It's 1:30. >> Ready. >> Ready. It being 1:30 on June 16, 2026, we shall commence proceedings before the special magistrate for code enforcement for the city of Palatka. By way of introduction,
my name is Ron Brown. I'm an attorney licensed in the state of Florida and pursuant to city code and state statute, I've been appointed by the city commission of the city of Paka to pro preside over today's proceedings. This is not a formal court of law. We're not bound by the formal rules of evidence or
the formal rules of civil procedures you may find in a regular courtroom. This is the quai judicial proceeding where we'll try to render decisions based on what is called substantial incompetent evidence to see whether there is a violation of a city code uh based on that evidence.
Substantial incompetent evidence is evidence that would allow a reasonable person to reach a reasonable conclusion on the matter at hand. People don't have to agree on that outcome. They simply the evidence just simply has to be one that could lead to that conclusion. One of the other requirements of law is that
substantial incompetent evidence must be sworn. And I'm going to ask that all those persons from the city who will be testifying today to please stand and take an oath and let the record show that Miss Low, Miss Dryer, Mr. Bartelli have all stood.
Do you solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you give today should be the the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Let the record show that all have answered in the affirmative. Uh this preliminary uh conversation um colloqui, I forget to colloquiate, we'll
call it that. Uh shall be included in the record for each of the hearings uh scheduled for today uh agenda. And it looks like we have five today. I will make note that uh in the event someone wishes to appeal a decision that is rendered today and this is primarily for
decisions that are based on the first violations that appeal must be filed no later than 30 days from the date the order for finding the violation is signed. We anticipate that will be
today. Tomorrow will be the 31st day first day rather and the teal must be filed no later than the end of business on the 30th day. Um it is also important to recognize that any appellant who uh is not the city must uh find a way to
prepare a record on appeal including a transcript of the proceedings. The only record that is being made today is a tape recording or an electronic recording u which is available as a public record obviously and as a part of the record of the proceeding but the appellent must make uh an effort to get
that transcribed and bring it to court. That being said I don't think there are any other preliminary matters. Uh we will proceed with the cases as they appear on the agenda. I do not see anyone today uh in present as a respondent. So we'll just take them as they're listed. First case will be case
number 25203 property located at 321 Dodge Street in Palatka. Uh Mr. Bartelli and let me see if we have an This is owner is Kathleen Story. Is that right Mr. Bartell? >> Yes sir.
>> Is Kathleen Story present or anyone representing Kathleen Story? >> All right. Seeing and hearing to one. Uh Mr. Bartelli please proceed. >> All right. Harold Bartelli, city plat code compliance office. This is a reference case 2005
203 house located at 321 Dawn Street. Um violation is 30 section 30-63 dereliction of public nuisance an unregistered vehicle. Uh um violation was first observed on 111825.
Uh notice of hearing was sent to on 6326. uh site was posted and complex posted. Uh no green cards have been signed or returned. Um all mail has so correspondence has been returned to
myself. >> All right. If I may do some due process due diligence, the certified letter containing the notice of violation and the notice of the hearing was sent to Kathleen Story, 321 Dodge Street, Paka, Florida 32177. Is that correct? >> Yes, sir. And that's the official
address maintained by the property appraiser and tax collector. >> Yes, sir. >> And you got the green card back unsigned? >> Uh, no green cards back. I've received the letters have come back. >> Okay. And the letters indicated
>> return to sender unclaimable unable to forward. >> All right. All right. And having done that, did you then post the property in accordance with state statute? >> Yes, sir. >> And you have your affidavit of service included in the record? >> Yes, sir. >> And just for the record, are all the
documents included in the record, true and correct copies of the official records of uh city political? >> Yes, sir. >> Had any contact with Kathleen's story at all regarding this issue? >> No, sir. >> In your visit to the property, you ever seen anyone on the property? Uh, I've
spoke made contact with a um neighbor in the area and that's been as far as I've been going. Um, instructed he was going to pass the information on to relatives to give him my number to call, but I' had not heard anything since. >> Okay.
>> All right. You've alleged a violation of section 30-63 of the city code regarding unlicensed and operable vehicles stored on private property. Um the statute also the code also provides
that vehicles and outdoor storage areas are maintained in such a manner that they do not constitute health hazard and are screened from ordinary public view. >> So basically this is one where they have to be screened or out of view. >> Yes sir. >> Right.
Just for my information what makes a vehicle unlicensed or inoperable? Uh, an operative vehicle be can go such as vat tires. Um, maybe it's up on um jacks, jack stands. Um,
also an um no license plate or an expired license plate tag. >> Okay. >> Which is this case in this one. >> All right. And do you have some photographs to show us? >> Yes, sir. I do. >> And did you take these photographs? >> Yes, sir. I did. >> And do the photographs accurately represent the condition of the property and date in which you took them?
>> Yes, sir. >> All right. Please proceed. Are you going to have visuals? >> Nope. >> This is not working. It's on the YouTube. >> We'll struggle through. >> Ask a question. >> Sure.
>> This is unregistered, but they could have the license and the license u 105. >> It's expired license. >> So, I'll be send it to you in October >> of last year. This is 26
>> since >> that's the end date, correct? >> So, the question had to go with Well, we didn't get to the photograph. We'll take a look at it, but I see what he's saying. All right. Please proceed. >> All right. Um, >> by the way, >> I did ask you about the photographs.
>> Yes, sir. I one of them. >> Uh, one Bravo is a picture of the vehicle with the tag. Uh, you see the registration on it says 10:25. That's when it expired. There's no lee tag
benefit assigned to it or nothing. And that's it. Um, and to Bravo, you can see is a picture of where the where it sets in their driveway. So, it is in the opening visible by the streets and on the sidewalks.
>> Just looking at the accumulation of debris on the car, looks like it may have been there a while. That's speculation, but still, >> right? >> How long have you, In your observation, how long has the car been there? >> It's been there since I've started this case in November. >> Okay.
Have you seen And you never seen anyone on the property at all? >> Not a property owner, just a neighbor in the neighborhood who takes care of I guess oversees the house. I spoke with >> basically we have an unlicensed vehicle rendering inoperable on private property
in public view. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. Last call for Kathleen Story or anyone representing Kathleen Story. Seeing and hearing no one, we're going to find that it's appropriate to enter an order finding a violation of section
30-63 subsection 3 of the city code regarding unlicensed as an operable vehicle stored on private property. Uh due process have been satisfied by the sending of a certified letter in accordance with state statutes containing this um information regarding the date of
hearing and the and the nature of the violation. and uh by sending that certified letter and the absence of receiving evidence of receipt of that letter by posting the property in accordance with state statute with an affidavit of service included in the record. Uh substantial incompetent
evidence in the form of photographs and testimony exists to show the presence of one inoperable vehicle on the property rendered inoperable by the um failure of a current registration on the vehicle. That being the case, we'll enter an
order filing the violation uh requiring that the property owner bring the property into compliance by either having the vehicle rendered operable by obtaining a current license and registration uh or having the vehicle removed from the property. Uh compliance must be completed within 30 days. Um
that is by the end of business on July 16th, 2026. in the event of non-compliance, a fine of $25 per day um to all acrew beginning on July 17th, 2026. Just as an aside, there was some effort
in the legislature to try to change the license plate to do away with the stickers, which would mean you might have to go sort through DMV files at some level, would you?
how the new system is going to to look, but we will no longer have to do the included yellow sticker. >> What's the question? >> It used to be you got a separate new tag every year. You had to go down and get another piece of metal
>> and you know that now of course we got 120 specialty plates. So go with God. But so couldn't have been worse than that one, right? But still. All right. There was something I was going to bring up regarding that. Let me think. Okay. All right. That being said, let's
go to the second case number 25 uh 2025147. Property located at 500 North 9th Street in Palatka. Owners of record appear to be Jonah Johnson and Lois Johnson.
Jonah Johnson or Lois Johnson or anyone representing either of them present today. Seeing hearing no one this miss dryer is your case. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. Please proceed. >> My name is Melissa Dryer. I have uh case
2025 147 located at 500 North 9th Street. Um violations of 30 169 building fronts inside abuing the streets or public areas. We have five of those violations and one 3032
public conditions and public nuisances. One being flattened and weakened wood and loosen loose hanging wires, deteriorating structure, deteriorating paint, mold and mild and roofing. It was
first observed on 8252. Notice the hearing was sent on 6 through 26. There was a green card sent and signed and returned back to me. Complex posting was done on 626 and site posting
was done on 61126. >> All right. Concerning due process, you indicated that there was a green card or excuse me, the certified letter was sent to the official owner and address of record is maintained by the property appraiser and tax collector. Is that correct? >> Yes, sir. And you did get the green card back signed by Lois. Is that correct?
>> Yes, sir. >> Okay. And have you had any conversation with Lois Johnson or Jonah Johnson? >> I did with Lois. >> And what was the result of that conversation? >> Um, she is in the process of selling the the property and I had brief um
conversation with the buyer. They are wanting to fix it up. So, when was that conversation >> with the buyer? Tuesday. I think Monday was the day I had with the buyer.
>> That it was also the same day I had with um Lois. So, it's been recent with Lois as well. >> All right. How much of time are you asking for compliance? I gave them one 120 days just to set it out so she's got time to close on it and they can start
working and get start started on it because there being that there is a lot to do and some of it is ex expensive to start with. >> This is not my purview to say um but
frequently buyers require sellers to fix the place before the transaction closes. Real estate agents sometimes are very good at helping that process. >> Correct. But the um buyer was willing to buy as is. >> Okay.
So that raises the question seller still going to have to fix it. Okay. I'll leave that to them to sort that one out. All we're here today is determine where there's a violation. Yes. >> So you have good due process and you've been in touch with the owner regarding the
situation. You know about the pending sale. >> Yes, sir. All right. And you feel comfortable in 120 days this is going to get resolved >> at least getting it started. >> All right. Just as an aside, one of the issues that came up in another
jurisdiction in Pitum County, apparently the tax collector and the property appraiser sometimes have different addresses. And at least um in the other jurisdiction they had elacrity enough to send certified letters to both places
and they got a response. But I was just the first time I've seen that. I didn't know how often that comes up in other circumstances. But it's a good idea to cover your ground and just send it to all available known addresses. All right. You're alleging uh violations of
two sections of the city code 30-169 building fronts and sides abuting public streets and public areas and prohibited conditions and public nuisances and 30-32 uh 169 and you have included in the record uh
pertinent sections of both ordinances. Is that correct? >> Yes, sir. And all the other records in the um file are to track copies of the official records of city pala. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. >> Hang on a second. Let me look at 169.
169. All deteriorated. Well, I'll let you There's a lot in 169 and there's a lot in 30-32. I'm gonna let you tell me what sections you're referencing and what the
violations are. >> Okay. >> Um Oh, here it is. 30-32. Okay. Why don't we um why don't we do it this way? We have the printed sections of the code and we you're going to match up the sections of the code with your evidence. Correct.
>> Yes, sir. >> All right. And you have some photographs for us? >> I do, sir. >> And did you take the photographs? >> Yes, sir. >> And do the photographs accurately represent the condition of the property and date in which you took them? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. Please proceed. >> Okay. One A is the um deteriorating
structure. It's a um section 30-169 where it's deteriorated in on the front corner that left corner of the home. >> Okay, hang on. And we're looking at 1B. Bravo 1 A. >> This is showing it's still the same. It hasn't been changed.
>> All right. Looking I'm looking at photograph labeled 1A referencing 130-169. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. So the pertinent section of the code is what?
>> The section of the code is the deteriorate is the um the rotten excuse me the deteriorated structure of it the part of the code. >> Okay, hang on there. All right,
I'm I'm sorting I'm sorting through the list of ordinances in your file and it 30-169 is repeated. So, I'm trying to make sure I got the right one, but it is 169 and we're talking about deteriorated structure and decorative elements visible from a public rideway.
Is that correct? >> Yes, sir. >> Is anything any other part of the ordinance? >> No, sir. >> Just that. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. So in number in 1 A you got a deteriorated structural decorative element. So what's
the structural decorative element that get back to it that where that corner is that was the um it was the uh that and the I think it's on my other one number two.
>> Just focus on one A right now. >> Focus on A. Well, that's part of it too. >> So is this on the port you're looking at? >> Yes, sir. All right. >> Right there on the >> and just put some words to the picture and tell me exactly what's wrong with it. >> That the metal, excuse me, the brick corner
right there at the bottom has been hit by a car. So, it's damaged there on the corner where it's not. >> Is there a column missing? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. But it looks like there's a column on the other side of the port >> that matches it.
>> All right. So, that entire column is missing. missing. >> And is that column structural to that gable over the porch? >> Yes, sir. Because it could fall. >> Okay. So, the remedy is to what? Replace the column. >> That column and fix that that corner piece so that it can hold that column.
>> Very good. Okay. Next is 1B. Bravo >> is also related to the same um deteriorated um structure where that column is leaning
where the arrow is pointing. You can see that column leaning. >> Okay. Okay. I'm looking at 1B. The arrows pointed to the same corner where the column is missing. Correct. 1B is the same is the same as um
>> same same violation. >> It's the same violation. >> And just that column needs to be replaced to structurally support >> the roof. >> Okay. All right. Next
>> 2 A shows the column that's leaning >> and we're still in 30-169. We're still in 30-169. >> Yeah. >> All right. And that column needs to be shored up. >> It needs to be fixed or replaced. It would support the the porch line.
>> Does any of that require building permit? >> Yeah, I would believe so. I would say it would need a >> Is that something the city does or the county does? >> I would say the county, >> but they got you want 120 days. So, they have to get the permit or apply for the
permit. They would at least have to apply for the the name >> go from there. >> Okay. >> All right. >> TB again is just showing it still has this still the same. >> And all of these are visible from North N Street.
>> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Basically, we've got the left hand column is missing. The left center column is uh deformed, not adequately supporting the roof. >> Correct. What is holding that roof up?
>> The only two columns that's well that freaking column and the other two are the only good columns that's that's there. >> 3A now. Are you moving to a different section of 169? >> Moving to a different section.
>> Which which section is that? >> We're moving to the deteriorating paint. Let me flip over here real quick. And that is B. I was find it reinforcements. >> So is this missing paint?
>> It's deterior that part is missing, but it's deteriorating every the whole building is. >> Well, okay. We got to match up your words to the photo. So you're showing me 3A. >> Yes, sir. >> In 3A, you're you're claiming a violation of 3169.
And is that subsection um B? >> Yes. >> So where surfaces were once painted or stained, not more than 10% of the surface may be free of paint or stain. >> Right. Yes, sir. >> All right. So in 3A,
we're looking at the right corner of the front gable. >> Yes, sir. >> Anything else? We're also looking at right underneath the porch area in in 3A. >> Is that missing paint?
>> It's stripped away. So, I would say yes, it's missing paint down in that area. >> Okay. And what is your basis to conclude that it's um you knew this was coming? I'm sure. Um, see
that it's more than 10% of the surface area of the elevation. >> Yes, sir. >> Is it? >> Yes. >> How do you know that? >> Because of this part up here and what's not painted up there. What's not painted
down here? I could say what's not in the picture, but we're not on that part. But yes, it was more than what's >> the attorney may have some helpful language for you. >> Is it based on your experience as a code
enforcement officer here in Paka? >> Based on my experience here code enforcement and >> and make sure anytime you bring an ordinance up, your duty is to convince me, you know, for first of all to vote for you, but secondly, give me a legal
way to vote for you. So, I need some evidence regarding that 10%. Whoever put it in the code put it in there, but we have to live with it. And your duty is to give me the evidence about the 10%. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. So, as to that paint, there are two areas for paint. There's a third
arrow pointing up. Is that more deteriorated paint? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. So, we're looking at subsection B again. And and that needs to be repainted. >> Yes, sir. >> To a color consistent with the other paint on the building. >> To the color consistent with the rest of
it. >> Okay. as with 3A. What's next? >> 3B is just showing it's still the same. >> Okay. >> That nothing has changed. >> All right. Next >> 4 A is um we're still under the 3169 the
deteriorating paint. I'm just showing another spectrum of the building that is um where the paint is deteriorated from it. So 169 the 10% figures for the entire surface of the house all four sides.
>> Yes sir. >> All right. So we need to couch your question. So what you showed me on the front and this are there other parts of the house that have deteriorated paint? >> Yes sir. >> All right. So keep that in mind. >> Yes sir. >> So what needs to be done here is that is
that the entire side of the house needs to be painted >> of that one side? Yes sir. Okay. And it's basically just getting a consistent color. >> Yes, sir. >> So, that's the kind of information I need to get from you without prompting to say this is what needs to be this is what's wrong. But then we can translate
that into what needs to be done. All right. Next. >> Okay. 5 A is 31 169 the mold. >> Go back to 4B. >> 4B. I'm sorry. >> Just another picture. It's another
picture just showing that nothing's changed. >> Right. Now going to 5A. >> Yes, sir. >> Again, it's section 130 is section 3169. Mold and mildew.
>> Mold and mildew. >> Yes, sir. >> And that one, that's subsection D. Mildew shall be cleaned from buildings having street visibility and loose wires. Yes sir. >> This is about cleaning what?
>> These cleaning the steps. >> Okay. So basically the steps and the ballastrades around them. >> Yes sir. >> And rails. >> That just needs to be pressure cleaned. >> Pressure wash is fine.
>> Can you tell if there's any paint on there at all? >> I couldn't tell to be honest. So, we have to pressure wash it and there's no paint under there. It needs to be painted. >> I would suggest that they paint that as well. And they >> Well, is that a suggestion or a
requirement? >> I want them to paint it, but >> you think the code requires it? >> I think I know the code requires it. >> Okay. All right. What's 5B? >> 5B is just showing that nothing has been done.
>> All right. 6A. 6A is also one is also 3169 showing more mold and mildew. >> And this is the right section of the house as seen right elevation is seen
from 9inth Street. >> Yes sir. >> So that needs to be pressure washed before it's painted basically. >> Yes sir. And 6B is still there. What's 7A?
>> 7 A is um 3169 the rotten and weakened >> that is part of um >> and this is subsection B in play. Every part of a such structure visible from public rideway or budding street should
be made structurally sound. Rotten or weakened portions should be removed, repaired or replaced in a manner compatible with the rest of the structure. Correct. Okay. And specific, Can you put some words to the photo and tell me exactly what needs to be done here?
>> The front porch, the um walking on the front porch, the floor of it, >> okay, >> needs to be redone. This the worst parts that I seen, the whole porch is bad, but the worst parts I seen was right where
the blue arrows are. And my suggestion or my um >> recommendation >> recommendation, thank you for the word to fix it is replacing that whole the all the wood.
>> It needs the rotten wood needs to be replaced on the porch >> to be replaced with new woods. >> 7B. >> This shows it hasn't been nothing has been done. 8. Oh, goody.
>> 8A is section 30 169. Also, loose hanging wires. >> Where do those go? Do you know? >> I do not. They're just hanging from the roof of the house. I don't know if they were supposed to be tied into the cable
or the electrical box. >> They're just hanging out. >> Okay. >> And that's subsection D of 30-169. >> Yes. Right. >> Such be that'll be secured. >> 8B >> 19 D.
>> Okay. >> And 8B is the same. Hasn't been touched. >> 9A. >> 9A is also 3169 the roofing in the front porch. And if you
>> is that the sophet or the roof or both? >> It's it's both. You got two gables there. >> No, it's the roof because the arrows pointing on the porch roof where the wood is broke through. There's a hole in
the porch roof >> and then the roofing is >> So the p the piece of wood sticking up is over the porch. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. >> And there's rotten um wood on the that's on the roof the roof as well as the roof
on the house. >> All right. So, you've got the sopet on the roof of the house. You have the sophet on the roof over the porch. >> Yes, sir. >> You have a missing wood on the roof over the porch. >> Yes, sir. >> Anything else about the roof over the
house? >> It's got some tin, but that's still part of the roof repair. >> So, I'm just curious as specifically what the violation is and specifically what the cure. What is the city? >> They need to replace the roofing. They need to
>> when you say roofing that's what's on top. You're talking about the sophet in the front >> and the sophet on the front. They need to replace that. They need to repair. They need to pull that off. >> Okay. >> Permit to replace your their wood on
>> both the sophet on the roof and sophet on the porch. >> Yes. Okay. Yes, sir. >> And then fix the roof on the porch. >> And fix the roof on the porch. Yes, sir. >> Okay. Can you tell if that soft wood is rotten or does it just need to be repainted?
You may not be able to, but >> if up close it looks like it could just be painted. Okay, >> it looks like it's >> But if it's rotten, it needs to be >> rotten and replaced, but it looks like it's just got a little bit of mildew and some mildew on it.
>> But the top of the roof on the house itself, you don't have an issue with at this point. >> I'm sorry. the top of the roof on the house itself you don't have an issue with at this point. Correct. >> 9B. >> 9B just shows where it's not been
nothing's been done. >> Okay. So, in terms of 3169, we're talking about a missing column on the left front elevation. is seen from Ninth Street. >> Yes, sir.
>> A a a crooked column on the left center elevation of of the porch as seen from Ninth Street. >> Yes, sir. >> In terms of painting, you have an area on the right front of the house as well as the entire
right elevation of the house as seen from Ninth Street. >> Yes, sir. >> The entire right elevation you think would be at least 25% of the surface area of the house. Yes, sir. >> That's one way to help beat that because the 10% apparently applies to the entire surface area of the house. Okay. As as
seen from the street, the porch wood that is rotten needs to be replaced. Correct. >> Correct. >> The stairs need to be pressure washed and have needed repainted. Correct.
>> Correct. The sopets on both the porch roof and the main roof need to be uh painted and or replaced if necessary. Correct. >> Correct. >> And the roof on the right front angle of the house needs to be repaired because there's a hole in it.
>> Correct. >> Those are the violations. >> Yes, ma'am. >> And you're going to give them 120 days to do that. >> Yes, ma'am. >> And $25 per day per violation is the recommendation. >> Yes, sir. made aware of that.
>> Right. Last call for Jonah Johnson or Lois Johnson or anyone representing either of them being and hearing no one and finding that due process has been satisfied by the submission of a certified letter
indicating the notice of violation and the notice of this hearing to the official owners and address of record is maintained by the property appraiser and tax collector of Putnham County and finding that the uh certified letter was received with a green card from the postal service uh received. No, excuse
me. Was not received. Did you get a green card? >> Yes, sir. I did. >> There was one here that's blank. Hang on. >> The signed one should be behind it. >> There is a sign on. Okay, here it is. A signed green card is included in the official record indicating that Lois Johnson received
notice of the certified letter and finding that substantial incompetent evidence exists to find violations of section 30-169 and 30-32 of the building codes. Um 30-169 dealing with uh the uh support columns on the
front porch. um the rotten wood, the paint that needs to be replaced. Um there's also finding that there is roofing set needs to be replaced. Roofing over the porch, there's this damaged section needs to be replaced.
There's some loose hanging wires also on the property need to be fixed. Is that correct? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. will enter an order to find the violation requiring that the property owner bring the property into compliance no later than 120 days uh from the date
of this hearing. Uh that read by the end of uh okay 120 days is what? >> October 14th. >> That's the 120th day. Correct. >> October 15th will be the 21st day.
>> Okay. I was looking at your recommendation. The 120 days is the end of compliance. So, the property needs to be brought in compliance by the end of business on October 14th. >> Yes, sir. >> $25 day fine cannot commence until the following day, which is October 15th. >> Yes, sir.
>> Is that a Saturday, Sunday, or holiday? >> That's a Friday. >> I'm sorry. >> That's a Friday. >> On 15th. So, yes, sir. All right. >> It said it all started on the 14th. So, watch out for your your language. In the event of non-compliance, a fine
of $25 per day per violation shall commence on October 15, 2026. Right. Can we go off for a second? It's 207. ready. Okay, we take our next case is
case number 2026 076. Property located at 314 Emit Street in Palatka. Owner of record appears to be Immobileria. in Mobilaria Data LLC. That's a tongue twister for
that. Is there anyone here who is representing inmobileria DATA LLC? Seeing and hearing what? Miss Low. >> Yes, sir. This is going to be case
number 2026 076 uh 314 IMT Street, Palaca, Florida 32177. I am the case officer, Christy Lowe. This case was first observed from a complaint received from citizens on April 2nd, 2026. The notice for this
hearing was sent May 27th, 2026. I have received neither uh green card back or signed. Complex posting was done on June 8, 2026. The site posting was done on the same date, June 8, 2026.
And sir, in reference to this case, I do have 12 violations and then I will let you know which ones go with which picture. >> All right, let me do some due process. Um, you did send the official notice notification letters to the official
address of record, which is 14741 Mill Foil Avenue, Orlando, Florida 32827. Correct. >> Yes, sir. The official address tax collector's roles. >> Yes, sir. >> Had any contact with those people? You didn't get the green card back. Do you
have any contact after posting? >> Not with the actual owner. No. >> Who do you have contact with? >> We had contacts with the contractors. >> Okay. >> Um, >> that's a nice term. What does that mean? >> Well, they were the ones working on the house that pulled the permit. >> There is being worked on. >> There was. It hasn't been any work in
almost seven months. >> Okay. So, when you did you when when you talk with the contractors, what did you learn from them? >> Basically, the owner is missing in action. Um, he's out of town. The bank's been trying to get a hold of him and the
contractors. That's why they have no more works been done on the property. >> Okay. You have alleged six violations through various standards of the code. >> There's actually 12 violations. >> 12 violations. >> Yes, sir. Six different code provisions.
>> Yes, sir. Correct. >> I shall wait for you to regail me with sorting this out with clarity happened in life. >> I'm going to do my best. >> But you did post a property in accordance with state law and you have your affidavit included in the record. >> Yes, sir. I do. >> All right.
>> This has looks like a complicated history. So why don't you take me through um just for the record all the documents in the f in the record are true and correct copies of documents of city palacta? >> That's correct. Yeah. >> And are all the photographs? Did you
take them? >> I took them. Yes. >> Do they accurately represent the condition of property and date in which you took them? >> Yes, sir. They do. >> All right. You lead. >> Yes, sir. So photo 1A is just an overall picture of the backside of the house taken from Laurel Street and I violated
it for section 3068 minimum standards for maintenance and it's going to be the first sentence blight blighting influence or blighting factors mean either or which endangers life or property by fire cause that substantially impairs or arrests the sound growth or the city. So, if you
look at this house and the surrounding houses, um, with my expertise of being a code enforcement officer, this house is blighted. >> Okay. Does the city have a definition of blight?
>> So, they do. Um, basically, it's to warm it up nicely. It is not a very pretty or safely structured home. >> Okay. in reference to 24, I mean, excuse me,
2A. It's going to be off the same um It's going to be off the same 1A. A minute. >> Back to 1 A. Yes, sir. >> Okay. 1A. You've got 3168 minimum of standards blighted property. >> That's correct. >> So, what about the photograph makes it
blighted? Put some words on that. >> Okay. Okay. So, in reference to the back of the house, what makes this blighted is the windows are not correctly fit in. It is being held up by 2 by twos in some places, 4x4s in other. The part um I apologize, where the white square is, the bottom part of the house is actually
rotted and is being held up by these uh the boards that are not been stained or painted. Um upstairs is the same way. Um >> you're talking about the 2x4s? >> Yes, they're the second floor balcony. >> They're actually holding up the house. >> Okay.
So in in >> whole house or just the porch? >> Well, right now it's the whole house. >> Okay. >> So this is just the back of the house which is is blighted to the the rest of the neighborhood. >> So basically I'm looking at the fact you have structural components that are
inadequate. You have windows that are inadequately supported. Whatever that tarp is on the conditions just unattractive and distracting. >> Correct. It's it's not aesthetically um pleasing to the eye if you look at the reference to the other houses in the
neighborhood. Now again, this is the back of the house taken from Laurel Street. looking at 1B. I'm I'm just going to briefly interject here uh with the code provision defining blight is under section 30-168
>> and it is uh blight blighting influence or blighting factor means either that which endangers life or property by fire or other causes or that which substantially impairs or arrests the sound growth of the city and is a menace to the public health, safety, morals or
welfare in its present condition and use. And it includes unsanitary or unsafe conditions, uh deterioration of site or other improvements, a laundry list of factors. >> And what we have in 1A is in improper
support of some of the main components of the house >> as well as both the porch and the windows. >> Correct. Blighting >> and whatever that tarp does for >> Yes, sir. >> adding to the visual. Okay. >> 2 A. 2A is going to be the front of the house,
which in my expertise and being a code enforcement officer is also blighted. It is unsafe. Um, and that's why I also deem the front of the house. >> Why do you Okay. What? Put some words to the unsafe part. >> Okay. So, when you're looking at this
picture in a general, you have the white columns which are all rotted. You have a It's actually This one here is going to be I believe this one was a 4x4 and it's being held up the actual front porch. >> So 1A was the back side
>> was the back side. This the front side. Correct. >> Is this a corner lot? >> This is going to be a two-facing road from EMTT and Laurel. >> Okay. So you took these photographs from the public right away. >> So yes sir, I did. >> Okay. So on the front side, you've still
got the, you know, what, two columns or >> there's actually four columns and they all are rotten and weakened. Um, actually the one that uh is to the left is being held up by some kind of construction tape. >> Okay.
So as to these the porches, you just need to have the uh permittable porch supports for the >> porch and the front porch. So in reference to this 30-68 the minimum standards these two are only in reference to the blighting and influence
of the blighting. >> Okay is more appearance >> correct >> number 3A >> number 3A is going to be underneath section 3169 building fronts and sides of budding streets. This is going to be
um cited under immunity code 369A. All deteriorated structural and decorative elements visible from the public rideway shall be repaired or replaced. So when you're looking at 3A um I'm showing you arrows where it's
showing um that the structure is unsound. Um when I look at that I see columns falling into the house. There's rotten and weak in wood. The structure has cracks in it. Um, so this is going
to be 3A. >> I'm looking at the two 2x4s that are holding up the porch. Is that basically it? >> That is that is what you're showing me are not adequate to support of the porch. >> That's correct, sir.
>> Okay. Next. So, in reference to 4A, it's going to be underneath the same subsection. I just wanted to give you a different visual of where I stated the uh foundation is cracking. I wanted to show you a crack. Then I wanted to show you how they um supported the 4x4 on a
piece of u particle plywood. >> We haven't the particle board on the bottom. There's another arrow on the top pointing left. >> I just wanted to show you how it is just sitting on it. It's not there. I could not visibly see any nails or anything holding that other than it's just
sitting on it. >> I don't believe that structurally found >> the brick. This is a the porch. >> This is facing the front porch. Yes, sir. >> So that brick wall around the porch is structural in the sense it holds up the columns that hold up the porch.
>> That's correct, sir. Next, >> in reference to 5A, it's just um from the same subsection 30-69 um subsection A. I just wanted to give you another visual. If you look at the far right
tilent or column, you can see where it's detaching from the um what's holding up on the second floor. And on the bottom part on the right concrete column that's holding the white column, it is actually coming away from the house and leaning towards the right. If you look back over
where on the left side where the arrow is pointing down, the concrete the pressure of all this, it's actually lifting up on the bottom stairs. And where the other arrow is, it's also the foundation is cracking on that side also. So, is the are the two columns spreading
apart at the top? Is that what we're saying? >> They they definitely are. The over one over here on the far right, it's almost completely off the second floor. >> Okay. So the the fix for this somehow they have to secure not only the
columns or they have to secure the brick wall around the bottom of the porch that holds the columns. >> That's correct, sir. >> Okay. In reference to the next photo, it's
going to be uni code 3069 building fronts and sides of budding streets and public area. We're going to be up underneath B. Rotten or weakened portions shall be removed, repaired, or replaced in a manner compatible with the rest of the structure or to match the
original materials and construction techniques. All exposed wood shall be stained or painted. Every part shall be clean of graffiti, litter, dirt, or other debris where surfaces were once painted. So, in reference to 6A, um if you're facing
um EMTT Street, it is going to be on the left side, the the boards are actually rotten and coming apart and falling down. There's uh one, two, three, three columns that on the left side that are coming down, rotted or weakened. And this is this
is this the surface of the h of the house? >> This is the actual outside of the house. >> Not that part, but is is it the shingles or the what is it on that house? Just >> the wood. >> Just wood. >> Yes, sir. >> Clapard. >> Yep. Just wood. >> So, is that what it is? Is it the clabber that needs to be replaced?
>> That's correct. >> But so that's not structural per se, but it's just more decorative. >> It is structural because it's part of the house. Um it's hard to see. Interesting. >> It doesn't It's not a loadbear. No. Okay. But it it is structural. I see what you're saying. >> Yes. And the reason why I say
structural, once the bottom one looks like it fell, it's starting to go in at a rotten weekend. It's all breaking in the same area. That's going to be 6A. 7A. I did an up close uh picture of the column just to
show you where even though it may not be rotten on the inside much, that does have it's being held up by the the 2x4 I believe it is. But if you really look at the cotm, the bottom bottom is rotten and weakened. And it is splitting um the
you can actually see where the board is splitting. It's either rotten or weakened on each and every one. It has both of them. >> All right. So this is a repeat of the previous photo showing this this column on the front of the house. Correct. >> Well, one was considered to show you the
blight. This is the rotten and weakened wood. in reference to >> Does this brick that goes around the porch, is that the foundation of the house? >> It is the foundation. >> So, it goes around the entire house. >> It goes around the entire house. >> Okay. And we see on the front where it
looks like it's compromised. >> Correct. >> The brick part. >> It is compromised. Yes, sir. >> On the left side, could you see where it was compromised? There >> it is. It has cracks all through the um foundation of the brick. So in reference >> and you may not know this is this brick
over concrete block or is it just brick? >> So where it's falling apart I can see that it's just brick. >> Okay. The brick is in the entire load bearing. >> So the brick is the load bearing and then where there's like a big hole in the brick like a crawl space you don't
see any concrete. You see the like blocks. >> So it's sitting on blocks. >> It s it look it appears to be sitting on blocks from what I can see. brick really isn't the main. >> It's not the main. >> That's what I was getting at is what holds this house up. >> Yes, sir. >> So, in reference to 8A, it's just
another um visual photo to explain some rotten and weakened wood. The porch is falling through. And then you can also see some of the decorative elements. They're coming apart from either >> ballastrade and the porch. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. And it's actually the whole porch, but I
just gave you an uplose visual of what the rest of the porch does look like. >> 9A. >> So yes, sir. 9A is going to go with 3069 building and fronts and sides of budding streets and public areas. All exposed wood shall be painted or stained. Every
part shall be clean of graffiti, litter, dirt, other debris where surfaces were once painted or stained. No more than 10% of the surface may be free for your paint or stain. Um, walking around the house, what I can visually see, we're about 60% that needs to be painted.
>> So 98. >> Your professional experience as a code enforcement, >> correct? I take the house as a whole and I divide it into four and then I try to go in each block what I believe. And at this one, I came up with 60%.
So, if you're looking at 9A, which is going to be on the left side of the home, I just wanted to give you a closeup of where the paint is chipping and coming off. >> Okay, next >> 10A. Um, up underneath the same um uni
code, I pointed to my arrows up where it was all once painted blue, it is almost now a faded white color. So the whole top of the second floor is going to be included in needing to be a fresh coat of even coat of paint. 11A is just another side.
>> Looking at the front of the second story porch, >> correct? >> The front of the house itself, is there an issue there at all? >> So yes, >> is that later? >> It I believe it's going to be later. There's a >> Go ahead. So, this one here just shows the top
part of the house that needs to be a fresh coat of paint. >> A consistent coat. >> Yes, sir. Fresh even coat of paint. In reference to 11A, um you can see on the corner of the house there's a lot of
spot. Um just needs a fresh even coat of paint and it's that way along this whole side of the house. >> Okay. 12A um is the opposite side. It's going to be the side facing Laurel. And you can pretty much look at that whole
side. It either has um a bunch of white spots and then it has a bunch of faded spots. Um with photo 9A, 10A, 11A, and 12A, that's where I did come up with this 60% due to the fact that the majority of the house does need to
be painted. Just out of curiosity, if they repaint this thing and it's but supposed to be the same color, >> is it really going to match? I mean, is that going to satisfy the city? >> Well, in the historic section, they're going to have to go to building and zoning and they're going to have to look
at the paint chart with us. We just require a fresh even coat of paint. So, >> that was the even part, >> correct? >> If can you really just paint part of it and make it even? >> That's why I said it fades and gets old. >> It's really going to have to be all painted. But with what I am currently
looking at, if they can do the other 40%, you say yes. >> Okay. >> Um, the next photograph is going to be section 3069 building fronts and sides abuing streets. This is going to be C.
Existing miscellaneous non-function functional elements on the building fronts such as empty electrical conduits, unused signs, brackets, etc. shall be removed and building surfaces required or rebuilt as required to match
adjacent surfaces in original condition. 13A, you have two exposed um electrical boxes. Um they would just need a face cover on them at this time. Uh it's not showing any power to the house, but they are
still open as a safety issue. Okay. 14A is going to be underneath the same subsection. I just wanted to show an empty box with wires that's going to need to be removed, repaired, or replaced. And honestly, I'm not sure what it is,
but maybe the homeowner does. Reference to 15A, we have a bunch of loose wires. They're actually going down into the ground, but I wanted to show you where they're coming out of the house, and he's going to have to either replace them, repair them, um, or remove them.
In reference to 16A, this is going to be section 3169 exterior property areas. This is going to be underneath subsection A. Article shall be kept free of all nuisances, any hazards to the
safety of occupants, customers, pedestrians, or any other persons utilizing the premises or free of unsanitary conditions as defined in the health department official. Any foregoing shall be promptly removed or
abated by the owner or the operator. Um, basically what we have here, um, I did have our engineer look at it and she did believe this was a safety hazard. Um, that's why we >> being specifically what >> this picture here, if we're looking at
it again, this is what we're going to look at the the wood holding it up, >> the cracks in the structure, >> the exterior part with my expertise. And >> so we're looking at hazard to pedestrians. >> Yes, sir. It is. Um
>> it's the 2x4 in the middle of the steps. >> Actually, I did speak to two people in the property um that live two doors down and I asked them I said, "Why did you guys just get off the sidewalk?" They said, "We're not walking in front of that house." Um in reference to
>> So, they're afraid they're going to fall in on them. >> They are. Everybody in the neighborhood. >> The arrow points to a public sidewalk. >> So, let me pull that back up. I apologize. Yes. I wanted you to see how close the sidewalk is. The house is probably exactly 13 14 inches and then
the sidewalk is there. This is a big house on a very small piece of property. >> It's so the the city's experts have deemed that walking the sidewalk could be dangerous. >> So actually she recommended us closing
the sidewalk off honestly and we're actually in the process of doing that. >> That's where I was going. >> Yes, sir. Yeah, we're in the process of having cones and uh taping off that part of the sidewalk. >> 17A. >> Yes, sir. In reference to 17A, this is
going to be section 3213, responsibilities of mortgage and owners of vacant, blighted, unsecure of abandoned structures. At this point, um, with this picture overall, I'm just showing you, um, from nobody being there in the last seven months, no contact
with the property owner. Um, construction company said they're not going to come back and do any work unless they get paid. We are looking at an abandoned un unsafe structure right now. >> Are the windows open? >> There are six windows that are pretty
much open. They're not securely fit, so they keep coming down. They're falling down. >> Are the doors open? So, the front door appears to be closed, but the back door, it's got a board that's kind of pushing it shut. >> In other words, it could be easily entered.
>> Oh, yes, sir. >> 18A. >> So, 18A is going to be uh section 30-215 foreclosed, blighted, unsecured, abandoned structure registration. I did check with our ARMS data and this
building has never been registered with orange data as blighted, unsecured, abandoned, um, vacant. >> Nail me with what is orange and date? >> So, Arms Data is our third property company that instead of the city doing leans, registrations, and all that on a
piece of property, they do all of that themselves, and they pay ARMS data the fee and um, they keep up with all of our datas and records and that. 19A. >> Yes, sir. >> 19A is going to be subsection 30-32A,
prohibited conditions and public nuisance. Number 10, failure to replace or repair with similar or improved materials in a reasonable period not to exceed 60 days broken or missing building components, including but not limited to doors, windows, roofing
materials, sighting, drives, sidewalks, outside of the rideway, which detract from the aesthetics of the neighborhood, shopping area, industrial area, or other commercial areas within service of this district. And in reference to the 60 days, this house has been like this for
5 years that I can find. And each owner that has had it has been issued the violations and none of this has been corrected. So it has been well over 60 days. >> Also, and and this picture here is going to be I apologize. The description is
going to be roofing issues. Felt plastic covering has blown off the roof, leaving it exposed. So, this black felt was on the roof. >> We're looking at 20A. >> Uh, I'm sorry, 19A. >> 19A. >> My apologies, sir. >> That's okay. >> So, with 19A, they did remove the roof
and they did start working on the roof. It is not completed. Um, and now this this is what's coming off the roof and blowing into uh neighbors yards. >> Okay. >> In reference to 2A, I just wanted to show you a picture where they did start
the roof. There's still a lot of rotten and weakened wood. They have not completed it, but the plastic felt that is falling off is no longer on the top of the roof either. It is basically come off into the neighbor's yards. >> So, is all the roofing tile off of this and just the underllayment exposed?
>> So, yes, it's what it appears. It looks like they took the roof off, but there's still some rotten and weakened areas up there that have not been fixed. And it was all covered with um this black felt. Um, so it's kind of hard the dynamics with the trees are to get exactly where
it's not completed, but I was able to show the front where the roofing was still being covered and not complete. >> Yes, sir. In reference to 21A, we're looking at section 3032A, prohibited conditions and public nuisance. I went
with section two, excessive and unattended growth of grass, weeds, brush, branches, and other overgrowth. When you look at this, um, and I apologize, I did not have my ruler, but it is overgrowth. The last time that it was cut, it was cut by a neighbor, and that was approximately eight months ago.
So, it's been eight months of excessive unattended growth. >> And how high should it be? >> Um, and our MUN code is uh 18 in. So, this needs to be down to 12 in >> or not excessive. Okay.
In reference to 22A, excuse me, we're going with section 30 32A, prohibited conditions and public nuisance. I section number nine, property adversely affecting and impairing the economic value of
enjoyment of surrounding or nearby properties. Reason why I went with this, every homeowner in the area has made a complaint on this property stating that it is bringing values down. It's unsafe and it is not an enjoyment to look at.
>> Okay. >> In reference to 23A section 3032A, prohibited conditions and public nuisance, I went with number seven, property threatening or endangering the public health, safety or welfare of our
city residents. And sir, I believe that, you know, this is a safety issue and it's being held up by boards, uh, cracks in the foundation. That's why I went with number seven on that one. >> And sir, that is all my evidence I have
to present to you today. >> Well, you did short it. >> All right. What kind of time frame is this? You see city's asking >> sir the city is asking 10 days um due to
the fact with the conversations we've had with the construction workers the bank um 10 days uh we do believe this is a safety issue and we are working to to rectify that. We are going to give the property owner 10 days to make contact with us. I'm going to continually try to
make contact with him but the city is asking for 10 days. So you want 10 days to bring all these. >> So we know for a fact that that's >> all these issues into compliance. >> We know for a fact that's not possible. Okay. But if that does not happen, we do
have another option that we are working on on this property. Um and maybe Miss West can go further into that. But he has 10 days basically to contact us, get the proper permits, and make this structure. >> Well, that's what I'm getting to. That's different than what I heard the first
time because now if you say go get the permit to do all this work, that's different than completing the >> It is different. So, let me let me clarify real quick. The 10 days is is to me we're we're very giving him an extension. He in 10 days he needs to make this property safe. If they say
this property is safe after the 10 days, then he can do whatever permits he needs to do to move forward. But this property needs to come in >> of the property owner. I apologize. The property owner needs to make this property safe. >> Who determines safe? That would be you. >> So, at this point, um it is not
structurally safe from our engineer. We are currently going to work with the county to have this posted. Um as unsafe, but we're we're running into some issues right there. Um but we are working. >> Not all this work requires a permit. >> No, sir. Not all of it requires a permit.
>> So, mowing the grass, >> mowing the grass, stuff like that. Um, >> but the structural things and I'm looking you presented there 21 pages of photographs. >> Yes, sir. >> Mowing the grass shouldn't require a permit. >> It does not.
>> The blighted issues, all the blight you described is also related to structural issues which require a permit. >> That's correct. >> So, as I'm reading this, curing the structural issues cures the blight, but you can't cure the blight without curing the structural issues.
>> That's correct. Okay. Are are there any current building permits out there on this property? >> So, there is a building permit, but it's for um only the roof, and because of that permit of the roof, um the county does not want to deem it unsafe. They
said if anything currently happens, it'll be up to the contractors to face the liability. >> So, the county saying it's not unsafe. >> They're not unsafe. >> They're not saying it's not unsafe. They're saying that because of that active permit um they can't deem it
unsafe structure. And I um >> roof you're just talking about the top of the roof. >> Correct. That was all the permanent. >> It doesn't have the shingles on it. >> Correct. >> So that's in itself as of today isn't unsafe. It's just exposed.
>> It is just exposed. Um our interim uh chief shaw >> light issue and appearance issue. >> Yes sir. I did meet with the uh city interim um chief Shaw and he also took a copy of everything and went to the county. We're
still waiting on a >> So that's there's a permit for the roof. >> Yes, sir. >> So in 10 days as to the roof, do you want them to finish the roof? >> So I just want the structure deemed safe. Um that's where we're at right
now. >> So see what I'm asking for you to be able to tell me is at the end of this hearing, there needs to be an understanding that could be conveyed to the owner what will bring this property into compliance. So if the owner was to contact me today, I would tell him the
columns need to be structurally sound. The cracks in >> fixed in that time or permitted to do it. >> So in the 10 days, honestly, in 10 days, if he was to call me today for us to deem this safe, I would need um certain things fixed. I
would request a fence or something around the property so nobody can make entry onto the property. That's what I would ask if he calls today. This property to me is a safety hazard. Um I know 10 days is not a lot. Um but we have had no contact with him. Nobody
else is going to come to the property do anything. So we're asking for 10 days. I mean I still think that that's kind of >> Oh, and I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm going to is the practicality of getting anything done. >> Correct. >> You don't want to let you know let up
off the gas on motivation. Correct. in a sense of what are you going to do to solve these problems then there's a practicality of actually doing it because then if they start tomorrow realistically less stuff ain't going to get done in 10 days >> correct >> so that's why I'm trying to discriminate between what requires a permit and what
doesn't permit and what doesn't correct it's like you got three categories the things that don't require a permit probably you can do in 10 days with basically just the grass maybe painting some of it >> all right that doesn't require a permit things that have a permit
is the roof, which is I guess the permit is still valid. Question is, can they fix it in 10 days? Then as to non-p permits, what I heard you say was that we'll accept a permit application beginning within 10 days. >> Correct.
>> So, I'm okay with that. I'm back to the roof. Do they have to finish the roof in 10 days? >> The roof, I mean, does not have to be finished in 10 days. They do have the permit for that, but we did not have an open uh case on this. And that is part that the roofing if they >> with that um
>> I'm just trying to make sure you're on the page. So somebody asked what do I got to do to fix this correct and what it's going to be. >> So the roof is probably the only thing that is structurally sound at this point um looking at it. Um so yeah they have plenty of time to finish the roof under but the poles holding it up aren't
>> correct. >> Okay. >> Um so you know that's going to be underneath that permit that's open. And I did look to see if any inspections were done and it did not show any inspections have been done on the roof yet. >> So, dart work on the roof in 10 days under the permit. >> Well, the roof's already started. They
have the permit for that. >> Okay. >> But the reason why we're here, >> just so I'm clear, do you want them to finish it in 10 days? >> That would be nice. Um, >> what do you want? What does the city want? >> I would like to see everything done in 10 days. >> I understand that, but I'm talking about the roof.
>> The roof? No, sir. They have until the end of their permit expiration date. >> Okay. Whenever that is. >> Um I believe it's three months. >> All right. That's consistent. We can make that work. Yes. >> In a sense of they already have the permit. >> Correct. >> Finish finish the roof within the time allowed by the permit.
>> That's correct, sir. >> As to the unpermitted matters that require one, you need to get the permit application. A bonafideed good faith effort to file the application. Complete the filing within 10 days. I guess that can be done. Is that where
you are? >> Yes, sir. >> And as to the non-p permittable items, paint and grass, need to finish that within 10 days. >> Yes, sir. And secure the property. And secure the property. >> Buy some type of fencing.
>> Correct. Yes, sir. >> The property runs right. Is that sidewalk on their property? Is on the >> sidewalk isn't on their property, but this is a huge house. Basically, it appears to be two lot and there's not much room. Well, I get that point.
I guess I was thinking just it's a practical matter. How do you secure it and keep things from falling off on you on the sidewalk? >> You can't. That's the problem that I'm having right now. That is my current issue with this. >> That's why you maybe don't let him walk on the sidewalk at all.
>> That's why we're trying to have it posted. >> I mean, that's something within your purview, but still. >> Did you anything else? >> So, permit expired on April 7th. It's >> okay. Then he pulled it. He asked for an extension. Um the contractor did. Um so
it must have went back to the expiration date because he didn't. He must not have got paid. >> So it's expired. >> It is now currently expired. >> So he'd have to start over. >> He's going to have to start over on the roof. I apologize. I should have checked. >> That's why >> he was applying for an extension.
>> And you understand this just a matter of clarity just to see we got all these litany of things that need to be done. Then what it's somebody calls you up and says, "I'm ready for an inspection to show I'm in compliance." >> Oh, no. You're correct. >> What exactly are we asking him to do?
>> And there's a lot of stuff that needs to be done. So, I appreciate the clarification. >> No, no, no. >> That means that if permits have expired, then the county can deem it unsafe. >> Yes, they can. >> It was. >> So, what happened was when we spoke to the contractor, they had moved it out to
I want to believe it was August, but he did state when Mr. Bart spoke to him that if he basically didn't get his reimbursement of funds, he was going to pull the uh permit. So, with that being pulled, I will again um I I do want to ask the interim uh Mr. Shaw what happened when he went to the county, but
now that it's been pulled and went back to the expiration date of April, um there is no reason why it should not be posted and deemed unsafe by the county. >> All right. Decorative elements, paint deterioration, non-functional elements really don't require a permit.
It's the structural elements that >> That's correct, sir. >> All right. Anything else? >> Uh, no, sir. That is uh my case. >> I am now going to attempt to fashion a statement as to how we're going to deal with this.
Last call for anyone representing in mobileria diata LLC. Con seeing a hearing of one and find that due process has been satisfied by the uh submission of a certified letter to the official owner and address of
record uh regarding the allegations and the times of this hearing and finding that in the absence of uh having that certified letter received the posting of the property in courts with state statute with an affidavit of service included in the record. We're going to find that there's substantial
incompetent evidence to find violations of several sections of the city code, specifically 30-168 regarding minimum standards for maintenance due to blight or blight influence or blighting factors on the structure located at 314 Emistry.
Uh section 30-169, building fronts and sides of budding streets or public areas, specifically rotten and weakened wood, deteriorated structure and structural elements, paint deterioration, and non-functional elements. The issues appear to be primarily those of support structures
for the seconds story um porch which appear to be uh rotted, displaced, missing uh and unable to successfully support the structure is evidenced by the fact that contractors who began work on the project have basically erected a
single 2x4s to try to hold up the roof. uh including placing one of the 2x4s in the middle of the pedestrian stairway to the front of the house on a piece of particle board. There appears to be evidence that the u some of the brick um
fascia facade is starting to uh crack and that the porch is starting to shift. um mainly due to the columns uh being displaced, but nonetheless requiring significant amount of rebuilding in order to secure the um the in structural
integrity of the porches on the front and the porches at the back of the house. As to the hazard to pedestrians, uh that's the 30-176. The house is very close to the public sidewalk. is there's concern that the um
poorly supported uh structural features could pose a hazard to pedestrians on the sidewalk. There's also a 2x4 blocking the access to the house up the front steps. With regard to 20 3213, uh there are windows which are unsecured
and the back door is not secured. Um that needs to be repaired and and secured. 3215 again um forclosed bladder or security this is simply a registration procedure is that correct
and then 30-32A prohibited conditions and public nuisance uh this is overgrown grass non man-made materials in the yard u the roofing condition that is there is no roof tile on the roof simply exposed
um underllayment and that the tarp covering for the roof has since blown off now draped over the house in various directions. All right. As to those matter which require a permit and we're talking about the roof and the
structural items. The compliance is going to require a good faith bonafide application and u a acceptance of an application for a
permit to fix the structural um areas. as to the the decorative items, as to the landscaping, as to the unsecured windows, back doors, and so forth. Um,
those items do not require a permit. >> Um, the roof we have discovered had a permit, but it's expired. So, basically, they're in the they're in the category of having to make a good faith effort to acquire a permit. As to those areas
which which require a permit, compliance is going to consist of a good faith bonafide effort to apply for the permit with the proper authorities within 10 days. As to the areas which do not require a permit, compliance must be completed within 10 days. And I'm
talking about securing the property, the windows, doors, the grass, um, and then other areas which pose an immediate threat to passers by. uh in the neighborhood
and the registration with orange data. Did I leave anything out? All right. The 10 days uh will end of the end of business on June 26, 2026.
In the event of non-compliance fine of how many we're charging them 25 >> 250. >> Well, but he's breaking it up into violations. >> Well, here's the thing. How do you calculate? You might get partial
compliance. So you had you said you had 12 different violations and 12 * 25 is what? uh 250 300 >> 250 and
10 * 25 is 250 and two more is >> that without >> and in terms of >> 250 >> for violation. How does that read? 50.
>> Hold on. I don't want to. >> No, you're um deprived of everything that we are entitled to. 250 per day for a first violation. >> A violation. How many violations do you
have? Got 12. >> And shall not exceed 500 per day for a repeat violation. >> Is that the totality or a violation? Because in the past we've been calculating 25 bucks for each violation.
So now you're telling me we're not going to do that. We're just going to have a lump sum. And based on is there a maximum you could charge them in totality. So if you come up with a 100 violations, you can only charge them 250 bucks $1,000 per day per violation. Yeah.
Um I I am comfortable with the 250 per day per violation. >> Yeah, it's I'm fine with that. You want to get their attention. >> And and it it's an interesting word
that's word. Trust me, I've had this issue in other jurisdictions as to how do you want to do this? And in the past here, I've been doing this for like a decade. In the past here, we've been basically saying each violation got a current. And the way the statute reads, it says per violation. And there's more
than one >> a lot. >> 3,000,000. >> 3,000 12 times. >> That So the per day is >> 3,000. Yeah, that's what we're asking. >> Okay.
All right, we'll do that. All right, can we take a short break? It's 2:56. into case 2026 076 with regard to the fines that have been levied. State statute allows a fine for count or city
of this size and a county of this size not to exceed $250 per violation per day. Uh there are 12 violations that have been cited in this case. The criteria in the statute that govern the
um amount of violations deal with the means necessary to get the attention basically of the property owners to see if we can get some kind of compliance out of them. especially if there's a history of non-compliance or scoff law or uh lack of communication or unwillingness to to cooperate in some
way. I think the evidence that's been presented shows that there's been a a consistent pattern over a period of time of the unwillingness, inability uh with any rate without result of the property owners trying to address the
issues that have been have presented and they continue and have now presented not only um um visual uh blight and disparagement of the neighborhood but also physical
danger to the neighborhood and something needs to be done. Uh this is not a case where the city actually wants the money. The city wants compliance and uh I think it's appropriate based on this interpretation of the statute to take that step. Reminder that appeals of this decision
must be made within 30 days. That will be on July 17th of 2026. And be sure the letter goes out promptly with regard to that. All right, let's go now to case 2025132.
Uh, property located at 322 Madison Street, Palatka 32177. Owner of record is Herbert S. Delaney and Tracy Leadford or either Herbert S. Delaney or Tracy Leadford present.
Seeing and hearing no one. Um, Mr. B told you this is a case of second impression. I understand we're looking for a lean. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. Tell me about it. >> Uh Harold Bartelli City Black Coke compliance office. This is reference case 2025132 at a property located at 322 Madison
Street, Black, Florida. Uh initially the first uh violations was observed 8:14 to 25. Um the first hearing was on 246. Um
property was posted on 6326. Um site was posted complex posted and first a notice of hearing mail out on 6326. I have not received any green cards back or any contact with these individuals
since. >> Well, they came back unsigned. >> Uh I haven't got nothing back. >> I got a couple in the record. Are those previous? >> Yes, sir. TM got one back for this hearing, >> correct? Not okay. >> Um the the folks that were in in though
do not live here in Florida. I believe they went in North Carolina, I want to say. Uh they were down in February. I spoke to them in February. Were they having other property? Uh they did do some uh they did do some uh corrections on this. This house had other issues. They
>> did they appear at the first hearing? >> No, sir. >> They did not. um a letter of >> Did they indicate any willingness to repair any of this? >> Uh there was some issues were repaired. Yes, sir. >> Okay. >> From the initial uh from the initial
magistrate hearing. >> Did it any of the repairs resolve any of the violations? >> Yes, sir. >> So, you took that into account? Yes, sir. >> Tabulating how much is due? Yes, sir. >> Okay. You're going to regail me with that, I'm sure. >> Yes. there they're those uh whatever date they were stopped those fines and
fees were stopped at that date of each one. >> All right. >> Correction of each violation as >> you've been you've you've contacted them you posted the property you've been in touch with the owners. Have you been in touch with them since you posted for this hearing? >> No, sir. >> All right. But you have you been in touch with them since the last the first hearing?
>> No, sir. >> Okay. So, it was before the first hearing? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. And that was >> the first hearing was uh >> June 3rd, >> February. No, I'm sorry. February 4th. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay.
>> All right. You've got your due process. All the documents that are in the in the record are true incorrect copies of the official documents of the city of Palcoa. Correct. >> Yes, sir. >> And you've have cited two sections of the code. 30-169A building fronts and sides of budding
streets of public areas deteriorating paint and 30215 for closed blight unsecured abandoned structure registration. That's the orange data registration. >> All right. So, basically it's a registration issue. >> Yes, sir. >> So, basically, they just needed to paint
the house and register the house. >> Yes, sir. As of now. Yes. >> Okay. If they painted the house, would they still need to register the house? >> Yes, sir. Because they there's nobody occupying the residence and it still would be considered. >> So, everybody who doesn't occupy your residence needs to register the house.
>> Yes, sir. >> Really? Okay. And the reason before that is for emergency service reasons. So if something were to happen at that piece of property, um you would if you don't live in the state, you can say, "Hey, my friend, this person's responsible, call them or somebody breaks into the house,
alarm goes off, they have >> agent." >> So it's for emergency services and safety reasons, >> right? >> All right. You have the photograph to show me regarding the violation. >> Yes, sir. >> And did you personally take the photographs? >> Yes, sir. I did. >> And do they accurately represent the condition of the property and date in which you took something? >> Yes, sir. They do.
>> All right. Regail me. Uh first picture uh is Bravo one and Bravo 2. Uh the top picture was taken on uh December 15th of 2025. Um showing the deteriorating paint on the side of the structure. This would
be the left side of the house. Um and the second the picture down below was taken on June 3rd of this year. Uh there's no been no work done on that side of the house as far with the paint scraping. You'd see it deteriorating and
and flaking off. >> All right. And this was a 10% issue. >> Yes, sir. It's a 10% of the whole building. >> And there was a finding of 10 more than 10% in the first hearing. >> Yes, sir. >> And nothing's been done since the date of the first hearing. >> Correct. >> And that's and it's to
>> their second. >> Both of them are B1's. Correct. >> Uh B2, uh you see where there's been some white wood. So, there was an issue in the first initially where there was some rotten and weakened wood. You can see where they did go in and replace that wood. Uh there's still areas where
that need to be painted. Um that's what arrows were pointing to. Um on the picture on the top picture was taken November 12th. You can see the wood down the bottom where they replaced it. And down the bottom picture down below is June 3rd. You can see where they would came back and fixed the bottom wood.
They painted it. uh I guess sealed it more or less but um and painted the top structure there. Um so it's as if they were to prepping it to be painted all but they have not finished the whole structure yet. >> So basically they need to repaint it and they haven't done it.
>> Yes, sir. >> So did we did we cons take the um painting and the wood replacement all as one violation? >> No, the wood was separate and and a deteriorating. >> Okay. So there were two violations. Yes, sir. >> They were they were charged 50 bucks a day. $25 a day, sir.
>> For each violation? >> Yes. For each violation. >> Okay. >> Uh initially, I think >> there was actually three. One was the registration. >> Um initial hearing, uh there was initially four three violations. All right. Initial
>> one was the registration, one was the paint, one was the missing wood. >> Yes, sir. >> The missing wood's been repaired. >> Yes, sir. >> So, we now have two left. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Any more photographs? Um and the Bravo 3 is just a picture of the structure. Um it's not registered with
orange data. So basically it's have been registered with orange data. >> Basically they need to repaint the house to bring it into a consistent color. >> Equal and consistent color. Yes, sir. >> And register the property >> with orange d. Yes sir. >> Correct. So two of the violations continue. >> Yes sir.
>> And when was the wood replacement resolved? I do not have the date that it was corrected uh in front of me. >> Well, you had to calculate the fine. I was just curious. >> Yes, sir. Um I don't I'm not sure what day it stopped. It was it was it was
originally $75 a day. Whenever the the wood was corrected, I stopped the fine. So, it was only been $50 a day since. And I don't have that information in front of me at this time. >> All right. Well, you have a total. >> Yes, sir. I do have a total. >> Well, okay. Just >> the total included. >> Just so you know, get figuring how you got to the total might be important, but
>> Yeah. Well, the date where I figured out it's the date where the wood was replaced and replaced that those fines date. Yes, sir. >> So, what's the total amount of fines that have accured to this point? >> Uh, total amount of fines at this time is $5,250. >> All right. And the county is looking for
an order to allow authorize a lean being placed on the property in accordance with state statute. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. Anyone here who is a representative or or Herbert S. Delaney or Tracy Leadford present or anyone representing either of them.
Seeing and hearing of one and find that two process have been satisfied by the attempt to lo to notify the owners through um certified mail as required by Florida statutes. uh and that be proving unsuccessful uh by posting of the property also in
accordance with Florida statute with a notice of uh affidavit of service in um included in the record. Um, evidence, substantial incompetent evidence exists to show continuing violations of section 30-169A of the city code regarding building
fronts and sides of buzzing streets or public areas that more than 10% of the uh surface area of that property uh has deteriorating paint. That is paint that's of an inconsistent color with the rest of the property and that has not been addressed. A previous violation
regarding missing uh wood on the front of the house has been repaired and the fines have stopped as a result of that uh compliance. Section 30-215 however remains an open issue and that there's been no registration uh for the
foreclosed blight or unsecured or abandoned structure. It's just a registration if it's not occupied. >> Yes, sir. But it doesn't have to be forclosed, blighted, unsecured, or abandoned, just not occupied.
What does that say? Right. If it's an empty piece of property and nobody's living in it and it has no violations, they still have to register it with the city through Orange Data so that we know the property so we can have the the emergency information
on those properties. Well, just on the same page, after any owner of real property allows his or her property to become blighted, unsecured, or bandicked, you have to register. Now, we must have found that one of
those has happened at the time. Um, >> so under 30-215 of vacant properties that need to be registered are vacant structures and foreclosed, lighted, unsecured, or
abandoned structures. >> Okay. It's it's curious in the in the red part it talks about vacant slashabandon but in the in the first section it doesn't talk about vacant it just leaves it out. So the way this says an owner mortgage ease presumed to have knowledge that a property's vacant
abandoned blighted or unsecured after patch for 30 days condition occurs or seem to notice whichever occurs first. So the position was vacant is enough. It's just a you headings aren't supposed
to be dispositive, but it says forclosed, bled, unsecured, or abandoned. But then they got that vacant in this one section. >> Vacant is enough. Any one of those is enough to try registration. >> All right.
>> All right. Based on all of that, we're going to find it appropriate to enter an order uh authorizing the city to place an official lean on the property. Total amount of the lean is $5,250. Um fine shall continue to acrue at $25 per
day per un uh >> unresolved violation >> unsatisfied violation until satisfaction or compliance. That's just some unusual wording in in how it's it deals with it because you
understand the consideration is and we're done with that case as far as the record's concerned. But the the consideration is any vacant property would need to be registered. >> That's why I'm curious what in the world does that mean in this town?
>> What does >> No, it said vacant. Well, and now don't get me don't go crossways on this one. >> I understand it. >> When you read this thing, >> it's the vacant slashabandon there, but
not here or there. I'm like, okay. Down here, it talks about the owner of an abandoned vacant real property. What's a makes? How do you know it's abandoned? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go with God. All right. Final case is
going to be case number 20 2025088. Property located at 1890 Palma Thea Street, Palatka, 32177. Owner of record Timothy Wester. Is Timothy Westerester or anyone representing Timothy Wester present today? Seeing and hearing no
one. Mr. Bartelli. >> Yes sir. Um city city plaque co compliance reference case 2025 088 uh 18/19 pulmaia street in pla florida. Um this is the second hearing. Um there are
three violations. Violation 30-32 alpha 10 public conditions nuisance uh roof and disrepair and 30-169 Bravo building fronts sightings burning public streets rotten and weakened wood and section 30-215 for unregistered
property. Um notice of hearing was sent out on 6326. Uh site was posted on 6326. Um, annex was posted on 6326. I have not received any green card back or have heard
anything back from the anybody. >> What is this guy's address? I see >> 1890 Palomia which is the subject property. It's you under Maril Lake Drive interlocking. >> Yes, sir. From the first hearing uh made he apparently when I posted a property
he drove by and found it and called me and I got his address from there and I sent all the correspondents to that address. Both addresses. I sent them both. >> And this was for the first hearing. >> Both hearings. Yes. >> Both hearing. >> Yes, sir. >> And did he talk to you about compliance? And >> he talked to me on the first hearing
stating that the place is going into foreclosure and is in they're going to courts with the banks. >> And that was uh >> March. >> June a year ago. No, >> June of this year. >> June of this year. Okay. When Okay.
When's the first hearing? Uh >> 1626. January of this year. >> Okay. But you know, have you Nick is there any record of foreclosure? >> Uh just from him calling me and his
attorney called me and said it's going to the bank and foreclosure and they were doing whatever they do in the court system and I have not heard anything back from them since anybody. >> All right. The city originally alleged three violations. 30-32A10
prohibited conditions and public nuisances uh dealing with um broking or missing building components, doors, windows, roofing materials, sighting, etc. Uh 30-169B, building fronts and sides of budding
public streets or areas. And 30-215 for closed, blind, unsecured, abandoned structure registration. All right. Do you have some photo and do you have some photographs for me? >> Yes, sir. >> Did you take the photograph? >> Yes, sir. >> Do they actually represent the condition of property date in which you took them?
>> Yes, sir. >> All right. Please proceed. >> Uh uh pictures photo one Bravo. Uh the upper photo was taken on September 3rd, 25 shows the roofing uh referencing 30-3210 or ALF A10 roof and disrepair.
As you can see, the blue tarp, the hole in it. Um, the picture down below was taken on June 3rd of this year. As you can see, the hole has gotten bigger because we've been getting quite some good rain here in the afternoon. So, I'm assuming it's slowly wearing on that
roof and it's getting bigger. >> Okay. >> U Bravo. The upper picture is taken on September 3rd of 2025. The lower picture was taken on June 3rd, 26. um is
referencing 30-169 Bravo rotten interior and wood. Uh the arrow was pointing to the sophet that's underneath the the ridge of the roof. It's basically it's rotted and falling down and falling. >> Were these conditions that were found to be violations in the original hearing? >> Yes, sir.
>> And they've been unchanged since today? >> Yes, sir. >> And there's been no registration? >> No, sir. and picture. >> So we had basically that the two violations are basically about the condition of the roof. >> Yes sir.
>> So one situation two violations. >> Yes sir. >> One being >> the hole in the roof. >> Hole in the roof. And second the >> the wood rot the roof. >> All right. And then the registration. >> Yes sir. >> What the total amount of fines for the
three violations now total $8,700. Yes, sir. As of today, $8,700. >> Right. Last call for Timothy Westerester. Anyone representing Timothy Wester finding due process have been satisfied by the sending of a certified letter containing the notice of the
hearing and the notice of the purpose of the hearing and the violations. Finding in the absence of a evidence of the owner having uh received that letter uh the posting of the property in accordance with state statute uh with an affidavit of service included in the
record. The official address and record were those maintained by the property appraiser as well as one additional address uh discovered by the code enforcement officer uh and the code enforcement officer attempted to contact the owner at both addresses but proved unsuccessful. There's statistical
incompetent evidence to confine the continued violations of section 30-32A10 regarding prohibited conditions and public nuisances and 30-169B building fronts inside the budding streets and public areas due to the condition of the roof the holes in the roof with tarp covering the holes as
well as I guess the front appearance of the roof. And then a continued violation of 30-215 for failure to register a vacant abandoned or open unsecured structure. This one's um I'm satisfied is blighted, unsecured or abandoned. May
well be foreclosed from what you have told me with regard to that. Well, in an order finding the violations uh continued and authorizing the city to uh record an official lean with the amount of fines placed on the property on the public records of Putnham County. Fine
shall continue to acrue at the rate of $25 per violation per day until satisfaction or compliant. There being no further business on our agenda, we shall conclude today's proceedings at 3:19.