Welcome everybody here. We're welcome everybody. We are here to honor and congratulate the students of the month for the month of March. Um I will call out your name for the student and give you a certificate. Well, actually, I'm going to hand the certificate to Commissioner Davis and Commissioner um
Campbell are here to help and I'm going to get call your name. You will pick up the certificate. We'll shake your hands and then at the end of all of that, we'll be taking photos. So, please stay up in front if you once your name has been called. We're going to start with Bailey Thomas, Browning PS Elementary
School. Emory Wright, Children's Reading Center, Child School, McKenzie Koba, James A. Long. Congratulations >> Adrien Romero Kelly Smith Elementary.
Congratulations Adrian. Congratulations >> Liam Pittz Melon Elementary. But >> okay, that will that's next. Emanuel Rivera at Melon Learning Center K
through 12. >> Congratulations. Jewel Mosby Mosley Elementary. Jewel, congratulations. Congratulations. >> Congratulations, Aiden Plateau. Um, Panio Baptist,
Somaya Edwards, Putnham Academy of the Arts and Sciences. >> Okay. Well, I grabbed that. Um, and that's it. Thank you everybody, but we're going to stay up here and take photos. Um, educators, please come up to
indiv with the parents. afterwards. >> I'm calling this meeting to order. It is uh the city commission meeting on March 12, 2026 at 6 p.m. Pastor Malbury will lead us in the invocation and Commissioner Jones will lead us in the pledge. Please stand if you're able.
Pastor Malbury. >> Father in heaven, thank you again for your loving kindness and tender mercy. We thank you God for allowing us to come together once again. We pray God that you will look on our nation. If there ever was a time that we'd need you, God,
we need you right now. We pray even for the wisdom in this meeting, God, as you come together to do the business for this city, God. Give us wisdom and guidance by the Holy Ghost. Give us what to do and how to do. God, remind us of
our civility, God, in all that we do that will bring you the glory. It is in Jesus name we pray. Amen. >> Amen. Please join us in the pledge. >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Roll call, please. Madam cler. >> Commissioner Campbell, >> present. >> Commissioner Jones, >> present. Commissioner War
>> present. >> Commissioner Davis >> present. Mayor >> present. We have quorum. Thank you. Has everybody had an opportunity to read the minutes for February 26, 2026? >> Motion to approve. >> I have a correction if
>> I'll second it. What? Go ahead. >> Uh I have a correction. Um, on the section that references the workshop, there's a date of March 11th in that paragraph, which should not be there. I believe we voted on March 18th. The rest
of the paragraph is correct. So, if you correct that. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> We have with the correction. >> Okay, we have a motion with a correction. >> Second. >> Second. All in favor? I. Any opposition? Thank you, >> Mayor. Yes,
>> excuse me. Um, I would like to add to the agenda a presentation. Uh, we have a person that traveled very far. >> Okay. Although we didn't advertise it, so I'm not totally comfortable with that. >> So, can it be then a public comment
instead? >> Yes, that would be preferable. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Um, on to city manager and administrative reports annexation update. Mr. Commissioners, >> good evening. >> Good evening.
>> Good evening. >> This is just a brief update uh of the program, the program the staff been working uh following your directions. As you know, the city has attempted, you know, to eliminate the city for some time. Uh very recently we had a meeting
with the city I mean with the county and we attempted you know to to advance an agreement a bond b service agreement with the county. Um
so we like I said this is an annexation program the intent is to alle the state of Florida. So we are very consistent with that. Uh I just want to touch the items that we've been working on, the staff have been working on ahead of your workshop
that you still have to set it up so that uh so that you know what we're working on. There are some aspect that is there are some points that we've been concentrating on and these are the first one is the legal aspects of the voluntary annexation. We want to make
sure that whatever we do is consistent with the statutes and with the law. We also looking into the benefits of the voluntarianization into the city. We want to explore what benefit could bring uh to property owners. Uh also we are
looking at the main benefit that the city could have you know by eliminating this an obviously we need to know the capacity. We're working on that of our utilities to extend services to this an area.
That's the critical component for whatever we do with annexation. We need to make sure you know that we have the capacity to provide water services, sewer services to the area to be annexed. We're also looking into the fiscal and
financial impacts of providing those services. As you know, providing those services not something cheap. It's not for free. And that would include also not just water and sewer but it would include police and fire service as well. And finally the last one we're trying to
address is come up to a pri priority of areas that we could uh annex this place. And then obviously we have to do a a reach out to the community to get to the areas of the annexation to explain you
know like I said the benefits to property owners and also to the city. So that is what we're working on. Um we're going to be presenting at the workshop to you maybe in the form of a white paper about the elimination plate and
and we're going to bring some maps you know so you have a very good feel what it is. Any questions of Mr. Agamo? Obviously, we're going to delve into it much further in a workshop. >> Just one thing. Go ahead. >> But what is what was your timeline again for the
>> We're waiting for for the city commission to set up that workshop. You know, we've been working for the last few weeks on this. >> Okay. >> All right. Well, >> that that's fine. Um, so we have a workshop upcoming this week and so when
do we want another workshop? So we Yeah, we have one on March 18th, I believe. >> Yes, that's this week. >> Karen, can you see a possible date? >> Next weekend workshop. >> And we have a lot of budget workshops coming up. So, do we want to do it in
early April? Do we want to do it before the end of the month? I'm just throwing all that out there. What What are we thinking? >> So, we have one on the 18th. Do we want to do it the following week or wait till April, the week of
a day >> right I couple of dates do we what day of the week do we prefer >> go ahead Mr. It's just a personal thing. You know, I would like to be part of this workshop, but I'm not going to be here.
>> That's right. Okay. >> I would request that we do it. >> Yeah. No, we need you here. We need you at the workshop. Yeah, we need you at the workshop. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, can we get back to the commissioners? >> That's what I was thinking. Why don't you get back to us with some potential
>> communication? What what the >> when will you be back? I think we need to go ahead and put it on the calendar. >> At least put the dates >> right after Easter. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, >> so we couldn't get dates right now after
the six. >> I'm sorry. I didn't realize what I needed to do. >> Okay. >> Well, would it be possible for us to just submit our dates um since it's in April sometime? So submit submit them uh in a in a timely manner within the next
week. >> We will >> I mean we have another >> we will communicate. >> Yeah. We can just submit each one of our availabilities in April. >> Oh, that would be great. >> I think it's best to come up with a couple. >> We have another commission meeting. So possibly we can have this as something
that we can iron out prior to >> the commission meeting. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you. >> Yes. Go ahead. >> For for the workshop, uh Mr. Enzo,
>> um some information that would be important to me is for those uh potential areas that would eliminate the enclaves if we could understand whether it even if it's not the exact number because we do provide services to
certain people I believe for a higher rate. So when we're talking about capacity, some of those areas that's not annexing may already be receiving some city services. But if we could get a feel of what that number looks like as well, so we can have an accurate understanding of the capacity potentially needed.
>> Yeah, our intent is to identify you know those are like you know area one, two or three and then have some data attached that each area. You can see some of them like you said are service already by war z are not. >> Sure. Okay.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Mayor Carrera. I have the dates up there on the on the screen for April. Those are April meetings >> for current meetings. So, already scheduled. >> Can you make it larger? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Would be helpful.
>> 9th. Oh. >> Um, perfect. >> April 9th. Is that what possible? >> April 9th commission meeting. Yeah, >> but you were looking for a workshop. >> We have a budget workshop on the pave. >> So,
we could >> So, do we want to choose a date now or do we want to wait and have some >> Does anybody want to respond? >> What about doing it after the CRA meeting? It's at five. So that's the five to six >> with any luck. Yeah. I mean that's up to
the the majority. I'm fine with that if that's what the board would like. >> It's better than adding another meeting day. >> Yeah. Let's just roll. >> That's fine. So you're saying to 6? >> No, on the 20th. >> On the 20th. >> The 20th the CRA meeting. Then is that
five or 5 to 6 and then we roll on into workshop? >> Workshop. >> I can address it as um immediately following so that there's no time set. >> Please. Yes. Okay, thank you. >> Is everybody okay with that? Yes, sir. >> Thank you. Okay, now we can move along. Thank you.
>> Um, city manager report. >> Yes, ma'am. Um, good evening commissioners. >> Good evening. >> Good evening, >> everyone. Um, just wanted to give some pointers on if Karen you I'll wait for you. but the organizational chart that
we have uh finally kind of updated uh with positions that have been filled and so um I was hoping that we could see that and um also there was an analysis that was completed as she's waiting to
bring that up with the Avalor. Okay, there's the organizational charge small but we'll send it to you so everyone have an opportunity. I think I >> we already have a big >> Oh, good. very good. Thank you, Karen. Thank you.
>> For the community. >> So, basically, this takes into consideration positions that uh you know, we were charged with filling over the past two years and fortunately a good portion of them are now filled such
as um procurement that never existed before. Um the public information officer is there. Yeah. So it gives you a snapshot of of where we are and what we're doing. So
it's just for your appreciation. The administrative assistant uh the engineer will will be on board soon and um so that person we're looking forward to that.
So this just gives you an understanding of how we're flowing today and this is what we're doing actually. So just wanted to give you an update. Okay. >> Thank you. >> Can we go to uh the Avalor please? So
with that um basically our Avalorum uh revenues are about 4 uh projected in this budget year to be about 4.7 million. our finance director is here but um it constitutes an average of
about 23% of our general fund and also the Avalorum revenue uh supports public safety and public safety is consisting of fire and police and it supports those
both of those departments by almost 60%. And uh one of the analysis that we worked on recently showed that uh our operational budget is about 40 million. So if we were to lose that 4.5 million or 4.3
million, it's about 10% of our total operational budget. And what we're doing, we're gaining that kind of information so that we can start uh developing strategies and avenues as to what we will do. Uh initially, one of
the first areas that we would look at would be capital expenditures. And um so I just want you to know want to keep you updated that we are doing we are preparing information and we intend to inform the community more as we get
into that. The next item was uh vacant lots. Uh just wanted all of us to be alert that we have 118 city-owned vacant lots of which 41 are uh preliminarily determined to be available for potential
redevelopment. 31 have limited opportunity for development and 46 are considered nondevelopable. I don't know Karen, can you catch up? You can't. >> It's not me. All right. And that's okay.
Um, also there were 11 lots which were adopted back in 2023, I believe, by the commissioners to be available for affordable housing under the uh live local act. So, we are going to have a
workshop on vacant lots. So, I just bringing that to your awareness. We are assessing the lots as well. >> Thank you, Commissioner. Well, she just she just actually answered because I wanted to know if there was a list of
those properties that we would be providing, but she stated that we are going to have a workshop. So, >> yes, sir. >> I'm good. >> Okay. And then finally, I wanted to give you an update on joint city county update that we are beginning uh to work
with the county staff to follow up with the recommendations that were made at the meeting in January 2026. So, we're hoping to have another meeting scheduled between March and April. >> It sounds like April's more realistic
>> at this point. Yes, because we are communicating back and forth. Um the other item I just wanted to mention was about the um uh we're going to look more at the boards. the comp not
not so much the composition of the boards but um some of the ways that we can improve our boards meaning like uh the number required the uh making sure that we're doing some of the steps that
you all recommended such as uh absenteeism you know those kind of things and I'm just alerting you that we are having to look at that more carefully uh we we did have a situation where our planning board was not able to um have a quorum
and so we want to correct all that as much as we can. So, uh legal is working with that as well. >> Thank you. Any questions? >> Did you want to say anything? Okay. >> Any questions? The city manager. Go ahead, Commissioner Davis. >> I would, you know, when we're uh
referencing these items that we need to consider and we're saying consider them at a future workshop. Right now we have two workshops already scheduled. So my question is when we're saying at a future workshop, can we add it to agenda
so we can create these agendas so we know what we're talking about versus just putting it in the atmosphere at a workshop? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. So thank you. >> Thank you. >> And the same for the vacant lots. I mean
same thing we said. So can we put those? Can we add that to the April 20th meeting since we're already talking about annexation? >> Yes, ma'am. I will. >> Sure. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Anybody else? >> Okay. Thank you.
>> We're going to move on to public comments. These are public comments for items that are general, not specific to anything on the agenda. Items on the agenda. We'll have public comment for those items at a later time on the agenda. Is anybody here for general
public comments? And I have some cards. Mr. Alexander, do you want to just do you want to provide public comment now or do you want to wait until we get to the agenda item? >> Mr. Alexander, do you want to come up now during general public comment or do you want to wait till we get to the item
on the agenda that pertains to the murals? It's up to you. >> Okay, come on up. You got to wait. Excuse me. Yeah. Come up. Mr. Alexander, please give your ad name and city or town of residence.
>> Order. Uh, madame mayor, commissioners. Um, I feel that the Collins Mural Committee has set the bar of excellence standards pretty high for a product that
has stood the test of time. that people have traveled here uh near and far on cruise ships, uh tour buses, and in their own vehicles to see and hear the stories of Alaska history.
We use the best paints. We pressure wash, clear coating. We touch up the murals. We use accurate information so that our QR codes and brochures will present a quality product that the
community and visitors can enjoy and be proud of. If anything, these groups uh that are forming recently will be should be following the
standards of the common mural committee and they should set that have were set since 1998. In our opinion, the mules should be grandfathered in as an automatic part of
our city. For generations, the city has assisted us uh and helped us. They supported us. The city has been a great help in the past. However, with prices rising, many of our
older murals need to be repainted. We need more funds. The Connor mural committee has the connector. I hope will be good to the murals by not approving uh new committees and
ordinances. That's why we're called the city of murals painted by the best artist quality work that has been done over the years, not just the past two or three years. Our founders, the late
commissioner Leon Connley, Clint and Elizabeth Snder love and had high standards which we continue to follow today. >> Thank you.
>> Please know hold the applause, please. Hold the applause. Thank you. Um, Mr. Vickers. Mr. Vickers. Yes. Come on up. t name and um town, city of residence, please
>> ask you 207. I'm here to inquire with some understanding about your impact fees that you it is still out there on with it. I've been trying to call somebody to find out I can't
thank you >> Miss Duke Duke Florida. Um, I have a question about the intermediate Do I need to push button? >> Um, about the intermediate school that's on Horseman's Club Road. Is whether
that's a city school or is that considered a county school? Does it and does it have um um does the city supply them with water and sewage treatment at that school? Um, so my question actually
dealt with the fact that there's no sidewalks from the new school to the subdivisions that are there on Horseman's Club Road. So if it was a city school, I was going to ask about that and the fact that there are no sidewalks and I think there should be sidewalks from our brand new
intermediate school that's right in the middle of subdivisions. Thank you. >> Thank you, Rod James. Please give your name and town or city of residence. My >> My name is Rod James. I live in Poke
City, Florida. I'm a former resident of Palata. I was born and raised here. My family was born and raised here. And I'm here uh to in my class, the class of 1969. Rod James. I'm the I'm I'm the president now of the 1969 graduate of
Central Academy High School. And I know that most of you know about Central Academy because it was the first AfricanAmerican school in Florida that was fully accredited. And back in the day, that meant something. And it I'm sure it means something today too to be to have
your school fully accredited because it means that your school had the resources, it had the teachers, it had the building, it had everything for those children to go forward. And I was one of those children. I became a warden 36 years with the Florida Department of
Corrections. So I'm here now to straighten something or have you straighten something. uh for years that school was there and uh uh we had one man who stood in the gap and came downtown to advocate for those students
and that man was Fred R. Brooks. Mr. Brooks uh uh brought in great teachers, great teachers to teach those students. He brought in teachers whose names were Ragsdale and Willingham and Cooper and Henderson. I mean I mean he
did a great job. Now, two of his teachers, Miss Ragsdale and and Coach Cooper, have things named for them in this city. Miss Ragdale has a housing community on on the west side of Palaca named after her. Coach Cooper has a recreation center and he's co-enamed on
the Pala High School football stadium. But there's nothing that recognizes the efforts of that old man. And that old man stood in the gap. His greatest saying was, "What whatever you ought to be, you are now becoming." He he I mean up and down the halls all day long
trying to encourage young black kids to go and do their best. I love the man. He lives on the the street where my mother still has a home on Napoleon Street. And the reason I'm here now is because I we susp
in in the future be called Fred R. Brooks Avenue. I mean, that old man, wherever he is, if you're able to do that, we'll be smiling now. I mean, the street is named Napoleon, but Napoleon was a a general on the the uh he fought
in what Europe and Asia, but he never set foot on the North American continent, nor did he step step foot on in uh north side of Palaca. But uh uh commissioners, we need to do something for Mr. Brooks. You know, we renamed we renamed the school after one of one of
our classmates, Jenkins, when turned to a middle school. But when that was happening, a lot of people in Palaca thought that school would be named after Mr. Brooks because the man was beloved. He's still beloved. I drove all the way here to come and ask you to do that to
make to put this request in to to have you change the name of Napoleon Street to Fred R. Brooks Avenue. I went up. >> That's my >> That's your >> I think I got it now. Could I have a half a second for >> half second? Half second.
>> I went through Walmart. I walked down Napoleon Street and asked people. Now, there are young people now who don't know Mr. Brooks, but their parents do >> and they say, "Mama told me about that or daddy told me about that." So, Mr. Brook's name will pass into obscurity unless we do something and we don't want
that to happen. >> Thank you. Please hold on the applause. But thank you, >> Mr. Aldic. Do you want to speak now or wait till that topic is on the >> Okay, come on up. Give us your name and city or town of residence, please.
>> Good evening. My name is Abdul Rahman Satadine Alik. Uh I live in Palaka, Florida, 209 South 4th Street. Uh I attended the information session uh about a week or two weeks ago about Port Consolidated. Uh I've been working since
then with local businesses and other developers to activate that space. We've had a difficult time with process and access. Uh the city says it wants local residences and business incubators to activate these public spaces and
these public owned buildings. Uh please consider what it takes to actually get that. I'm talking about process and access. Uh that would go a long way. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Is there anybody else here for public
comment on general items to come on? Uh Mr. Clunch. Good evening, Madame Mayor and commissioners. Um, >> could you give us your name, please? >> Oh, my name is Robbie Klanch of Palaca, Florida. >> Thank you. >> Sorry. Um, I would like to start off by
personally, openly, and publicly apologizing for my outburst at the last meeting. Um, I would also like to acknowledge um your city clerk. She is phenomenal.
She has worked side by side with me for the last five or six months. Um, I will tell you part of that was because of her actions at the last meeting, but she took it out of her time to personally email me and apologize for misspeaking
at that meeting when she realized that she had made a mistake. It also comes from the fact that I stand up here and I talk openly about my situation. And then I sit down in one of those chairs and I sit there
and I listen to your city manager make comments that are not accurate. On December 11th, approximately 1 hour and 40 minutes into the meeting, your city manager stated that she met with me.
She had not met with me. That was halfway for the reason for my public records to prove that to y'all because I had addressed that to certain people on the diets and it was not addressed. So with that being said, that comment
alone being stated in a public meeting is an ethics violation. So, I'm asking you to hold your one employee accountable for her actions because earlier this week, she pretty
much stated to me, "Mr. Campbell, you received my email and 100% I if I have time, I will state what's in that email, and that is 100% my goal." But earlier this week, she basically told me that she no longer wants to have communication with me. She has told me
this multiple times throughout the last five or 6 months, but she turned me over to your attorney this week. That's basically asking for a lawsuit, especially when you haven't gave me my public records yet. Your attorney
did exactly what Mr. Boram asked her to do at the last meeting. Her original document that I received on January the 30th contained 3.8 8 megabytes of data. The one I received from Miss West
yesterday contains 1.3 gigabytes of data. If anybody has any kind of computer knowledge, that is a very large difference. A very, very large difference.
And that is because her employees were not giving Miss Karen the documents that she needed. That is why there's such a difference. At least that's my belief. But once again, I I 100% want to tell
you I appreciate Mr. Campbell because he's the only one that responded to me after the last meeting. And I 100% I would I would I if I don't know how it goes about, but if Mr. Campbell could show you that email that I sent him afterwards,
I'm not worried about Oakill West. I'm worried about all three cemeteries. And you have to finish up. >> My future goal is to have all three cemeteries beautiful with the irrigation landscaping. So, >> please finish up. Okay. >> And one other thing I want to cl you
made a comment on the December 11th meeting that came up today. I never asked the city for money. My contribution was I'm willing to raise that money myself. >> Thank you. >> And pay every last bit of this $1.8 million to fix Opill Cemetery. I've
already done the math. >> Okay. Thank you. Please. >> Thank you. You have a wonderful day. >> Is there any else here for public comment? >> Seeing none, we're going to close public comment. Do we want to provide responses, please, to these? >> Yes.
>> Okay. Um, >> one minute. Commissioner Campbell. >> Commissioner Davis. >> Commissioner Davis first. >> Yes. I'd like to respond to the comments from Mr. James and the class of 1969. Um, I had the opportunity to speak with them. So, I want to be transparent about
that. And, um, I do know they have taken the efforts from what they were told to do to obtain the signatures needed from citizens of Palaca for the renaming of that. And so what I'd like to just ask
is for the city manager to um outline what's needed to officially enter this request in um for consideration. Thank you. >> Thank you, Commissioner Campbell. >> I wanted to
address uh the concerns Mr. Robbie just made and complete transparency. Um after the meeting um I did follow up with him to ask him exactly what was his desire of the commission so that I would have a
clear understanding. Um and part of that documentation um within that email was ultimately to basically sponsor or not sponsor or help facilitate um a community cleanup in our
local cemeteries as one. Um and I uh offered that I do believe that is something that is tangible um if we work together as a uh city as well as organizations or anyone else that would
be interested. he has been very um up forth and you know with regards to his request and I think somewhere in there there may have been a miscommunication but ultimately it is to beautify those cemeteries and I do
believe that is something from the city's perspective that we can partner and try to make that community effort because I'm sure if he thinks about it that way there are others that think about it and would would be willing to help chip in and uh provide whatever
services they can to help beautify our cemeteries. >> Thank you. Anybody else before I turn it over to Miss? >> Yes. I mean, I want to um respond. I mean, I didn't respond to your uh Mr. Clunch, I didn't respond to your uh email in that regard, but I do support
the efforts relating to that. And again, the uh email that you received uh on behalf of my request for to um the city manager and um whoever the designate was to obtain that information. Yeah, it just come from knowledge of having the
information of how things work from a technological standpoint. And um so I'm glad you was able to get your information that you um were seeking. Uh to Mr. um Vicker's comment around the impact fees. Um I'm not sure who you was trying
to reach, how many time you call, do you have any uh who you were who what what number you call, who you talk to as it relates to impact fees because we have people here that answer phones and should return your call back. So that's
just what I would like to obtain. >> I'll let Mrs. Connie speak to that and also have her connect Mr. Vickers with somebody who can help him. >> Yes. Yes. >> Okay. So, as it relates to uh the mural with Connley Snider just >> I think we're
>> No, we talk about impact finish the impact fees. >> All right. For the impact fees, I'd like Mr. uh Lorenzo if you can tell us more about that impact fees, how we collect it, how we calculate it. >> I I think that Mr. because he's looking specifically for somebody to reach out
to him. >> Then it would be he can reach out to Mr. Lorenzo and he will tell you anything you need to know about impact. >> I think his question was was the impact fees in force and I think he was trying to obtain information from whoever I
don't know who he called but we just need to understand and know if we're getting back to him. He say he he I don't know if he left voice messages or what but we just need to be more customer focused. >> Okay. And we are we are talking about the city impact fees noted >> only city impact fees. We can't talk
about county because we don't that's not our >> giving Mr. Vickers the direct extension number so he can call Mr. directly please. >> So can you just uh >> Well, that's a concern of mine though. Here here's what we got. It's a concern
of mine that Mr. Vicker said that he's been making calls. I'm not sure who he called or or if he left message or or whatever, but we I need to understand and know if he left a message with somebody and they didn't get back to you. We owe people we we owe our our
citizens >> responses back. We are public servants. >> Yes. >> Well, since full transparent, I received a call today from Mr. Vickers that I have not returned yet. >> No, I mean no, no, no. So, I want to be clear. So you're opening a can
>> Mr. Victor when when did you call? >> No, let's I do believe >> don't do this at the meeting. >> Mr. Agamo, if you would be able to make contact with Mr. Vickers, I'll be happy to be happy with you. >> That's what I was trying to do. >> Thank you. >> All right. So, can I respond to anything
else? >> I can just respond. Excuse me. >> Go right on to you. You were talking about the mural committee and Mr. Alexander. >> Yeah, I with Mr. Alexander, uh, please feel comfortable with connecting with myself and Miss Nicole so we can help
you. Uh, but I noticed you were speaking about an ordinance. Is that what your concern is? >> Let's not have a give and take. Somebody connect us and we will follow up. >> That's all right. >> Okay. Uh, as it relates to the um
um I I think I wanted to go more with Mr. um clunch with the um >> no we're not no m >> so please just come back to the office and we will work with you and address whatever your concerns are. That's all I
can say. >> Commissioner Campbell, >> I would like for us to get a better grip as to who is to respond >> to whom >> to whom. And that's just pretty much all I'm going to
say. Um because a lot of times responses are based off emotions and that is not what we're here for. And so in order for us to make this more effective, I would like for us from the day to gauge and direct a little bit
more as to who would respond um to the concerns that have been brought before us. Commissioner. >> Yes, I agree with Commissioner Campbell. What I will say, um, in terms of Mr. Vickers, he said impact fees. I'm not
sure what the question is, but I do know that that information should come from the city and someone should reach out to him. So, to Commissioner Campbell's point, um, the other point I'd like to make and and some of this is in relation
to Mr. Is it KL clunch? >> Kunch clunch. Um, one thing I want to just clarify is roles and responsibilities. And while the call might have gone to, and I don't know the details, but this
is a general statement. while calls may go to the city manager to speak to her directly whether she called or not and that's something we'll look into later but every person who works for the city of Palaca
works for the city manager and sometimes and again we will look into this sometimes what the response looks like is the appropriate staff member following up with you to try to get you that information so I do want to I'm not excusing anything or any perception. I
do want to state that fact that sometimes the city manager may not call back, but if someone on her staff calls back to follow up on that, they work for her. And so nothing should occur from in
a situation like that from her staff, especially with the city attorney, the city clerk that the city manager is not aware of. So, I do want to make that statement and I will say unequivocally that it is not the desire of this
commission nor the city manager and I feel confident speaking on her behalf as our one employee to disregard citizens or comments or questions or any inquisitions that occur. So, continue to report them if you find that to be true.
And I tell you, we all take that seriously as you can hear from the deas now. So, thank you. I just want to make that clarification. >> Thank you. Any further comments? Um, >> the one thing um and Miss Cardi, you're
regarding uh Mr. James, we can move. >> Yes, forward with that. >> Thank you. I appreciate it. >> Yes, I will give him complete guidance and the forums and so forth. >> I appreciate >> Thank you. And did you have something, Commissioner Long? >> I just >> Okay, thank you. Um on to the consent
agenda. Are there any items to pull from the consent agenda? >> Yeah, >> there were just a few other issues. Um Miss Duke's in Go ahead. >> Um Mr. Lorenzo Agimo could probably
address whether or not the school on Horseman Club Road is >> Oh, yes. I'm sorry. >> I have it down. >> That's in the county. >> The county. >> That's the county. Miss Dukes. >> Well, let let Mr. Agamo come up and say that and that we shouldn't all be yelling. Uh, thank you.
>> Can Can you repeat that for me? >> School that Miss >> the school on Horseman Club's Ro on Horseman Club Road. >> Oh, that's that's the county school. >> And she also questions if we provided water. Correct. >> Yeah, I will have to check that with our water utility department to see whether
they're they're being provided. >> I'm sorry, mayor. I cannot hear. There's a lot of talking. Could you >> uh for those of you who are talking, please don't. It's hard for us to hear if there's multiple conversations going on. Thank you. Go ahead, Mr. Agamo. I'm sorry. >> Yeah, I'm I'm just saying water and
sewer has to be provided to the school. >> So, I will check, you know, with the utility department, with the public works department to see where that's the case, >> but it is a county school. >> And so therefore, part of the question was also sidewalks. We're not responsible for the sidewalk.
>> If it is in the county, we're not. If it is in the city, we we do have a requirement that they have to put sidewalk. However, if it is a a project that is being done by the school board, they're exempt from our building permits and you know, we have no jurisdiction.
>> Thank you. Thank you. Any Did we miss anything else? >> Uh the comment about the port consolidated process. >> Oh yes, sorry. Did my bad's gone. Um but go ahead. Does somebody want to respond to that? Well, >> the question was access. It sounded like access as I >> understood.
>> I believe all that is being requested is access to see the interior of the building which we've done before with the public. I don't see a problem with doing that again. >> So again, somebody would need to call Mr. Aldick and and do we have his number? >> I can get the number to you. You would
take care of it. I can get the number to you. His number to you. Okay. Thank you. >> Do are we set? Thank you. Sorry for missing those consent agenda. So item F was pulled. Anything else?
>> I >> I >> item I. >> You don't have anything? >> Item I >> I I Okay. Anything else? Paul, >> I'll make a motion that we accept the consent agenda excluding items F and I
for discussion. >> Second. >> We have a motion to second. All in favor? I >> I any opposition? >> Thank you. Item F adopt resol please. No conversations in the audience. It is kind of disruptive for us. Sorry. Um
adopt resolution 2026 R39 authorizing the purchase of real property located at 225 North Second Street Palaca also known as Liberty Church property for $175,000. Commissioner Ball. >> Uh yes. I just want to have that item pulled so I can understand um why the
city is is interested in acquiring properties. >> Okay. Um if I may. >> Yeah. >> Because we're in the midst of um looking also at port consolidated and preparing
for the future uh development and expansion. I I am interested if it's possible and I did send it to commissioners for you know feedback etc. Um that property is situated right next door to our annex building. It would
help solidify the block our block uh for city expansions etc. So that's why we're interested. Also, um we were looking at it for a possible uh community
uh committee commission expansion, etc. So, I'm just looking at that property asking for permission to continue. >> Question. Where is all of this funding coming from? Well, as you know, this funding,
there are some funds that we've allocated that we're not actually spending right now. Uh because we cannot uh let me pull this 175. Hold on. My well, my concern is we we we're taking additional properties. It's
already off tax, but we're we're the city. We're taking it, we are seeking to go out and pull and and you mentioned also you mentioned to me the hotel. >> So what I need to understand and know our long-term what kind of funding we
have that we're acquiring so much so many properties and we're seeing some of the financial reports that we're falling short in certain areas in various departments. And so where's all this money coming from being that we only we
only uh uh through Avalorum tax get about 4.7 million a year through just base Avalorum tax and we're heavily funded through grants >> and so we do have the funds if I am
allowed to expand in that area for the benefit of the city. Uh but it is the commissioner decision. And I think I put all of the information in there. I cannot find it right now. Okay. >> But it would be in the best interest if you'd like to talk about it further.
>> Yeah. I think we need a better explanation of where those funds are exactly coming from. I think that's what Commissioner Bor's asked. >> Okay. Hold on. Let me and Commissioner Campbell, >> in addition to what Commissioner Bor has stated, I do feel a item of this magnitude should not have been on the
consent agenda. this should have been a part of regular business that would allowed us the opportunity to hear the presentation as well as have us to have the discussion. So, I'm grateful that Commissioner Borm pulled this item in
addition to the statements that I've already made. I think that we need to be mindful of things that are placed in certain areas on our agenda because it does not give us the
opportunity to really vet or really be able to dive into some of the discussion because again, you're asking for this $175,000. Again, you have to provide and you stated that you sent us email.
>> Did you receive any feedback from >> requested? >> I'm saying but did you receive feedback? That should have been an indicator that if I had not received any communications back from anyone that sits on this dis that it should come
>> to us in a different manner. Okay. And so I would like for you to really take those kind of things into consideration. not stating that you know agreed with Comm Commissioner Borum as far as the funding but again allowing you to explain the vision that you do have and
allow making sure that if we are agreement with the alignment of that. So again I just take take those things in consideration as we move forward that some of those things should not be on consent agenda but be more so um on regular business so that we can have the
proper discussion. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. Go ahead, commission for ahead. >> In my last couple of comments, uh, about how how we're spending money on buildings. I mean, we we we've spent
several hundred,000 on the the river center before we we brought it up to snuff before we got rid of it. >> We we spent several hundred,000 on that with within a year or two before we did away with it. Now, that's that's another comment. You're building out the annex
over here. There's a number of offices going in. I need to understand and know what the capital improvements are. I mean, or the the remodeling cost that we're doing on the buildouts of the building next door here. Then we still have things that we got to deal with
next door that's going to be mon. It's going to be monstrous, >> but it's not funded by us. That next door, you know, just letting you know. >> Let him finish. >> I I hear what you're saying. >> Okay. But what I'm saying is we gave up
a building that we were getting money from rent on it and we end up getting that. So that I'm just we just got to figure out how why we're spending the money the way we're spending it. Don't make sense to me. >> Commissioner Davis and then I then I'll turn it over to you. Commissioner Davis,
>> I what I what I hear being asked for from the deas is an overall vision, right, to explain and without that overall vision, it's hard to understand the pieces and parts that are coming and
and that we don't know what it fits into. And I think that's what I hear um the commissioners who have spoken say. So that would be helpful. My question is for this particular property,
is there a time constraint? >> Uh, Leo, if you could address that. >> Yeah, I'd like to get more info. >> Miss Pia, you wanted to say something? Come up to the podium, please. >> Yeah. Yes. There uh the letter of intent
here >> that was sent out here >> on February 27th. contemplated a due diligence period of 60 days >> from the effective date of the purchase and sale agreement which is all
contingent on commission approval. So if the commission doesn't approve >> it does doesn't so >> go ahead one at a time please. >> No you >> I'm I'm I'm confused about the letter of intent. I mean okay question. Did it
come from anybody up here from the das for us to be looking at because I think we set the vision for the city and we we we set the full vision for the city as to how the city should operate for the you should execute that. So did we provide
you with a vision to purchase that building and move forward with that and with the with this letter of intent? >> No, only the fact that I so where the confusion is then so let me speak directly is that when I'm sending it to
you to ask for your you know is this do you agree to this? Is this okay? I'm thinking that if you don't respond that it's okay. So now I know better. >> Stop thinking. No, no, no. what you need to do, you need to we need to have a
conversation. Everybody need to be on board with it and we'll we'll agree. Don't send emails because you don't get a response. That doesn't necessarily mean we're saying yes. >> Right. So, and since you said that, then given that you said that, then this
should not be on the agenda until I can hear from you better. >> And especially not on the consent agenda. >> Especially Right. Thank you. I did ask Miss Miss Pia to come up first before not to be rude, but go ahead, Miss Pia. Quickly. Um, just so I'm just
so in the record that part of the process anytime we're spending funds, whether it's to purchase property or anything, we have no choice but to be transparent because that is a requirement. Um, so in this case, yes,
we're it was a request for 175,000. And in the memo or in the staff memo, there's an explanation explaining that there's a this would be a budget transfer from a restricted fund that's reserved only for capital. The funds would be coming from Rolling Hill Storm
Water. There in cases, as you know, sometimes we have money set aside for a project. If the project comes under budget and there's extra um funds available because the project was under budget and the public works department was so amazing, then we have extra
funds. I hear what you're saying. And so she's not we we can't just keep in mind that we can't just spend things any any way that we want to. We are constricted. We have to comply with statutes. We have to be transparent. That's part of our
our process and that's included in the staff memo. just for the record. >> But it didn't come it didn't it wasn't initiated from this board. >> Thank you. Um and Commissioner Jones was first, please. >> I don't have anything. >> Oh, I thought you were going to say something.
>> Okay, then go ahead, Commissioner Davis. >> So, I I want to offer what I got from this when I was preparing for this meeting. I did look at it. I did look the questions that are being asked are very valid. I also asked Miss Cardi about it in my one-on-one meeting. What
I understood that I don't feel is being said that I felt I understood that I'm not hearing tonight is that it was part of and my understanding is when we're looking at this gateway. I'm just saying that that's what I
understood. It was part of this gateway and this what is uh city complex that this property became available and it was offered because it was um directly next door to our annex and it was
offered to the city is my understanding. I also understood where the money was coming from because I asked the question earlier and I understood that that's where I think it says it somewhere. I can't I've read too much this week. >> But um so that was my understanding. Now
whether it should be on the consent agenda, I agree because I think we all need to discuss it. But I also that's why I asked the question about the um time constraint, but I thought it was part of an overall vision. Not saying it came that vision came from the
commission, but from this gateway and this um city complex by owning property contingent, I'm sorry, contiguous to our existing property. That was my understanding before I got here. I just didn't hear the answers to the questions
that the other commissioners have asked. Thank you. >> And I don't have an issue with if she has the vision >> to me. >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just making a statement. >> If there is a vision and it's something that it needs to just be brought for
before us in a different manner, >> okay? >> I'm not stating that I'm for it and I'm not stating that I'm against it, but I'm I am against something like this being on the consent agenda versus being on regular business so that we can hear clearly what your vision is or the
vision and then being able to properly discuss. And I concur that with that's the issue. Thank you. >> Great. And I I agree and I understood the premise of it all and what the intent or the hope was, but I I agree this was not the place for it. So for
with that said, >> we we just want to >> I make a motion that we uh table >> right >> this discussion until our next commission meeting and add this as
regular business. Thank you for their guidance. Thank you. >> Okay, second. >> We have a motion, a second. Any further discussion? >> All in favor? >> I opposition. Thank you. I release of lean at 1315 Laurel Street, Principal
Partners LLC. Commissioner Jones, >> Mr. >> You have to tell why you >> right. What What was Why did you pull it? What was What would you like to know? >> Because because
>> no just >> um code enforcements have been spending time, effort, money to go out and actually enforce the code
and the violations. We actually in um have these fines imposed on folk that are not in compliance. If we're gonna I've said this before, if we're gonna reduce the leans to nothing, why do the
enforcement? Because we just wasting our time. We're talking about the homestead exemption taxes may be going away. So, that mean we're going to have to our department's going to have to have revenue coming in. I'm just
looking for the city side because I'm happy that um that the homestead tax exemption may come because it's going to help the citizens of Palaka. A little thing like this, but also it's a double-edged sword. The double-edged
sword would be we're going to have less tax dollars coming in for our EMS, fire, and our infrastructure. So, I understand that. I understand the importance. So that's why I wanted to pull this as an
example and say when we when we have all this work going into getting leans on these properties, why after the this is the property actually was tore down. Is that the property? >> Mhm. >> It was tore down. Why are we going to And I know that they
the property owner actually tore the structure down. But if we went and did all the work, why are we going to just wipe out the the entire lean? Because I thought it was only 50% of the lean anyway that we could actually um wipe off.
>> I thought they said that the lean was paid in full >> that the cost. Well, well, that's why I pulled it to explain it cuz it says 10,000$10,000. Then it says 45, right? So, but they're asking for the 4500 to be
If you explain, Mr. Lorenzo, then we won't have this debate. >> I can explain the best that I can. Um, I didn't put this item on the agenda. I believe was probably the city attorney Christie, but let me let me say something to you. This item come to you
for a lean reduction is is either because the property has come into compliance, >> which is the purpose of the code enforcement is for us to bring property into compliance. We don't want to go, you know, with fines and and and leans, you know, that's not the purpose. That's
our our goal is to bring property into compliance that have violations. >> I totally understand that. I totally get it. But do you understand any part that I just explained? Absolutely. Because it was a little broken up. But do you understand where I'm coming from? So I know you said the attorney. So you
referenced the attorney. So it keep happening. So could we just explain why do we get it up here to go ahead and it was a consent agenda item so we wasn't going to discuss it but it keeps happening this and there something smells up here I don't know what it is do you smell it
>> I almost smell like some kind of gases or something >> I did take a shower today it's not >> No I'm serious no I'm serious actually about to choke me out >> really >> um you don't you don't smell >> I don't smell either I have a pretty strong smell I can't hear but I >> don't sure but Um,
>> we can turn the fans on to help. >> No, nobody else, man. It must be >> must be just >> Okay, let's finish. Let's finish, Mr. >> So, anyway, Ray, I I I see you was referring to the attorney. So, I mean, if that has to happen, maybe you have a better explanation.
>> Sure. So, this was um an extremely blighted piece of property uh that was deemed a imminent public health risk there. it was already incurring some fines and then it had a structural fire. Uh neighbors had reported that children
were using ladders to climb into the structure and so we needed to take immediate action. Um so we did hire a demolition company and they demolished the entire uh structure for $4,500.
On top of that, there were administrative fees of $250. The property owner, who's a institutional investor based out of South Florida, um it was actually difficult to get the reimbursement on
these funds, but we finally did succeed in getting fully reimbursed on the entire demolition charge once the property was completely abated. And you can see the photos there. The demolition crew put down straw on the property.
It it was deemed to be in compliance. All of the code violations that had been cited in the code lean had been fully complied with and at the point of full compliance, the property owner is
entitled to seek a full lean reduction. It is obviously within the discretion of the city commission on whether or not to allow that and I have explained that to the property owner. However, it is in full compliance and I I will tell you
that um I had property owners across the street. This particular street is in the process of being developed. New houses are going up. uh the developer of one of those houses came up and thanked the city for demolishing this structure because he
was unwilling to buy any more lots to put up new construction because this house was such a blight in the neighborhood that it was deterring sales. So, uh I overall it was mission accomplished in terms of getting rid of
the blight in the neighborhood. Okay. So, I get that and this is an investor investment property and it's up to them to keep it up to code compliance. For us to have to get someone to come in and clean it first before they take any
actions. We I think we did what we supposed to have done. Now, personally, I would I would be okay with reducing the the fine. He paid back. He paid back what we charged for demolition. what we were charged for demolition. >> Correct.
>> So, how is he penalized if we reduce the lean to zero balance out? >> I'm just asking a question, Miss Wes. >> Do you want to go ahead? >> This is a question to Miss West. >> Let let Miss West respond and then we'll
go to you. >> That again, I'll I'll reiterate what the planning director said. The the primary objective of code enforcement is to eliminate blight uh to improve our neighborhoods. And that was accomplished where there was a nominal administrative fee of $250, but the the overall purpose
of code enforcement is not to be a revenue generator for the city. The the goal is to eliminate blight. And that was accomplished. >> Yeah. The the overall goal, and I I get it, but I guess I won't win this argument, but it's >> not an argument. >> Get not argument, but to get revenue
back is going to have to be in our department. Some of them going to have to be start being self-sufficient or at least at least bringing in some funds. And I was just saying as a department that goes out and put a lot of work. They put
a lot of work into doing this. I think that we should not just zero out. It should we should not zero out these leans due to the fact of the time, the resources that we put into it. Yes, we got them. They got into compliance, but all of them don't. And a lot of them
that we we we zero out zero balance it turn it'll be up like if it was a structure there it probably be that six one months now it probably will what we did one on 19th street difference it's back in the deplorable conditions it was is it was in before. So something got to
have some teeth in it. This don't have enough teeth in it when we do this. I'm just saying this to our my colleagues up here. Just this is an example. This is a good example. That's how the lot on 19th Street looked when they first did it, but it don't look like that now. It's back to the same condition. So, if a
person could say, "Well, we'll let it grow up again. The city will clean it off. We'll just pay the city back." It's a it's a revolving action until the uh the neighbor who wants to buy the lot to build the lot end up buying it from. That's probably what's going to
happen right here. So they just held the property and got it right for sale. I guarantee you in 30 60 to 90 days that the people who was doing the redevelopment over there probably buy that lot now. So I know it was a push
elsewhere. I don't know who owned the land and I don't know who is next to the developer, but that's what's been happening. That's where the push is coming from. And we know that it has to be somebody pushing for those the neighbors or somebody pushing for these lots to be cleaned up, but not at the
city expenses. We don't get we get $250 back. That don't make sense to me. >> I just wanted to put it because I wanted to say that. >> Attorney West, I was going to say exactly what she said, so I'm going to yell to Commissioner Campbell. So I do
have a question um per se and this is something that I believe that was discussed uh and it may be even before the administration that we have now. I do believe that there were conversations that were from the day that we were no
longer reducing at 100% that we would be willing to consider a 50% reduction. Um, and that's why we also stated, and I'm going back to consent agenda, that these items would not be on consent agenda and
that they would be on regular business so that we can identify them individually. And I do believe we've previously stated or went by what we've stated of only accepting a 50% reduction versus 100%.
Commissioner Borum. >> Yes. I I concur with um other commissioners um statements about the reduction is it's pretty clear in my opinion because it's basically policy.
Our policy what we just implemented we had uh numerous people um Mr. homes and um the previous commission we helped set that to 50% because there's a lot of work and labor went into this whole
thing as it relates to bringing from bright to from black to bright. So, how can we supersede or skirt around a policy that
we set and then it's going to go to the consent agenda? I don't understand that. >> Commissioner, thank you. >> First is policy. >> Oh, okay. >> Okay. We we we set that policy that nothing below 50%.
And we want to go to zero. We're continuously we're starving our comm our community taxpaying communities out. We're starving the people out and we're giving it over to people who have money,
the developers. What is wrong? Help me understand that. >> May I respond? >> You may. >> Thank you, Commissioner. I I'm not certain if the administration we have now are even aware of the policy you
just mentioned about this 50%, but I will make certain because now you've said it, >> it's been in play. It's been in play for some time. Um, then I'm going to make certain that we're following the policy because, >> you know, I
>> say I personally knew, but I will now make certain of it. So perhaps it was just before I got here. >> You said it was >> the 50. You said that >> we've been talking about this for some time since right to blight and we talked about these things every time. We've had
people who came before the commission and there's been things on the agenda since you've been here that's talked about nothing less than 50% because it's the policy. So we all know about the policy. >> We don't know. >> We know about the policy. >> A little follow up on
>> Yeah. I'm just saying we can go back to a lot of the everything that's been lean reduction. >> We can go back to the policy and it's and we've we've discussed it. I will personally go back and make certain that we are aware and following
policy >> right and so that will not get less than 50% because that's policy and we can't violate our own policy. I would I would like to make sure clearly, you know, that um in the future we're going to bring not as a consent
agenda item, a lean reduction, and we're going to place as a regular >> agenda item for for discussion. >> And then the city did all the work. The city even went above and beyond to go take the action to go and get hired the company >> and and and only receive $250.
>> No, they got we got reimbursed for the cost. >> We got we got the money back, you know. It's not that we didn't get all on the city's part. I agree with you and actually, you know, I would like uh this is just my personal um desire. I would
like, you know, this money that come from lean reduction or from leans that we collect, >> right? >> That it goes not to the general fund, but it goes to to a fund that will be administered by code enforcement so we can put that money back in the neighborhood.
what I would like to do and I was planning doing that in the next budget cycle uh to create that that account so that money doesn't go into general fund but it goes to back to code enforcement so we can put back into the community >> self-sufficient department that's
exactly what we're talking about sir >> but that's what we had communicated commissioner >> we we we've said it >> no we we we we we made clear that it would go back because that's how they were able to hire additional code enforcement people because when they went out and did the work that funding
came from being from doing the work out from bright to black from black to bright >> but right now all the leaves that we collect goes general fund >> we need to keep it in the in the fund that is generated >> may I ask did we come to what we're
going to do so we we're saying the same thing over and over >> so at this point it sounds like we're definitely pulling >> yes so we need a motion So, I'll make a motion that we accept a 50% lean reduction.
>> Second. >> Second >> motion and second. All in favor? >> I. Any opposition? >> No. Okay. >> And maybe Miss Wes can help with the ordinance to uh a policy where finance
would actually put those leans and the funds from them create that sort of to go for code enforcement >> only. Thank you. >> It's already >> on to regular business.
>> Go ahead. Aren't we on that item or did we do we need a motion or >> we just did it? >> Oh, did we say table? >> We just voted on. >> We just voted on that. >> No, >> please.
>> No, I know we just >> Mayor, I'd like to ask a question. Please. >> I know. Please. >> So, are we saying we're not going to release the lean on 1315 law? The motion was to accept a 50% reduction. Was it on
this particular item? That's my question. Or was that a general statement? >> That was with reference to that item. >> Thank you. That was my question. >> Thank you. >> Okay. So for for clarification >> clarification on the motion itself,
please read it back and what we >> I understand the motion. What that means is that the the lean is going to remain in effect for the 4750 plus half of what the original code
enforcement lean was 5,000 bringing it right back up to almost $10,000. Um it it just so everyone understands. Okay. >> Yeah. Because right now he's just reimbursing the city. So,
>> he's not paying nothing for a fun $250. >> Let me make Let me make it clear. >> The reduce of a lean to someone who is an investor that does not live in our city. There would be a different conversation
had they been planted here, they're investing here. But ultimately, a lot of times, let's be honest, we have individuals that in that buy property in our city that doesn't live here, probably never been here or doesn't
come. And so again, we are tasked with making sure that code enforcement going out and doing all the work. This is an investor. This is a part of his investment. So I don't feel any kind of way taking a lean back up because if you
are an investor, you know that you have to pay money in order to make money. >> I just I wanted to make sure everyone understood the the math on what was going on. >> Oh, I understood math. It calculates outright >> one time. One time for me. Go ahead, Commissioner David.
>> So I want to get clarification as well. I'm clear on this item and I I do understand, but I believe it was mentioned that it was approved prior obviously to me being on the commission that we would not accept less we would
accept a 50%. So the motion we just made was for this item, but is it still in place that on any le >> because that's what my Okay. I was going to make that request during my p my comment and that's why I stress the fact
of bringing back policy or reviewing policies that have been set up to ensure that we are following because I can distinctly tell you we've sat on here within the last year and a half and had this conversation and like I said this
was prior to you um we've had this conversation numerous of times and we actually had individuals in the room that we apologized to but we stuck to by our policy and it was several people in that room that night that we just had to stick to our policy. So that's how and I
would make the recommendation that we bring that policy back to the commission um just for >> okay and just me just so you know I didn't finish my question but thank you for that. >> The what I was going to say is I want to make sure staff understands and get is
getting clear direction. Um if they're going to bring that policy back and it's 50% it's already in place that's fine. The reason I asked it because you just made the statement about an investor versus someone who's in this community. Let Let me >> Let her finish, please. Let me finish. I
just want to make sure that staff understands that we're asking for them to bring back that policy where it's in place for 50%. It's 50% regardless going forward >> whether you're you live here or not. >> I got it. >> Yeah. It's just that your comment made it sound like there was different
standards for >> that's all I'm just trying to get clarification for myself as well. >> Thank you. >> Um okay. >> Any further discussion on this item? >> We will move on to team building regular businesses specifically team building.
Madame Mayor, commissioners um from the last from the last um commission meeting um human resource was tasked with um obtaining some venues as well as facilitators. Um you all were provided with the quotes that we um have received
back as well as a copy of the scope of work that was sent out to those individuals. Um, so I did send out, so what we have here is the three quotes. Um, one from Dynasty, one from Acrioff, I can hardly say that. And
Community Hands of Hope um were the three vendors that um submitted proposals that we reached out to. Two of them were from previous, one was a new one. Um, so the facil those were the facilitators, the venues. Um I I reached
out to the Ravine Gardens, Crystal Cove, um as the two. I did try to get a bowling um alley and and and and Stasia Bowling Alley in Sagugustine as well as Dave and Busters in Gainesville, but those um individuals did not have
meeting rooms that would accommodate the facilitation. So I was unable to get an activity in with a room to do the facilitating. So, with Ravine Gardens and I just got they just got back with me today um actually um a little bit before coming to this meeting that their
availability on the dates that I was suggesting they don't have it. So, they're filled um Crystal Cove um they do have the availabilities and another place that I could recommend that I would like to look into and I didn't have time before this meeting once I got
the information from the ravine is the senior center on WTover Drive. It's a meeting room big enough to facilitate and do the activities um to have an activity as well as the facilitation um of the team building um which would be I
had two vendors um what my um thought pattern was I'm paying with a twist that would allow Yes, sir. >> Dr. I was you can talk I was just waiting until let the mayor know that I have a statement. >> That's fine. You keep going please. >> Okay.
Okay. So, um, painting with the twist and I had two vendors. One was, um, called Paint the Town, um, which, um, the all of the amounts I sent that out as well, um, was a cost of $32 per person to, and I was thinking more of
just seeing if how everybody paints um, to collaborately come together, if they were painting a picture of the river or some something here in the town. So that would be an activity since I couldn't get a facility that had like Top Golf like we had. We were able to play golf
and then have the facilitation. So those were things that um I came up with um for your consideration as I was asked to bring back. Um so tonight we're just trying to figure out the dates that I did. Um I was trying to keep it in March. Um so s at the late time March
the 28th um April 18th and the 25th because I think you all wanted a Saturday unless it's the will of the commission for another date. So I tried to keep it on Saturdays were available dates that um I was able to come up with. >> Thank you Commissioner Campbell. First
>> with regards to the facilities have you contacted community affairs? >> No. No sir. >> We are looking host here in Palaka at another venue that cost and we have a
venue that's bigger than the venues that you've established or that you've contacted. It's a cost-saving mechanism and we have a big enough facility. We have Jenkins. There's a our
we have Jenkins. We have a community uh the gym or we have the actual recreation room that is bigger than half the places that you stayed. >> Yes, sir. >> Thank you, Commissioner Davis.
>> Yes, ma'am. I'm going to just give my feedback. U Miss Jones already knows my feedback. When I think of a team building exercise for a group of people, it is typically planned based on the requirements we've
given. We may have to look at some options of dates because it's for more than the five of us if is my understanding. Is this not for >> the team leaders? >> The team leaders of the city as well meaning Okay. And so what I'm personally
looking for is coming back and saying we will be having team building with this vendor meeting these requirements from 8 to 4 or 9 to 3 and here are dates date options that work for the majority of people who need to
be there. What I'm not sure about is why we need to come up with the what, who, how, where. and that's just it just doesn't seem efficient or effective to me. So that's my comment. So I I will never have any input on where we have
it, but I do agree with Commissioner Campbell. If it's local, we need to use our own facilities. Um but in terms of whether we paint or whether we make a boat, I'm not sure that that's what we need to be deciding.
>> Do you have some? Yes, I I agree with U Commissioner Campbell and I agree with Commissioner Davis. Um again, we if we're going to do some things we got for like a golf course and we we can actually go out and play a half of a,
you know, half a game, nine holes as opposed to 18 and still accomplish the same thing. I think they got enough space out there for us to be meeting in in in in that space. And so again, we do have facilities that we we could utilize and if we're going to pay any money out
and give it to the golf course that I think they need a little few funds. >> I can agree with all that. My other my thought too and and this may not be something people this commission is likely to change within the year and I'm wondering if this really is a good time
with everything else we have scheduled. Don't smile so broadly commission but that there are some people that may not be sitting up here and uh we're doing team building for a team that's not going to is going to change I think significantly
um after the first of the year. So I I guess I'm questioning whether we should be doing spending the money and doing this now or should we wait. >> Mayor, I actually agree with you and how shocking. uh if you take in consideration even the last time we did
it, we did it with an interimm city manager versus a uh permanent city manager and I don't think it was as effective as it could have been and given that this board is could change um
again I think that was a very valid point mayor and I would recommend that we don't proceed with it if it involves the commission But if the team building exercise would benefit our staff, go ahead with it.
>> Okay. >> I got it. Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Vacation policy, Miss Jones. >> So the vacation policy just to try to keep in um line to make sure that you all um we continue moving the policies
and updated. There's only a small a couple of things on the vacation policy that is before you with the upgrade into the ADP system. Our vacation time is now calculated bi-weekly with every pay. So once an employee has worked their two weeks, they get their whatever they
allocated time. So they're able to you utilize that instead of waiting to the end of the month. So that language was changed. And then the other word just to make consistent on item H was just changed to add hours per week so that it would be consistent in the language that was um reviewed there. Those were the
only changes that were needed to update this policy. Thank you. Anybody have any questions or want additional information? No. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Is there any direction we want to provide or
>> No, I mean this is not this just um we don't have this is not an action item, is it? >> It's just the vacation policy. >> It's just a vacation policy. I just want to make sure. >> But if anybody want me to That's fine. Go ahead, Commissioner. Question. This is a general question. So, we're getting
like the vacation policy. I think we had a grievance policy last month. Um, may I understand how is the vacation policy chosen? How was the grievance policy chosen? Like,
are you going through the whole handbook? Are we >> Does it I'm not sure because things are coming randomly. We have so there was a list created um years ago that listed items that needed to be updated. Some of them are taking more time to get more
accurate information into them. >> So in order to just keep them moving, the ones that take very minimal, some of them take longer and we've had some that I brought here that were much more detailed than this one. So just to make sure I had one on here at the direction
of the city manager say keep them coming. Um I wanted to uh bring one um for you all. Yes. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Any any further questions? Go ahead, Commissioner. >> Right. And and I and I think what um Commissioner Davis is looking for
something like maybe what we have um you know 3 6 9 months or year out policies that we'll be considering or looking at to address or whatever you know from shortterm to long-term. things that may
be considered. I think that would be helpful. >> Anybody else? Thank you. On to public hearings. A second reading, adopt ordinance 202618, an ordinance of the city of Paka, Florida, amending the public permissible
code to establish regulations for public murals. Um, we have several public comment cards. Before we go on to that, I think I'm going to ask for a bit of clarification. I know today in reading people's
concerns that the biggest, well, not the biggest, but one of the major concerns was whether this will impact the ability to have painted windows for holidays or specific events. And those are not considered permanent. Those are short-term. So those are not issues in
this ordinance that will require um a permit or any other process. Maybe you could explain more clearly. Miss >> um the under section two of the definitions this pertains only to
permanent media and under section three applicability and scope. It pertains to only new murals. There is no retroactive application of this ordinance. So all the murals that currently exist are
grandfathered in and it pertains only to exterior walls. So >> and permanent permanent murals, not something for an event or a holiday. So as far as the windows being painted by Mr. Kent and and whoever else may do
that. This does not fall under that or have any other >> The gentleman that painted the windows here. >> Yeah, he is. And he's got a public comment card. So, let we're going to call him up in a minute. Um, thank you. With that, we'll go to public comment. Gregory Lord,
>> do we um I think we have to accept. >> Okay. Well, one second. Mr. Lord, you can come up to the motion. >> Okay, we have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Second. Got a motion in a second. M >> full discussion. >> I'm sorry. Mo >> with this motion in second.
>> I heard it. Yes. Come on. Mr. Law, please give us your your name and city or town of residents. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Greg Lord. I live in Sonteo, but I have a business here in Palaca. You answered everything that I want to talk about. So, thank you very much. >> Thank you, Mr. Huggin. Here he is. The
the man that paints the windows. come up name and city or town of residence. >> Uh I am Kent Huggin. I live in Palaka, Florida at 105 Second Avenue, number 302.
Uh Madame Mayor and Commissioner, it's my honor to address you. I'm I am the guy that's painting all those windows downtown. Thank you. >> And uh most of them I donate. I don't quote prices for them. And I only work
for gratuitity. Um, my medium is water-based. I clean the windows before I paint them. I paint them and then I come take them down and I clean the windows and leave them cleaner than I found them. Uh, the paintings that are on that street that
are permanent are are not my paintings. And um, I spend my time. I'm retired uh, disabled American veteran and I do this as a hobby. It keeps my hands and my mind busy. I'm retired in this town. I love this place, by the way. We're all
blessed to live here. >> Thank you. >> And um so you did answer all the questions uh that I have. Uh I'm gracious that this town allows me to paint on any of these buildings. I'm I'm just so thankful. So, uh, I believe in
the stewardship of the town and I just try to spend my time, uh, balancing some misspent youth, fixing some karma, and, uh, paying my way by being a decent citizen. And, uh, and that's something I'll tell you all while I'm here, I will be an honorable citizen in this city.
So, I appreciate, uh, your patience and your understanding and the clarity on this subject, and I look forward to painting a lot more windows in this town. >> Thank you. And thank you for everything you've done for us. Shelley Shanker. >> Good evening. I'm Shelley Shanker and I
live in East Pilaca and I um run the arts alliance that is at the Lur Art Center. So, there was a letter to the editor this week that stirred up a lot of the creative community like a bees nest because I think some things were
misunderstood and I I hope they were misunderstood. um you have before you on this agenda um a three-page ordinance about murals and the mural committee and I understand that it's the intention of
the commission to try to give some parameters so that we know where we're going but I want to say that I see that you recognize the importance of murals and paintings in that it is a direct barometer of a vibrancy of a community.
Um, but when we try to standardize or have approval systems like an HOA, I left South Florida to get away from HOAs. And I don't want our city to become one where somebody on a committee
gets to decide what isn't is or isn't appropriate because my my taste in art is very different from most people in this room. If I buy a property, I may want I may have have a business idea that relies on some outlandish piece
that's going to grab somebody's attention and show what's going on in that business. It also I have seen this happen in our town that some of our beautiful historic murals which I love and I love that committee and what they have done for the murals in this in this
town. But there are people who really struggle with the fact that they bought a piece of property that has one and now they're required to upkeep it. And there and that that is in this new ordinance that you are if you're trying to get a mural put on your building, you're
signing up for the long haul. And that's going to change how you can and cannot sell your property in the future. Because if you've put a beautiful mural on your property and then you sell it, what if I come in with that new thing that I want to get rid of it? I have to
jump through hoops because of your ta taste in art or your sense of what was right or wrong. I really think that I'm I'm not uh I I hope you don't pass this ordinance the way it's written. I think that there's a lot of problems in it. I hope that it is incorrect that it reply
applies to homes as well, which was stated in that letter to the editor that we were going to start monitoring everything in somebody's yard. And I thought, no, I don't think that's it. I will say that I'm really proud of the work you did last time on creating that committee that's for public art and that
it needs to be clear that also is not about the art you decide to put in your yard. That's about how we spend public dollars. And that process, whoever signs up for those committees, is signing up for a really big job because public art is no joke. It's got a lot of hoops to jump through and it's going to take a
lot of work. So, I'm glad you put that that place together. Thank you. >> Thank you. Well, we'll respond at the end. Well, please no applause. Um Pam Garris, Pam, >> Pam Garris, uh Palaca, Florida. Uh,
commissioners and mayor, I bring to your attention the Florida Senate Statute 180 passed in 2025, which prohibits local governments, that is counties and cities, from enacting regulations that are quote more restrictive or burdensome, unquote, on
developers and property owners. The new proposed mural ordinance is scheduled for the second reading, and your vote for approval this evening. This ordinance defies the authority of Florida statute 180 is stated. Example, the historic preservation board of the city of Palaca was advised several times
in the last year and as recent as last week's meeting that they could not enact new me new um restrictions in ordinances that were not established before statute 180 was passed. The resolution that was passed
on February 26, 2026 forming a six member public arts advisory committee is a moot point. There will be no restrictions for them to enforce. The mural ordinance for the committee to rule on cannot exist according to Florida Statute 180 that was passed into
law in 2025. The mural ordinance states that it applies to all new murals proposed on exterior walls of both public and private buildings within Palaca. The ordinance dictates that the planning department issue a mural permit but is not divulged that first you have to go
through the public arts advisory committee. This committee will review and advise on proposals for sculptures, monuments, memorials, installations, art, artist design, functional elements, temporary exhibits, and other public and private art projects. This would also
include art on private property. Maybe I'm wrong stating that. I'm not sure. Is there any clarification on that such as storefront sidewalk art shows those at the Tilman house and the Lurmer? One example of the restrictions of the city ordinance is that property owners
must maintain the mural indefinitely and violations shall be enforced through civil code enforcement procedures which include fines possible ruling to restore and repaint a mule according to the public arts advisory committee's rulings. The public arts advisory committee has no requirements for legal
residency in Palaca or Putnham County. This means out of city and county residents not elected by the voters of the city could dictate that city residents what city residents and businesses could legally put on their property, storefront or building. Never before in Palaca city government has a
city government committee been formed that can be reappointed with no term limits. Again, this public art ordinance and public arts advisory committee cannot exist to enforce restrictions that did not exist prior to the passage of Florida statute 180 passed in 2025.
I implore the city commission to not pass this proposed mural ordinance upon its second reading tonight. It defies Florida law statute 180. Thank you for your service to the citizens and business owners of our beloved city.
Miss Duke don't no applause please. Miss Duke Vicky Duke Palaka Florida. Um I'm concerned about this mural um restrictions too. I didn't find something that actually gave me a lot of details other than the words that are
listed here. But I know that at the la at the first reading we talked about um one of the um Miss Kitchens um mentioned it being applying to only new murals that that wasn't written in the policy
and um our concern about our wonderful mural committee that has spent all these years making sure that the um murals that went up were accurate and were appropate. it or at least under general
guidelines and um and then the maintenance on it and their budget to help maintain those. And as Miss Kitchens mentioned at the last meeting with the um um the the plans that they already had in place and the money they
already had in place to restore the murals that were here. And it I was concerned and I still am concerned about the way this reads as to does that do away um this mural committee won't exist anymore because they're going to have to
be under these guidelines. And as far as we have seen murals painted over when we got our Cricut office and we lost the mug race um boats on that wall and was painted over. Um, it concerns me. This
just concerns me and I don't think there was enough detail. I didn't get enough detail on it with the first reading as to how that was going to apply to um the committee that has existed and has worked so hard to keep the city's murals
um taken care of and um that's my concerns with this new one. >> Thank you, Miss Einman. Rosie, >> Robbie, nice to see you again. >> Nice to see you. >> Um, my name is Rosina Eisenman. I live
in San Monteo, but I have an art shop downtown on St. John's Avenue. Um, thank you for clarifying the uh window art because even though my art is not painting windows, I do display my art in
my windows. And it did kind of concern me as to whether or not we would be able to continue to have this quaint, adorable, artsy town that we have. We have our very own little Mayberry right here. And with Kent doing all of the
windows the way he has been, I sit in my shop and I watch families go by. I watch tourists come by. Um, some come into the shop. A lot of them talk about, "Oh my gosh, did you see what was over on this window?" And, "Oh my gosh, did you see
this? Was so cool." And I looked at I didn't see that. And I love the fact that they're coming downtown. And I love the fact that these same people that are coming downtown, they get hungry. So where are they going to go? To the mom and pop restaurants.
They get thirsty. They're going to go to our mom and pop restaurants. They see, oh my gosh, there's a little antique shop around the corner. I didn't know that was there. Look at this. Look at that. They're going to go to Miss D's Quilts. They're going to come in my shop. This is an encouragement to
continue bringing outsiders and locals into our town. We have a beautiful downtown and I'm watching it become more and more beautiful every day and I love the fact that it is geared towards families and I
love the fact that we are bringing more art to our town. Thank you so much for allowing the windows to continue to be painted and for continuing to make this a fun place to work and live. >> Thank you. Um, to be clear, the mural committee,
because I was on it for many years, too, has always had to for each mural get a permit from the planning board for a sign. It was treated as a sign, which it is not. It's public art. So, they have always had to go through a process to
put up a mural. Secondly, it says that the building owner or their design in the case of the mural committee, they have always been responsible for prepping getting the mural painted and then maintenance that would come to the designate category. So that would still
continue if it was a mural that they were sponsoring. Essentially a m majority of the murals that the mural committee has had done the funding the majority of the funding there were some donations but the majority has come from the CRA so it's coming from tax dollars
so that's another factor to consider in terms of boundaries right now you a mural a property owner could put anything on their exterior wall there is no restrictions so it could be something that you would feel uncomfortable with but right now there are no rules
essentially. Um I think if Miss West has any further clarification, those were some of my concerns. >> You did quite well. >> Okay, go ahead. >> Yeah. No, I was just saying thank you for the clarity that you gave. >> Thank you. >> Um so I think we need some parameters.
Whether this is the end all be all I'm not sure if there's uh again I know people were primarily at least I got the sense concerned about painting on the windows but there are people who are concerned about the benefit how the mural committee itself will be impacted other people should able also be able to
put forth some concepts for public art including murals and have that opportunity as well >> go ahead commission >> you know as I'm listening to the comments and I'm looking at the ordinance Um, this ordinance is
specifically for public murals. Correct. >> We just established a public art committee. And so I think what I'm leaning towards now is this is very specific to a type of art, a type of public art. So if we had someone who put
a sculpture up in the in front of their business would in in the city or even in the CRA districts they this would not apply because this is specific for murals. Would it not
benefit the city to have a >> overall public art >> over all public art um ordinance or something? So that that's just something I'm just sitting here thinking, you know, I was really
wondering why the the mural committee was really upsetting and when I went back and really read this after, you know, our initial vote, I read it the first time and I'm thinking, oh yeah, this is just for murals. But when I think of public art, I think of more than that. In addition,
um I know in here it mentioned that some of the murals may um be submitted for historic designation or something of that fact, which could then be that those specific murals could fall into a
category versus just any other mural that someone agreed to put on their store. um hearing the comment made about the impact to potential um buyers of buildings if that's not something they wanted. But just something I'm thinking about. In
addition, I know I'm introducing something different, but I live ac uh where I live where the old ham hammer call, >> you know, there's a mural on the side of that building, but that building was now changed to residential >> and it's an amazing mural. I hope they
never get rid of it, but that's their prerogative, right? because that's something that would fall outside of this because now that's someone's private property and a private home. So, just putting out some things for thought. >> And that mural was sponsored and paid for by the South Historic Neighborhood Association. I happen to be president of
it at that time and um we did maintain it. The current owners are committed to keeping it, but that doesn't say anything about future owners. So, yes, it could be painted over >> and their personal commitment could change. It's not a law. So I I just want to
>> and the mural, the mug race mural got painted over because Cricket put the sign on and they were not willing to move it and it was their building. Well, it wasn't the leasing it. Um but they were not willing to move it. So we said if you can't move it, we're going to paint it over because you're really obscuring the the appearance of the
mural and that's how that mural went away and ended up on another building as well. It's a constant struggle each time a building sold though. That's been a struggle the mal committee has been dealing with in terms of getting the property owner to consider keeping it and also some responsibility for the
ownership. But the mural committee has taken responsibility. Also to clarify the public art advisory committee that we did approve by resolution last week. There are specific terms within that. Um I think Miss Garris wrote it up. There are terms in that and other city boards
do have excuse me or can have non-residents on their boards as this is not the only one. So one other thing may I don't believe I saw here a mention of do I see
something in this uh ordinance about the public art committee >> that's on arrest separate that was the resolution. No, no, no, no, no. My question is, did I see anything in this ordinance related to the Yes. And can you remind me where it is? Section five.
>> Yes. Um, the city may establish optional guidelines for a public art advisory committee, which you did do last time by resolution to pres to provide design advice and community input on murals. There's nothing mandatory about the language.
>> Correct. that that's the point I wanted to bring out that um because I know some of the comments I've been getting in the community have mixed the two you know that resolution is ordinance and they're separate and distinct
>> but I just hear seeing this that this committee may provide advice >> whatever um yeah and input mandatory >> but it's not mandatory and then I think my other question was when this goes to be submitted to
planning um they get the details what I know with our experience when things go to planning there's and I'm going to use this and I don't mean to minimize the work there's a checklist of things that it has to legally meet and if it meets
these legal obligations uh or legal requirements then it really can you know should move forward. So my question is too is in this ordinance when it says that these
items get submitted to the planning department to get the permit it has to have the rendering you know location all of that information um proof of property owner review and approval is where I
have a question and that is because that's not as black and white is it consistent with historic an architectural context. Who will make those decisions? Is that the planning department? Conform with safety and structural integrity standards. Okay. Um
you know the panels. Um I know it says coordinate. We encourage coordination with the mural committee. Um compliance with content neutrality consistent with the first amendment president. Um and content can't be regulated. So,
I'm going to use the word squishy cuz those are a little more squishy. And my question then to to bring this all home is is that the going to be the um um the
planning department will determine that. That's the question. >> Yes. Um and the planning department the planning director or the planning director's design will review the application for that. Um I I agree that
a lot of this is squishy. Almost everything under the first amendment is squishy. However, I I would note that it's the application requirements that I think are probably going to provide the most protection for the city.
specifically things like the maintenance manual and um the proof of property owner consent. Some of the things that have come into play here is um the the ongoing maintenance of the murals and
also the selling as you mentioned of buildings when there's a mural on it. Uh if you have a plan in place on the change of ownership that will help with everyone's understanding. >> Okay. So, for the record, I do want to just
say that hearing the comments and reviewing this and some of the questions I raised tonight is giving me pause now. Um, I know we had the first passing of this, but I am concerned um of some things that I had not encountered, but I just want to put that out there. Thank
you. >> Anybody else have any thoughts? >> No, just a pause thought. a pause thought >> caution caution >> based on what I've heard new information and uh among other things and we have to
be very careful the things that we uh approve as ordinances in in our city that we don't do anything to become a detriment to others. >> Okay. And would that Go ahead. I'm a
little I understand, but what's the hesitancy? Like I get what you're saying, but like what can you give us more specifics as to well, hey, what do we need to pump our brakes on versus is it something that staff needs
to bring back to us? Is it the rewarding? Is it the like I understand that you want to pump your brakes, but can you give a little bit >> more detail as to why? Yes. So I will tell you I am in favor of some type of
ordinance for as it mentions here a regulatory framework right and to have consistency with maintenance expectations. What I am concerned about is that with the application packet that's
pretty straightforward, but the review and approval is required to make sure there's these items that I think are subjective. That's now what my concern is. The other
thing is um I'm all for history. I mean I was born and raised in this sit town but art is subjective and I'm concerned that we're painting
ourselves and yes pun intended into a box. I think when I look at some of the things that need to be um shown for approval, you know, the consistency with historic and architectural context and
and that that is coming through the planning department. I I'm not that's what I'm not comfortable with specifically if I hope that answers your question. >> Yeah. And I appreciate that. I wanted to have that perspective. Yeah. >> Um so thank you. That's why
>> okay times we agree you know but I want to be able to dive deeper into you know take me to another level on my >> so in summary we still see a need for something we might want to >> yes
>> modify this or have some suggested changes made I I agree on that is subjective and I think we are limiting ourselves sometimes and that that has been the focus historically of the m of the mural committee to just depict historic
um events andor individuals of the city and the county and and natural resources. Maybe there is a broader area to go to. Go ahead. hearing the consensus. Um >> there is a motion on the floor
>> that we need to adhere to or close and move forward with. I had one comment though before we close. >> Um and and when we talk about subjective art, I mean that that takes me back to
um our code enforcement and um what we're trying to do with some of the things as it relates to um things that's violated a number of things over the years that we cannot do anything with. We've took it taken it to the magistrate and we can't do anything
more with it. And so that property uh it it would be far from anything of art, but you cannot um you cannot challenge what um someone
um deems to be art. And so basically again so when we start put parameters around things among other things we need to just be careful that like like Commissioner um Davis said don't put us don't don't don't paint yourself into a
box. So that's all I have. >> So as far as the motion >> question >> question um all in favor? >> Nay. Oh, no. I'm I'm waiting. I'll wait
for my turn. >> Thank you. >> All opposed. >> Okay. >> So, >> as far as direction, >> yes, >> I would like for us to take in consideration, and I know you all don't
like this word, but a work plan that would allow us to have a community buy in. >> Um, so that we can make sure that as we proceed that we don't put out a sense of that we aren't um
>> taking their views into consideration. >> Absolutely. So I would take this into consideration for a workshop. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you everyone and thank you all for your comments. Social media standard. >> First reading. Ordinance 202619,
an ordinance of the city of Palaka, Florida, revising the code of ordinances of the city of Palaca, Florida by providing for an update to the benefits payable to firefight of pension retirees. >> Mayor, I have Anna Paris. Parish. >> Okay. Parish.
>> Um, if you have any questions, she's available for >> Okay. Do we have a motion? >> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> Your motion is second. Does anybody have any questions of Miss Parish? Excuse me. Okay. Is there anybody here for public comment on this item?
Seeing no close public comment. All in favor? >> I. Any opposition? Thank you. First reading ordinance 202622 an ordinance of the city of Palaca Floring providing for a referendum election for submission to the electors of the city of Palaca of proposed amendments for the city charter
pursuant to section 166.031 charter amendments providing for motion to approve >> second. >> Motion is second. Is there anybody here for public comment on this? Seeing none we'll close public comment. All in favor? I. Any opposition? Thank you. on
to commissioner comments. Commissioner Campbell. >> Um I actually have three quick things that I would want to bring forth. Um most organizations or uh corporations annually have a day that's dedicated
solely to employees and their families. I would like for us to take in consideration possibly hosting a city of palaca day where we actually bring someone in to plan the event so that it does not fall on our staff but provide a
lot of times our staff gives so much of their times and their families is affected in a way because they're giving to so many others. And this will be a day that we promote a sense of family, a sense of community,
and a sense of thanking our employees um of the city of Pala. So that would be something that I would love for us to take in consideration having that day. Um also I want to mention that our chaplain uh
>> Pastor Pastor Malberry has taken on an incentive to save our sons in the city of Palaca. And um this upcoming meeting which on the 23rd will be our third meeting. But we've had a strong support. Um some of the commissioners were
present. We've had um individuals from DJJ. We've had blacka police department. We've had educators. We've had pastors all who came in in hopes of saving our son. So our next upcoming meeting is on the 23rd at 6:30 at the Jenkins
Recreation Center. And this meeting is open to all male figures. Um we speak to our sons, but again all male figures are welcome to attend uh this event. Well, not an event, this meeting that we plan
and strategize on ways that we could save the young men in our community. Um so if you are available for that, please do so. Several months ago, um I made the request that we have a lot of city
employees who help save the city money by taking on a lot of uh repairs. Um and I ask that we bring back an incentive program that would incentivize those who
put forth an effort to one save the city money. um to see how we can put back into their pockets and I would like an update with regards to where we are. >> Okay. >> Thank you, Commissioner Jones. >> I don't have anything to add. >> Okay. Commissioner Bar. >> Yeah, I I concur with um Commissioner
Campbell about the incentive um for our our staff. I um pushed that out some time back as well in terms of um looking out for those who look out for the city on a number of different things over the past several years. So, I concur with
Commissioner Campbell on that. Um, I do support um the um the effort as it relates to saving our young um youth and young young males. Uh I haven't had an opportunity yet to get uh get there
based on my um previous um schedules, but I do support that whole heart wholeheartedly. Uh moving on to the last thing and uh this will be our ninth year uh uh in combination with um
um taking our youth uh to um the Orlando Magic is the ninth year sixth year for the I mean the um sixth year for the Orlando Magic and the three years we took them um to um the Jaguars game. But up to 30 students, up to 30
deserving students um with the um Palaca High School basketball team will be um selected by the coaches of the staff. I mean the staff the the coaches of um Pala High to um for those students who are meeting their grades
uh and other um things associated with being um uh upstanding student. So that'll be on March 26. We're going to take a 30 students down sponsored by Pacer Pacarero and Associates in the city of Palka. Um I will provide u a
portion of funds to help give each um student a um uh $20 per student um for concessions as well as we're going to work with them um from a mentorship standpoint as well as challenge them and
help them continue to understand what we rolled out a couple years ago. challenging those uh individuals to know who their leaderships are leadership are uh in their community. A lot of times they can know their president, they can know the governor, but a lot of times
they don't know the people who touch their lives every day. So we had some challenges last year with that and they were able to come up with a few answers. Some of them a little bit off but they had earned a few extra dollars as it relates to that. So that's what we have
coming up. Thank you. Commissioner, >> Commissioner Davis, >> commissioners, if you want to you want to be a part of that, you're certainly welcome to to come and be a part of it. Um, March 26. >> Commissioner Davis,
>> I don't have any comments, ma'am. >> Thank you. Just quickly, we did get an email from Mr. Cartwright saying in case you were going to attend, the St. Patrick's Day parade has been cancelled. >> So, just to let know. Other than that, I have no further comments either. So, can we have a motion to You've
>> Thank you.