WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=jiJPpeNW1kk NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: jiJPpeNW1kk): - 00:01:59: Meeting Call to Order, Invocation, Pledge of Allegiance - 00:03:59: Roll Call, Resignation Acceptance Discussion and Clarifications - 00:05:21: Meeting Purpose Disclosure, Appeals and Exparte Communication - 00:07:38: Approval of Prior Meeting Minutes, Sunshine Law Presentation - 00:13:19: Public Comments Closed, Railing Addition Request and Approval - 00:17:42: Residence Improvement Requests: Door and Fence Approval - 00:27:32: Other Business, Board Member Comments, Larry Beaton Update - 00:29:38: Filling Board Vacancies, Rosa Full-Fledged Member and Alternates - 00:32:26: Bronson House Restoration Concerns, Discussion and Next Steps Part: 1 1 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:14.640 All right. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Historic Preservation Board meeting of May 7th, 2026. We will begin with our call to order, followed by our invocation. I believe 2 00:02:14.640 --> 00:02:30.000 Chaplain Malbury is with us today. We're always thrilled to have you, sir. Yes, ma'am. I'm here. Thank you. >> Wonderful. Following your invocation, if my vice chairman, Miss Pierce, would lead us in the pledge of allegiance. 3 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:51.360 Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Good evening, everyone. Father, again, we say thank you for this day. We give you thanks and praise again for the opportunity to come before your presence. We pray God that you will crown our 4 00:02:51.360 --> 00:03:08.480 heads with wisdom and give us understanding God and those things that are needful uh to move this city in the direction that you would have it to go. We thank you because you're God. Besides you there is none other stand alone in your beauty and in your glory. And we 5 00:03:08.480 --> 00:03:25.840 say thank you this evening. We pray God for the leadership that you provided for such a time as this. We pray for each and every one God, every board member, every constituent God that you will keep us mindful of who you are and what you have called us to do. We pray your 6 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:40.080 blessing upon them now as they come together in Jesus name. Amen. >> Amen. >> Please join me as I say the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 7 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:59.519 republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you, Chaplain Mullbury. Thank you, Miss Pierce. Uh, Mr. Romero, if we could, the roll call, please. >> Absolutely. 8 00:03:59.519 --> 00:04:15.920 >> Okay. Elizabeth Van Rinsburg, >> here. >> Rihanna Pierce, >> here. >> Megan Beville is excused for the record. >> Christopher Hollister >> here. Mr. Mark Turnbo >> here. >> Tim Jefferson >> here. 9 00:04:15.920 --> 00:04:32.479 >> Mary Jane Rosa, >> we have a quorum. >> Thank you very much. Um, I don't know if this is the proper time to bring it up, but I believe we did have a resignation from the board. >> That's correct. Um don't know the exact 10 00:04:32.479 --> 00:04:49.040 day that was turned into the city clerk, but um um it was sometime sometime last month that Miss Patty Vo was was resigned from the board. >> May I speak for the board by saying that we would accept that resignation with regret? She has been a long-standing 11 00:04:49.040 --> 00:05:05.120 board member with us and I I feel she will be missed. >> Thank you. Let's move on to I >> I'm sorry. But the resignation is accepted by the city commission because they're the one who appointed her. 12 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:21.039 >> Oh, well that is absolutely correct and thank you very much. This just our own personal feelings. My goodness. I believe >> you did a great job chair. But was Miss Vote your vice chair or was that Miss Pierce? 13 00:05:21.039 --> 00:05:38.560 >> Miss Pierce. >> Wow. I'm not even on item C. All right, let's move on to more familiar ground and that would be item D, the meeting purpose disclosure. The purpose of the historic preservation board is to steward the architecture of 14 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:53.360 properties in our city's historic districts by applying the guidelines of the secretary of the interior standards for historic preservation. Moving on to item E, the appeals procedure and exparte communication. The 15 00:05:53.360 --> 00:06:09.840 appeals procedure is any person agreved by a decision of the board made within 15 days thereafter apply to the city commission for a review of the board's decision. Such application must be filed with the city manager in writing. How about exparte communication? Ladies and 16 00:06:09.840 --> 00:06:29.039 gentlemen, um perhaps our city clerk can cover that under sunshine law if we are failing to understand expartai communication at this point. I've got something to say, but I don't have this at the time. >> Sure. So, if you've had any 17 00:06:29.039 --> 00:06:47.039 communication with an applicant about any matter that's on this agenda, that would be considered an exparte communication and you need to there's nothing that prohibits it, but you need to disclose it. >> Okay. >> Is is that your situation? >> No. Um, it was a month or so ago when 18 00:06:47.039 --> 00:07:02.160 somebody came before the board. >> Okay. And I said that I was not going to help do any of the stuff that she applied for, but I'm ining the house, but I'm going in for free, so I don't get any financial 19 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:17.120 >> was that after the decision had already been made by the historic presentation. >> That she had somebody working for him in May. >> Okay, you're you're fine. The decision had already been made, >> but I'm still not taking forever. 20 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:38.240 >> That's your business, sir. All right. Um, anything else that we need to discuss under exparte communication? If not, let's move on to item two on on our agenda, the approval of minutes from the April 2nd, 2026 meeting. 21 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:54.000 >> I'll go ahead and make a motion to accept the minutes as presented. >> Thank you, Miss Pierce. Do we have a second? Thank you, sir. All in favor, please say I. and opposed. Excellent. Let's move on to item three on our agenda, 22 00:07:54.000 --> 00:08:11.599 presentations. This is item A, a Sunshine Law presentation given to us by our city of attorney, Miss West. Please note that this isformational only. We are not addressing this. We are just simply listening and understanding. 23 00:08:11.599 --> 00:08:27.759 >> Great. Thank you. Uh I will make this brief because I know you have a lot to get through on your agenda. Uh the city commission has requested that I provide a brief recap to all of our city boards and committees um basically on Florida's government in the sunshine laws. And 24 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:43.599 since we do have a new board member on the HPB, this seemed very timely. Next slide, please. Basically, Florida's sunshine law provides a right of access to governmental proceedings at both the state and local levels. And it applies 25 00:08:43.599 --> 00:08:59.440 in any sort of gathering where there is more than one of you and you are discussing an item that is reasonably foreseeable to come before your board for a vote. Next slide. So this applies to you because you are an appointed 26 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:15.920 board by the city commission and it applies to advisory boards. So essentially if you are meeting with anyone on this board make sure that you are not talking about anything that is going to be coming up on an agenda. 27 00:09:15.920 --> 00:09:33.519 Next slide please. This also includes using liaons. So you can't, for example, ask someone or share how you feel about a particular item and how you're going to vote and tell that to someone with the expectation or knowing that that 28 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:49.519 someone is going to communicate your preferences to another board member. Just play it safe. Do not talk about upcoming agenda items is what I would advise. Unless, of course, you do have questions about the agenda item, always 29 00:09:49.519 --> 00:10:05.519 feel free to call staff and ask questions. We're here to help you through the process. Next slide, please. There are three basic requirements to Sunshine Law. The meetings of public boards or commissions must be open to the public. Reasonable notice of those 30 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:20.560 meetings must be provided. And the meetings of the minutes must be prepared and open to public inspection. and this board is very good about it. But if there is an opportunity for the public to speak on a matter, we always prefer 31 00:10:20.560 --> 00:10:37.760 that the public weigh in on any sort of issue before this board. We are after all serving the public. There are significant penalties to violations of the sunshine law and these are personal penalties. There can be civil actions against the city but also against you 32 00:10:37.760 --> 00:10:53.519 personally. There can be criminal penalties for violation of sunshine against you personally and of course suspension or removal from office. I just touched on public participation. We always encourage public participation 33 00:10:53.519 --> 00:11:10.880 and this board uh should also especially in its quasi judicial capacity encourage public participation. Public records law. A little bit of a overview. Next slide please. Florida has one of the broadest public records law in the entire nation and 34 00:11:10.880 --> 00:11:27.040 essentially uh the the view is the taxpayers are paying for all of us and so these are the taxpayer records. So they are available to the public for inspection and copying. However, there are some exemptions to Florida statute 35 00:11:27.040 --> 00:11:42.000 119. But essentially it includes and this is very broad all documents, papers, letters, maps, books, tapes, photographs, films, sound recordings, data processing software or other material regardless of the physical form 36 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:59.279 characteristics or and here's the catchall for everything in the universe or means of transmission. This means your social media Facebook posts could be potentially subject to public records requests if they pertain 37 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:15.680 to matters that the city business is engaged in. For example, your upcoming agenda items. So, be be really careful of how you are acting in your social media capacity on city business because you could be subjecting yourself to a public records request. This also 38 00:12:15.680 --> 00:12:33.200 includes emails and text messages. So, just be very conscientious of that. Next slide, please. The way we handle public records requests is if you receive one, um, you should direct that public records requests to our city clerk who is Karen Hayes. The clerk will 39 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:48.160 acknowledge the request and forward it to the appropriate department. If you're getting it, it's probably going to be the planning department, right? If it's large, they're going to estimate the expense before producing and then they track it on a spreadsheet and basically 40 00:12:48.160 --> 00:13:03.839 produce the records. Next slide. Any questions? That is the shortest cliffnote version of Florida's government in the sunshine. Obviously, you know, there are multi-day um conferences on these subjects. If you ever have any question about Sunshine 41 00:13:03.839 --> 00:13:19.760 public records, please feel free to ask me. Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss West. Uh, do we have questions for our city attorney regarding this? If not, let's go ahead and move on to public comments. Speakers are limited to three minutes. These are 42 00:13:19.760 --> 00:13:36.160 not agenda items, but let's go ahead and open it up and see if we have any. Sorry, did I Okay. Uh, let's see if we have anything for public comments. Seeing nothing, let's close down public comments and 43 00:13:36.160 --> 00:13:51.360 move straight into item five on our agenda. a new business. We begin with HPB case 258, a request for a certificate of appropriateness for a railing edition. The owner is Mindy Bodakin. 44 00:13:51.360 --> 00:14:07.120 >> Ah, well done. Uh, the address is 324 EMTT Street, Palaca, Florida, and the parcel number ends in 0101. Yes, ma'am. >> Good afternoon, everybody. This is a request to obtain a certificate of 45 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:24.000 appropriateness to add railings to the lower porch and front steps of the home. These railings are going to match the top porch which already has existing railings. The parcel is located at 324 EMTT Street in the South Historic 46 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:42.320 District. The applicant is Mindy Bodakin. Photographs in your staff report illustrate the new railings, the paint, and the placements. The Florida master site file says that the structure was built between 1909 and 1915. 47 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:59.120 A large house, which has been cited and detailed to fit well in the historic district. Alterations have occurred since the 1984 survey, but they have not reduced the effectiveness of this house to contribute to the historic district. 48 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:18.160 The entire master site file is included in your agenda. The applicant is here if you have any questions. Thank you, Miss Brown. Do we have questions for Miss Brown at the moment? We would love for you the applicant. If you could please step up, introduce 49 00:15:18.160 --> 00:15:36.320 yourself. >> And if you would give us just an address and a city of reference. >> All right. I'm Mindy Bodacan at 324 emita, Florida. >> Thank you. If you would like to add anything about the project. 50 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:52.560 >> Um, nothing to add. Just excited to uh to move forward on this. I think it will be gorgeous um and add a lot of value to the neighborhood. >> Thank you and and welcome as we always say. Do we have a question 51 00:15:52.560 --> 00:16:09.279 at this time? It seems to me very straightforward. Simply matching what was on the second floor with the first floor and going with a nice clean white paint. Ladies, gentlemen of the board, anything 52 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:27.360 to uh fantastic. >> You know what? Let me just quickly go ahead and open up to public comment. >> And seeing none, we'll close that down. I'm sorry. I did not mean to cut you off. Oh, >> open up to public comment. Seeing none, 53 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:46.399 closing it down. Did not mean to cut you off, sir. Where are we at, ladies and gentlemen? Miss Pierce, >> I I say we go ahead and move and make a motion, unless you want to go item by item. >> Um, if that is in the form of a motion, 54 00:16:46.399 --> 00:17:03.519 I would love to hear it. >> All right. Um, I'll go ahead and make a motion and accept the repair of or I guess the installation of the handrails as presented. Um, also the the staining of the front um the I guess the porch 55 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:20.799 floors and the front door and also the fence and the lattice work. I mean >> go ahead and approve all of it. >> Thank you, Miss Pierce. We have a motion for a overall approval. Do we have a second? 56 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:42.559 >> Mr. Turbo, thank you very much. We have a motion and a second. All in favor, please say I. I. >> And opposed. Excellent. Welcome to the neighborhood. Your home is beautiful. >> All right, moving on to item B under new business. HPV case 57 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:58.160 2617, a request for improvements to a single family residence. The owner is Natasha Dirham and Brian Walker. The address is 311 North Fourth Street. The parcel number ends in 0021. 58 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:14.400 You're not Miss Brown, but please get us started. >> Good afternoon, Chair Van Her and HPB members agency from Black Planning Department. Also here with me, Miss Natasha Durham, the property owner and applicant. Miss Durham is requesting a 59 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:29.520 certificate of appropriateness for improvements to her residence and property located in the city of Glaca's North Historic District adjacent to Fred Green Park. Per section 54-78 of the municipal code, a certificate of appropriateness is required to erect, 60 00:18:29.520 --> 00:18:45.679 construct, or alter a structure or sign located or to be located in a historic district. A single family resident residential dwelling exists on the property located in the middle to rear of the lot. The Florida master site file has the house 61 00:18:45.679 --> 00:19:03.440 constructed between 1887 and 1892. and I believe this was the first resident on the block. Um, a certificate of appropriateness was obtained in January 2022 to update the electrical system, work on the front porch, replace kitchen cabinets, and 62 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:21.039 paint the exterior of the residence uh, light blue with white trim paint, which is currently on the house. Now, a second COA was obtained in February 2023 for the replacement of an existing metal roof with a new metal roof. And the last COA was obtained in April 63 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:38.160 2026, just a month ago, for repainting the exterior of the house rook wood jade and classical white for the trim. The county appraiser notes that the effective year built 1992. 64 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:59.039 Figure one of the report uh is a survey of 311 North Worth. Figure two is a location map and photograph of 311 North Fort. Proposed improvements front door. Uh the 65 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:14.799 applicants are proposing to replace the existing white fiberglass front door as shown in figure three with a new fiberglass front door shown in figure 4. The staff report notes that the applicants are proposing to paint the door a brown wood stain for the 66 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:29.039 aesthetic. Um I will note that um Miss Durham and I communicated earlier this week and she preferred the stain to be can but she also noted that black was another color 67 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:51.840 that she would like to be considered the privacy fence. Uh, Miss Durham is proposing to erect a privacy fence six foot in height along the south property line and within two feet of the rear property line. Figure five shows the proposed privacy fence consisting of the 68 00:20:51.840 --> 00:21:11.120 doggeear profile. Uh, figure six shows the proposed location of the privacy fence on the property and in total about 65 linear feet of new fence. In conclusion, uh the applicants are proposing to replace the front door on 69 00:21:11.120 --> 00:21:26.880 the house. Staff believes that the front door currently on the house is not the original door. The applicants are proposing to erect a privacy fence on the south property line and the rear and just the rear property line. The applicants believe that the proposal 70 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:42.559 keeps within the existing character of the properties within the north historic district. The proposed findings of fact the application is for a certificate of appropriateness requesting improvements to an existing single family residence and property. Two, proper notices 71 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:58.000 including public notice in the newspaper were provided in accordance with state statutes. And three, staff conducted and a review of the application and federal report. And Miss Durham is available to answer any questions you may have about 72 00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:13.760 the pre that. >> Thank you. before you run away. We appreciate you. Um, ladies, gentlemen, do we have questions for Mr. Michaels at this time? No questions for city staff. Um, in that case, Miss Durham, we'd love 73 00:22:13.760 --> 00:22:28.960 to say hello. >> If you would again, your name and >> Natasha Durham, 311 North Fourth Street, Palaka, Florida. >> Excellent. Tell us a little bit about what you intend to do. >> Uh, currently the house is like a a blue 74 00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:45.280 light blue color. Um, it's very flat and shows a lot of dirt, doesn't show the beauty of the home. Um, I just want to change the color, make it a little deeper, more earthy. Um, keeping the trim uh, white, just brighten up. Um, I 75 00:22:45.280 --> 00:23:00.880 don't have a backyard is only literally 2 feet. So, I do um have a grandson and I want him to play outside. So, the only yard I have is a sideyard. So, that's the reason for the defy fence kind of weirdly like just an L there. so he has some area where he 76 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:17.280 can play. Um, pretty much that's it. Um, that's what I plan on doing. The front door, um, it is a very dark home on the inside. Doesn't have a lot of windows. So, I thought it's more expensive and probably not as 77 00:23:17.280 --> 00:23:33.440 structurally being that as old as the house is smart to like knock a wall and make a window. So, I wanted to replace the door with a um the panel that you saw with the nine glass because that'll get more light into the house. So, that was the only reason for that. And 78 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:48.480 eventually um I did some history on the home. Um yeah, it's 1892 and the original um the engineer builder of the home was Frederick uh Priest and Laura Priest. Frederick was an engineer. Um, and 79 00:23:48.480 --> 00:24:04.880 Laura, she was just home being a homemaker. Um, I don't know them, but I did research. And then, um, they sold a home to CJ Smith, who was a jewelry, uh, maker, and he had a jewelry shop on Lemon Street, which I believe is now St. 80 00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:22.400 John's. So, it was just cool the things like I'm like, "Wow, they lived here." So, wonder if there's any jewelry. But don't worry, >> you're going to want to look in that sideyard. Well, that's it. >> Thank you, Miss Burham. Um, do we have 81 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:40.840 questions for Miss Durham at this time? Um, Mr. Jefferson, >> I don't see a a a sample of the Rookwood Jade paint. Did I miss that? >> It's um SW 28. 82 00:24:45.760 --> 00:25:18.159 Wait. >> So, this is a Photoshop rendering. That's the the wood. >> It definitely is a little bit darker. >> Rookwood jade is the color. That looks kind of yellow to me. 83 00:25:18.159 --> 00:25:42.000 >> Okay. Jade makes me think green. >> I did not see the paint colors on our agenda, so I sort of skipped past that. I felt that that was probably a staff level approvement. So, >> excellent. Thank you. 84 00:25:42.000 --> 00:26:06.960 >> Thank you. Nope, it's in the book. >> That's it. >> Oh, thank you, Mr. Romero. >> It's like most >> Look at you, >> thank you. Do we have other questions 85 00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:22.559 for the homeowner, ladies and gentlemen? Okay. Uh if not, thank you so much. We we might bother you again in the moment, but for um now let's go ahead and open up to public comment. See what we have. No takers. Let's close 86 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:40.000 down public comment. Um at this point, I I see our purview as two things. Um a fiberglass door to replace a fiberglass door um that would be stained and then a 6-ft L-shaped uh dog ear fence to the 87 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:57.039 rear and south side of the property. Do we want to take those individually or as a whole? >> I say we can do it as a whole. >> Miss Pierce, you are my co-chairman. >> All right, let's go ahead and make the motion to um accept the door as presented and accept the um sixoot 88 00:26:57.039 --> 00:27:14.279 privacy fence also as presented. >> Let's look for a second and then I have a feeling there might be a tad bit of discussion. >> Looking for a second on the >> Okay. Uh, do we have discussion? 89 00:27:14.320 --> 00:27:32.000 I'm sorry. I'm If not, if there is no discussion, then let's go ahead and call. All in favor, please say I. >> I. >> I. And opposed. >> Okay. Well, that was quick and easy. Again, welcome to the 90 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:47.919 neighborhood and uh thank you for coming to see us today. All right, moving along. We are now at the topic of other business. Is there other business? You've come before the board. 91 00:27:47.919 --> 00:28:05.440 If not, let's move on to board member comments. If no one else has one, I have one. Go ahead, Mr. >> I have one. >> Um, seeing these this master um file on these two properties reminds me of Larry Beaton and I wanted to give a update 92 00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:21.919 about Larry's health. He's doing very well. He must be a cat with nine lives because we think he's >> That's great news. >> moving away, but he's not. Uh he's in a in a assisted living situation, but will be hopefully moving home soon. 93 00:28:21.919 --> 00:28:36.880 >> Wow. >> Uh he's getting much more use of his area that was um stroke, you know, and so he's good and he's at that uh village village. that >> oh vintage vintage 94 00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:52.320 >> vintage vintage care >> right across from the the high the college if anybody wants to go see him and he loves strawberry shakes >> and I still have not got him one and I feel horrible that >> yes um >> that's fierce 95 00:28:52.320 --> 00:29:07.679 >> after the last meeting um my daughter and I actually did get to go by and we um brought him some flowers and I brought him a puzzle book just to help him pass the time because I know it's probably very boring in there >> but He seemed very well. His color looked great. He looked great. And >> he looks amazing. 96 00:29:07.679 --> 00:29:21.919 >> He looks amazing. He looks amazing. >> He's like half Larry. >> Yeah. No, he's probably a quarter Larry. >> Quarter Larry. >> But he he looks great. He seemed to be in very good um spirits and we do wish him good. 97 00:29:21.919 --> 00:29:38.399 >> Excellent. Um I I had one question um and and this kind of dovtales into my question at the last meeting which is how do board vacancies get filled and um our city attorney Miss West did an 98 00:29:38.399 --> 00:29:53.679 overview of the situation but my specific question today is we have a vacancy and Miss Rosa has been a wonderful alternate member. I'm just wondering how she would move up in the world. >> Right. So thank you. Um, our ordinance 99 00:29:53.679 --> 00:30:09.600 governing the historic preservation board does not provide any guidance on this particular issue. Surprise, surprise. Um, I will tell you that um the city commission just passed an ordinance for the planning board to also 100 00:30:09.600 --> 00:30:26.720 have an alternate and the planning board um left it to themselves to make the decision on who that alternate should be. Um, likewise, I I think it certainly is within the discretion of this board. You guys choose your own chair and your 101 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:42.720 vice chair. So, I I think it's within your discretion to go ahead and make those. >> And yet, we can't accept her resignation with regret, but go on >> formally. Um, so with that being said, I I think it's within the discretion of this board 102 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:58.799 on how you would like to proceed. appears. >> So, do we need to make a motion to accept her as a >> full-fledged >> full-fledged member of the board? >> Yes, you would have to make a motion to transfer her from the alternate status to the actual board status. 103 00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:13.600 >> All right. Well, I'll make a motion to um move her from alternate to actual board member. >> Excellent. We have a motion. Do we have a second, Mr. Hollister? >> Thank you very much. We have a motion and a second. Do we have discussion? If not, all in favor, please say I. I don't 104 00:31:13.600 --> 00:31:33.279 believe you can vote, Miss Rosen. >> Anyway, I was briefing on >> I was going to ask >> Miss Rosa there. >> I believe that would have come up under discussion. So, all in favor, please say I. I and oppose. No. Great. Uh, the eyes 105 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:50.480 have it obviously and welcome to the board officially. How long have you served as an alternate just for interest? >> Yes, ma'am. You you have done your time. We expect to see you in the hot seat. >> Yes. 106 00:31:50.480 --> 00:32:11.519 >> Proud of you in the community. >> I'm excited. Thank you. >> Awesome day. >> Well, you you did this, not us. We're we're thrilled to have you. >> All right. Uh if >> question, >> uh Mr. Jefferson. So since we don't have 107 00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:26.480 an alternate, >> I would imagine we'll advertise borrow one. >> That's okay. >> How many alternates are we allow? >> Two. >> Okay. So we have two alternate vacancies. >> That would be good. >> All right. >> Okay. 108 00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:43.200 >> Um was that did I cover what you Okay. Excellent. >> Uh Mr. Hollister. >> Sure. Let's back up to item seven and go with board comments. Um, I said the uh when I walked the dogs by the uh Bronson 109 00:32:43.200 --> 00:33:00.480 house, how good it looked. >> If you go up and look at it closely, they did a deplorable job. They ruined that house. Please go look at it if you don't believe me. If you look on the east side, the pillars are not aligned. If if 110 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:17.600 you look up at the ceiling, the boards are horrible. The treated lumber is shrinking. There's gaps between the the treated lumber. When they powerwash the house on the west side, they tore the paneling up with the 111 00:33:17.600 --> 00:33:34.880 power washer. It's deplorable the job that was done. You know, that's one of our crown jewels in Palaca and they ruined it. If you don't believe me, please go look. >> What's the address? >> It's Moholland Drive. Bronson Moholland 112 00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:56.480 House on Madison Street. Uh, basically that way a block and a half. Um, Mr. Hollister, I'm I'm I'm I don't know quite what to say except for the fact that um I'm not sure if now 113 00:33:56.480 --> 00:34:13.440 is the time or place to bring it up and I'm not really sure where the time and place to bring it up might be. Uh, Miss West, as always, I defer to our city attorney to guide us. >> So, uh, as as you may know, um, much of 114 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:30.560 the funding was part of a a grant and then the city has also funded part of the restoration efforts. It would be really helpful uh with your background if you could specifically identify in writing what you have observed so we can take it to the appropriate channels the 115 00:34:30.560 --> 00:34:45.599 project manager that's overseeing the project and um the acting city manager so we can address these these concerns. >> Well, somebody >> I'll help you. >> Thank you. But if you could please provide 116 00:34:45.599 --> 00:35:01.839 since this may come back before the board. I would prefer that you not >> I'm sorry I didn't mean to say >> um but your background if you could at least put it in writing and get it over to the planning department or to me and we will follow up with the project 117 00:35:01.839 --> 00:35:17.040 manager and see what we can do. >> I've worked on houses much older than that one. I I I've not >> Miss West, wouldn't you agree that if Mr. Hollister were were to put together something independently and Miss Rosa 118 00:35:17.040 --> 00:35:34.400 were to put together something independently that would be helpful, but the two of them obviously are not going to speak on it on any level, >> right? Because it it could very well. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. And um 119 00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:51.040 thank you for your response to that. You you took us out of the situation where we felt a little bit powerless and um you gave us a way to move forward which I believe both of our board members are probably quite pleased with. Thank you for always being there for us, Miss 120 00:35:51.040 --> 00:36:00.640 West. All right. Anything else for the good of historic preservation? If not, I am looking for a motion to adjurnn.