We get proper advice. Double double confirmation from our attorneys. Attorney, please go ahead. We're missing one. Yeah. Yeah. Please arrest. She's on her way.
I had a meeting. Um, we have a motion to end the 20 minute recess and come back to our regular session. I have a motion, please. Thank you for the participation, but I can't figure out who did first and second. Second first one. Thank you, ladies.
First, all in favor? Hi. Go ahead, counselor. Okay. Under New Jersey statute section 40A col 60-5E for a six member council, there are four
affirmative votes needed to carry uh and to pass uh this the the ordinances and we're talking about ordinance 2025-18 and 2025-9. It's my opinion that because by a tie
vote. The mayor cannot cast a tiebreaking vote. So, what we'll need, and I want to implore the council of the importance of these two uh ordinances in as much as they are required by the court in the bill to remedy action and
the consequences of not passing either or both of these ordinances could be significant on the burrow, as in possible consequences. The possible consequences we could to court number one and and and have to explain to the
judge the reason for the abstension and not voting in favor of the ordinance. And number two, there could be other potential ramifications for this in terms of the impact of this on the balance of the litigation. It's still ongoing. We have not received what's
called a judgment of repost which is when the case is over which means which means the court could impose some type of sanctions. The the court could impose other types of obligations on the bureau which it would be within the the judge's
discretion as to how to uh enforce and what type of remedy to give to these two builders for this. So what I'm going to add and also also I want to add counselor the whole purpose of this exercise is to get our rights back in
order to fulfill the third round and also comply with the fourth round so we get our rights back so we won't have to face the remaining issues coming forward right if we don't if we don't do this properly and protect ourselves as a as a
world one one option that could happen is that due to compl clients, other billy may suit follow. That means another person who could just build three homes in a residential area, build an apartment and say, "Well, screw yourself, council
members and the mayor and forget about your ordinances because it doesn't exist because the judge didn't allow that to happen." Go ahead council. Yeah. And and just to to reiterate, this was the part of the settlement agreement that this council voted to approve. So not passing
either or both of these two ordinances would be a breach of that settlement. So there are there are damages that could flow out of that breach. So, what I'm going to request is that a council
member who voted to abstain, who would like to make a motion to change their vote, please make a motion. Which ordinance 189? Let's deal with the first one. 2025-8.
There's four abstains. Well, no, there were three in the second. So, one of the three Of course their vote on ordinance 18 second meeting.
Yes. Does he have healed that just for yourself because of your prior prior but is accuse yourself if you want, but
what is your opinion? deserve because of the past relationship that we had for our project that now another person is right out of that I did decide. Yeah.
has to guess we frame. We just refuse. Okay. So, we have three FCs um for ordinance 125-18 is by Kim M and Juan Yu. Go ahead. Do either three of those council wish to
make a motion to amend their vote on that order? So you want to make a motion to amend and how would you how would you I believe I should not but recuse myself.
Recuse yourself. Okay. We have a second to that motion. Thank you. Second. Okay. So, now we have two uh Yes. Do either of the two council who abain wish to make a motion to amend
their You know, I just want to go back last month orally introduced with the food, right? We decided to move forward. Now, we made some changes on the packet,
right? The details, right? So last week work session 15 was prepared with all the striking uh details right now 21 wasn't prepared right we were still uh you know based on your talk with the uh
the attorney right there actually preparing the uh packet uh actually 21 was presented on the uh was presented at the last meeting what What happened was at the work session meeting last week.
Um, clerk Jang did not include No, no, no, no, no. Last month, right, we made some change based on the packet, right? It was same duplicate packet 15 and 21 last month. So, we made the change to
bring the correct packet because both packet has a 102 affordable housing number there, right? Correct. So work session we got the uh revised packet of 15 grand with all the striking uh the warnings right with the red mark right
now 21 they're work they were working on the uh packet so we couldn't have the correct packet ready during the work session but I believe it was already provided prior to the work session yeah but didn't change
no the one for 15 changed not 21 21 21 didn't change but there's a warning that has to be changed I can show you right so with that said right the packet wasn't ready on a work session and
we were waiting to obtain the updated packet right now this packet then why would you want to include the packet here today right because the packet wasn't there at the work session now we got the packet knowing the fact there's a change,
right? We got in at the last minute. So, when we're talking about this performance, right? Even you aren't sure if 15 is for uh 102 affordable housing or 33 affordable housing. So, how do we
how do how do you want us to actually afford it on the right information? Will be based upon the priority. Yeah, we we can we can do like I said the the Information regarding the number of
market units and affordable units was provided in an email to the clerk which I asked to circulate to the council and I believe those numbers were provided to the council several weeks ago. But even with the 15, right, the packet that was
provided at the work session is different from what I received today. The numbers that were like two weeks or three weeks ago, those are the numbers. I'm not just talking about the number. What else? I want to council
point. It's not necessarily that this ordinance has any faulty language. The ordinance refers to the redevelopment plan, right? We were getting copies of the plan and there were some changes proposed and we were supposed to receive
the revised plan and council point that we did not receive the plan at the work and it was just provided today. So I apologize. So I so I I propose in order to pass this ordinance, I think it needs
to the council needs to feel comfortable that when it refers to the redevelopment plan, it refers the latest and greatest plan that we approved. Can you I don't know if you could stipulate that
or if you could represent. Yes. That that will be the case because his concern is out. He's saying the details that are underlying this ordinance are not reliable. So how can he pass this ordinance? I think you should make it clear to councilman that the details
underlying this ordinance should be the correct version. Yes. So that passing this ordinance would not subject him to passing some you know plan that he never approved of. So for example 15 PR is different from what we received here
today than the work session. So, are we going to use the work session packet or the uh regular regular because they're both dated May 22? Correct. We are going to use the correct one. The one that has the correct number of
market rate units and the correct number. Is that the latest or the former? The it is it is the latest. Although I reached out to our planner because when I looked at the the he had made a correction to the plans because
It went from section one, two, and then four. It was missing section three. So, he reumbered the sections. When he sent those to me on, I believe Saturday, and then I passed them on uh to our clerk to include his packet. I was just looking
at it now and I think he may have left the number of affordable units as the old number before he corrected it. So the bottom line, the plan that is adopted and that will be included with this ordinance will be
the plan that was passed by the planning board and is the plan that will be and have the correct number of market rate and affordable units which for 21 grand was the correct one that was provided over a month ago. Yeah. But not only
units but the other changes that were proposed by this council and There were no other changes to 21 grand. There's a couple that was changed for 21 grand. No, that was for 15 grand. Well, the only one that I know that stands out is three different times the council want
the word if applicable added. Right. That was that was that was for 15, right? That that was Yeah. The point is Yeah. Let the redevelopment plan that's referenced in the ordinance be the latest and greatest draft that this would you like to get the planner on the
phone now? No, I'm saying that should be on record so that the council can vote with that in mind. I thought that is that is his concern. The details on why the ordinance are changing. So I thought the uh the plan for 15 grand that we received during the work session with
all the strike uh striking out, right? I thought this was fine. Am I wrong? Well, no because because this is just a red line so you could see the the changes that correct. So the changes that were made will then be incorporated into the into the plan
itself. Correct. But but it actually went back the draft that we got is not the revised version, right? You know, Mike Corker may have made some changes to the prior
saying we need some better. All right. So what what are you saying? She's asking, can we rely on the records that was set up before this most recent uh version of it? Okay, here's what we
will do. I will ask Mike Walker and I will go I will speak to him. I will have him generate and send the final plan which I will circulate to the council for approval before we publish the the ordinance assuming that it passes. Yeah.
But I'm saying this ordinance that we're passing should be referring to what you're just saying. She's being very clear. Because we found errors with the numbers and the wording, right? The the prior records uh is one that we will we will
audit. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. Could you say that on record? Yes. the the plan that is adopted for both 2025-18 and 2025-9 will reflect the correct plan, the terms that you've already seen and the terms
that were approved by the planning board. There you go. Is that sufficient? By the planning council, we had a choice. Sorry. Sorry about that. And this this should have been you know the C council scar
did apologize. This shouldn't happen again. It's very big confusion. Yeah. I mean mayor I mean with all respect we're actually the governing body here today right now and these days in the future
we're making a actually uh a decision that are actually affecting the future of policies part. Agreed. We want to be very uh meticulous, right? So we can make the correct decisions for the uh the resident here. So we represent the
uh resident. So we have a right to actually know the correct details. Absolutely. So with that, I'll make a motion. I'll second. So it's just the FC people. So Christie, one um would you like to change your
your FC to Can you please read the resolution again that we need to correct? Just read the resolution again and then you're going to add the ordinance and you're going to you're going to you're
going to add them. It's going to reflect what exact information was provided for the planning board to be approved. Is that what you want? That's what I do for so for 21 grand. The details that you guys are talking
about, right? I'm trying to be very impartial in my own humble opinion. the numbers of affordable units that was different some warnings that were different it is concern however I feel I mean the cow the attorney will well will
let me know if I'm correct but these are minuscule errors I don't like seeing them um this should not happen again no copy and paste without reviewing it but um I believe this is minuscule and if
Scott, if you could just add that stipulation that this was the numbers from our point. Yeah, but the whole number wasn't the point. The point is that this was brought to the attention of the governing body too late and and not only that the prep preparation was
not complete properly. So can we move forward? Can we move forward by saying that we're going to stick with the planning board? Yes, we are going to adopt only what the planning board has adopted. All right. Now, having said that, council council uh one you coun
council me would you willing to change your vote from abstaining to something else? Uh should I make a motion? Yes. No. Well, no, this is not a motion. It's like asking you you three was Yeah, sure. I I guess on the uh No, you you
changing he made a motion and council one you seconded. No, you asked about three two different council members. Three first one there's a conflict. So you heard that story. You asked these questions. Three people who abstained. Three council members who abstained. Do
you want to change your position? Well, no. I need a motion. Yeah. To request the change first. Okay. That's what I'm saying. So, I'll make a motion to request change my vote on our ordinance 2025-8.
Second. I'll second. All in favor? I mean, no, this is this is a roll call. We have to do the roll call again for 2025-8. Council Kim. Kim said yes.
Yes. Council me. Yes. Council. Yes. Council voted last time. He's asking what he voted last time. I mean, it's so confusing.
What was his record on council? You were yes. 2020. He said yes. So it's confirmed. We have majority votes. We have four votes. Majority vote. Yes. Okay. So now we have a five except the council came because
he made he said yes but I meant that's what you meant. Thank you. Just to be sure you have a yes. Let's go to the second one. Go ahead. For ordinance 2025-9. Do either of the three
wish to make a motion to change their council me [Music] and I have a motion. I make a motion to change the vote for 2025-9.
Thank you. I have a second. Second. Thank you. Roll call. Okay, he just council. Yes. Council me. Yes. Council, yes. Council, yes. Council, yes. Okay. Order 2025 19
was passed with five votes. Yes. Yes. Thank you very much. Thank you, council members. Thank you very much for your consideration. All right. Now, can we go back now? Where are we? We did the council report. BA report. Yes, ma'am. Just quickly
describing the opening for the building. Yay. 47 parking lots. Green parking lot with the TV station. EV station with LED solar panel uh lights.
and hopefully somewhere down the road happen. The second thing is today and the last couple weeks it's been very frustrating for people trying to reach the pool as well as the people who work here in the building because the cool phone is not
working and apparently what it was described to me has to do with our new phone system. The voice back here to the wall is not working yet due to issues with the carrier. I have not found out who that
carrier is yet. The county is working on it. It's their system. And it just seems to me that when way back when when this was already looked at the Maybe they didn't spend the time that they should have been to find out
obviously premises. So they're working very hard to get as a new phone system, but um what I do because they showed it to me today when I was down here, if you do the
search for sex club on Google, um it gets you a lot of information. So, she can change or put a message on that, but because the phones are not working at this time, please send a Google message if you want to contact us and they will
respond to the Google message. So, she's tonight maybe by tomorrow because we don't know if the folks are going to be working in two weeks I hope more information tomorrow but apparently whatever the network is that the boys
come back here so they do have computer service there the emails are working there emails are working at the DPW now finally but the phone is all
right attorney report. No. All right. Before I move to the police department, I think we're finally start to see some fruition of the progress that has been made. We're very close to a lot of um big packets that be prepared. First,
second, and fourth street. Um John was there, councilman was there, Christy Wong was there. We're really tending to the needs of the people. they survive with flooding that's happening for years without one side having uh drain uh the
drain. That's that's that's irresponsible. So, we're working on that too with the repavement. Um the the burl burl uh administrator knows about fifth street, but because we spend a lot of money on roads, we're going to try to move that for the next year. We also
have commercial. one half of the commercial going to the Route 46 has been badly badly demol damaged for many many years. That's being addressed. Po Belleview parking is coming into fruition. And also the $ 1.4 million
grant that we're working on to revitalize and make uh Broad Avenue from Central to even all the way to Henry Street make it so that it will look like uh something that we see the main streets of Fort Lee. We also have the police reforming accreditation. We're
also uh preparing to um um um well the police will talk about that too. So we are we are in the works. I I then also we're in the works of as you know we finally got our uh the the parking meter that everybody was complaining about thanks to the police uh police
department and also the the committee worked really hard to find the best candidate. I agree with that choice and And also we are in the process of trying to uh actually we we approved just we approved the check-in and checkout system for the employees guys we are
moving it just I realized even with you know even though I'm the mayor who was not influenced by somebody or anybody anymore I start to realize the government system is slow but I'm very happy that this council members care and that that you know always reminds the
employees that things that needs to be addressed And this is how we're going to move forward. And by the end of this year, um, I'm also working on the LED solar panel, street lights that I've been talking about. It's funded. I have the products. I'm going to give it to
Roberto. We're going to hit about 25 to 30 locations that's dark. And the PSG will cost an arm and a leg to create another street light there. That will be all accomplished this year. And we also have DPW working on which he should be
working on the spray painting of Broad Avenue, right? You say we didn't do that yet. Power washing power washing DBW. So we are we're on the works. Um so I'm very happy. I want to recommend again council members there are faults of the
administration employees. I'm not going to deny that. I'm with you on that. However, at the same time we have to work together. We have to fill fill in the issues that we have on both sides of the party. I'm hoping and hope I'm praying and requesting that the council members review their packet and come to
us, ask questions during the um one week after we receive the um the the work session so we don't have to open this up in the regular session. and for the governing body who are in charge of all this stuff, whether it's the BA or the
clerk or the attorney. I hope you guys don't make these kind of mistakes to follow down this process. This was a very important process. I'm very thankful that council members decided to give us an opportunity because if we didn't pass, we'd be in major trouble
and someone's got to blame for it and it's definitely not the governing body. All right. Thank you very much. Um, please report. Happy birthday. Happy birthday.