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MEETING SECTIONS:

Part 1 (Video ID: 2t0bKp6-3Z0):
- 00:13:54: Roll Call, Appeal to Seniors, Minutes Approval, Emergency Item
- 00:15:58: Sunshine Law Presentation Deferred; Public Comments Closed
- 00:16:47: PB Case 26-04: Plan Unit Development Presentation Begins
- 00:18:52: Downtown Redevelopment PUD Details and Staff Recommendation
- 00:21:21: Applicant Presentation: Downtown Palatka Redevelopment Project
- 00:23:36: Board Questions Regarding Construction Timeline and Project Phases
- 00:25:31: Discussion on Project Phasing and Previous Approvals
- 00:26:50: Building Height Limits and Atrium Design Discussion
- 00:29:23: Detailed Review of Elevation Renderings for Buildings
- 00:31:40: Map Clarifications, Exterior and Interior Design Goals
- 00:35:16: Request for Conditional Use Permits Discussion Begins
- 00:38:00: Clarifications on Commercial and Residential Development Plans
- 00:39:05: Staff and City Attorney Weigh in on CUPs, Application Issues
- 00:40:50: Addressing Procedural Concerns and Board Discretion for CUPs
- 00:43:13: Discussions About the Propriety of Granting CUPs in Advance
- 00:45:17: Tabled or Moved Forward: Conditional Use Permits Discussion
- 00:47:43: Conditions and Procedures Regarding CUP Application Completion
- 00:49:21: Public Comment: Support, Concerns About Over-Concentration of Uses
- 00:51:29: Motions and Conditions for PUD Approval and CUP Applications
- 00:54:47: Motions Passed for PUD; Development Agreement and CUP Approval
- 01:01:18: PB Case 26-06: Land Use Designation and Rezoning Request
- 01:03:07: Introducing New Staff Member and Land Use Request Presentation
- 01:05:52: Pastor Carl Flag: Zoning Compatibility with Surrounding Properties
- 01:07:28: Public Comment, Board Discussion, and Motion Approval for PBK's 26-06
- 01:11:10: Reducing Board Membership, Alternate Selection Process
- 01:14:14: Motion Passed for Alternate Board Member, Staff/Board Comments


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Alex, please do the roll call. >> Yes, sir. >> Ed Kilibbr >> here. >> Chase Barnes >> here. >> Earl Wallace >> here. >> Andrew Bernett is absent for the record. Edy Wilson >> here. Tom Dolan present.

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>> We have quum. >> Thank you. Now read the appeal to seniors and expart communication. Any person wishing to appeal any decision made by the funding board with respect to any matter

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with um messed myself up. Any matter considered at such meeting at such meeting will need a record of the proceedings and for such purpose may need to ensure that verbatim record of the proceedings is

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made which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is based Florida statute 286-05 and I have motion for approval of minutes to approve April 7, 2026 minutes.

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>> M second. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. All those opposed. Thank you. Um now we're going to go Oh, >> chair. >> Yes. >> Will you take a motion for an emergency action item?

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>> I will. for the >> Sure. Uh to essentially comply with the terms of the new ordinance that was just passed by the city commission, you need to pair your board down from nine amendments to five members and one alternate.

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>> And we'll do that with your motion at the end of the meeting. I have a second. >> I'll second. Motion to second. All those in favor signify saying I. >> I. >> All those opposed? Seeing none, move on.

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Um, now we're moving into presentation for the Sunshine Law pres city attorney, Miss Jane West. >> So, actually, I noticed the point was not uploaded to the agenda or I've had it. >> Never. >> Ah, okay. So, we're going to roll this

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to the next meeting. I could talk about it, but it's a lot easier to have the PowerPoint presentation. Um, and it's just a brief um the city commissioners requested that I give this presentation to all boards and committees and it's just a brief PowerPoint. So, we'll get

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that out to you so you have an opportunity to review it in advance for the next meeting. >> Okay. Thank you. I guess we'll No, never mind. Um, public comments. Uh, has anybody got anything that they'd like to say to the board to address us? Um, you have three minutes

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if you do. Okay, seeing none, we're going to move on past that. Going into regular business, PB case 26-04. Request for approval of a plan unit development PUD. Address 2011 211 225

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229 300 320 St. John's Avenue and 301 Reach Street, Paka, Florida. parcels. The parcel numbers 442-10-27-6850-0120- 0101 42-10-27-6850-0120 02

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42-10-27-6850- 0120-00 0011 42-10-276850- 0120001 4210 20- 42-10-27-6850 0150-000060 4210276850-

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01 50-500090 Okay. 42-10-27-6850-0150-000040 and 42-10-27-6850-01-10 0. Man, all them numbers ran together. You hear me? I'm glad I have my glasses

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on. who is presenting that to us. >> Mr. Chairman, I will do that. Okay. >> This afternoon, I just want to be very brief on the presentation. Um, this is a multip I apologize, but at the advice of council, I have to recuse myself from

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this case. So, I just wanted to state that up front. >> Okay. So this is a multiple um application involving several parcels as you just read all the the legal descriptions. Uh there are eight parcels in total in the

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downtown. This is probably one of the most important redevelopment plan that the city of Palaka have ever seen and uh it's going to be critical for the development of our downtown. Uh so staff is very excited with this

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with this project and you have seen this many times in different application for conditional uses. Uh the code requires that because of of the square footage involved it requires a PUD. So what that's what this application is today is

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to resoning. So we can place and overlay a plan unit development over the existing uh the existing zoning which is uh the existing zoning is the downtown rearring. U I can go over the details on this. I

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don't think there's a need because like I said you have seen this before at least three times. Um we have reviewed the standard for a PUD. I included my analysis in the staff report. It meets

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all the conditions for the for the PUD. We also worked on uh the development agreement that is required for the PUD. Uh the city attorney, myself and Mr. Toriano made a couple times, you know, to go over the the developer agreement

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and the developer agreement that is part of your package is the one that we all in agreement with. Uh with that, I would just uh give my recommendation which is for approval of the placement of the plan unit development overlaid in all

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those parcels, the eight parcels and also uh the recommendation of approval of the land uh the development agreement between the city and begone properties, Inc. This item is going to go with your

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recommendation is going to go to the to the city commission for adoption. It's going to require two public hearings. It's going to go first hearing and second hearing before it becomes effective. >> Okay. >> All right. The applicant is here in case

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you have any question or or if Jean wants to go over some of the items. >> Um, would you like to step to the podium? >> Sure. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Jim Triano, 2000 reach, Florida. I do represent the

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applicants in this case. And Mr. Chair and members of the board and city staff, thank you for the opportunity to be here tonight, today, should I say. We're excited. This is something that's been a long time coming. It's a passion of ours. It's a passion of our owners is to see a change in downtown Palad. This

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will truly change this city and this county in such a great way forever. We're excited about it. We've got a lot of input from members of the community. Uh we're just striving to do the right thing. And as it's been said to me so many times, we are going to do the right

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thing because it's the right thing to do. And that's what we're doing here in town. So, we're absolutely honored to be here today. We're excited. This is a step that we do have to take. Uh we didn't realize that earlier when we were moving forward with our cups that you

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all have uh graciously provided to us. So, I'm here to answer any questions you may have. I do wish to compliment that. Uh Mr. chair working with the attorney and your director made this process very easy for us. So I thank you very much um

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for accommodating us and providing us good um understanding as well as guidance. So Mr. Chair, uh we do have some of the owners in the audience today, but I am here to answer any questions that you or your distinguished members may have. >> Okay. Um I mean you're okay with

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everything that's been presented to you and >> Yes, sir. There's just one request that I'll make if you have any if you don't have any questions there or just one request. It's in the document. I've talked to the director about this. So, at the end, if you're prepared for that

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has to do with conditional use permits, but other than that, I can hold until uh you have any or your board members have any questions, we can get them. >> Okay. Anybody got any questions, Mr. Troya? >> Yes, I do. Okay.

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Mr. Just going to find the right page so I don't misquote the length of time on the construction. I believe it was four years for the bulk of the project and then 10 years for the

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second phase. >> One second, Mr. Chair. Let me get to that page so I can also That's correct. So, if I'm correct on page seven, phase one would be a four-year process. That would be 2011,

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211, 225, and 229 St. John's. That encompasses the entire 200 lot of St. John's Avenue. And then for phase two, there are several partials that are in there. These are the more sophisticated projects. >> St. James Hotel and James Hotel, the

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Shirley building, as well as the property in front of the James. So the property that butts that's in front of the James uh along Reed Street is something we envision to be a portica share that the James being extended out and um an opening underneath for traffic

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to go back and forth and then raising an additional three stories to to meet the design of the James Hotel. So that particular piece of property is included in there as well as the property that's currently being used parking next to Nicole's on the other side of Elch.

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That's where our layown yard will be as we conuct construction downtown. It will be there for us for the 200 bot. Eventually that property will be developed. I just can't tell you what. And that's why we said within 10 years we felt very comfortable that we would

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have a plan that we can bring to the city and have approved for those locations. >> Thank you. I'll just bring this back to the chair or the board. Have we in the past approved multiple tenure out projects? >> Yes. And I I can speak to that. For PUDS, it's standard practice to have a

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phasing. You did this uh with McCclary Cove, for example. The there's a phase two for that entire parcel. I answer your question, Mr. Bill. >> Yes, but I still have others. >> That's fine. >> Um,

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St. James 30 to 70 rooms. 30 to 70 rooms. >> Yeah. Based on the design. So, we are looking with the chair to expand the the structure itself again out towards Reach Street and then up one additional floor. So, our projections and and that's a

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rough projection between those numbers. Whenever the architect I'm sorry, I need to step back. Whenever the design is finished and it goes to the architect, we will understand at that point in time how many rooms that we will have. Projection is for the higher number.

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Then as many rooms as we can get there that will be high quality rooms is what we're uh seeking to do. >> And then an additional 27 on the 200 block >> any that we have um already. That's correct. And then we have >> so 100 roughly 100 rooms if everything

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works out >> under the porter. You're going to have um delivery zone. >> Yep. Be a delivery zone. There'll be a valet area. So, there'll be all the accutrants that go along with a high-end boutique um hotel. >> Thank you,

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>> Mr. Ch. >> No further questions. >> Okay. All right. So, just so I understand Oh, I'm sorry. >> We're not seeing any of the city's height limits. Mr. Chair, we're not

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we're under the 60 foot um capacities written in code. So there is no need. We're not asking for any variance at this point for any height on the buildings. >> I'm almost 100% positive this, but maybe the attorney could I'm sorry to place

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her on notice, but I'm pretty confident the it's 6 feet. >> Yes, the maximum structure height is 6 feet. Yes, got it right. Uh, it was I'm right, so it's good.

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>> Mr. Wallace, any further questions? >> Yeah. No, that was the question that you know. >> Okay. Huh. >> Mr. Wilson. >> Yeah, I have a question. Um, okay. So, 2011 is Pennies, right? Old Bingo Palace. 2011. >> Yes, ma'am.

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>> Yeah. Okay. So, that starts there. Okay. Let's go to um James Hotel. So talk about the back part, the re street part again. >> So may I use the map? >> Yes sir. >> So um here at number six is the James Hotel.

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>> Right. >> So in its existing uh configuration, >> we want to use a portion of the shaded area number seven >> to not only add to the building but to allow us to continue to go vertically. Okay. But if we go to a fourth floor on

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the James Hotel, we would want the addition to do the same. So we would be mirrored. And again, that's our that's our our design intent at this time. >> Okay. Okay. >> But we're still talking about the old Diana shop at the corner of Third and St. John's. Y'all still going to put a

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third floor on that too, right? >> The Color Bush Hotel, >> whatever it was called. I knew it as a Diana shop, >> Mr. Right. So, it was once a threetory building was involved in a fire. Um, our intent is to now go to three stories.

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And you would see that. Can you please go to the elevation for me, Alex? >> Yeah. Ours is kind of like So, this is um a rendition. This is an art architectural rendition. It could change as we move through this process, but if I may, this is the the image of

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what the 2011 building. So, this is the existing bingo palace. First floor would be your restaurant. Your second floor would be um your multi-purpose music event area. Third floor would be rooftop bar and restaurant.

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Here is what we'd call no ease. This is 211 building the old mccroy's. First floor of more of a a food court opportunity for uh people to lease um property space from us to sell their wares their their food. And on this

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floor, you all already approved our hotel rooms for there in the 225 building. Our first floor could be um anywhere from an art gallery to a special use event space. The second floor will be specialized. It will have

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four hotel rooms, two facing uh St. John's Avenue and two facing in the rear parking lot. And in the middle will be a multi-purpose event space. So, it can be leased by tenants, it can be leased by anybody in this room. That's our intent for that space. And Mr. Chair, getting

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back to the 229 building, first floor would be a special event space. Again, could be anywhere from uh piano bar, the jazz club to an opportunity for you to at least sit for a party or for an event. We already have a cup from you

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for the second floor. We wish to add eight additional rooms on the sec on the third floor and just raising it so we can again it's about having the bed space. If you think about the intent that it's been designed to have here downtown, we want to attract people to

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this community. And if you think about visit Palaskka and the things that we've been doing already in conjunction with the city and with the chamber and with the county to bring people here to Putham County, Palata, as we do, we need bed space for them. And so this is our intent to to have as many opportunities

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for our visiting public, not only for this visit, but for the next time they come back. on the same map at page 26, Alex, of the overhead. Um, number two is not on my picture and number seven isn't either.

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So, >> so two is the staging lot and seven and seven is the porticochet. >> So, the only thing, as I had mentioned in the document, the only thing that we had a rendition of was the 200 block. Um, so I didn't have one for >> Oh, no. I'm just talking about in our

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packets. Number two and number seven are not on here. >> Mr. Chair, if I may. Number two is the lay down. That's the current parking by the way. Angel's Belchaws parking >> and then number seven is the vacant propert. >> Yes, sir. >> Thank you.

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>> You're welcome. That's right. You can't see the car. >> Yes, sir. the um elevation architecture. Y'all are going to strive for something like that? >> Yes, sir.

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>> It's our It's our intent to deliver a wow opportunity for people to come here. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you still intend to have the >> I'm sorry. You still intend to have the atrium? >> Uh we do here if I may. Is this what you're speaking, Mr. Chair? Here.

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>> Yeah. >> That's correct. That's what we hope we envision to have that. If you think about the event space itself, having it closed off to the sunlight, it's just another event space. We want it to really be lively and when people go up there, they can look at the stars. It's

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inclement weather, they can see the inclement weather. But allowing that natural light to come in, I really think it's going to enhance our ability to have a special event there for you or someone else. >> Yeah. The only thing that reason I'm asking these questions,

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usually there's a lot of fluff there, but then when it gets down to the pick and the pluck disappears and we end up with something that, you know, the city wouldn't be proud of.

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I can tell you that this project, Mr. Chair, if I may, this is, if I may, um, this is tens of millions of dollars of investment. This is a huge investment. Why? Because it's time for Palaca to change and we're going to give it an opportunity and and

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and really bring something special and it will not be done. If you think about the fill-in station or Beck ball or the places 2000 Reed Street, >> I like everything y'all done in >> that's our that's our direction and

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there will be no second place. Now something may change because of a design issue or a structural matter but for the most part we are we're really looking for this on the outside but then think about the inside the direction that

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we've received is clear it must be wow also. So, at one point in time soon, we'll be able to share with you what our thoughts are and what these rooms will look like inside of the hotel rooms themed after um steam ships or railroads

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or Palaca's history. It's really going to sell Palaska. Everything we do is selling this community in that and it has to look great. If it's not, we fail. It will be unique. It will be authentic.

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And it will be real. >> Thank you, sir. >> Good enough, Mr. Walls. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Any further questions? Okay. >> Just have if this is the right time to bring it up, if I may, Mr. Chair, may I

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ask a question here? >> So, Mr. Chair, can you please go to page five of the agreement. The top is section E where it's 229 St. John Valley.

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H5 and 10 is the bottom of the document. >> So in the middle there's F 300 St. John's Avenue and 301 Street. Those are two that I'd like to talk about as well as on the next page for 320 St. John's Avenue and fourth.

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>> Mr. Mr. Chair, you have found it probably a hard time, but I'll find >> it's page 14. >> I got it. Now I figured that out one. We have a different page number for >> Go ahead.

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>> We have followed the guidance of city code when we have come before this this board to ask for CU or a conditional use permit for 211, 225, and 229 St. John's Avenue. And based on that um information

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that we provided, this board has granted us a cup to move forward. as we look at this development and since we're here in front of you with the development agreement it's it's our request and I know that we need to discuss this as a team but if you look at section F my my

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last sentence in accordance to section 94161 east and that's the actual um code for the downtown uh riverfront district for conditional use permits number seven is

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hotels and that's the same um code that we've come to you in the past. We would like to be issued the CUP now for the James Hotel, for the Shelley building, and for the property in front of the

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James because we are going to be making an effort to move forward with these properties and having it zoned as a PUB and understanding that we're allowed to move forward. we we would like to have everything done now rather than coming back in a year

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and our CU is denied for for whatever the reason may be or there there are some complications that came up then which we don't foresee any but we would like to address it now to where the package is done we understand the processes are all in place and there is

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nothing that's going to hold us back the location that we're not asking for Can you go back Alex real quick to the site map Please. >> Sorry. >> That's okay. >> Um, we're not asking for two at this time because we don't know what's going

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to be there. Um, we anticipate we would like to see some commercial and residential that's there. Something that would really halt downtown Pala, but we don't know yet. That's why it's um, as it was brought up, that's why it's later in our phasing. However, we understand

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for the James and the Shel, we want to design them now. And that means we're putting time, effort, and money put into that and we would like the opportunity to be granted at CUP for the use of hotel rooms in a building that already had them, the James. And then the

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Shelly, we understood that it was a hotel in the past. So again, we'd like the same. And then for area seven, we know it's going to be joined to the James. It's going to be hotel rooms, but we would like the same. So, we believe we've met the criteria for a CUV and I

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just don't know how to move forward and that's a discussion we have with city staff and we would like to see if we could um resolve that matter here at this point in time. >> Thank you. >> Okay, staff, y'all want to weigh in on that?

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>> Uh, sure. Uh, and I I apologize that I didn't bring it up when I was making the presentation. uh there is this issue there is the request or the developer agreement to grant the condition of use staff doesn't feel that there is a mechanism for a

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development agreement to supersede the authority of the planning board to grant the condition of use uh that's one I one one consideration the other one is that as Jim pointed out we don't know the number of units so you will be approving

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a number of units and the Second thing is that there's no application. >> No what? >> No application for the condition of use. >> But it's up to you. You know, I don't know if city attorney want to add something else.

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>> Fill out an application now. >> So from a a procedural standpoint, really all the boxes have been checked here. You know, they've had the pre-application meeting with staff. Um although it took a different form. We don't have a pending CUP application

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from this applicant. I think that could probably be easily rectified if that's the only procedural thing that is missing here. But from a um procedural standpoint, all the boxes have been checked. Um they have met with staff. Uh

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this has been noticed. It was part of the application that was published out there to the world. So we do have public notice. We are in the midst of a quasi judicial proceeding. Um you have the opportunity for public comment. So in my mind from a legal standpoint, all those

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boxes have been checked. It is within the discretion of this board to go ahead and you know grant that conditional use permit. But just to make sure that we have all those boxes checked, I would encourage the applicant to at the very least fill out the application so we can

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include that in the file. And you, if I may, you certainly can make it a condition of the the PUV if that's um would make uh this board feel mission feel more comfortable. Um having a condition on it saying that, you know,

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the rooms must be um hotel rooms. I mean, that's what we're going to present to you. We're not going to build anything else that's there. So, if you have any thoughts or concerns in the past, I know you've used conditions. would certainly open to a commission other than to say that we would really

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like to be issued CU for those three people. >> Yeah. >> I mean, I'd prefer to do whatever we can to help it move along and not down the road because if I win the lottery, I'm

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out of here. So, I won't be here to make sure, you know, whatever. But I I don't see where there would be a problem with it. and it's all about helping y'all get make this happen. >> And Mr. Chair, if I can make one more

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comment, um just as a bit of information, tell you about progress. So the 211 buildings at Noise, the old Mercuries, we're actually in permitting now with the city and the county. Um this is one of the last steps that's

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been placed in our way in order to obtain uh the permits. So uh we've been told it's it's on fast track. It's moving well uh with the county and I'm sure the same with the city. So, as soon as this box is checked, our opportunity

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now, the last thing we need is to have the permit issued and we're not far uh from it to begin our work here at 211. So, we are making progress and I'm really happy that we've had the cooperation of staff, but things

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take time. So, thank you. Sorry for the interruption. Any further questions? Any Mr. D? >> I'll ask the same question I asked about the earlier tenure item, which is it is it common practice for the board to give cups 10 years in advance of a project

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being completed? >> Or you want to handle that one or >> I I haven't seen that done before. uh and even in another jurisdiction where I worked you know I that's the reason I

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put the way that I wrote in staff report I haven't seen it doesn't mean it's not legal it doesn't mean it's not proper to do it and actually I did put in the staff report that staff will support the condition of use when it comes in front of us when they put an application in

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but I haven't in my experience you know I haven't seen um a development agreement granting approvals that are part of, you know, of the board, in this case, the planning board. But like I said, I don't think there's nothing illegal about it. I think it's probably

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proper. If you want to expedite the process, then you can grant that. >> Yes, sir. >> If I understand right, we're going to give you a conditional use permit for number two up there. >> No, sir.

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>> No. >> No, sir. Number six, Mr. Chair, number six, number seven, and number eight, the James Hotel >> property that will become the James Hotel and number seven. And in number eight, which is the Shelly building for

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the first for the second and third floor, the first floor remains commercial as it is business commercial and the second and third floor would be uh hotels. >> Mr. as well as the the other ones on St. John's the number 5 431

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those already been granted a condition of use of approval by this board. Yeah. >> One I will >> Okay. >> Well, we've kind of I mean if we've already given the other ones a conditional use on those, we've kind of already move forward with that part of

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it, haven't we? >> Right. I mean when I say forward with that part of it I mean it would be no different than moving it doing what doing that already would be no different than what he's asking right now >> right it will be the same process it will be a conditional use they put an

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application in staff will review against the conditional use standard and make it you know make a an analysis and place a recommendation to you. Yes, but it will be the same. >> Chair, could it could it be possible to put this off for two weeks till the next

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meeting so they have time to fill out the applications and submit the addition? I know we keep putting it off, but we can make just this item because it's it's a conditional use permit. It's not part of the packet. >> Miss W. >> So, I I see this as two different

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issues. What is before you today is approval of this PUD agreement. And I I think a up or down vote on that can happen. Um you have the separate issue, you know, it's a request in the agreement. It's not an automatic granting. You have the separate issue of

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the conditional use permit for the 300 block properties which are all in phase two, which is as indicated in the agreement, 10 years out. Um >> up to >> up to up to 10 years out. We do have the

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procedural issue of having the application filled out, but the applicant has indicated that they can do that today. But those are two different items that you're going to be voting on. Um, so when you go to make your motion, you're first going to have the development agreement for the PUD, but

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then you're going to need to make a separate motion to decide on this issue of a conditional use permit. Go ahead, Lorenzo. Actually the first one is uh the PL placement of the plan you develop an overlay >> and the second one is developing again

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>> does that help provide guidance to the board? >> Yes. >> The other question I have to that is if we take the conditional use and put it out do we have to advertise that have to go out for advertisement? I mean

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>> it it does because it it affects dirt, right? So, and and that's in your capacity. It has to be publicly noticed and then it it has to, you know, go through the entire quasi judicial process. >> So, I would say that we probably can't do that tonight, Mr. Troya.

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>> Well, that's that's why I I stated that procedurally he's already met all of those criteria because this was properly noticed and this was referenced in the development agreement. So, as long as he submits your application from a legal

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standpoint, those boxes have been checked >> and have it completed to you before this date is before 5:00 if one is sent to me. Alex to fill it out. >> Okay. Well, I mean, is that okay, Mr. Bliss? >> That that will be acceptable. >> Yep.

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>> Okay. >> I'm in agreement with >> But we need to move forward on what we're doing here with this first and then and then come back to that. >> Yes. Yes. Exactly. Now, you can table it to give the applicant some time to run over and fill out the application. Um,

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you know, however you procedurally want to do that. If you want to take up the next item, >> can may I suggest something? You can also approve it with a condition, you know, that they complete the application before it goes to the city commission. >> So, that will give a gym a time, you

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know, couple days or more, you know, to and then we just I will notify the city commission about the conditions. been met and that should be it. >> Yeah, that suffices. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Got my head spinning.

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>> Um, any further questions, Mr. Tiana? >> I don't. Um, any of our owners group have anything additional? No, sir. Thank you. >> Okay. >> Anybody else got any questions on the board of Mr. Troyano? Anybody? Okay.

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Thank you, Mr. Troy. Is there anybody here that wish that Yes, Mrs. Kitchen? I knew you were coming. That just couldn't I thought you'd left and I knew that that was not >> First of all, let me say I support this project. I had a little bit of heartburn

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when Mr. Trion K and your name and address. >> Kitchen. Thank you. I had a little bit of heartburn when Mr. Trion said it's going to change Pela because it's a black native. The one thing we don't want is to change Palaca in a bad way. But

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seeing their project, it is wonderful. It fits the three-story buildings in the brick front, fits with the historic uh downtown Palaca. And again, if uh the downtown merchants are wise enough to put a historic overlay of downtown, a historic district, this will fit in with

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it perfectly. Uh I'm excited about what they're doing. I don't think there's any harm to it. I've looked through the whole packet. It looks good to me. I think it will be a good thing. Uh the one thing we really like is people to come in and spend money and then leave. And I think this is doing that. Uh I the

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only thing that gives me a little bit of concern, it's not super concerned, but I went through Quint Stutter's program the first time he was here and he was very very adamant about not having the same type use all over Pala. And what I'm seeing is hamburger joints, uh bars and music and hotels in a lot of Pala. But

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given outside of that, I think this is a good project and I do support it. I support the pud. Uh I don't think it's going to be harmful to Palaca. I think it's going to look really good. And I was going to suggest as Mr. uh Agima came up with make their them filling out the application a conditional use of the

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put. They have to Miss West I think said two weeks or make make it a part of the put a condition that they fill out the application in within the next two weeks for the uh CUP and I think that would work fine for everybody. So again I support this. It looks really good and

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uh I'm pleased to have a developer that is not trying to harm active for once. Apparently not trying to harmful active. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Kitchens. Is there anybody else who'd like to speak to this? >> Okay, seeing none, bring it back to the

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board. >> Okay, we've got two things right here in the recommendation. Two items, two things. So, we got to do them separate. >> Yes. >> Correct. >> Yes. >> Okay. And once we get through with that, then we will discuss the seat GP.

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Right. You can put a condition. I'm sorry. Uh you can put a condition on the on your motion to approve the development agreement with the condition that they submit the application for condition and use in the next two weeks or something

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like that. >> Mr. Troya said he could have it denied. >> Yeah, but we don't need to rush. >> It's printed now. That's >> I mean I just I mean >> we don't need to rush. you know that double >> no we're just the application >> Lorenzo the only

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>> the only thing is is I I'm tired of kicking the can down the road >> as far as the board's concerned >> you know and I mean that that's >> I mean we've been we've been kicking this can for a while now and I'd just rather go ahead if we can go ahead and get it done >> and and get out of their hair.

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>> So you send it with with no conditions? Yes. Not with the with the condition with the cud with the cut, you know, doing that, but putting on if we got whatever we got to do, you know. >> Yeah. >> If you want to table it till that what you said, Mr. Wis, table it till they

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get that filled out and then come back to it or >> No. >> So, my recommendation was to put a condition, >> right? the applicants submit the condition and use applications >> on the approval of the development

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agreement and they will have a couple weeks until the city commission meeting >> so they will have to meet the condition >> well that's what I was thinking too but I mean >> let's let's take care of what's in front

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of us right maintain >> and then do we go to the next case and go through and come back to this while he's filling it out instead of us or >> you you have options. You can either go

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ahead and approve it as is with him submitting this application now, right? Or you can condition your motion to say that they will submit it within the next two weeks >> of like a conditional approval.

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>> We're just Let them do that. >> Okay. >> Yes, we can go ahead and make a motion and get that work. >> Go. >> Okay. Okay. I make a motion on what we've been discussing this whole

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time, those addresses and the parcels. really don't want to go back through them, but I do make a motion for the approval of the placement of a planned unit development overlay on subject parcels that's already been

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put down. >> PB case 26-04. >> Thank you. >> I have a motion. Do I have a second? Also >> have a motion and I have a second. All those in favor? Is there any discussion?

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Any further discussion? Okay. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> All those opposed? Seeing none. Motion passes unanimously. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. All right. Moving on to PB case

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26-6. >> No, no, no. We're done. We're not done. We got >> Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Just tell ask me to make a motion again. >> I'm sorry. I am sorry. Make a motion. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Uh Mr. Chair, um I make a motion to um the approval of the

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development agreement between the city and Vex Loan Properties, Inc. >> Have a motion to hear a second. >> Can you repeat motion? is for the approval of the development agreement between the city and Vexloan

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Properties, Inc. Okay. >> Go ahead. >> No, go ahead. >> Go ahead. So, because the development agreement refers to the request for the CUP, you you're going to need to work into that motion

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>> either a condition, okay, that they submit the application within the next two weeks or you're going to >> approve of the CU now. >> Okay. >> As soon as he's done with that application. >> Hurry up. Hurry up. I can't talk very slow.

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>> You need you can go ahead and make the motion. It is advisable to take your planning director's advice and condition it on the submission within the next two weeks. You're still approving of all of it. They just will have some time to get the application >> and pay the fees. >> Yes.

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>> Okay, >> Mr. Walls. >> And pay their fees. >> Don't leave that part out. Huh? >> It's just a it's it is a time frame. And he's right. There is a fee associated with the application. >> Okay. Do I need

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>> So what here what you're saying there's a fee associated with it. Is that what you just said? >> Yeah. A condition application has a fee. >> I just >> Yep. >> Have they paid all their fees already? >> The rest? Yes. Not this one. >> Do you But you're not going to trust them with that.

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I rather like it's like I recommended I rather I feel much more comfortable than rather to you know fill an application at the hearing the public hearing. Never heard of that before. >> Okay. That's what I wanted to hear. >> I feel much more comfortable. >> That's what I've asked the whole time.

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>> Put the condition to the approval that they submit the application before city commission public hearing. >> Okay. >> With a fear. He's he's not going to limit.

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>> Okay. Um, do I need to go back and do that again and then add this to it? >> I think that would be >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Mr. Chair, >> okay. I make a motion for the approval of the

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development agreement between the city and Beex Loan Properties, Inc. and to approve the conditional use permit. Wait, I wrote notes. conditional use

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the conditional use permit with the condition for them to the applicant to submit the application before the next city commission. >> Perfect. >> Point of inquiry before completion. >> Good morning. >> Thank you, Mr. Don. >> I just need to know if we need to list

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what the cups are as opposed to leaving it buried open. >> Okay, Miss West. >> Yes. And so for clarification of the record, this will be and just give me a minute here. >> 245. >> I'm trying to find the page numbers

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where you made your humble request, Mr. Troyo. >> Page five. >> Thank you. >> Humble request. >> Heard a lot of things about you, but humble. This will be for the issuance of

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a CP for 300 St. John's A for 301 Reed Street and 320 St. John's. >> Does it need to be clarified by me? >> I just did it for >> Okay. Thank you.

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>> Okay. We had the motion. Did you second it, Mr. or Earl? Which one of you? One of y'all seconded just minute ago, did you not? >> Mr. Wallace. >> Yeah, Mr. I thought >> I made the motion. >> Okay. All right. Motion's been sec made

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and seconded. So, any further discussion with the board? >> One last clarification. >> Okay. I knew it was coming. >> Okay. Well, I'm a new board member, so I want to make sure I get I want to make sure I get it right. you have that >> um

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sorry he threw me off with that. >> I'm sorry that was a joke. Okay, I apologize. So the cups are simply for the allowance of hotel rooms and the general commercial business on that on the first floors and not not a

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porticochet or >> no it's only I'm sorry let me make clarification >> it's only for the hotel unit because that is what is a conditional use >> in the zi district that they have >> so it is only for the hotel units. Okay.

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Thank you. >> Good. >> Second. >> Got two seconds. >> Second. Second. >> All right. I'm not going to ask this again. We have a second. A motion and a second. All those in favor signify by

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saying I. I. >> I. >> All those opposed? Seeing none opposed. Motion passes unanimously. Now >> y'all need to tighten up because I'll be bes >> or maybe even nerves.

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>> Thank God. Okay, now we can move on to PB case 26-06. Request to amend the future land use designation of 9.03 03 acres from city of Palaca commercial to city of Palaca

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residential low and reszone acres of from the city of Palaca general commercial district to city of Palaka single family residential district for partials number 02-10-26-7720- 01

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>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. >> Mr. Mr. chairman. U I'd like to take the opportunity to introduce our new uh staff member of the planning department, Michael Hill. He's the senior the new senior planner for the city and he's

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going to make the presentation on this project. He's the project manager for this resoning. So with that, Michael. >> Thank you, Lorenzo. >> Good afternoon, Mr. Chair. Michael Hill, senior planner for the planning department. As you guys see here, we have a future land use amendment and a

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reszoning request or a request to the zoning map. Basically, we're going from city of palaca commercial to uh city palaca residential low density in the future land use element. And then after that, we are going from a zoning change of city of palaca c1, which is general commercial zoning to a city of pela r1,

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which is single family residential zoning. If you look at in our in our staff report, you can see that we have attached a future land use map and a existing zoning map and also an aerial. And as you can see that historically there's both residential uses all around the area. So essentially this will be a

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changing of of commercial to residential. Um, we conducted an analysis both for the future land use element and also for the zoning amendment change within our land development code and the cap the city's comprehensive plan and we have concluded that the application has met all of the guidelines within the comprehensive plan

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and the land development code for the zoning amendment and so therefore staff is going to give its recommendation that you approve this future. >> You slow down just a little bit. >> My apologies. >> I could hear that. I could see that coming.

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>> Yeah. Yeah, my apologies board member Wallace. I will back it up. So staff has conducted the analysis as you guys have see in our in our report here. We have provided a future land use map of both current and ex of existing excuse me of

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current and future changes and also for the zoning of existing zoning and future change. And so as you can see that essentially this is going to be a a downzoning in our guidelines. And so when we go here and do the analysis for this kind of application, we're going to jump into the city's comprehensive plan

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to ensure that the guidelines are going to be met there within within the comprehensive plan because as you know the comp plan sets the long range planning planning goals when it comes to planning. And we're also going to go to the land development code to check the zoning because again there is a section for zoning map amendments. And as you

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can see here that you know again you're going to single family residential with historic single family residential use. And so therefore, after conducting that analysis on both the comprehensive plan and the land development code, we have concluded this application meets both those guidelines and we recommend approval of the future land use change

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from city of Palaca comma residential low and the zoning change from city of Palaca C1, which is general commercial to city of Palaca R1 residential single family. Um the applicant is here in the uh audience. If you have any questions for him, he'd be more than happy to give

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a presentation. If you have any questions for staff, I will be here to answer them. Answer them at any time. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> The applicant would let applicant like to step forward and speak. Uh oh. >> Good afternoon, planning board members

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and staff. My name is Carl Flag. Address is 2601 Fairway Drive, Palaca, Florida 32177. I serve as senior pastor of Mount Table First Baptist Church and I speak on behalf of the officers, the trustees of Mount Table First Baptist Church. We're

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here to request and to recommend that you accept the recommendation of your staff so that this case uh for the future land use designation change as well as the zoning change uh be approved so that this property uh is uh in

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compliance and compatible to the surrounding properties. Once this property is developed, it will bring up the quality of the entire area off of Moody Road and St. John's Avenue. And um that's our case. >> Okay.

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>> Thank you. >> Anybody on the board have any questions of Pastor Flag? >> Okay. Thank you, pastor. Is there anybody here that would like to speak for it? Miss Kitchens. Al kitchens black in Florida. Um I knew

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the original developer of this plan and it was originally developed as uh sub is residential single family. So I fully support this. I hope you'll pass. Thank >> you. Is anybody else has anything to say or ask question?

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Bring it back to the board. What's your pleasure? >> Mr. Chair, I'll make a motion if I may. >> I'm glad you're back, Mr. bars. Go ahead. >> Mr. Chair, as it pertains to all the parcels included in PBK's 26-06, I would like to move that this board

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approved the request to amend the future land use map from city of Flaca commercial to city of Flaca residential low density. >> I have a motion by Mr. Barnes. Do I have a second? >> Second by Mr. Dolan. Any discussion amongst the board? Seeing none, my only

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discussion go any idea how many unit how many units it might be? down the road. >> Mr. Chair, if I may. >> Yes, sir. >> So, sir, currently right now with the size and the dimensional criteria set forth in the R1 zoning district,

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essentially um I want to say if I'm correct, it's 6,000 square ft in size with I think a minimum of 60 foot wide lot. So, at the most with the nine acres, you're probably only going to get maybe at most 10 houses,

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but amongst the all nine, it's probably >> on on one of these overhead photographs, page 30 or 40, there's 48. >> Yeah. So, those are platted lots. So, if you look if you look at my staff report, this is from a very old subdivision that

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was platted in 1929. What ended up happening over time is that the lots were combined and reconfig. Okay. So, those are the historic lot lines. Now, if they if they reszone it back, they can go to those historic lot lines. Okay. But they still are going to have to meet the dimensional crit. No, no,

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no. Residential. When we bring it to residential, those historic lot lines, they're allowed to do that. The only way they can amend those historic lot lines is if they do the replatting process, which will be very costly. So what they will end up doing is is that they can go to those lot lines and they can put a single family home, but those lots still

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have to be able to meet the R1 criteria. >> These are legal lot of records. They've been platted as as single family homes. Then they could develop, you know, one single family home for each lot. >> They could I concur. They absolutely could.

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>> Mhm. >> Okay. Did we get a second on that? >> I'll second. >> Okay. So, we have a motion and a second. Um, yes, we did because I asked for discussion. I'm sorry. Um,

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any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. All those opposed. Seeing none, motion passes unanimously. Thank you, >> Mr. Chair, if I may. >> Yes. Um, as it pertains to all parcels

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included in PB and PB case 26-06, I move that this board approve the request to amend the zoning map from City of Palaca General Commercial C1 to City of PLA single family residential R1. >> I have a motion by Mr. Barnes. Do I have a second?

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>> Second by Mr. D. Is there any discussion on the board? Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. I. I all those opposed seeing none. Motion passes unanimously. >> So

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now we move to I guess we need to go to our tidying up part of the board. Right. So we have we have come down from we have come down from nine members to seven >> five members and one alternate

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>> one one five members and one alternate and we have to decide who is going to be the alternate >> correct because you have six members now >> right >> can we discuss what does the alternate do is it you get called in when Alex

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knows there's not going to be quum or or what we have to So I I will tell you what my experience has been with alternates. Um it is generally encouraged that they attend every meeting so they have an idea of

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how the board conducts itself and they're apprised of all the issues facing the board at any given moment and they're not just thrown into it willy-nilly. That is definitely my strong advice for an alternate. Um, however, it's it's not mandatory that

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they attend. Um, but they certainly would be called in if it looks like we've got our quorum threatened >> and they don't get to vote. >> They do. >> Unless they're brought up, >> unless they're right. Just for clarity, um let's say four

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members show up plus an alternate. Does that alternate come up or does the alternate only come up when there's not a qu? >> No, the alternate would come up if there's a board member. >> Do we flip a coin? >> I'm fine falling on the dagger. Uh for now, it doesn't matter to me, but I'm

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open to it. >> It's up to y'all. Well, um, Mr. Bernett's not here to weigh in on this, but you know, >> I mean, well,

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>> give me something, guys. >> Well, okay. We don't know what Andy's thinking. Andy might be thinking that he might not want to do it down the road or something. I don't know. We don't really know what Andy's thinking. >> Can we possibly table it until we have a

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full portion? I was going to suggest that maybe take table it to next month when Andy's here and everybody can make a full discussion about it. >> Miss Jane, we can always change this later, right? If as board members come and go. So, do you want to make a decision today so we're in compliance today and then we can alter it next

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meeting or is it best to wait till next week next meeting to make a decision? >> I I would like for you to be in compliance immediately. But, um, you you can absolutely by way of motion change your alternate at any point. So,

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you know, my my preference would be for you to be in full compliance. >> Mr. Chair, for the sake of compliance, I move that I be the alternate uh for the time being. >> Okay. Mr. Barnes has made a motion to second to that motion. >> Back up by Miss Wilson. All those in any

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discussion, any further discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. I. >> All those opposed? Seeing none. Motion passes unanimously. Okay. Um staff, do you any staff comments?

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>> I don't have any comments. Thank you, >> West. Okay. Any board members got any comments? >> I do. >> Okay. Go ahead. >> It pertains to a question from the last city commission meeting and this is for clarification on um what's considered

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city adjacent properties. I thought it meant coming from adjacent property. So meaning my next door neighbor on this side or my next door neighbor on that side, this side that side or if there's a street connection in front. So if it's being connected from either

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side of your house, doesn't that meet the qualifications for correct annexation? Yes, it does. There's two requirement. You have to be adjacent to the city boundaries in order to annex So, and then you cannot create an enclave. So,

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for clarification, if you have a county road on one side of your property and a county road, >> the road doesn't doesn't interrupt, you know, the the >> Yeah, cuz you have no creat. >> No, that's what I thought. I just I'm trying to understand why the board the commission didn't accept our

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recommendation. Well, they didn't take an action on it. It was it was continued to the next meeting because the applicant, you know, didn't show up to the meeting, but there was a little bit of discussion with Commissioner Jones about it. He was asking questions. I thought one of the

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questions he had was whether the road was county road or was the road and who was doing the maintenance on it. >> Yes, Mr. Walls. >> The question that they had wasn't about it being continuous. It was just

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the didn't show up so they t >> That's right. There is a policy that the the city commission passed that the applicant that comes in if you have an application in front of the city commission the applicant has to be present in order to address the board

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or an agent representative whoever authorized but if they don't have one then the commission you know just table to them not not table but continue to the next meeting >> thank you I was not aware but >> that's what happened with this I heard they had turned it down.

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>> No, >> because it was continuous. >> No, no, no. I think I was very clear to to the commission that it is contiguous. I wouldn't bring a, you know, an annexation to you. If it wasn't contiguous, you know, the planning board would have never seen it because I would

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have not brought it to you. So, it was very clear that it meets the the the requirements of the statute. It was contiguous. It didn't create an enclave. Uh the commission issue was that the applicant was not present. So it's going to be considered at the next meeting on

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the 14. Let me ask you, if it's turned down for some reason, what are they going to do? Go out there and rip up all the water lines? >> It's already got the water lines. >> Well, that's what they want. The the applicant needs that wants to connect to

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the to to the city water. In order to do that, they had to annex. >> I I just thought that as >> Yeah. >> Okay. Any further questions? Anything? Okay. >> Make a motion. >> We adjourn. Their

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