Why in the
world would you want to change it? I understand putting it in the ordinance, but let's have the the uh the makeup of the board and the ability of the board or what the responsibility of the board be like Mr. Newfield said. Let's leave it the way it is. It works. We have a great airport. We have
a great airport board. Let's leave it the way it is. Put it in the city code. If it must be there, even though it was a policy, put it in the city code for the board, but let the board re reward the the way it's worded about the board and reward it way Mr. New field suggested. Thank you. Thank you. Mr.
Mlan, do you have anything to say specifically or want to say anything publicly specifically about the ordinance itself? Okay. Thank you. Is there anybody else here for public comment? Seeing no close public comment. We respond or anything. Yes, you can
right now. Okay. So, just the main thing is that uh this is our first presentation of this ordinance. We do of course appreciate the input that we are receiving from valuable board members and uh I would
also allow you to say something more about this. Okay. Because how did we for instance get the purpose and y um so I did not pull this out of thin air. There is one undated memo uh that appears to
have been around city manager that this lady established but not formally the airport advisory board. The purpose that I establish back then I was not going to create some degree of this for this
board. asked by the actual board members. Um the the initial one included a representative from the St. John's River with the water management district. It was later found that that was causing potential conflicts of interest and so that board member was
within. Um the other members have stayed the same but we have a little to the makeup in order to accommodate the existing board that we have. So those existing board members continue
to serve in the excellent capacity that we have. that is corporation. So the intent was I'm sorry no you intent was to try our very best to keep all the board members that are on the
existing airport advisory board by these categories that are here and that's it. Go ahead, Commissioner J. Great. I was going to ask uh Mr. about the field. I'm sorry about the term limits. So that's a
important other boards have term limits and they are reappointed spout. Where are you with that? I would like to add three years. So if you look at under section D um the members are appointed for three-year
terms and they may be reappointed for no more than three ex consecutive terms. So almost a decade, nine years. Is that similar to the other ones that we did find the other uh that's similar to other boards that we have at the
city? Um that memo that I just reference to. So So for sake of consistency, are we going to make a you going doing a chart review? We're going to make that change and I'll try to uh
learn to challenge the time less because I mean sometimes I don't like board me. Uh I was the best kind of to be honest with you. Um it let it does it do limits the opportunities of others to serve in
those capacities. So sometime the growth is not there. Yeah, that would be my personal your thought or opinions not to have less of it less time on no not have to
board me on on any board and I got comment on another term limits the city commission um but individual boards. Um quite frankly,
the only board that is mentioned within the charter is the PL ambassador board. Um all the other boards should be created by so in just piggybacking off of what Commissioner Jones stated.
Um I'm not for it or against it, but in consideration if that is something to be considered. I know that there has been a struggle with trying to get people to even apply forwards. So, I don't want us to be so locked in to where we say no
more consecutive terms and then we have vacancies that we can't fill. So, in the language of just throwing it out since we're talking about it, consecutive terms or if there's no one that's interested that that person
be considered to continue within the capacity because again we it's not this but we have a whole list of boards that we're struggling to get people to apply for. So I don't want us to be so locked in that we missed opportunities
or we have out of compliance because of lack of interest. Davis. Yeah. I'd just like to pull us back to the purpose in this uh document. to hearing that I will tell you when I
read this earlier today I was like I didn't understand it at all actually so it sounds like even though this was what was originally written that sounds and we need to document current
state and so to that point I have no idea I think that it would have to go back somehat to the drawing board and expense and so bring the board in. Yeah. Yeah. It's the first
release that's embedded in whatever. Okay. And with that, do we have anything specific? I would like for the board to be considered in the makeup of this
policy. Um since they have a working knowledge of what they have been doing and to highlight um some of the things that Commissioner Davis has pointed out, I think it would be to the advantage that we encompass the involve uh the
evolution um from Mr. Bush to Miss Carney. So with that said, we are going to give this back to the board for recommendations. The existing board I can tell. Is that what we're suggesting?
Say it again. Give it back to the existing airport advisory board. They never had it. No, they never had it. So I'm asking that there be some kind of collaboration with the board and staff. Okay. Yeah.
Yes. And and for me, I was um I would like to say that next I was um I would like to recommend executing board so we can understand what the function is and then put it in appropriate language in light of what the overall
advisory roles are. Appropriate language. So Mr. Newfeld did get up and read several suggestions and maybe that is something in talking to him that could be incorporated again if it's appropriate and it will come back to this board for review after that
happens. And we're asking also for any input that the commissioners please send it so we can incorporate it. And do we have a time certain that we want this information by so it doesn't linger on this? I have nothing to submit because I am not a subject matter
expert. Oh yeah. Uh this will be brought back in July. I'm sorry. Okay. Okay. So we know and you will reach out to Mr. Newfeld. Yes, of course. Thank you. Just I just
want to make sure we close the we move forward. Okay. Thank you. Okay. With that, can I also say thank you to airport manager for all of the help that he gave us in this process. We we value
Mr. McNair and everything he has done at the airport, continues to do and we appreciate that. Um further commissioner comment. Yes. Go ahead. Speaking of advisory boards and the revisions or the
creation of the ordinances that um I would like to see probably created and that's a police out board so that maybe a board
So I want to ask basically to maybe see what other municipalities do as far as advising law enforcement their way they operate in some type of government to maybe hear complaints. Um
so I would like yeah city man and the city attorney but I think that yeah I mean creating boards boards that hadn't existed and some shift I just think that
I just would like for Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else has a commercial? Um just quickly again I'm piggybacking a lot off Commissioner Jones tonight. Um but I think it's important for us to bring back
holistically ours um so that we can um take into consideration the welfare of a lot of the to make sure that um if something is not listed that needs to be listed that can be taken
consideration county to change the bank we're going to make sure that can change what not been on those boards have not been related to the board you know
take so I think it's an opportunity for him that's something I think today make up some of the policies and
procedures forward to Any any comments, Commissioner Bl? Okay, with that said, do we have a motion to adjourn? Motion to adjourn. Thank you all.
We'll see you at the budget meetings.