uh get started. I got two more wanting to come in. Let me find them. Uh there we go. And I had my notetaker has just jumped in, too. So,
we'll have some notes from it. Um all right, guys. Thank you so much for joining me for our calendar uh meeting. I am going to share my screen so we can >> start recording.
>> Uh I will hold on. Some reason my mouse just locked up and my screen went blank. Gotta love technology. >> Wait, the all of my forwarding emails
have been blocked this morning. So, I am having some issues. Uh D, I am not moving at all. >> No, you're frozen. >> Yeah, I can't even like get it to log me
out. I'm like completely stuck. That is weird. Nothing is moving. But you guys can hear me. >> Yeah. >> Oh, wow. That is definitely weird. >> All right. I think I'm gonna have to restart.
Oh, maybe. Hold on. Something just went black again. My mouse is now working. Okay, we are going to try this. I'm hitting share. All right, D, can you pull up the PowerPoint? I'm logging in and out.
>> Okay. All right. I'm not sure. Can you guys hear me? >> We can hear you. I We just can't see you. Your camera's off. >> All right. Yep. Uh the computer is restarting. So, I joined on my phone for right now because I don't want to waste our time. So, uh as soon as I can get
the computer back up, I'll go to it. But D has control of all of our documents. Um >> well, hold on one second. Um I'm going to transfer ownership of this to me so I can start the recording. Okay. >> Okay. Um >> while she is doing that, we have been
charged with uh doing the calendars for 2028 29 and or 2728 and 2829. So the two years next year we know is already approved because this committee was the
uh main committee that organized the last two years uh the current year we're in and the next year. So we've been asked to do 278 28 29. Um, we went to look for other districts that had any
calendars for us to uh um see what they were doing and none of them have 27 28 28 29 out. Uh when I talked to some of them, they said, "Please share when you're done because we usually follow
you." Uh so uh we do have um a lot of other counties that are looking at that for us uh to kind of lead the way um as we're going through this. Last year uh we were able to develop a pretty good
system that made sure the committee was uh um expanded. We put people in in things that we had not thought about previously on the committee uh so that we could make sure our discussion was uh robust
that we had covered a lot and and we have gotten good reviews and haven't had to edit any of the calendars before the board that have been there so far. Um right now our timeline for this is to look at um getting something before the
board in the spring so that we are covering it and our board policy that dictates school calendars does say that we'll bring it before the board in the spring. So as we move on to that next slide D uh the
calendar committee we uh have union representation. We had invited all of our unions in NBU. Uh we've got principles on here. Um we were able to bring in PTA representation last time which was great. Uh we also made sure
that we had appropriate people from our departments. Uh ensuring that we've got FTE, that we have athletics, that we've got the academics and all to be brought in. Payroll is here as well. and payroll is going to play a big role in the
calendars that we have for this year. Uh so we definitely are glad that they are able to join us. Um and making sure that you know we've got all the right people here. Uh our next slide D takes us into
um and getting her to move over to the next slide. I did. I I don't know what's going on with our computer systems today, but there we are. >> There we go. Uh there are some statutes and uh areas that we've got to adhere
to. We've got um the uh not starting before August 10th. Uh that is a statute requirement. We have requirements on the amount of uh hours that we have to have for a full-time uh calendar for the
students in order to get credits for graduation. We also have specific guidelines on the number of um sick days and such as well um that or not sick days uh vacation days that we need to
follow too. Um, so as we move on through because I want us to get to the guts of our our programming and and that type of thing and my computer is still restarting which is crazy. Um, D, you stopped sharing
and she is now removed from the call. How wonderful. What a fabulous meeting we're having today. I am so sorry with you guys. Okay. So, as soon as I can get her back, I'm going to go ahead and go off screen and and um talk about the
requests that we've had. So, as we're uh going through and getting things started back up from this crazy thing, um the um yeah, it does look like they pushed an update that is definitely causing some
issues. Um the we've had our request for us to consider Veterans Day as a day that either um everyone uh students and uh employees are off or students are
off. Uh that has always been a request. It's one as we're going through that I want you to consider and think about. All right, we're now recorded and transcribed. All right. So, Veterans Day is one. Um, we
have gotten a response back and people overwhelmingly uh like having the week of Thanksgiving off. Uh, it seems I think if we tried to not do that, it would be uh one that would have a lot of
uh put uh people talking back and and giving us their input on that. Um, we will have to consider an election year when we are doing one of our calendars. So, we need to make sure that we're looking at election days as well. Um,
spring break, uh, spring break in the calendar, um, based off of the times and all, one thing that we've had a request for was whenever we have spring break, it's usually at the natural end of third
quarter. And we've had a request from our um uh school food service to just keep in mind that the day after spring break, that Monday, which would be we either have work day on Friday before
spring break or Monday after spring break, uh that if we did it on the Monday after, it gave a bit more time for uh them to do meal prep, have food deliveries, and that type of thing done
on that day and to just kind of consider that if we had the option that that was something that they would like us to consider. Um ending the first semester prior to winter break. That has been a big one from our principles as well to
make sure that we do that. Um so uh you know is thinking about it. It's something that they will enjoy the um u winter break more without having to study uh and being prepared for exams
that would happen after a two-eek long. So that one has also uh been one of the issues or one of the requests. um work days on Friday um during the um first semester.
If we have PD day or work day on a Friday, we do need to realize that that also is uh when we have a lot of athletes that are in football games, our cheerleaders, those and they depend on
the bus transportation to um get to uh school. And if we have a work day on that day, then they're not able to ride the bus. We still end up with our uh games going on. So for them, they need
to, you know, find other transportation. So it might be something that we definitely want to consider and not have uh them on um uh on Friday if possible. So that was another consideration. We've
also had the request for um starting school later because of the number of students uh in Palm Beach County that are in the um camps outside the state.
Um, in a folder that D is going to share with you, you'll find a um, PowerPoint that was presented to us from a group of the camp owners that wanted to let us know exactly the impact both uh, that
their camp had on the students and the teachers that work their camps and on, you know, by the impact both by having them have to leave a week early or uh not being able to work during that time
and how much they have uh gained from the experience of camp to begin with. So they put together a petition to get uh signatures for just to show the impact
for it. There's a link to their petition in the um uh PowerPoint. I checked it this morning. The petition has 4,010 signatures on it uh as of this morning
for those that wanted um us to consider having uh camp a little later. Now >> Diane, you muted yourself. >> Yay. I'm back now. Okay. All right. I don't know how long I'll stay because
for some reason it started back up and did not make me log back in. So you guys know that that's probably risky to begin with, but uh at least I am able to get back and we were still able to keep covering. So um so the camp did share a
presentation that is in uh your um documents for you to see and uh with it. Um so they did have quite a few uh signatures and all what they were requesting is that we start a week
later. Um, honestly, I I think that based off of the calendar and the situations that we have, uh, we we will be covering that as we go through. Um, the calendars,
let's see, I think I covered all of those things. Um, and avoiding a pay gap. We are no longer calling it a pay gap. I tried to correct it on the other slide, but I didn't get this one. It is a difference in uh pay periods between
your last paycheck of one contract and your new paycheck of another contract, a second contract. And uh with it, we try to avoid it for as many employees as possible, but in uh an upcoming year,
it's not going to be avoidable for a large number of of employees that cycle. and Nancy can help me if I go astray. Um, occurs every 11 years. So, every 11 years there is a time when we have that
difference between when one contract ends and when another one begins that ends up causing there to be a difference in the pay. Nancy, did I butcher that completely? Um I I just want to say it's
not the full salary is paid during the the pay cycle. It's not that where they're having a reduction in their pay. >> Yes, there is full they're still getting full they're getting their full contract pay. >> It's just that one it ends one year and
>> and then the >> they don't they can't start in time to get a paycheck for the following year. So, and and with this it said it occurs uh about every 11 years for uh each employee and we're coming up on a period
where it's going to affect 17 18,000 employees. So, we want to be able to get these calendars organized and get the word out in advance to be able to let people know that that is a
possibility or that will be happening. So the calendars at that time um there's no date that we could start that would change the um the option. So it's not that oh well let's just start on the
10th or let's start on the 16th. It does not matter which calendar date we choose. This is something that is going to happen. Um and we you know we can't get around it. um as soon as we can get our calendars organized and and ones
that we would be presenting to the board um you know the sooner the better for them to be able to let employees know that this could be happening not this summer but next summer right yeah because we have next year's calendar already done so um so with that
keep that in mind you know that I usually bring to you two calendars to choose from uh and uh for each year for us to kind of work through. And for it this time, um, uh, I'm not able to do that for some reasons that I'll be able
to discuss in that first calendar, uh, and and show you what we have, but we will go through each month and come up with our, um, order for for each month. Uh, D, next slide.
Um, we've got our standard paid holidays that we must uh make sure are within the calendar. None of these have changed. And then the next slide is the considerations that I went over when I didn't have a presentation in
front of me. So, I think we can move on to the next one. Uh, and as I said, none other calendars. We have St. John that's starting on uh the 20 the 11th. So, I do have one. All right. And then the federal holidays for
each year. And that's in a spreadsheet in the folder that D is sharing with you as well. And the major religious holidays are all listed as well for us to to see, you know, as we're going through. We know
that academics uh and getting things in order is is one thing that we have to do. We have specific requirements by statute driven. Uh and then we've got our religious holidays that we are considering as well. So >> Diane, it's been Kim Evans has a hand
raised. >> Yes, I am. Sorry, Kim. >> Hi Diane. Um two things. One, we've brought it um the executive board has also brought to the superintendent months ago about that whole pay gap or not pay gap, whatever we're calling it,
that the earlier we can make employees aware and explain it to them, the better. so that I get the whole um calendar thing. And the second thing is um sorry my CIS is going off. Second thing is um that the those petition things
that you're referencing, they are flooding social media with those. So I don't know if there's anything we can do in communication. um if Sean and his crew can come up with something that we can kind of send out to support the district. But it is I mean I I don't know if I clicked on
something or whatever, but my it's all over my social media to go in and and sign these petitions. So um they're getting a lot of time. >> Yeah, they are. And they um uh are in um
looking specifically at uh Palm Beach and Broward. to kind of lead the way because that's where a large majority are. Um I when I met with them last week, I did tell them that I think there's some calendar things that are going on that might end up being, you
know, uh that will might naturally happen that might get them where they're wanting to land to begin with and that I did not think that flooding the board office and the others with it right now was something that they needed to see how the calendar played out because uh
you know, we look at what we need to do for the the best of our students. our employees, our community uh as well. But at the same time, we've got to make sure we meet everything needed for academics. So, um I I I I have seen it as well, but
definitely one of the a major push for us. Um all right. Uh and thank you, Kim. And that was that slide there for input. Anyone else have anything specific? because I I want us to get to the the meat as possible because uh you know
more we can start talking about the specifics on our plate the better. And you guys uh uh thanks for bringing Kim's hand up for me because I'm not seeing everybody with the pre presentation here but uh definitely just
kind of say Diane stop a minute and jump in. Okay, I'm good with that. Um all right D we are going to try me sharing my screen and hoping that I don't
>> stop sharing you want to um try Yes. All right, guys. So, as you recall when um last year when we were going through the calendars, we were able to go through and literally say, "Okay, yes, we like this. No, we don't like this."
We're going to do the same thing for the calendars that we have this time. So, I have that already ready. I'm going to go through 2728 and then I'm going to pitch over to D for 2829. >> Diane, can you make it a little bigger? >> Absolutely. I'm going to share the
calendar with you um first and then we'll get bigger. Is that better? >> Yes. >> Okay. So we we have uh July coming in holiday for 4th of July since the 4th is
on a Sunday we've put that holiday on the Monday afterwards for it and and as you know the last time I went through it and kind of gave you my rationale for what we were looking at and then we came back and said let's
talk about whether or not we want to edit change or or uh move some things around. So, in this calendar here, the um 10-hour weeks would go through the first week of August. Now, notice here that
we've got preschool starting on Monday the 9th through the four uh 13th and school not starting to the 16th. Now, you might say, well, why are we not starting on the 10th? Because the 10th is the earliest that we could do that.
Um there's a couple of reasons. One, 10th being a Tuesday, I know that we have had communication previously from uh uh principles and the calendars that we have for um uh your scope and
sequence and those things starting midweek or in the middle of the week does prov uh prove to be an inconvenience or or having things unbalanced. But the um we have employees on two different pay cycles.
We have some employees that are 22 pays and we have other employees that are 26 pays. And the way in which our computer system is set up with Peopleoft is they process all of those employees at the
same time for the 22 pay. And if we start on the 10th, then we are going to have part of our 22s working during that two-eek period and some not working because they would not start until
students started. Um, with that, the system would take some major overhauls to be able to handle that processing of the 22s on a split pay. We could start the students on the 13th,
but how many of you are in favor of starting students on Friday the 13th? I see some head shaking. you know, it's uh and if we did that, we would only have preschool for four days, Monday through Thursday, and students come in
on Friday, because would we really want to ask teachers to come in on Friday the 6th and then work Monday through Thursday? So, Jason, what what are you thinking? >> Don't start the 13th.
>> Don't start the 13th. Yeah. Uh, and the reason why I'm only showing you one calendar when I had two was because my other option was Friday the 13th. And when I talked to our the HR division and my division chief, they're like, that's
just not a good option. Why put it out there to even say don't do it? you know, so that's uh so here because of payroll and uh where we need to be, we know that the teachers like and we have enjoyed a
five-day preschool and because of that we only have 179 student days that this would be starting students on the 16th. Now that's exactly what was um requ and
Philip I agree fiveday preschool is very important. It gives them more time in their room while at the same time balancing all of those required trainings that we have as well. And uh that part is very important. So naturally for this calendar starting the
school on the 16th for students is the the best option. you know, it also meets what the the campers were wanting, but not doing it because of the campers, but because this is our natural selection of what's uh possible.
So, um as we move forward, we have and let me move my this so I can get a hold of this bar. September has our holiday for um uh
Labor Day in it. And as we move on down, we have holiday on the 2nd of October and the 11th, ending the first nine weeks with 43 days
on uh October the 15th, which is a Friday, and having the work day on that Monday for it, which would be able you know, 43 days. You know, if we went
to 45, we would be having a a midweek Wednesday workday. So, we we just, you know, we put it in here. This is where you guys will be making those decisions as we move on through. Um, November,
we have um these days when there's nothing there, that should say Thanksgiving holiday. on it. I might have picked it up and moved it. Um, November the 11th having a
PD day on it, beginning the trimester on the first there. That gives us a full 60 days. Also, uh, that brings in Veterans Day, right, De?
>> Yes. >> Yeah. All right. as I move on over because I want to be able to have you uh look at this completely and then us go through each one. Um being starting
winter break on the 17th because uh Christmas is a week later. You get the week before and the week after for it. Uh that one kind of worked out well. End of the nine weeks. um
middle and high school principles, that's going to put the second uh 9 weeks at 38 days. But if we went further than that, we would have to not have exams until after the holiday.
I I'm not sure how you guys feel about that whether or not that's going to be a a issue for it. Phil or Paul? >> So dumb question because this seems to come up every year that second quarter is short, you know, because of this time
because of the discussion. Has there any conversation about making first quarter shorter so that they're >> and we did make first quarters only 43 days instead of 45. >> Right. But what I'm saying is >> balance them a little bit better that
>> it just so second I mean >> again I've spent very limited time in my career in a school >> but I feel like as a sec coming from secondary I would rather have a shorter first quarter and have a full length you
know second quarter or close to a full length second quarter but that's just me. >> Okay. Uh Jason, >> especially given the fact that four days of the second quarter is eaten up in high schools by semester exams. >> All right, I see we have Corey on here.
Phillip, uh Brian, we've got quite a few secondary um principles. What are you What are you guys thinking? >> I'll defer to Corey because this is ultimately the biggest part of this is it's a high school issue. Also, I just
want to point out with Paul's point is that we have PM2 in December, which is another huge um situation. So, um if if quarter one, you know, break as we break into the school year was shorter, I agree with Paul. I don't know if there's
any mandates on the size of of quarters. Um, but if we do go and one is extraordinarily short, I do think that on the calendar that we put out, there should be an asterisk explaining it because then people always like, why was why is this quarter only 39 days or 41
days? And so I think that it would behoove us to explain it on the calendar as to the constraints. Okay, >> Jason, were you talking about really quick the uh exam week? >> Yeah, because if we only have a 38 day,
second nine weeks, four of those days basically on this calendar will probably be day 35, 36, 37, and 38 would all be exam days. And so really, it's a 34 day nine weeks with a PM2 popped in there and then four days of ex for a high school and four days of exams. So just
to Paul's point, if we just move the ninewe break up a little bit, that would just make the two nine weeks a little more equal as far as the number of actual instructional days because those four days are lost for instruction. Um Diane, I agree with Jason and just just one thing that you know um he
didn't just to double down on what he said too, those days that he's referencing are also on the high school campus half days. >> Yeah. So, so the kids are leaving um uh after their exams. They're they're home
by 11 11:30 12. >> So, it shouldn't it shouldn't be a problem. >> I know I'm elementary, but Diane, it looks like if you just flipped everything up Oh, no, you can't because the 11th is a holiday.
>> I was thinking if you just moved everything up a week, it would make that the shorter. Yeah, because if you moved uh well and it could be that we moved into end of the nine weeks for 39 days to October 8th,
we have that holiday and teacher work day right after it and it'd be a you know the holiday and the next it' have a three-day week that week.
I don't know why my mouse is doing this. I'm trying to get it out of the way. You know, I just I don't know whether a three-day week starting on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. >> Are you in the are you in the first nine weeks on Thursday the 7th? You make a
work day on Friday the 8th and then Well, okay. So, speaking from FTE purposes, um I'm I don't have the dates for uh the 28th school year yet, but I imagine that's going to FT window is going to end on the 8th. So, if we were
um in school that day. It would make things a lot easier for that. It causes funding problems. If we have a hurricane or anything else, it it just be more prudent for us to be able to have that ETH be a school day in case the uh
window ends on the ETH. >> So the C I want to confirm what you what's everyone saying is that the end of the first nine weeks would be the ETH. The Monday would be a holiday. The Tuesday the 12th would be a work day. And then the beginning of this second
nine weeks would be on the 13th. >> Correct? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yep. And that would that would basically flip the calendar to where first nine weeks is 39 days and we'd get
an extra uh 4 days. we would be closer to like 42 43 days for second nine weeks. Okay, that's and we'd still be ending it before the winter break or before uh taking exams before winter break.
Yeah, it is a good point. Uh let's look at January uh duty uh coming in back on January the 3 beginning that next uh third nine weeks on the 4th.
We do have the holiday on the 17th, February. Um, and then let's move it on over. Uh, February has end of the trimester on February the 18th, which is a Friday,
and a duty day on that Monday the 21st, >> and that trimester is 54 days long. So there is a possibility is a 54-day trimester for elementary something that span before the holiday and after
something that would cause any concerns. Not seeing anybody jumping in for the elementary site. Uh, okay. And then moving over to March, spring break being
that third full week of March, which would end the third nine weeks. And that date's going to be a difference if we change the other. So, it's 52 here. Uh,
we would be backing it up. >> Do I think it stays the same? >> Will it stay the same? >> Yeah, it will because first day starts on the same. There's no backup there. 52 is an awful long long one.
Is there any we could take five days off if we moved spring break >> up a week? >> And you still got the same issue of so much testing particularly in high schools going on in May. It might make
sense to frontload that a little bit. >> How many days end up being in the fourth quarter? >> Fourth quarter is um >> 46. 46 >> of which we're still going to encounter that same issue with high schools of losing four days. Right. >> Right.
>> So that puts us really at 42 and then comparing that that's a that's a bigger discrepancy than we had between Q1 Q2 >> you know. So I think maybe a natural move is is to push spring break up the 13th through 17th advis those five days.
>> It does by five and evens out that semester. between the two quarters. >> Philip from the middle school side, where do you feel on that? >> I like that. >> Any impact to athletics with the move a
week up? >> I don't think Valerie's on. >> No, I'm I'm here. Um, no. Hey, hi everybody. Um, the 13th through the 17th, I don't think so. We're having the majority of our winter sports state championships come in end of February,
that first week of March for men's basketball and wrestling. Um, so I don't think there'd be I don't think there'd be too big of an impact if you wanted to shift it up by a week. >> Okay. And I do remember you talking about a lot of uh travel
sports earlier in March than later for those kids that do travel. Um >> yeah, I mean a lot of times our >> just in can keeping the community, you know, piece in in mind as well. But
>> yeah, I mean, and travel really has become a fullear thing. Um, and I'm not sure I'm not sure that we're going to really be able to cater to everyone with with how the travel world's been operating. >> But if we don't see a major issue, I think evening that out definitely is a
consideration that we haven't, you know, gone through before and moving spring break up a week, which would then move the duty day to the 20th. Then April, April 14th is a holiday. That's Good
Friday. I think Easter is later this year. And then the um Memorial Day on May the 29th and students because we have to get in
our 179 days. The last day for students would be on a um Thursday with teachers Friday on the 2nd. >> And I do believe and I know I I heard a ding for someone's hand up. Just a
second, Eric. I do think the fact that the calendar doesn't start until August the 16th and we're still able to be out by June 2nd is a a good thing. uh that most would have automatically thought starting on the 16th we would have been
going into the second week of of June. Eric, >> yeah, just looking at this calendar and based on we just signed a three-year contract with the South Florida Fairgrounds for graduations. Um I would probably begin graduations at
the at May 15th through May 25th at the fairgrounds. So just let I know Cor Corey's on here as a high school leader. So that's probably what we're looking at. >> So a little later for graduation schedule because of the end
for it. All right. So So we've kind of gone through the the different pieces for it. Um, we've got the I think this is the one I need, right? D 27 28. Um, and being able to
>> That's the one we need bigger. >> Okay. >> Better. All right. So, based off of the calendar, and I'm going to go back and forth, guys, let's go up here. Based off of July, is there anything in
July that we're wanting to change? Nothing there to change really other than knowing that the fifth uh July 4th is we're having off on the 5th.
Are we good with the both of those? >> Nobody speaking out loud tells me we're good. >> Yes. >> I I just identified the new rule of the road of the the committee. All right. Speak now. All right. So, if we move on into August,
um having preschool the week of the 9th because what budget restraints and all does for us and students starting on the 16th, does anyone have any other suggestions or is that kind of look good for you guys?
I see some head shaking. Don't hear any >> We're definitely not going to start on the 13th. Right. And the 13th really is our only way unless we have a complete overhaul of the People Soft system to be able to handle payroll differently and that it's not going to happen.
So >> somebody hands up. >> No apologies. It was just a thumbs up was what it was supposed to be. >> I'm glad you're in in favor. Good deal. So we're no changes here. I'm leaving
this at no because if I change it to yes, it changes colors. Uh, Labor Day is staying on uh October or sorry, Labor Day September 6th.
And then our holidays for October. This is where we're going to have some changes. D, um, can you be in this thing to write the change in? >> Yeah, I got it. Okay. So, end of the
first nine weeks, we are changing to October the 8th. And and you guys, you're good with proposing that the work day is on the 12th. >> Yeah. The 11th
is is right, Lindy. Hold on. You are >> I think I have it listed under September even though it's October. >> Something didn't look right. >> Wait, go to your the tab at the bottom. You're in the wrong.
So I think your Labor Day is really 96 and your >> Yeah. >> The poor really belongs in the October bunch, but >> yeah, that's >> and then this comes down into October. Um,
so we would have October the 11th as that day off uh for the fall holiday and then the So I'm going to D's putting it in now so we can see
>> the first >> nine weeks. >> You're back in the 25 26 school year. >> You're in the wrong year now. >> I am again. Darn it. Thank you. I thought when I saw the scratchroughs that I was in the right place. All
right. So, end of the first nine weeks, I'm going to put a yes here for a change. And we are going to I'm gonna write it out here. Are you writing it somewhere, Deian? I don't know.
>> I I put it in already. I'm sorry. I was typing at the same time. Why don't I >> I think you're in the wrong year. >> 27 28. >> Oh, goodness gracious. I know why. You are in our labor relations folder. We had made a new folder where for everybody.
>> Okay, >> hold on. >> Yeah, I'm putting in the chat. Okie dokie. All righty. So, I can stop tapping. I'm going to the right ear and He is on it as you can see. All
right. So, October, we're moving to October 8th. The duty day will go to October 12th and we'll have the 11th off in between and the beginning of the new nine weeks. This would be
the 13th. So, if we go look at and I'm getting rid of that one because I'll write in it and it won't matter. November, we will change the um the date should work the same for
trimester and duty day on the 11th which would still get us in with Veterans Day. Does that work guys? Or and we've got election day there. D is it election day too? It's one or the other.
>> All right. We need to clarify that. >> Well, it depends which year you're in. So, in 28 it'll be election day and not Veterans Day. >> All right. Um and Veterans Day is is observed and we're
doing the PD day at the same time for it and keeping Thanksgiving break for the entire week. We'll add Thanksgiving break there. December would stay the same, guys.
End of the nine weeks on the 17th with winter break going. Nothing else there. So, you guys good with that? >> Yeah. >> Nobody. Good deal. Thank you. So then we move on into January
and no major changes for January at all. PD days starting that one's a nice nice two weeks. It's a good clean break for for the winter break and starting the uh next uh semester
and with our natural holiday. So then if we're looking at February, no elementary issues again with February having 54 um days for that second trimester.
>> Okay. >> Yeah. Then we are looking at changing spring break up to the 13th through the 17th, which would
mean the end of the third nine weeks would be March 10th. Get on that page. There you go. So February is good and D is doing a change for the end of the third nine weeks for March and changing spring
break. >> When is that PD date? that PD day will be on March the um 20th and the 21st would start the beginning of the fourth
nine weeks. >> Wait, that was the 21st. Wait, 21st. >> 21st is the first day of the >> Okay. fourth nine weeks and then April has one holiday in it for Good Friday and
May only has Memorial Day with students ending on that Friday the 2nd or sorry teachers ending on Friday the of students on Thursday.
So, anything for changing April, May or June? If we got all of that, then we have a calendar that we think we can agree to. I will have uh D will update the one that has the dates and all on it so you
can see it and we'll send it to you uh just so that you can kind of have it in front of you and look at it and then I'll do like a a cons um consent post poll to say hey I agree with this one I'm good or or I still
have an issue with just so that we can kind of get everyone's opinion and make sure that you know I didn't just rush us through it. But, uh, we learned a lot the last time we were here and we're able to go through. Um, I I wanted De to
be able to take us through the second year calendar. She's got the choices and those types of things. Uh, I am selfishly doing that because this is my last year before retirement. So, I am not going to be around when you guys do this again and I want her to have the
experience. So, I'm going to stop sharing and let D take over for sharing and take us through the second calendar year. Any questions while she's setting up her screen?
>> Nope. Okay. >> So, for 2829, we do have two drafts. Okay. this this year was a little different in the sense that um we didn't need to have just one because we weren't starting on
Friday the 13th. Um we have Independence Day that falls on Tuesday the 4th. So we'll observe it on Tuesday the 4th. Um then we have our 10-hour work days. Can you guys see? Is it too Is it bigger?
>> I go a little larger. I say it looks big on my screen, but I just looked at the um Wait, that was too big. All right, so now that takes us through to August. That first week of August will be a
10-hour work day. Um followed by preschool for teachers the week of the 7th through the 11th with this draft students starting on the 14th. So they start naturally on a Monday and then that Tuesday the 22nd is scheduled for
elections. So we you know we're the mindset we don't want other individuals on our campuses when students are around. So we have that date scheduled as a holiday. Um with also September we have several
holidays that we have observed in the past which is the federal holiday for Labor Day but then we also have Rashashana and Yamapour on the 20th and the 29th. Now, I want you to pay close attention
to the days of the quarters and how they're divided and of the trimesters because this is where I'm going to need strong input to shift the dates where necessary. So, we have the first quarter ending on
Friday the 13th. We love Friday the 13th, huh? That would give that first quarter 41 days with that PD being being on October 16th and then the end of the first trimester
would be Tuesday, November 7th, giving us 56 days. Um, and the reason why we have it scheduled for Tuesday is that will allow us to get Veterans Day in as well. observe veteran day since we need to
naturally have a PD day. Then we have um moving into December. Are we good so far? Am I talking too fast? >> Okay. >> I think once we see the comparison for what the other calendar does, we'll make you know given options.
Um the second quarter does have 43 days. That has us ending on December 22nd and then the holiday break will start that Saturday the 23rd which would take us into January. that PD day would get be would be
December um January 8th, the third nine weeks starting on January 9th and then we're moving into February. February would end us with 63 days for
the second trimester PD day February 28th. This spring break has us moving into October March 19th. That would end the third nine weeks with 47 days. And then the PD day being March 26,
starting again on March 27th. >> That puts not being off on Good Friday, >> right, >> Paul? So, do we want to have a conversation about moving spring break for the same reason we talked about moving it for next year? >> Yeah. And I think since there's two
different calendar options, >> I was going to say it's on the option two. I I have it for the following week on option two >> because >> I was thinking earlier. >> You were thinking earlier. Okay. >> Because again, the
May is eaten up with testing, right? So, I would personally think that, you know, moving some of the third peri third quarter days into the fourth quarter so that teachers have more instructional
time and grading content for the fourth quarter would make sense, but that's just me. >> Okay, >> Paul. >> Sorry, I was put down. >> Okay. All right. I thought you had the ding again. Okay, so that's a consideration. Anybody else want to pipe
in? >> Let's go ahead and see what the other calendar does so that they can kind of decide which one they want to work off of and start from. >> Okay, good idea. Um, then we've got no holidays in April.
We've got Memorial Day in May, May 28th. We are then ending the year the students last day on Friday, June 1st and then the teacher work day would be Monday, June 4th. And that would put us at 179
days. Now I'm going to shift over to option two. Again, this also has us observing the fourth on the fourth. >> Can you go? Yeah. Thanks. >> Yep. The fourth on the 4th preschool is um
broken up into two weeks for teachers with students starting on the 10th which is the first day they can start back and then we have that election day on the 2nd I mean the 22nd. Yeah. So, I think talking this one
through, uh, principal, are are you what are you thinking? Oh, first, Carrie. Um, I'm thinking that if you start the I don't think you can start the teachers on the third because and just looking at
the calendar, it looks like the third falls into their last pay period of the following from the following year. If I'm looking at the calendar right, it looks like that last pay period from the following year would be
the 724 to 86. Um, so I'm not sure if we'll be able to do that. And Nancy, do you have the other calendar up there to double check what I'm seeing?
No, maybe she's not on. All right. So, um, that's just what it looks like to me because it looks >> I'm on. I'm looking. I'm looking. Give me one second. >> Yes. They're Yes. That pay date for their last check would be on 84.
>> Yeah. And then >> correct. So, we would have to shift it to the 11th or 12th, not the 10th. >> Sorry, I didn't catch that. >> Which means that students would again, we would have a Friday start date. >> Right. Right. You'd have to have the Friday start. >> So, the first draft has it starting on
the 14th. >> So, that kind of takes out this one to begin with. >> Yeah. Sorry about that. >> Yeah. Sorry. Well, I just happened to notice that. >> Good catch, Carrie. >> And then it's also would be for the 190 MTS as well. So, I think yeah, that was
going to be a problem. >> All right. So, if you go back to your >> go back to the first draft >> and then let's make edits from it. >> I I did not think principles you would really want to split a the preschool
either to have like Thursday, Friday, Monday, Tuesday. that that would just and have students start in the middle of the week wasn't going to be favorable either, but we we're wanting options for you. >> All right, D, go.
>> All right, so we're back to the first draft because we're not going to start kids off on a Friday and then we can't to split this teachers up for their preschool. We can have them come back on a Friday. Just doesn't make a lot of sense. Um, this draft again has them
starting on the 14th. The teachers will have a full week for planning. I need Okay, >> have a good one. >> Thank you, Brent. We have that election
on October 22nd and then we have all of our fall holidays that we observe routinely observed. And then we're moving into October again. That first quarter is 41 days
with the first trimester with 56. And that means we'll have a PD day on October the 16th. How does that look so far for the first quarter? >> Would you rather first quarter be 46
days and go a week later? I'm kind of seeing >> I like this break. >> Say that again. I like the break that you have here. >> All right. So, 41 days is a good >> What is going on with this thing? >> I know. That's what I was fighting with, too.
>> This is annoying. Okay, there it goes. Um, so we'll go with that. We have then the first trimester ending on November 7th. Keeping in mind that
Veterans Day is on the 10th. So, we could potentially move the first trimester in order to be able to observe Veterans Day on the 10th, >> but I think the 7th is election day,
>> but the 7th isn't election day, >> which we usually don't like the students on campus with the public. >> Yep. >> Right. >> Yep. So, that's why we didn't put it on there. That's right. We had this conversation. Um then we have the first the second
quarter ending on the 22nd. That'll give the second quarter 43 days. It's a later time of the year. So we don't come back until the students don't come back until January 9th with that PD
day being January 8th. And um how do we feel about that? The only other option would be to break up the two weeks and not have two full weeks. Okay. I saw some head shaking. No. All right.
And then we have that um holiday on January 15th. We're looking into February. We've got 63 days for the second trimester. And then we're looking at March that
ends the third quarter at 47 days just before spring break on the 16th. But now you're saying that we should look at this and move it spring break earlier to the 12th. >> I was just floating the idea for the
same reason we moved the last year. So, how does that how does everybody else feel about that? >> I say academics gets to decide. >> Yeah. How does that Paul, how does that impact? I know that we're generally
testing with the alternate test assessment at that time and like WEDA goes the access goes up until that time. Do we have those dates for this year? >> We don't, but those windows are so long, we should
be able to work around it one way or the other. >> Guys, keep talking about it. I'll just double check and make sure they don't have preliminary dates out. >> Okay. Now, we don't have any um recognized holidays or spring holidays in April.
We have one holiday memorial day in May with students ending their last day on Friday, June 1st and teacher work day on June 4th. That'll have that last quarter at 48 days. >> When is Good Friday?
>> And I was going to get to that. So the thing is Good Friday is March the 30th, but if we move spring break later in the year in order to capture Good Friday, then that makes that fourth quarter even
shorter, which is where as we're hearing right now. Um it's already short enough. My um recommendation would be to to the same as Paul's to move spring break up
to Mar the week of March 12th with the 19th being the work day and then also having Good Friday off on the 30th. >> If we also put Good Friday off, that means students would have to end on
Monday and just come in on Monday the 4th for it to be 179 days. I think that we've had we've always had good Friday off. Correct. And I think >> able to observe it when we've had it
during spring break or um a shorter week as we've looked at other years past. And that's why draft two had us with spring break that following week starting the 26th to capture um Good Friday as well. But if we were to add
that as an additional holiday, then students would have to come back that one day on the 4th with teachers ending on the 5th. So this is a committee conversation. And it may just be what it is that you know you that's our last day of the
uh of the school year because we have to have 179 days in. Um >> so the consequence of moving spring break to 26 through 30 is the kids would have to come in the fourth with the teacher work day on the 5th in June.
>> No. If we moves spring break forward to the 26 that just makes the fourth quarter shorter by >> by five day four days. >> So the consequence if we have to add the Good Friday and that's when the extra day comes for the kids coming in that Monday. >> We'll have to come on Monday
>> and we have done that and there has been a last student day on a Monday. I don't know how the attendance ended up being for those students, but we have had that at least once since I've remembered the calendar. I just don't know if the if the kids shop. >> Yeah. And the only other way to avoid it
is if we did not have you if we found another holiday not to observe uh and we replaced it. uh we we can't take away, you know, that's >> we can't remove the federal holidays and
then we have the election days. Um one in August and one again in November. >> We're not doing Veterans Day that year. >> What is the election on August 22nd?
That's the um primaries for the primary primary elections. >> Let's look at those third quarter the January, February, March dates. >> And with it, we only have uh Martin Luther King Day, which is one of our
federal days. We have nothing in February other than >> Looks like we got that 28th, right? >> But that's work day. >> Yeah. >> What's the
>> Sorry. What's the con for having the students and teachers come back on that Monday >> in June? You're saying the June Monday? >> Monday? >> Yes. Um, again, I'm not in the classroom, so sorry about this. U, my understanding is the students don't
necessarily come anyway. Would anyone be testing on that Monday? What's the con? >> Low attendance. >> Yeah. Uh Corey, if you are or had exams
for your end of the year exams and the last student day was a Monday, would that be one of your natural exam days? >> Yes. >> So then you would be using Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Monday
as your exam days. >> Yes. So that's going to dictate attendance by having exams for the high schools for those that are still not seniors and are taking them as well. And being the last teacher day on the
5th isn't going to take our calendar year out very far. >> And for the high schools, it's only a half a day for the exam day, >> right? So, elementary and middle, what do you guys think about student attend last day
student attendance on the 4th, which is a Monday? >> I don't I don't think it really impacts us that largely because we don't have the same exams and it'll just be an attendance low day. Um, you know, I'm I don't know if that's the better option
or moving that, you know, if you move spring break to the following week, then you capture your Good Friday automatically and your teacher work day then becomes April 2nd, which I'm assuming that's that's Easter, right? The the first is Easter, >> right?
>> No, Easter's later that year. Um, okay. It's on >> No, that's Good Friday's on the 30th. That's why we're talking about this. >> Hold on one second. >> So, that kind of on the first >> that kind of hits the Good Friday day off and a teacher work day phone that
holiday >> you can get if you move spring break back a that's going to make uh >> it's going to put us at 52 days for the third quarter though >> it will
I think that's a really long stretch >> and for from my point of view I think Good Friday is more important to have off then than than the concern about having the Monday of a school for school.
>> So, Kim, are you in favor of moving spring break up to the 12th through the 16th and then having Friday the 30th off? Is that what I'm hearing? >> Yes. And then moving the end of this
year, students last day on Friday, June 4th, and then teachers last day on the 5th. >> Yes. Moving the last day of school to Monday. >> Students Monday, teachers Tuesday.
>> Okay. I see a lot of agree people in agreement. That's probably the better option then. >> Yeah, it would be nice if it wasn't such a long nine weeks to move spring break to the same week,
but that is a long time. >> Right. >> I mean, the fourth nine weeks ends up being pretty long, but again, so much of that last month is lost to testing. I I I don't know. again just feel like instructionally speaking it makes sense
for that to be longer. >> I mean we're really gaining five days but losing four on the back end minimum for exams. >> So that puts us at a you know two-day discrepancy which I I don't think is any problem at all. >> Okay. All right. Looks like we um
looks like we have everything covered. Let's go to our log. Oh, Freddy. >> So, I had a medical emergency on campus, so I missed the last probably 15 minutes, but from what I see, if you could scroll down just a little bit. I have a question. >> Okay.
>> One of the things that it would be such a long time without any without any respit. Was that discussed? >> From a secondary standpoint, April and May are quite long months. So, I'm just wondering if we're already ending on a Monday, does it behoove us to do
anything in the middle there >> like an extra holiday? >> Correct. >> I tried that our first year doing this and executive cabinet was not in favor of a day just for a day and they took it away from me and placed it somewhere
else. Um, >> the problem with it, and I'm going to speak from from a secondary standpoint, is if you don't give it, they're going to take it anyway. Um, and when you have a holiday built in, then it builds in not it builds in having that continuity
because people get the holiday, so then they don't take the day before and after the holiday off because it's built in there. So, that's just a point to make to them. And the conversation, Philip, was to move spring break up a week and
to add in the 30th for uh Good Friday. So March the 30th would be off for Good Friday. >> Then you'd have April and May kind of >> Yeah. And I think that's what we're kind of looking at is that's so close that that that's not when the the days they
were they they need kind of trying to find something in that you know what are we looking at a >> nineweek window to try to find something populated in there. All right. So, let's go ahead. Dan, do you want want me to put in the
dates or so I don't toggle back and forth? >> Yeah. Um, I can do it. I'm on the same one you're on. Uh, but I think they only made a change for spring break. But >> yep, >> spring break. Moving it.
>> Well, let's just go July down. Make sure >> we're July. July remains the same. No change. Independence Day remains the same. Preschool for teachers. Preschool for teachers would be the week
of um the 7th. >> Correct. >> Yeah, those dates aren't right. Might have been when we're toggling between um dates. So, we're going with draft one.
You gave me view only access. >> Hi the >> I'm not gone yet. Come on now. >> Oh my goodness. Don't say that. Okay. You got it now. All right.
Where are we at? Excuse me. Um, first day of school for students. We're putting that to um August 14th. The election day is August 22nd.
>> All right. That's not here at all. Okay, I just added it. >> Oh, I think we both did. >> Oh, >> we'll we'll polish it up for everybody. >> Keep going. >> All right. Um, September remains the
same. So we have Labor Day on the 4th, Yam Kapor on the 29th, but then we also have we got to add the 20th for on September
9:20 is Rashashana. But those days from our calendar remain unchanged. So we can add that. >> Okay. >> Clean up the spreadsheet. Um October remains the same.
Nothing there has changed. November I'm looking scroll down a little bit. Um nothing has changed there. Okay, those dates are good. Uh, we're going to begin the third the second nine weeks
10:17 in October. October 17th. >> D, you've lost me. >> You went from October to >> the October. It'll be October 17th for the beginning of the second nine weeks,
not the 19th. >> Okay. And then >> we're not seeing the changes just so you know on what you're presenting. >> Yeah. >> All of you are going to have access to view. So once we update and cross
reference all the dates that way we don't keep you long than longer than we have to. I'll make sure I cross reference all the dates. Really the only change if we want to just go to March would be bringing March up. And you're the one sharing your screen.
So going to March for them to see it. >> No, I'm telling you to go to March. Sorry. >> For the change. >> Okay. Spring break. Spring break is changing recommended change to begin March 12th
through the 16th and then ending the third nine weeks March 9th with the PD day on March 19th and observing Good Friday,
Friday the 30th. Okay. >> And then um the final change would be down in June, the last day for students.
We're shifting that to Monday, June 4th, and the teacher work day on June 5th. I'm going to drop the link to this calendar folder in the chat,
but I'm also going to go back and just make sure that all of the dates are correct. And all the changes are done to the drafts on the calendar as well on the um as well as on the spreadsheets. >> Would you mind adding it to the um calendar invite because it'll disappear
from >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It kind of disappears. >> All right. So, our next steps will be we'll put together um a calendar that shows the changes and exactly what you
guys uh selected and then um do I'll do a poll just to make sure we've got everybody any feedback, anything else that somebody might have thought about in between because we did do go through two calendars in less than an hour and a
half with technology issues. So, uh, that part is good. I'll make sure that you guys are in agreement. Then we'll get on the, um, calendar for executive cabinet to present the calendar. I'll present it to
executive cabinet and get their feedback. Remember last time we got some feedback from them and I had I sent out an update to you guys in an email letting you know, here's what they had requested. uh then we'll take it before the board for them to look at it as
well. But uh I I think you guys have this down pat for uh getting through uh what we need to do and making it uh seamless. I appreciate your time. And our PowerPoint said next meeting, but
I'm not sure we need one. Uh, I think we'll be able to do the update and all in an email and do the poll vote in a quick email as well, just to make sure we've got people in consensus for uh, both calendars and nothing else has popped into your head that we might not
have considered. If we do have some things that may not have been considered, uh, we will, uh, call another meeting. Uh I do ask we'll make sure that our calendars have draft on them but knowing that they still need to go through executive cabinet and to the
board that they are not something that we disseminate to others until we have them approved by the board. So it's uh just our recommendation at this point. It is not official until it is board approved.
Any questions or feedback guys? Thank you very much. Appreciate it. It was good use of our time. >> Diane, could you stay on? I just have something two things at the end. >> Absolutely. >> Have a good one, everyone. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you, guys. Good job. Hey, >> two minutes early. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. Thanks, guys.