ready. All right. It is now 1:30 on Tuesday, uh, February 17th, 2026. We're going to commence the proceedings before the special magistrate for code enforcement for the city of Palatka. By way of introduction, my name is Ron Brown. I am an attorney licensed in the
state of Florida. Pursuant to state statute and city code, I've been appointed by the city commission of city palad to preside over today's proceedings. Yeah, everybody needs to silent cell phones, please. This is being this is being recorded, so it's important that
we have a clean record. This is a um a hearing where the city is going to be making presentations concerning alleged violations of city code, presenting some evidence and testimony in support of those allegations. The respondents who are here will have an opportunity to present
any evidence and testimony that they may have regarding the allegations and ask any questions they may have of the city uh with regard to uh the the matters that are before us. Uh this is not a formal court of law. We're not bound by the formal rules of evidence or the formal rules of civil procedures you
might find in the local courthouse. We are bound by law, however, by the basic notions of due process and fairness. And that requires that uh we have make sure everybody has an opportunity to be heard, that everybody has an opportunity to know the charges that are being brought and to see the evidence and
testimony that's being presented. They also have an opportunity to ask any questions that they may have. The other thing that's important is that all of the evidence that is presented be what is called substantial and competent evidence. That is evidence that's based on personal knowledge. And it's evidence
that would allow a reasonable person to reach a reasonable conclusion as to the matter at hand. Don't have to agree on that conclusion, but it just allows people to reach a reasonable conclusion. The city is going to be making its presentations regarding what they believe are violations. Uh I may have
some questions of them during their presentation. They usually present some demonstrative evidence. That's lawyers speak for pictures, photographs uh in support of the violation. Uh the respondents will have an opportunity to do the same. If the
respondents however do enter any evidence, remember it's going to stay with the clerk. It becomes a part of the official record. The other thing is that all the testimony that we're going to be presenting will be sworn testimony and be under oath. And what we do is that we
take the testimony or excuse me the the oath of the uh city officials who will be making their presentations first and we will apply that oath to all of the cases that will be before us. And we have four scheduled for today's hearing. And this in initial presentation also
will become a part of the record uh for any appeal that may be made. And as to the appeal, uh please keep in mind that appeals from this proceeding go to circuit court. They do not go to city commission. Uh and they are an appeal
has to be taken within 30 days from the date that the order is signed, which will probably be today. So tomorrow is the first day of those 30 calendar days. So keep that in mind. That being said, uh we take the cases in the order in which they appear on the agenda. Unless
we have respondents present, and we do, we're going to take them in the order which the respondents appear. I'd like first therefore to have Mr. Bartelli, who I understand will be taking all the cases today and you'll be sworn in. Mr. Bartelli, would you please rise for me? You saw me swear or affirm the
testimonies you give today should be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. I do. >> All right, Mr. Bartelli, let's call the first case. Case number 2025117 property located at 21104 Kirby Street. I have that the owner of record being
Brandon Mock. Is Brandon Mock present or anyone representing? Come on up, please. And you are Brandon Mock, the owner of the property. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. Raise your right hand for me. Do you saw me swear or affirm the testimony you get today should be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> Yes, sir.
>> All right. You can sit until it's time to speak. He Mr. Mr. Bartell is going to be talking for a few minutes. The evidence he's presenting will be shown on the monitor. If you have any trouble seeing it, please let me know. We'll make sure you get a paper copy so you have any and when he's done, you can have any ask any questions, present any
testimony you may have. Mr. Bartelli. >> Yes, sir. >> Um Bartelli, city plaque co office. Uh this is reference case 2025 117 21104 Kirby Street. Um
violations observed on 8125 violations of 30-32 10 alpha 10 conditions public nuisance roof and disrepair. Uh section 30-32 Bravo uh public nuisance abandoned two
abandoned vehicles. Uh section 30-32 alpha one uh trash and debris and section 30-17 uh busted windows. Um
f uh violations first observed on 81. Um notice of hearing was uh posted on the property and uh mailed. Um did get a green card on both sign or the green card was
signed for the notice of hearing sign and return. I have >> and you post to the property also. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. and your affidavit of service is included in the record. >> Yes, sir. >> Why did you post the property in addition to who's mailing it? >> Uh, at first initially we mailed a
notice. I mailed a um a friendly reminder uh mailed out a friendly reminder on look like August the 1st. I'm sorry. I apologize. Then a reminder was sent out on
August 1 and it was returned unsigned. All right, Mr. Mock, if you may, could you come on up and speak in the mic for me? Yes, sir. >> Is your is the official mailing address 21104 Kirby Street? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. Uh, did you get the notice that the city is trying to send you certified mail?
>> I did not get them. No, sir. I don't know. Did it come There was something that came through um I guess you had to go pick it up or something. I had no clue what that was and I guess obviously it was returned. >> All right. Well, just so you know, there
there are two ways under the law that the city is required to try to provide notice. One is by certified mail to the official address of record. It's maintained by the property appraiser and tax collector. So, they did that and if you got the notice that said come pick up the mail and didn't do it. That explains why the green there's a card
that gets signed if the postal service delivers it to the person. >> And in the absence of that, they post the property. Did you know about the hearing because of the posting on the property? They post a a paper with a notice >> about this hearing, about everything.
Um, yes, sir. Okay. Just recently had got that. >> All right. I just want to make sure we had the right address and and a way to communicate with you. All right. Have a seat. You're here. That's good. All right. Mr. Bartelli, tell me about this. You've you're alleging it looks like four separate violations.
>> One of 30-32A subsection 10 prohibited conditions and public nuisances. That is the roof is in disrepair. >> Yes, sir. And 30-32B, prohibited conditions and public nuisances, at least one abandoned vehicle. >> Yes, sir.
>> And 30-32A1, prohibited conditions and public nuisances, trash and debris. And 30-171A, broken windows. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. And you have the pertinent sections of the ordinances included in the record. >> Yes, sir. >> And you got some photographs for me? >> Yes, sir.
>> And did you take the photographs you're about to show us? >> Yes, sir, I did. And do the photographs accurately represent the condition of the property on the date in which you took them? >> Yes, sir. >> All right, please proceed. >> Uh the photo for one alpha >> um violation 30-32 alpha 10 roof in
disrepair. Um as you can see um the roof has previously been tarp um plus um the rotten and weakened wood and areas. So the whole roof is pretty much in disarray and needs to be replaced. And this is this is the section of
30-302A that deals with broken or missing building components, the roof, >> roofing material and so forth, >> roof and disrepair. >> Okay. And go back for a moment. What exactly needs to be done to bring that into compliance? The roof. >> Um
it's apparently has issues. Um it's tarp, so I assume it's leaking. Uh be repaired or replaced. >> All right. And replacement requires a permit. >> Yes, sir. repair required permit? >> No, sir. >> All right. Next.
>> Uh next, uh two Bravo, I mean two alpha, I'm sorry. Violation 30-32 Bravo. Uh abandoned vehicles. Uh actually there's two of them. Uh which the truck there is aband it's on the street, so it's not on the property. I understand. >> Okay.
>> Uh the vehicle, the the black vehicle has no no license plate on it. >> All right. And so the the trucks on the the right of way and the sir >> black vehicles on the property. >> Yes, it's on the rightway.
>> All right. So neither of them have >> a license current license. >> The truck does. This license plate is uh 9 2023. It's expired. >> Okay. >> And the black vehicle has no license plate. >> All right. And just for the record, just know that that is a definition that allows the vehicle to be classified as
inoperative, meaning either be moved or registered. All right. Next, >> um 3 alpha um 30-32 excessive trash and debris basically. Um >> and we're talking man-made items.
>> Yes, sir. Um just collectively in the yard there on the the right side of the property. Um several items >> and these need to be removed or at least stored out of sight. >> Yes, sir.
>> All right. Anything else there? >> Um, and for the last one, 30-171, uh, busted windows. Um, the window on the left, it's the top window. It's hard to see, but it is cracked. And the one on the bottom with the white in it, it's
the whatever that white is something covering the cracked window. So, there's two broken windows. >> All right. Now, let me ask you the the you on the uh left quadrant of windows, you got one actually broken window. >> Yes, sir. On the top >> on the on the right,
>> the bottom one where the white it's cracked, but they put that whatever. >> Okay. >> The ordinance, just so we're clear, the ordinance says it has to be replaced with glass. You can't board it. >> Correct. >> All right. >> And that's all I >> So, the secure there is basically
replace those two windows with glass. >> Yes, sir. So I'm I'm what I understand is we've got the roof in disrepair which needs to be repaired so that it's secure. Yes sir. >> Keep the elements out. It >> doesn't allow entry.
>> Aesthetics aren't quite as important as the security and the entry. Correct. >> Yes sir. >> And then the abandoned vehicles at least the one on the the property. >> Yes, sir. Well, let me just out of curiosity, what does the police do when there's an abandoned vehicle on the
rideway? Can you park there? Is that a new parking zone? >> Yeah, they're not. Well, what uh we have been we've been running across this issue a lot. Um more so a lot of semis parking. So, we are in working collaboratively with the uh Pla Police Department and they if they're on the
rightways, they've been going out and speaking to the prop or the vehicle owners and giving them the opportunities to remove them or if not tagging them if they're within X amount of days. I'm assuming they get towed away, >> right? >> So, we're working >> Well, there is a provision under Florida
law. Is there not to remove abandoned vehicles from rights of way? Sir, is there a provision under Florida law as a way to police can remove abandoned vehicles? >> Yes, we we are permitted. >> Yeah. You see the highway patrol doing that with the red tags on cars out
there. >> All right. The um the manmade items on the property just need to be removed and stored. >> Yes, sir. >> And the two broken windows replaced with glass. >> All right.
if if he wants to fix the roof. How long does it take to get a permit? >> Uh they would have to go to the county and apply for the permit. I don't know the process. How long it takes the county to issue a permit for them? I I don't know the answer to that. >> Just curiosity. You ask for 30 days for
compliance. It's does he need to apply for get a permit or fix the roof all within 30 days? >> Uh apply with it within 30 days to have the process working. >> All right. All right, Mr. Mock. >> Yes, sir. >> You have this the county I think you've
heard the summary of it. The countyy's basically >> I get it. >> All right. Where are you? Let me ask you about the roof and disrepair. What's your response to that? >> That has been kind of ongoing thing. I recently just got this property put into
my name fully. So I had and of course I haven't had money to I ain't got 10 $15,000 to spend on a roof of course you know um and that's pretty much you know about it it's been money thing and like I said I
just now got the house into my name to where maybe I could take a mortgage out or something to help try to do that's really the biggest thing is >> well just so you know the county's excuse me the city's looking for a solution but they got to work with the county apparently to get had it done.
>> Yes, sir. >> Um, what I'm hearing from Mr. Bartelli is you need to make some kind of good faith effort to get a permit application going and pursue it so you can stay in compliance with this. I don't think I don't know if you can get an application approved in 30 days. I don't know what
kind of response you're going to get, but you need to have some kind of effort. If that's your choice with that, >> I don't know what the whether this roof can be repaired or not. That's not my perview. >> It can be. I mean, like I said, it has been a while that it's been, I guess,
y'all say to end this, prepare, whatever. But, um, >> well, if you want, >> but it's going to be it's gonna take some work. >> Yeah. Well, I understand. I'm just suggesting way to stay out of the city's crosshairs on this in terms of what's going on. Was this a neighborhood complaint, Mr. Bertilli?
>> Yes. Um, it was a complaint by a city. >> All right. These things don't go away is what I'm getting at. People see this. It's pretty obvious that they're going on. And a lot of times you get complaints that that drive these. All right. The abandoned vehicles, you need to get some license tags on these things. >> Yes, sir.
>> Um or move it. >> Okay. >> And just the fact it doesn't have the license a valid current license tag is the problem. Do you have any difficulty with that? >> No, I don't have a driver's license at this moment. that Trump runs is just, you know, I mean, >> well, it's on the rideway, which is not
really on your property, but the city, you know, they they may have their own way of wanting to deal with that. So, just so you know, it's sitting out there. And then the uh trash and debris, that's just picking it up. >> That's it. >> Okay. Or getting it out of sight. >> Haul to the scrapard.
>> I don't think a bunch of bicycles, >> right? >> And you got to repair two broken windows. >> Yes, sir. >> Is that a problem? That shouldn't be a problem. >> Can you do that in 30 days? >> I think I can handle that. >> All right. Well, here's the thing. If you don't do it in 30 days, you're going
to get a $25 a day fine per violation per day. >> Yes, sir. >> It adds up. >> Seriously quickly. Um, so, you know, it it it's something needs to be addressed. Anything else you'd like to add to this? Any questions you have
about it? Would there be a way to maybe we can just like all the rotten wood that's on the face of the house, get that replaced and act maybe start working on the roof? Yeah. >> Would that keep me >> from being in violation with y'all and having to go through this?
>> But I I gave you my uh I think your lady friend I talked to the other day when I >> Oh, you were the gentleman she spoke with. Okay. um John McCard number keep in touch and I I think I also spoke to her reference the the city programs that they offer to help you know homeowners
with programs and stuff to help maybe repair your roof. I was explaining to her that there's those out there to look into those to maybe get some extra help on the side but as long as you have my number keep in contact with me and we're working with you we will work with you. >> Yes, sir. >> Stay in touch with Mr. Bartelli and you two keep talking. Don't let the
compliance date come and go. It's in 30 days, which is going to be on March 19th, uh, without getting that. You don't want the fines to start. >> No, sir. >> All right. Um, right now there's no fine that's going to acrue. Uh, unless you have anything else based on the evidence
testimony, I want to find that uh, it's appropriate to find that substantial incompetent evidence exists to find four violations related to the property. one of section 30-32A10 of the city code regarding prohibited conditions and public nuisances due to the fact that the roof is in disrepair
and the roof must be uh repaired or replaced or an good faith effort to acquire a permit with St. John's County must begin within the 30-day allotted period and must be continued. Don't let that permit process start and then lapse
because you might find yourself back here. 30-32B prohibited conditions and public nuisances. The abandoned vehicle need to be tagged or removed from the property. You really need to get it off the ride ofway. It's not on your property, but you might find yourself in the crosshairs of city police if you
leave it out there. Section 30-32A1 conditions and public nuisances, trash and debris. That just takes this man-made items that strewn about the yard, get them out of sight, get them off the property, something. Yes, sir. >> All right. And finally, 30-171A. broken windows. Need to replace those
two windows. And unfortunately, you the way the code reads, you can't put boards up there. You actually have to replace them with glass. >> All right. And it' be interesting to find a glazer in this day and time. I don't know what that's like, but um so we'll enter order finding those particular violations. I want to mention
also with regard to due process. It looks like the respondent is here. He has received notice by >> Yes, sir. Sir, >> I am sir. >> Well, I'm gonna have to ask that you leave if you can't silence it. >> Okay. All right. Thank you very much.
Um, as to the due process, he's here. Um, he got notice through posting. U, it looks like it is the correct address. They will be sending the the order from this by certified mail to your address. So, you might want to go down the post office and pick it up. All right. >> If it comes in.
>> U, so anyway, we'll enter those orders. The compliance must be completed no later than the end of business on March 19th, 2026. It's 30 days. In event of non-compliance beginning on March 20th, a fine of $25
per day per violation will commence until compliance. So, it's like a hundred bucks for all four of them a day. >> Don't go there. It adds up faster than you think. You don't want to be dealing with that because if if it doesn't compliance, they're going to send you another notice, come back here, they're going to ask to have a lean put on this
property. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. And you know how to get in touch with Mr. Bertilli? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. Listen, thank you for coming today. >> Thank you, sir. >> All right. >> Um, the gray car, we got to get that out of there pretty much. My pickup truck, I can just back it in to my yard. Correct.
And the gray car, >> the black car. >> Yes, sir. >> It has no plates on it. So, either put a plate on it or back it into your yard with in front in back or front of your truck. Okay. And then also get in touch with the city about our building improvement grant. Um, >> okay. Can help you with the roof and
stuff. >> Well, thank you'all. >> Thank you. >> Windows are good. >> The freezer. >> It's my caffeine jolt. Next case is case number 2025180.
the heirs of Francis L. Williams um and it specifically mentioned Daniel Woods Jr. property located at 1016 um Olive Street in Palatka. Do we have anyone here who is Daniel Woods Jr. or an air of Francis L.
Williams? >> Yes. >> All right, they got two people action. >> Come on up. And the reason I want you to speak in the microphone is it's being this hearing is being recorded. >> Yes, sir. >> That's the official record. >> I don't even hear it before.
>> Okay. You related, sir, also? >> Yeah, that's my nephew. >> That's your nephew. And your name is what, sir? >> Daniel Woods Jr. >> What is it? >> Daniel Woods Jr. >> You are Daniel Woods Jr. You're the one who's named on this. All right. So, >> and you're an heir of Francis.
>> No, I'm not. I'm an heir of Daniel and myself. >> Okay. I don't know reason I'm bringing it up. We're just trying to make sure we got the right people. I >> understand. >> And the property appraiser and the tax collector list this property as the
heirs of Francis L. Williams at all. And so I'm just letting you know how it's titled. >> I'm on favor. >> All right. Sir, could you raise your right hand for me? You saw me swear or affirm the testimony you give today should be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
>> Yes, sir. All right. Now, you've been here during the previous uh hearing. This is Mr. Bartelli's case, and he's going to talk to me first about how this came in front of me and then uh what the what the alleged violations are >> and some evidence in support of it. You'll have a chance to ask him any
questions after he's done and presented the evidence and testimony you may have. And you, sir, if you I'll leave it up to you as to who you want to call. >> Actually, I want >> All right, I got it. >> I want a criminal case right now. I really don't hold you around. >> Well, I tell you what, let's let Mr.
Bartelli do his and we'll get this thing in order. All right, Mr. Bartelli, you can proceed. >> Uh, Harold Martelli, City Pl Compliance, uh, case 2025 180. Uh, address 1016 Olive Street. Uh,
violations 30-168 minimum standards and maintenance. Uh, no running water in in on the property. Um this case is first observed on 101625. Uh property was posted uh by the from this
the county posted it uh uninhabitable due to there no water running. They posted the property for us on the 17th I of 1017. The property has been posted. >> Well let me ask you something. It talks
about the heirs of Francis L. Williams and there's a Frank Bellamy. >> I thought I turned it down. >> Well, you you can't you can't leave it on. >> I'll say this, it certainly gets your attention. >> Can you leave it with the administrator?
>> Yes, sir. >> Just ask her to hold it for you. I need to make sure everybody else has got theirs off, including me. All right, the respondent has returned. >> Okay, Mr. Bartelli. >> Sir, >> go ahead. Um,
All right. Uh property was posted. Uh notice of uh violations was mailed. Uh green cards were signed and returned. Um the I did I was notified by Mr. Bellamy who was heirs of and Mr. um Woods who
stayed in the property. So I sent letters to both addresses. >> All right. That's explains the Bellamy situation. >> Yes, sir. Heirs of and they >> Well, that was an abundance of caution to make sure you covered due process which is good. They were notified. And all that means is one of the things I'm always concerned about is making sure people have notice of these hearings and
notice what they're about. You know when to be here and you get a chance to come and participate. All right, you're here. Thank you for coming. All right, Mr. Portelli, it looks to me like you've alleged one violation of one code provision, specifically section 30-168,
minimum standards for maintenance and sites an unsanitary or unsafe condition. >> Correct. >> Yes, sir. >> And that condition is you mentioned no running water. >> Yes, sir. >> How do you know?
>> As uh verified by the the plas, Mr. Was is there running water in this house? >> No sir. Uh sir was I had got a a grant cuz this village. So the reason why there's no water there, somebody pulled
a fight from the outside and bust it in the inside. >> Okay. >> They snatched the fact from the outside, sir. >> But there's no running water going into the inside. >> Is anybody living in this house? >> I'm Well, I like for changing clothes
and stuff, sir. You know, I'm working on the the bathroom now. I got the walls to trying to locate the problem myself. I don't have the finances myself. I say on disr now for violence.
>> Help me help me understand precisely why is there no running water? I mean, is there >> snatched out? I got $3,000 water bill in 20 days. >> Okay. Well, this has been going on for how long? >> I put Can I say something else? I put the shut off valve. They cost me $400.
The city was okay with that, but I after they did that, I had money to put a shut off valve on. >> Well, how long has it been in your knowledge that the water's been turned off in this house? >> A while now. >> A while? More than a month? >> Huh?
>> More than a month? More than a year? >> No. >> Six months? >> I can't s. >> Okay. Mr. Bartelli, do you have any idea how long this when did you first start investigating this? >> Um, I was complain on was >> 18th of October 25.
>> All right. Does the county records or city records show when the water was turned off? >> It show it should show when the last time the bill was paid on. >> Okay. You need to speak up here. Come on. >> Yes, it does. But I >> I'm sorry. >> I did contact the county. I I plaque gas
authority reference water and I did not write it down. Um, I wanted to say it was November. I don't know the correct exact date. No, sir. >> It's off now. >> Correct. And it's been off for at least a month. Is that correct? >> In the process of getting the street
fixed, though. I'm waiting on wheel, you know, fun. >> Can you get it turned on in 30 days? >> No, I can't, sir. I don't have the money. I got to repair the structure of the fights and all. I'm tearing out the shower wall now. I'm in process of that. I should have took a picture of it, but yes, I am.
>> Well, help me out. Is it a is it a materials? Is it contractors and workers? Or is it money? What is the issue that keeps you from doing it? >> Money. >> Okay. >> And know that's what I'm trying to do,
you know. But if I can get the help, Mr. Todd Lewis that I work for, he say you going to get Mr. Wales to come take a look at it for me. But I got to come up with the money. I want this village, you know.
Well, I don't have any jurisdiction or any authority to make money appear for you. >> Yes, sir. >> I don't have any authority really to change the law on this. The only thing I can get to do today is to determine whether there's a violation of this code. >> I I >> And how long it's going to take you to
fix it because it could start cost it could start costing money if you don't fix it. >> 90 days. Well, that's not, you know, I'm asking >> the city's asked for 30 and that's usually a reasonable time.
>> Well, I don't have it. >> I It's only me. >> It's up to y'all, but >> it's only me, sir. >> Well, let me ask you this. >> I tried to get in touch with you. >> Here's the problem. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. One of the things that I look for, >> Yes, sir. >> is, is this property owner making a good
faith effort to solve this problem? >> And I had the windows out. I had to purchase all them by myself when somebody else came when David Green dropped me up here before y'all. You know, all this in here was out the house with nobody trying to do nothing to destroy just keep me from being the
natural he of marriage to the far. >> Well, one of the things about property owned like this is you're not in complete control of the property ownership. >> Right. Right. I understand that. And but that again, >> you know, it's it's an argu it's an argument concerning what's a reasonable
amount of time to solve the problem. On the other hand, the city's got a right to seek a solution to the problem because this is a health issue. >> Right. I understand. But I act if you can 90 days that take three on my chest to get it covered.
>> Well, I only get >> convince me. Convince me this is going to get solved even in 90 days. >> It will. I saw the last problem with the windows out and stuff. I had to replace four windows. Cost me $500 something dollar from any glad, you know, way
other people bust them out. But I catch the flag from it because I'm on the property, you know. >> Well, your larger problem might be convincing Mr. Bartelli. >> You know, I understand >> that this is actually going to get done. >> It will get done. But look, I tried to
make a minister about that. He would not make phone made appointments over there. I asked him to call me. He never did. But every time I turn around, you him and him in front of the house. >> Yeah. Can I >> Yeah, if you need to testify. Come on up. You talk.
>> Go ahead, sir. >> I need to speak with >> And what's your name? >> I got >> All right. Raise your hand for me. >> And what's your name for the record? >> Believe me, sir. >> Thank you. You're the other one you were addressing to. You saw me swear affirm the testimony and you should get there
should be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Yes, sir. >> All right. Can you help us out on getting this done? >> First of all, I just came into this property because my mother, that's which is her brother. You know what I'm saying? I don't care nothing about him staying up. You know what I'm saying? He can stay there all he want to. I got a house that my mother left me around the
corner. I own two houses through my mother. You know what I'm saying? I don't care. That's my uncle. He can stay there all he want to. But if you ain't going to do what you supposed to do in there and keep this thing up the cold and keep keep people from out here like this right here, I don't care. get a check every month. You know what I'm saying? It shouldn't be the water been
off way over 3 months. I got pictures on the phone the phone to show you what's going on inside the house if you want to get tech. This ain't no lie. You're a drug addict. You ain't I mean, come on, man. I don't want to expose you, but you know what's going on. >> You know what's going on. We ain't down
here for that. But at the same time, I don't want to get fined for I don't want to get fined for I don't live around them. You know what I'm saying? That's just my grandmother's house through my mother. I'm taking care of my mother's house which at 508 North 10th Street. I own that property also through my mother. You see what I'm saying?
>> We don't we don't we don't we don't we don't we don't we don't care no about him standing up. But you ain't you ain't keeping the water on. You can't even take care of the utilities. But you get a whole check every month. >> You done had this water off over three months. >> It cost almost three three $4,000 just to get the water turned back on. Look at
the last time the water bill been paid. >> All right. So, if you want to see what's going on inside the house to let you know why the bill ain't getting paid, I can show you right here on the phone. >> I can show you on the phone if you want to see proof >> if you really want to see what's going on. >> All right. Well, I'm inclined and
listening to all this. I'm inclined to to motivate people, whomever it may be, to get this done in 30 days. >> See, this this what's going on inside the house. >> You see you see what that did right there? A crack pipe. That's what's going on inside my inside my grandmother's
house. All right. We can't hear both of you guys. Mr. Bellam is M Mr. Bellamy's got the mic. Thank you. Go ahead. >> That's that's that's that's that that's what's going on. That's why you can't pay the bill. But you want to get down here and want these people to feel sorry for you. I didn't gave you a chance out of chance to get it right.
>> Everybody that's entitled to the house and be responsible. You standing in there keeping up with the bills and then we got to come down here and get fined on your on your on your on your on your watch. That ain't right. >> Right. >> If you in there, you supposed to take care of your bills and take care of your business and handle your business. All right. Listen, thank you for sir very
much. >> That's all I want to see. >> I got it. Thank you very very much. Mr. Woods, you're going to get about a minute and I'm going to make a decision. Sir, >> first of all, first tell you there's a violation. The only thing I'm looking at now, how if if we're going to go past 30 days, >> I give me 45.
>> You need to get it done in 30. >> Okay. But still, sir, I paid the taxes ever since I've been out of >> I appreciate that. >> All right. Now, I've been doing this by myself. Nobody do nothing to help me to bring confusion towards me. >> Listen, here's the deal.
>> Here's the deal. This property's got an ownership issue. >> You got the mayor. Hang on. Listen to me. I'm talking now. You don't get to talk when I talk. >> All right. This property's got some ownership issues. It's up to y'all to decide whether you want to resolve them or not. It'd be really nice to have a designated owner who's actually got
clear title to it. But you know what? That's not something we can do here. Yes, sir. >> You're going to have to have some lawyers involved in this to sort this out. It can be done. >> All right. >> Yes, sir. >> Having said that, >> the city still got a right to bring a claim to solve this health problem.
>> 30 days. >> 30 days. >> I got it. >> All right. So what we're going to do, we're going to make a or finding that um there's substantial incompetent evidence to conclude that the violation of section 30-168 of the city code regarding unsanitary
and unsafe conditions, specifically no running water in the property, which has been for at least 3 months or longer, and continues today with the property being occupied and that it needs to be addressed within the next 30 days. So, we're going to enter an order finding
that violation and requiring that the owner bring the property into compliance by providing for water service uh no later than the end of business on March 19th, 2026. In the event of non-compliance, a daily fine of $25 a day shall commence on March 20th, 2026.
>> Don't kid yourself. $25 a day adds up in a hurry. >> I want you to be able to >> Here's the thing, guys. This needs to be fixed. >> Yes, sir. >> Whomever needs to stay in touch with Mr. Bartelli, when you get the water running, >> you need to let him know cuz you don't want the $25 a day to start.
>> I'll get on as soon as I leave. >> Look, I I this is always a this is a difficult situation. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. I understand it costs money sometimes to own a property. >> Yes, sir. >> But here's the deal. If you're going to be the owner of the property, >> I'm not
>> Well, you're here and you're the one dealing there. Then somebody needs to take control of the situation and get this solved. >> I got it. >> All right. Well, look, I would really hope we don't see you back here. >> Okay. Thank you for coming, Mr.
>> Bell. One more thing before you let not to be out. Still standing at night and all kind of >> All right. >> You know what I'm saying? I'm telling you what's going on. I ain't going to sit here and lie to you. I got everything right. >> It needs to be addressed.
I had more than enough time to get this situation. >> All right, let's let's adjourn this hearing. Let's take a quick recess. Yeah. the hearing at 208. We're going to continue with the next case number 2025132.
Owner of record Herbert S. Delaney and Tracy Redford Leadford, excuse me, attendance in common or either Herbert Delaney or Tracy Leadford or anyone representing either of them present today. All right. Seeing and hearing no one. Mr. Bartelli.
>> Yes, sir. Herald Bartelli, City of PLA code compliance. Uh, this is reference case 2025132, the house located at 322 Madison Street in Plaque, Florida. Um, this is in the South Historic District home. Uh, violations uh first noted on 814 to 25.
Um, I've had no contact. No, I've sent letters. They've all been returned. Um, I have no phone number, no contact. Haven't not been able to contact anybody with since I've had the case. Uh, there has been somebody at the property. As a matter of fact, this month I drove by
and there were workers there. So, I did stop by and speak with them. And apparently the owners don't live here, but they were in town. So, I gave my number and card and everything and asked them to stop by and I've yet to see anybody or have any contact from anybody. So, there's four violations. Um
uh section 94 192 192 um trailer a utility trailer for storage being parked in the front yard >> and that section deals with um major recreational equipment. >> Yes, sir. Parking uh parking. >> It's mentioned in the ordinance that you provided as a part of the record. Um
except we're permitted in an R4 district. >> Is this an R4 district? >> No, it's a historic district. >> Okay. So historic in a different class than residential. >> Yes sir. >> Entertaining. All right. >> And plus it's also in the front yard. >> Okay. >> Is a no. No.
>> So basically the recreational equipment in historic is not allowed in the in the yard. >> Not in the front yard. >> In the front yard. And that's where this is located according to. All right. And what other violations are you alleging?
>> Uh section 3162 building fronts and budding sides property uh deteriorating paint. Um several issues on the paint uh deteriorating on sides and the back and the front of the >> Okay. >> the the house more than 10%. >> And what what else do you have? >> Uh section 3162 uh building fronts and
building streets and property mold and mildew. Uh the front of the house, the steps, there's two sets of steps going up into the front and the walkway that are covered with mold. And there's a step on the side of the house that are also covered in mold. >> Is this 169 or 162? >> 169, I'm sorry.
>> Yeah. Okay. And then the fourth one, >> uh, 30-215, um, unregistered property. >> All right. Uh, let me ask about due process, if I may. We don't have anyone here who is a respondent. You did send
official notice of the hearing and violations to the official owners and address of record is maintained by the property appraiser and tax collector. >> Uh, yes, sir. Actually, I spent it to two. Um, somehow I acquired a second address on the the individuals. Uh, I did send it to the 322 Madison Street
and then the second address it had on them was 13432 Providence, Rhode Island, uh, Winningington, North Carolina. >> Okay. >> Um, I believe I acquired it from an old uh, old case that they had where they were getting make contact. I think Miss
Dryer actually had a case on them and she was so nice to >> Did you get a response at all from either did the envelopes come back? >> Uh, I do have one that did come back um, vacant. Which one? The North Carolina or the uh >> the Madison Street?
>> The the postal service said it was vacant. Yes, sir. >> All right. And you did post the property? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. And your affidavit of service is included in the record? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. Um you've got some photographs to show me concerning the violations? >> Yes, sir. >> And did you take these photographs? >> Yes, sir. >> And do the photographs accurately
represent the condition of the property on date in which you took them? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. Please proceed. uh one alpha would be uh 90-192 the trailer parked in the front yard utility. Uh it's the front right side of the house.
It's backed in there. Um >> so is it just like a um >> it's like an enclosed >> pull just a pull bumper hitch. >> Yes, sir. >> Uh RV >> or just a trailer? >> Just a trailer. >> But you can live in it. You >> probably use them for storage.
>> Okay. um to Bravo. >> I'm just curious, the way the ordinance reads, can't be used for living, sleeping, or housekeeping purposes when parked or stored. >> Stored. Yeah. Used for storage. That's all we're for.
parked or stored on residential zone lots. >> Okay. >> Other in R4 um two alpha is violation 30-169 alpha deteriorating paint as you can see. Uh that would be
the left side the rear the top picture left rear side um the top half of the house there and the bottom half and then on the bottom picture would be the rear of the house. um the back wall and the other side.
>> So, the solution is just to paint it a consistent color. >> Yes, sir. It's Well, >> can you do that without painting the whole side of the house, >> sir? >> Can anyone do that without painting the whole side of the house? >> And what would you tell the property owner? >> I would um I would recommend scraping
all the old paint off and then >> basically the whole side of the house. >> Yes, sir. Evenly coat paint across the whole thing. I'm not sure they can match it, but it's all flaking off pretty much. So, I would I would recommend scraping it before you paint it over top. If it's not, you're going to have the same problem. The paint's going to
flake off. >> Okay. U three alpha. Uh the front, the top picture is the front of the house where steps going up into the front. Uh there's mold and mildew. Um and then on the bottom
picture is the back side of the house. There's steps there also mold mildew from the rain droplets and uh solution pressure wash. >> Okay. Uh for alpha uh this just a picture of the house.
It's not it's not reg has not been registered with orange data. >> Yeah. And what makes it his ordinance calls for a 10% standard at least 10%. How do you know it's 10%. As far as the mold mill,
>> uh the steps basically the >> it's about a four by the the porch. You can't see the porch. She's on the porch also. Uh the the step ratio is 4 foot wide by approximately three foot. Um and
there's three two steps or three steps there and two on the front. >> All right. So you did you did the math? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. And actually the the steps not only the steps but it continues out through the front walkway which carries it's about a
50 foot walkway. >> All right. And then there's one more ordinance violation >> uh the registration the house >> and this is under 231 215 basically a blighted property has to be registered. >> Yes sir.
>> Okay. Interesting ordinance. All right. Um, tell me about that storage again on this trailer. >> The trailer on the side. Um, no, it says no major recreational equipment shall be used for living,
sleeping or purposes of housekeeping housekeeping purpose or parked or stored in a residential area. Um, residential zone lot. Um, it's not a residential slot. It's for one. It's a historic lot. Um they can be parked in historic
districts. They have to be in the backyard, I do believe, and it has to be in an enclosed um carport where you cannot see it or something screened in. >> But that's a separate ordinance in the residential section >> in the in the historic >> historic district. Yes, sir.
>> All right. What ordinance is that? >> Uh do not know that. But it's in it's in the architectural historic architectural. All right. >> Anything else? No sir. >> Last call for Herbert S. Delaney and
Tracy Leadford or anyone representing either of them. Seeing and hearing no one and finding that due process has been codified by sending certified letters regarding the uh notice of hearing and notice of the violation to the owners of record at the official
address of record and finding no response to those efforts. The city did take upon itself to attempt to locate and did locate an alternate address. Um, but again sending notice by certified
letter to that address but getting a response from neither except from the post office regarding the subject property address which indicated that it was vacant. The um property was posted in accordance with state statute and the affidavit of service of that posting is included in
the record. and you've never had any contact with no one. All right. Based on the evidence and testimony presented, we do find substantial and confident evidence to find violations of section 94-192 of the city code regarding parking storage or use of major recreational
equipment. Specifically, a major recreational equipment in the front yard uh being used for storage. A section-30- 169. Well, excuse me. Under historic code, it not allowed period. Is that correct?
>> Not in the front yard. >> Not in the front yard. All right. And 30-169A, building fronts and sides of budding streets or public areas during deteriorating paint. Solution to that's going to be to um repaint or at least uh correct the paint on that building to
make sure that paints is consistent color throughout the entire elevation as seen from Madison Street. 30-169D. Building fronts and sides of budding public streets, mold and mildew need a pressure washing to resolve that. And
30-215 foreclosed blight or unsecured structure. This requires registration of properties considered blighted and simply need to get the registration. We'll find we'll enter an order finding the violations and requiring that the property owner bring the property into compliance
u no later than 30 days from the date of the hearing. That is by the end of business on March 19th, 2026. In the event of non-compliance, a fine of $100 per day uh per violation shall acrew beginning on March 20th, 2026.
>> 75 three. >> I'm sorry. You're right. Never mind. >> Four. >> Yeah, you're right. I was looking at the wrong >> I thought you did the math. >> I was looking at the next one. >> All right. Take a take a brief recess at 2:20. Going back on at 225
and this is again regard to case number 2025132. We're going to correct the uh oral order regarding the violation of section 94192. Uh it does not appear after the city
attorney's review of the uh pertinent ordinances for the city that there is an ordinance in the historic code which would allow or disallow a recreational equipment in historic property that would otherwise um
negate the import of 94192. Therefore, we'll find the order uh shall be limited to findings of violations of section 30-169A, 30-169D, and 30-215.
All right. Next, case number 2025-135. Property located at 615 North 20th Street in Palatka. Uh owners are the heirs of Annie M. Grant uh with uh care of Alfred Grant Jr. is Alfred Grant Jr.
or any other heir of Annie Mrant or anyone representing either any of them present today. Seeing and hearing no one Mr. Bartelli. >> Yes sir. Uh Har Bartelli City Pla code compliance reference case 2025135
for the property located at 615 North 20th Street in Palaka Florida. Um originally um violation or a friendly reminder was sent on August 13th of 25 referencing um statute 3169 alpha
building fronts and burning streets and sides rotten wood along the ridge roof ridge and windows boarded up and unregistered property. Um friendly reminder was sent um and notice
violation was returned uh to the address of that records um return vacant property. >> Okay. And did you post the property? >> Yes, sir. >> And when was that posting? >> Post the property was on 24.
>> And you have your affidavit of posting included in the record? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. You're alleging Have you had any contact with anyone who's an owner of this property or or an heir? >> No, sir. Actually, I did have a case on the house next door who um knew the
owner. Apparently, they live in Pla somewhere. Um they said they spoke to them, told them to contact us. >> Okay. >> Nothing. >> All right. So, you have three alleged violations. One is 30-169A, 30-171, and 30-215. 69A dealing with
fronts and sides of buildings visible from uh abuing or public areas abudding streets or public areas rotten and wood along the roof. 30-171 windows are boarded up rather than with glass. Is that correct? >> Yes, sir. >> And then 30-215
failed to register a blighted property. Is that correct? All right. Do you have some photographs for us? >> Yes, sir. >> And did you take these photographs? >> Yes, sir. >> And do the photographs accurately represent the condition of the property and date in which you took them? >> Yes, sir. >> Please proceed. Uh one alpha uh is going to be violation 30-169 alpha rotten and
weakened wood. Uh the top picture would be the front elevation of the house. Uh the wood is slowly deteriorating and rotten away. Uh the bottom picture would be the left rear side of the house. Um actually that top picture that left
corner is actually a hole. The wood's missing. Okay. And on the the bottom the roof edge there the >> So is this the gable of the roof or the actual surface of the >> the gable piece of roof. >> So it's a vertical rise off of the roof. Yes, sir. >> Plane of the roof. >> And that's that's where the holes are.
>> Yes, sir. >> And that's what needs to be repaired is the gable. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. And they just need to fix those holes. >> Yes, sir. >> Right. That require permit. >> Would that require a permit? >> No, sir. >> Okay. Next. Um two alpha uh would be
violation 30-171. The windows boarded up more than 60 days. Um according to the statute um they've been boarded up since I posted a prop friendly reminder was sent in August.
All right. So this is basically an ordinance which requires that the boarded up windows be replaced with glass. >> Yes, sir. Okay. >> And three alpha uh violation 30-215 failure to register property. Just
basically a picture of the house. Um also be known that I did contact the plaque of gas authority. There is no water running to the facility. Um it doesn't appear anybody's living in there or inside of the building. >> Is that vehicle there? >> Yes, sir. But I didn't hit until I
noticed I posted a >> Has it always been there? >> Yes, sir. And it's uh abandoned also. I was just curious if that a sign that somebody's using it for some purpose. >> No, it's it's I didn't see that until I actually posted the property and I went up on the property and was able to see it,
>> but after the fact I sent them all the the >> But you've never seen anyone on the property? >> No, sir. >> And the neighbors didn't have never seen anyone on the property. Apparently, whoever it's heirs of the father passed and I guess these people they live in Pla somewhere and he spoke with them and
told him about it and that's I heard nothing from him. Okay. Anything else? >> No, sir. >> Last call for anyone who is an heir of Annie M. Grant. Uh a last call for
Alfred Grant Jr. And last call for anyone representing any of them. Seeing and hearing no one and find the due process has been satisfied by sending a certified letter containing the notice of the hearing and the violations to the official owner and
address of record is maintained by the property appraiser and tax collector and finding that that delivery attempted delivery was unsuccessful and finding that the property was posted in accordance with statute 162 of the Florida statutes um with the affidavit
of service included in the record and finding that the substantial and competent evidence exist to find a violation of section 30-169 of the city code regarding building fronts and sides of budding streets or public areas and specifically some rotten wood located on
the gable of the house as viewed from the um 20th street. Is this on a corner? >> No sir. There is actually a a public walk u bike trail I guess you can call it. >> Okay. That's how you got the side view.
>> But you can see if it's a public access. All right. But you can see it from there. And the gable is apparent and it needs to be repaired. >> Yes, sir. >> And 30-171 windows. The windows on the house, many of which are boarded. Those windows need each to be replaced with glass.
>> Yes, sir. >> According to that provision of the code and finally violation of 30 215, failure to register a blighted structure. What the solution to that would be the registration process. How much does it cost to register that? I >> I do not know the answer to that. It's done through a third party orange data
system. >> All right. >> Um, so I don't know the answer to that one. >> All right. Well, in an order finding the violations and requiring that the owner bring the property into compliance on all each of the three violations within 30 days, that is as of the end of
business on March 19th, 2026. In the event of non-compliance, a fine of $25 per day per violation shall commence on March 20th, 2026. There being no further business before the special magistrate, we shall
conclude today's hearing at 2:33.