everybody welcome to our student of the month event um always heartfelt children and their parents and educators um going to school
and students after that photographs both students educators and them doing students with their family members from PS Elementary School joseph Canon
Sauca Children's Reading Center lions James A long Elementary kelly Smith Elementary okay military Center perez Melon Learning 12 Mosley Elementary School
kayen McGibney and Sciences thank you hold on hold on yeah yeah oh no about Good evening everybody welcome to the city of Pala City Commission meeting
March 13 2025 6 p.m call Me to you with the pledge of allegiance from Commissioner Davis don't mind I'll let invite a guest to come up pass and would
you know about them please sir dear God we want to praise you our savior nation God appointed that you would meet and guide and direct them through so many ways heavenly Father guide us all
help us as citizens to support him and support we thank you for one thank you for all those who work and keep us of to the republic for it stand
nation indivisible [Music] commissioner Davis present commissioner Campbell commissioner Jones present commissioner Bor present next agenda is the city manager
resolution 2025 R40 in the o clerk resolution 2025-R40 a resolution of the city of Palaka Florida appointing as city manager of the city
of author mayor in the city to execute and test That's fine thank you yes any opposition thank you here you go right here okay
so I think I think it's left hand on the Bible raise your right hand right right there we go there we go if you'll repeat after me i see a cardia I see a cardia do
solemnly swear or affirm do solemnly swear or affirm that I will faithfully that I will faithfully perform the duties perform the duties of city management of city management and will support and honor I will support and honor to the best of my ability to the
best of my ability all applicable laws of the state of Florida all the applicable laws of Florida button button and the city of Palac and the city of Palac i hereby through this oath I hereby through this oath affirm that I
will perform the duties affirm that I will perform the duties of this public trust of this public trust in a fair in a fair equitable equitable and ethical manner an ethical manner befitting the dignity befitting the dignity and
responsibilities of the office and responsibilities of the office congratulations please do a picture here orange i don't learning all right so oh it works okay
so I would like to first of all give honor and appreciation and thanks to the Lord my father um I appreciate that he actually believes in me and would even entrust me with such a huge opportunity
i thank the commissioners i cannot I don't know how to thank you enough for you know just having faith that I will continue and that I will um actually reach the goals and objectives that you have in your mind i will continually
strive to meet those objectives in an ethical manner as well i really want to thank the employees i mean what a great team the city of Halaka is fortunate to have such a great team of diverse well-skilled
well-trained and and and individuals that want to be their best so from my heart my ears thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you
and then finally to the community thank you for embracing me family but what I didn't know is that you would become the family so you guys are my family and I say to you that I will continually do my
best i'll be here every day that I'm supposed to be here i'll work my every day and you can't make me stop i'm trying not to work i think we have a time here at NFL publicly i've had great times but I
really enjoy here i know if you ask my kids they're like "Wow she really like what she doing." And I really do you know it's important to be a part of something that matters and coming to the city of Pala
on an everyday basis for me that matters and I hope that my little effort will make your life better cuz I got great plans for this city and I'm praying to the Lord to teach me and show me and I'm coming to the commissioners with
expectation that you will lead and guide me and I'm looking at my employees and and my peers and saying "I love you guys." And uh I hope you learn to love me too okay bye thank you
that was that was three minutes of course yeah he has to raise his right hand and repeat after me i Chief Jason Shaw I Chief Jason Shaw do solemnly swear over domly swear that I support
consultant defense defect and defend the Constitution the Constitution of the United States and the government in the state of Florida and of the city of Florida and well and faithfully pension board member
So help me God and what's your sort thank you for the opportunity and I promise to make it no 2025 manager interview minutes and February 13 2025 commission meeting
minutes yes and do we have a motion yes uh mayor I move that we approve the February 12th 2025 city manager interview minutes second we have a motion and second all
in favor any opposition thank you madame Mayor I move that we accept the February 13 2025 region meeting minutes second any opposition thank you
first place to approve second any opposition i'm just going to read the proclamation first whereas the youth of Palaka Florida will determine the future strength of our country and the fairness
of our democracy whereas the safe place program is committed to protecting our youth by access to immediate health and safety of the young people so the assistance and guidance of my safeguard influences such as child abuse
substance abuse they need readily available resources to assist them with basic circumstances that comprise their safety well location found in businesses such as restaurants convenience stores movie
stands and community buildings such as fire stations and public transportation vehicles whereas the success of safe place relies on public private collaborations among businesses schools fire companies law enforcement and volunteers and black flower needs more
community ventures to support and positively implement young people the safe place program must meet home stands relative to outreach and community relations to receive direct federal assistance that sets for the runways whereas more than 1,700 communities in
39 states administered the safe place program more than 20,000 locations whereas more than 45 473 youth have been helped in the safe place location received counseling by someone as a result of the safe place information received at
school where since the program's inception in 1983 more than 18 million youth have been educated to the national safe police networks in check familiarizing them with the state and providing them about how to seek help in
order to stay safe whereas increased awareness will encourage all communities to establish safe place locations for youth to readily access readily access the help they need at this time I am currently the city of Palanka together city commission to proclaim
March 16th 22nd 2025 national safe place brief oh Hello I'm Melanie Soldivia i'm the reach and safe place specialist for CDS uh family behavior health services and this
is um Angela Williams who is the residential supervisor for CDS and I just want to say how important safe place is some of you might not know what it is it's the big yellow sign that says safe place there's one right in front of the police station if you want to see it
okay so safe place is a vital resource for protecting our youth it acts as a safe haven without the fear of judgment for those who are in a vulnerable state we currently have 19 safe place sites in the city of Kaka and I would love to see that number expand higher i invite the
city and all its businesses to think about joining us and becoming a a safe place site it's our duty to protect these children as they are our future at CDS we have a saying that dream work makes or teamwork makes the dream work
so as the city of LA if we work together as a team we can make a dream to keep our kids safe thank you thank you amen amen please thank you
commissioners um I'd just like to take this opportunity to introduce the newest employees to the city of Pala and we have Melissa Dryer code enforcement officer kelly code enforcement officer we have Robert Evans the assistant superintendent at the water
treatment plant and Jennifer Pennington is the administrative assistant one at the fire department [Music] the home run error award proclamation of gratitude and recognition honoring an unsung
hero do you want to well the unsung heroes often work tirelessly selflessly and with unwavering dedication to improve the lives of those around them and whereas their contributions while often overlooked create lasting ripples of
kindness compassion and positive change within our communities and whereas do acts of courage integrity and human humility humanity um these individuals embody the very spirit of humanity and inspired all of this society urban world
and whereas Willie Henry Mitchell as an unsung hero has cons consistently dedicated his time to men mentoring young students providing crucial support to local in initiatives and spreading hope and kindness to those in need now therefore
be it resolved that the city of PALA does hereby recognize and honor the extraordinary contributions of Willie Henry Mitchell and proclaims this day March 13 2025 as a day to celebrate and reflect on the vital work of
Sunero let this proclamation serve as a reminder of the power of quiet steadfast service and let it inspire us all to acknowledge and support the unsung heroes in our midst and witness whereof I have onto set in my hand and cause the
seal of the city flag to be fixed this 13th day of March in 1925 uh for the last four years I've been on this commission we have had honor of choosing an unsung hero in our community
that had great contributions throughout um whether they have service for civic duties helping around helping other kids mentoring stuff like this uh Mr willie
Henry Mitchell was a mentor worked at Palakica High School 30 years where he taught school coached boys and girls athletics and uh he was the first African-American head varsity basketball
coach at Vala High School making history and he did that for 27 years I believe not at the high school but you coached 19 years he taught for 35 excuse me stand to be correct so uh
Mr mitchell uh general giant as we we call him uh I got the pleasure of playing under coach Mitchell for one game and I was a junior varsity tournament um as I was a freshman at that time uh so I didn't get a chance to play an entire season with him however
he was this mentor not just for me for many at that high school this is his wife Miss Elizabeth Mitchell and and she deserved to be up here right beside you coach uh because in our community I grew up in the province Hill
and in our community we didn't see the family unit a lot but I remember you and your wife coming up as a a top teenager and now a grown man and uh it's this
stand to be recognized and applauded 50 years so as that mentor you mentored other men boys come in and you were unselfish enough to pass the torch as you pass the torch to Lamar Purifi to take
your to move on in your footsteps and I don't know Lamar played under you but Lamar and coach Jason Shaw who moved the block and coach Black High School currently uh you was trailb you led the way i don't see a basketball court
coordinating after you a gymnasium after you or anything and I just wanted to pay homage to you while I'm living and had opportunity in this community i'm not the only one there's plenty of people feel this way i just happen to be the the guy to have the honor to present this to you but to our unsung hero Coach
Willie Mitchell thank you i just want to say thank you Coach Mitchell i I came after Coach Mitchell left and retired I became the second B the second African-American basketball coach at Pak High School he taught me everything that I know basketball-wise
went on to the Final Four for the first time in Black High School history all because of coach V and I would also like to say something um to coach Mitchell i want to thank him for giving me the opportunity to coach underneath him he uh allowed for me to
coach at the junior varsity level as well as the the the varsity level when I came to black I start giving back so just because of you I continue giving back through PAL and other organizations as well so Lord thank you again for all you've done for the youth and also
myself i'd like to thank everybody uh mission first of all I like to thank God uh for being here uh I'm at the age of 73 trainer and uh it's been him that kept
me going but my thing was when I got into education I felt that the kids were the most valuable thing and they still are and to see the product of what happened in
education and that I was a part of I'm so thankful and thank the commission and mayor for this honor thank you mayor commissioners citizens and staff we just wanted to do a quick review for the fire department for last year of
2024 i believe you guys all have the documents in your package so I'll try to move through this um PowerPoint pretty quickly um so if we can skip through I think the first four pages which is just a letter um so as you guys know you gave us some
money in our p uh in our budget last year to get a new uh assistant and we just talked about house really helped us digitize things we have given up I believe six file cabinets and so now that paper has
now been digitized and put into the the system and we no longer have all that paper on our property um so actually it's still in a box getting ready to be dealt with properly but but it is it is out of those um cabinets and it's making
life a lot better and she is really helping us modernize and um get a lot of this stuff that just been pushed to the side because we don't have time to deal with it and now it's getting done and it's and it's really helping us um as you go through that you can see the different things that we have are doing the scheduling all sorts of stuff
inspections making sure that Chief Ramper is where he needs to be when he's supposed to be there and and that sort of stuff so um you know the next slide we're just moving through some of the stuff that we've done in administration we've done the first year stuff that's really helping we're looking at adding a few
more for community connect which allows the citizens to reach out to us and we can reach right back to them through the internet so if they have a question of why is there a column of smoke coming across the river whatever we can start answering it or if they have say my neighbors are doing something we can check into that and let them know what
the current laws are whatever it is I mean we can start getting some information from them it allows them to give us lots of information if they want to or as little as they as we move through that they're still moving through all sorts of new
technology trying to bring things up to date make sure the firefighters are safe the pre-planning programs they'll keep them safe they can look up stuff on about every building in the city and know where the power shut offs are where the heights are closest way to get the hose to where we need it or whatever so
starting to build that platform and we're getting more and more information it's also going to let us have tons and tons of analytics and we pull that data and mine it and get good information so we can put the resources where we need them um this is our calls for this year about
4,074 calls um there's a little bit of a breakdown there but if there's any questions about any types of other breakdown we can break it down further for you as you may remember we had a a structure fire last year on Kirkland with an fatality if we just got the
report back yesterday it wasn't an accident and it is what it is but that's that was the one death that we had this year our police were reported out to Dixie County after the hurricanes they were uh they got to meet the governor
and then they got a commendation from Chief Aal from St augustine who was on the mission with them said that they were a great group of people to have and we know that because we work with them every day but it's great to see the governor and other people seeing that as well it also puts PAL on the map they
know that we're coming to help if they need it uh we've been training with the SWAT team and other things other agencies and resources we have about five people went through hazmat this year so we're getting our new staff up to speed um our hazmat calls are
increasing starting to see more fuel spills and different things with chemicals and stuff around so it's not it's not out of hand but it is it is increasing um next slide wanted to make sure that I I said
something about Jim Troano and the Becker they gave us a bunch of uh buildings to work in to tear up and go and do our our our build our skills in those buildings we got to cut some roofs and stuff like that it's just the kind of training you
can't normally do most people don't like cutting their roof so you know we it was nice to have a building that we can do that kind of kind of specialized training um and then there's tons of other stuff there as you know we we are probably doing close to 400 hours of
training every year for vendors to some more depending on what their certifications so training is constant um Go a couple more slides one more y so we had a note from the fire marshall he gave us a quick
breakdown of what his his doing we had over 200 construction inspections um eight pre-construction consultations with developers and and uh contractors we reviewed over 30 steps of plans um we
have 500 annual safety inspections six formal investigations we have determined all the fire calls with see some of the the events that we're on this is during October when we go to the the schools and the
daycarees um so I think we usually see over a thousand kids every year and then depending on blue crab and stuff like that where we have some things set up we see even more um we have quite a few station tours and other public education
and engagement we're doing uh extinguisher training with all of our industrial partners local businesses and other people who need that that type of training um equipment acquisitions we've got a lot of new stuff that helps keep us going a lot of
the technology is making things easier when you have a small crew you sometimes use technology to get through that because we don't have enough people to throw at us so we throw technology and tools um we have tested all the hydrants for this year things looking pretty good uh
as you know about new employees in recruitment we have two that are in the academy now one that is almost finished EMT he'll be ready to be hired in a couple months we've got one that is finishing up BMT and will be starting fire and those are all kids that
we so hopefully they'll they'll turn out to pass [Music] everything we've also have several new employees this year and Trimble Johnson and then
um with the scholarship we have those two we're looking to get one line for September um just to make sure that we have people when we if we lose any um I think that was about it there any questions on anything specific or any
question thank you Chief yes ma'am um I just want to say I had the opportunity to to tour some of this as a new commissioner and I was blown away by what this department does with their resources
i would say that I'm looking forward to continue to support you and your department we say that public safety is our number priority and we start here everything that we do and we consider the effects
on public safety we want to grow we want to build but it's not an isolation we have to grow out public service departments accordingly and consider them more than accordingly when we look at when we're looking at our budget and
hearing so thank you very much for all you guys do yes ma'am thank you and a personal point of privilege i need them to get some new yeah we'll look into it for y'all sleep that's just got to be nice yes ma'am we'll get it done thank
you so much yes um Chief I want to commend you and your staff on all what you what you all do for for the city of Palaca and the safety uh which is our top priority um again you mentioned that you had over 400 hours of training for
every employee i mean that's something that's a model that you have set and you guys uh are ISO2 rating number two which is very very high keep our insurance very low and so that's what we want to continue to strive for and you're saving
lives and you're um responding to the the response time is very low yes sir um now the the fire hydrants you mentioned that the pressure is good now years ago prior to 2015 you didn't have such good pressure that's true when you would go to a fire you couldn't put it out right
that's true we're doing the right thing here in the city of Pact and we're going to continue to do that and thanks you guys for for everything that you do yes sir thank you did an excellent service thank you city manager report yes ma'am um just want to give uh the commissioners an
update uh we have been working diligently um public works building has um we we progress recently you want just a moment when
um yeah so we went and we're starting to utilize pass room uh to do our design drawings they're currently at about 65% which is great see two could get half that out of the other companies um Commissioner uh Jones had asked if we can have a company that could do both
design and build well Pass has a company that will do it and offers a not to exceed number meaning that they can move forward as soon as they're finished yes so we're making significant progress finally and we hope to start
construction within what 60 to 90 days perhaps maybe I'm a little bit more aggressive to relax my chopstick okay thank you hold on jo you have some stuff to share about as we roll oh yes that was going to be next
okay so the other thing that we are really working towards is improving the roads uh particularly in the north section of town and uh we had a field trip uh we took Commissioner Jones uh
public works more than one person actually and we literally drove around the entire north side to get a better feel for what the need desperately is right and I'll let you say a little more so we're currently the ITV went out or
is going out at the end of uh the beginning of next week to do a section of road so you're going to see a lot of work going on side quickly we had some drainage problems with the um water sewer part right and they're in the process we started moving on those yesterday so we're going to see four or
five major drainages where you can see they're all blasted in they're all going to get taken care of so we're moving forward aggressively going to see a lot yes thank you sir thank you yes uh also additionally uh do you
all have the pictures for the LED sign that I want to mention about the progress that we're making with that lesson yes I can so um at the February 10th community redevelopment agency meeting where you all reviewed a proposal for
the excuse me for the purpose of an LE sign and this is helping to replace the existing port city hall there are a few questions that's research that was regarding city ordinance compliance as well as safety issues so we looked into
that um FDR said we outside the rideway so we don't have to being processed through that there's electrical at the site so that's a plus as well so like purchasing a site it's up to $25,000 threshold to have to go
through the competitive bidding process and it falls within the um city ordinances regarding salaries which is going to be 34 feet 36 feet is I'm sorry 34 feet 36 is what is allowed and then
the size 15t by three and the allowed is 35t so an update is that we've uh we've been diligent for the past say four months trying to make certain that we comply with FDOT with uh uh the planning
and zoning and also with pricing we've had at least 10 different uh quotes but we finally found what is economical for our city and as uh individuals come from the bridge down you'll see what this
video to welcome you there's a part of the sign that will be founded but the rest stop we can put all kind of message there and the county uh has been excited about this project as well because they're also going to put some of their
messages on there as well so this is a good project just able to turn giving us uh Mr yes yes mr
eddie works with me extensively to bring this Mr thompson's here as well yeah he's here okay okay okay there we go so we all of us work together this is a win for our city
well I'm going let you take the lead on this but between my car myself and Mr board has assisted them we came up with a a wonderful opportunity that gives Morice back to the community city of Pala uh through conversations and and we
came up with a new program that we to start at 10:30 to 2:30 uh with the stuff start at the train station and ending at the train station at 2:30 um again they want we're just very thankful to see the
service restart and this is in response direct response to the commissioner's desire during the budgeting process and we're staying within budget we're not given any more than what we were allowed thank you everyone for working so
diligently on this we really appreciate it hank Brian Park is completed just wanted you to be aware that Hank Bryan Park do we have a picture it's actually completed there it is have the bathrooms that have the uh you know the water
fountains and uh so this finally maybe two hours but it's done and just wanted the commission to know that we followed your request and we did complete it chamber and we've approved the exception
okay for the system sorry it's new system um it'll actually we're going to be getting rid of the the microphones um because if you look up in the ceiling and you see those four dots they're recording right now as well um and
they're picking up sound so that's why we did some feedback we're still trying to work on the film we're trying to do over here to play with it a little bit um but it's coming together and we waiting on one more camera so we can do the dual picture right now if somebody
was to stand at the podium the camera would automatically go to them if one of you guys thinking the camera's going to go back to y'all so if you So in the future hopefully this camera will come in we've been waiting for it um it'll
split so if commissioner is having conversation with person both talking to each other instead of this is what we've been working on yeah so this is what we've been working on and trying to make it a lot better for
everybody involved including zoom land exactly also uh with Peter uh Peter you want to say something with uh Peter's assistant we've been working diligently for about four months three to four months and finally we do have the
cloud-based phone system we have selected AT&T I believe it was yeah we excuse me we went with the picture go ahead we went with AT&T um through the Florida Department Management
Services lots of money state completely state-of-the-art uh we had to do it because of the ex separate our phone system present we have now which is basically police department we had to separate from from the police department servers and it's a
win-win for every so the state of Florida contract we don't like there is no contract this month we don't like it we can do it next so basically what we have now is a better we will have a better phone system we will also be able to change
the names we can't do that now uh additionally uh the state of Florida will be in control of managing the quality of the service and if if they do not provide it well state of Florida will get in and handle it so this is a
much better that we should be safe another um like internal report to let you understand about one of the other benefits to this is that every single employee who has a phone can now have their own telephone number yes
it's just a lot of benefits and that's the last comment I did want to talk about that land project uh you all asked that you allowed us $200,000 we were able to complete the entire project for like 100,000 and so and also we you know
4,000 patrol order meters and there is no lag no lag no lag no lag no lag exactly big zero lag zero lag and our report has been submitted to the copy
so I just want to thank the commissions again for believing in us thank you again thank you we do commission I can't we are on the uh town and we have
very spec so we don't want to have town hall meetings and not do anything so I just want you to know that we are committed to implementing programs that will help our youth members and again thank you
any questions i have a question and this is an information question u my wife and I were driving across the bridge and u saw the my wife and I was No I have to
rephrase anyway go ahead go ahead Commissioner the uh the army man that's on both sides of the bridge left and right and as well as West Bridge uh who's responsible for
those anybody know yes yes sir that the the county we take part both half and half we try to help uh the point is to we don't clean them as much because of the bronze that they're made of the more you clean them the worse they look believe it or not but we do get out there and we dust them
off and we try to clean them off the best we can what's your concerns they look bad and they need to something need to be done to them because you're doing all the beautifification i think to pay to
service women agreed back to be paid attention okay i will make sure we contact the county and get involved thank you great things i just don't want something like that be overlooked we'll have nice well lit LED sign that's probably going to light that area up a
little bit more it's going to look good thank you the age that is correct to you know it's kind of like the cemetery there's no damage done to do it very carefully cleaning products to actually damage it at this age so we try to come up with
alternative methods but we'll work on it sir thank you comments open to fellow comments we do have some comments please be respectful first we're going to start with
Mr and just your city of residence there i know you ask Vicers 207 North 18th Street Palaca Florida 32177 i want to discuss some issues that we have here in
black in the past few years that could have been avoided had people act when we have a police force that's dis people that disrespect you when you have five to
eight police cars as somebody comes up and shoot somebody and the police that's just police say that I'm talking about that because the first one happened I was outside observing the
police across the street and the government of Florida pass ordinance on or something 25 ft away from your vehicle because nuisance and you could be fined for A man from Facebook said you wait and he
could hit across the street and said nothing because of that the next time eight police cars over there the man walk with automatic weapon on his shoulder
right in front of the police and shot other people disrespectful what I'm trying to get to is that we as a people have to do something and it can't be done noise outside is not tolerable we
don't tolerate that it's a law saying that you don't do it if I call for help they say they don't do it because that's your private property we don't take private property problem do you want to move the people to tell shut down and go home is that correct answer sir anybody
want to answer that to me today or tomorrow whatever we will answer any we'll provide some responses after your question after we get through everybody that's just how until tomorrow then no no no no no it it will be quick there's not a lot of public comments i was
talking about these kids died because somebody didn't do their job twice and I'm looking right at it when it happened i'm stand outside i have witnesses standing outside when the shots went off i'm talking to the guys who had their music playing and he shut
it off at the time he closed the music and all the shots started across the street the police didn't come they called nobody to come to take no people to the hospital they were transported in other people vehicles the next was nobody came up
there's something wrong is going around here because people dying and said right there have a comm communication to the fire department out to the rescue department they're comforted here i heard the police chief say that oh we going to we
going to meet them on the way there and we'll transform the rest that's a waste of time thank you thank you Mr clark accountability is important to me nobody's person don't try to flip the
script and make my reaction to exist when when your actions one back it took me 20 months to get an answer to a public information do not have no sale document of my
business i told y'all documents where I was in that building y'all brought the police up here to make it seem like I wasn't in that building i got five a fire station fire chief up here right
now he can show you I was in that building i walked in with this and I walked out of him with nothing so it's dead wrong for what's going on everybody just sit up here every time I come in here nobody don't want to say
nothing about the situation if the city can commit fraud commit crime and y'all ain't going to hold him accountable for how y'all think the city going if the city going to be right and to follow up with what Mr vick said I
was one of them people that drove that man to the hospital before he died so it's like y'all want to hold us accountable but y'all don't want to hold yel account so now what are you going to do
knowingly knowing that your city committed fraud knowing that y'all gave my business away knowingly I got $100,000 worth of equipment it ain't even none of you it's no gold rush one register with
some business it's no EI number for that business and they have no LLC on that business but y'all transferred my ownership over to
me but y'all holding me accountable for what y'all so We going to be fair or we just going to have silence about this the whole time i don't really think so i walked in
this business reg y'all know I come down here and take $100,000 worth of y equipment I'm going jail I can't f the police report because the chief
department that's a conflict So do I have rights or Thank you Mr m duke of Florida seems like such a minor thing hey even turned in a card i just
wanted to get it um find out if you have a kind of update on the splash town that y'all were talking about doing on the riverfront and you know where it is i I know there's been so much going on and I know that's not a major thing but I just
wanted to know if there's any updates thank you thank you and we will move on to commission and staff responses to any of these issues brought up oh wait a minute excuse me is there anybody else here for public comment on general items non-specific to
the agenda seeing none we'll close public comment and move on to commission and staff response thank you um as it relates to flashback we have uh been in the midst
of securing uh quotes we do actually have quotes that are within very close to the amount that was budgeted for this year which was 375,000 um we are having to evaluate moving
forward even though we have quotes that are reasonable uh primarily uh some of the pitfalls that have been brought up is um do we need to deal with other matters like help assisting homelessness
prior to putting the splash pad there uh so there are some issues definitely or concerns that we're following up on but we have uh the quotes now we have been investigating and we will soon understand how to move forward so that's
what flash had as relates to Mr request would you like to address a part of that please sure there was the comment that it's taken 20 months to respond the public records request this would have been during the time frame
that I was handling all the public records requests for the city this particular request that Mr clark is referring to was made on January 25th of last year it was for the applications regarding the trespass warning that he received the response uh and the
acknowledgement the public record request was made that very same we have the trespass warning as a responsive document we not the city is not in possession of any documentation regarding the allegations that brought the trust so we
cannot produce the document that we don't so that that is the situation with that i don't think we have been fully compliant with responding to the public property request as as it relates to any sale documents there are no sale documents that we have
in our possession and also just so point of clarification the city does not have the authority or the right to transfer anyone's business the city cannot do that what the city does is extend the
privilege or right to operate a business at a particular location and that is done through the department of planning and it is called the BTR or you know what that means is the business tax
receipt so that's the only thing that the city really can do we don't we're not able to transfer ownership of property uh we have met many times with Mr clark and to try to help with the circumstance ultimately it does appear
um that he may need to seek counsel but we've done as much as we can understand at this point and and um Mr vickers was the first to come up chief Shaw Again good evening Mayor and Council uh
as it pertains to Mr vickers and the incident that occurred on his property uh I think you all are all aware that we've discussed this multiple times Mr vicker's account was not totally accurate um and we've had conversations and meetings with Mr victors on it they
came up with different solutions that uh we've talked about not only with him but with you all in here and we haven't had a call back for service at his place of business to where we've had anything that caused any issues uh again with Mr bakers um as it pertains to the evening
of um Chris and the account that he displayed as far as the individual carrying the rifle that is not necessarily true he did not pass in front of the officers with a rifle on their shoulder and the officers did not
stand by and watch the incident occur i think there's multiple videos going around showing the officer taking action uh not only when the shooting occurred but then also rendering aid to the victim that was on the ground
um not I can go into that because that is still an open investigation but um again we we we offer him to come in and sit down with us and if he has issues any new issues that have arose then we're willing to address and take care
of it again this is the first time we've heard Mr vict since the last time he walked in and uh provided similar accusations uh again to you all and we attempted to talk to him that time we actually met Mr vict agreed to work with
him hand in hand on some teen activities that he was looking to put together so I'm kind of uh just kind of caught off guard on the issues that he's brought up again and not sure why we are continuing to bring them back up after we've already
addressed them multiple times thank you and public comment is is ended sorry no you can't no no sir no sir please stop please no public comment is closed public comment is closed i'm
sorry is there any any permission comments yeah I have comment uh lady asked about the splash pad and I have question about it as well because we know about the funding it was allocated for the splash pad downtown on
the riverfront uh and conversations have commenced my question to you u city manager um what why would it be a issue if both projects is going on simultaneously we know we do have a
homeless uh uh situation that we're dealing with throughout the community uh but I'm not understanding funding is not coming from the same place for both of those projects and also there was a made mention that Splashpad could be covered
by some private public partnerships which I actually had a phone call today about uh what's the status because uh people wanted to help with it but we haven't had an update so um I don't want that to
impede the traction that that project have to to to put it on the back burner because that's something that I think the community is getting behind it's just a matter of where we want to put it and I think we should ask the neighbors that's uh
downtown businesses where they would like to see it and what to what capacity so if we involve them in this process I think it'll move along quite swiftly uh we'll take that your recommendation and we'll move with that we did start
that process we had begun to meet with the businesses in that downtown district uh not only that I did have public works as well to meet with the county because they have a splashback we wanted to
understand the recurring maintenance care uh we I think we got a good understanding of that at this point we know what the u possible difficult part of putting it together and we're still pursuing that
so we're not going to stop we'll move forward and at the next um agenda meeting commissioner meeting we'll give a better update a more detailed update great on the flashback any other commissioners have any
comments i just had a comment to pick it back off Commissioner Jones uh but in terms of like moving forward with that he said that um there are some um community partners uh who want to do the um public private partnership with the city to u in regards to the
um the splash pad maybe set up an account to where it's to so so that they can contribute to that specific thing and so if there's funding that's available that we can collect and it's
dedicated to that particular project um you know we need to start engaging this as soon as possible and keep everybody in the loop commissioner Davis okay thank you um we're going to go on to the consent agenda any of the items need to be
removed from the consent agenda i do have a question i would like to P and Q okay anybody i'd like to call M any else any else
i would like to make a motion that we approve all items except M P and Q we have a motion do we have a second a second all in favor i any opposition
thank you mim had a copy right 1900 street black Florida uh the MU with the uh Palaka Athletic League uh midway through their basketball season
had captain agreements for the rest of the Um but also Thank you Mr cartwright um specifically I noticed in theou it says that um the city staff will be responsible
for opening and closing the gym and I'm assuming one is running away is there a plus in terms of this employees is there a plus normally
it would uh but this one time thing the Reno fails and Courtney James decided that they would kind of come in and kind of help with the facility that just I guess we call it kind of um but also most of the time the program that we had going on we had also had another program
going on the same okay I'm concerned about the inind we have to talk about that because I want to make sure if the city is going into thisou and we are agreeing to them that We're providing city status i think
we have some liabilities or something i'm not sure i will direct that to our city attorney um and this is a one time yeah that's so I noticed in the it says one year so
this is really where I pulled it to i didn't understand the date it says the term of this agreement is one calendar year commencing on February 8 2025 and ends on March 20th 2025 like sounds well it was the it was
the calendar of basketball season that they had so actually the program is actually over now as we speak so it was just because So this is a request for one game well this was request this thisou was created way before the commission but it was the first time we
could break it to you on the commission it kind of let you know hey what was going on in the Okay so What I'm going to ask is for direction from our city attorney so this contract has been reviewed we do
have a indemnification clause on the liability issues is worked into theou was that your primary concern so one calendar year commencing February 8th through March 20 yeah that's a scrier's error i mean it obviously
That's really is that March 20th 2026 commencing now for the next year okay so okay thank you but I do want to address the question my other question
is that is allowed to income volunteer volunteer come on maybe let me correct you it's not an incind what we did was we kind of worked that schedule around
cuping that time off to them or flexing that time to where they can so if they come in on the weekends they want to leave early and go to week just to cover that thank you using current city policies yes yes thank you the kind was I apologize no worries thank you i appreciate it i don't have any further
questions so for clarity and I think you hit on what I was going to ask once you open it up so instead say for instance that the hours on Saturday would that be a Friday taking off and you work
Saturday well we would give them an opportunity to kind of pick long as in the work calendar week pay period to what time they want to take off most of the time they will take off early on Friday or they come in late kind of complex thank you go ahead i'd like to
Okay so I may not be going down the right path Commissioner but I will say this we recently approve a policy so we are just we want to state that whatever occurs it follows
current city policy for employees regarding compound eligibility and follow that full process that's the point I want to make and thank you so if I'm understanding
correctly Commissioner Davis we're saying if there is a programming you you scheduling there it's programming so that mean you have programmed work hours for that time so if you already know that there's going
to be games that should be work schedule versus it's going to be extra and additional hours because that's an additional cost yes and I just want to make sure that that we're clear and we send it in this meeting so that there won't be overtime and cut time occurring
for a program that Yes okay great any additional questions do we have any motion mayor I move that we approve theou witha athletic league to use the gym at Jenkins for basketball with the
correction of the date in the second we have a motion to second um I'm not second first but Jones yes i would like to state they did not vote for this one just because I came in
but two I serve on the board elected athletically so I want to make that transparent yes you just have to fill out fill out form ladies and gentlemen i pulled it and I want to know why are
we again that goes into the links we have the mag come out and hold a meeting have code enforcement go out and enforce these violations and then we come back and we write it off
please help me understand no go ahead so along the questions of um Commissioner Jones what I'd like to know before you answer the question is I noticed in this report I believe it
says that you're to based on expenses is that correct meaning you the city has already um obtained
4,466 for this L and is the request for the one question overall we want to know has the city recovered fee to recover the cost of the city no I can go ahead well I'm going to let Miss Miss Miss West answer the 400 4,000
some of the recovery cost of the the money that we put in to demo the property 704 72 olive was a lean of $10,000 that some violation bright and bright team and
myself kind of determined that the property was in compliance but with the violation that was on there and the determination of staff admin fees and everything down to 25 that is history with most of the
properties that we have done over the last and here is actually look beautiful the beautiful gem that y'all had when I was growing up so that's our main hope to bring that to help people encourage them to
keep their property fixed or get property so the 702 olive was a $10,600 five fee that accumulated that we brought down to 2500 the 704 olive was a piece of property burnt piece of
property that the city had to demo that we are trying to get so the that um amount the $4,46 actually stems from an abatement proceeding that was brought in
2013 those are the funds in addition to that are basically trying to um what I wanted to know was I was looking for photos of being compliant when the last time you went seen that
property because I saw the property yesterday well see in compliance with the violations that was on the property at the time we have to go with that first we cannot add any violations to the current violation or or the the code for
the board that did it back in 2000 if I'm correct [Music] 13 yep so we have to go with that first now we can initiate new violations the new claims on it and it probably does have that on there but right now we only
can release the one that we have in current violation that and my mindset is if if I apply for a lean
reduction I would cons if I had violations back and I'm asking for reduction at least should be in compiance today when it's coming to the board it's not in
comp and that's to to that is what we bring to the uh the uh the applicant that you understand but what we can do is don't case on it but we can't you have the right to come in and apply for a lean reduction if the compliance is
the violation that he had at that time that bought him so we got to honor that first now we can add more charges to him new charge not more new charges to him to this but that's a separate case that's a separate hearing that's a
separate time that we have to run so this he asked to remove this current violation now again the commissioner you have the right to do that uh but we as the city code enforcement and the bright
team if I come in and have justification this applicant indicated that they might be attending by Zoom so really quick I just wanted to check if you had anyone in you know All right thank you Chucky so it won't be fair to kind of
ask you but um the question is when the last time have we as the code enforcement know the last I'm just going to say I saw it i was over there because I went I wanted to know why they in compliance and if I'm not mistaken is
that the house that burned or not there's a house next to it that burned yes well I don't know about next to it but this house is not actually a 702 and 704 uh 70 74 was the one that burnt that's the one we're trying to recoup
the demolition and the bait process that city did back 72 it's still like it and again we are we are aware of that and we also have actually a current case audit but we had to he asked for to close this case
okay yes I'm not friendly to having the city to have to go back out if we reduce if we move to reduce this fund and then that completes what was already in the pipes and now if the new case is
initiated then we got to go back out and we got to do this whole thing all over again so I'm not friendly to having to reduce anything we got to go back so I mean but we got to come to the vote
that's my position on it and I think like y'all was saying the active the code enforcement that should have already been on radar in terms of from the time that it was in violation to now but see these
violations occur before our president our staff these are back in 2012 2013 so we don't have enough evidence to fight for that same case best thing we can do is start a new case on these properties and the only way we the best thing to do
is to close out this one and then move forward with new cases again we can continue to leave it at the 10,6 because it was closed out in the system at 10,600 we can then and force them to pay that or and then come back again with a
new reduction or we can give them this and then have them take accountable that we're bringing up excuse me Commissioner so let me let me just kind of go back to basics when I'm reading the staff
report everything that occurred it occurred with the prior owning yes so I want to state that yes we have a new owner and the new owner has applied for the land reduction correct my understanding correctly
that while the house is not up for code or or these items in other words we want to know that well I think you said it we cannot do anything else on this process
from a or is this a true statement this is a question I'm asking from a code enforcement perspective we can't put codes on top of this is one case we're trying to close this case yes and fellow commissioners
and you'll open a new case because the house is still not compliant most of the time in in the lean reduction process here we we we aware of the house still needs work the new owner has gave us clear evidence that he is going to make
sure bring that into um fully sub okay but as Chris right here we can't add no more violations to this case this case has been closed out of enforcement
okay thank you Commissioner Campbell i want us to be mindful of the conversation that we had previous where um a lot of stuff was up there too and in order for us to get to a place where we are kind of been able to move forward this is why a lot of this has come
before us this is not the first time that we've had anything with regards to code enforcement come before us we've actually had an extensive conversation with regard to entire list of requests but the request from my
understanding from those conversations was to allow us to get to a place where we're closing out all of the old stuff so that we can focus on the new stuff that required us going back out we can't fault this team we have to follow the
team that was there because they got to that allow to get to this point so Mr when it comes to notify especially if they're owner that exposed that particular propert the new owner purchase that
property you get everything that comes with it yes that's correct right whether it's leans whatever they own it they got it so why should the city have to reduce the lean
when you consciously purchase the property in some way the conditioning and the state that's Thank you for the clarification Commissioner Campbell so my request is
in the future Mr cutright if items that you're asking for a lean release on fall into the category of cleanup it would be helpful to me if we just can state that that there
may be some things with it but this is part of the clean up and the things may come i'm just saying for me and I also want to clarify when staff comes with recommendations for lean releases I am friendly to them but I
just now that I have had that some of this is still coming that would be very helpful a clear picture for me of things that may fall into that category and and explain
also in short term that the benefit to the city may be greater by release than continue thank you i have one closing because I started it was my Okay um Commissioner War is spot on people
this that's that's the game that's being played right now people are buying these properties sight unseen they know what the condition is if we're going to be if we're going to come in and they know that the leans leans will be washed away
$2,500 but they're still not in compliance i cannot I cannot say yes or feel any remorse for a person who still haven't cleaned up that property that's not right that's not fair to the neighbors that's not fair to
a person who keep their yard clean and their property clean um and I I took a picture but I had my city phone i bring it in here if you see it you know it's not in compliance and nobody have worked on that property so rather we talk about
cleaning up the old books i understand cleaning up the books but I don't understand giving everybody a pass and that's where I'm at commissioner can I gohead so that we end this and not make a decision
a hasty decision I make a recommendation that this be table given the opportunity for the individual who is now the owner to make some type of adjustments to the property so that we can see that they're
making an attempt and then bring this back to us at a different meeting instead of us denying or accepting it this would allow the city to be in a position to say "Hey tell Siri I'm talking right now." But it would give us the opportunity to give
them the ability to make content because I hear everyone's concerns and I believe everyone's concerns are valid and then if it's going to save us an opportunity from having to go back to start a new
case which I get ultimately that may be the thing that's going to happen but at least have a conversation with that property owner and safety and police to take consideration chess may I speak now yes you now I I I
truly understand that I will do what the commissioner's wishes are uh the only concern that I have is if we do not continue to bring these lean reduction and give them opportunity to buy to clean this property up a lot of your leans are excess of 50 to $70,000 and
you want this per you want this properties to be cleaned up you're going to have it hard for people to come in and try to buy these properties to clean them up with that kind of levy sign this gentleman bought the property in January in the process of pulling
properties to fix the property he has not but he has started a dialogue with us about this propert so that's where I'm at and I have no problem with one black jump and
this organization and trying to see how I think in order for us to be fair and concerns going back to Commissioner Davis request when these things come before us identifying them as clean up I
think be critical and vital but prior to bringing it to us making sure that if it is clean up that there is some type of consideration for the property before it comes to us because again it's kind of
far to please all followers but in order to compromise and get and to make sure that everyone's voice is heard just take these things into consideration prior to that again I'm not commissioner Davis I'm not I'm not saying that I'm against
if it's going to help us and aid in our efforts to get to city but We also got to take consideration case by case basis and if it's something that if we need to build proy that's something that we take
consideration instead of going by the whim and if there are checklist that we need prior to that before it comes to the commission saying this we can be fair in the process understanding that theation of how many
clean up we have before how many how many pro how many lean reductions that we have you trying the housekeeping aspect cleaning well see these are housekeeping the ones we did last commission meeting was housekeeping those errors scribbles errors that was
found that should have been found these are ADG case that are open because they have fines once somebody purchased the property That's when they become on our radar we know they're there but we can't do anything because the the original property owners have went away and left
with just abandoned the ALC groups that said that from North Dakota said they're not going to do anything we got in there when they somebody knew about the property and want to fix it up that's when that come when I read up so that was not a cleanup to a
certain extent it was a violation that was on the books that once somebody purchased the property now they came owners of it and they came to us and let us know said we have a $10,000 fine on this they said they want to clean it up but they want to apply for a lean
reduction on that and then don't tell us to bring the propert so they were aware we when they purchased it via title search that this lean was off so I put my hand commission Davis I'm looking for direction because
what I heard commissioner Campbell say was he recommended to this motion a recommendation of city In light of what I've heard when I'm thinking about what we're talking about what's the ultimate goal
is we want these properties to be restored and to be in compliance so what I hear in this case is evidence that this particular property there's a goal towards working to
that so I am not friendly to pushing this down the road i'm friendly to approving it tonight based on what I've heard from Mr cutright and here's the additional
explanation commissioner B i want to be clear that I am for whatever is going to be right and again and I'm all in favor of lean reductions but it has to meet some form
of criteria it has fallen outside of that criteria we got to set standards somewhere so we're constantly moving things around we just revalid our code enforcement we we we made policy as it
relate relates to code enforcement and how we operate so you hit the $10,000 mark we have people who may have gone out and purchased property that didn't know that leans was on this property or they might know you don't know what
people do behind the scenes in order to get re reduction leans leans reduced but I'm not into all that i'm into what we approved we worked on it very hard when we had our former city manager here and
he's in the audience now so again and we did an awesome job of putting that together all of us so we can't keep moving the mark as we so choose because we're doing a we're doing a disservice to everybody else who have come before
the commission some have been denied i remember another property on the 700 block that we denied a person who wanted a lean reduction and they were out of out of out of out of out of county but they had property here and we sent a message to
say no you're out of county we have property that's that's below the standards we need you to get them up that's what we're here to do I think it was a 50% reduction cap correct It's going to be done
we did it right here that was a the 50% portion of the lean reduction application the same one that Mahome Mr holmes and myself and everybody did with Miss Val it's the same one we're using
now 50% is the start we reduce the property down if the property if the violation is more than the property itself we come down to the property value and then we don't finish the sale so what is the property value Mr cut right i think it's like 20 20,000 so
we're we're within and then we have questions that they answer on ship to make it bring it down a little bit more to where we deem to be either admin fees or a price and that's what we've been doing so the same policy we've been three or four years ago the same we've
been doing now is just that this one right here because of the simple fact that this person bought it in January he applied for a lean reduction they try to it's corporation i won't say person it's corporation and they want to do a lean reduction but it's not totally in
compliance with the way it looks but it is in compliance with the violations that was on it back in 2012 so that's the question the violation in 2012 and 2015 when the code enforcement put this stuff in
place is not the same violations that we seeing today so those have been remediated and again we're talking about that situation as going forward from there and we also I understand there is
concerning operations had to break the sign that it was a corporation but invest in our community and you know So we have to keep that balance do do we have a time frame that they
will bring it in compliance like a date normally when we do the lean reduction we give them 90 to 120 days to come in and pay the fact also bring the property into some type of compliance unless it's permanent needs to be pulled then they have the permanent expiration date to come into i can be friendly
to dates that we know that we can go back and check if they have compliant with the the city over i'm good with that okay go ahead would you like to make a motion Commissioner Davis please i move that we
accept the recommendation to release the land for 702 Olive Street we have a motion we have a second second second all in favor question but and my question was do we have the motion with the dates in there that's my
question the motion wasn't made so once you release the lean it's released we can't reinvoke it okay thank you so we have a motion a second all in favor i
opposed okay 32 in favor released a clean 456 street Mr okay that property right there back in 2007 they failed to pull a permit to do additional two I'm assuming
to something they closed in the car in 2012 2013 in the agency we noticed the code enforce um the property we had a picture in there but I apologize the property is in good you
can't tell what was done to that was the point department to do that extra work so what we decided as the code enforcement in the community black to white team was to grant the reduction at the price and we started out as 45,000
and he say you the permit they pull it was it was a violation for not pulling the permit back in 2007 to do some interior closing in the garage like they clos in the garage in the property now it looks like it looks like every other piece of property
on national okay any further comments no and again goes back to the question of the permit the violation was this if we see other violation then that's a whole another case that we have to start
but we can't add any more violation to this case because the voting appointment back in 2012 2013 closed with the f and fees of that and that predates i'll make a motion that we move forth
with the release of lean for this property i'm familiar with that and I'm looking at the picture now it's in compliance so that's a motion to second all in favor i any opposition thank you ordinance regular business ordinance on
speed and fraction program first reading that makes sense no we're not no recents thank you mayor you got the call we brought the presentation to you on
school school school zone safety uh the house bill 67 was passed by the Florida legislation and sub subsequently signed into law by governor Santis on May 31st 2003 this authorizes municipalities to operate speed detection devices with
four speed limits to handle any schools throughout the entire day and aim to enhance the safety of students and fast serving speeding schools it provides safety for children and encourage drivers to adhere to speed limit and drive cautiously by changing
hazard that reason we want to bring for you we have put in the pipes for you uh ordinance for the city to be approved and begin to forward questions
okay do we have a motion yes um mayor I move that we approve ordinance 2025-10 first reading second motion second all in favor any opposition thanks
policy funding funding request you want to take that one i'm going to ask city attorney sure i believe this is the second time this is before the commission this was
basically establishing the policy for the commissioners to consider as they make funding recruitments organizations that come with question i will as soon as I can
you want me to read the whole No not of why you think you're proposing this actually this was a request of the commission sure
uh sure the the policy basically um requires that all funding requests be submitted to the city clerk's office it needs to be in writing they have to include a detailed description of money for the amount request um they have to
basically outline the budget of how those funds will be allocated if they're awarded they have to send profit status as with um as the IRS they have to help documentation demonstr It was project specifically targeting
the city of what appeared to be a consistent request from commissioners and funds also project and so basically um with party's guidance uh based on her previous experience with other
municipalities we need to get those requests in place by first starting budget possibly would be and fund so that's going to
exped going to be requesting money and if I may add the primary intent was to have money set aside during the budgeting process for nonprofits uh what it would do it would give us x amount of
dollars also it would uh allow the commissioners to have a day during the budgeting process to hear from the various nonprofits that want uh funding from the city uh I'm certain that what
we can also do is consider and during the contingency for practice during the course of the year that did not come during the uh budget just have some time set aside for for presentation yeah emergencies or things that occur
throughout the year that we cannot foresee okay commissioner B yes and the only other thing that I had asked was to uh on the every year basis or we do we did we rotating years how how
I believe we do have that in there because you did that in there yeah because there was a there was a there was a request to make sure that we put rotating ears in there and not have because otherwise we'll be the
student will be budgeting for nonprofits that is not taxed yes sir so if there is a motion to approve it would be with that correct okay so prohibited
organizations that we cannot give money to this so this is all 100% within the discretion of the commission uh what was sought were simply guidelines so there was consistency so the public had an a better understanding
of what you were looking for and you held a set of criteria by which to everyone to the same benchmark but if you don't want a particular applicant or don't like a particular project you do not have to put in your I just want to know do it contains any
um exceptions now no written not as written it does not it only refers to nonprofits and 501c3 organizations as part of the no illegal organizations they still have to comply with state law
right any questions we just have somebody for public comment miss Kitchen Kitchens 1027 South 12th Street Harbor on page one of this under eligibility criteria a nonprofit status the last par the last sentence of that
paragraph says the city shall not consider funding request for nonprofit corporations which fund or religious institutions religious institutions are a nonprofit and you just funded not a week ago two weeks ago $25,000 for the homeless shelter that the Presbyterian
church are doing at Westminster home so when you exclude religious institutions and they are nonprofit and they do help the community first amendment discrimination against religious institutions and you're creating a bias
against the or religious institutions are there and they as nonprofits should be allowed to apply thank you yes no yes never mind well it's on an item we can discuss well we can discuss it but we're not going to question this
kitchen we can discuss it clarify something but it's okay um may I say something yes you may please okay um looking there was a reason for the religious prohibition is the 13th
amendment of church and state so that's why it was in there right is the exact opposite maybe we should address Can you say what you just said louder please sure sure the the reason that that was put in there that
particular last line in the eligibility criteria was so that you wouldn't immediately church and state funding which is a prohibition under the 13th amendment so this was actually trying to comply and also to clarify the shelter
currently operating at Westminster right correct just to clarify the shelter yes that's run by It's operated by 501c3 but they lease space from the church well I I know when a request came from
the church or the affiliate of the church or some part of the church perhaps 5013c there was a consment that came up and said that we shouldn't give the money to the church and if so we were going to have to give
it to all churches so I just it seemed like the the change and and I don't know that's something that's something that we do need to research further and make certain that you know we draw a line of
sand we need to have spelled out up front before we run into that because uh there's religious institutions that have 5013C's right are we going to run into that so the reference and I I want
commissioner Jones seek clarity point of clarification that the organization that came before us we referenced attempting to get to the church which they didn't want even if they were operating on the out that particular um
facility or that particular entity was not the following C3 so that's the reason why we were not able to give uh directly to them because we were not giving giving to a nonprofit organization so so again the question of where would
where would the separation and I think that we need to actually have that answer when when it comes to us I'm not saying right now but I think it's time to get in front of it then we need clarity on I don't think
it'll come before if if it's not able C3 they will not be able to presentation that's from to make recommendations to us so we'll go through that process that's that's great that's that's great but again the question is it's not a
question is that 5013C's do exist in churches yes so if there's a question which I think you just need to explain it to me because I I got lost when you you made a
statement about church and state and the separation thereof and you that last paragraph mentioned can you clarify what address so this this policy would limit the uh
allocation of funds from the city commission taxpayer funds to not forprofits only with no religious institution affiliation so if you want to change that wording that's something that you do research on this was
something in compliance with our constitution that's what you said um I would like to ask just give us a moment to look at this one more time yeah i'd rather we take I want to have a conversation with the city attorney for
clarity on on just something I just heard just then yes so do you want to speak to Yeah just to just to clarify what I was understand affiliation with with church affiliation and what about
association because like you said and associated people who operate with inside the church have that so we need to just throw all those things out and that's exactly why I would prefer to table this place and give me an opportunity to meet with city attorney a
little bit more specifically related to that mayor Madame Mayor I move that we table uh the item approving the policy for not for profofit funding second motion second
i Any opposition thank you hearings ordinance 20251 resing property at the intersection of St avenue single family residential family
residential first Mr mayor Commissioners good evening this is a request uh to resone a property uh which is approximately of
423 acres it is at the inter town with the planning development request to go through R3 which is a multi residential and with an
overlay yeah the intent of the development is that I mean the intent of the request is to develop CTA down which will be connect for the services by the city this was reviewed by the planning
board on January 7 2025 uh the staff is recommending approval of this item the reasoning and the DUD and to the recommendation i just wanted to
point out that uh as this afternoon we finally reached a development agreement with the developer of the agent and I wanted recommendation there were some conditions attached to the approval those condition have been satisfied have
been included in the development agreement so our recommendation is just straight up okay on the representative tab yes yes is there any questions do we have any questions good evening don Holmes 22 North Third
Street Florida representing the applicant owner i'm happy to answer any questions that you might have if I can able to cons your staff been very helpful very cooperative
relationship not just also developing planific fun the applicant is uh hopeful and has attempted diligently to come up with a project that she feels there's a Martin
form you have a lot of projects in county this applicant um had been working diligently he felt there was a need to be addressed for providing nurses medical personnel at the hospital and doctors he tried to
bring a price point in of 200,000 and as we all know the construction world has been very volatile since part of this process months ago I don't pay anymore that was his original
aim at which the hospital medical facilities and um was it questions I'll do my best to answer I said planning commission unanimously approved and with staff um which has
been very cooperative again very helpful we've come up with a agreement that we've we have found acceptable mutual thank you questions for Mr public comment is there anybody here
for public comment on this item post public comment do we have a motion motion second all in favor i thank you 2012 establishing the
cypress unit yes ma'am that's the actually the development agreement that was handed to you outlines the putt uh conceptual terms of the putt so uh again the multif family designation so that we
can consider in front of you the development agreement actually outlines what's going to be involved in the plan in this conceptual as I said when you start that you have with your building
and your your uh building specifications and your codes some of this may not be able to come the same density or with the same exact footprint as as we have here certain certain requirements that you got but this is a conceptual
question thank you i have a question go ahead i think I just saw how many how many units are we talking hopefully 68 yeah so it said about 18 per uh acre
and it's four four acres 18 4.23 4.23 two three and I think what we said was like 72 like 72 but we're not going to we don't we know we don't have right so one of the questions and you you just really
hit on it uh and I think we mentioned it one time as a commission about we do zoning changes and then and get people interested then they don't follow through what are we doing Mr gumbo
uh about uh protections if folk we we go in and we we reszone these areas and then there's no dirt turn um do we have anything in place that we can revert it back to original uh zoning um in case
that happens or what what are we doing we could definitely encourage we could definitely attach a time frame in which they have to start instruction and instead they could reverse back to what it was before
that's necessary or not but I would I mean because we we're seeing this happen and even with the home some people they got a concept we see plans but nothing materialized and turn not saying to happen here but I'm
asking for future as as people come up and ask have these questions yeah the the only one that I'm aware of is the the develop that it has not started but it's not moving forward is the cottages which is just develop
and they have landed printing they have five infrastructuring but they're not moving along yet uh and that's the only one I'm aware of there were another one the Palaka apartments that's getting you
know very close to completion um and then we have the Mc Gloria Drive that approved very recently um they are closing permits right now for like for all the other facilities so that's moving
forward in close proximity of of the other apartments that's now kind of like at a standstill um and I know the studies have been out as far as uh the impact studies um that's a uh bit
congested area right there that's Ziggler St john's um and then another apartment complex next to the nursing home right there am I talking right area yes um would it be any impact in and out in
that area i'm quite sure it will but yeah well one of the consider that yeah one of the things that we put in the development agreement is the provision of a not a traffic study per se but a letter from the traffic engineer license in the state of Florida addressing you
know the deepest and deepest and the generational trips which being a stand out a lot of new troops that's going to be put on those roads but I'm sorry I'm sorry but is
part of the development agreement Well you know just just going that way to the school down there then we're going to have the Villa Farms uh development same road a lot of congestion and my my understanding
Commissioner is that there is sufficient capacity on the roads to to absorb development especially the the clients was taking into consideration this project probably would have affect that much that capacity
for development i just want to ask those question and I think you know when we're we're okay in the res and stuff i just Right no we're looking into those things you know that's part of our review yes absolutely right thank you Commissioner Bl yes i'm in agreement with
Commissioner Jones just mentioned about the the density the traffic and all that again the cottages was we we approved that like three four years ago uh and it's been sold since that time correct once yes yeah and so and it's
still not complete and again we would like to see when we do approve these projects putting those time um frames on them otherwise they revert back um to help get some dirt turned and um you know the city can move forward and not
be being held back we changing our zoning just to appease the uh pro conceptual projects and that's where we fail years past but we want to make sure
that we change the code to make sure we revert back of course I'll defer to your attorney but there's a difference between your zoning and your put zoning is something I don't mean to again if I say something that your city
attorney disagrees with I'm sure she'll speak up but zoning is something that is either appropriate or it isn't based upon the land use the location surrounding property uses and so forth they are three i also failed to mention that this project also went through
development review committee which uses required before it comes here so we met through DRCD development review committee we've been through planning commission and and now you're adding a lot of conversation with that so I would
suggest to you that R3 zoning is something that either is appropriate or it isn't you're planning to send DRC so then the question is unless that construction isn't done within 13 time my hope for this project is it
isn't quite so ambitious a project say 195 units on 16 acres i was here when that was submitted with all due respect that's an ambitious project that came from the quad flex concept as it was
first as it was first proposed with individual ownership of each of the quads um yeah I'm not a fan of that but uh in this market I had very hard time from day one seeing how that was going to be a real market concept
um more about that other than I drive by and look at all the dirt and all the trees taken down that's what this is a more less ambitious project construction right
um so I think and these are town houses and duplex uh configurations which I would suggest I would suggest is a marketable concept um there are a lot of folks who don't want a lot of house
especially if it's a single nurse or maybe it's not even short we had some I think that's probably going to continue this would be close to the hospital relatively uh easy maintenance for a homeowner and that's that was my
that was that is my honor my concept and had Thank you i'll step down i want to open the public comment is anybody think of public comment seeing close public comment we have a motion motion to approve second a motion to second all in
favor any opposition thank you thank you very much appreciate it ordinance 2025 yes thank you Madame Mayor commissioners this is a a request to annex uh a single family home property into the city for
the purpose of uh connecting to city water sewer uh most of the request includes a change the future linings from from the county u yeah from county reserve to the city
of palaka low residential license assignations and also resing from the py county single family R1A to the city of Palaka single family R1A uh this uh request has been reviewed
by the planning board planning uh on January 7 2025 and they are recommending uh approval of three request it is in complian with the Florida statute for the annation and it
meets all the requirement thank you is the applicant other representative here yes yes madam thank you you want to char good evening madame mayor and commissioners thanking Chase Barnes 101 Lisa Lane um as our plan
mentioned our contention is to announce to the city for the purpose of utilizing facilities folks thanks very happy to answer questions does anybody have any questions any questions i'm a lot of public
comments anybody have a public comment seeing none I'll public comment do you have a motion she had a question oh can you Did you say this already but because it's a single family home it only requires one reading or does this
require two readings no it requires two reading what it doesn't require two reading is the future line use amendment oh okay next one because it's a small scale yeah it's a it's a small scale plan amendment so only requires one hearing so when you we come back to the
second hearing it will only be for the annexation and the result thank you thank you okay so we commission second sorry all in favor i any opposition thank you
which is part of 254 amendment of the future land use map of the adoptive comprehensive plan in regard to property located 164 reserve city residential questions of
the not comment anybody have a comment post public comment motion second motion to second all in favor any opposition thank you on to 255 resell 25-5 be selling property located
164 county information does anybody have public comments public comment motion to approve second second all in favor say I i any
opposition thank you access okay so commissioners uh this ordinance is designed to address the affordable housing crisis this is an accessory dwelling unit ordinance that will allow dwelling units to be permitted in all single family districts
and other districts in the city um it's also the intent and the policies of this ordinance to create a regulatory framework that enclosures development to members of our community um as we mentioned a couple city
commission thank you any questions okay i want to open the floor to public comment anybody here have for public comment public comment do we have a motion
second motion favor any opposition thank you future link of the adopted complex plan in regards to property located from city of commercial residential love first
yes madame mayor commissioners uh this item has been in front of you quite a few times it's been pending since June of last year uh it is a small scale plan ability for three plan lots and to go
from commercial destination to a residential loan and to resolve the property from commercial one to residential one uh planning the planning board has reviewed this application and represent
our planning for both request back in their meeting on March 2024 uh over a year ago and uh staff has recommended approval in this requirement for this for the future line is
that we breaking the commission that you adopt the ordinance um 2024 72 Thank you you'd like to come please questions specifically of the
applicant um public comment this was in a scrimmage area that's what the lawyer come in say was a scrimmage propert when you move it to the back
really water that got no perce that this that's or I don't quite well I'll tell you I'mma break it down see GR
name was on it it's a violation of a city e on the back of this propert from the city or the counter but it's discriminary y'all have discriminator thank you Mr
clark um if does anybody want to speak to whatever well how can you how can how can you find this but you want me to come back i was asking you to go back to the please
Jonathan Griffin name on this it's a conflict he was the city manager when this happened it's major conflict it's waterheads on county property that nobody don't know about so was this prec is this pre that this was already
be done and once finished we'll try to address thank you Mr hall yeah madame commissioner there's no screams errors here uh the house that he's referring to went through the proper channels behind by the county was
approved by the city as well uh the water the water lines you know were also approved by the city so it's not ownership and you Thank you for public comments public comment do we have a
motion appears we don't have a motion perhaps the applicant would like to address the commission yes please come up uh Toby Mcwigan um Greg Co Springs Florida any more questions i mean I think I've kind of we've talked about
this for a year now so I don't really know what else to add to this perhaps you can tell us what the consequences are if we don't move forward now that everything has been resolved go ahead i have a question and
I apologize when I went to understand this the previous approvals we've given related to this can someone tie something together i I don't know that's what we're doing i I think I
wrote like a three-page timeline that kind of outlined where this whole thing started um the first approval was um split and um immediately and then we got a building permit and we built a house on
there and in order to get the house on there we had to move the utilities across the street and the city said it was our responsibility to take down we got it across the street that put it there
was three lots I don't know why the res didn't currently with the plants like it normally does but you know I mean I don't work here so I don't know but the plat was approved and the plat was
reported and then we tried to do the reszone and that's when everything kind of looked so this is that resone request again i'm going to make a motion for discussion i I move that we accept ordinance
24-08 thank you for that discussion the motion was second any further discussion well just for sake of discussion I think it's very important um
we the tendency on I can only speak for me is how we arouse and nothing that you It's just the way that we've gotten here and the level of transparency
um I if legal's good I'm we did put a great demand on the owners to prove uh otherwise um because the way that it came to us it did not it did not come to
us the way that is being presented to us tonight have two to three um need to be asked for an extensive um they get avail themselves um to comply with those things
um that's where a lot of the hesitency has this property and that's operating how it started and how it's completely completely different um so I think again
that's where quite a bit of the hesitancy um that's why it was pushed off that's why we had have to come before the commission until certain things were addressed so that's where a lot of the hesitancy with regards to this particular
Okay so again go ahead Commissioner yeah and my only hesitancy is because of um the whole nature of why we kept pushing it off because there were conflicts of entries associated with it if you break a glass you put that glass back together
again it's still different it's different you break mirror it's it's it's a broken mirror you can't it'll never be the same again so again we had an issue regardless of if regard regardless of a person is still um not with the no
longer part of that during the time the person was part of that which created the conflict division that's my issue we can move to vote on it and that's where I'm Thank you any Go ahead Commissioner Davis
um before we vote I'd like to ask Miss West can you talk to us about consequences of action or lack of action please yes uh and I have also detailed this in
an extensive legal memorandum so I I don't like talking about what I have already disclosed to you in a legal memorandum but there are consequences commissioner as you have pointed out um there is a potential risk that if you
proceed with a denial that it could be considered a private property rights taken under our car act that is one possibility so we have been very careful in meeting with the applicant the applicant's attorney city manager made
extensive requests for a timeline and also data but the involved in the previous are no longer involved with thisation to enforce the steps to provide new comfort
of mind knowing that if you today you are doing so but not approving also has potential consequences for the city thank you commissioner well I I I hear
the city attorney but um she say could um be but if the the thing with that is if if you have people not in this arena let's say five people went into a place and robbed
the place and those five people were identified as the people who went in and robbed the location well you got people say "Okay well I I I had the gun i had the car i had So
everybody who was part of that right so if you're part of something at that time you can't come back and say "Okay well now we clean it up we clean it up now this is no longer the case anymore we You've got the same property that was
initially dealt with during that time that's why we started the process in terms of pushing this thing out until the investigation was over the investigation is over the information is in the
report um we had the um January 23rd meeting of this year we had um&m the owners that came and spoke on that and so when they said that the
other person who used to be part of the project was was on there for a future so it all happened during that time so my thing is we can move forward with it if you like you just put
the vote on run the vote thank you so again um Commissioner it's only right that I say something and it's it's just to add what Commissioner B said it's it's
almost like fruits of ill got it's illgotten goods is how I see it um I think things were done inappropriately we had an investigation that revealed that and Toby you came up and you actually in your explanation you
indicated all those things you confirmed it and not and it's not on you but it's going to affect you and sometime that's what happens um and like commissioner K said that's a hesitancy uh nobody really
we have compassion for your position however I really think that We wouldn't be here if there wasn't basic like inside inside knowledge working knowledge that's that's not pain from
what I see what I've read and uh I think that in any litigation that bought forth that we could stand on the information that we were given the facts that were given and even to the point where I understand where Mr come from everybody
else probably don't and that's where water and sewer was already connected to us giving any okay from up here nobody addressed that uh not only that I think we were
misled in the beginning and that was an internal thing and so that's my point i wanted to be I'm not going to hide behind a choice i want I want the public to know the reason why I feel the way I do and if those reports what the public
don't have that we have is a report from an investigation which I really think that would clear it up where people would know that we're being transplant prepared and honest in this deal because if we're ever asked I think is supported by the documentation that was that was
presented thank you any further discussion commissioner D i I want to say this and uh I hear my fellow commissioners i hear everybody at the
end of the day we do our due diligence and again some of this I came into on obviously here on the back end um but part of that due diligence
decisions were made and I understand they will make with the information at that time i guess my question is um there some consequences to actions even though the
consequences may not be sufficient for some people and I don't know that we should be combining that with the risk I'm sorry we should compare that to the risk of the city and
moving forward with request so I do want to just say that um I'm going to want to say to writing the wrongs or writing the ills that previously had been and it it's
the word for it is clear there are some other things that kind of complicate it so it's obviously not black and white the carnivalist is clear but the is more we um in the person i get it so I just want to say that as well and clear
transparency from my perspective i always keep my eye on what's best for the city at this point and so that's really what I say so if we can consider that any further so we have a motion a second all in favor
um I I opposed n Thank you this um H ordinance 24-08 located on first
yeah just recommend approval oh yeah go ahead no I'm not you say it's connected i'm not I'm not speaking at all well you want Mr so moved second okay i'm going to open the floor of public comment mr
we have anybody else here we have a motion a second all in favor i oppose nay um okay thank you commissioners comments commission
I I normally try to sit back and meet with and try to address Mr clark in the stating that your voice is your voice
mirror that's the farthest thing from the truth personally your voice is definitely heard is it what you want to hear that this is the opportunity but
I'll be again set up and if I need to brains I will so that we can make sure that you feel that you so deserve it so any other person that comes in here I don't want you to feel as your voice or you're not
getting answer it may not be what you want to hear or desire to hear but your voice has been heard multiple times multiple occasions we're talking through any information so please I want you to move beyond being that your voice is not
heard and again if I commission matter I want to set up a meeting and I want to have city staff available so that I'm able to dive or help you dive or we both dive into it to make sure that we both have a vast
understanding of where where we were where we are and how to proceed if we are to proceed in a different way but again your voice I would like to extend happy birthday to my wife
okay the commission for that was finalized today with some immunity and I did not want to miss that um or I just did not want to miss that because it was connected to the youth but overall I would have been here but
thank you for me opportunity to the report to the commission commissioner any comments yes let's be mindful of how we address in
our because I want to welcome them to participate in Democrat part of legislation i know that we have passion in what we say but um it's just a way that we need to I'm taking my own advice
on things so we need to watch how we the tone we use when we talk to people like when I talk to labor I make sure that I break it down so I and I appreciate everybody who take the time out just through these meetings
and I know sometimes it can be painful and understanding that when we don't always agree it's okay to disagree and uh still be towards one another and respect one
another okay so um that's all I have to say madam Mayor can't you see how Madame Mayor have learned yes i just want to thank the community for coming and being with us i mean we asked that I know I asked when I first
got elected in uh 2014 u and wanted the community to be part of um what we do and for me to integrate into the community to make sure that we were serving the needs of the entire community and with that being said we
have a number of things that uh is going to be before us that going to affect our cities um um greatly and you you see some of them as it relates to sovereign immunity um we got um other things that's going to be hitting us too with
with the EV uh transition from gas to electric vehicles um there's a number of things that's on the slate and probably be requesting some time with the city attorney to look at some of those things and we need to get some more education
out to um the community as it relates to these bills you guys need to look at um signing up to uh local voices united uh those type things help with uh bills that come up that impact your daily
lives and so you think that uh you don't want to be part of politics but you should be so there's a number of different things we got 21 that we're tracking here with the city so we're going to get more education out to the community and to echo Borum the CRA is going to have a great impact on this the
legislature that is being proposed in regards to CRA and basically ending or limiting the CRA is going to have a significant impact on the city if it does go through so please people be informed and call your representatives
yeah um ditto ditto ditto for my fellow commissioners um I do want to say um thank you because it's budgeted so thank you to the city for sending us to the FBC LEO annual conference um my first
conference and um they celebrated 40 years of existence and why is that important and why is it important that we go because we get to talk to other elected officials and it gives us an opportunity to bring things back and
hopefully implement some things that they've done by trial and error that we can do to help our city we also had some very informative sessions um and some of the areas we talked about were informed decision making um speaking just for
people politics and effective um and be effective in driving significant change and I also want to say congratulations to my fellow commissioner who is now the president of FCC Leo
and commissioner FBC secretary i've been here for the last three years yeah he's been years but you're still so thankful
and so thank you so that was a big deal when they're looking forward to making you guys and hear a lot but is important and thank you very much with that said
do we have a motion to adjourn thank you all