6, 2005, 4:00 in the afternoon. Um, do we have I guess Pastor Moberry with us? Um, well then I'll go ahead and do the invocation and I'll ask Mr. Barnes, if you'll do to the pledge of allegiance,
please stand if you can. And Father, we come to you now and just ask for wisdom, Lord God. We ask for you to give us the the wisdom that we need to do what we need to do. And uh help the city of Pala move forward. Ask
this in Jesus name. Amen. Thank you. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Just for the record, as Chase Barnes did the pledge, would you do the roll call, please? Excuse me. Mrs. here. Mr. Barnes here. Okay. Thank you very much. At this time, anybody on boards
had any exparte communications that they need to reveal? if you would please. Hand me a big note there. Okay, seeing none, we'll move on. Um, we need the approval of the minutes from the April
1st. Um, but it doesn't state in the minutes who made the motion and it says it was seconded by me. Um, I made the motion and I don't know who seconded. So, I just wanted to make that a third motion. That's another motion.
Yeah. And that's all that all you or you correct that too. Go ahead. Sorry. So motion to recommend the amendment of the district boundary plume designated by county urban services to single
multi-residential R3. This tenant should say the motion was made by me and then seconded by I don't know the we'll check the records and made the correction. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. Correction.
With that correction, Mr. Mr. Chair, I make a motion we approve the minutes. I have a motion of second. Motion, Mr. Wilson. Second. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. All those opposed seeing none unanimously pass.
Okay. Um and also I need to read my little verbiage thing. Um, any person wishing to appeal any decision made by the planning board with respect to any matter considered at such meeting will need a record of the proceedings and for
such purpose may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made. Which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is based? Statutes 286-05. Now we move into is there anybody in the
audience who would like to make public comment on just anything in general right now? Okay. And then I'll close the public comment. We'll move on to regular business um PBK 25-03 request to amend the future land
use map and resume 2.39 acres and a.12 acres. Ah there you are. Yes, sir. Good afternoon, Chairman Killer Brew and planning board members. Um, this application, there's a request to amend
the future length investigation reservation and also multifamily to conservation district. The 2.39 acre parcel and 0.12
acre parcel are owned by the city of land within the municipal limits. The properties composation the post 45 and the public buildings are located to the west. Properties are bounded by Krill Avenue
to the north, more street to the east, and current street to the south. Table one proposed future designations. Figures one and two will show existing and proposed to future
language. Stat 163 states that certain criteria becatory classification western portion of just subject partial to conservation would not contribute to
across section 948 requirements and recommendations of the planning board to the city commission as requirements by subsection 38 that the planning board has relation to the following to you
again. request district designation from the city of PLA residential city the parcel 4210 staff request to amen the
district's boundary designation of City of Black to City of Black and Coneration be approved for 4210 0 R37. 146 recommend the request on city of
black and multi residential to city 148. The applicant is the city of October face. Anyone have any questions? Yes. Okay. So, this proposal was brought about just an effort to save green
space, correct? Uh, essentially. Essentially. So, there's more to it. Can you elaborate as to what else is involved? I can provide a little bit of context. Um, currently, as noted here, it's zone multifamily residential and I
frequently receive offers from real estate investors and speculators to acquire city own property that might not be us and um with that current zoning potentially.
It's on consider historic district to be basically area. Um if you were to ever drive by it's it's actually more similar to drops down and water coming off of krill flows into creek. So if it was
developed it would cause potential flooding. Okay. Well, that that was my question. You know, future uses um because it's this is an ideal piece of property uh or could be in the future. What um in my dealings previously with conservation
land once you deem it a conservation classification, it's you need, you know, Congress and God and the stars to align to change it. Um, is that the case versus a lack of conservation or is this a simple reasonzoning where the board
could if for some reason if they wanted to designate it something different in the future could come back for the board as it is now to to unwanted spring. Well, the process is spell out in the Florida statutes, you know, to get the resulting back. So, we have to go through the same process.
And you may be thinking of a conservation easement which does actually have significant purpose in terms of what you might want to do. It's simply go ahead. Okay. So I mean it's the piece that I
think it's the ravine right there at the curve, right? Okay. So what usable I mean, they would have to fill that in and do something because all of that, if you'll look at it when you go by there, it all goes out here. And when we were
kids, there was, if you I don't know if you remember or not, there was a putt putt golf course there. And it was the old I mean, it didn't have any of the animals and stuff that we have now. It was just old had boards and and it had 18hole putt golf course there. I
remember going there as a kid and that's the only thing that I ever remember being on that piece of property was that put P put P put P put P put P put P put P put P put P put P put golf course and I think that it would be I mean in my person in my personal opinion I think it would be the best thing for us to do in what they're
wanting to do. Yes, Mr. Walls. You're assuming everybody's as old as you are. people. There's some people in this room that are older than I know. God, I remember playing. That's right. And that
drains back up there. And bounced all of the drainage through there and over the parks north of there. If you notice that creek is never dry. It comes the water's coming out of that drainage pipe up underneath
the railroad track. The water's continually coming out of there. That's all of those stood before. Yes. It plays a big role. Put those signs up that says unc. But that's okay. Okay. Okay.
Um so the short answer is that is we're not bound in perpetuity for this to be conservation. It could be undone if it were appropriate later to do so. That's correct. You would have to follow the same process. And and just to add a little bit to to to the discussion, uh
it is zone R3 today. It it is owned by the city and the city have no intention of developing this into a residential development. So therefore, you know, the conservation destination is the property designation. Fair enough.
Question. Okay. Miss Kitchens is back here just waving her arms in the air. you would like to speak to to us to this Lake kitchens 1027 South 12th Street Pala Florida and I just want to expound
on what Earl Wallace said uh that not only it's not just a creek it's Oyola Creek and it does drain the acreage but it's 399 acres the hill area behind uh the overpass behind Paint Bryant Park and if Ocyola Creek is blocked at that
ravine then not only would it back up and flood flood avenue. It would flood all around Hank Bryant Park and all the way up. And the reason it's always uh full of water and never dry. It's a springfed creek. There's springs all over that hill area where the overpass has this hill for the hill area of
platform and that is Ociola Creek and it goes that ravine. It goes under Kirby Street and it goes under Florida furniture and it comes out but everybody thinks it's a ditch beside the lift station on River Street is actually the rest of hospital and that drains on the 45.9 acres supposed to be Cypress that
drains and for 399 acres of collat the reason it floods under the underpass is there is an artisian well 9 ft under the middle of the underpass and there's also a spring leaks down the side the leakage used as another spring and all that's part of all of in the future ever somebody ever was stupid enough to
develop and fill it in, it can cause massive flooding. So, it must never be filled in and developed. And it's very very important to keep that ravine open and to make sure that the flow of gossip and drains that area flat. Thank you. Thank you,
M. Your yellow card that you got in your hand. Can you Yeah, I need you. I don't mind that. I remember a golf course there. I don't remember being on that particular I thought it was across the street where Gus's drive in wasn't over there. It was
on that side. Yeah, little golf. It was right there on Morris Street. Okay. Right there. Right there on the little about where this uh South Historic District sign is. I remember that. Okay. Go in. I mean that's I would anybody
else like to speak to this or for it for for it or against it before we get too deep in the weeds here and I get called down by the lawyer. Um okay well seeing none I
will take back to the board. Um what is what is your privilege Mr. Chair if I may? Um, in reference to both parcels mentioned in this case, um, I recommend that this board approve the request to amend the district boundary
future land use designation from city black residential high to black and conservation. Is that a motion by Mr. Barnes and a second by Mr. Wallace? Is there any further
discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I Mr. All those all those opposed seeing none motion passes unanimously. Yes, Mr. BS. Mr. Chair, second that I in
reference to both parcels mentioned in this case. I move that this board approve the request to reszone uh both parcels from city of Palaca multifamily residential R3 to city of black conservation. We have a motion by Mr. Barnes, a second
by Mr. Wallace. Any further discussion by the board. Okay. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. All those opposed seeing none. Motion passes [Music] unanimously. Got to read it. I'm sorry.
I forgot. You're fine. I don't want to be I don't want to make somebody mad. Um, sorry, I'm feeling a little antagonistic today. Um, we move on to PB case
25-04. Request to amend the future land use map and reszone 0.16 acres for multif family residential district to public buildings and grounds district PB J located on Krill Avenue.
Yes sir, Mr. Chair. So the applicant is the city of Pala. Again, the request would amend the future land use map designation from city of Palaka residential home RH to public buildings and grounds resone from confirmed
residential R3 to public buildings in R district 1. The 0.16 acre parcel is owned by the city and located at the intersection of Krill Avenue and Oyola Street. The site is currently vacant and
it butts the West View Cemetery which is also owned by the city. Um, as mentioned in the previous application, there is a river rain approximately 90 ft in length that runs avenue from the west property line
to be open one proposed land use the existing and proposed land use. statute. That's the criteria. with
opportunity and that um public buildings and grounds distributed lands and areas with 438 subsection 38 ship relation to the following criteria.
83 request to amend the district from the city of Black Resort 427510 Staff recommends a request to residential three710. questions. I have one quick one if I may. I look at
this property much the same as the previous one. Why did we choose different clims and zoning for this property versus the prior? Sure. The Westview Cemetery which abuts this subject parcel is on PBG1.
So that's what okay if I might add it basically the nature of this future line is amendment resone is corrective in nature uh I don't know why it was thrown the way it is zone it it looks like it was left out
but this little parcel is part of the cemetery And that what we're trying to do is to make it consistent designation, a consistent zodia. Okay. So it's basically correct in nature. So my my only question and again
this might just be some answers but why didn't we do the previous one the same PB one versus conservation. I'm just curious because this is a public use. This is a public the cemetery is a is had the correct zoning. Fair.
Well, that didn't quite answer my question, but I'll get with you later. I mean, that is the correct zone in the other one was residential high is R3 and it's opening city. Like you said, city
has no intent of developing that to the country. we need to preserve it in order to you know for the for the drainage you know consideration and also you know because it's a beautiful parcel of land you know with not very nice vegetation so it's in the best interest
of the city to have conservation destination on that part so not on this one this little piece was left now I don't know why 2008 but it is the public that's complications as part of the cemetery. Okay.
Yeah, I'm good. Yeah. Any further questions? St. Is there anybody in the audience that would like to speak to or for this or against this? Seeing none, I will bring it back
to the board for a motion. Mr. If I may, in reference to the parcel mentioned in this case, uh I move that this board recommend or approve the the request to amend the district boundary future land use map designation from city of Paka
residential high RH to city of Paka public buildings and grounds PB. Second have a motion by Mr. Barnes and second by Mr. Wallace. There any further discussion with the board? See, all those in favor signify
by saying I. I. All those opposed. So, I got that, but you came back with an A, too. Okay. Motion passes. M. Mr. P, if I may also in reference to the same parcel,
um, I move that this board approve the recommendation to, uh, reszone this parcel from city of PLA multif family residential R3 to city of PLA public buildings and grounds PP1 have a motion to have a
second Mr. Bar motion Mr. All is seconded. Any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. All those opposed. Motion passes [Music]
unanimously. We will move on to PB case. Oh, gracious change hands. PBK 25-06 request to reszone 0.34 acre from city of black commercial neighborhood
district 1A to city of black to single family residential district R1. Take it away. Good afternoon everyone. is located back to the res district has been used as an office in
the past. Therefore, Current commercial designation COM be changed to resone density R. The analysis of both the future land map
amendment and resoning is in this report which is part both the future land use map and the resoning are consistent with the proper homes and plan staff recommends the approval of the amendment to the future land use map
and approval to the res to res. If you do have any questions on the board have any questions like to speak to the board? No. Okay. Just I wasn't quite sure. I
thought you were that but I just wasn't quite sure about that. So, okay. Um, is there anybody here that would like to speak 2.4 or against this? Okay, saying that break back to the board with your pleasure. Mr.
reference to the property located 2405 Pleasant Street. Um, I move that this board approve the request to amend the future land use map from City of Pala commercial to city of Pala residential low density art. Motion by Mr. Barnes. Do I have a
second? Second by Mrs. Wilson. Is there any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. All those opposed. Same time. Motion passes unanimously.
Mr. Chair, in reference to the same parcel, um I move that this board uh approve the request to reszone the property. uh from commercial neighborhood district C1A to residential single family
R1 Mr. Bars second by Mrs. Wilson. Any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. All opposed
cla motion passes unanimously. Okay. Congratulations, sir. Right. Yes. 2025 comprehensive plan update. That is correct, Mr. Chairman. I'm very
pleased to introduce to you our consultants uh JB Pro, Nick, and Kathy. Been working with us few months now. um completing the process updated the comprehensive grounds from the state to
fulfill this this Awesome. compensate mandated masterision providers current perspective on what they as well implement is obviously a lot to do. There's a lot of different topics that
obviously be addressed actually provides us guidance on what topics need to be addressed individual chapters. No problem. Which we call elements in the conference planning world. zoning that are currently adopted in the city of
Palachi today for future land use recreation and open space conservation public facilities and government coordination capital agreements and private property rights once again all shing are required elements of the plan according to
actions publicly the city has also realized that historic preservation and economic development will play a critical role in this city's future and therefore deserves its own government as additional option. We can hear you. I don't know if anybody else can.
All right. Be pretty. Yeah. Sure. Thank you for that. Yeah. Absolutely. So need to be addressed. What is the grant asking us to do? Well, we need to do a few things as part of this grant. We need to make sure that
documents are implemented successfully through the plan. We need to reevaluate. We need to state that changes have been made planning which impacts your plan what it
needs to address. You also need to consider future growth and what that looks like and how can we accommodate that and then also we need to be unity but how address actually within the comprehensive plan. So each element of the comprehensive plan actually has
two components. The first is the data analysis that is the factual basis for all of your work in the comprehensive plan. where you can decide where you're going. You need to understand where you are here today. Right? So that's really what that work is in
second for each of the elements. Understanding the existing conditions impacting the community here today. Second is more your planning mechanism. That is your goals, objectives, and policies. What you in terms of a planning document what you have got a
future decision made in. Now, past several months, as we'll talk about here shortly, you've been working diligently with your staff in several departments to update the data, the analysis or that basis for the plan for
the just a very few employment that we found so far this project. One of the first things we did was establish population projections. Now the state of Florida and their Florida statute actually has very clear guidelines on how you should be
calculating protected populations and whatever you do. So we have best practices and we actually have that we prepared which I'm sure staff and will be happy to provide to you that walks you through step by step by step this number according to Florida
statutes using provided by the United States Census Bureau and Beaver at the University of Florida which is the state's leading population projection agency actually mentioned by the human statutes. So through that process we develop population projections from down all the way through your planning
horizon in 2045. As you can see on that table above your functional population which is a combination of your permanent and cities residents is projected to be approximately 11,000 people right now. And through the 2045 horizon we project
going upwards of 13,000. So a little less than 2,000 new residents or approximately 20% for sale population gain. We also wanted to speak to you a little bit about some of the findings of our existing land use analysis. So now
talking about future language, the regular just how land is being utilized today. According to information provided by property appraiser as well as our analysis we found over 24.9% of the city's current use is being used for government purposes. 12% is for
single family residential 11% for agriculture and 10.7% for several other existing lands. We did not trail this slide but you can just below 6% of the city's total beta. One I
did want to note to you as well is there is currently 21.9% of the city's total land area or 1200 acres is vacant which means that we're going to play in just a second. Now that a lot of that vacant
land though for what we classify as vacant has lanes on it sensitive. It also has wetlands on it. that this land is valuable for your conservation needs, your natural
outcome, your flood plan. And so we did consider that as well. So things the state of Florida actually asked us to look at is what is the carrying capacity so to speak of your future land use mount. Basically what is developable
within your vacant lands by subtracting out the flood lines and your wetlands and what would be the maximum density and wealth and square footage that would be allowed based upon your future land use map
alone. not considering zoning it, just the future land use of all those developable vacant lands. And through that process, we were able to calculate it out, as you can see about that table that we included from our report, that there was approximately
3,000 additional units possible within those developments, which would result in approximately 7,000 new residents. You might that we projecting 2,000 new residents into the city by 2045. So the
future landing according to this analysis has enough capacity to support our new growth within the city. Now is it going to support growth in the best way? We don't know. That's exactly what we're doing. The comprehensive plan process. want to examine their goals,
objectives, and policies to make sure it's best practices for how that growth should occur and make sure it's consistent with your community's vision on how should occur. And then residential care capacity. So doing the same thing, looking at the future land use, commercial and other
non-residential land use, it's not your future land use or the developable vacant plants gets you 22 million square feet of non residential uses. Moving on to the timeline. One thing I just want to quickly reiterate is this
is a grant funded project, right? So we have to hold them to the standards and timelines established by the grant. Now can tell you including you know especially Lorenzo here because he's been working with us the past several months. The grant deadlines that they've
established as part of that grant are not conducive to things like public engagement in workshops. We must meet these deadlines. We've been working with staff to do that. As you can tell, that data and analysis. We submitted by that green check mark. We submitted before
the deadline in March because we were required to send out address and we have successfully sent them a draft by that deadline. They gave us a few comments very. But then we addressed those immediately and say gave them them with multiple days of spare deadline and we
got those approved. Now the reason why that data analysis shows additional time is because we want you the city to review that data analysis. Yes, this data approved it already but we want you that is the planning board the city commission um and all the members of the
public to also have a view of the data analysis before we finalize. But yes, technically we met the requirements of the grant. We do have a few additional deadlines that you need to be aware of and that is the first one is in May of May May of this year at the end of May.
They want the draft directives and policies a draft of that given to them by the end of May. So once again they want the data analysis done and a single month after the data analysis is done they want the entire plan
rewritten. So we're going to meet that deadline. We're going to help the city meet that deadline. We're going to do that for you and we're going to give that a draft and therefore we're going to give it providers comments and we are going to address them with them. However, after we meet those deadlines successfully, we're going to bring it
right back to you the community and do some community engagement, do a public workshop, come back to you as the planning board and do a more of a workshop setting with you come to the student commission and do a workshop with them all prior to the year process. So that we're meeting the grant
deadlines. We still have opportunities for public engagement which is very important. We bring that for a workshop. We bring to the city commission for a workshop before we ever go into the public that have as much time as we need for refinance. We're projecting that's going
to take us through the end of July to start the adoption process in August. And once that is a 60-day state review who will be as part of our interbased amendments and so we suspect a final adopted package come to the city
division. too long. All I have for the update for you today was a brief [Music] presel as we move forward. Thank you, sir. Absolutely. Questions. I'm just getting
down and I'm tired. audience. Yes, question. I ask you believe7 on your chart you show 24.9% government in the city include anything
county and 30 these for years a little or did you use it to your office or how do you figure Great question. Thank you for that. So that data came directly from the property appraisers office. They provide
tax parallel data and GIS forming. We had an extensive GIS team here at JB Pro and myself and personally Jacob Baldwin took behind me. First, we went in and verified as much as we could all of that acreage that was being told it's
governmental. Of course, if you know anything about they do it basically as governmental, quasi governmental, they have different classifications for governmental. So anything that they identify as governmental we included in this analysis. We did provide a visual
overview of the of the entire city in terms of how platforming we use this. We went through it. We confirmed with staff as best we could. Um is this accurate in terms of what the property appraiser is reporting and we did the make changes as needed. But of course if any additional
changes are needed, we're happy to have that as part of this effort. That's one as far. Oh, just to thank them. You know, just doing a fantastic job. Uh, it's been a pleasure working with them and I'm
pretty sure we're going to take process. Okay. Yes. Did y'all understand much of this as I did? Well, that none of this is surveyor. I'm sure you Oh, wait a minute. I'll take that back. I've had two real estate
agents to my right, so they probably understood it even more than we did. So, and that and that's no nothing to you is a complex that requires us to address. We make sure that as part of the goals, objectives, policies update
as a public that we try to tone down the language so to speak as much as we can and that's one of our objectives as part of this. So if you have any questions about concepts for this presentation in the future, please don't
hesitate to ask. We're happy to explain. We're planning on sale. We just like that people actually care. Okay. I have a question. What what do we do in situations where we have um discrepancies between the
comp plan zoning and the code? Um yeah, we just did this with the city of Wilston as part of our part of our projects working for them. really want to start at the very top level with that vision. I think a lot of kudos to the city for starting with the vision on
getting where we want to be. The plan is your overarching master plan for the community. So that comes down um because that informs what you actually put in the land development code. So traditional happens and it's actually required by Florida statutes you update
to the comprehensive plan and you follow up with the land development code update. As part of the code update, you investigate things like your zoning and identify inconsistencies. As part, you know, we or you decide to be in house with your consultant. If you find
discrepancies between the future land use and a zoning, you can certainly address some of that at the comprehensive plan and zoning level, particularly at your land development code update. Um, however, if there's a history of that site, if it's private property owners involved and it's privately initiated, that's a little bit
more complex and deserves its own special attention, you know, heavy tool, you know, the change. But we're happy to help, you know, us questions. Yep.
Dr. advocate for the director of planning. So if there are you know after we predict the conference plan is next level the next level based on the changes that your
conference plan is warranted which is what you are speaking of um then yeah that is the fact that just today um city of coast to do a comprehensive plan that we worked with
them for the last two years and in two weeks from now they will be entering into a contract with us to update. So the city of Boston as mentioned another community working
and working with the town updating their land the RPC did their comp plan years ago now we're seeing opportunities and consistency so complaint to adjust the plan. But it's
always in a rare that you do an update to your compensating everyone policy that you don't have some level of to your code and that is you know something that
we didn't very quickly after after this state and that's because services contain um we are aware that we have a lot of
discrepancy between our future use designations and the zone and that's one of the reason we that we're trying to get all of into the soy control you
know and potentially bring more but we're going to try to address you know this update trying to clean as much as we can but we know that that's going to have to come when we do the land regulation when
we update on our It's that heat, you know, to be at the it's very quick. Uh we need to bring it to the 21st century uh and be consistent with the boxes that we be adopting as
part of the update to the complex whether or not people understand. We have language. We um you know I myself for almost 30 years I
think we're pretty close ourselves to say we understand this is very complex. Um, one of the things that our firm works very hard, we spent most of my career in the public sector, uh, working local jurisdictions and we
worked really hard to try and make sure people understand we don't want to walk people don't want to just be doing more workshops. We've been on a very schedule right now because of the state requirements for this
grant. We're looking forward to the separate slow down a little bit and come back out even more. So, but if you ever anyone who has any questions, please contact Mr. Lorenzo and he can get in touch with me. I know that Nick would be
happy to sit down and walk through the document, walk through them so we can help you understand where we're getting this information. Um, and if you have any questions or you see something that needs to be updated, let us know. This is your call. We're just we're just here to help service and help you with that,
but this is your place. So, we want you to understand this and please don't let us walk away and tell you. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Well, I would move to get a move to adjourn the meeting, but I see Miss Carte, our city manager, has joined us
trying to be quiet. Yeah, you're fine. But I just thought in the board of comments, if you'd like to get up, I was being quiet. First of all, I'm going to say
thank you to Lorenzo. This is what you wrote the agreement for. Correct. That's correct. Yes. So, I personally say thank you and I want you to be acknowledged for the effort that you're
serving in the city of Jos and city government for just you know supporting the city's efforts. Okay. Uh we call ourselves team Palaka and about that our first commitment is
to the city of Pala. I like to watch everything. She does. She does. I feel comfortable that whatever they're doing is reflective of
what we all want the best. Thank you very much for your I want you to continue and please give us the best possible. Thank you. comments.
No, I'm sorry. No, I don't have Thank you. Okay. All right. Well, then I will entertain a motion for dismissal or Thank you. The word left me. Mr. Chair, I move we adjourn. Thank you. We are
adjourned. Turn head of us.