We're going to reach read each students. >> We don't have mics. >> Oh, that's right. We don't have mics. Forget about the mic. We're going to read each student's name off in the school they attend and ask the student to come up. Um, I'll shake their hand and Commissioner Davis will pass them
the certificate and Commissioner Campbell will shake their hand as well and we will take photos afterwards. Um, first with educators and then with family. So, we'll begin and I hope I pronounce this correctly. Degen
Scotland, Putinham Academy of Arts and Sciences. Tell me how to pronounce your name correctly if you're here. Mr. Scotland, >> I guess. Um, student of the month, Kylie
Driggs, Panio Baptist Academy. Kylie >> student of the month. Mia Allen Mosley Elementary student of the month. Ioon Fame Kelly Smith Elementary. Congratulations. I mispronounce your name.
>> Marvin King III, James A. ELEMENTARY. >> Kiier Fletcher, Children's Reading Center, Charter School. Laney Tilton, Browning PS Elementary. Tyrell Key, Putinham Classical Academy. Trayvon Watts, Melon Learning Center,
PreK. He's looking. >> Yeah, we'll give them back, too. >> Kayen Rogers, Melon Learning Center. Got it.
>> Gracie Selfme Melon Learning Center. Um, John D and Hampton Melon Learning Center K through 12. CONGRATULATIONS. >> CONGRATULATIONS. >> Quite a handshake. >> Okay. Um, we're going to take a group
photo with teachers, educators, >> what? We missed somebody. >> What's your name? >> Prince. >> Mr. Scotland. >> There you go. THAT'S CONGRATULATORS organize everybody.
Army doesn't Take one more. Take one more. Take one more time. >> Your picture. Just the two of you too. Okay. >> So, when we Stay here.
something. You know what? family. Go back. >> Hey guys, too. Come in. congratulations. Perfect.
>> There we go. I think too on the camera. Okay, you can pictures. >> Congratulations. I don't want you Sir, sir,
don't Somebody say the latest one. Mia's family. She's asking me >> to represent you. You want me to take a
>> picture? It's okay. Congratulations >> you know what we'll just let him certificate otherwise >> he can just certificate You got your Snapchat going on too. >> You got Snapchat.
>> No, it should be photo like the photo. Oh no. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Special. I just picture Thank you. >> Iologize You got to Oh, look.
>> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Last picture. >> Yes. picture. Thank you. Oh, I got to get that before you can Yeah.
No, no, no. >> That's right. God bless you. >> Congratulations. I don't even know if it's my fault that I don't read emails. >> You did tell me.
>> But I did it. >> So what now? >> I said you did tell me and I even know I could go home. >> Oh. Oh, say something. Do I? >> No. >> All right. Thank you so much.
>> Well, it's not. >> No, it's nice to be here. It's the first time I've ever met Commission meeting October 12th 2026 at 6 p.m. I'm calling this meeting to order beginning with pledge of allegiance led by commission.
Please stand if you pray. Father, again, thank you for allowing us to come together. We thank you for your goodness all day long. We thank you for how kind you've been towards us. We pray God that you will bless us continuously. We are blessed
because of you and we recognize and we acknowledge and we say thank you. Look on us now God. Bless this meeting tonight. Let the wisdom of you be upon our heads, God, that we might uh do the things that will further cause for the
city to move in the proper directions. We thank you again for each constituent. We pray the bless upon them in Jesus name. Amen. >> Amen. Join me to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it
stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Commissioner Bor >> present. Present is >> mic's not working so loudly.
>> Present. >> Will Jones >> Commissioner Campbell >> Commissioner Davis >> present. present. >> Has everybody had the opportunity to read the minutes? January 22nd, 2026.
>> Motion to approve. Second. >> The motion is second. All in favor? >> I. Any opposition? >> Thank you. On to public recognition presentations. I'm going to go down. Well, I don't think it makes a difference, but we'll
go down there and read the proclamation. Whereas African-American history month affords special opportunity to become more knowledgeable about African-American heritage and to honor the many African-American leaders who have contributed to the progress of our nation. And whereas such knowledge can
strengthen the insight of all citizens regarding the issues of human rights, the great strides that have been made in the crusade to eliminate the barriers of equality for minority groups and the continuing struggle against discrimination and poverty. Whereas the story of African-Americans is a story of
resilience and perseverance. And whereas it traces a people who refused to accept the circumstances under which they arrived on these shores. and it chronicles the generations who fought for an America that truly reflects the ideals enshrined in our founding documents. And whereas it is a narrative
of African-American slaves who shepherded the others among the path to freedom of preachers who spoke out against the rules of Jim Crow, of young African-Americans who sat in at lunch counters, of ordinary men and women who took extraordinary risks to change our nation for the better. of African-American women who are
courageous visionaries and led the fight to end slavery, of tenacious activists who fought to expand basic civil rights to all Americans, of literary giants who gave force to their communities, and of artists whose homminies and brushstrokes captured hardship and aspirations. And
whereas the achievements of African-Americans are not limited to those recorded told in our history books as their impact is felt in communities where they are quiet heroes who care for their families in boardrooms where they are leaders of industry and laboratories where discovering new technologies and
in classrooms where they are preparing the next generation for the world they will inherit. Now therefore, I Robera Korea, mayor of the city of Palaka Flower, together with the members of the Palaca City Commission, do hereby endorse the month of February 2026 as African-American history month in the
city of Palaska and urge all citizens to join together in making this period of rededication, the principles of justice and equality for all people and to pay tribute to the contributions of past generations and reaffirm our commitment to keeping the American dream alive for the next generation.
Is there anybody here to accept? >> You all will please come up. >> Do we have a motion to approve? >> Second. >> Motion is second. All in favor? >> I. Any opposition? Thank you. >> Here we go. Miss Margaret, would you like to say a few words before we take
photos? Okay. Good evening, Mayor Korea, members of the city commission, and fellow community members. I am honored to accept this proclamation for Black History Month on behalf of New
Town Country Arts Center. Uh this month marks the 100 year of Black History Month, a century of honoring black brilliance, resistance, and the generations of organizing that have
carried us to this month. Black History Month exists because history was once written entire chapters missing and because the mainstream narrative too often forgets that it was black people who help build this nation
the nation's wealth defends freedom advances sciences cultivates this land and shapes it culture. It is not about separation. It is about restoration, recognition, and truth. When we honor
the resilience, contributions, and leaderships of the people of African descent, we strengthen our shared future. With that said, I thank you for this recognition, the committee members, for your efforts,
and thank you again for this honor. Somebody else. >> Thank you. accepting new town. >> That's the same thing. It's on the same line. Just want to make sure Miss Jones City. >> Sorry.
Everybody, good evening, Madame Mayor, commissioners. So, tonight we want to This not working. Okay. >> Right. um just recognize um four new hires that we have that have actually been through the probationary period of
90 days or more. So, we want to recognize them. I'm a police officer, Mr. Paul Adams. >> I know, but if I click it off, it's going to happen. So, Sorry. A water plant operator, Miss Shannon
Alford. >> Okay. Recreation technician is Liliana Rodriguez. >> I do. I don't know why. And then I'm the last one. >> It's just telling me I have to sign. >> Police officer >> Johannes
commissioners. Um I would like to after recognizing new hires. Uh there is an individual that receives such outstanding um comments from the community and we just wanted to
recognize that so just so many different comments that came in. We also have others that we're starting to get a lot of very good comments for our employees and the work they're doing. So, go ahead, Mr. Ch.
>> Uh, Ed Chandler, uh, sanitation superintendent. Uh, Miss Carter informed us that she wanted us to recognize Mr. Anthony Napier for all the fine work he's been doing uh, on the job and around, you know, all the special events we're having during the city on the
weekends and everything. And I would like to say that, you know, he does go above and beyond, you know, doing things and and that's what we want, you know, to enhance things here in the city of Palaca. And I would like for him to come UP UM, I really don't know what to say, but
um, you know, we all work together. We all, you know, >> me and I mean, I know I'm in sanitation department, but I like to help out in streets, you know, community affairs, whatever they have. And I just try to do what I can do to make the city better.
I can I can testify to Mr. Napier. Mr. Napier was actually us in the Christmas parade. But no matter what event it is, he's always there with a smile in the face and making sure that we are okay. And for that, I'm eternally grateful. I know we've had several conversations
about some of the things that you have concerns about and some of the things that you're happy to see and I promise you I have not forgotten about those and I'll make sure that they got to the people that need um uh Mr. behavior have
exceeded all expectation I believe in a minute uh as M just spoke of the Christmas parade not only the Christmas parade after the Christmas parade uh physically going down cleaning up the breeze I saw him doing that I don't know if that's in the job description or not
but I know he also drive the garbage truck uh we in in l of the street sweeper not working they physically went down with a crew and he was leading that crew We made sure that we were all taken care of uh the night of the Christmas
parade, all the commissioners. Uh and just more recently uh an event that the city actually didn't put on, which was the MLK they walk march. Uh Mr. Napier was the first person that received the guests. He actually got equipment out,
uh chairs, tables, whatever it was. He didn't just get it out. He was helping the people unload their vehicles or trucks or whatever they were doing. And during the event after we walked and uh we were enjoying the event maybe was
picking up trash and just a lot that I have seen you know employees doing the bare minimum but I have also seen people exceed expectations and uh I want was a uh commissioner that called I don't know
who else called but I wanted this person to be recognized because some of the stuff he didn't have to do I know he was doing it uh really out of the good business of his heart because he take his work seriously and I've seen him on other events as well with the parks. Um so I just want to personally say thank
you for what you keep doing to lead by example. >> Thank you. >> I I have to speak about Mr. um in um agree I agree with what the other commissioner said, but um I did a
site visit to um their department and I can tell you Mr. Napia goes above and beyond. He organizes their area and and no one has to do that. But what's especially what especially stands out to me is that when I was in my new higher
class as a new commissioner, he was as well. So, we're saying all of this and this has all happened within a year and I just want to commend you. Um, you are definitely a step above. I appreciate your professionalism and the way you work with excellence and this is an
example. It is not unnoticed and I want to personally say thank you very much. >> Yes, sir. I also had the pleasure to um speak with Miss Smith here and work with him on on a couple of things, but I concur with everything else that other
commissioners have already uh communicated, but he also we always we already know that he goes above and beyond, but he makes sacrifices for his co-workers. I mean, I've had a conversation with him as it relates to
um even recognizing uh the work that the sanitation department does throughout the day. They their only job dayto day to help make this city look what it looks like from an any standpoint. The other key point uh was the fact that we
talked about insurance for the city as it relates to that. So he's looking out for his coworkers as it relates to the amount of money that these individuals receive and the cost of insurance and what by the time taxes and everything
else come out of their their monies. If you got family members on the insurance, you get very little back as it relates to all other taxes and everything that come out. So I've had opportunity to speak with him after he spoke with me that first time. Uh I did put the one
thing in play and they did recognize for the first time uh a sen I mean um for the public works department was able to be able to get somebody. So those are the kind of things that we need to continue to do. Um you're very
bling example of what good looks like. continue to keep >> and I would absolutely echo everybody else's sentiments and I know together I admire your dedication to the job.
Thank you so much. >> Can you take the picture? One, two, three. Smile. And one last Before we go on to number four, is there any need or interest in modifying the agenda
item on the agenda? >> I want to take in consideration the legislative update. Um being that we are having some I'm not sure if it will be >> we would have to pull it because they cannot come on Zoom.
Thank you. With regards to that she looking at the under regular business um I think that direction of the policy. Correct.
>> Yes. >> So when we put the policy on here, it's just for discussion. Um we were thinking of pulling it wanted to pull that policy.
>> Interested how it came about. >> Okay. >> So I don't think it needs to be completely >> All right. Our understanding of staff is that anytime we have policies that >> is there anything else? >> So did you want me to give just a very
brief update? >> Absolutely. So we're at the midpoint of the legislative session. Um a lot of bills have already moved forward especially with respect to property taxes. They are according to both chambers in the house and senate. So we
can fully expect to see something on the ballot November 2026 where the voters are going to get an opportunity to vote on some of those measures. I think that's probably some of the the biggest stuff that we need to be cognizant of because it's going to have a significant
fiscal impact on the city. Uh especially HB 103 pass and um that was where you had the homestead exemption bumping up to $200,000. So that's something we need to keep an eye on. The side community bills which
will also have a significant impact um on our budget have also been moving. The glitch bill that uh we were hoping to see a fix on for last year's Senate Bill 180 unfortunately is uh not progressing
as robustly as we would like. This has a immediate effect on the city of Pala because we just heard back from uh the Department of Commerce that all of the work that we have done over the last two years updating our comprehensive plan
amendments uh are have been rejected and have been found and void abinio as a result of SP 180 from last year. We were hoping that there would be a legislative fix. Uh we're going to look at other options including having face to face
meeting with the folks over at the Department of Commerce. Um, if there are any specific bills, I can tell you the ones that are impacting Putton County directly. The tributaries of the St. John's River had its last committee stop earlier today. It's moving forward.
That's obviously very controversial bill here. Um, are there any particular bills? >> Okay, >> that was very good. >> Yes, I would like in regards to the bill to um eliminate the taxes. This is
um taxes. >> Yes. Um, and I we we were able to get some great information during our legislative actually day visits. >> And um, we would um, I think Miss Cardi, we talked about putting out some information for our community to really
understand what that mean because on the surface it's not just what it sounds like. So look for some upcoming information because we want to make sure all of our communities have the information needed to make an informed decision and understand how you may be
impacted. I may be impacted and our whole um city could be. >> So look for that in >> interconnectivity team. >> Yes. Um I would like that we had a meeting with one of our
commissioners. It's an excellent presentation. So I would like all this to express. >> So I'm gonna um just a brief overview. So in speaking with Miss Cardi and just to clarify, not a meeting, >> right?
>> It was a pre meeting. It was just a presentation, right? Um, Miss Cardi mentioned that our um, staff is team palaca. So, one of the things I asked is if I could present and um, to clarify
how we all work together within connectivity. Um, so first of all, thank you Miss Cardi for letting me do that. Yes. Um, and talking briefly about how we all connect neighbors, communities, constituents, and our city as a whole.
But uh basically who is team PALA? It's the commission. We are team PACA um the city manager who is the operational manager. And as you know the committee I'm sorry the commission establishes vision and policy. We adopt ordinances
and resolutions. Um and we represent the community's priorities and values. The other critical pieces of team act is our city attorney who provides legal counsel to the commission and the manager and ensures that actions complying with laws and ethics. Our city
clerk who is our official record keeper. Our public information officer who coordinates the um accurate information and hopefully gets information out um and helps manage issues before they escalate. and of course our city staff
who is the face of the city. Um we are all team palaca. One of the things I wanted to stress to and remind leadership is because of the sunshine law when we the commissioners are in these public meetings it's the only time we have to discuss items that they bring
before us. And so um just stressing the importance of providing clear, concise information, coming with recommendations based on their expertise so that we can in turn make the best decision for our city. Um and basically we're all
interconnected. Um the staff work informs the city manager. The city manager informs and advises the commission. The commission makes decisions that guide the staff's priorities. And at the end of the day, it's our residents who experience the
result of our alignment. So what I just wanted to stress to them is that every role matters. No one is more important than the other. All departments are critical and important. Um empowered individuals create strong teams. Clear roles and transparency builds public
trust and together we serve PA with excellence. So we are all team Palaka. So thank you Miss Carter for allowing me to speak to your um leadership team. >> Thank you as well. So that that was the whole idea to put all of us in
understanding of how valuable we all are and together we make this city work. It's not one set of persons. It's not just the staff. It's not just leadership. we get our direction from our commissioners and then the commissioners themselves are listening
to our residents. So that was Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Emergency weather shelter update right >> Eddie Cutright Community Affairs. It doesn't work. >> No, sir.
>> All righty. Okay. >> Okay. >> Eddie Cutright Community Affairs. Uh the week of January 26, for lack of co uh through meetings with the mayor and the city manager and the team that we put together, we came up with a plan to try
to house some people throughout the throughout the night to kind of get them out of the cold. Um it was a 58 event. Uh he started on January 28th. Uh that night we had about eight I got the exact number. We had six uh that came through.
Uh the staff that was there was compiled of one police officer, one community affairs staff, and one volunteer broken down in a 12-h hour period. So we had two six hour shifts. Uh the community came together. We were
donating and stuff and everything and food. Uh the mayor brought some coffee. We had a couple churches bring some chili. So it was a great team effort. Uh it lasted throughout the following week of Tuesday Tuesday Tuesday morning. Uh we had a couple
minimum issues but overall I think it was a great success. Uh we put a plan together as soon as we could. It's some things we can work on but at the end of the day I think it was success. Now I would like to say that I want to rotate it around the community not just the
Jenkins but Jenkins is probably the best facility as of right now to accommodate that situation. Uh I can go on to break down. So, if you have any certain questions that you want to know about how it went or any issues or concerns or
staff hours, just >> I just want to say um I just want to commend staff for hopping in and I know there was a lot of miscommunication um with regards to some of the communication that was put out via the
community, not so much from our end, but it always goes back to making that we are at the forefront of telling our story. Um because even with the first freeze and when we had the partnership um now that uh SMA city had a part of
that um as well it was not adequately communicated. So it appeared as if we were sitting back sitting idle waiting for some things to happen and that was that was definitely not the case. So again I commend you all for the second round of making sure that your presence
was a lot more visible um efforts to make sure that we had adequate uh shelter for the unhoused on those cold front. So again, I want to personally say thank you. >> I also do want it was a collaboration with the county. The pots came from the
county. Um want to acknowledge that as we continue to move forward in partnership with the county to meet the needs of our community. community staff for what they have done during that whole um time frame to help
with unhoused. But what I would like to make a recommendation is to not have to get the commission involved with stuff like that. We know that these things happen. It should be emergency uh weather response team, not the reaction
team. when this we we know when these events are coming so we need to be prepared have these things are no different than uh evacuation plans or anything else we have cold weather every year we should not have to keep asking the
commission to should we do or should we not when the event occurs we prepare way in advance and we make these things happen and just we put these things in place and so I would re I would like to make at least ask the
commission to let's put this in place so that they don't have to ask us to we're having this event it meets the condition automatically make it happen and have a response team do it >> I was if I may as a result of what we
did experience we have now prepared SOP so that is prepared now and we are doing exactly what you We've identified the players to be the response team just as you're saying just started.
>> Um yes, I'd like to thank everyone who uh for their efforts in um servicing our unhoused population during the cold weather. Um and to Commissioner Borum's point as well, I'd like to um for us to
look at where We got the players, but let's look at location. Um, I believe I went out one night and there is some concern because we had a population of citizens in our
area with offices and potentially access. Um, so I would just like to um recommend finding loc a location that is suitable. I'll be honest, when I heard Jenkins, I really thought that we were looking with the
school board on who owns the classrooms because there are some vacant classrooms there where I think we could use to accommodate but as you're working on that um SOP and you're looking at locations could you look at some viable options as well where we have places
that could be used for I did contact superintendent about the rest of the property and there are a couple of other entities entities in the using it So basic and I asked for any other location and basically I was
told never. >> So I did try >> and and that's that's okay. So now proactively maybe we can establish some type of relationship and understanding not necessarily for there but for appropriate location. Um, the other thing I'd like to say is, you know,
there is a misnomer with um, cold weather, temporary cold weather shelters, and there's criteria that has to be met. And I know when we get the feedback, um, I believe Commissioner Campbell mentions
this all the time that people sometimes don't understand what we have to meet, what criteria we have to meet in order to establish these types of places. And it's based on a specific degree in the temperature and it has to be checked
daily. So we can't say even though the forecast is, you know, 20 degrees for three days, we have to wait until that day to see what the actual forecast is going to be. And so we're looking at that and again as we're looking at a proactive approach, um we'll continue
educating our community as well. So the desire is there, the heart is there, but so are the regulations. So we are working as best we can around those regulations >> and the truth of the matter is that um municipality are not really doing it. So
there is a a strong effort in the community to develop another location for more long-term shelter services as well as cold weather shelter. We need to be partners and support that. But we don't need to be at the forefront.
So, Mayor, if I may, um I I was going to introduce this at another point, but since we're talking about shelters and our inhouse population, um I am a board member of the uh CLC, continuum of care, and um I had the opportunity to attend
the strategic planning session um on Tuesday of this week and learn a lot. One of the major things I learned is that our county has a lot of resources already in place. Unfortunately, I think they're a
little disjointed and now that I understand better as being a board member, I'm going to work diligently to reach out to these places. These are um companies who are organizations who get money from the COC which is funded by
HUD. So, Grace Market place, Family Promise, Catholic Charities, and the Lou Conley House. Grace Marketplace, Family Promise, and Catholic Charities have funding to provide services such as street outreach, rapid rehousing,
homeless prevention. So, they are to provide those services. One of the things I've notified the board is I see a disconnect between the funds that are coming to these organizations and the work that's actually happening in our county. So, at this point, I do want to
say now that we're aware we will um I will personally reach out through the COC to make sure we get monthly reports of what they're doing in our community, how they're servicing us, and um what the outcomes are. Um I would also like
to say of those some of the um persons who came to the shelter I believe from all of them from SM S SMA and um our efforts I believe five
persons and one is a couple have been placed in in places. They're off the street now. One was um a young lady who's pregnant. we were able to get her services and even now today I found out that we were able to get a couple into
an apartment funded by um COC. So there are resources. We now know what those resources are. We will be holding them accountable and getting reports and making sure they're doing what they're receiving the resources to do in our
community. So thank you. Just wanted to say thank you for the help as well. I want to say a special thanks to Miss Cardi because we were up in Tallahassee and she was in training taking time out to actually make sure
things were coordinated here. So on the administrative end, I want to give you kudos for that. Um being able to uh juggle the responsibilities and you did a good job. Uh I also agree with the mayor for a different location.
spoke on this uh because GPS is a place that house children activities and juveniles are housed there along with um RMCA is also a neighboring facility. So, um I know
that Price Martin, one of the things that we're doing there is hardening that facility which is in the center of town would be found a lot more easier than Jenkins for warming shelter or cooling uh space, not
not so much overnight. And we know what we do now to get it deemed overnight by you're in a state of emergency by the county. City can't do that. Um so those are things that we learned u from this and so with your after action um
meetings that you guys have I do think that's >> from you to do but um we definitely appreciate what you did during that time you two cut right and uh management and I also went out was called and so I I
actually looked at the shelter and how we ran ran it during those times and I think we did a pretty good And uh again um thank you guys for all the hard work you put in and that's all the agencies that actually help. So
>> thank you manager report. >> Yes. Um I wanted to address the fact that the sound system will be fixed uh tomorrow. It's um I don't know how to explain it as well, but yes sir.
>> Based on the email that you receive that we received, I think it's almost purposeless to invest in this current sound system if they stated that it is quite outdated. So I would make the
recommendation as we try to progress with technology that we take in consideration looking at a system that will will for the years to come >> um instead of putting money into a system that is obsolete.
>> We we did talk about a system that mirrors the county system. >> Right. That's what we're looking at. I thought our it supposed to collaborate with them and implement that system as far as the microphones and the uh
>> how you push the recogn something, you know, years to come. So that would be my recommendation. >> Thank you. >> I think it's my recollection that we just got this system. I was going to ask Miss Karen to explain it a little bit
better. What is the portion that's outdated? It's just that little part. It's the amplifier that >> it's just amplifier, >> but we had to change um we found out the amp was out after we changed um the machine got right into the system behind
there. And um we actually changed out a couple of wires. We went to Staples and bought new wires for it. Um thank god it wasn't expensive, but it's little stuff like that that just keeps going out and we have no idea when it's going to go. So yesterday and the day before last
week or we spent a lot of time with David he was sick so he was facetimed so it was tough and now he's better and he said he would be in tomorrow or Monday to look at the system >> but I agree with you. I think we should just go with the whole new system
like the county. >> We got We didn't get a full sound system. We got visualization. We didn't get a full system. >> We didn't get a full system. We got a new camera. We did get it. We did purchase an updated camera. Um like you said, Commissioner Borum,
>> it was a an updated system that we were supposed to get, but it wasn't coordinating with what we already had without purchasing a whole brand new system. So that That's why the camera that is supposed to move on its own doesn't work because it's not an updated system.
>> Can we do a full assessment as it relates to what what do we have? What's new and what would be needed and then understand and know what it should we scrap it or should we just replace certain components before we just say because we don't know where we are right
now as it relates to the full scope of the system. So let's do let's just look at what we currently have assess that the the life cycle of those components >> and and scrapping it and putting a whole new system in and let's see what it look
like and cost. We got to look at you know over overall cost associated >> so when he comes in either tomorrow or Monday um I will have him do a full assessment if that's okay and I can get it to you allum All right. Let me be clear. We have an
IT resource. >> Yes. >> And and and when we're saying he'll look at it, but will this be in conjunction with the contra contractor? Is that who you're referring to? Who are you referring to?
>> I'm referring to David who is who is um from Local Electric who does the system, >> right? And our IT employee. He's not our contractor. >> Uh he does he has now been interacting
with David. >> Okay. >> So now we do have the leazison. >> Okay. >> Okay. And then we're taking the fact that Karen is the actual user. Yes. >> So um as explained that we did get some new parts, but we did not do a new amplifier.
>> And I'm okay with that. What my point is when we're assessing this system, please make sure everyone who needs to be involved is involved because what I hear are two different things. We have we're asking for a system here so we can be recognized. We can be heard. But now
that we are screening outside of here that may be a separate system. So we do need something that if even if we have to get a new component, we just need to make sure they connect. to have someone look at the entire an entire solution, understand what we have, what we can use
or how we can move forward whether it's an entire new system for both components or what. So just a comprehensive >> recommendation. Thank you so much for the recommendation
and moving forward with the city manager report. I'll be very very quick. Uh floating doc update. Uh public has been working diligently since September 2025. We boarded the parks. Now we do have the
approval. We expect completion next page uh April 2026. We've been keeping both the county administrator administration and chamber informed of our progress because of all of the festivals and events. Uh legislative
update. um from the perspective of the city going over to Tallahassee attending the rural county day. We met with other municipalities, Senator Cory Simon who was pretty much on top of the rural uh
re R renaissance and so forth. So we're trying to make certain that we get a part of that 217.9 million. Uh January 26 to 28, we did attend the Florida Legislative Action Day and we met with the representatives
uh SAP leak and other lawmakers and also Florida League President Holly Smith. Uh next page please. Um recruitment of critical positions. Just letting you be informed that we are we do we have now started receiving
applications. We will start uh planning interviews for human resource director. Uh we have assistant city manager. We're at the finishing point of the commission uh legislative aid. I noticed today we got more applications on public works
engineer and uh we may be talking about general service director as opposed to assistant city manager. So those are some things we're looking at. The next item is Dodge. How do you say
>> thank you and finance department? So we've been looking at um just our finances over the past 10 years and our budget has increased 242%. So that's significant. The budget has increased over 10 years 242%.
Our approved budgets have grown by 200%. Workforce has increased by 29%. Payroll costs have rose by 80%. We have 60 budget uh projects, 40 grant funded and 20 that are city funded. And the
reason why I'm sharing those statistics because I do want us to have an appreciation for the growth of the city over the past 10 years and more specifically next uh next one please uh Karen but specifically one guy over the
past five years. So, um, the finance director responded to Trump's, uh, initiative through the state of Florida. U population from fiscal year 2021, uh, has only grown by 500. So, we've
grown officially from 10,556 to 10,985. So, however, revenues have grown, um, expenditures have grown much more than revenues because a good portion of that
are grant expenditures and we're now starting to receive the reimbursements as well. So, the final takeaway or thoughts for commissioner's consideration is exactly what I said. Revenues have increased by uh not a lot
over the past five years only a million but they are going to increase in this fiscal year that's finishing up because of the grant revenues uh budget have increased finance department responsibilities have increased in complexity and volume and so at this
stage of the game as city manager I'm encouraging uh stringency uh that we're careful in our movements that we don't move quickly you that we uh monitor everything that we do and try to maximize the use of our existing staff.
So I will be bringing that back to you uh reducing some some things in order some areas or I'm looking at making sure that we stay fiscally sound. That is my goal. Thank you.
I want to make sure as we move forward and I heard you stay with regards to the assistant city manager as well as utilizing the general services director um and we speak often about direction that is given from the day. So I would
like for that to be a part of an agenda item that we talk about and that we finally put to rest if that be the will of the commission to change on that because pre previous direction was to advertise and hire a assistant city
manager. Yes. >> If you are looking at presenting something different to us, we ask that you go ahead and get that done by preference um the next meeting so that the commission would be able to go forward one way or another and kind of
put this to rest because we have been picking this uh can down the word road for quite some time now and I want to make sure that whatever role we decide to go with that we move forward with it because again we have application that our city manager assistant city manager if we're not looking to have an
assistant city manager uh >> let's do something >> thank you >> I agree and I would also like to hear the rale another. >> Um, two things. I'd like to go back to the legislative update. Um, first I'd
like to um give kudos to Miss Cardi um during the legislative session because we had a very we had very good interaction with our representatives um in in Tallahassee. Um they went very
well. Um certainly narrowing down our legislator's priorities and we're being very clear they are in sort of I'm going to use the language different buckets to for consideration. So we're not stepping
on you know each other or trying to drain one area. Um but very well received. We got great feedback. Um to that point and I hope Miss Cardi when we come back with what we just discussed regarding the position you can give us
your rationale as well in more detail. But part of the discussion that came out of that is considering Doge was looking at what we've been asking for for how long? The operational >> yes >> operational audit. But my point is
>> I do think there are some things we may have to reconsider based on our visit to Tallahassee and Miss Cardi please um come back with that sooner rather than later Campbell's point so that we can really discuss that with the information
on why we're changing the rest. Um but we were very well received felt really really good um very positive interaction and I'll let commissioner who were there to speak to it if they need to. Um and
um I felt very polite and Putnham proud in Tallahassee this time. So it went very very well and kudos to Miss Cardi who did an excellent job representing us as our city manager. So I think the growth and um understanding more of the
role and expectations and how to um operate in those areas is really showing. Thank you very much and I appreciate it. I was very kind. Go ahead. >> I'm going to share those same sent. But uh just to be mindful that we do
have uh something going to be before us as it relates to um your budgets going forward. There's some legislation out there that says that you will not be able to
increase your budget by one penny uh over the roll back rate. So going forward and what that means is that you're going to have to explain to Tallahassee
>> um what that increase means or what does it look like. So it won't be no increase in the mill rate uh because of you just want to do it. So it's going to be some serious things coming down the pipe as it relates to that legislation. So I
just want to throw that out there. >> Thank you. Any further discussion? Oh yes. >> I'm going to open the floor public comments. Public comments for three minutes. Please give your name and city towns and fill out your comment if you
haven't known already. Miss Kitchens Libra kitchens. I'd like to educate you all. I don't think I would educate you but the public on property tax. I worked for the property appraisers office for 36 years and we worked with the tax collector's office. I was nine years on the city commission. Nobody wants to pay
property tax. Everybody said, "Oh, well, my neighbors pay more than me. It's unfair." It's not unfair. Let me explain something to everybody. Governments run on tax money. Governments provide services that you want from your tax money. If governments don't have tax money or the tax money is less,
government still has to run and the citizens still want the services. So, that money is coming from somewhere. >> That's right. Guess where it's coming from? It will come from fees. >> Millages kept by the Florida legislature 10 mills. If any entity wants to exceed 10 mills, you have to get twothirds of the Florida legislature to approve you
exceeding 10 mills. Fees have no cap. Fine example is our is our city flack and fire tax. I'll call it a tax, not a fee, but it's a fee. If the taxes, property taxes get reduced or gotten rid of the city will have to put fees on the
citizens. There will be no cap on the fees and fees are bad news. Why? They bypass all exemptions. Total and permanently disabled veterans, homestead, wholly exempt, charity, all gone. And you pay the fee or you lose your property. Bottom line, fees will
hurt people. Taxpayers need to understand while nobody likes to pay taxes, everybody wants the services that taxes provide. We need to vote against removing property tax. It's going to hurt the the people that need it the most. The homeowners are going to be hurt. Why? Because homestead will be
gone. We can't pay the fees. We'll lose our homes. Customers will be hurt. Why? Because merchants will have to increase the cost to to us, the consumer cost to make up for the fees. We won't be able to pay them. Everybody get gets hurt. It's win-win. It's pie in the sky. And it sounds great. Like saying, we'll put
a chicken in everybody's pot during World War II. Doesn't work. Taxes are good. They're the best and most the most fair way to get money. If you can afford the the the mortgage payment and you can afford the insurance on the property, you can afford the property tax. It's
based on how much your property is worth. Again, the taxes go away. Fees will come in and fees are a death sentence to a person. Period. Thank you, >> Mayor. I've received um information from the public that is streaming. If you do
have your mics on, they can actually hear better. So, we may not be able to hear them, but the public can. Okay, thank you. >> Thank you, >> Sam. Deputy >> speaker. >> Okay. Is that okay? Sam Deputy 623 St.
John's Avenue. Uh, I'm here to speak about the sidewalk project downtown. As you know, this has been an 8-year odyssey that our downtown businesses have been through. those that are now involved in in working that from the city weren't here at the beginning and
and we've had our struggles with this project as you know it was supposed to be done within two years which would have been precoid and we're still working on the project now uh we just had a meeting uh January 6 with the
merchants we gave them uh they gave us all the information the city was there thank you Miss Cardi you were wonderful that night and We appreciate that. Uh we held it at the mayor's business. Thank you so much for that. And then the week
after, Amanda, Miss Amanda from the city streets department did a fantastic schedule of block byb block so that we knew when we were to be affected. Although when any block on St. John's
Avenue is down, we're all down because people just avoid the area. as for construction. And so we've been working on it. Well, uh, long and short, last week this the state came in to look at some contamination at the end of my block. But what they did with their
permit is they blocked my whole block from end to end. We had no sidewalk. So for two days, I did $6. I'm not in business to do $6, but you couldn't get to me. No notice, no information.
Mr. Joe and Miss Amanda are working on changing our city policy so that we are to be notified and not just walked off. But that's how be how serious this sidewalk project will be to the downtown businesses.
Um but imagine my surprise when this week uh working with Miss Cardi, thank you again, Mr. Joe, Miss Amanda, everything set. We've got the schedule. We know block by block when we're going to be down and it's down for five to six
weeks per block. So you can imagine what a hit we're taking. Then today I go online to get the agenda for tonight and I see an icon for streetscape on the city website and I pull it up and the schedule is not the
schedule that the city gave us that I copied and gave to a hundred other businesses door by door so that we were all on the same page. And then in my calls I find out that there's a meeting tomorrow where the schedule might change
again. Businesses are not going to survive this kind of treatment. We've got to have clear, consistent communication. And not the day before. I had staff there for
$6. I should have closed and gone on vacation. Anyway, I I am pushing for better communication with our contractors and a stricter penalty clause if not.
>> Thank you. Is there anybody else here for public comment? >> Seeing none, I'll close public comment. >> Mayor. >> Mayor, >> I'm sorry. Is there somebody here? >> Oh, come on up, Pastor Malberry. >> Thank you.
Uh just wanted to make an observation, not a comment, but uh we're doing a public call for all men, fathers who are uh interested meeting with us on this
coming Monday uh location at 6:30 uh p.m. The call is for the future of our sons. Uh we just want to have a roundtaper discussion with those that are interested in uh
sharing ideas that are implementable for moving forward for the uh I would say the the help for our sons. Uh we're calling men. Uh it's not a
meeting of criticizing anyone but to just gather some information uh from the public's uh men and the city and to uh we have a program that we're going to share more
about on this coming Monday uh that we shared a few years ago that was really uh impactful. So I think it'll be uh to the advantage of those fathers that would interested to come out and uh hear
ye uh the words. Thank you. >> Location location, Pastor Malbury, where is it going to be? >> Location, please >> 820 North 11 Street. >> Thank you. >> Palaka, Florida. >> What organization is this, Mr. Mo?
>> This is a call for men. I'm just sponsoring uh a call for fathers in the community to come together and to share ideas to try and implement they implement
uh some programs. Um I mentor schools in the public school system. Uh about four or five schools and we have some uh leaders from the school that'll be coming. uh DJJ will be coming and some
others that will be coming to help us to try to help our young sons. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> The date is this Monday, which >> I'm sorry. >> Which is the 16th.
>> Monday. Yeah. >> Go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> Question. No, I I He asked. >> No, the date. I just >> The date and we gave the date to him. >> That's all I did. >> I think I think we're all set. >> I was just asking for the date she gave
it to >> and it's the 16th. >> That's Monday >> the 16th 6:30. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> What organization again, please? >> You just said that. It's not one. >> There's not really one. >> It means they help us. All right. Who us?
It's a group of men that are coming together to try and solve some of our atrocities that we face in our community. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> And anybody No, I think we're all set.
Pastor Moberry, thank you. >> Anybody else here for public comments? >> Seeing none, I'm closing public comments. Um, do do we need to respond to um, Mr. Deputy or just
>> That's up to you if you feel you want to respond and go ahead. And just to for clarification, the drilling that he was referencing was a different situation. >> Yes, please. Because I think it's important that uh, the community understand why the delay occurred and
the fact that it was beyond our control. Matt, are you able to address or >> No, I mean All right. No problem. Um, our new uh project manager, he has not been here 90 days, which is why he was
not on the new hiring section. He's only been here two weeks. >> Yes. And uh, could you go ahead and give us the update real quick? >> Give us your name first, please, David, and welcome to your mic. >> I'm sorry I can't hear well. >> You give us your name, please. >> David Bumgardner. I'm the project manager for Katka. Um, I've spoken with
everybody. We've got everything finally on track with this job. Uh, we're having a pre-construction meeting tomorrow morning at 8:30 a.m. with me and Joe and everybody else, including FDOT. FDOT is what has held this up because they have to be in attendance of the pre-construction meeting. >> Exactly.
>> To the best of my understanding, if everything goes correctly tomorrow, we will be begin on Monday. >> Thank you. May I ask a question with reference to how is it and going back to the statement that Amanda put together a
timeline. How is a timeline being disseminated to businesses if this meeting has to occur and there's a possibility of change? I do not know that answer. >> Right. So, I would make the recommend No, they're not going to let you. Um, I
would make the recommendation that as we move forth and we see that these things may be potentially changed that we the city don't put ourselves in a position to put something out that has the
potential to change completely based on a meeting that has to happen prior to um with individuals from DOT that has to be there. So I would make that recommendation that we do not put ourselves in that position again because
it does look the the how they used to say the very appearance of something >> and that's what we're looking at the very appearance of something that we're trying to make it look one way and it may not even go that way at all. So I don't want to put us in that position. >> Yes sir. We have really learned from
this experience I would say. Thank you. >> Thank you Commissioner Bor. >> Right. And to piggy back on that same conversation, I think it would be really uh prudent that our our public information officer put out the stuff. Anything that goes out from the city,
you have one form of communication that's consistent. Um it should come through our PIO who is we we paying for that position. Yes, >> we need that position to be putting out the information that as it relates to
especially like projects that we we're having out at major projects among other things. So that's just my suggestion. >> Thank you. >> Anything else? >> She will release it uh tomorrow after this meeting. >> Okay. Thank you. >> On to the consent agenda. Are there any
items to be pulled from the consent agenda? Commissioner Davis, anything. Commissioner Bar? >> No. >> Commissioner Jones. Commissioner Campbell? >> Nothing. Mayor. >> Okay. that I'll make a motion that we accept
the consent agenda as printed. >> We have a mo second. We have a motion and a second. All in favor? >> I. >> Thank you. No opposition. On to regular business. Discussion, direction, staff, elected
officials relations policy. Miss Cotti and Miss Jones. Um, Madame Mayor, commissioners, um, the policy, um, that you have before you, the staff elected officials relation policy, um, was created, um, and was
written because the city of Alica currently does not have a formal policy outlining the appropriate interactions between city staff and elected officials. This proposed policy is going to establish clear expectations, roles, and the standards of conduct to promote
professional, respectful, and effective working relationships. The policy also identifies procedures and potential disciplinary actions in the event of non-compliance. Um, one of the per the policy of this per um the purpose of this policy is intended to preserve the
city manager's administrative authority, promote transparency and accountability and communications, reduce legal, operation and personnel risk and maintain a respectful and effective workplace. Um there are a lot of different items in here. Um one in
particular um that we didn't have anything on which was email um um communication and the use of blind um BCCN on emails. Um we did um and I think one of um you were interested in how this came about um for staff to BCC
commissioners. We have no idea when a staff is overlooking their manager going directly BCC and commissions with concerns that they may have and the their manager, city manager or whatever manager has no idea that there is an issue and their BCC and the commission
on some instances we get feedback um HR will get we'll get a notification that I received this and other commissioners may get um BCC's that um they don't notify we don't may not get communication back
but in any event it really the policy still outlined because we do understand that there are situations and individuals that need to BCC and communicate with all the commissions legal as well as the sheriff's department with things. So that is but the expectation is they copy the city
manager so that the city manager is still aware of what's going on. So, and in that instance, we've had oversightes and BCCing. So, I think um having a policy in place so that our staff understands how to relate to our elected
officials and our elected officials also have um guidelines on how to relate, not undermining the um the status and administrative responsibility of our city manager. So the policy is not for adoption tonight but an opportunity for you all to review it and then we will
bring it back after it's reviewed. If you have any recommendations or changes or things that you do not feel um are necessary in here then you can relay that we'll make the necessary changes and bring it back to the commission for adoption. >> Thank you. Anybody have any questions for Miss Jones?
>> I have a question and statement. Who came up with this policy? >> I'm sorry. Who came up with this policy? >> The staff elected officials. I did. >> Okay. So, it's usually something that prompts a policy uh policy change. And I
I realize what you just said. >> So, you talk about transparency on one end. That mean everything's out of open. Secondly, we just had a situation that involved employees,
uh, management, directors, what have you, that we were kind of like figuring our way through it. If we move forward with this type of policy and the restrictions where employees cannot talk to an
elected official, which I want to remind everybody that our staff, they're constituents as well. They're they're voters and they put us in office. So if we can't talk to them or they can't talk to us and be transparent with what information that they bring
forward, a lot of times that information that they may have never gets to us and we're blindsided by stuff and that's when it looked as we are, we've been called before dysfunctional when we don't know what's going on and then we have a group of folk that already tried
to to the best of their ability disseminate the information to us. So to impede communication, I think that's kind of like pigeon holding the employee and also us to be blindsided and and I just
I just think that uh this is a lot that you're saying and then even say disciplinary action. I understand the chain of command. You got to understand this is a government uh this is government. This is not a uh for-profit business where you may be the
CEO and the reason why you hire people to do your specific job. I don't think I think there is a a line between the commission giving direction to a
director or a another employee which should be prohibited. but to listen and to be able to either get information to them or just like Mr. the nature today all of I guess he talked to probably all of us and you don't want an employee to
feel impeded that they can't talk to a commissioner this is what this says I know you're saying that's not what we mean but if if they're not saying the right things then it could be disciplinary action as long as they're saying the right things
>> I just think a thorough review would see we're not this policy is not and it's not saying to impede any employee from talking to an elected official. That's not what it's saying. >> This is what it's saying as I comprehend it. Um the email what if what if
this is this is conversation. So but and so >> you know when we get this we are policy makers. So I think that it is proper that we do speak on this and we you you get it from us as well as far as what we think because >> that's what we do legislating. put I
know that's our part of our job. Um and and and in doing this job, I want to be fair to all because you go back where there were some employees talking about retaliation. >> This could look like it's a form of retaliation and we have to be careful.
And I think that their thought process may be good intent, but it do look like to me it could be a form of some retaliation. Now we putting this policy in place and what it would do is deter employees from talking to
their commissioners. >> It's we are their commissioners as well. Yes, I just wanted to make that clear and commissioners we we already know through training, ethics training, things of that nature, not to cross those lines and sometime we may be that
vaison that could bring the message back through our employee which is the city manager and it be received a lot better without repercussion. So that's just my take on that. I wanted the board to hear my part uh my perspective on that and so
>> I think as we're a voice of the public we also should be a voice for our employees as well. >> Exactly. >> And that's my recommendation was that this policy because it was put under regular business should not be there so the commission does not have to make a decision on this. And as I can see, you
may you have concerns about the information that's contained within how it's written or if it would impede the ability of our employees to communicate with the commission. If that is the case, any changes or anything that you feel that does not line up and is going
to impede their rights as employees or constituents to the commission, I ask that all those changes be noted, emailed, and let me make the necessary changes to bring back a document that will still protect and provide
transparency as well as everything else that we're trying to do here at the city. and bring back a document that the commission would be able to agree upon and pass. But I do believe we do need a staff elected officials relation policy
so that our staff can because there are even though there we are constituents as employees, we're citizens as well. There still are things that we cannot cross and should not cross as relating to
elected officials in the and undermining or omitting our supervisor or city manager being her being your only employee and without saying that they can't send anything or BCC you but if the city manager does not know and then
all of a sudden just a scenario she gets a call with something where she's been BCCD and has nothing about she she don't know about the BCC, she doesn't even know anything go out. It went straight to the um elected officials and then all of a sudden your job as elected
officials and she being your only um employee is to ask her about it, but she doesn't know. So, it is to protect our employees as well as giving her her right authority to um be able to run the
city as you all have elected her to do. But I also want the policy to have the language and not overstep anything that you feel that is um taken away from the employees as being citizens or constituents. >> Well, we have to do do a workshop on
this. I think because this is not it's one-sided I see. Um and then you don't I don't know if you even have a it's one-sided. I just think that we should take this into consideration as far as a workshop where we all could have input.
Um, and I don't want to dare those duties of being a legislator and policy maker. I want input on making policies that we have to adhere to as well as our our employees. >> Go ahead.
I actually agree with uh Commissioner Jones and that was one of the reasons why I said I did not want to nyx it off of the agenda because again this is one of the only opportunities whether we talk about it tonight or whether we talk about when you bring it
to us again. And I think the given direction, I'm not against the policy because I understand from the perspective, but I also understand what Commissioner Jones um is stating and I respect it even more knowing that he has
a HR background. Um so his input is valued when it comes down to things of that nature. So, I would move um that we host a workshop as well just so that we would be able to dive in solely on that policy. Don't overload it. I'm telling
you now. Um so that we can dive into these kind of things. And this may be an example of how we move forward with presenting policies for consideration. the best method for some things may be
in a workshop so that we won't have to rush through it and that that time is solely dedicated to making sure that as we navigate because I I have to agree there are some things that raise I was like whoa what >> um and again we don't want to put our
staff in a position to make them feel as if they can't come to us with respect um we understand that there is protocol but we want to make sure that that policy reflect reflect that they are again we you you understand the intent but put
before us I would not have even if this was up for a vote tonight I would have voted no >> and that's just being completely transparent >> so from that gather we're suggesting or recommending a workshop >> yes
>> and we are scheduling workshops >> thank you >> thank you >> I'll just say mayor I concur Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you, Commissioner Jones. >> Appreciate it. >> On to C. City Manager evaluation.
>> Okay. Madame Mayor, commissioners. Okay. In accordance with the city's employment agreement and the adopted policy, the commission has finalized the annual performance evaluation of the city manager. The evaluation process included individual written assessments submitted by each commissioner, a review of
established annual goals and strategic priorities, consideration of organizational leadership, fiscal management, communication, and overall operation performance. All feedback has been compiled in a consolidated summary that reflects the collective input of the commission. identified strengths
included citizens relations, intergovernmental relations, communications, management style, and job effectiveness. The commission also identified areas for continued focus and improvement, including personnel management, financial management,
implementation of commission policies, providing information, providing advice. The commission has established clear direction and measurable expectations for the upcoming evaluation period. Overall, the commission finds that the city manager has met expectations during
this evaluation period. Based on the results of the evaluation, the commission may approve and adjustment to the city manager's compensation in accordance with the employment agreement. This concludes the human resource summary of the annual performance evaluation.
>> Go ahead, Commissioner Jones. >> I just uh have one question. It's a statement really. Uh in in completing this evaluation form, I did have a one-on-one with the city manager
and I also completed this evaluation form. But as I was completing the task, I noticed there are three categories and it says need improvement,
meet expectation, exceed expectation, but it doesn't have a area in here where not meet and u not that I would that could not meet on any of these u but it doesn't have a
area for that. Is there any reason >> not that is the form that was adopted by the commission the needs improvement would be um from my standpoint um not meeting expectations >> yeah but but but it doesn't have it and
that is a category on most but that was just a statement >> u the second statement I have is I noticed we were we were notified that everyone hadn't submitted headed
at first and then we got we received another copy of and it said that the other commissioners had completed theirs a little later. And so in the comment section, I was actually section I was actually looking
forward to knowing what my colleagues have written in as far as any comments. Um, and there are several spaces that are left blank
and I know mine was one that you said some areas was inel illegible. >> Yes. And >> any com Yes. Yes sir. Any comments that are not listed um there are no as you this just a compile whatever comments were given for any section are listed.
If there's not a comment it can be up to five comments for each section. If there's not five comments it simply means that there was not a comment presented for on an evaluation. >> Okay. Um All right. That was it. Those are the
comments and questions I had. Anybody else? >> I would like to address something. Um I believe I heard in the report that the commission can um make a recommendation of salary. I do
want to go on the record. Um number one, I want to understand do we need a motion to accept this evaluation as a full commission? That's a question I have. And secondly, if we need to make a recommendation because I I know, well,
I'm not looking to make any salary recommendation, we're good. So, I just want to know how we need to move forward. Do we have to adopt this since it's from everybody individually? >> I think it would be prudent to have a motion. >> Okay. >> Do we have a motion to adopt the evaluation? >> You want me to hold off before I make
the motion? >> You want to comment? >> Okay. We could have further discussion. Go ahead. Commissioner Campbell, did you have something? >> I was going to make the recommendation that whoever makes the motion that the copy of this evaluation be placed in her personnel file
>> just so that it is a part of official documentation. >> Okay. Um >> do you want to make a motion or who wants to make the motion? I'll make them. I'll move I move that we accept the city um manager's
performance appraisal for the period as presented and that we do not recommend any salary changes at this time. >> Second. >> Have a motion to second. All in favor? >> I. Any opposition?
Thank you. May I because I didn't do a commission. >> I was going to >> and I want to make sure it will be anyway. That's where this >> I want to I'm going to make a motion. >> Okay. Okay. >> I wasn't going to change it or do anything different, but >> and one thing I want to say and make
sure I understand is that um the next evaluation period will be one year. >> Yes, ma'am. >> The we're on annual now. And also um while you gave the summary report
um a copy will be in her personnel file. I mean as with any other employee. Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. >> That's fine. >> And um I was tasked to work with HR on the two letters of reprimand and those
going to be brought back to us. >> How how are we addressing that? Oh, you don't have you don't have the copies. Um, I can go. >> No, I'm not saying if it has to come before the next committee. I was asked to work on those. >> I'm lost on the which what >> the reformation.
>> So, there was a I personally made the request that during the process of the cure period those um if there was something that was not met that it be a reprimand because that came from a previous um request or requirement. And
so I made that request. >> Yes. And I was tasked to to take to do that and I did work with HR and we did do that. >> Yeah. So it just has to be brought back to us. >> Okay. >> Just want to make sure that we don't lose track of it. >> Thank you.
>> The letter is already prepared. If you would like to present that later, I can go and print that off. The letter is already there. >> No, we'll wait till the next time. We'll wait till the next time. That's fine. >> Go ahead, Commissioner. >> Yeah, I'm I'm a little bit lost about the letter, ma'am. Anyways, you know, we've had a number of things that has
happened in the city. We've had things uh where we allowed for individuals who uh resigned um before they uh before action we take in and I don't know HR
didn't take action after the individual resigned prior to but anyway so we've had people a a a um intern student who was cursed out by an employee here and that was well noted. It was um well
documented, investigated, but we allow for a staff member to curse out a an intern student and nothing happens in that individual's file. So I think we need to be we we you
know let me saying we need to be consistent across the board as it relates to when we talk about and it was an investigation done and and we know in in fact these things happen. There's combination of things. So I think we need to be careful when we're starting
to put reprimmens in um uh individuals files that it certainly have the weight in it and is warranted for that. So, I think that weighted very heavily. And there's other things that's been brought
to the commission that warrants that if the if the HR doesn't do it, I mean, if if the city manager doesn't do it or HR doesn't do it, then the commission should have a weigh in on those things happening. Even if it's if it if it
fails in in those in those layers. That's my only warning to putting this thing in a individual file when we've had these and these things are it is not that old. I mean I would say le
say less than two years old and that that has happened and it's been investigated. So that's my only warning. >> Go ahead, Commissioner Campbell. >> Well, I'll make the statement. Our only hire is the city manager. what
the city manager decides to do within her discretion overseeing the various staff members, that's solely up to her or them at that time. So, I don't want us to be confused at what we do versus
what she does. And what we did was made this a recommendation way back then. And it was actually voted on unanimously that something that was a requirement of the commission if it was not to be done
or could not have been proven to have been done that it would be documented in her file. because this was a requirement from a previous situation that over overlapped with this situation that caused for her to have to
do the same thing that should have been done prior to. That's why I made the motion to have it documented in the file. If if it would have been proven, we wouldn't be even be having this conversation. But again, what we do with
the person that we hire versus what she does, those are two separate those are two different things. >> Go ahead, Commissioner Davis. So, this is leading me to a question. Um, and my memory may not um be clear on it,
but I thought that of the requirements that were given in addition to the a couple that had not been done previously, they were added to this cure, >> they were >> requirement and at during the cure period, they were completed. >> Correct.
>> Okay. I just want to make sure. But the what what we voted on was that they were not originally done and that we had to add them to this second request. >> Correct. >> Okay. I just want to make sure I'm on the same page. Okay. Thanks. >> Any further discussion?
>> Well, I would need to reconnect with whatever the write up was. I need to re um evaluate and look at that so I can make a better informed decision. >> She was saying it's going to come before us, right? >> It's going to come. Yes. It'll be on the
next agenda, I would assume. >> Well, go ahead, Commissioner. >> I first I want to say I don't like the format that we are going to be that we talking about this because of the fact I want to have some discretion as what I
say and I don't want Miss Cardi to feel u a bad way after praising her then, you know, talk about this. I wish we would have did this first and then came back with some grades. However, that entire ordeal, how do we document that or how did we or how was we
supposed to document that in the evaluation because it was not an opportunity really to do so. I don't know if I'm just feeling that way or what. I am Am I not making myself deal?
>> So you need to finish your statement. So I say how we can ask how how did how were we supposed to take that into consideration with the evaluation there? There was >> there were some things that led to discipline.
>> Yes. >> And here there were not really any opportunities to list to rate any of it. Go ahead. >> Go ahead. >> So, good question. So, I took it based
on the format that we have because that speaks to followup or some specific things that we got to rate her on. And when I was rating, I did consider those when I gave a rating for specific categories as it relates to timeliness
of things and um made a comment about it. But um that's pretty much it. um timeliness versus uh in a comment and we've talked about you know moving forward with that but I mean I didn't cite it as a specific item but I took
into overall consideration when giving feedback for her performance from my perspective >> as did I so >> I did as well >> I guess we all did but it wasn't specifically what I said specifically >> I get what you're saying if I may
respond I think when we did what we did as far as the cure process and allowing that to officially close out. That served as a separate component versus the evaluation which again if we all say that we took that into consideration
because if there were anything that needed to be corrected based on the cure period and that we had the opportunity to give her direction and she gave us feedback to that. So that all goes back into the breakdown of what was broken
down through the uh evaluation overall. >> Any further discussion? >> Yeah, it is cuz I just want for clarity. >> That's right. >> While we have this in front of us, what area is that that you were referring to?
>> There's a there's a combination. The whole document is broken down into different components which a lot of those components were a part of what needs to be addressed during the cure process or
what we put before her. >> Okay. I just want >> example but >> I mean even if we talk about just one of the simple things the uh the timeliness um timely like we put something before
her and if we're taking in consideration the time frame that we gave her during the cure period of 30 days. you can automatically add that to the overall timeliness of other task and other things that she does as city manager. Um
I mean there's a list of things that could correlate based on the cure process and what is encompassed in this evaluation form. >> Okay. So and I'mma move on because I'm not beat this. So let me give be clear on my intent. So my intent would be if
there was an issue that she was cited for, I should be able to go I should be able to document that. And I know you said I know the mayor said she documented the file, but we don't even know what it is. I haven't seen it. But a specific
whatever infraction it is or was at the time, what was the root cause? What got us there? And how could we as uh her boss could in this evaluation to say here's
the corrective action. We know what we say we wanted you to do but going forward maybe maybe in a comment I have noticed Miss Carter have taken the uh initiative to do X Y and Z. So that would be a plus for her. I'm not saying to beat up but to give her a plus and
say she has showed exemplary uh cander in achieving these tasks by doing a b or c. I don't see an area where I could have done that addressing that that the individual acts. So that's all
>> and I'm going to ask for clarification but what I think I hear is two different things. There's a cure period. We had a situation and we had a cure period and what came of the cure period was after the cure period was that she had done
the things and that there was a motion to restore her fully to her position. Am I clear? >> So I think that ended cure period >> is the way I took it. Then we were back on her regular position is city manager
and this evaluation was how is she doing in that sit in her job and so that's what I took it as two distinct items there was a situation an allegation we addressed that which is what we did through the
cure period according to her contract um her contract we went through that approved her to come back to duty, that that was done, that she'd met what we asked her to do, and now we're just back to regular city manager work and
evaluation and and and so that's what I'm understanding. Now, if there's something different, >> I look for clarification. And I just think things were happening simultaneously and so they kind of overlap the whole
grievance cure evaluation all was tied up tangled up. So again I am in agreement with the statement that >> Commissioner Davis made as it's two separate. >> Great. So, won't we expect the copy of
what you authored? >> That will Miss Jones will get that out to us. >> So, when did you guys complete that? >> I'm sorry. >> When did we do that? It was a few weeks ago. It was early February, right? >> Yes. >> Early the latter part of January. It's
been two weeks. The letters were actually the final copies that were compiled um in January. Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm I'mma say it. >> And I heard Jesus. I'm calling him too. Um, >> this goes back to the effective
effectiveness efficient. This should have been something that we could have brought >> today or would have had to where we can go ahead and close this close this out. Um especially if it has been done for
two weeks. Um >> actually a little more I mean I we got together the week after our last >> and and that goes back and I understand we all have a lot of stuff going on in our departments but there are some things that we should just be able to close out and be done with and that task
was something that we should have been done closed out with closed out with and moving forward and looking for our next thing to be done with. And so we, and I'll say we because we all do, we have a work to be done with being more
efficient and effective with bringing stuff before the commission and once it is executed, bringing it back to the commission. And I always say we talk about something when it's hot, but when it's no longer hot, we it's on the back burner. So again, I want us to be more
proactive in making sure that when we have direction that comes from and I'm not I'm you you just happen to be here at the moment, but I'm talking to the general body uh from the heads down to uh all of the employees that we have
work to do when it comes down to that type of stuff. >> Okay. And I and I and I will apologize to the commission that once the letters were generated, it was my understanding since the commissioner said it was look they were looking for the mayor actually to go make sure that what you had
recommended direct for not completing the um two >> but we knew that when the cure process was commenced that it hadn't been done right. So that information was nothing new to us. Um because I purposely brought it before because that was a
concern of mine and I've voiced that several times. So you don't have to apologize because this again this is something that we that we we've had we've no no let me let me let me have let me have the moment. we have done on
several other things but we have initiated or had a liaison where we may not have clearly communicated that's why I say I'm speaking from the individuals that sit here so this is for all of us this is not solely dedicated to you just
so be happen to standing here standing there sir and the issue has arisen again so I wanted to address it but this is nothing solely putting you out there we as a whole have to do a lot better with being more effective and efficient with bringing
stuff back to this commission. And I'll be the first if there's anywhere that I lack because I I'll wait till the last minute to get a document into you like I did with the evaluation, but it was submitted. But I have to work better for myself. So this is not just something solely to you. This is a whole group. So
>> mayor and and that's where we were going with that whole team palaca. So we're all leveling up. >> Exactly. So you don't have to apologize. We will do better. We will do better. >> Thank you. >> I promise you. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you. On to public hearings. Um second reading, Reszone Ordinance 2026-08, possible number 03102600 010000060, located at 0 PRC Way. Miss West will be
representing um Mr. Lorenzo. >> Just filling in for Becker and Polyoff and the entire planning department. This is the second reading. So, um it's already been approved one other time. This is for a lot on PRC way. The
applicant is Beck Sloan. Um it's the reasonzoning of a 5.68 parcel. We have had a presentation on this from the planning director once before. Do you have any additional questions? >> And I do want to make sure that the record reflects that um a representative
did email the commission to let them know that they would not be present um tonight. So again, I want that to be on the public record that that email did come in. >> Correct. And the the um applicant did have an agent uh in attendance for the first reading. So that does suffice.
>> Yes. >> So I'll make a motion to approve. >> Second. Have a motion, a second. Is anybody here for public comment on this particular item? >> We've already did public comment for general comment, sir. >> No, I was I was talking about the evaluation, sir. >> Oh, no, that's not
>> Well, yeah. Um, >> yeah, please don't don't do that, sir. >> Um, all in favor? >> I Any opposition? Thank you. >> B. We request annex amend the future land use map and reszone 500 Browning
Avenue and 201 north highway 17 ordinance number 202609 ordinance number 202610 ordinance number 202611 and parcel tax ID number parcels numbers
rather there are two 01 160250 0200 0 and 01 1 260250 02200050. Miss West, >> thank you, mayor. This is a request to
annex two parcels, approximately 4.16 acres in total for the purpose of connecting to the city's water and sewer system. It also contemplates amending the future land use map from Putnham County commercial to urban service to the city of Palaca commercial. And in
addition to the flum, it also seeks to reszone from Putney County commercial retail C2 and residential mix R2 to the city of Palaca Intensive Commercial. And the applicant, Mr. Lewis, I believe,
is in attendance. Um, sir, if you'd like to please come up and address the commission. M mayor and commissioners and ancillary staff. My name is Perry Lewis and I'm here just to seek um if I can
get approval to annex over into the city. >> Anybody have any questions? Go ahead. >> Sure, I do. >> So, Mr. Lewis, >> yes. >> In this in this application, I realized that it was done back in was it 2023?
>> It was. Yes. >> Previously. And it seems that the usage or the proposed uh development has changed about three times. Am I right on that or wrong? >> Two times.
>> No, just once from from me. Now, I don't know what the purpose of it was before I purchased it, but my goal was to um develop a RV park, but within the last three weeks, my civil engineer had uh
made up a drawing and he could only get 3738 pads out of it. And to be profitable, we need at least 50. So, I'm having a change of thought in what that property will be used for, but at the same time,
I'd like to still connect with city water and sewer. So, my concerns that I want to bring to the commission and out in public with with the use and I mean quite sure it's your
property if we deem it and say, "Hey, yeah, we're going to annex it in." You can do what you want with it. But I think when we talk start talking about the future land use, we should know what's going into that parcel prior to us just saying yes, we give you the
blessing to annex in that. That's very important to me sitting up here because of the neighboring what's neighboring that partial. >> Sure. >> Because maybe the folks don't want a RV park there. Maybe they want some
commercial. Maybe they want some affordable housing. >> Sure. >> And I think that that should be completed on the application. We should know prior to just NXing in. Secondly, there's other
partials and this don't have anything, this part doesn't have anything to do with you directly. other parts in that area on that 17th quarter that has been trying to get city services. And I want to know I want to ask our staff
the cost look a little different from this applicant than other applicants. And that's a problem. That is a problem. And I could give you an example and I see red in the back where we have the economy in hotel
just a little south north of you. Um their cost to tap into the water and sewer is a lot more than yours. And again it don't have anything to do with you. But those are questions that we're going to be asked. Why? Why is it
discrepancy? And I want to know myself right now. >> Well, I could probably tell you because I have a price uh from DOT that I got an estimate was about $375,000 to get water to my property and sewer.
And that was to rip up all the sidewalk and then have engineers and everybody do their work on my behalf and put it underneath the sidewalk. put the lipsts and the grinders up and put the sidewalk
back and put the grass back on my own behalf >> and I agreed to that and um so that was only to go 400 ft. Now, I know the place where you're talking about that's just north of me probably six blocks.
>> Mhm. >> And if he would like to, you know, at the same cost as what I would have to pay per linear foot, then that's his prerogative. So, I I don't mind, you know, that's
okay. That would be his his business decision, not mine. Um, no. It's more than that. $375,000 is what they reported. It's more It's more than that. >> Um, because they actually they bought it
up to us. >> So, I don't think that's appropriate. >> Oh, no. I'm thinking about him. That's that's building that's I don't think that's >> that was just plumbing plumbing city water sewer to my place. >> Right. So, again, that's my reservation.
I want to tell you I and I asked were you going to be here because I wanted to say it to the property owner and and my the reservation is because of that that's on the city side. I want to bring it on the status but the other two is I want to know what's going in what is the
plan and uh I think it's important for >> so fair enough. I agree. You know, since the the plan has changed for RB Park because it's not uh uh going to be the revenue won't be coming in as what we expected. I am now leaning towards um
uh maybe a a little mini mall type thing or switch it back on over to half of it would be back to residential and the other half continue as is uh uh commercial property and and build out
like that. So whether you have uh housing going in there or um uh commercial property buildings going up, uh utilizing the water and sewer is really not going to be affected versus
one or the other. What may be affected is what your the clientele around the property, their wishes and wants, what they want in there or would not want in there. Um, as I when I bought the property, I had
there was a house just on the north side of my property south on the on the lining. That house was a disaster. And if I had not bought that property and taken down the woods, then that house would have been there and and
still would be there today. So, it's a increase in the value whether it be the county or whether it would be the city. It would bring in revenue for the city. Um, not only that, you're on my behalf, it be bringing revenue into the city. It
would be the population that I'm also bringing in that those people would be eating at restaurants or shopping in the the Pala area. So if it just is dormant and nothing's there, then you're defeating the purpose of of the city of
Placa growing. You know, you want it to thrive. I can say from this guy is that we want responsible growth and we want the kind of growth that look into our future for our constituents.
>> Not all the not all the time about um >> folk that come in and flip properties. Let's just be honest with you. They don't want to flip it. So, so that's why my antennas went up when the different usage came out. And I I read application. I sent an email out to
staff today saying this. And so I want to be transparent with my colleagues by saying when the application is made for us to make a decision, it should be thorough and complete and accurate. So this this request is basically what we
have is a old request and I would like for it to have been revised so that we're making a decision based on fresh information. >> Okay, fair enough. Uh back when I filled out that application, um I was working here at the hospital as
um a nurse practitioner working with Dr. Kurabella and I came down with pancreatic cancer and so I'm a survivor five years out. So that application was just prior to me coming down with pancreatic cancer. So that was why the the slowdown of the
progression of what I wanted to go ahead and put in there. But it's just recently when I got back on track a year ago, this January, I came down with lung cancer and I had my right upper lobe taken out. So that put a little delay on my project out there. I'm permanently
permanently disabled and um and so due to the cancers and they're projecting that I'll probably get more cancers from toxic exposure from the military that um
uh so my plan is just to continue with my project and whatever it takes I'll continue with and whatever building I put in there or property will make a difference, but I think it'll be a positive difference. So, um I don't mind
uh when I get to that decision, it's going to be I'll tell you right now, it's either going to be going back to residential and I build out and then rent as some of my neighbors are doing with the duplexes there and I'll put in a few of those and then on the
commercial side of the long strip there, uh then I'll uh put a little mini strip mall in there with I don't know how many um little little buildings uh all connected together with the intention of
renting them out to whoever would be wanting a business. Um whether it be fixing up boats, whether it would be hair hairdresser salon, whether it would be candy store, ice cream store, whatever the business would come in,
that's what would go in. >> Do you have anything else? >> Commissioner Davis, did you have something? So yes, how I know it depends on factors, but what is your goal in terms of a timeline for
looking to start your development? Well, my timeline was uh um to get started immediately and what the first part of the plan was to get water to it because without water then I can't do anything
else with whatever goes in buildings, housing. So that was going to be ASAP and uh until just recently my civil engineers provided me a a layout. It was a nice
layout and everything, but again, um it it wasn't what really needs to sustain RV park. So, now I'm going back in to reconsider what else can I do with the property. So, but that's what I think it's either going to be housing or it's
going to be like a mini strip mall. >> Okay. Commissioner Bor. >> Yes. I I I think it's something that we'll have to think about, but I do know legislation is out there that uh is preventing
uh local municipalities from blocking or restricting various types of things, whether it's part of the comprehensive plan, land use, all these different things. So, um, saying no to
some of these things, uh, I know are made with the potential of saying no, uh, legislation is, uh, moving forward and I think you very well know about this. I think the city attorney about the U legislation that's moving forward
as it relates to land use and not being able to hold individuals to whatever that particular land use is especially for the developers or what have you. So that's just kind of been on the thing from the advocacy committee that I just
like to just share that out. >> Right. Uh, I I believe you're talking about SB 180 where it prevents us from adopting any regulations that are more restrictive. I do need to add just some legal context here. Um, from the
annexation and the future land use map change, the there is no legal requirement that the applicant commit to a particular plan. Um it's a it's a land use change and that can whatever they end up putting on the property could
change significantly so long as it is within the allowable use of whatever that future land use category or that zoning designation is. They are allowed the entire breadth of what is allowed in C2 for example. Um, so that that plan
can change and often does. Uh, you see this with developers purchasing property, they annex, get all the future land use changes, the resonings, and then they flip it. You have a statement here that that's not the intention, but there's nothing legally impermissible about that. >> Go ahead, Commissioner Davis.
>> Um, thank you, Miss West. And that was going to be my next point is that this meets all the requirements necessary to give this um you know make this change. So I'm going
to move that we accept the recommendation of the staff to approve. >> Second >> a motion a second. Anybody here for public comment? Could you step aside? Mr. I know I I see you. Mr. Lewis, could you step aside? Thank you. >> Thank you. League of Kitchens act of Florida. I was at the planning board
hearings and while it may not meet the requirement of the law as as Miss West just said, the policy is when someone appears before the planning board, they ask they request certain changes, the planning board makes their decision based on the legality of the changes and based on the purported use of the property since the uses change. And I'm
sorry about the Mr. Lewis's condition, but I'm going to I have to look at from a practical standpoint as a former commissioner and as a citizen who may want to get changes myself at some point on some piece of land. Uh I think this must be referred back to the planning board. Let them decide if they want to
go ahead let go refer it back to the planning board. He's not going to do what he said. He's now going to do residential. He's talking about changing it back to some other zoning. If you approve it to change, then he's got to go back to the planning board and have it change back to another zoning apparently. But since the and no
offense, but since his use has changed and what he presented to the planning board what less than a month ago, then I think that you're at your duty from a policy standpoint and not set precedent. Just go ahead and refer it back to the planning board. Let the planning board rehear what he has to say and then let
them decide if they want to again agree to to the changes. And if they do, it'll come back to you to vote on. But I think you must send it back to the planning board. This has been done for other people, developers who have come and wanted to make a change or have presented a unfinished plat. You send it back to the planning board and one of
you, I forgot which one it was. I think Mr. Jones mentioned that it wasn't complete. Send it back to the planning board. Let them rehear it and then have it come back to you. Mr. Lewis is not ready to move forward at this point. He said he isn't because of various various things, the the economy and now he can't
do the 50 RV lots and the RV park is what the plan board thought was going to go in there. That's what the citizens who heard the at the public hearing thought. That's all changed. Please send it back to the planning board. Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss West. I'm going to defer to you for your thought on this.
>> Again, um it it is a land use change and you are legally permissible to do any of the options under that land use category or that zoning designation. Yes. >> So, let me ask you this and it's just to put out there. if the
intent of the property change because essentially what I'm hearing him say, he just wants to get the sewer and that kind of stuff, >> right? >> Does that have to go back before >> No, the the planning board >> the planning board acts in an advisory
capacity to the city commission. It is a recommendation. Um it it has nothing to do with the the water and sewer. Um they're simply asking about the overall project the if the scope of what the intent was does
that have to go back before the planning board or come before the commission for >> it it does not the planning board members frequently are curious and they do want to know the details of what the project is going to entail which is natural and you want your planning board
members to be inquisitive but the applicant is not bound by whatever proposal that they come up with that they're just not legally bound to that they are allowed to do any of the vested permitted rights under the that zoning designation
and that is because market forces change uh as you have seen in this case they are allowed to change their their project but it it is within the discretion of this commission on how you want to proceed. >> Okay. So we have a motion and a second.
All in favor? >> I >> I any opposition? >> Nay. Okay. 32 motion passes. Request to annex amend future land use map and reszone 3129 Reed Street.
Ordinance number 20 2612 20 2613 20 2614 for parcel number 0110 126865000000060 0 0 1 0 0 Miss West.
>> Yes, this is uh again a request to annex um two parcels. Hold on. This is 2532. Um, indexing. >> Give me just a second, please.
>> Okay, sure. Make sure I'm on the right one. >> I know. And I don't appear to have that file from planning. >> Okay. >> And it's the same parcel. It's there's not multiple parcels from what I read.
>> Oh, all right. >> Yeah. My my apologies. Um I don't have the file from the planning department for this particular item, but I'll just go based upon what's on the screen. This is a request to annex just one parcel approximately 69 acres into the city of
Kalaka again to connect to water and sewer. And this is for the purpose of developing a car dealership. Again, it's going to be amending the future land use map from Putnham County Commercial to City of Palaca Commercial and also a
resoning from Putnham County Commercial Neighborhood C1 to City of Palaca Intensive Commercial C2. And the applicant owner's name is Muel Duk and Deana Duk. I apologize if I'm botching any names here and I don't know if the
applicant or their agent is in attendance. >> Okay. >> My apologies if I butchered your name. >> And could you please give us your name for the record? >> Yeah, I am Jason Davis Greens, mayor, commissioners, and fellow city staff members. Uh I'm Jason Davis, authoriz
behalf of Dr. Duke and Diana. You're East Arkansas >> produce. >> Oh, sorry. What's up? >> I was just saying you look familiar and I was just trying to figure out >> Oh, yeah. I've been in the planning uh development a lot. So, yeah, you
probably see me somewhere. >> Does anybody have any questions of the applicant's agent? >> You said car dealership? >> Yes. >> Used car dealership. >> Where is this again? >> Uh 3129 Reed Street. So, on the corner of Palm Avenue and Reed, right there. Right by Napa. >> By Napa. Okay.
Just a vacant lot. It's grass right with that little >> where the Virgin Mary. Where the Virgin Mary? >> Yeah, the Virgin Mary. Yes. >> Have some trucks parked there right now if you've seen them, but I have already some trucks there. So >> So y'all y'all going to construct a uh a
building there. >> Yeah, we're going to So the first step is of course to get the water there, which is what we're working on right now. Eli's helped out a lot with that. Um I believe they're going to do that sometime this week. They said they're going to put in the water, which we can pull permits.
>> So, what if we say no? >> Well, second. >> Yeah, that's Yeah, >> I don't really know much about the process. Of course, you know, uh I know >> I think it's good. >> You behold the authority. So, that's why I'm here. >> I guess everybody's used to us saying, "Bro, step it."
>> That's what it is. And so, that's why I say a lot of times some information is still, some of it is present, but um Yeah, I just I just want to know I I've seen that vacant lot for a long time >> with that statue on there and there's
several around town and I am glad to see that the doc is going to do something with those lots, >> right? Yes. >> Anybody else have any questions? >> Do we have a motion?
>> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> Oh, we have double seconds. You have a motion. Gab, I'm gonna open up to public comment in a minute. Um, we have a motion and a second public comment. Could you please So, Miss Kitchens can come up. Thank you.
>> Illegaly kitchens for Latin Florida. I apologize for not having get gotten back gotten back in staff sooner, but in on this C items one, two, and three, Baileyville is spelled incorrectly. It's B A L E Y. And it should be B A I L E Y. on the previous ordinances referring to
Baylor bill. It was spelled correctly and I just want to make sure that it is spelled correctly in the in the city documents. So it is Baylor bill is misspelled on on these three things. >> Miss Kitchens, I thought you was going to come up here in opposition. I'm going just tell you the truth.
>> Anybody else here for public comment? >> Can we uh >> see we close public comment? >> I'll make a motion that we accept given the scriven scriveners error. >> Well, it's already in there, ain't it? Scriven error. >> Yeah. Yeah, I just want to make sure that providing for noting it. >> So, we have a motion, a second. All in
favor? I. Any opposition? Thank you. >> On to D. First reading ordinance 2026-15, an ordinance of the city of black adopting a pre-approved exterior color palette for properties located within designated historic districts adopting
historically appropriate colors organized by architectural style and period providing for administration interpretation and enforcement by the city historic preservation board and planning department. >> Yes, thank you mayor. Uh this ordinance
is coming to you at the request of the historic preservation board. They've been meeting over the course of the last half year. Um upon the discovery that the color choices, the color palettes that they had for the two historic
districts were merely guidance only through the Department of Interior. and they uh preferred to have a color palette that had a little bit more guidance for people moving into the historic districts to establish um expectations in order to preserve the
character of those historic districts. So, the color palettes that you have in your packet reflect um several time periods that um have existed since the city's incorporation in 1853. That would be the Victorian period, the
colonial and classical revival period, the bungalow style, the craftsman style, and the post-war romanticism style. The color palettes that you see um have been pulled from the St. Augustine Historic
Architectural Review Board. There is some discretion within the body of the ordinance for deviations, slight deviations from the color palette, but as you can see, it's pretty extensive. And this is what the historic preservation board has thought your approval in the final form of an
ordinance. >> Go ahead, Commissioner. >> No, I just have a question with regards to anyone that moves in that area or looking to paint, repaint or paint. Will they be limited to the time frame in which that house was built? So, I heard
the different >> frame or you know the different eras, right? >> The area. So, I just want to >> as long as this falls within any of these color schemes, they will be able to utilize them for Okay, >> that that is correct. We're we're not holding a bungalow to bungalow colors
only. >> Okay. >> Okay. And I do know it says and I think it's just for reference Sheron Williams, but just so that we make clear to people they can use any brand of paint as long as they match >> that's right. Uh, we wanted that that
Sher Williams tends to be expensive for some people and it's quality paint, but I'm just saying people feel somewhat limited. >> Correct. Um, the color copies don't always convey the color properly and so to reference an actual paint brand um
leads to more accurate results. Any other questions or discussion? >> Do we have a motion? >> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> We have a motion to second. Is there anybody here for public comment on this item? Seeing none, we'll close public comment.
All in favor? >> I. Any opposition? Thank you. On to E. First reading. Ordinance 202616 general employee pension ordinance an ordinance of the city of Palaca Florida revising chapter 2 division 4 of the
code of ordinances of the city of Palaka Florida entitled general employees retirement amending section 2-173 forms of payment of pension creating lumpsum benefit options revising chapter 2 division six of the code of ordinances of the city of
palaka Florida entitled firefighters retirement plan amending section se section 2-343 Three forms of payment of a pension creating lumpsum benefit options revising chapter 2 section seven of the code of ordinances of the city of Palaca Florida entitling police officers
retirement plan amending section 2-250.2000 2000 h forms of payment of a pension creating lumpsum benefit options repealing all ordinances in conflict miss
no miss >> Jones I'm sorry no no I'm sorry no no no about America commissioners um what um the pension plan um the pension um department the police fire in general voted on is being able to um the
ordinance is going to provide for um individual employees that have been vested for seven years um that are not going into a drop plan have the capability of taking lumpsum payments of 5 10 15 and 20% up to 20% um once they
retire they can take that out as a lump sum payment and then receive the remainder 80 uh 95 depending on the amount they take out into their installments which it'll decrease the amount of payments that they will be receiving but they have that opportunity to take a lump sum payment Any
questions? >> And this has been vetted by the actur. It's no effect at no cost to the city. Going to put that out there. >> Do we have a motion? >> Second. >> The motion is second. Anybody here for public comment on this item?
Seeing none, we'll close public comment. All in favor? >> I. Any opposition? Thank you. >> On to F. First reading, ordinance number 202617, an ordinance of the city of Pako, Florida, revising section 54-32 of
the city code to reduce the number of planning board members from 9 to five and one alternate establishing attendance requirements. >> M West, >> so uh currently the city of Palaca's code, um has a planning board consisting
of nine voting members, which is excessively high for a city of our size. Um, one of the issues that we have been encountering is a difficulty in establishing a quorum uh because we have to have at least five members in attendance in order to move any of the
applications through. So the solution that the the planning board has crafted together with the planning director is to have five permanent members and two alternates. Uh, and that would be modeled after numerous other jurisdictions and that would help
alleviate the quorum issue. Any questions, Miss West? Go ahead, Miss. >> Yes. So, as I read this, I'm going just be honest. I'm not in favor of this. And the reason is if we can do 5 plus two, why not seven? One of my major concerns
is to Commissioner um Jones's point is so we just rubber stamp and it's just a check check check because I think it's important to have diversity on the board and perhaps the issue is we don't have the right people and I get that you know
it's hard to get people on these boards but I what I do agree with in this um change is the attendance policy. Mhm. >> Um but having three people make decisions I think is just not enough
representation. Um and I I just I just don't think that's reasonable in order for the business that has to occur before things are vetted to come here for a final
decision. So, I do want to say that um you know generally I think on a planning committee 7 to nine is and I get it you're talking about the size of our city but generally speaking a 7 to nine member planning board is um kind of a
standard from what I from what I see from what I see. So I just want to put that out there. um three people and and I think and this goes something besides this. I I I disagree with this,
but we also may have an opportunity to ensure that when we're getting the applications for board members that we're looking at the requirements of who makes up that board to see that we're getting complimentary board members so that we can have feedback from all
areas, not just three people who say, you know, make it happen, make it happen. So that's my feedback >> and I think that came as a result of even with the airport when we were moving forth with that that we wanted to take a look at all of our boards across just to make sure that it is a
reflection. So, I'm interested in knowing is this um did this come about because of how did this particular conversation come about wanting to change from I heard everything but how did it come about at this time? We had
to cancel uh several planning board meetings due to a lack of quorum which significantly since they only meet once a month that means the applicant basically has to wait a whole two months before they can even get a
recommendation to come to you. So it it's considered basically uh from the applicant's perspective more bureaucratic red tape and there has been significant frustration Go ahead. >> My my question is do we have any
documented u instances where from the time of whatever going back on the record? How many of those meetings has been cancelled? um you know as it relates to the number of meetings that they could not make
quorum and the meetings that they made quorum because if it's if it's to the degree to where they're not making it and it's impacting things and they're you because I want to weigh it out to understand before I make a decision on it as it relates to uh saying okay well
they didn't make the last two or three meetings or the last meeting. So, if it's been that way since inception and they only missing like two or three meetings or what have you, then we we need to take a a look at it as it
relates to the overall um impact of their not making meetings. >> I haven't I don't have any numbers for you at this time. I will tell you that I don't think that there's been a strict adherence to what constitutes a quorum
in past years. >> I I think we need because I I was a planning board member before I became a commissioner. So I know probably some of the things that you're dealing with now we were dealing with way back when. So I I understand but I think it's an opportunity in order for us so it
doesn't appear as if we are just solely picking out one that we bring as a whole. um and possibly see what we can do across the board um to alleviate because even on some of the other boards I know they're running into some of the issues with quorums as well and that's
just not um honestly that's just with boards in general and not solely just with the city of Palaka. I sit on several boards where we struggle with cororum and this type of conversation has come up. So I think in order for us to effectively just move forth with one
band, one sound that we just bring all of our boards and take up the and let's address it as a whole rather than just individually because I think there is a lot to take in consideration that possibly could change the way or the the structure of other boards as well.
>> Did you have something else to say? Commission, >> are board members notified prior to their board and and via email and and via email? Do they respond? >> Yes. So, our our uh planning clerk, Alex
Romero, is responsible for the HPB and planning board and he does call to ensure that there is quorum and does try to follow up with that as as much as possible. >> Got it. So we do know as much as poss I mean as much as the
feedback he gets when we potentially may not have a quorum or people who say they're coming and just don't show up. Correct. >> Um >> listen let me let me just speak frankly. >> Um so we have the wrong people on the board. I I don't
>> No, no, no. I'm making I'm not asking for validation. I'm not asking for validation. I'm making a statement. We have people who are not committed to what they asked to do because they requested to be on this board and we voted for them to be on the board. >> There have been illnesses.
>> I just want to make that statement. But if um I don't see a solution, the solution being so we'll we just reduce the number because if three people get sick out of
five, we still have an issue if the other two can't make it. I I guess I don't see how this policy is going to um correct the issue. It sounds like we have a deeper problem and and I'm with Commissioner Campbell. If we're going to
do that, I think we need to look at all of our boards, understand how many people are attending to see if we're compliant, and then I think we can come up with a a a board policy across. So,
>> okay. So, if I can get a little bit of direction, I am really loathed to touch the airport advisory board again. We are. >> No, no, no. I use that as an example. I just use that as an example of >> So, you want the list of what we're recommending we discuss. >> No, no. I'm Let me be Let me be clear. I
I use that as me, too. Right. >> No, let me let me be clear. I use that as a >> example of the conversation that came as a result of what we were trying to do with that board. I didn't say bring that
we that is done. Let's just get the people on there. Um, but I think moving forward giving what Commissioner Davis said, it gives us the opportunity just to address as a whole because again I I know even when I was on the fire pension
like they we'll have to wait until we can get somebody and it nine times out of 10 was me being hey let me just run from this school real quick. But I think that it gives us the opportunity to address as a whole the number, but it also makes us take in consideration
how can we strengthen those who support the staff that support those boards to where I know on some of the boards if we miss three meetings within a certain time frame, we're getting a letter of some sort asking us for reconsideration
of our commitment or corrective action. plan because again if you ask to be a part of this organiz I mean you know this board there is a level of commitment that is expected so that gives us an opportunity to put the support into those that support those
boards so that hey if you're not fulfilling the commitment maybe you just might want to resign or you know so those are things that we will be able to address at that moment >> I think we also have to do a better job of educating the community about the value of being on the board, what that
involves to get more people interested to make it more the value of being on the board, the positive experience it can be, what you learn about your city, the civics aspect of it. And I don't know if we do such a good job of that. We post what's vacant, but we don't know, people don't know what's involved
in being on this board, the commitment, and when you're there, what is that commitment commitment involve? Um what what is the expectations? almost that onboarding piece beforehand, but a little summary about what does the planning board do, what would you have to do when you're on the planning board,
that kind of thing in a very brief, succinct way so that people know what they're diving into because I think sometimes people think it's a good idea to volunteer and then find out, oh, I don't I really don't like this, so I'm just not going to show up. >> Go ahead, Commissioner Davis. >> I have another question. So, I know we
voted tonight um on the consent agenda, but prior there was one vacancy on the planning board, which tells me there were eight people, right? My question is if we have a nineperson board and it is
not filled, how are we calculating quorum anyway? The the only way you can calculate quorum that is legally acceptable is the whole number which is nine. You have to have the majority in attendance which is five.
>> That's correct. I just wanted to get that on the record. >> I do know that answer. So my point is we have a bigger board situation. last year it was we asked that this board
process be looked at anyway but um is that I guess my other question is is that the only board that's having issues with um quorum and making decisions and I'm saying that kind of
tongue and cheek because I do recognize the the um the impact of the planning board which is different from the tree committee or you know something else but it's planning board I mean we have the board of zoning appeals we have
three vacancies >> yeah that that board hasn't met in years >> I can tell you I have not even heard of it happening I agree so my point is if I I'm going back to I don't like to peacemail things and and you know I think that's what Commissioner Campbell
was saying and not to put words in his mouth but that's what I'm saying we I just don't I want to I understand the impact of planning board but I just don't believe that lowering the number of members is the answer to
address the solution to address the issue at hand. So un unlike your other boards like your historic preservation board, your planning board members are acting in a quasi judicial capacity and so their decisions items cannot move
forward until um they go before the planning board. So, if I can get some direction, if you want me to take a stab at revising this draft ordinance to only have uh an attendance policy in place to
reduce the number to seven, if I could get some direction on specifically the planning board because of its critical crucial at Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> At this point, what I'm saying, I'm I'm I'm good. We absolutely need an
attendance policy for sure. um a quasi judicial board and that's the point I'm making. So when we get applications up here as recommendations then
we got to do something differently than rubber stamping because if they don't know the requirement or what they're impacting the number is I don't see decreasing
that as the answer to um addressing that. I I I hear you. I hear you. I do hear you that it what it's impacting, but I just don't think that's the solution in and of itself. >> I think again, Miss West is looking for
direction because it is such a crucial board that we need to make some give some idea of what how this should go forward or not. Well, what I would make make a recommendation is if we get a couple of alternatives uh alternate for that to
help try to feel back heal that those individuals and from what I heard you saying that some of the individuals may have had illnesses that caused them to not make the meeting that didn't meet quum. So I just couldn't see from that
regard to be able to just start making a reduction if it just was pending on illnesses as opposed to >> um you know just the board has been working u for how many other years. But I think we need to keep a better a
better um roll call or whatever absentee list and understanding to know which how these meetings are making quorum and like uh we talked about earlier making a policy that if they miss these meetings they uh
there's um a process to where they either get suspended or removed but we have uh alter alternates to that be able fill those spots when these people are become ill or just don't participate.
>> Can I ask a question please? So therefore is the direction that we kind of keep the policy as it is and try to develop alternatives to increase the attendance >> to get to get some people to be on deck to just have that. I mean that was just
mine. I don't know what the rest of commission would think but that's just my recommendation. Commissioner Jones. Um, I gave the recommendation of we need an attendance policy, but but let me let me say this. I This is how my mind is thinking, and
I'm going to go ahead and put it out there. >> They're a quasi judicial board. They need to review these items that come before them. Commissioner Jones brought out some good
points with one of the items we approved tonight because what I hear is from a legal perspective, if they present this stuff and we're moving and changing, you know, land and and doing all those
things, then truthfully, what is needed other than a check mark on a checklist? list and and that's what I'm what's I'm really a little frustrated with because by the time it gets to us, we're told, you know,
legally they can do what they want with the property. We can do all that and I know they're vetting. My point is if that is the case, then I'm digging my heels in and that's very rare because I'm definitely open to hearing another alternative to say that we cannot
decrease the board because I'm looking for them to do work. If we can't do it here, then I need them to do it. And and I don't want to I hope I'm not misstating, but again, I'm not a fan of rubber stamping. I feel like there are
times we get things here to make a decision on that our hands are tied because legally they've met the requirement and at the end of the day, we really just got to do what we do. I mean, we could vote no, you know, but what I'm hearing is that we really don't
have the anything to stand on to vote no if certain if a person wants to move land or move it to different areas. And so I'm I need to clear all that up for myself
and that's all I can say at this point. >> Okay. >> So, >> go ahead. Are you going, Commissioner Jones? No, I agree with what was said with the exception of these are volunteer boards and we we're talking about uh attendance and
attendance policy. >> Uh life happens um you guys and people going to miss and you go you give them a nasty say hey you'll miss what you going to do are you going to attend the meetings or not? Um I I don't think
anybody's probably uh abusing not coming to the meeting and we already don't have enough people >> as it is. So I would suggest my suggestion would be leave it as it is >> encourage better attendance because you
don't want to push people away where we won't be able to feel it. Um and then it appears that we recycle people anyway. When you look at now a a new recruiting effort could be done and because we had the same people on the boards and so
we're not getting fresh eyes and fresh ideas. So therefore as this board change this governing board changed that one should as well or we're not we're not really changing and that's what I was suggesting. They're they're they're doing the same thing. They're approving
and they get to us, all we can do is approve because we're relying on them solely to bring fresh information, correct information, accurate information to us. And uh then maybe we'll feel better about giving them stamp of approval when that happen.
>> I agree. That's why that's why I stated bring it so we can address because there's a policy pro there's policy that needs to be addressed. So I wholeheartedly agree. That's why I wanted us to address it as a whole because there are more layers than just the number of members. There are things
that we still have to address as a whole with regards to even what the mayor and her agreement with some of the things that she said. It still needs to be addressed. >> Yeah. >> So, with all that said, >> leave it. >> This is what I heard.
>> Leave things the way they are for the time being and have a workshop. Yeah, >> I'm going to ask you. I'm going to have you come on, Mr. Kitchens. I'm sorry. It's going on a little bit. Come on up, Mrs. Kitchens. I know. I knew you. I have you, C. I knew I knew you were
coming up. I live with Kitchens, for lack of Florida. I have been actively involved in the planning board for the past 23 years. I got involved with in 2003 when uh something went on that uh I was unaware of till almost the last minute. Since then, I have watched it very closely. I've spoken out at
meetings. I've appeared at meetings. I didn't ask you on the planning board. So far, I resist it. Change your mind. Haven't decided yet. However, there's an old saying, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Uh, this planning board has nine members. The particular problem is one member whose name will go in mentioned.
You all know him. He's been frightfully ill since probably October. He can't do his job at the radio station. He's had heart attack, surgery, you name it. He's seriously ill. He probably should have gone ahead and resigned, but he hasn't. I know I know of one meeting last year
that I and I attended every one of them except maybe one or two. I came to the meeting fully prepared to be there for six hours and thankfully there was not a quorum. Everybody was relieved. We went home. Then the planning board met the next time. I don't know of very many things in the past 23 years when there has not
been a quorum. But if you have nine members and you can only get five to a 10, you have a quorum. Do percentage wise. If you have nine members and you have five to a 10, you got five out of nine. If you have five and you get the same percentage of those apply that attend that attended at the nine, you
probably are going to have a quorum. Leave the planning board as I'm on the and by the way, for the record, I'm on the board of zoning appeals. I'm very happy we haven't met in years, but we're there if the public ever needs us. I'm on this charter review committee, which is 12 members. I'm on the bond oversight committee for the school district, 12
members. We've all worked very well. The charter review committee works like a well old machine, as does the bond oversight committee for the school district. This works. I don't care what they do in other cities this size. We're Palaca. We want to be unique. We don't want to be like other cities. If we're like every other city, why would anybody come to Palaca? Let's go listen to this
obviously. We all look alike. Come to Palaca. We're unique. We like the way we are. If we want to be like another city, we're going to move to another city. So, leave the playing board as it is. But I do agree with the absentee thing. As it is right now, when people are absent, they usually call in and the chairman will say so and so called in, they're sick, they have surgery, they're out of
town. Table this tonight. Do not pass it. have it come back with only the absence policy. three unexcused absences and no reason why somebody can't say well no or somebody well my mama's sick she's in the hospital an excused absence is fine
on the uh bond the um the board of uh shoot the zoning uh not zoning appeals what was it anyway the um forgot what it was anyway I was on another board and you had to have is this one the magistrate does now for I was on the codes enforcement board for many years
>> and you had to have three unexcused absences you were out but there's no reason Why somebody can't call and say, "Hey, I'm sick or my mom is sick or something." You got the excuse. No, no problem. If it's unexcused, you if they miss three meetings with no excuse at all, then then get them off the board. But people,
you almost have to hold a gun to people's head to get them to come to the to sign up for these boards. They don't want to do it. I heard Betsy cry and plead with people for 35 minutes at a time. I couldn't get them to sign up for a board. But leave this the way it is. Table it tonight. Do not pass it and bring it back with the thing for three absentes that are unexcused and the city
commission refused their attendance. Thank you. Thank you. >> Okay. So, >> is the motion on the floor? >> No. >> No, there's never been a motion. >> I make Go ahead. >> I'll make a motion that we table
um this particular >> item >> item and allow it to come back with uh come back as a how do we want to table the item. It will remain the same
and we will um at a workshop setting discuss all the boards. >> Well, why would we why would we why would we bring it back if we said that we we didn't want to change the number? We we don't want to reduce the number. So there's there's no need in um bringing anything back. Just leave it as
is and deny this. >> I deny this item. Second. Second. >> Okay. >> Motion is second. Any other further public comment? Seeing none, we'll close public comment. All in favor? I. Any
opposition? Thank you. >> On to Commissioner's comment. Commissioner Campbell. Um I I do want to go on record to say um I know that we get updates um as commissioners with the weekly updates, but some of those
updates are not getting to our citizens in the community. And so I know at one point and I'm not saying that we I don't know if it needs to be captured in the uh >> no because some people don't have access
to that kind of stuff. um if it needs to be captured in your report. But there was a point that we were actually hearing directly from department heads reporting in a commission meeting so that our citizens would be able um we
totally miss that we got a new fire truck. Um we totally miss that we have our police department who's going out uh in our community having cotton candy and um with with our citizens. We're missing
those key components. We get it because we get the pictures, we get that, but as far as broadcasting to the community what our departments are actually out doing, we are missing that. And I want us to think of a way um to where we I
don't if it's a rotation, if it's captured in your staff report, but again, those are things that I feel that our community needs to know. And it may seem small, but of course we want the people to know that we have cops doing that. We want those are just we want to
see that taxpayers dollars is going to those particular, you know, different areas throughout the community. So I'll leave that to you um to come up with a method of how those kind of things can be brought back to the forefront and making sure that it's disseminated
uh electronically. I know again we have the news later letter letter but everyone doesn't have that. So just think about the different methods and the different ways of relaying information to our constituents. >> Thank you. Commissioner Jones
>> to piggy back. Uh I agree with that and the public information officer that is responsible for getting some of this stuff out. Um we need different vehicles for it to be out. That's number one. Number two, uh
we had a little overview of what we did in Tallahassee. The ones us that attended um it was great information se session um stuff to be brought back here. I would like to see the public information officer take those trips
with us on on the legislative stuff so that they can bring it back and highlight what type of work we have been doing, work we put in when we go up there. Um, as well as addressing tonight that we're going to have Putin County
Day. >> Mhm. >> Next week, >> the 19th of the 19th. >> And we all know how those days go when they have uh what different municipalities have. Um, they basically show off their
city and what's going on. We hired somebody to do that job. I would like somebody representing us to actually showcase us or put them together some type of display, some type of information that says to talk about
what we're doing, why we're so great, why you should visit Palaka. That that needs to happen. It shouldn't be a commissioner out there. We don't we shouldn't be doing that. >> We need someone telling the story like Campbell always, Commissioner Campbell always says. Um, so I want that's my
feedback off that. However, mayor, I have another uh piece of information. The Brown Avenue Baileyville annexation. That's what I've been talking about for three years squaring off these boundaries. Here we go again tonight
with this piece of property within the county, but they're going to annex. I want to know we actually uh at our county city collaborate meeting joint meeting we mentioned that I would like to have an update on where we are with
trying to make those things happen and I and I've already addressed but I don't I want it presented in a totality all of us would know what's happening. I don't like I really don't care for the those one-on-one meetings uh because you guys
may have other input and once we get the information together you know the input is very important is very important. This is the only time that we could speak freely and actually um have great communication. So, I would like to have that update. And again,
when we are having different areas annexing, we're still excluding the masses. How can we get it done, folks? And I think together on this dice, we have to keep that push to make this happen. The city, the county is saying,
"Okay, you guys can have these partials." Okay? So, why aren't we taking advantage of them if we're not doing anything else? Get the revenue. We talked about if uh they take away the homestead exemption, I mean, excuse me, if they take away taxes, homestead, I
mean, property taxes, how will we gain revenue? We'll gain revenue by getting water and sewer fees. Okay? So, if we capture that, >> that's revenue that we'll we'll be bringing in. So, we should not be dragging our feet on that. We should be pushing and making it happen. That's
just a statement. And I would I would like my colleagues to get on board with this because that's very important. >> Commissioner Bar, >> Commissioner Davis. >> Yes. What Commissioner Jones said.
>> Also, I will say we went to um today, Commissioner Davis and I went to a deployment ceremony and it was a very nice event. Um and we were pleased to be there and yeah and watched some of our army soldiers go off to to be deployed
and um proud to be welcomed to it. >> It was a nice event. Um do you have anything? Go ahead. >> With the direction that was coming and I apologize that came from Commissioner Jones. I would like to make sure that that is a agenda item so that we don't
let it slip through the cracks. >> Okay. And to piggy back off of what Commissioner Jones said, but you know, we're talking about the the inside and I think the concern was that whenever whenever we annex something that's what's outside that go beyond the state
of boundaries, annexing those and that's what the leap frog was talking about as it relates to that. That's what put strain and stress on our city resources and and and that's what we need to be careful about when those things come to the city. But anything internal inside
the boundaries, I mean it it should not put a stress and strain that we're not getting we're not we may not be getting the funds for it but the interlocal agreement kind of helps in that regard. So that's just >> my
motion to adjourn. >> So be move. >> Thank you.