Thank you. Second roll call. Council him. Yes. Council Lee. Yes. Council me. Yes. Council. Yes. Council. Yes. The ordinance 2025-23 amending. Ordinance 2025-5
establishment of salary for year 2025 was introduced and the pass on the first meeting and available meeting of the council held on June 23rd 2025 and order published in accordance to the law said ordinance will be considered for first meeting and adoption at a meeting held
on July 28 2025 at 6 p.m. in the council chamber and which kind of persons interested may obser or against the passage of the set ordinance. A copy of ordinance will be posted on the board hall and will be available at the office of Thank you for clerk. Now I have a
motion to close and open to the public to discuss with the public ordinance 2025-21 all the way to 2025-23. We have a motion. Thank you. I have a second. All in favor? I public, you have three minutes
to discuss about ordinance 2025-21 to uh ordinance 2025-23. You actually I'm going to allow three minutes for each ordinance because there's where we're putting in three ordinances together. So, any questions?
Great. Motion to close and open back to the regular session. Thank you, Kim. We have a second. Second. Thank you. All in favor? I Great. Let's move to our consent agenda.
Agenda resolution 2025-18 and resolution 2025- 189 was passed at the session. I appreciate the support of the council. Thank you. So, we will go with the discussion item number. Consent agenda
resolution 2025 is 192 resolution 2025 is 225. Right. So all consent just to be sure was passed 1881 189 the work session on the request of the attorney and me. Uh thank you very much for that. That's why we provided the scholarships
just in time. Um any questions about consent agenda 190 all 225. I'm sorry 225. Yes. Go ahead. I'd like to take a couple of the consent agend
205 206 207 208 28 219 221 219 219 221 225 221
So we got 219 then we got two What's that 219 going from 218 219 221 225 221 and 225 What would be the reason to move move to
the consent agenda? questions. Question here. I mean, the only thing is if you move them to the consent agenda, then we need to vote on each one individually and we're going to be here for
So, right now in the consent agenda, you can ask any questions about the consent agenda. Please go ahead. Let's start with 195. 196, I'm sorry, 196. We wereing special planning board attorney
and I believe that uh appointment is and back for $30,000. Correct. And this is for the planning
board. Correct. Okay. We have a question. My question with that is you're also hiring I believe. It's all right. I had there at least a work session when we have two
hours tonight. 221 you'reing the same law firm in Holland correct for $25,000. This from what I'm reading is that This
would be the third attorney that the the borrower has hired to investigate the police trails. We already spent over a million dollars on on the police trails, three attorneys. How much money we where are we getting all this money? So your
question is where are we getting the money or is it your question is why are we having so many attorneys? Yeah. And why why the same attorney? The thing is this guy, this attorney, this is the third attorney saying
the first attorney we brought in started to do the work and then disappeared for he disappeared. He was too busy to to undertake the investigation. I've never seen an attorney do that.
Well, it was very difficult if not possible to get a hold of him. So then we brought in another firm to And they ran into they ran into a logistical hurdle which requires another firm just to finish it up. It's almost done. This is still paying a lot. We're paying
a lot of money. This is a million dollars over that we we've spent so far. Correct. The bottom of why those decisions were made. Okay. Where are we getting the money from? Well, the same the same place we would have paid the firm that was that just resigned from
being the council for Israel investigation. We would have paid them, but now we're just going to pay it over. So, we just taking it out of the thin air. Where are we getting the money? Well, you can ask the finance. Okay. But you also ask
the question for 25,000 for that, 30,000 on the other one. Um sir, sir, let's not go all over the place with the resolutions. If you're done with 195, let's move forward. But um your concerns about two
questions. One of them just answered. It's because a couple of the prior attorneys decided not to take it. Um the other question was financial. That's 196 was for the planning board attorney. It was uh 221. That's that's for the
Right. So the special planning board attorney, what is your question? That they would be hired they're both the same. Wait, it's very confusing because you're talking about 196, sir, but you start talking about the trailer
attorney back, you know, back down in one 221. So your question about 196 is what, sir? You you the C the CFO will answer. Make sure that Roberto I'll ask Robera to tell ask the CFO to call you directly if it must and where the fund
is going. Secondly, where we're getting from too. Well, yeah, that's perfectly fine. What will explain that to you? But having said that, what is there any other questions about that? No. Okay, good. Because the attorney answer the other question. Let's move down to 2011.
20100. And maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. But the streets, he's he's going to the streets. What is this for? Parking spaces or
Good name. question. Hi Roberto. Sorry. What are we on? The proposal for first, second, fourth, and island. Could you explain to Councilman Bri what Fenoni will be doing and what the project is? Um, well, one of them includes paving
second and fourth street for correcting drainage issues. First street, I think they part of that street at one time finishing what they didn't do. Second and fourth, um, There were major u sanitary sewer issues
and storm drain issues. There aren't any on certain parts of the road. So they're doing that improvement because people have been getting flooding on the west side of the street on the coming down hills of the street west side of
the street. And when we inspected it with the engineer they didn't understand how it had done previously. There's there's no storm ch on the right side. Council m was there. I was there. Roberto was there. Christine W was there. One half of the street doesn't
have a storm. No wonder the duplexes are getting flooded and it's paving issue. I'm not that high is the last part of from 400 to 500
area. our our goal and I'm going to disclose to you you don't go and you never heard of it is that it was my my initiative to get the support from the governor body that um that we should line the most
closest adjacent uh residential streets near broad. We're talking about exactly Highland and First Street. And first we want to line the uh residential street uh with with parking space lines. And also John M police came in and stated that you know what while we're doing
this let's just make sure that everything else is in compliance with the fire code and the building and the traffic code. And then the new uh and then the new the old uh engineer brought in a drawing and that was compared with
uh the our Penoni engineer and they they revamped it. So they make sure that yellow lanes are proper. There are a lot of areas where the yellow lanes on the corner should be longer. That prevents accidents in those areas including also putting uh parking spaces. So you know
residents want to park here and they want to park like this right councing spaces. So what we try to do is to draw lines like that in the boxes so we could be all nice and organized. And and right now I'm in the process. I did let some of the council members know plans to
make that place into a parking for broad avenue when the residents are not there just like Jersey City, just like Hoboken areas that they use that is congested and we don't have enough parking space for the commerce. I thought it was a very good way to, you know, come down one block from Broad Avenue, you'll get
more pocket spaces just like other towns. And when the residents coming back, you know, that will be totally uh restricted uh to the public uh to to the commerce, but will be only for the residents. Okay. Speaking about the parking spaces that you're saying we'll
start with first going put parking spaces from central first. No, sir. No, sir. Not first. It's going to be Highland first and then and then we're not even done. The reason why we need to repay the 400 500 range of Highland
repaving is because it was recommended by the engineer that we cannot paint lines because they need they need to repay that 400 400 500 area. After we're done, I'm hoping that I could get the support from the governing body to
create a kiosk parking kiosk. So the lack of parking space while we're trying to make more parking space in Broad Avenue gets alleviated and the and then the residents will enjoy the parking space when they come back cuz it won't be public parking
anymore. It be more of a residential parking. But with parking you're saying you're going from but you're saying you're not putting any parking spaces on first street? Not right now. What we're doing is repaving right now. just repay the other for eventually you're looking
forward to do something. I'm hoping to get your consent because it it works out. I spoke with the engineers. Everybody agrees is a good way to make sure it's more safe on residenties and also that we save a lot of street parking. Fascinating. I I can follow
that. But what I don't follow is from Central Boulevard to Esso Boulevard. Why doesn't it go from bringing up to that's still broad council me? If I can, we we've been um
working to try to make our council meetings um a little bit more expeditious. One of the things that we we do is we always have a work session meeting which we had last week. These items were all on the agenda that was sent out the Friday before last Monday's agenda
meeting. Uh I You were here at No, you wasn't. Oh, no. You weren't at the work session. Yes, I was. You were. No, you were. Yes, I was. Well, I I would ask not just you, but all council people. It just seems like there's a lot of questions that wait until the night of
the meeting, and I don't think that's fair to the public. Well, okay. And I agree with you what you're saying, but the last council meeting we were here, we're here till 10:30. The council meeting before that, we were here till 10:00. Oh, why? Now, not because of me.
Really? Yeah. Really? Because you were talking. You now when I ask you questions, not to ask questions. Sir, you couldn't have had enough time. There's just You just waited the last moment. I I have no idea. Go ahead. What we're trying to do is we're trying to
set up procedures. We're trying to set up procedures the way you want to set up the procedures. When a councilman has a question, you don't want to do it because evidently you may be wanting to go somewhere tonight. You just complain. You just complain
7:00. You just complain about being late. So what is your complaint, sir? What is your what is your issue right now? If you want to stay at 10:00, that's fine. But like the counselor said, it will be a disservice to us. We have to
go home and the public have to go home. So, if these questions were asked before the regular session, which we've been repeating to all the council members, you would have seen until 10:00, 11:00. Our business administrator is here every day. Our finance is department is here
every day. These questions and I think you you've raised questions on you said about 12 different resolutions. I'm not my prerogative to ask questions. but you're complaining that we're leaving late and you're making it
happen. So sir, if you want to do this, if you want to go all the way, you are the leader. Let's stay until 10:00. Go for it. Sir, what else do you have on question 201 members to ask these questions before we
get here? Why are we all grandstanding and making everybody's life miserable? I think you're grandstanding. I'm the mayor. I have I am the conductor of this meeting, not you, sir. You don't have to attack me. You don't have to attack me. You didn't ask questions before and now you
ask at the last moment. Why are you doing that? Because I studied you feel like it. I studied it because you you studied it at the last [Music] during the one week that we have after the work session. Sir, you couldn't. You
have to wait until Monday to bring in about 10 resolutions that you're going to ask questions. It's your prerogative. But make a decision. Do you want to stay here until 10:00 or do you want to stay here faster? Your choice. Please go
ahead with 2011. Any more questions? You have You have six more to go. No. Thank you. Any more questions concerning the consent agendas? I have a question. Yes, go ahead. 191 1914
employees. Is there any increase in terms of the salary from last year or not? I couldn't you know from here I I understand. Okay. So we had in in at the
work session meeting counciloman I believe you raised some some questions about the Hey, it may have been the last week's meeting now, but it was both. But the bottom line is that we reached out to the pool manager and we asked her to
provide us a list of all the employees and their salaries so that we could hire them all all at once. And we asked her to stay within the confines of the salary ordinance as it was adopted at the beginning of this year. That was
that that's not my question, right? My question is do do we have any kind of increase compared with the last years of salary? I could give that I could give you that tomorrow morning. I have it in my office and it was distributed a
couple months ago, but I have a copy. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. Yeah. Dollar per hour increase compared to the last year. for everyone. What? For everyone? Yes. I
don't think so because she the first one is it says $22 and the last month it was except for the assistant manager. Okay. As assistant manager. Okay. One is to
23. Okay. But the others the agenda says $22. So they increase and they made that except for that the assistant made this exception. Anyway anyway u I'd like to remind you
at the work session we deleted this reg. I agree I agree. Okay. And then all of a sudden it shows up. Right. Right. And then also in terms of content it was very different from last. Yes. I agree. I agree. I agree.
If someone can recommend that we t uh not table, you know what? I'm going to scratch that because if I table, we're going to have the majority of the votes to vote to bring this back. So, if it's okay with the governor GI, I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to take this off the rest of the
Yeah, this is I understand the council woman and I had a conversation. One of the issues Yes. Well, remember saying that there are people working there who have not been appointed. So that's why we wanted to do
this and I said next year they will be on in April. They won't be on in June. But some of these people have been working. So we decided let's put everybody on. So they're all hired. These people are working. This was was not not deleted. It wasn't
there. You're right. and I had a conversation. No, we struck it out. Okay. So, we struck it out. It's fine. It's fine. No, no, no. I I agree with Council Christian Wan Yun. This is the
first time he's seen the breakdown. Um, if if it's okay with with you and and cler uh and the attorney, I would like to move this for our next month meeting. No, this is not first time to see the breakdown. The breakdown you saw
in May already. This is not first time to see the breakdown. Okay. Actually in May we saw the breakdown and we found the difference between two resolutions for the city. It's just that it's just that the problem right both council members
are correct. But I have to agree that council one you that this popped out at the last moment. It should have been in the work session. But if if any of the council members feel that you guys want to do this in in a later month because it's popped out even though council shin
who is a chair of the pool says that he understands. It's up to you guys. Anyway, can I move to my next? No, no, no, no. We have to finish this first. What would you like to do with 191? If you want to just let it pass. Just
only one. We'll let it pass. What's your other one? Oh, what's your other question? Yes, mayor. Yes. Go ahead. Oh, she's on the same Oh, same. Go ahead. Can I just ask a question? Sure. So, there's a discrepancy here showing there's two uh
two duplicate names there. No, it's actually two. It's two people. There's two people. Two people the same. Yeah, there's a lot of Daniel Q. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That You should have like one
two games. So, uh just for for that reszo, right? Uh I I I know uh I mean last minute work session. We we agreed to strike this
reso out but I checked from the uh previous uh original meeting packet which was back in May. It actually uh everything has got been reduced down to a dollar per person reduced. Yeah. Because just to fit into that that that
ordinance that we actually passed to establish the salary ordinance, right? By going through second reading with the salary ordinance. Uh they agreed to uh accept the old uh I guess uh the older the pay rate so
decrease pay right so uh since you know um well did you know about this cost well like I said we we requested you know about this we we we asked the pool manager to provide us
with me is it the business administrator Anyhow, so right now the reg shows every person you know uh each position right that actually reduce dollar each uh based on what I see right now from the
uh the May packet right so that actually uh if that doesn't that doesn't hurt the uh the range from the original ordinance that we adopted from the salary ordinance which it is So is it within
the range council right now? Right now we're amending an ordinance only for the uh the housing on right. No for the pool for the pool for employees too. Which one doesn't fit with? So if that's the case right we have to properly pass the
uh the ordinance which we're amending today has directly affecting a uh swimming pool position. Right. We have to properly pass the ordinance uh which we're amending today as the first reading and we have to actually wait
until the second meeting and then you could bring that reszo out which which salaries don't fall within the range on the current salary. No no no no no current salary I don't know I don't have the actual copy with me but actual um
ordinance that we're looking to amend today right based on that ordinance right that's 23 Did we did you uh make a change on the swimming pool? I think it was just to the manager and assistant manager. We had to make it to right. We
changed the range, but last time one said 22 and one said 23. So, we had to make them both the same thing. But this list is a result of a conversation I had with Councilwoman Monument because there are people working and she saw on
started with the bill list and there were people who got paid and she said these people were never hired. So she was right. So I said to Scott, I want to get a list of everyone that works there so we can hire them and that's it. That's where this is because otherwise
you have people working there. They're getting paid. I understand that. that this is making their position formal. I I get it. But but Okay. Go ahead. So, okay, bringing bringing out the uh the resolution. That's fine. All right. But
what I'm saying is do we made a change on the uh amending ordinance tonight? That's 23. Are we making any changes from the swimming pool position from the salary? Ju just just the manager I think. Was that done already? A dollar
difference. Nothing that affects different ordinance or the res. Okay. So, what what council council men is ask is saying is this is that is that
um it's been a dollar reduced from our last last um assessment. The prop the proposal is a dollar reduced for every single employee in the swim pool. Would that affect the range of the audience of the salary? Is that is that what you're
trying to say? Okay. So, we already have established the salary range back in March. Right. We have actually passed second reading on the original um ordinance. Right? Here's the problem becomes when the swimming pool hiring is
above the range based off on the what we established right now. Tonight's resolution it came out to be a dollar less than what what what is being proposed back in May. So with that said, do we have uh have have we touched the
salary range from the previous ordinance that we adopt? The only we changed the only thing we changed was a 2223, right? What else did we change? That was it. That was it. So we did change we did amend the uh we did amend the ordinance
of the swimming pool position. Is that the only one that you changed? That was the whole crux of why it got pulled. Yeah. So okay. So with that said, we're actually amending the ordinance the swimming pool uh position right now. We have to pass the ordinance first. Why?
That's what I'm trying to figure out. Are you saying that these salaries are not within the range in a current salary ordinance? I'm trying to figure that out. These are these are the same salaries that they weren't getting paid. Nobody was given a raise and they won't get a raise until the amended ordinance
gets approved on the second reading, right? Okay. So, that would issue now. But you guys actually amend the ordinance tonight, but that's that's really the please I can clear up. Please. Oh, you cleared up.
Okay. The current ordinance uh is actually $22 for assistant manager which is here. Okay. So uh in this resolution is really uh the it doesn't affect by this new revised ordinance. This
actually can go with the current ordinance. Okay, that was my question now because I've been keep asking have based on this ordinance that we're amending tonight. We're not only uh make changes on the position where I also
amending position from the swimming pool. No, just the manager assistant manager salary range went up to 25. So the numbers are changing right now. Just those two positions. But with that said, I mean numbers are changing from the old ordinance that we
adopt. Yeah, but these salaries fall within the current. So I'm just talking about the procedure wise here. Procedural issue. Yeah, right now. Right now we can vote on this because as a first this is a first reading not a second reading on the 23. No no no the
current salary ordinance as far as I been told the current the salaries on this resolution 2025-191 fall within the current salary coordinates the one that's in effect already. Then why would you want to
amend the uh the the the range on this amendment? because once these people are hired, there are some people that may be given raises. So we we and the the issue was brought up regarding the top end of the manager salary plus there was another position
which I mentioned before the municipal housing leaison that had to be changed as well. So that's that's why that ordinance. So we're changing the uh the multiple position but that has nothing to do with this resolution. This resolution right now is procedurally
sound unless somebody Somebody tells me that the current salary ordinance is not is doesn't support any of the salary. There's a problem. So what? So from the amending ordinance tonight, right, in that packet pool
section, right? The system pool manager is 20 to $25 an hour, right? That stays the same from the original salary we adopt back in March. No, I think that's higher. This is higher.
This one's higher. So, we're amending it. We're amending I said the manager and assistant manager salaries. We increase the top range. Right. So, we're amending the position of the salary here. Right. Right. Yeah. How can we
hire this new reso even before this amended uh the ordinance get amended? because the current salary ordinance I I don't know why you're getting so caught up on this new salary ordinance. It has nothing to do with this resolution. The current resolution, the salaries that
are on resolution 2025-1 191, they are all within the range of salaries in our currently passed and it adopted salary. So this resolution is for example
[Music] She's $22 per hour, right? Correct. But the new ordinance, the cap is now $25. That's the cap. You're saying the current ordinance in place allows $22. That was the cap on the prior the
ordinance that's in effect right now, it allows $22. Right. So, this resolution is in compliance with the current ordinance. Correct. And the purpose was to legally hire these who has been working at the pool for a month already
and was never done and so we decided that won't happen again. Apparently it happened last year as well and I didn't know that because I wasn't your list. So I wanted to get everyone hired who's working. That's all this is for the
purpose of putting it down on paper that these are the current employees of the court and yes next meeting there will be six or seven other lifeguards because they just got certified and fired since then these are the existing employees
council council me anybody else question about 191 Any more questions? I have a one more question. Yes. 221. 221 which is hiring special. Uh I I didn't catch it one day
when you explained why we already special. Yeah, they they had to withdraw for some technical reasons and we can I can explain that to you later on. go into executive session if you'd like, but the bottom line is they they had to
withdraw and to finish the investigation, we we need to we need to bring in a new firm that can just tie everything up. Sounds like there is some I mean uh council Lee and council and I
we are actually appointed as a police trailer investigation committed last year. Yes, you are right. Right. We haven't heard anything about I thought they doing fine and they give us actually you know status report
and all of a sudden they why didn't we hear that before let's go session if you want because or you could wait until the meeting's over and you could you could you could talk to the counselor but right now that specific question cannot be answered in
Any more questions? Councils, can I have two questions? Yes. Uh resol number 213 Medicare Part B. Yes. So um Scott uh from from the agenda
meeting, right? remember we're talking about um if uh if this is needing the uh okay I know you were mentioning about you know Alan uh stating that
is not we have to it wasn't a question of whether it was legally okay the question was whether or not other municipalities pay for part B for their employees that was the question and we and the decision was made and and that
we are going to continue to pay Medicare part B for our so both complent you right we have to for for agree on this as per yeah that the issue I raised was one of
just future consideration a future we shouldn't be stuck in a pickle like this correct but people who have a contract for them forever yeah you have and Rob stated that we have to contract.
And uh last question for me is 224. 224. Yes. Um so uh this is based off on the uh yes uh round four housing uh housing element uh fair share plan. Right. Now
this this was actually adopted from the uh pling board last week Wednesday. Correct. Yes. Now this came to us to actually uh pass this resol right but this actually
deals with the uh the master plan the part of the master plan um right it's it's part of right so do we as a console uh get to read over the partial master
plan that deals with this res of The housing element fair plan you just showed us before. Right. I'm saying does does that was it what everybody got before the share housing plan that was given to all the council members not just you
everybody got it? No no no long time ago this fair housing plan was presented by at the planning board and just so you know there's a June 30th deadline. I'm not talking about the deadline. It
actually got compared in second. So, every council member has the uh the packet to go over. No, what this is is that this for the share housing plan for the
fourth round. This was actually the That's the plan for you guys. Again, council members, I I beg you, I urge you. I'm going to have to change my way. I have to do it next year. But having said that, I'm going to request the committee chairs create a simple report and give it to the rest of the council
members so this won't happen. Or I could take it upon myself to do it myself. But why do I need the committee chairs now committees anymore, right? I'm expecting the committees to give a report. This was a fourth round. I think I spoke with John about this as well about about
about how we have fourth obligations that was supposed to be prepared recently like this month. Now it's been two three months. This was actually there with cocker and cocker and uh how do we disclose the fourth round besides
just just personally talking about it because I remember talking to you John I don't know if I remember talking to Christian but the fourth rounds right the fourth rounds what it is is that we have a deadline um with a certain amount of time after we set because you know we
started fourth round already uh the court wants our cons our plan how to address foreground required affordable homes. Um so and Cocker um went through that and and those those projects are all
that we disclosed when we had a closed meeting with Kaka and Cocker. Now I remember when he had all the list we're taking pictures of the videos on the on the phone on the on the computer. We all wrote it down where the project locations are that he's going to
propose. Remember that list? We We all remember that. We We all had that. We all had that. But we didn't have an official uh build this remedy committee meeting. I got this uh master plan uh docet which is about 100 pages long from
the uh the planning work, right? So, no, the master plan has nothing to do with it right now. No, it does. Why? The housing element and fair share plan is a part of the master plan. It's a section. So after we do all of
this, right, you go through the remedies from the court, we do redevelopment overlay zones. This is not a remedy. No, it's not. No, no, no. What I'm trying to say is we have to finish all the court jobs. What we're doing like we're doing right now, we're redevelopment zones and
that is part of the master plan. We can't complete the master plan until we go through the procedures. Go ahead. Go ahead. I mean, the thing I'm concerned about is, you know, the planning board actually called their special meeting on the May 30th, right? To uh to get this get this thing
adopted, right? It was actually last week. No, they call for the meeting for the special meeting on May 30th. Right. Cocker and Cocker prepare their master part of master plan that uh that goes
with this adoption right on a June 2nd right now. They actually had the planning board meeting last week, Wednesday. And this plan with with the appendix, right, the page of the appendix, right? It's got a bunch of pages, right? They distribute on the
13th of June. That's that's that's time I got. Okay. too. So, what I'm my question is every council member here actually review their master plan. No. Okay. Got it. No, I don't think so. Um I see where you're
going at council councilman. Um counselor, when did you get notification from the court that we have to do this? My last build remedy. No, this is Bill. Thank you, sir. No, no, no. I'm asking the counselor. I'm asking I'm asking
Scott. The planning board approved the housing element and fair share plan on Wednesday or Thursday of last week. Why? Why? And then after that and and then after that um uh that that night the adoption by the
planning board had to be filed with the court. I reviewed that plan uh excuse me the resolution that was prepared by the planning board uh and it required further adoption by the council. Um I inquired as to our outside
council when that had to be done by and I was told the deadline is June 30th. So I immediately requested that our outside council working with me put together a resolution for this council to adopt it today since we have to comply state law.
adopt basically you just endorse the plan that was adopted by the plan. I think I think cite me if I'm wrong councilman and I now have the same inquiry. Why was it lack of a better term I'm not going to beat around the bush. Why was it presented at the last moment again?
Why was this presented last moment? Why did we the council members find out and also the planning board that we got to do it now now? Now now now that's why they have to that that special meeting. Yeah, you can ask Mike Cocker what took him a while. It was not an easy task,
especially considering everything that we were already engaging. Mike Cocker had a deadline and he was working on it. Oh, he's been working on Yeah, he's been working on it with him. You're telling me that he barely completed right before the deadline? Yeah, it was up to the last minute. Okay. Okay. This is why
council member men is uncomfortable because you know he had to read 110 you know try to read the uh the part of or whatever the master plan and he felt that that was not proper on a few days notice
the massive plan that that the planning board got right 110 how The council members never never got it. Oh, because because because Yeah, you're okay. Last week, right? I can see what happened. Last week, Copper
and Copper, I'm going to imagine it's thumbnail. I barely got it done. Let's push this. Let's push this, Scott. I don't even know. I'm going to assume that. And Scott said, "Okay, we got to get Hey, Chad. No, could you create a meeting to pass this fast?" And then and then at that moment, you should have
somebody should have gave us the master plan 110 master plan. It was prepared back in June. Both appendex and partially that that I'll take responsibility, right? It should have been passed on to the governor body beforehand because it
was prepared before and I and I do appreciate your comment. Castle made um we shouldn't be surprised. Um but but take please take that in consideration. Coch and cocker did Michael Cocher did finish at the last moment but that's not the case. Cases that
The our counselor should have provided that beforehand knowing that you know within a month we should have got it not not not through the planning board documents and it should happen again council. Please be careful.
So any more is that your question councilman? All right. Anybody more? All right. Good. I have a motion to pass resolution in the resolution 2025
190 resolution 202525 motion. Thank you. I have a second a second, please. Thank you. Roll call. Council Kim. Council Lee. I vote yes except
resolution 2025 224 22 to4 24 are we now or 191 right now we decided it's of course your vote You could say no, yes or abstain or
recuse. Having said that, we had conversation that we will stick with our original documents that was prepared by uh by by the um um before those those records will reflect the range and the question that you have. So we'll we'll
figure that out. So um my vote is resol number 2025-1 190. Yes. Uh through 220 is yes. 2202 Yes. 220. 220. Yes.
I'll be staining on 221, 222, 223, 224. Okay. Got it. FC 221 225 by council. No, 224. Oh, okay. Yes. On 220. Yes. Okay.
So council mean except 2025 is 190 220 and abstain 221 222 223 224 and 2.5 yes yes okay council
yeah u resolution 24 um 224 I didn't have time to check so that Okay. Yes. Except 2025 224. He's going to be abstaining.
Council voting no on 196 2011 205 206 207 208 218 29 221 and 225.
Okay. So say yes except 2025 196 2011 205 206 207 208 218 219 221 225 council
yes except 221 through 225. Okay. Council one yes to 192 but you're going to be saying no. Okay. She's going to be abstain 221 through 225.
Okay. Okay. Um I'm I'm sorry council members after discussing with you we have to go back to our ordinance. What was that ordinance again? 2025-8. Believe there were four extensions. Is
that true? Yeah. So, um with a six member council that does not pass. So, we we have an issue uh that deal with that. Yes. We're talking about 21 Grand
Avenue. Correct. Correct. House members, we need your help. Um, let's let's do a revote. We have a motion to revote of the ordinance 2025-18 adopting redevelopment plan 21 Grand
Avenue. Um attorney said that we need more than we need less than four days in March. Yeah. Have a motion to rese. Thank you very much. We have a second.
Thank you. Let's do this. council. Yes. Council me. Yes. Council vi. Yes. Council. Okay. So, we had three. Yes. Three.
Thank you. Yes. Okay. Okay. Good. Thank you. I really appreciate your efforts. Uh let's learn from my experience. Every you know, we can always work
together to improve things here and uh um I appreciate the council members always be on their toes and correcting issues that just comes out that comes out and we have to address. Uh we move ahead now to the council reports.
to start with counsel please. Uh from the school board there is an end of year meeting this Wednesday and during the meeting there will be faculty appointments for the 2025 2026
school year. Great. Thank you. Thank you. And I really appreciate you contacting the board of ed and the board of education so I could properly uh provide the scholarships. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Council chef uh for the swimming pool. Last week we finally we opened the swimming pool. Actually as you know there was some serious criticism on the delay the
opening of swimming pool in the media. I don't know where they got that information but uh anyway the reason for the delay of the opening was mislo for 20 years actually it was in our prop
it should be in our property but unfortunately it was other private the company's parking lot staying there or almost deserted for 20 years so finally the viola
didn't allow us to keep that way. So, we had to fix it. So, it took a time. Also, there was very rusted the tank and filter which is very miserable to see and we had to fix it. So, while we are
fixing, we were fixing it, it was busted. So, that was totally unexpected. So, we had to fix it too. And fortunately the weather week when the weather weather was very bad to open. So weather helped us to delay the opening.
So what the media says the it was not because of the weather but uh weather is apparently one of the reason of delayed booking. Finally the weather is helping to us the helping us. Last weekend the
weather was very good. So we had we were very very busy and uh even last year we have now been won 139 members they registered so we are in pretty good
shape and the weather is keep hot so it's we are pretty in pretty good shape also for the DPW uh I set okay June and July as like pothole
months. Okay. I got a lot of complaints, okay, about the potholes in our town and if you compare our town's pothole compared to the like Leona or Rigfield is so miserable. So I can't see that and
we can't tolerate that anymore. So I I'm working with DBW. First we'll check all the roads in the parasite park and make some kind of like part maps to fix. Then we'll fix it like in June and July and
our people residents would do not see any parts in Paris Park. That's my hope. Thank you. Thank you for that. Um just be sure please involve the BA. She is a general highest managing uh employee
here. Work with her. Um I it really breaks my heart council council Shin that you're so deeply involved in trying to reform the DPW. make sure that, you know, the public, you know, knows that they're working. Um, you shouldn't be to that
point. The DP what I'm saying is the DPW should have went by themselves driving around, finding the potholes, making the maps by themselves and reporting back to you. Okay. I'm the council councilman
overseeing the work of the DBW. So, understood. Understood. So I whenever I have the meeting or contact with DBW the VA is involved. So always I'm together with VA. So I I'm just overseeing and
what I'm saying is just I'm not instructing or I'm not the micro the invol micro whatever. Okay. Thank you. Thank you councilman. H reports. Council report.
Um, are you working on the health fair? I see we're working on the health fair together. Yeah. All right. I'll do that. I'll do that this week. Thank you for the invit. At the last meeting, we hired a new
director will start sometime in the middle of July when the the current director is going to leave. of July. So that's one we'll have a special meeting on July 1st and then we
will have a meeting uh in August and during the school years um Monday through Thursday between 3 to 5 the there are a lot of little kids and students are there and making a lot of
noises. So we did discuss at the last board meeting and it looks like staff the library staff uh they are kind of they don't feel really comfortable to kind of you know tell them be quiet be quiet constantly
uh because of that can be you know complained by the parents and so on. So we discussed it that kind of issue is really issue is a management issue. So uh when we reopen this board meeting
which is in September, we'll probably work on the policies and how to train and those uh for the library staff and students so that we can have a quiet library uh going forward.
Thank you very much. Um may I ask uh what is a general subject matter for the special meeting for the library board? Yeah, there was some uh some property belongs to the library. Uh
that's kind of a treat it as a kind of you know like trash which is not really desirable. Uh so we kind of understand we try to understand what was the reason behind it all this and so that how we
can actually remedy becomes very valable. to the library. So that is a kind of why we have a discussion. Thank you. I I want to go back if you would mayor to ordinance 2025-18
and ordinance 2025-9. Just thinking about this now. This is very unusual to have a three four and three. It's not technically majority. So, what I'd like to do if the clerk could call for the mayor's tie break
vote on those ordinances just just to be sure just to be safe. I don't have the right to vote unless it's a split. Well, it is a split three. Oh, you mean so I don't know no no we've got a problem with those two
ab is a vote is a vote recuse is not a vote abs is a vote check it out cler Can you check? [Music] It's still a vote, right? It's still
just a three. Yes. The problem is vote three on a six member council is not majority. If the majority of vote cast but majority of full members require we fail. So and we have six
members. So membership require you affirmative. So you talk about super majority. Just a majority. Just a majority. Six consils here and you have three yes and three abain, right? So abstain doesn't count as a vote. Three count as a
actually does count as a vote. No. Recuse is not a is a vote. Absorb state is not a vote. It's a no vote. It's not a vote. But the mayor may if it's a three three, the mayor has a
right to vote. That's is abs or not? That's what's that rules ab is not is considered not a vote. It's just a basically present under Robert's rules. So with a 33 basically it's a tie. It would be your
vote to carry the call. And it may have right to vote. We still have time. Let's call. Well, he says no because there's no tie. A tie is equal. Yes and no vote. You have three yes and zero no. Three abstain which are
neutral not actuality tie. There's no actual tide vote. Yes. So for the but you don't have a majority because the extensions go towards towards a quorum and so that
would be six. So three is not you don't have a majority. But if you look at Robert's rules under this setup, the way you have this government, the mayor, the mayor would be able to vote if there's a t if there's a if there's a car if it's
free and and free extensions, the mayor would have have a right to vote. Well, it's up to you. No, no, no. I don't mind voting, but I just want to make sure that the proper authority who knows about the law, who could bank on their comments. Let me bounce. That's fine.
May I have a motion to take five minute break, please? May I have a motion? I have a motion to have five minute break. Thank you. A second by Charlie Shin. All in favor? I. Thank you. Five minute break, guys. Just want to be sure. There's one.