Everyone, we'll get moving here. Darthy will start us off for attendance. Darothy Banisheski, facilities construction. James Al Cork. Michael Guuit, Cork. Polyhan, Office of the General Council. Michael Tubio, facilities construction.
David Porter, Cork. Barbara Myers, Construction Purchasing. France Makabu, Cork. David, over here corner, gentlemen. Or Canyon, uh, facilities construction. David Brooks, facilities construction. John Levenson, Real Enterprises,
representing Wharton Smith and Cisco Vic Architects. Bob Bliss, school district's office of instructor general. James Campbell, chief operating officer, uh, Verex Construction, Chance F, facilities construction. Ben Gella, Pardle Construction. Jacob Catz, Purdle
Construction. Ted Cava, core construction. Okay, Darthy, go ahead. We have Bruce Alexander, present. Good morning everyone. Morning John Chesher. John Chesher. Cork. Kevin Wilkinson.
Good morning. Kevin Wilkinson. Present. Michael Galand. Present. Virginia Ferris. I'm present. Morning. And we have Joe Sanchez on the line. Hey, good morning. Everyone.
And it looks like Miss Branch, Gloria Branch just joined us. Good morning. Good morning. Okay, Brianna Walker with the Wise Company. Okay. Uh, thank you everyone. Um, I have nothing to report going down our agenda.
Anyone for court today with a conflict of interest or been approached by a lobbyist for anything we're going to review? I just want to let folks know that I will be leaving sometime after 9:45. So if you do have a tight quorum
right now, we're good. We should be good. You were cutting in and out with your audio, Michael. No one's ever not hearing me, but that's okay. Thank you. All right, we have no conflicts in their lobbyist issues. Anyone with changes to
the agenda? All right. Any public comments? Seeing none, let's go on to consent agenda. FC1. [Music] Okay. I also wanted
that [Music] FC2 er. Okay. I I wanted the FC2 pulled. FC3
FC4 I wanted that pulled. Anyone else? Grand [Music] PC1 DC2 in Virginia. Okay. Michael, did you pull that? Yeah, I am calling it too. Yep. Three people.
Okay. PC3. I asked I asked for that one to be pulled also. We got you. Michael, we have you, Michael. PC3. [Music] PC4. I wanted that one
pulled. PC5. I also wanted it pulled. Guido, PC6, [Music] PC7, [Music] PC8, there. Got it.
PC9. I also wanted that. [Music] Okay, Virginia, you're up. Okay, I move the items not pulled to go forward on the consent agenda. Okay,
need a second on that. A second it. Okay, second by France. Go ahead, Dorothy. Alexander, yes. David Porter, yes. France Makaboo, yes. Jim Al, yes.
John Chesher, yes. Kevin Wilkinson, yes. Michael Gelfand, yes. Michael Guida, yes. Tom Burgerer, yes. Virginia Ferris, yes. Okay. Okay. FC1 Michael Gelfan and
I pulled that. Go ahead, Michael. You can go first, please. That Okay, I will. Um, first of all, I applaud uh BCS for now hiring an ADA specialist to basically focus on that. We probably
needed that for years, but I'm glad we've got that now. And that should help with minimizing, I think, you know, change orders as we see things happening. And also, not every architect understands the right way to design for
ADA. So, um that'll be another good set of eyes to uh look at things. Yes. So, we had um Heath Thomas was our ADA coordinator, but he also coordinated fire alarms and three or four different other things. So, when he passed away, we had a gap a void there. Um and then
Angel Garcia took over as our ADA coordinator. So, Oh, Angel's that now? Yep. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's very helpful. Um a lot of projects, but um he's stepped right in and it's been very helpful. So, I think I chose the district's proactivity towards making
sure that we get into ADA compliance. I mean, it's a shame it's taken since 1990 when the ADA went into effect, but better late than never. Um, the other com question I had on item two of the responses, somebody said potentially the
item was on the blue sheet. What's the blue sheet? So the blue sheet is the um public approved items that are in the referendum from 2016. Um they were published um to the public of the things that we're want to
accomplish with the referendum. So um that means it was always part of the project. I understand. But I've never heard the term blue sheet. It's a because they're blue and that's our sheet that we reference internal. That's an internal term for all this stuff. I would say next time just say it was part of the referendum. Yeah. And if you go
to the district, if anybody wants to know, if you go to the district website, you can find it under the penny sales tax. It has all that referendum list in in their blue, but you can see what those are. So, all right. But noted. Yeah. Okay. Um, Michael, go ahead. On uh
number three, the Pokei Middle School, how many windows had that problem with the window sills? Oh, the different depths that were necessary, right? I mean, at least three. I'm just wondering the amount and
what happened. I don't know off hand there. Um, I don't think it was a ton because it's, you know, $1,800 for that PCA. But I can I can follow back up if you'd like with the number of windows.
All right. Because I'm just uh wondering what happened that cause those to be retrofitted as opposed to in other place schools where we areing or repairing windows. Just seems to be an odd issue to to pop up.
Is Joseph on the line? Morning sir. I just turned on my laptop and I connected. What was the question with uh reference to the window sill modifications? Um how many did we have
and why did this become an issue right now? Um because as I recall that's not a a an ancient school should be standardized. Can I check and I will back to you in a minute. Yeah, Joseph that was I don't want to
give wrong number. That was CCUA number eight for middle senior. Okay. All right. I will check it then I will back to you in a minute. I have a question. I mean, could it be that the window sill heights were too high? And I know schoolboard
requirements have to have them at a certain height in order for kids to escape out of the windows. Is that I don't think that's you. No, I think these are depths. Different wall thickness depths. I thought I read not height. Deeper sills. Deeper. Yeah. That means instead of a 3-in deep sill, the window was set further to the outside of
the wall. Now you need an 8 in deep sill. To me, it just seems like a field measurement by the architect that did the asbuilts didn't pick up that all the windows weren't in the same location within the wall. It happens.
[Music] Anything else, Michael? Yes. Um, I know that there was a followup on number four, Panther Run the Painting. Uh, just to confirm from those who have better knowledge than me, um,
is $2,100 appropriate for painting one wall? Well, it depends on how many coats were needed. I mean, if we're putting, you know, white over top of black or a dark color, you maybe need three coats and it depends on the square footage of the
wall and whether they came back to the job just to paint that wall and a lot of factors. the painter was already on the job. Then, you know, it should have been a quick, fast job. But the dining room's a big space, too. So, it wasn't just a mural wall or the
mural wall was very large. I don't know the exact square footage, but it was just the mural wall. Um, so that that wall had that construction. Instead of being able to repair the wall, which would have probably been, I
don't know, closer to $10,000 to repaint that, um, the principal chose to just paint the wall standard. So, it was a primer and two coats. Okay. Yeah. I don't think that's outrageous, Michael. I did. That's why I didn't pull
it. All right. No further questions. Thank you. All right. Anything else on FC1? Someone want to make a motion. Can I answer the question, Michael? Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Thank you. Yeah, it was total 83
window seals and uh the difference is 19th of them are you know in our scope of work 6 in. But when we found out it should be 9
in and 33 of them uh changed to 6 in to 14 in and 11 of them are 6 in to 17 in. All of them calculated as 6 in which is 83 number 83 and three different
dimensions we need to uh follow up. [Music] All right. And this is the price difference. Yeah. For that many window sills that's a good number.
Yeah. 83. All righty. Thank you. Thank you. Move it to go forward. Okay. Yeah. If if I may. Old building like that, you're going to face these conditions. It's exactly what's expected.
Yes. I need a second. I'll second. Second by Mike Qua. Any other discussion or comments? Darthy Polus, please. Bruce Alexander. Yes. David Porter. Yes. France Makaboo.
Yes. James Al. Yes. John Chesher, yes. Kevin Wilkinson, yes. Michael Galand, yes. Michael Guido, yes. Tom Burgerer, yes. Virginia Ferris, yes.
Okay. FC2, I was the only one who pulled that. Um, my question is, what was the reasoning that it's taken six months to get a test and balance report? From the response that we got back, that's kind of the math that I worked
out. That seems kind of excessive for a TMD report. Under the responses that we got back, said test and balance conducted October 20 and 2022 and submitted to BCS April of
23 and then wasn't accepted by BCS until July of 23. Okay, James Frell is on the line. Um, yeah, so we had an issue with with one of the VAVS and and one of the pro the
lead times for some some of the items were delayed. So, it took a while to actually get that portion of the system approved for the TNB. So it was basically parts that needed to be ordered after the fact to get us back
into to get us balanced to be able to have the report finalized. So it was an equipment issue, not a test and balance processing problem. Correct. The system was functioning pretty much fine except for obviously with this heating element,
you know, to to to pass for the TN. Okay, that's that's accepted. I apologize. you you did ask that question and we did provide a response but I didn't get on this. [Music] Okay, no problem. I don't have anything
else on FC2. Someone make a motion [Music] please forward. Motion by Mike Kuita, second by Virginia. Any other comments or questions? Paul was Darthy, please. Bruce Alexander. Yes. David Porter. Yes.
France Makaboo. Yes. James Al. Yes. John Chesher. Yes, Evan Wilkinson. Yes, Michael Galand. Yes, Michael Guida. Yes, Tom Burgerer. Sorry, I thought I hit the wrong button.
Yes, Virginia Ferris. Yes. Okay. FC4 Michael Gelfin and I pulled it. Michael, you can go. So, I saw the followup, but I still don't understand why we're putting uh
parking lot on wetlands. So, the the driver here is the circulation. Um right now, that school backs up onto the main road um and causes a lot of traffic problems. So, we're adding another entrance on the south side. Um and by doing so, we're
taking out some of the wetlands. Um and um there's we're adding some parking there, but that's kind of secondary to the traffic uh mitigation that we're doing. So, it's it's um that's what's causing the the wetlands. That's the only spot that we have on the site to be able to do that.
And is there a reason why that wasn't caught in the planning stage or was it? This was a I don't know when this school was built. It was an old school that um they've been having problems for a while now. So, um, so is this the only work we're doing there? Yes, it's a
standalone We are doing other work, but not related to this. We're doing a standalone parking lot project where we're adding the entrance and a parking lot on the south side. Yeah, that's a standalone project. Okay. So, this is not like we're demolishing a whole school and building up a whole new school and now putting in a driveway
that's going through wetlands. No, no, but it's existing school. Um they it's just to mitigate the traffic issues that are really bad and I suppose alternatives were studied but there were no alternatives available. Yeah, it's a very very tight site with a lot of
traffic, a lot of students there. We've got a lot of modulars there. Um so it it's a very big campus in a very small space. Okay, that took care of my questions. Michael, anything else? Yes. uh with reference to the mitig mitigation agreement uh the contract for
sale and purchase of credits um is you know this is a highly specialized area someone with an expertise to look at this I'm particularly concerned with the assumptions of risk by the district
uh and the disclaimers that are throughout this Should this be looked at by outside council who has an expertise in this area? [Music]
Is that something for you to answer, Holly? No, I don't know. I mean, number one, we have an attorney in our office that would review those. Typically, I believe those type of matters come in through Miss Garrison's department. Um,
so unfortunately I don't have a response as to whether or not the agreement has been reviewed by legal. It's been reviewed. Um, it's been reviewed by our civil engineer also. Um, I don't know if there's a specific concern to one of the clauses in there
or just in general, but it was reviewed by by legal. Um I have my dithers on this because of the substantial uh uh limitations and warnings in this agreement. Uh there's a number of
provisions in here that I've just highlighted going through um including on page three of nine uh where they speak of P purchaser assumes the risk of whether a third party will honor the
request for the withdrawal of credits uh and in essence releases the seller. In paragraph five on the following page, uh it references the use is limited to the seller's ERP, uh which is not part of this at all. Um
there's on page five there's a confidentiality reserved statement without any further um explanation. just, you know, uh those are my three right off the bat. Um I'm
going to suggest that um the district review this and bring in someone that has an expertise in these mitigation issues and review this to consume confirm that this is appropriate and so that we actually understand what the
risks are and what followup we need to make with this third party that's supposed to be undertaking mitigation. Mr. Gelfan for clarification. Um there is a legal checklist attached to this agreement. So uh Miss Vara Garcia um and
she has reviewed that and I believe she's on the chat. Um she just chatted me but it has been reviewed um for legal sufficiency on our by our office. Um let's see. So the chat that Miss Garcia
just sent me. It says, "I reviewed the agreement and a lot of those questions were left up to the department as a business decision because there were a lot of unknowns." Um, I'm not sure if that addresses your concerns. Um, it it it sends up a number of
rockets, so I'm going to vote no on this one. You can pull it and refer it back to staff to come back later. Um, but you know, I I appreciate and congratulate
the attorney that reviewed that did identify and send it back up that there's a lot of risks and unknowns. Um, I don't this is the first I've seen of this type of agreement with the district uh ever and I don't know
that we have the internal ability to effectively review this. I've had some clients that have been involved with buying and selling uh you know water and retention rights and all and um I've stepped aside in some parts of that
because of the complexity. So that's my reason. Thank you. Miss Var Garcia I believe is on the meeting. Um Mr. Gelfin, do you have a specific question that you would like her to address?
uh what's your expertise in reviewing these matters first and what are the unknown risks? So this was a matter of first impression for myself as well. Um but again we did have meetings internally with our team
and um with the outside company that was um working with facilities management on this and we did discuss a number of those concerns and again I left those up to business decisions for the department because there were a number of issues
that um you know in discussing with AECOM and discussing with our team internally uh were were risks that you know Unfortunately, they, you know, they were indicating they had to take in order to get this project done.
I might ask a question. Yes. Um, is the uh have we has the school district received the credits already or is this underway or where where does this stand? So, this would go to the board and once the board signs it, then we would receive the credits in my They haven't
they haven't done any of this yet. And is it going to delay the project if they don't? It wouldn't delay the pro. There's a there was a time limit. Um we don't know if they would still be available if we didn't execute execute it this month. I don't um there was some
indication that they wouldn't be past this point, but I don't know that to be sure. Um so if we don't take the credits, let's say in May, they may sell the credits to somebody else. Yes. And there's there's a discount through um we looked at different options and the
other option I think directly from the county or somebody like that was substantially more expensive than this one. This is a I don't know all the details of this. [Music] How how big is a 1.38 credit? Is that
like in acres or is that what are they buying wetland rights of a certain area? So they have to what they do is they Yeah. So they have to um somebody has to build wet land somewhere else and it's usually a public entity like the county
or something like that that has parks that can do that. Um but it's become a honestly it's become a business by some people to buy and sell these credits right to um of for developers. So um it is very complicated like Mr. Gelfan said
um but there's a M runs the review of it through the county of if you're taking down wetlands depend on how much you take down you have to replace that or buy somewhere else. So we're not in the opportunity to replace wetlands anywhere else. We don't have land to do that. So we have to buy the credits from them. So
if I may it is acres. What's that? 1.388 acres. It is acres. Okay. Yes. If I may, this has become pretty standard in the industry to to buy these credits and to obtain these credits. I think Tetrate Tech is not going to take responsibility
for obligations that the owner school district should take. Um, there's no way you're going to get a company like Tetrate Tech to take any liabilities that they're not willing to take. Kevin Wilkinson, hands up. Yes. I was
just wondering um I'm totally out of my uh comfort zone on this issue, but is there ever a process where the school board having all kind of acreage all all over the place can just replace the wetlands under some kind of program rather than paying vigorous or buying
these credits? Is there is there places in where where the school board just says, "Okay, we can we we can substitute uh wetlands and in fact make to their specifications wetlands instead of paying, you know, tons of money.
Yeah, we don't really have a land bank. Our our land banks are are designated for projects. Um the the state has actually can come and um charter schools can take that land if we have it just sitting there doing nothing. So, we don't really have like a a vast parks or
anything like that that we can go do that on. And although all of our properties are pretty full like this one, um we just don't have the land to even consider that. Um nor the expertise to do that kind of work. Okay. So there's no school there's no school facility that has way more acreage than
it should have had if it was designed today and you can just slam 1.3 acres of wetlands and create it on that facil in an existing facility as a substitute rather than paying money. Not that I'm aware of. Um
okay thank you Tom Burgerer. Who have we talked to that has done this before? David, do you have any insight? So, our It's done all the time. No, I know that, but I mean, who we who have we talked to?
Um, our civil engineer uh led the charge. So, they're the one on the project. Um, Jeff Trumper, who does work all over the the county, um, and they've been advising us along the way of uh through this process. Um, like you you know where Sunrise Park is,
right? Yes. Okay. Sunrise Park is right next to a mitigation bank. It's the Lockah Hatchee Mitigation Bank. That mitigation bank was set up probably with GL Homes. I'm not positive, but I do believe it
was also set up with the South Florida Water Management District. They It was a piece of property that had a lot of issues in the past because it was farmland at one time. um you may want to touch base with them and see what kind of issues they've had
regarding taking liabilities. Okay. Well, this documentation also says this is also the Lockxahhatche Mitigation Bank. that that that's what they're the Lockxy Hatchee Mitigation Bank is an extension of land that goes from Satnia, the
neighborhood essentially to um god I can't think the federal it goes way up past Lantana and further than that. It's a huge piece of land and it's done for that purpose.
take the credit. They found out that the little credits that were being done for preserves in little areas weren't making any difference. And so they've taken this big chunk of land and is are asking for credits. But the same the same lands
have had these issues before. The land that we're getting rid of is is that's the mitigation bank or that's what we're purchasing in. We're purchasing into the mitigation bank that the wetlands are on our property right now as what they deter. Yeah. Yeah. So I I'm not quite
sure why there would be any but check with them is my would be my suggestion. I think Joseph knows something too. Mr. Sanchez, you're I started talking and he went. I don't know a whole lot, but I I can tell you that, you know, when we were when we were growing tremendously.
We're adding, you know, several schools a year. Some of you guys have been around long enough to remember that. you know, we we went through this several times with properties that we were acquiring or were donated to us, whatever the case may be, and we had to purchase, you know, um these mitigation
rights in order to develop our properties and build schools on. It's it's been years since we've done it, but it's this is definitely not the first time for us. Um, you know, we can go back and and look at some of those past histories, but um, you know, I I I have
confidence in in Jeff Trumper and the team that has been advising us. I mean, he's been I'm sure he's done this for several of his clients before. I mean, I'm having problem having some additional conversations with people. I I I just hate to bring this back, you know, two months later and the price is
twice as much or we don't have an opportunity to do it at all. So, um, so I'd like to move forward with it. And, you know, we'll we'll have some conversations that you guys recommended and fill you in on any conversations that we've had and if there's anything that's kind of that blows this thing up,
you know, we have an opportunity to to withdraw it or back back away from it. But I I don't want to have, you know, the price increase tremendously um over the next couple of months because of additional review and then we end up back where we were where we are right now. That was my suggestion.
Who uh who proposed the contract here? Is this coming from We didn't draft the contract. So where's the contract coming from? Who gave us the contract to accept Petr? I'm not sure honestly. Maris, do you
know? Yeah. Yes. Good. Um, and just to add to what everyone's talking about now, um, initially without this 1.38 credits, um, for us to replace that wetlands area that we are going to build on would have
cost us roughly $1.7 million. Um, buying the 1.38 reduces that cost down to 379,000. So, um, when Kristen was talking about certain amounts of risk with us talking
with D Jeff Jeff Trumpeter, um, it seemed logical to us to save, um, over a million dollars to do this on our property. Um, so the contract came from Tetrate Tech and we routed it into
legal and we've had conversations back and forth. um to get it to where we thought we were comfort comfortable and it would be an acceptable risk to mitigate the issues that are over there for that school. So Tetrate Tech I guess
bought some of the mitigation land and now they are a private company basically selling off the rights to that land. Yes. And do they maintain that land to all FD standards and water management standards? Do we have any type of annual maintenance agreement we have to pay
into or this is a one-time payment that covers any future maintenance? This is this is a one-time agreement that covers the future maintenance. So, we're buying it. They'll take care of everything else. So, M monitors their bank to make sure that they comply with all the standards that
they need to follow. Okay. The county Yeah. So, we don't end up with any liability. somebody drowns in the lake or gets eaten by an alligator or whatever when they're walking along there, just because we own that little bit doesn't matter. Correct. Do we physically own the land that we're
buying? No, we we're just buying the right. We're we're buying the rights. So, okay. Um ultimately, we the way that arm has it now, if we take away the wetland, we have to reestablish it somewhere else. And what what we're
doing is saying instead of us reestablishing it um and the district being liable for it, we're going to buy it from you and you have all of the liability and then we can use our property the way that we see fit. The
land has been there forever and they're just selling credits in it for the maintenance. That's what the credit provide. Um, I tell you what, if you ever get a chance, go out there and walk around it. It's It's all swamp. It's all
It's all by you and it's there's nothing there. And there's It's amazing. Where is it at? The easiest The easiest access is lock uh what's it called? It's John Marshall
Lockahhatche Preserve in Buon. It's just outside of that. Well, I would think what's a $300,000 plus cost, you said? Yes. 379. Yeah. I mean, if we tried to develop 1.38 acres
and expand a lake or something that we've got at one of our schools, it would be double that cost just for the excavation uh project. So, okay. Anything else on this one? Well, is there a cost to construct the
new parking lot? What is that? Yes, but that was already budgeted, I believe. Right. That was previously reviewed by us. No, it hasn't come yet. Okay. So, it's a minor project. So, that um I don't know how we're going to procure that, Dorothy, but if it'll come It's Are we doing a CM or a It may come
through you. Um if it's through a one of our continuing contract CMS, it's not. Did we We didn't assign 2.587 2 million 587 is listed as the projected cost continuing contract. Yeah. I don't remember if we were doing a CM there or we it's a it's a CM. Okay.
So, the GMP wouldn't come to you guys under our it's our CCNA perk. So, gotcha. If I may, based on the legal review that's been done by Miss Hans's office, I'd like to make a motion to approve this item.
Need a second. I'm on one second. Second. Second. Second by Tom Burgerer. Any other comments, questions? Yes, I have a question. Um, at the bottom of page three of the agreement, [Music]
if you uh pulled right there, uh, the third line from the top of the screen that has at the end, purchaser assumes the risk of whether the third party will honor the request for the withdrawal of credits. Um what is that risk?
And well the risk question is what is that risk? I don't know the deposit that they're putting down on the the first sentence of the last paragraph. Is that something that came about? because we asked them to sign the
agreement before it went to the board which is not something that we typically do. Um that you so that may be part of that that because we haven't they're making a commitment to sell us that and we haven't approved it. It goes from obviously court to the board and then after the board we actually execute it.
So this is not an executed document by our end yet. So that I think that's the risk that um if it doesn't go forward um do we have an agreement with this third party? This is the agreement. No, this
isn't specifically says that it is not the agreement with the third party. I mean, this may may pass because of the fear of the unknown here. Um, but I would strongly suggest that if it does pass, you've got a week to get in
outside counsel to take a look and to confirm that we're okay. I mean, I could just be a chicken little on this. Um, but um there's just too many red flags for me. End of my comments. Okay, we had a first and a second,
didn't we? Yes. All right. Anything else on this? All right, Darthothy, poll us, please. Bruce Alexander. Yes. And if I can, I just want to express to everyone on screen that that having um had a number of years of representation
of multiple municipalities, counties, cities around Florida, and general contractors doing uh public work. and having had this issue turn up before, the types of terms that we're seeing seeing in this sales agreement are
consistent with those that I've seen over the decades. So, I'm voting yes on this, but certainly agree that um uh uh a final pass from um council um prior to
execution is is fine as Michael has suggested. I just wanted to provide input that this there's nothing I'm seeing here that's out of the range of what I've seen on many many similar deals um over the decades. Thank you.
He said yes Porter. Yes. France Makaboo. Yes. James Al. Yes. John Chesher. Yeah. I vote yes. And I have the same comments as Bruce Alexander did. seen many and many many of these and they're you don't have much negotiation
on them. They're just standard agreements. I vote yes. Kevin Wilkinson. No. No. Michael Galand? No. Michael Gua? Yes. Tom Burgerer? Yes.
Virginia Ferris. Um I'm going to vote yes based on the fact that that uh Mr. Sanchez says they'll do some more um looking into this. I appreciate everything that that Michael Gelfin has brought forward and because this is
something new to me. So I do appreciate that you will look into this further and protect the district. So it's I guess that's a qualified Yes. Okay, we will keep moving on. Do we need their summary of Michael? Do you want to provide your
brief dissenting comment so we can put it in the board report? Um, the agreement has not been reviewed by council with an experience or experience which the district does not have with these agreements. The
agreement uh and they've also identified many risks of evaluated from a business perspective, not from a legal perspective. and um the um the contract itself appears to rely on a third party uh and
some type of an agreement with them. Thank you. Got all that, Darthothy. Okay. All right. We're down to piece four. I was the only one to pull that. We need a another because there was two dissenting votes. So, do
we No, we just usually go with one. Okay. Yeah, totally. Just so the Yep. Dan's Y. Yeah. PC2. All right. PC4. I pulled a question. PC PC2. We did PC2. Ah, I skipped too. Yes.
Okay. This is Virginia. Yep. Um, it was very confusing the way it was written up. I just want to be sure that that what we're looking at here is creating a new parking lot, but we're making changes to
the present parking lot to accommodate it. Is that what this is? [Music] So, it's um adding to a park an existing parking lot. So, there is a parking lot that's there on the south side of the property. We're adding to it and then
making a connection to our other drive aisles. Right. That's that's what was so confusing. So the part with the plan, that's the new section that's to the south of the school or the south of the parking. Yeah. So there is already a
parking lot there. We're adding to it to increase the load in that parking lot. Okay. And so how how many parking lots does a school have now total? So good question. So Forest Hill is an extremely
tight site. So, um the this parking lot is the one that's right up against the golf course. We have a future project where we're expanding um east of the north south drive. I don't remember what road that is. Parker uh Parker um to add another parking lot um just because
they're so under under parked there. Um there's a maybe you can pull up an aerial, but there's um there's a main parking lot on the east side and then there's this basically two parking lots on the south that we're trying to
connect. Um it hard to describe with words, but we can show you here. Yeah, I'm familiar with the site and and going on back to that golf course and I've been promoting getting that eastern property turned into a parking lot for
years now and I'm wondering when that's going to happen and what will our total number of parking spots be? Yeah. So, as far as the east parking lot's concerned, um we put that on hold for a little bit um over the last year or so because we were doing a master plan for the entire
campus. So, we hired a firm to come through and master plan the campus about possibly if we can expand the campus even and fit more students because it's a it's a it's a great school. A lot of a lot of students want to go there. Um the the report came back that we just didn't have the room or to do that. So, the
board decided to not expand the campus, but in turn now we're going to go forward with that parking lot on the east side. So, that is in design right now. Um it will be coming to you guys at some point in the next um hopefully in the next four or five months or so. Um this parking lot that
we're talking about now is the one that Dorothy has on the screen there. So that's the existing lot and the all the way to the left that's the lot we're going to connect to. Um that which is by the the um football field, but there's a there's a heavy grade difference between the two lots.
you wouldn't think of it, but there's a a pretty good grade difference up to 5T, I think, at the one end. Um, but we're expanding this L-shaped lot around the golf course to add parking to that. So, that so that parking lot is there now, but you're expanding it. So, it's a
combination of old and new. Yes. Okay. It was very unclear the way it was written up. Thank you. And are you connecting the eastern lot there to the one that's further west? Not that eastern one though back there, Dorothy, where the grade difference is.
Are you connect? Yes, we're connecting those two. Well, it's got to be a decent length ramp, I guess. Um, the the grade varies. So, at the one end, it's 5T and it goes down to like I think a foot or so on the other end. So, we're able to make that connection there. Okay.
So, the parking lot we see at the bottom left corner and the parking lot that's kind of uh L-shaped, they're both going to get worked on. Yes. As part of this change. Yep. Okay. Uh, is that work going to happen in the summer? This summer? Yes. Oh, good. Thinking trying to do that during
the middle of the school year? I don't think so. Forest Hillto Boulevard would become your next parking lot. So, at in the planning stage, then we're talking about taking the parcels to the east of Parker and incorporating them or
or what's the deal? Yeah, we already own we already own those parcels and it's been in the plan a long time to do that parking lot. Um, so like I said, we only put that on hold because we had to do that master plan to make sure um what we're developing was appropriate for that campus long term. Um, this this
site backs up on Forest Hill Boulevard extremely difficult. Part of that parking lot project that we're is upcoming is to also um adjust the bus loop um to have a different route on site and some things like that. So, we're looking at holistically how to improve the circulation on this property
because it's very tight, very complicated. I believe the design of the parking lot and Parker came to this board last month or the last meeting we had for the design the ACUA for that design. Yes. So, they're currently working on it. What about students
walking from that eastern lot across Parker to get to the So, students wouldn't park on that eastern lot. That would be for staff. Okay. Is there any look see to see if Parker can be abandoned for that twob block
area and uh what the street to the south um uh be capped at the intersection of Maddox Street so that you know we have more control over the campus and we have that additional
space. We did look at that. Um, I don't remember the reasons, but I believe it was there's a ton of public utilities in that Parker Drive that we would have to take ownership of that was cost prohibitive. Um, that was part of it. I know there was some other reasons as
well, but we looked at basically every option you can think of on this site. Um, we had, I think, 48 different circulation op options for the site. Um, came back to what we have now. So, by me,
I've had four kids go through this school and uh this parking situation is an absolute disaster. Anything we can do to relieve it would be really good. And then I'm in favor of moving it forward. So, step one, obviously, this this
project is to increase parking load capacity and then to connect the two lots, which will help circulation. The one coming up will address the bus loop um alter alternate route for the bus loop and address additional parking for um staff on that east parking lot. So um
yeah, people park in people's driveways all over the neighborhood and it's it's a mess there. Yeah, I I I agree. We've been talking about expanding this parking for years now. Uh can you give me again the numbers that you're you're talking about the numbers we have now
and what we're adding now and what we'll be adding on the eastern portion. Um I don't know if I have the eastern portion yet. I you remember Dor I think it's about 100 spots 85 spots or something like that give or take. Um
this one I think I think this one is 100. Yeah this one is 105. Right. But you don't know the total numbers then for the school at all, do you? We we have I just don't have that memorized or in front of me, but we did look at that. We do have those numbers. Yes, we can provide that as a followup. If if yes,
if you do that in followup, I'd really appreciate and I'm I'm really wanting this to go forward. Uh, okay. Mua, did you have anything else on this? Yes, I did. Um, I think there's a typo on the first page where
it talks about the code sections. It says uh all workshop comply with building codes but not limited to Florida building code 2020. So has this been in the design works for 5 years? Cuz we're in the two 2023
building code right now. So I think that's a typo. It should be 2023 and then it says 2023 district masterpects. I thought we were in Is that the right year? I thought we were in 2014. No, that's the correct. I read that in another doc. Uh 2023 was the last update
we did to the master specs. We do it every three years. Okay. Um so we have one coming up next year, I believe it is. Um the building code, I could look into that. So let it be known for the record. I recommend it be for 2023. 2023 took effect in January of 24, right? And
so it depends on when this started. The design started. It very well may have started before then. And it actually this one did because we were going to actually do this work last summer and we ran out of time. So we pushed it till this coming summer to get some additional modifications done. So that's
probably why it's 2020. And the permit is still active. Yes, the permit is still active. Can I interrupt for a second? I'm sorry. Yes. Um I'm not needed for a quorum, am I? Um no. All right. I I just got I have to
leave and I apologize. because I just wanted to make sure about that. We've got 10 at the moment and we're have two of them leaving. I will try to I will try to come back. Even with two leaving, we're fine. Yes. All right. Good. Okay. All right. I've I've heard that I'm not necessary. I'm just surplus. So, I'm out
of here. Goodbye. Thank you very much. Have a good day. Okay. Jeff Sanchez put up 83 parking spaces are projected for the eastern lot. Yeah. Okay. Um yeah, but and just a detail on the
building code version. It would be the version the day you go in for a permit, not when you start design. Correct. Right. Okay. You were said it's already been in design. Therefore, because it's going to be under 2020, but you're you already have a permit. We do. Okay. For
this part. Yes. Oh, okay. The east lot. No, the east lot is the what we designing now. So, that'll be the new code, right? Okay. Move to go forward. Need a second. Second. Second by Jim Al. Any other comments, discussion?
All right. Dorothy. Bruce Alexander. Yes. David Porter. Yes. France Makaboo. Yes. Yes. John Chesher. Yes. Kevin Wilkinson. Yes. Michael Guido. Yes.
And Virginia Ferris. Yes. Okay. Uh PC4, I think I was the only one that pulled that. Um my question, I guess more is purchasing and policy. Looks like we're going with the second
low bidder. Um and it's 40,000 over the low bidder. So what is our SB policy for when we select the SB person, even if they're not low? There's a 5% preference. So, um, if the price is
within 5% or $50,000, whichever one, whichever one is lowest, that's okay. They would jump. Uh, when we don't pick low next time, if we could just insert that short what you just gave us the explanation on. I don't
think I saw that in. Okay. Um, I saw down at the bottom of the page, on the bottom of the tab, it well the bid tally I saw said didn't pick low because of the SB credit issued, but it didn't tell me kind of
the 5% of 50,000. I wouldn't had to question that. Got it. Okay. Thank you. That's all I had. Anyone else on PC4? Motion forward. All right. Got it first. Need a second. I'll second it. Second by
Mike Guida. Anything else? Darthothy. Bruce Alexander. Yes. David Porter. Yes. France Makaboo. Yes. James Al. Yes. John Chesher. Yes. Kevin Wilkinson. Yes. Michael Guida. Yes. Virginia Ferris.
Yes. Okay. Uh PC5. I pulled it. Mike, you pulled it. You want to go, Mike? Uh yeah. Found another typo on page 174. I want to go to [Music]
174. Uh I go to the subject reference. It's referencing Jupiter Community High School and it has no reference to Boca Raton High. So, I think this letter is the wrong
letter. It's not even the right schoolboard project number. So, let it maybe go back to Robing and get the right letter inserted in before the school board meeting.
Good catch. Good catch. You sure you still have a mechanical engineering business? Does it mean to be digging into this at much have that much time on your hands? Is that it, Mike? No, actually the math is a little fuzzy to me, too. I I don't understand the math here for some
reason. Um, we're approving 6 million plus dollars and we added to the previous budget of of eight. It's supposed to be 12. I don't know. Where's that page where it
shows the math? [Music] I guess the first page here um was something previously uh approved on this project. Yeah, we did some pull out projects initially. Um this D, wasn't this one
where we did the stairs as one as part of this project? Oka, let me I can look it up. But we did we did have some pull out projects that we did before this that took up some of the budget from what was originally approved. So go to the last paragraph on
that first page there to say please. Nope. First the first page. Yeah. It says uh RFP estimated cost is 5 million 13 and then it says the increase it says the budget was 8
million and the increase is 43 uh 93 but yet we're approving 6 million. So, shouldn't we be approving the
4393 4 million 393 and not the 6 million? Oh, the 4393 is only the increased amount. That's the budget amount and that's the increase to the total project budget, not just the GMP budget that's being approved here. So, that language refers to the entire
project. So the GMP plus any other pull outs that are on that budget sheet which also includes FFN correct? Yes. FFN soft cost design everything. Yeah. So the total construction cost for this
project is 6 6 million 144 for this GMP. Yes. Correct. So we estimated it to be a 5 million and now we're at 6 million. So, for the construction portion, it would seem like we're we need a million dollars extra
roughly. But where's the 12 million 12 million come from? The 12 million was all the work being done at that school. Um, all the different projects. This is one project to do the FCA work here. [Music] Have that spreadsheet, you know, just so
we're adding more scope to a previous GMC. No. Okay. So, so there's a project budget that's set up for a specific location and then whatever work comes out of that overall project budget is
this 12 million. So, not the GMP. If there was other minor capital projects done at that site, if there were MNO project pullouts that were done at this site, that would be pulled out. It doesn't get pulled out of this FCA
project. It's just other work that was budgeted for this school location. Okay. So, the school board allocated $12 million to to this school and this FCA buildout
is only is 61. Yes. To boil it down. We we package the projects based on what the most appropriate procurement method is. So some a lot of in every honestly every school we split it off into pieces. So sometimes we have some
contracts direct to vendors that are less expensive than going through a construction manager. So we pull that stuff out and do that separately. Um and then we package the stuff that needs a lot of coordination with a Seamar because they're they're there to help manage it. So maybe for future cover sheets, it
would just be helpful to have a four or five line little spreadsheet that just says total project budget projects previously pulled out GMP for construction bottom line total because
I'm still confused and I it to me it seemed like we were almost $4 million over and I was my question was is that still constru construction inflation, which doesn't seem like it would be. So, how much over are are we
of the I believe RFP for construction that you thought this would cost. So, I think our total budget is the 4 million over from what was originally planned from that 8 million 2016 numbers. Yes. But again, that could be not all construction.
Where is that? That's everything. We that the what we voted on in the referendum, those dollars, those blue sheets that we called those those referendum dollar values included soft cost, management fees, furniture, everything to go into there. Uh we didn't split it out. It was just a lump sum number, but everything had to come
out of there. So, um So, I guess my question is, are we still seeing major construction inflation? because that that's that's a decent chunk of the original budget. Remember this is that 8 million is from 2016. So it's 9 years. Yeah. 9 years old.
So we have accounted for that in our um we have an a bucket of money specifically for inflation. So we knew doing stuff from 2016 to 2025 we're going to have we didn't know this much but we did have plan for that. So, we have a list of a bucket of money that we
pull from that we take um as you know to ISO to pull from that money um set set aside for inflation. Okay. I think it's 130 million and we've been pulling out from there as we go. Yeah. Okay. Well, that answered my question.
Uh anything else? Mike Wita, you still look like you have a question. Yeah, if I could if we could get some kind of clarification for next time. Yeah. And a spreadsheet. I agree with David Porter. The highle summary. Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's a four or five line item that just kind of clarifies everything you guys have been verbally
telling us that you guys know about that we should know about and then it clears away all the questions. I agree because that I was really confused here too. And I'm wondering when does it go to the to the oversight committee for approval of the additional monies? Leanne's going to
tell us that because she's on that that's on the list for ISO next Friday. next Friday. All right. And they will see that. Um, one of the things Dave has to do is is give a justification for the increase. And and some of that projected
increase was expected, some of it was not, but we always knew some projects will come in over and some will come in under. And so far, everything has been balancing out. Some projects are over and some are under, and it works out. So, um, we're we're still monitoring that and we do report it back to the
sales tax oversight committee when we meet quarterly. Yeah. And Leanne had, uh, worked out, I think it was, correct me if I'm wrong, Leanne, 190 million that was kind of set aside as a contingency reserve for ISO.
So, that at each ISO meeting, she would bring back an update showing what projects were over, what projects were under. Um, and so far at the last IOC meeting, we hadn't needed to draw much out of that 190. Right. We've used some
of it, but it was it was very little and we're under what we thought we were going to be. So, I don't know that that's going to continue. Honestly, the longer we get away from when those estimates happened, um, the the more we we may see increases. That's why I've been happy we've been under so far. We
were under at the beginning and then we're going to get to where we're over. So, that's something I monitor very closely. Um, Dave and Michael will tell you every time they send agenda items through, I tell them where they're at and how far off they are or or they're under. So, we are monitoring that very
closely. Okay. Anything else on uh PC5? Move to go forward. All right. Need a second. A second. L second by France. Anything else on this? All right.
Chris Alexander, yes. David Porter, yes. Mock, James Al. Yes. John Chesher, yes. Kevin Wilkinson, yes. Michael Guido, yes. Virginia Ferris,
yes. Okay. Uh, we are down to PC8 and Michael Gelfan pulled it. Mike Guida pulled it. So, Michael Gelfan's not here. Go ahead. We'd have PCA um page 88 or no page 10. Go to page 10
first. I see on page 10 you have dates assigned to awarding of design contract and notice to proceed and things like that which are beyond where we are now. So, how
does this page get adjusted once we if this gets moved forward to the board for approval? How does these dates get adjusted? They're updated on the actual contract because this is just the RFP that was advertised. So, these are the
anticipated dates. Anticipated dates. Okay. So, since they will be shifting, will it still meet the school board's desire to complete the school by November 20? Yeah, this one doesn't have a hard and fast deadline because it's a transportation facility. So, we do want
to get it done because obviously you're fighting inflation every time. It takes longer, but we want to get it right um more than anything. So, um this one doesn't have a move in date. This is the skis road, right? Okay. So, it gets adjusted on the final Yes. contract. Thank
you, Myers. All right. And page uh 88. The guy here [Music] Something about the fees here. I wrote a
note fees. Let's see if I I marked anything up on [Music] here. Um, is the contractor um required to disclose his subcontractors as part of the RFP?
This is for design. This is for design. This is design. Yeah, this is design. And yes, they do they have um provided a proposal from every subcontractor that they have um with the backup supporting the work needed. Um the summary is listed there. It says where it says EW
Consultants, Pacifica, Dennis J. Levy, Simmons, and White. Those are their subconultants that they're using. [Music] Okay. Um their own MEP side. That's That's a little bit different about this company's BRP does their own MEP. Yeah.
Okay. That's what I wasn't seeing. So, yes, that's why I went to their website. I didn't see any pees on their faces. Well, the company's run by a PE. Huh. The company is run by a PE. So, it didn't have any pees on under their names. Even the CEOs, nothing had it.
So, okay, fair enough. They've done work for the district as long as I've been on and they do they do a good job. Yeah. And that's nice having the engineering in-house because then you don't get the architect consultants coordination
issues. Yeah. So you know how that is. Jim Al's never run into that before when he's reviewed drawings. All right. No further questions. Mr. Porter. Okay. Go ahead. Make a motion then. I'll make a motion for this to be I have a question. Um, is this the main transportation site
or are the other sites very similar to this with the offices and and and the various uh amenities? So, we don't have a main site. Um, they're regional um spread out throughout the whole district. Um, they're sized based on the
region. For instance, we have one far west in Belgrade that's smaller than the others because there's just a handful of schools, but it's a but they're all regional to minimize driving distances. Um, this one is a new one, so we'll be shifting buses and bus routes around um
once we get this facility built from some of the other locations. Um we will have two other projects or three other projects coming up for the south transportation central and uh what we call north um to do some work there as well. So part of the this work that
we're doing is we're modernizing all of our bus transportation facilities. Uh this is the first one. This is probably the largest um and has the most complicated site, but we will be doing some other substantial facilities here as well. So the others will have offices
in a training room and and similar similar um places. Yes. Okay. Thank you. I'll second the motion to go forward. I have another question, Miss Ferris. Sorry. Go ahead. Um in this facility, uh
we had talked previously about uh the school board acquiring electric buses. Uh will this facility accommodate uh the future electric buses that will be purchased? Yes, there obviously but it's it's a Greenfield site, so there's nothing there now, but it will
accommodate electric vehicles as well. Um so there um we've already implemented it at three of our locations that had existing facilities. This one is a brand new facility, so we didn't do that here, but it the design will accommodate. It's part of the RFP to um include uh design
work for that there. Yeah, because I see there's going to be 300 buses. Yeah. Parking lot there. So, we will have charging stations already built in here. It's not just going to be We'll make sure the electric panel is big enough. No, we're going to build them in. Yeah, they're piloting um several routes right
now of the electric buses around the district and figuring out all the mechanisms about how long does the charge last, what happens this that kind of thing. So, um Joe can speak more on that, but the transportation departments has the buses, they have the charging stations at three facilities and they're
using them not as routes, but test piloting and they're starting to implement the routes. I don't know if that's the beginning of next year or the end of this year, but they'll actually we are using them for the routes now. They are already routes. Okay. So, they are on routes now. Okay. We got five rooms now and we got 15 more coming. So,
we'll be up to 20 shortly. any any initial uh idea of how many miles the bus will go before a recharge? They they're able to uh run because we don't put them on the longest routes obviously, but we they're they're able
to run um both the morning and the afternoon uh routes without having to be charged midday, which is important to us because you're paying the high midday. So, yeah. So, we're it's it's working out pretty well for us. So, we're not going to run them
from here out the Belgate and back. We've done that, but we That's not the plan, though. Plug them into the sugarcane stalks. Okay. Uh, we had a first by Michael and we had a second by Virginia. Any other
comments, questions? All right, Dorothy. Bruce Alexander. Yes. David Porter. Yes. France Makaboo. Yes. James Al. Yes. John Chesher, yes. Kevin Wilkinson, yes. Michael Guida,
yes. Virginia Ferris, yes. Okay, we're down to PC9. Michael Gelfin had pulled it and I pulled it. Um, it's it looks like the low bidder pulled out and we are now going with
number two bidder. Did the low bidder pull out after the bid results were made public? or before? After? After. I figured that they they missed something big. $900,000
less on a $2 million job. Yeah. They they were going to lose their business. They were going to lose their business. And that's Yeah, that's why Yeah. When we did the comps, the the other roofing numbers were where they should be. Um and it it ended up being all the insulation um and decking that they
missed. They did the roofing part, so that wasn't in their bid. So, um, the other question I got out of curiosity is that Daily Brothers Roofing is owned by Michael Dailyaly and he's also the head of Hi-Tech. I think Daly is his son. Ah,
okay. So, I'm looking at that going, wait a minute, why would you bid against your own company? No. Okay, that's all I had on that. Anyone else? All right. Need a motion? Move to go forward. All right. Need a
second. I second it. France gave us a second. Go ahead. Dorothy. Chris Alexander. Yes. David Porter. Yes. Makaboo. James Al. Yes. John Chesher. Yes. Kevin
Wilkinson. Yes. Michael Guida. Yes. Virginia Ferris. Yes. All right. I think we're down to staff updates. Oh, Mr. um was going to do um talk about our DEI policies that were um adjusted
recently. So, I'll turn it over to him. Great. I was hoping we'd hear about this. Okay. Um yeah, but actually before I do that, I just wanted to I don't know if Jacob is still in the room. Is Jacob Cat still in the room? He is. All right. I just
wanted to again thank him and congratulate him on running the um the education foundation's Bill Malone golf outing last week. Did an outstanding job with that. And uh we had over 300 golfers out at the PJ National and um you know a lot of credit to to Jacob and
his leadership for putting that that the committee together and and and raising funds for education foundation. So I just want to make sure I acknowledge him before he got delayed. For those of us who remember Bill Malone, I'm happy about that, too. Yeah. Yes. Yes. But yeah, we did, right? We named him for
Bill Malone and uh some of you recall Bill. Bill was a guy that hired me. He was a former COO and um superintendent for interim superintendent for a while. So, great guy. His wife Kathy was there to spend the day with us, too. That was nice.
Good. Joe, on the uh when you used to run that, a lot of the proceeds would go to paid internships for the summer. Do you still do that program? We do still do an internship program. The um actually the district is now funding the internship program and and funding it
for a number of different departments. So, we don't have to pay for that anymore through the golf outing, which is great. Um we do get a portion of the proceeds from the G filing to help us with some professional development that we do internally. So because we don't have
money to pay for um you know certain things at the district but fortunately that that G finally contributes to it but you know a small portion of it most of it obviously goes towards uh the operation of an education foundation and supporting teachers in in our schools.
So okay thanks continue. All right thanks. So, um I just I did want to talk about the um specifically the the MWBE and SB programs there. There were actually nine policies that went to the board last week, Wednesday,
um to be modified or repealed and replaced. um and they they fall under what's called DEI, even though there's not really a a um a common definition or uniformly
accepted definition what DEI means. Um the purpose the reason for that is that um the the district has a the superintendent was required to sign a um a certification letter. It basically
says that we don't have any policies that give any preferences, right? Um, you know, it's a little more technical than that, but it's all stems back to a case that was brought against Harvard University um in
their in their um admissions practices. And um so it so the the the federal government required the states to sign off in the certification and then the the state of Florida required
the superintendent to sign off on the certification in turn. So and we had to so in order to do that um we were advised um from our legal team that we we needed to make some modifications to our
policies. So u most of them don't directly impact uh what what um court is involved with but that the sbew policy does impact um you know what we what we do. Some of you may that
we've done several disparity studies. I think we've actually done a total of well two disparity studies including plus one update of a disparity study over the several years which supported our MWB program. most recent one was done back in
2016. And in 2017, um we made a decision that we're going to only provide preferences for um for SB and not MWBEs u because for a couple of reasons. one is that u we didn't have data to support
continuing forward with preferences for MWBS, but we also um think we we did a good enough job to in terms of getting uh MWB's um work with the district. So, um you can't necess you can't really
have an MWB preferences if you're if you're already if there's no there's no great disparity between those firms. construction and delivery that we've really done well in. I would say um we we continue to try to do better in business services and I think that you
know we've continued to try to improve that area but construction we we've done pretty well with um you know spreading the work uh minority and women owned businesses. So, um, so on last last week when we
when we met with the board, the decision was to, um, repeal and replace the the, uh, SB/MWB program and replace it with simply a SB program. What that really means though is that uh, we're going to
be we're operating the same way we've been operating since 2017. Like I said, we haven't given preferences for minority or women businesses since 2017. and we continue to do well in terms of participation. Um we are continuing we our plan is to
continue to monitor um minority and women business participation going forward um and reporting that out so that we know how we're how we're doing going forward and um you know we're but we're not going to
have a MWBE certification program per se in our SB certification we do identify the ethnicity and the gender of the of the firms that are certifying as SBE. So that that will allow us to
continue to um to monitor how how we're doing in terms of contract awards and payments. Um in fact, we you know we may see some changes because of that because we our um our thresholds for
MWBE were lower than they were for um for SPE. Our thresholds for MWBE certification was uh 7 million and our threshold for SB is 13 million. So if a
minority owned business was between 7 million and 13 million, they could not certify as an MBE. So uh that that was not going to be an issue anymore. We since 2017 we've been encouraging our
minority businesses or MWBEs to who are certified MWB to get certified as SB so they can get the benefits of SBE. Um most of them can qualify. Um only firms the only difference between but one of the differences between qualifying for
an MWBE and SB certification is that to be an SB you had to be sort of you had to be in business for one year or more. There were there are some firms who qualified as an MWB but were not in business for one year and couldn't qualify SBE. There very few of those but
um but so there we've identified like 15 firms I think it is who are MBEs that are not SBS and we're trying to we're working with them to get certified as SB as um so I I think that's in general what we're talking about doing. Um Mr. Mr.
Burke has agreed to uh meet with the minority and women business ind you know contractors and architects and others to you know share his his commitment to continue to work to um provide fair
opportunities for for everybody and treat you know try to do the best that we can to make sure that we distribute work and um you know because we need small businesses of any any ethnicity and any race. we need them to help us be successful um in delivering the projects
that we need to deliver for our our community. So, um so we're we're looking to set up that that meeting um sometime in the near future, probably after graduations. We're getting into graduation season starting next week. Um so, with that, I'll open the floor up to
answer questions. I will say that um I did know this information or some of this information when we had our last cork meeting. Unfortunately, I wasn't in a position to share it yet because we had not had an opportunity to meet with all of our board members and share it with them and it would it would have
been inappropriate for me to share that information um to the public without without giving our advanced notice to our our board members. So, I apologize if um that news came out right after the last uh court meeting and and and not at the court
meeting like I would have liked it to do if I if we had a little bit more time to help answer any questions. All right. Anyone with questions? Yeah, just a quick question. So you were saying that uh after graduation you're going to meet with the 15 companies and
give them an opportunity to um to apply for SBA certification. Is that correct? Just no clarify the the office of well we've changed the name of the office of diversity and business practices to the office of small business development. They are already
reaching out to those companies. They've already if they haven't met reached out to them yet they do reaching out to them now immediately. the the the the meeting that I said that would take place after graduations would be the superintendent says he's willing to um we're looking to schedule a meeting um with the business
community specifically especially not not exclusively but especially with the minority women business community to um to to answer questions and and to give them reassurance that we're continuing to u to try to make sure that they have the every opportunity as possible to do
business with the school district. That's the meeting that's going to happen after graduation. Got it. Thank you. I'd like to just state as a woman that I'm really very upset over the direction that that uh is coming from the federal government in this manner
and the state of Florida. Um I think we've been doing a great job and it's very sad to see us having to change policies um because of this. My one question is um you had said
about direction about preferences. Does this apply to any other kind of preference such as what we were discussing for local own businesses any preference at all or is it just the what
they construe quote DEI? It's it's just what they Well, it's specifically um it's specifically to to race and ethnicity preferences. Um where's other there's other other DEI things that again like I
said there's no universally accepted definition of it but um it doesn't it doesn't apply to um to to sexual preference or you know gender identity or um it it doesn't apply to
disability. It doesn't apply to all all those different things. the the the case the Supreme Court case I mentioned specifically refers to um race and ethnicity. [Music] Thank you. I I I credit this school
board for taking action to preserve our funding, but I think it's sad that we're at this uh moment. Thank you. Thank you. Any other questions for Joe? Mr. Chair, just one point of order. just we Otilia uh Otilia Deose who was instrumental in
creating that department just passed away recently and she was a regular attendee at court meetings. I didn't know if anybody else had seen that. Yeah, that I I should have mentioned that as well. Yes, Dr. Dose was a former um director of the office of diversity
in this practice for several years. I can't remember how many how long, but she was also president of the um the Urban League of Palm Beach County and several she also was one of the founders of the Palm Beach County match business matchmaking conference that takes place
every October. So, she's she's been very instrumental and um you know, we're looking for ways to to honor her her memory as well. She was a a big mover and shake in this in this area. Sorry. Sorry to hear about that. I
I didn't know Yep. All right. Anything else for Joe? We will move on. Okay. Uh, continue with staff updates. Yeah, I only had one other thing to add. Um, so, uh, Kurigs Ingram has started their review of our board
policies and procedures and next week we have interviews. So, um, when they wrap up with what they're doing, we'll bring some of that report back to Cork of of what they found. So, okay. There's no plan for them to need to speak to any of the court members. Um Leanne has been
coordinating that. I don't I don't believe so. I think we were doing it kind of as independent. So we were getting for instance the economic council. We met with we got Cing Ingram getting their input. We get Cork's input and then collectively we would collect that data and bring it to the board for
any final decisions. Um part of the the policies that we did we gave them the base policies of what were done. We gave them the markups from what you had done before as a body cork and then we gave them some further markups that the construction department has recommended on top of that. So they have three
different versions to look at and comment on and um compare it to industry standard to see how we're operating compared to other districts. So Okay. And this is the company that was coming through to look at your business practices and operations. Yes. Okay. Do they kind of have an end date of when
they think they would have a final report to you guys? Yeah, they're they're scheduled. I think the soup to nutsy was going to be less than 30 days and they started their review last week. So, um yeah, their contract gives them through June 30th, but we expect it to be done
before then. Okay, very good. Yeah, to answer the next question, we still we still have tenatively scheduled to bring those policy changes to the July board meeting or by workshop say there's a couple of
meeting couple of readings for the changes to take place. So, I'm hoping that they can stay on their schedule so we can stay on our schedule. So, if they come back with any changes to the red lines that you have from court, then I guess you'd bring them back to us for consideration before
going to the board. Correct. Okay. All right. Uh David, yes. Want to mention about Francesca? Oh, yeah. Forgot to mention that. Uh Francesca has decided that Cork was I think consuming maybe too much of her
time and effort and she has turned in her resignation from Cork. So, we are back down a member. I think we're at 12. I'm sorry, David. Who was that? Francesca Wernish. Oh. Oh. Oh, that's too bad. Yeah. Um, just a couple days
ago. So, I think she left because she was too young. She didn't want to spend 30 years on the committee. Watch it there. Watch it. I'm there with you, Virginia. I'm 24 years on this thing.
Um, okay. In progress work. Um, we do have a slideshow. Um, we can go through it. It's just two weeks ago we did one. So, there's a lot of updates. If you wanted to skip that, I don't I think it's fine. So, it is attached um to the Yeah, it's fine. If somebody wants to review it, but I
didn't think we'd spend the time to go through it if that's okay. No, but everything that's supposed to be progressing is on schedule and we're not needing to know about anything that's going to kind of cause a delay. Okay. Uh followup. We had a follow-up page that
says followup will be followed up later. Yeah. Um, it's only been two weeks. Yeah, I know. We've been working on them and and we have partial answers to a couple of those. So, we didn't want partial answers. We wanted to give you a full update. So, okay. We have a line
item in here, new member information, question and answer for new members. We put that in there because you asked us to and I didn't know if that was for the last month only or whether this was a regular thing. I I really just wanted to end there as a reminder for our our new
members. Um don't ever hesitate to ask a question. I mean, just raise your hand, ask a question. If you don't understand an acronym or abbreviation we're using, uh you know, CCNA or whatever it might be. Um don't wait till the end of a meeting. Just pop up your hand and ask
the question. uh we want the new members to get as educated about everything that we do and have done so that you fully contribute to uh the operation of the meeting. So you can take it off for the next meeting. I just wanted that as a reminder to to bring that
up. Okay. Uh approval of the minutes. Anyone with issues on the minutes? Very good minutes. Good. And also a good uh cork uh cork report also. Thank you for doing it. Yeah. All
right. Then there's uh no changes in minutes. They're accepted. Um I don't think we've mentioned anything specific to come up at our next meeting. That's a month from now, right? Not two weeks from now. May 29th. Oh, all right. Four
weeks. Four weeks. Yeah. Okay. Um anyone have anything else? All right. Then we are adjourned. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [Music] Yeah, so they traveling.