Good evening everybody. Welcome to the city of Parker council meeting for the 7th of September October. Um we've got quite a few items on the agenda tonight. So we'll hopefully get through these in a reasonable time. If you're reading the agenda, item six is no longer going to
be heard tonight. The individual has asked to have that rescheduled for another time. So the Mr. Abu's uh partial questions will not be heard. Um Mr. Ch Mr. Rea, are you here sir?
Yes sir. Would you be so kind as to do the invocation before we do the Everybody please stand. Very good. Thank you. Let us pray. Heavenly Father, we are thankful for your presence in our meeting today. Uh guide our minds and hearts as we discuss
important matters. Grant us your peace that surpasses understanding, keeping us focused and productive, and guide our conversations that inspire creative solutions. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Mr. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Please be seated. Madame clerk, will you please call the
role? Miss Bford, Miss Barrow, here. Mr. Chapel here. Mr. Haney. Mayor Kelly is here. Thank you very much. As we always do in our council meetings, we always ask for any items from the
audience that are not on the agenda. Uh, please come to the podium and you can have the floor. Anamarie Morris, 129 North Lakewood Drive. We are going to have at the VFW uh trunk or treat. You can participate.
You can decorate your car. You can come pass out candy. You can whatever you want to do. We're going to have kids there. And hopefully we'll have a fire truck. I hope. I hope. From 4:00 to 6:30 October 31st on Friday. Thank you.
4 to 6:30. Miss 6:30. Okay, you ran away. Okay. Okay. One second. You come in the room. Would you like to come in the room? Come in the room so you can participate. There you go.
There's lots of chairs. Sit wherever you can find a place. Sorry, ma'am. Go ahead. That's fine. Good evening, mayor and council members. My name is Charles Schultz, and I am
here tonight for the second time out of deep concern for public safety for our community. I live at 810 West Street and on the curve from West Street to
Lake Drive going to the dock, there is a trailer that sits over to the right and the owner has dogs. On September the 30th on my morning walk, I was attacked by a large black
dog. He crawled out from the fence of the property from the lake with only one thing on his mind and that was attack.
If id had a pistol, mace, billy club, whatever would have done me no good because that dog was after human flesh. The wound that I incurred is about 4 in by two inches required stitches.
And you might think six six stitches is not very much. But when you have to put a stitch, leave a space, put a stitch, leave a space because of the bacteria that is now in my body from this dog, it was a pretty severe severe bite.
But I was fortunate. I did not fall. Had I fallen, that dog would have mauled me. There is no doubt in my mind that that would not have happened.
This is the second attack from the same property, but a different dog. The first one was on April the 18th of 2023. Now, after that incident, I was
personally assured by you, Mr. Mayor, that this would be handled. I called your I never heard back from you. I called the office. I talked to individuals, but nothing was ever, no calls were returned, and nothing ever
happened. The dogs were still there. I avoided that area probably for close to a year. And that particular morning, I made a bad judgment call and I decided to enjoy the beauty of the water and the
dock that you so graciously our community has provided for us. Animal control and our fire department responded very quickly. I am have nothing but praise. We are so fortunate and blessed to have the protection that
we have here in our community. It's my understanding, and I'm sure I could have records pulled, that the gentleman that owns this property has had numerous citations and paid thousands of dollars in fines. So, the
question remains, why is this still allowed to happen? But here is the saddening part. Right afterward, a neighbor walked up to me and said, "Charla,
do you realize there was a child, a small girl, on a bicycle in the exact spot that you were attacked only moments after it happened?" Ladies and gentlemen, I took the hit for
a child and I would take the hit for a child any day. But our children walk that route and ride their bikes to school on a daily basis. And I'm not there every day.
This is not about just me. It's about every family, every child, every resident that walks and enjoys the beauty of our community. We have that wonderful park that is such an addition
to our community, but is it safe to go there? That's the question. Tonight, I respectfully ask, enforce the leash and containment laws
immediately, please. I implore you require a public report from animal control of any violations especially in this area. Take permanent corrective action to ensure
this property, our community is safe once and for all. I prepared photos and documentation that I will give each of you as I leave the podium tonight. And I stand here not as a victim but as
a voice for change. Thank you for your time and your attention. Thank you, ma'am. Um, I got a couple questions for you. Yes, sir. Did the animal control officers put out a bait trap that day? Do you know
they have the dog? They put it down already. Right. As far as I know right now, the dog has not been put down because it's a 10day waiting period. Okay. For the Yeah. Yeah. Right.
Well, it happened again today. Another one was out today. And contrary to what you may or may not believe from the last time on your behalf, I made probably 30 phone calls
to everybody I could think of to deal with this problem because you're right. You're 100% right. But I'm limited to what I could do as mayor. Yes, sir. So today when they were out again, they were from two addresses in your neighborhood. one of his dogs and
another one or two of somebody else's. The police chief went over there. I don't know if he was successful. Um I couldn't find they were gone. Okay. I I hear what you're saying about the
leash law, but that's not strong enough. It is not strong enough. And that's what I was feared because I don't know the law. There needs to be the law is very thin on what I can ask the police to do.
I know what I would do. Yes, sir. I know exactly what I would do if it bit me or mine. I know precisely what I would do. And you're not in that position. I understand that. I did see the photographs within an hour of it happening. And that was horrendous what happened to
you. I cannot believe how how you didn't scream and hoot and holler when that when they came. They said you were very calm. But you know, do you have a suggestion? I wish I did. But do you know how I restained my calmness? Yes, ma'am.
Was just simply from our Lord and Savior. Yeah. Well, because I knew in my heart if I ran right, it run you down. If I panic, it would have run you down. I wouldn't have a chance. But what was so strange was that dog when he came at me. I mean, it was just like a beline.
Yeah. He was gone as fast as he arrived. Well, he just I I mentioned the last time you came here and we did I did not feel like I got a lot of support, but if the animal control they they charged me about $45,000 a year to come
out and collect people's dogs. What I'd like to see happen, I can't make a motion, but I would like to see that every time that dog is picked up that the the cost of the animal control action be attached to the water bill of the property owner of the dog. If they
choose not to pick it up, let them put it down because this is the only way it's going to end because people just don't listen. They just do whatever they want. And what you said just now, the kids walk that way every morning to school. I have
them drive me around this city three, four times a day and I'm watching and I'm watching to see what's going to happen. I'm I'm I'm of the opinion that we are not being strict enough. And it's not just you. There's a lady that came shortly after you. She she works at home
and she walks around the track with her earbuds in her ears and these animals have come out after her on the track and I when they told me who it was I I knew when they said a dog had hurt somebody I just knew it would be you. I knew I knew
it would be you. So when you came before us the last time I did a lot of research. I check with everybody that I could think of and the only thing we can do, ma'am, is make the law so strict that if that animal's out, we pick it
up. If the police go there, I'm going to tell you what I told him. I don't care. Who knows? I told him today. I said, "Chief, if you go over there and that thing tries to bite you, do your duty." Well, what can we do as an individual, as a community to enforce or to put
forth the effort to increase and make that law more straight? So, I got a call today. The first call I got today was from people walking on the path where you were at walking around the track. That's their right to do that. We built that park for that purpose. Right. Correct.
And these darn dogs are out. Again, I'm going to just tell you me personally, it's got nothing to do with the city. me personally, I would personally sue the owner. I would take them to court and I would own their home. That's what I would do.
But that wouldn't change the fact that what happened to you happened to you and it wouldn't if like like you said, if you had a baton or spray or whatever you have, you it would have been too quick. It's still going to happen the way it happened. Now, if he'd got you down and
bit you in the throat, it would have been over. That would have been different. And that's what I was about to say because I have contacted an attorney here locally. Yeah. And I've also contacted an attorney with an an organization that I participate in. Okay.
Both of them. The attorney here. We don't handle dog cases. We don't have a what? Dog cases. We don't handle dog cases. Oh, yeah. Don't they say Oh, they don't have a dog. They don't take dog cases. They don't take dog dog cases. But if you were dead, I bet they would. Well, here's the second one. And this is
going to blow everyone's mind. My injuries were not severe enough. And that goes to what you were saying about if he'd gone from my throat. Right now, if he'd gone from my throat, if he'd mauled my leg, if he'd taken my arm off, I'd have a case. Right. But because I have a bite on my leg and
I still have my leg. I don't have a case. Over 30 years ago, I told you this the last time. My good friend Miss Barrow was bit in the face so bad it just almost took her face off. Yeah. And it just can't be. It can't. And I'm with you. But there's so
limited. The law is so limited. So what do we have to do? What I say we should pick up every loose animal. Unfortunately, I don't know what else to do. But we're going to have to make a rule in Parker that is so strict. Well, that was going to be my next
question. What can you do and what can the council do in our community? What restrictions can you place? No loose animals. can't have one. If it's loose, we'll pick it up. And if we pick it up and it goes to animal control, which is what else you going to do with it, right? Then someone's going
to have to pay that fee. And I feel like me personally, I can't make a motion. But I feel like that if that dog is loose, you bill someone $300 or $400 on their water bill, you'll get their attention. Great. And I don't know if the loose dog I saw this morning was a big brown dog. Yep.
I saw at my Did you see it? This morning? Yep. I immediately when they got called I immediately called the chief and he immediately went to look for it and but it's limited what I am what we can do because
uh is there a contact a number like like with me because I'm out a lot I I love to walk I love the outdoors and part and our community is so beautiful that I don't want to be restricted to where I have to just stay inside my home 911 just do 911
yes ma'am know if there was local number that I should call immediately. Well, but they're not always at the police station. You're out riding around the car. A loose dog to 911? Yeah, chief. I'm I don't even have a good answer for you and I'm embarrassed for it. This never should have happened again. Never.
No, sir. No, it it it it should never have happened again. No, not at all. No, it's euthanized. The one from mine before was euthanized. Now, this one they still have under control right now. They say because they got to keep it 10 days. She
was got rabies 10 days period. Mr. You were going to look into that water bill. Did you find You can't do it. You can't do it. Good thought, mayor. But I I haven't found any legal authority that gives you the
right to put it on water. See, I'm so restricted of what I can do. That's the sad part. You know, there were two Bay County animal control people out there about 11:00. They say
for about 40 minutes. Of course, that was today. many dogs out there. But uh uh I talked to them about it and uh they uh informed me that they were going to try to make random checks. Um
now my understanding is they put a bait trap on that property where the animal snuck out from. And see, I don't know that it was even chained inside the yard. It may not have been. It was not the dog. The dog was loose otherwise. I mean, or maybe he was on a chain and broke loose. broke his chain. I was about to say you could have broken
the chain, you know, and I didn't I know they had a small dog that that was on a on a chain that I'd seen when I was driving by and it was a short chain and it was a little dog and it was when everybody is responsible for their animals. Correct. Everybody.
Everybody. I mean, we talk about these things, but what are we going to be saying when some child walking to school with its brother or sister, four or five years old, gets taken down and bitten by a wild dog, and then we're going to say, "Oh, we're so sorry." That's my fear. We're so sorry, but we didn't fix
nothing and we're responsible. I'm here and I'm alive and and and well and healing and I can walk. Yeah. But what if this was a parent? What if it was one of you? Yeah. one of these little kids in the room and you up here and your child was completely mauled or maybe even a loss
of life. Well, I saw that wound and that dog needs to get put down because that's not going to stop doing that. No, it's not going to stop. No, he won't. And that that dog was just he was ready. Anything council? Anything you want to
discuss with her? I appreciate your time. I appreciate you and I'm sorry you got bitten. And mayor, if you would, if you find any recourse, any information you need from me, if you need to be witness or talk,
go go go before anybody, I am willing. I will be there on your behalf. Whatever I can do to protect our community. Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. So what is our
ordinance still? That's pretty much all it is. Bacon animal controls on a leash or uh under direct control of of the owner.
Can you change it to where it says they got her good? I send the photographs from the day times as long as it's but see if they're on their property and run off their property and get somebody. Well, what I've heard for years is is not
necessarily the front end of it, Miss Barrow. It's the back end. So, they come and they they they're off the leash or they're not under control. They bite her and then they go away and by the time animal control gets here, they're gone. They've run off. And that's the problem
today, council. Uh it was like one minute, not even from the time my phone rang and these people that were walking the track got chased. And I picked up my phone and called the chief immediately. And I instructed him
to do whatever he needed to do to deal with it because I know in my heart this is the only one way this is going to end. And talking about it doesn't work. just keep saying, "Oh, poor dog. Poor dog." What the lady just said. It was 100%. Kids will walk in the school and
gets one of these little ones and and and we're going to be sitting there saying, "Oh my god, what did we do? We did nothing. We got to be firm. We got to do something. I'm not sure what we got to do." But yes. So, if we can find Listen, I'm with you, man.
I'm with you, brother. You hear what he said? We find some of the grass being being caught running loose uh fine to start with and every time after then so how much do you think we should now Mr. Sloan could write us. We can absolutely do that. That's easy. $1,000
every time your dog is losing. We can do 500. 500. I'm okay with that. $500 if your dog is out and I'll get your attention then. You can't keep them contained. And the reason, you know, why the people don't drive around the United States at
90 miles an hour? Because that $400 ticket stings. And so it's the same with your dog. If you aren't responsible for that dog, then you should pay a fine. And I think $500 is fair. We make some signs to put out there saying if the dog is caught on not on a
leash, it's a $500. We'd have to probably put it on the water bill or something like that because the sign wouldn't be sufficient. You'd have to put it on something like a newsletter. Not everybody that uses that park though are Parker people. Well, it needs to be sent to a letter to every person. Every
Parker people first for sure. We do have a lot of somebody, it ought to be automatically $1,000 fine to start with. 500? No. 500 if they get caught. But your fine is 500 per offense.
Okay. If they buy, that's extra though. Okay. Yes, ma'am. Two offenses 129 North Lakewood. So, I have a couple of questions about this. How are we going to catch them? There's the animal control. So,
they put a bait trap out. Oh, they're going to have to trap them. That's what they did with that one there. Okay. And I was told they've already done it. Okay. They've already did it because there's no point dragging your feet. If it happens, do it. Big crap. Okay. I'm here to tell you, I'm going to save
animal control some time because if that dog attacks me and my dog, it's when you're out walking, your dog ain't going to be able to defend itself. No, I will defend my dog. I realize that, John. But that pitbull gets your lab, he's going to rip him apart. No, he won't. He won't. So, if a red dot on
Okay, I see what you're saying. But I see what you're saying. But the poor dog can't stop him. Laying right there. Go bury it. That's what's going to happen. It happened several times myself. I mean, I'm with you. No times on these animals. You know, the same place where she's talking about
it. Y the trailer is a It's a problem. It's a problem. And it's a pit. That's a problem. Well, I got to see the pictures and uh fortunately that dog, it's done. It's
over. If we were on my farm and it come after my animals, I'd shoot it right then on the spot. I'm just telling you. I didn't say done. I don't care. Yes. Is it really more of a a problem or situation with the owner being, I'll be
polite, stupid. Uh I mean, irresponsible. Irresponsible is the word. Yeah. And yeah, okay, the dog does need to be put down, but obviously this the homeowner, dog owner,
whatever is a serial offender. Serial offender. There's a second or third dog. now because this particular animal was in another house in Parker about a year ago. Got out
and was chasing my wife and I as pets in our garage. Come down the street. Come in. I should have ended it right then, but I didn't. I wasn't quick enough. But I want I am with Mr. Haney and I don't care who hears me say it. That is un
it's unacceptable. That lady came here a year ago and told us of a problem and I am I'm a I'm so upset that this has happened to her and how much pain she must have been put in and I don't know what to do. I have no clue. We've got
animal control that is teethless and the law won't allow me to find him unless I find him the $500 that he has just told me. We I have a police chief in the police department. this. It was seconds today that he was over there. They were
gone. I mean I mean I know we laughed when Mr. Haney said what he said, but he's right. That is the only way. That is the only way. I mean I had a lab and he he wouldn't have hurt anybody. But a pitbull got on him and it would be the end of him if I
didn't do what I did. You know, I have a German Shepherd that will be taken down because he's a big baby. Y he's a pet. You can't control dogs that are attacking. No, no, no. Well, unfortunately, there are some nice
dogs that use the park facility, but again, we can't have our people getting hurt. So, think about it, Mr. Chap like a lab or something like that. You're out walking your dog and this venomous animal comes across and starts
attacking him. You're going to try to stop him. And now both of your arms are going to be in there. There is no choice. There is no choice. Well, I I think we ought to pursue and uh have a $500 fine for a loose dog in
the park or anywhere in Parker really. And like you say, let's get tough on it because we can't have people getting bit. That's just that's just not what we can do. Do we need to make a motion to implement it?
I think we do. Just write it up. Bring it to I I'll write it up and bring it to you. Okay. So, let's make a motion to make this law today. We can't, Mayor. It's an ordinance. We'll make an ordinance today. We can't, can we? No, sir. He's going to write the ordinance.
I'm going to write it and then you can have it at the next meeting. All right. All right. Council, is that going to be sufficient, do you think, for now? Okay, moving right along. Anybody else got
something for the podium? Okay. Um, this is uh a regular agenda items now. Um, the first thing is approval of the minutes from August 25th, September 4th, 16th, and 17th. You should have those in your package. I got some corrections on here.
Okay. The first meeting on September 4th. You go down to um the second public hearing and it says council member Barrow. I made the motion council member Haney second but then they put she put council
member descending that needs to be struck from there and then the next one down needs to be struck from there. same thing. It should say motion carried. And then on the regular meeting on September 17th,
page two on the very back here, it says, "Council member clarified comment previously made regarding water. You told that was not me. That was his father." So that needs to be corrected.
With those corrections, I make a motion approval with corrections. We have a motion. Do we have a second? Second with the corrections. Second with a You have a correction, John? Oh, second with a correction. Okay. We have a motion and a second. Take the role, please. Miss Bford, yes. Miss Barrow, yes.
Mr. Chapel, yes. Mr. Haney, yes. Mayor Kelly, yes. Thank you, councel. Um, number two is the planning commission recommendation for consideration. uh a mobile home dealership. Is it is
your last name Nessar? Is that how you pronounce it? Yes, sir. Hey, how are you today, sir? I've been a long time getting to that podium. So, um does the council have any questions? Just the amount of area to display
mobile homes. We've got the side lot and the back lot. So, you can put five one mobile home in. No, you put five there. We've measured it. 10 times. They're not permanent.
Of course. I'm not stupid. How much area to put this place? Yeah, we can put five. Well, how big are these mobile homes? Uh, largest you'll have 28 by 54.
those two lots been combined because on the future land use map it only looks like the front part of the parcel is commercial and the back part the way I read it is resial residential
well he's letting me you I rented that space from him so he'll let me use I mean if I could only have three in the front that's fine too the front lot is the only one that's commercial residential is up to the council, but I don't know
that you would be able to put a mobile home dealership in the residential section. Well, the offices, the building, and then models would be in the front. And I was hoping we could get two more in the back, but I can't. That's fine. And of course, that's in the CRA.
It's in the CRA. So the CRA talks about um improvements, the types of improvements, what you're looking for, as well as low intensity commercial. Um that definition that was included in
the ordinance doesn't specifically exclude what he's asking for. It doesn't include it either. It's not in there at all. Right. Biggest model is 28 by 54. And then there's single whites, too. by 30.
Any discussion? Council. Well, what are you going to do if you got those on the lot and all of a sudden, oh, I didn't know I had another one coming and they got to put it in the road right there or on a residential lot. They're not coming unless I know
and I have plenty of lots to put them on in Sandy Creek, but 169 lots in Sandy Creek. Okay, that's what we're really doing is we're basically selling to ourselves rather than buying them from Clayton Homes and
Regional. We're selling them to ourselves. I mean, the public's more than welcome to come and buy, but we're not going to gouge people 180 grand for a mobile home. They're going to be under 100 grand and they're going to go and when you
sell them, where are they going to be delivered to? Uh, Panama, there's already three ordered for Panama City Beach. They won't come here. When they're ordered, they will go. This is just be to people to look at them. Correct. It'll We'll only allow three then that's what you're saying. If it's residential in the back, we'll only
allow three. And why didn't you set this up in Panama City Beach if that's where the customer base is? That's not I own lots out in Panama City Beach. So, I have two lots out there, but I have 169 in Sandy Creek. So, I
can't just run a business out of my home. They will not allow that. I've already talked with the Florida Highway Patrol. That's that's after I get this letter from you folks. I have to turn it over Florida Highway Patrol. Okay. And that won't be affected by the bridge
at all. It could well be this. I I don't know that there's going to be a lot of room down there. I don't I think I agree with Mr. Haney. I don't think there's a lot of space and there's this bridge is coming in and them guys are going to be
and we're about to dig this all up pretty soon for the um SRF. I don't know. They're movable. I mean, we could have them moved within two days notice. Yeah, that's not a problem. Right. Well,
you took out signage on that that strip of the parkway because it was the gateway. It was. And we are and I am. Yep. Well, I I' I don't know. Council, can you give me some guidance here before? I know what I'm thinking, but I'd like to
know what you guys are thinking. I don't see this as a fit for the city of Parker, especially not on the main corridor, especially if he's trying to put on rental property that that are actually not commercial. Right. I don't see that as a fit.
It's commercial there. Do you have a small lot for commercial? Yeah. What you're renting from your neighbor is not commercial. Well, we won't put it on the residential. We'll just put it on the commercial. How many trailers? We'll put three
on that small property. It will hold three. We'll hold one double wide and two singles. So, I think what they're trying to say to you is that this is our parkway is about to go through a big change.
I understand that. And uh um optically uh it may not fit in the CRA with what what you have. I don't think it will in the CRA. I I've read it and I've looked at it and I've looked at the map on the
wall and but I'm open to whatever the council says. Hasn't this property had some uh code enforcement issues before the same property? Haven't we had some code enforcement issues on your property? I I don't I don't own the property.
I don't know, John. I don't own the property. I I'm leasing it from him. So, my question is, is you're going to put them in front of that office building? No. Right there. On the side. If you look at the building, it will be on the side. The lot is wide enough to
put them on the side of it. Well, to put them in a row like that, I suppose. Right next to each other. Right next to the building. Yeah. It won't it's not going to take up any of the roadway where the bridge is going to be right right there
right along the edge of it. Yeah. Yeah. As we grow, we're probably going to eventually move the office, but we just needed to start ordering homes. I'm not going to pay a h 100red grand in profit to Clayton Homes and then guys when I
can get these homes for $50,000. Right. So, I just need it temporarily either in six months or a year. If you guys want to just grant me the license for a year and then I'll find another location. But I've already spent money at this location
trying to fix it. Your first place would have been here before you went through all that. Right. You should have gone through this process first. Well, that's why I went to the first meeting and they said it that was if we're going to accept this council, we need the first and the second in a
vote. If there's nothing, it'll die down the vine. Well, it's an application, mayor, so that's it, right? It either needs a affirmative or not, right? Yes, sir. I don't
I don't personally think it's going to fit. I I don't think it's going to be appealing. my opinion. So, I make a motion. I have Okay, got a motion. Got a second. You call a roll.
Miss Bifford. Miss Barrow? Yes. Mr. Chapel? Yes. I'm sorry. Yes, Mr. Haney. Motion to deny. Right. Thank you for your time, Mayor. Yep. Motion to deny. Thank you. Okay,
let's see what next thing I got. Uh, consideration for RV sales business for Dikes. Um, he um I I don't know. Is he here? Yeah. Hey, Mr. Dikes. Good afternoon, mayor. Good afternoon, council. How are you today?
So, I didn't know you were here. I thought your business partner might have came to talk to us tonight. Nothing's changed since we talked about this a year ago. That's more or less the same RV style building. Yes, your honor, if I may. Yes, your Mayor Kelly
photos for each of the council members and Mr. give you what we're trying to do. And for reference, this is 5612, uh, Highway 98. Uh, and what we're trying to do is make the RV park the
jewel of Parker. Um the photographs that you see before you um are what we have there. They are RVs. We do have uh 60 lots specified for RVs there. It's a 4 point I think
about 5 acre property. Um you know the the goal is to bring those in and to sell them. We would like to make it better for the community and have at at one point we're going to have a dock, but but staying focused on this um the
Florida Department of Home Safety and Motor Vehicles has rules and regulations and it it kind of starts with um the property that you're going to sell them from. It has to be permissible within the
municipality of where you're located. Um, so I've reviewed the land development regulations. Um, you know, I can't find where it absolutely says you cannot do it, but I also don't see what absolutely says you can do it. Uh, we
just ask for the the the council's grace because we are doing everything we can to bring that up. Um, and I also would point out that uh the paving is going to be rather expensive. And so this was a way my partners and I came up with to
help maybe produce some income to help provide the paving that we're going to need. And and that's going to be a pretty big price tag. Um, again, we've shown you the pictures of of what we've done and uh we we believe it's going to be a benefit and we look at it as onward
and upward. So, I'll be glad to answer any questions. So, council, I would like to interject that I did look at this a year or so ago, a few months, maybe 10 months ago, and these are RVs, and I did verify with Mr. Someone. We verified what he had told us that they are recreational
vehicles. You can tow them with a vehicle, with a truck. They're not mobile homes, although it's look, it optically appears to be. Um, the plan is that the RVs that are currently on the lot will slowly over a period of time no
longer be rented in an oldfashioned RV style. That the new RV style will be this for the future. And so eventually the plan is to have what 68 of these out there. We we have 60 lights and I mean we hope sales go great guns and we
bringing them in, but I I have to see what the market tells me, but that's the idea. Yes. Okay. And so council's aware that we are we have required in the past and we are in fact moving forward now uh with all the RV parks all of the RV parks are
going to have to be paved and that's what he's referring to with uh assisting him with padding the the cost of the RV parks the only one and the mobile home parks. Yeah. And yeah right the mobile home parks. So, um, just for clarification
for the council, there there are no mobile homes in his park. It's an RV park. And the other thing that you should be aware of, um, you know, we're doing the SRF to put that new water line around the city of Parker. It is in fact going to travel along the front part of
his property all the way down the Parkway. And we have spoke and when it's done and when it's erected, they plan to put a uh one of those beautiful plastic RV, not RV, but plastic uh fences are on the front there. And I'm hoping that um
that his neighbor would be willing to do the same. So when you come off the curve, you'll only see the uh very tops of the buildings, put that brand new fence all the way around till you get to Fleming, which we're going to get to that tonight. And then after that, it'll just be the parkway again. So, but I I
wanted to tell you that Mr. Sl and I did look this over really really close because we didn't want to get here and then have an inaccurate statement for you. But, um it is compliant with uh the regulation and I did talk to Mr. Rega about it. He told me that they were
compliant. This says it wants to be just to amend the current business license to include the RV sales. RV sales. Well, it's not really a sale, is it? It's a Can you explain that?
I'd be glad to. The the premise is uh and it's a DHSMV thing. They want a letter from the city that in essence says, "We've talked to you all about this and we're okay via the city to sell
the RVs." The end goal is yes to sell RV to someone. And by the way, if this passes, they're off for sale. So, you know, I'm a marketer, too. But but yes, the goal someone maybe from Alabama, Death in Alabama, wants a spot down here
and once our dock goes instead of having to haul their camper back and forth, it's here, it's ready, it's set up, water power, sewer, you know, the whole nine yards. And so it's jumping your car, two hours you're here, you enjoy the beautiful Shell Island, and maybe you go deep sea fishing while your
wife goes to Mexico Beach. Maybe you all go, whatever. But it it we view it as moving Parker closer to some of the amenities that you might find on Panama City Beach
with a uh much reduced price tag. But um you can only sell one RV per year if you do not have this license. And unfortunately, uh, I mean, I I I want to pray for 60 more years, but I'm 55, so the odds are
against me on that. I'm trying to figure what what kind of emotion that we need. Well, just I wanted to tell you currently, what do we is it $64 a month they pay per unit for water and sewer RVs?
It's base rates. Yeah. Um, I'll just take the base rate. Yes, that's that's a Okay. So, also I should tell you that. And how many units does he have? 68. 60. 60. Uh, man, I've been miscalculating. Um,
so that's $68 a month that we make off each of these units, whether they sit there, whether there's anybody here on vacation or not, we're still taking that revenue in those base rates. These actually appear more like tiny homes, too. They appear that way. Yeah, I think that's a very valid point.
And uh the best I can tell you is they have the recreational vehicle industry association sticker on them. They all have that. They're under 400 square feet heating and cooled. That does not count the porches. Uh I can't dispute that
quote look, but they are considered by the industry RVs and they are built according to the Reva standards. Um, so, uh, we think it's an upgrade because you are able to finish them out and and I'm
not knocking RVs. I have RV myself, but I think that this is and and if you ever go to any other communities, go to any other campgrounds, these are what is up and coming without a doubt. And people love them, you know, that that they do. So,
so basically to answer the question, you're going to start bringing these in slowly to weed out the older version of This is the new This is the This is Even the older ones are still really nice. You know, they're really nice, but this is better. I think this
amazing, huh? Two of them there right now. The two that you see, we've got there and and the package. That's for you to come look at. Yeah. Yep. Yep. I I would remind you that the tiny homes are have to be built in accordance with
the Florida building code. Correct. And these are RVs. These are purely RVs because you you have a prohibition against tiny homes and mixed use one, but not RVs. But see, people will buy these and they'll own them and they'll put them on Mr. Dykes's land and they'll pay water
and sewer and so on so forth. But what they also can do if there's a hurricane in the Gulf and it's going to hit Benma City, they can come hook onto this and leave with it just like they could a regular RV. So, this got to be a plus. That's a to that point, Mayor. You're absolutely right. You can do that. But
you'll see, I don't remember if it's in this packet or not, but there is actually a picture on the website for Clayton where they show and I I I'll be glad to submit it, but there was actually one of these in
Mexico Beach and literally around it survived. Thank you. Y and that was during Hurricane Michael, which knock on wood, seven years. It never happens again. Never happens again. Pray, pray that. Pray that. So really, all I need is the
council's blessing for a short letter to the Department of Highway Safety, Motor Vehicles that says, "Yes, we can do this activity on that property that is already zoned." Does RV lot. So I don't know how to
You're looking for on-site RV sales. Yes. Just all Yeah. And and we only are going to sell the 60 if that would be a wonderful story. But yes, that's all we're doing. And but you the idea is you get a couple of models there. People walk in, we really like this one, but we
want this window over here. We want this. We want that. We call the factory. Factory then builds it specs, brings it in, and it ultimately gets set up and starts looking like the uh examples you have before you. Well, I make a motion to amend his
business license, including RV sales, and a letter to Can we have Mr. Sloan draft the letter to give my signature to give him? Your motion would be for onsite repeat sales. Yeah. The two out there is now
seem like they take up an awful lot of space. I'm trying to square inches are the same. Three of them would be there. They're no wider than a regular RV. They are an RV. I mean, the two part two of them out there are nice looking
building. Hold on a second. But I just uh Okay. 60 of them. Okay. Obviously, that's that's what we are zoned for with the RBs, but clearly we we Mr. D Mr. Dykes got a motion on the floor. Mr. Haney made a motion to
Mr. Hunt. Did Miss Okay, I couldn't hear so many people talking. So, we have a first and a second. Madam clerk, please call a roll. Miss Bford, yes. Miss Barrow, yes. Mr. Chapel, yes. Mr. Haney, Mayor Kelly. Yes. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Council, thank you, Mr. Dyes.
Thank you. Sometime in the next short period, somebody will get in contact with you. I'll uh I'll get Sloan will draft your letter up and get it signed, get it to you. Thank you. Thank you'all very much. If you will, if you'll generate a draft and email it to me in Word, I'll take a look at it. I've
got it. It's two sentences. Thank y'all so much. Have a great evening. See you. Um, this is a planning commission recommendation for consideration. Ladies and gentlemen, this is for Mr. Bford. He's here tonight to um ask for approval. Just so you
know, for the record so everybody can see me up there in that camera. uh Miss Bodford, count Commissioner Bodifford has signed a a waiver and she is going to abstain from this vote so that there's no conflict with uh with anybody who who who sees this h this business
happening. So the floor is open ladies and gentlemen I think I'm gonna let John Stevenson. John Stevenson, 208 Williamsburg Circle, Brentwood, Tennessee. So we've acquired
uh three lots there at 5708, 5710, and 5704 uh next to the the campground. And we would like to put in a RV, not an RV,
but a food truck uh facility for uh 12 food trucks and have a a building in the center approximately 2400 square feet. You have a TV uh could have a stage, place to sit. Uh I want this to be a
very upscale deal. We're developers in Nashville that specialize in turning around junk pieces of property. Some of the pictures that I've got in the front here are some of the other buildings that I've done and in guitar shops and
coffee shops and just really high-end things. I've gone into junk neighborhoods. Everybody was scared to be there and cleaned it up. And I've done the same thing here. I guess you guys have seen the the work we've been doing. But uh I want a place for my family to be here. I've got three of my
boys and three or four of their friends here. and just I want this to be a destination for us and uh just to to draw the community in and I really think it's going to be a great fit for this. So,
well, for what it's worth, council, you know, I've personally wanted a a food truck court. I went to Fort Walton Beach outside the Air Force Base. They've got one that's phenomenal. If you look online, you can look at Austin, Texas, they've got the best food truck.
I've never even made it a food truck court, but I'm so excited that you want to do that in Parker. It's going to change the look of the parkway. It's going to make it phenomenal, and I think it's something that we are in desperate need of. And um
uh that's that's my that's my two cents worth. I think it's if if we approve this, this will be something that we can be very proud of for the future. Mr. But anyway, uh he's saying that you're releasing the spots out.
Yes, ma'am. We're going to be That would pretty much keep the same people coming. That way you don't have all these other trucks that look No, we're going to be very very selective. I mean, We're going to bet them and we're going to
it's going to be first class. It won't be any any junk. It's going to be very similar to the big chill up in 3A where you got I mean the kids are running around. We're also going to have a big astroturf area. The sails up above it. I mean brand new
buildings. I mean poured concrete. Uh it's spend a lot of money up front to get this right. Not just get a few trucks in there and see what happens. Right. Individual water, sewer, electricity. Yeah. TVs, game days, just the center of the
community, social infrastructure, which I think this place really needs. Mr. Reg, I see you back in the room. Do you have any input on this particular Absolutely. Um, planning unanimously voted to allow
for this particular uh development to move forward. Um, it was based on several different reasons. Number one, there's no prohibitions in the CRA overlay district. Number two, there's no prohibitions in the in the MU1 that he exists in. Number three, the state of
Florida actually dictates that municipalities cannot dictate uh the rules surrounding when food trucks can come and go. They do set their own standards and the standards that they have identified to us met those state standards exactly. If you wanted to read
through it, it's section 509. The one thing uh that uh that Chuck uh identified they were going to be doing is they are going to have a commissary agreement. Food trucks can't wash their own dishes, for example. So, they have to have a restaurant-like agreement or a
commissary agreement with a fixed restaurant or a fixed building for sanitary purposes. They're going to do that. They're going to meet those uh those requirements. Uh there's a number of things that here are are identified uh and uh for example, um they're
meeting every one of those standards. So what planning does is we we check a development against any rules for prohibitions or anything that isn't identified. Um that's why the one thing we did identify to council is that it
was our part sort of a a loss on our part. We never identified the number of parking spaces required for this style of a business because this style of a business doesn't normally come in at a regular basis. So our recommendation to council was that you determine based on
this style of business how how many parking spaces are required. Um there is a section in planning however when you have for example a cash and carry business you you have the you can have one half the number of spots available
for parking. That's good for Parker because at the end of the day we flood here and the less pavement the better. Is isn't it fair to say though that people will come and go, come and go. They won't stay there all day. Yes, sir. And that's why I mentioned that exactly because uh other style
businesses where it's they like like the the new uh you know, seven brew coffee that's they they pull in, they get their stuff, and they go, right? So, you're not going to have uh you're going to have people in their business come. Some will come and pick it up and leave. Some will come and sit because the
development that they're planning and putting forward correct is uh very nice very you know shaded areas all kinds of other things. So again planning's job is to review all of the rules that we have in the land development rules the comprehensive plan for any reason why not and then we
usually instruct them in terms of what they have to do in order to comply. We found nothing that prevented this style development from going in with the single exception that we did not have standards for how many parking spaces were required for this style of a
business. So it was a was condition an approval based on the requirement that council be made aware that there were no required number of parking spots necessary or or the number wasn't
identified. So we asked you to do that. That's a tough one. Well, we have a very large parking lot and u I've also looks like I'm going under contract for the Korean church, too. And u so might even have some more
area available for all of this. But I've got two and a half acres or three acres currently and that would add another three acres. So, I mean, I I believe in parking. I know what I mean, for what we do in Nashville with our real estate industrial developments.
Yeah, we have a very large parking lot and if we need to do more, we're going to figure it out. Okay. You have a restroom figured out for you. Yes, sir. There's going to be at least four restrooms at where the garage is currently back there. We're going to
have three in that. U we're going to raise the roof up, have additional seating. It' be a 2400 foot building. uh up in the front close to that's going to be in the center of the horseshoe of all of them. But uh I mean I believe in keeping the restrooms clean and neat. I
don't like portage John's all this stuff is going to be I mean built out and approved go through your planning and okay get over complicated a turn link would it be necessary on del lane? I don't think so
because you think Fleming's been a street for a garage for 35 40 years. Never had a bunch of food trucks. Well, that's true. That's true. There's no I know there's no room for a del lane cuz he would own the property. It belongs to the trailer park next door,
RV park. So, there's just not businesses on Tindle Parkway down there. You have to go down. Yeah. Plus, we don't own that road. We can't just give permission for the state to dig up a state road. We have a turn lane going into Fleming Street. Yeah, that's cool. It's It's You're good.
So, will I make a motion that we allow the development? Got a first and a second. I'd like to add to that if we could. Since I can't make a motion, you decide what's a fair amount of parking over there because you'll know better than we do when they
put in buildings. Yes. So, we have a first and a second. Madam clerk, you call a role. Miss Barrow? Yes. Mr. Chapel? Yes. Mr. Haney? Yes. Mayor Kelly? Yes. Congratulations. Thanks for doing this for us. Yeah. Appreciate you.
All right. Next one is uh Mr. Baron. Are you here? How you doing? Cancelled. Hey, my name is uh Erin White. I'm actually um presenting on behalf of Solar Land Holdings. We purchased this lot from Mr. Bearing in
July of this year. And uh our request is just to take the lot. It's a one lot. We would like to to subdivide it into two lots to build two new construction homes. Right. Yes, sir. Um Mr. Regger, one quick thing before we
move forward with this. Was the planning approved for Mr. Baron or for the new owners? Mr. Baron, do you remember? He's not Mr. Baron. Uh it was on the August line
wasn't in this one. Does the rule still apply Mr. Baron would have to give some kind of permission to uh Mr. what what's your name sir?
My name is Aaron White. Aaron White. White. Yeah. Or we'd have to see a deed. It's not in the package. So what we're saying Mr. Regga is that the property ownership has changed from when you heard it to a new owner. So we got to have something that proves who they are and
own proof proof of ownership before we can approve it. When when it went to the planning council who did Mr. White come to you or Mr. Baron come to you? I believe it was actually me. Really? I don't know how it came. They got the guy's name still.
Yeah. I presented it to them on August 12th. This was signed on July 7th, right? The application was signed by Mr. Baron July 2nd, right? We purchased it July 31st.
Oh, that's the problem right there. Do you have a do you have a document that says it's yours? A deed, a title? Um, I can get you a copy of the deed. I don't have one handy. Okay. But yeah, our the deed does say we own it. Okay. That'll have to go to you, Mr. Sloan, wouldn't it? It's in the late We're going to have to table this until
our attorney looks it over. Okay. All right. Should I have him fill out another No, let's let Mr. Sloan decide. Well, I I think it would be prudent to have him as the current owner. Absolutely. Also fill out a I'll get you one. All right. We'll take care of that.
But just to be clear, Mr. White, you're just wanting to basically restore the lots back to their original platted condition. Um, I believe it was lots lots 11 and 12. Yeah, 11 and 12. And you just want to go back to those
same lot lines that were on the plat. You're not changing anything. No, no, no, we're not going to build a couple. Can we vote on this pending him getting you those documents? Confirm that he is the owner. Owner and the applicant.
I mean that the Mr. Reagan the concept was approved. Is is that correct, sir? I believe it was a couple of quick questions if I might as well. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. How how large is the lot right now? We we most of the stuff we have in the top of our heads. I just uh I don't
remember. So, these are the existing surveys. Yes, sir. And this is what we're wanting to propose. I'm sorry. This is the this is the existing survey. And this is what's the total lot size right now? I'm just making sure we're not 139 by 150.
And is that in low density residential or mixed use? It's residential. Yeah, low density res00. What's the square footage of that? 140 by one. So 7500 needed about 1450. What is that? 500. They're 105 each. Oh, that's way big enough. That's way
bigger than us now. Way more than enough. That's correct. But you're exactly right. We did approve it. There were there was no complications here, but we did approve it under the last ownership. Yeah, we got to that's got to be fixed. Um however uh as Mr. Sloan has identified I don't see any complications
there. I think we just have to show ownership and then you know they'll be okay thank you sir with a condition that he demonstrates that he puts out an application to show that he's the current owner and that he demonstrates the ownership.
Okay, we got a first and a second. Madam clerk, will you call the role, please? Miss Bford, yes. Miss Barrow, yes. Mr. Chapel, yes. Mr. Haney, yes. Mayor Kelly. Yes. Thank you, councel. Thank you. So, basically, if you'll get those
documents to Mr. Sloan, he'll review them and get an application from the clerk's office to redo, right? And you'll be good to go. If you could just Mr. White, just give both the whatever you've got to confirm ownership and the application to the clerk and she'll get it to me.
Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. Mayor Kelly. Yes, sir. Listen, Mr. Nar has a revision uh since we've already listened to it and I think the council may approve or at least reconsider his reision. Will you do that
for us? Yeah, we'll hear it. We go ahead. Go ahead. Okay. So, let's not have any RV um mobile homes there. We just want a professional office. We are going to be our own customers pretty much. And we're still going to be open to the public, but we just want a professional office.
Isn't there RVs already there? No, sir. Mobile home sitting there. A tan one. Not on that. Not on that in the front yard in the front lot. There's no tan mobile donut shop. There's a donut shop. Okay. All right.
There's a building beside the donut shop. Then the office is on that property. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Okay. So, we just No. No. So, you just want Now you're saying you want to revise this to this will just be your business office? Yes, sir. Professional office. No mo no mobile homes there.
Miss Ber, is this the old Marine Corps league building? I believe so. That's what they're asking for. That's what that was, was it for the hurricane? What was it? Recruiting. A recruiting office. It was a recruiting office in the Marine Corps League.
Are you changing any of the exterior? It would just be sign up and in interior. We're cleaning up. We're going to paint the building. Business license. You just need a business license. That's right. You don't need permission from us at all. Well, you need business license.
For business license. Yeah. But I've already applied for a business license. I needed to come in front of the board. Council approval for a business license. Okay. So So what he's asking for apparently already did his paperwork. He's asking for a business license. And what you're saying now is that there'll
be no mobile homes lined up there. Now, you know, you could come and take the mobile home for yourself if you find one there. I Well, now I won't have to because you're going to have some heavy equipment right there on that spot. Have you looked at the blueprints for this new bridge? Yes. It's right on top of your building. Your
RVs are going to be under the bridge. I understand. You won't have any. You won't have any, will you? So, that's good. All right. Council, it's up to you. Well, Mr. Mr. or Nasser, however you pronounce it.
It given the fact you're only requiring uh a business license at this point. I mean, the council can act if they want to, but technically it what you're asking for now doesn't require a development permit because you're not doing anything
to develop to develop. In other words, correct? But state Florida Highway Patrol told me I need a letter that you guys will let me open up a business there. It's okay to open up a mobile home dealer here. Not going to have any displays
with the council's permission. I can I can we need to verify that letter to uh let them know that he he can operate an office there. After you verify with the state that that's what correct in layman's terms that would be a business license, right? Right. Hopefully he needs a business
license. Yeah, I don't I don't I wouldn't mind him having an office there. I just didn't want big old gigantic mobile home. Right. We can get rid of that idea. Just the professional office. Make a motion. I'll make a motion that
it's not necessary. He's got to do the letter. How about how about you make a motion, Miss Barrow, to authorize me to to draft a letter and send to uh the appropriate parties advising them that he has the ability to
operate an office there. I make that motion. Motion's made. Do we have a second? We have a first and a second. Madam clerk, will you please call a role? Miss Barrow? Yes. Bford? Yes. Mr. Chapel? Yes. Mr. Haney?
If he's got a business license, we don't need to contract the city attorney to spend what? $300 an hour to make a letter. I'll pay the 300 for him to make that letter. I'll pay for it. You will? Now you said it. You will. I'll pay for it. You guys want pays for that?
Attorney's letter. I will say yes. Do we ever have to get a letter for anybody else to have a a license? No, it's not necessary. Mr. D. Mr. Nice. Well, I've already applied for my business. I turned it in.
All right, Mayor Kelly, I need your vote. Yes, whatever I need to do to get this taken care of. Mr. Haney, do I have a Yes. Yes. Yes. 300 bucks. Not a problem. Do you want me to pay that now? Payable. Do you want me to payable to the city of
Parker? Give the clerk. When we come back from my son's chemo treatment, I'll come and get the letter and I'll pay her to 300. Okay. Thank you. Okay. So, we're good. We're good. Thank you. We're good. Have a good evening, sir. Thank you. Okay. Mr. Chapel, you got the floor.
What you got? Um, no. Everybody left. So, yeah. Really, the only thing we got is Saturday. We got the yard sale. Okay. Mr. Mr. Haney, you got anything, sir? I've got a couple things. I was
fortunate to meet with Mr. Sumland last week about putting parking area, the Pete Park, and he's he proposed to put like a loop shaped driveway in along with parking on that same property on the hill.
On the hill. Yes. Make a cut through where they can pull in. They can leave out the same way. make some parking that alleviates the parking for the boat launch. Boat launch. Yeah. From the crowding. But, uh, do we need a motion from I don't know. This is the first I've
heard of it. Um, we we talked about the peak parking before. Yeah. It's been month. Didn't we agree that they were going to have to park up on the top and walk down? I thought that's what we said we were going to do. This would help alleviate some of the parking problems that are existing still. I mean, when when we when we rent
the building, it completely takes up the parking in the parking lot, and that's what they're trying to do. Can you hit on that, Mr. Summer? So, when I spoke to Mr. Haney, I told him we were going to reach out to find out if this is possible. We still haven't got the answer yet. Um, they wanted us to submit a master site plan
because that's not our land, is it? Well, it's our land, but it's restriction. We have every year we have to check all the boxes that we're doing everything that we said we would do to acquire that land, right? Um, our proposed overflow parking was a sports complex, but we have notified them that our sports complex
parking lot has now moved and it's made it a further distance from the Pete Park than what it originally was. So what we've proposed to them is if they would allow us 12 additional parking spots in the front, two for ADA handicap and then 10 for more for like children unloading
and just basically more parking because when we do have an event there, it makes it almost impossible for a truck and trailer to launch his boat because there's no parking because there's no room. And everybody here knows that they've rent the building. They drive all the way up there anyhow to unload their car
and then they don't bring their car off there anyhow. So, if it's approved, if it's if it's approve, if if they'll approve it and then y'all have conditionary approved it right now to allow us to move forward, then what we would look at doing is is we would try to establish at least 12 parking spots
facing away from the pea park facing at Lake Drive. And that would be gravel. Yes. Yeah. Basically, so we skim the dirt off and just do the whole thing really. Right. Well, what we want to probably look at doing is is try to bring the ground's uphill right now. So try to grade it down level playing with the pea
park so that way when you pull in we won't have to try to people worry about accident backing out or just put an apron to where they can drive right back out. So yeah, it needs something done to it. I mean 12 is not going to be enough. I can tell you but it'll be an improvement. And Mr. Haney's talking about this
this arc. What would you do? Be able to come off 98, go through there, I mean off of Lake and come through there back down onto the parking lot. You'd pull straight in like you normally do. Yeah. And then you would drive going toward the pea park and park facing Lake Drive all the way up. Okay? So you'd be So we wouldn't have to worry
about somebody parking towards the building and hit the building. We'd want them to pull toward the highway. Okay? But that's what we So what are we talking about? How much to do this? It's be realistic. I mean the gravel is going to be 10 grand probably.
Big crushed asphalt. Yeah, I I I really don't know what we could pos we possibly could coordinate this even with our road resurfacing and be able to use the millings and then take the millings from the and then skin the grass off and then put the millings in there. So, we might not have any cost because we're we're going to remove a bunch of
So, how do you feel about that, John? If we took the dirt the grass off cuz we're going to pave these roads, we could black top that that whole area up there with the millings from the streets. That's so genius. I thought about that a week ago.
Okay, that's that's awesome. That's what we're looking at to be honest with you. The crushed asphalt work better than gravel person gravel. Well, it's it's uh Yeah. Okay. Well, if you think we can do it, but Tony and And it's not going to be overly expensive. I I'm I'm for paving it.
I I don't I don't feel it will. We're just going to wait for their response and we're going to put it in line with the other projects we already have going on. I mean, it won't be overnight happening, but if they approve it, and y'all already approved it now, then once we get their approval, we can move forward. Okay. All right. So, we need a motion to do this. I guess
I'll make motion. We have a motion. We need a second. Second. We have a motion to second. You call a roll, please. Miss Barrow? Yes. Miss Bford? Yes. Mr. Chapel? Yes. Mr. Haney? Yes. Mayor Kelly? Yes. Thank you very much. Second thing,
John, the new We've talked about this as well, the new boat or the new pier at the along shore there. If you happen to throw a cast net
off of it, the way they built this pier, there's extruding threads, but catch the net when it flies. Catch somebody's net. You're going to have all kind of people about end of October bullet starting to run. People cuss and carry on.
Mr. Someone come up with the idea put some kind of rubber caps over. I don't know. Mr. Someone, don't talk to me. So, I don't know. He only talks to you. I don't blame him. Yeah. Keeps him out of trouble that way. But anyway, if you go down there and look, you see a bunch of these lag bolts are sticking
out. That be half inch inch long bit of What do you think, Mr. Solo? Tell us what you think. I I when he brought it to my attention, I told him we would do some research to see if they have any device that we could cover the nuts. Okay. Tell me what you want me to do. That's that's we're still we're doing
that research. Okay. Anything else? That's all I got. Okay, ladies. No, I don't have anything to talk about. I've got a few things. when you're done this years back um I brought to the council
to discuss with them about putting the time clock in city hall here for the employees in here and it was put in here and it stayed for years and then it was gone and I'm I feel that it's time that the time clock
needs to be put back in here a time clock maybe something up to date and I would like feels about it. It would be a better tracking device for coming going and the people that it's
off or whatever. And I just think it's a good idea to go ahead and put it back in. This is something we need the council's approval for or just install it. Why would the council have to slide it?
Well, I'm sure they got newer things today that can calculate better than the old ones did. But I just I'm to the point now where I really think that we need to put time off. Okay. What do I need? A motion and a second.
We have any discussion? I ain't clocking in. You what? I not not before 10:00. Don't expect me to couple of days a week. Mr. Chapel, you have anything you want
to talk about? No. On this subject? On this subject? Do you have any conversation on the time? Okay. Well, I'll make a motion. I'll second. We have a motion in a second. You please call the role, Madam Second Clerk.
Miss Barrow? Yes. Miss Bford? Yes. Mr. Chapel? Yes. Mr. Haney? Yes. Mayor Kelly? Yes. Now, do you have anything else? I think Okay. Thank you. I got a couple of things. One's going to require a vote,
one won't. Um over the years the park donation system has slowly slowly and slowly deteriorated. Um I would like to abolish the dollar a
month park donation. It is more of a head a headache to keep track of and it would be easier if someone wants to donate to the city of Parker than they just donate and the money go through that steel box that's up front there and be recorded with
immediate receipt at that time. Um, now we have people in Parker who have made wonderful charitable donations that are now being criticized and foyer requests being levied
to find out where the money came from and what it was used for. And I I I it's going to dissuade me from giving another penny personally if I have to have a foyer request to answer
where I may have gotten that money or if I took it out of my wallet and gave it to Parks and Recreation. So, what I would like to propose is that we no longer have a park donation box on our water bill that if you want to come
and make a park donation, you just come in city hall and you make the park donation out front like you would any other bill that the ladies have a a way in BSN to type it in. So, I open the floor for conversation on this. Well, I don't have a problem with it
because of the the issue that has public records request about that dollar donation and it's just it's sickening that someone would want to know down to your penny what that dollar was spent on in the parks and recreation which who
knows it was on gas it was on weed killer it was on if I give Mr. sland money to buy gravel. I don't follow him around saying how much did you pay for every ounce of gravel. I just say this is you this is a project and this is what you got.
Well, I I'll just say that the last time I came to the city council and asked the city council, I actually asked for charcoal burn bins at Earl Gilbert. And I might be incorrect by saying this, but I think Miss Gabborth
made the mo the motion or talked about using park donation money to pay for those. And that was the last time the council voted to spend that park donation money on an item which was charcoal bins. And since then, that charation money has just been
where we have we I haven't budgeted to spend any of it. Well, I'd like to get away with it and not have it anymore. You know what what is the act? Does anybody have a ballpark on what we get a year on that? Do you have any?
I don't I don't know. I have no idea. I know it cost me more to have foyer requests answered than the donations accumulate in their entirety. It used to be way back 20 years ago when when I first started here, it used to be significant when we had the ball fields,
baseball going, everything, but over the years it has extremely dwindled down. I mean I mean payments. You can $30 a month if that. It's It's nothing. So, $360 in a whole year. It's not much.
We have a couple of citizens who will give an extra five, but it's literally just a few people. Well, you take the dollar off, put a hundred bucks on there, and see how it goes from there. So, if if you want to keep it, we can keep
it. But I'm I'm asking you, but we don't keep it. I agree. I think we should take it off there. So, we have to vote it. I'll second it. You make a motion, John? Yes. Okay. Thank you. We have a motion. Do we have a second? I'll second it. We have a motion and two seconds.
Call four seconds. Could you please call a roll? Miss Barrow? Yes. Miss Bford? Yes. Mr. Chapel? Yes. Yes. Mayor Kelly? Yes. I've got one last item for us to vote on. Council, um, this is really
good if if if you'll support this. Um, our good public works director, Mr. Sumlan, has uh we are we are asking to buy $224,783 [Music]
worth of playground equipment. It's one piece for 5 to 12 year olds and one piece to two to 5 year olds. We have a grant match of $88,727. That also includes assembly of these two
pieces of equipment and includes the fall zone, which is like the little rubbery things the kids fall in. Uh the amount will be $136,56 that we'll owe if we don't have
funding for this. However, we budgeted for $65,000 as a portion of the purchase of this equipment. And this is no junk. This is some high-end stuff. That left us a balance of $71,56.50.
what they're asking for and what I believe is correct and true. They'd like to spend that money that they just got from selling all their old equipment in the auction. It'll cost the city nothing. We've already sold it and we have 71,5650
plus in that account that we can pay this off. In other words, he'll get this he'll get his equipment for 224783 and we won't it won't cost us a penny because we've already got the money. [Music]
So, we open the floor. We need to add swings out there. This is way more than that. This is This is some good stuff. We've never had stuff like this before. Can they burn it? Can they saw it down? Well, I would tell you no, but yes, they
probably will if they get and you know, probably. Probably. To be honest with you, Miss Barl, I'm surprised our pirate ship's still there. I am, too. And I'm surprised no one's put it on a trailer and left with it. I've been wanting to do that as to it for years.
Well, he's found a way. He's found a way. It's quarter million dollars. Can we play with it, too? We turn right we can. Turn right. We can. I'll fix your watch. But what he's asked me to ask you for, he wants me to let give get you to give him permission to
spend his auction money from all the junk that we sold um and leftover equipment and trucks and whatever whatever else he sold to to be able to pay for this cash. And I for you want to take money. Do we have an idea of what kind of equipment you're talking of like a
merrygoround or Yeah. So, basically the two big pieces of equipment, the one the one for the 5 to 12 years olds is is extremely large. Um, I wish I had a picture of it. I should have brought one. It's my fault. But it has five or six slides on it.
It's all metal poles, metal structure, you know, just all different kind of arrangements, climbing bars, and just it's just a massive piece of equipment that's got multi-function for, you know, like I think it it's rated for like 18 to 20 children at one time. And then the two to five year old one is just a real
small piece of equipment that's a slide and little little kids can climb on the stuff with like a little um shade over top of it. What about the shade over the oven because that's going to be so hot. Yeah, I mean that might be future that we look at putting some of those Amazon shades like we got up front over it. Um just the biggest expense that we
didn't when we went for the grant. We thought the grant was going to cover the fall zone and the assembly and the stuff in there and that's not covered under the grant. just the structure is. So that's why we got a shortfall of our money was we didn't know that all that was going to come out. But basically
it'll have a border around it and it'll just be real fine almost like sawdust in it. I'll make a motion to buy and use the money from the auction, right? Leftover cash. Okay, we have a first. We have a second. Second.
Got a first and a second. Madam clerk, please call a role. Miss Barrow, yes. Miss Bford, yes. Mr. Chapel, yes. Mr. Haney. Yes. Mayor Kelly. Yes. Very much so. Ron, will you watch it for us when you're over there in the morning? Give us a report back.
Thank you everybody. There's watch dogs down there watching. They're gone. Did you see those pictures that ladies?