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MEETING SECTIONS:

Part 1 (Video ID: MWiLUIujrS4):
- 00:00:00: Meeting Called to Order, Invocation and Introductions
- 00:05:20: Approval of Meeting Minutes and Yard Sale Promotion
- 00:07:39: Discussion of Shed Variance and Property Setbacks
- 00:15:49: City Attorney Bids: Request for Proposals Motion
- 00:20:06: Contract Bidding Procedures: Attorney RFP First
- 00:26:46: Public Comment: Concern About Feeding Stray Cats
- 00:31:00: Feeding Neighbor's Cats and Setting Up Donation System


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Thank you, ma'am. Good afternoon, everybody. Um, we don't have a lot on the agenda tonight. However, I did I do like to have a meeting even if there's nothing pressing because you there might be items from the audience or something that we need

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to talk about that we wouldn't if we didn't have this. So, um, if you could, um, we need to, uh, call the meeting to order, which I have, and, um, the invocation, if you wouldn't mind, uh,

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doing the blessing for us. >> Absolutely. >> Let us pray. >> Heavenly Father, we submit this meeting to you and ask for direction. guide our agenda and help us stay focused on what truly matters. Remove distractions and

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unnecessary detours. Show us the right path forward in every matter we discuss as we trust in you. We also ask that you continue to overt one nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all.

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>> Okay, everybody, please be seated. Let me see what we got here. Uh, the only regular agenda item is the approval of the minutes. >> Oh, I thought we did that already. We

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didn't. I apologize. >> Would you call the role, please? >> Mrs. Barrow, >> here. >> Mrs. Bodford, >> here. >> Mayor Kelly >> here. >> Mr. Haney, >> Mr. Chap, >> here. >> Can I start, Kate?

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>> I You didn't you're not happy with it? >> You may proceed, sir. >> Okay. Um, so we need to uh we need to decide what about the minutes. That's the only thing we have on the agenda. >> Do we?

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>> Does anybody anybody >> does anybody I want to thank you uh for that tremendous welcome to Parker sign. I drove through there the other day. >> Did you see it lit? Did you see it lit? >> Didn't see it lit, but I saw the letters on it. I wasn't sure how it was all

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going to come together, but I think it's a very nice entrance to our town. I think we really boosted a couple of stars in terms of the entrance to city. >> Tony had the electricians in there. It's all wired up. And my next thing, I

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haven't told the council yet, but I'm going to put a big arch over the parkway like the that the president's putting in Washington DC. I'm going to do one when you come off the bridge. 150 foot big arch. Me and Tony are going to build.

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>> We live in this town and sometimes we forget. It's easy to forget how beautiful the and getting better every day. >> This is some pristine area for fishing for just that. Um I uh there was information that

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the Air Force had put out about three months ago. >> They've lifted that. Yeah. >> But there's still three that they permanently prevented us from. Just be aware of that so you don't get >> Yeah, the fuel bio is the main one. >> I think pretty bio is one of them.

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There's there's three or four now that they said if there's boats in there, it could impact their security. >> Well, I'm sure the security forces are probably going to ask you to leave if you're in there because >> Yeah. >> Thank you for the

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>> All right, brother. Thank you. You're welcome. Does anybody else have anything they'd like to come and talk to us about? Anything else nice to say? Okay, very good. >> You want to go and tell what the fire look like after we put the trees and

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bushes and stuff on there? We just went to a property that's getting right now around itself. >> We're good. Okay. Um the minutes They're pretty extensive. They're in

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this folder if you've had a chance to review them. >> I'm in need of a first and a second in order to move forward. >> Make a motion. >> We have a motion to accept the minutes as they are. >> We have a second.

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>> Madam clerk, will you call the role? >> Miss Barrow? >> Yes. >> Miss Bford? >> Yes. Mayor Kelly, >> I'm last. Go ahead. >> Okay, Mr. Hay, >> Mr. Chapel, >> Mayor Kelly. >> Yes. Thank you, council.

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Um, since we only had the one item on the agenda, I'm going to throw it out to Ron. You got the floor, my brother. You got some big things going on. Tell us about them. The only thing I got going on is this Saturday we're having a yard sale at the

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pavilion and uh it's free anybody wants to come here and set up. We had 12 vendors last last come out. So there's quite a lot of stuff together. Most of the stuff is all

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cheap. So if you really need anything that's inexpensive, come on out. The money that I sell at my place is uh all going to buying bushes and stuff like that for the park. So it's more of

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a donation type of deal. And then the end of the month, we've got the uh rib cook off that starts at 4:00. It's a covered dish affair, but we're

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supplying the ribs and hot dogs for the kids if they don't eat ribs. Well, anybody wants a hot dog. trying to have a snow cone machine out there and I've got a DJ that's going to

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be out there. Uh we're going to have some kid games. It's just going to be a kind of a fun day, but it's Memorial Day. It's a holiday for most people.

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That's it. >> Brother John, you got the floor. >> Yes, sir. I apologize for not making that last meeting. >> Eric Eric told us about your >> Yes, I nervous kicking my tail right now. I can barely sit in this chair, but

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I found a comfortable spot. So, I'm here for a minute. >> So, if you want, you can take that chair home. >> No, I don't like this chair. I have to sit cramped up be comfortable. Anyway, uh the last meeting that y'all had, it was referencing the gentleman that

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wanted to build on his to see it fit his motor. Correct. SH which is already a 10 by 24 shed. From what I understand, >> it might be a 12 by 24. >> 12. >> No, 10 by 24. Is it okay?

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>> I understand he's not going to be able to pass a variance. >> There's just no way. >> Of course, >> the lot's as big as this room. I I kind of question how somebody cannot fit a motorcycle into a 10 by 24 shed, >> right?

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>> I don't understand how that's not possible because he's not going to pass a variance. There's no way you can pass a >> Well, there is there is there is a way. There is a way because um Mr. Slan I ask

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everybody to go see him and Summerland. Mr. someone and I have talked about it and there is a way it can be done >> if he combines his other lot with >> correct >> okay >> that's what the recommendation is >> right >> from the building department >> well understand he's not he doesn't want

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to go that well he just wants to make a shed bigger >> well >> which is >> that's what we're here for >> I I don't see where he's got a leg to stand on that kind of situation he's doing what he's got to do I

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see where if we allowed him to do that, we'd have to allow everybody else in Parker, >> right, >> to do the same with their property, >> right? >> So, I don't think he has a chance. >> As an extension of what you're saying, I had a shock. I was out with Mr. Someone. We go out two or three times a week and

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I hadn't been out for a couple weeks and we were on the dirt road behind the regga's house and we'd give them permission for these folks to build a pole barn and it's supposed to have a 5ft set back. 5 in is what they truly got.

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>> Awesome. >> Well, you didn't say how far the fence Well, could be >> 8t from the other side of the fence. >> Well, it could, but then it would be in the road. >> Sure. So there is that. But what I asked

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the council to do and I appreciate you doing that, we have to I would like us to make a decision what we want to do in this particular case. Uh if he needs to come for a variance,

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then he needs to come for variance. >> But that's for us and and if he my understanding is he's been talking with Mr. someone for quite some time on this subject matter and

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I he asked me I've asked you I gave you the copies. It's our our call to see what we want to do. >> Yeah. Well, I can say he's not passive. There's no way you can see. >> Have you been to that property?

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>> I have not. >> Okay. >> I'm looking I'm talking about the setbacks the building's >> my only thing is for one, he's at the end of a private road >> that backs up to a lake. >> Um I've lived in that house for a couple years. Chuck has lived in that house for

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25 years. Um you can't see the shed from the road unless you're sitting basically at his front door. >> Um as far as it causing an issue or impeding somebody else's property, it wouldn't do that because right next to

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him is a lift station. >> The shed's not as big as you would think. How big is it? What? I think it's actually 10 by 18. I don't even think it's >> He made a drawing. You should have got a copy of it. They're supposed to give you

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a copy. >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> Yeah. Come to the podium. >> No, I know. But the clerk gave him I asked Clark to give him a copy. >> So, you've got a lot of issues with the ship. So, Right now technically the shed

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is not performing but it's technically grandf issue I spoke with him is that we don't know the shed is sitting he doesn't want to pay for a survey to find out one way or not he finds out where it is and if it is on our property

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then it's got to If it truly is on his property, it's if he goes to it or change it, he now has to be 5t away from our fence our property. >> Then if he moves it, >> who verifies that, Mr. Someone can tell

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me >> who verifies that five feet. >> We are supposed to when we issue permits. >> So how did that house we've seen this week with a big barn get it five inches from the property line? It should be laying on the back of

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>> accessory structures. >> Well, they're supposed to check on they said that they were checking, but we go back and double check when it's a pole supposed to be and that's where it's supposed to be.

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So, when some of these go up, we are going out on accessory permits and stuff to try to verify because we are getting you know the runoff's coming off. The problem with a pole bar is you got to watch out the pole can be 5t away but if they got two foot overhang then that water actually runs right into the

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neighbor's yard because it's not so we got to try to work with that a little but so I said once he once he goes to alter that shed in any way he triggers a side set back separation from the house set back front set back I mean you're a variance for each one of those

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so it's like four vari just put a car on the front. I gave him two suggestions which was put the carport on the front of his house because he attaches it to the front of the house. He can park wherever he wants. He can attach it. It's all it's not an accessory structure that has

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attachment of his house. That was the first option. The next option was buy your two partials, move your shed into that second partial and put all the >> So would that change his grandfathering? If he moves it over, no

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structure sitting on a partial that's not primary. So if he combines his partials, moves the shed over there and puts his car, he can build whatever he wants. It's all one unit. >> For the council's edification, can you tell us what he told you when you

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suggested that to him? He said that he didn't that piece of property by being a separate partial was worth $35,000 and he didn't want to buy the partial because he might get financial >> that would cause you to fail the test,

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wouldn't it? That statement >> okay well I did what I was asked to do council so Unless he's driving a great motorcycle. >> No, it's it's one of them three-wheel motorcycles. >> 14 foot. >> I don't know. I just I repeated back

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what I was told and I did what I was asked. >> I I'll just give you my input. I'm sorry. I wasn't here last time. >> No, that's quite all right. >> The second thing you spoke about city attorney. >> Well, can we put this first thing to bed first when we move on?

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>> We done about that. >> Well, do do we want to talk any more about it? >> Now that Tony has explained it to me, I understand what he's saying that if it was grandfathered in, it has to stay like it is. >> I wouldn't change it if it was me because I wouldn't lose that grandfather clause.

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>> Exactly. >> I wouldn't risk it. But, uh, >> but Like if he's got another parcel, he can build whatever he wants on it. >> Okay. >> All right. And I'm okay with that. So I'll pass that. >> Anybody else feels the same way.

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>> Okay. Okay. Mr. H, you got the floor. >> As far as a city attorney issue goes, yes, of course we should go back for RFP for searching for different attorneys. I think you've saved the city 6,000 the past few times he's not been

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here. >> Correct. I didn't realize that much that $150,000 a year. >> I don't want you to think that I'm a miser, but I read every bill that we get. I look at every check that we sign and I look at everybody's expect, you know, what we lay out. That's how you

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save and >> Sure. >> So, are you making a motion that we should go out for RFP? Is that what you want to do? >> Well, I'd like to have a little conversation about it. You probably don't talk about all you want. I don't know, but I'm just >> We didn't talk about it much. We just kind of touched upon it and then we were

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waiting for you to come back. So, we were all here. >> Well, I almost think we kind of money $150,000 a year. We can almost hire a city attorney at least part time for way under that amount. >> I think we could probably get one that didn't have a that gave us a flat rate for the year for a lot less than that.

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>> You can almost hire a part-time city attorney that might have some criminal knowledge. I think that's one thing Chief Baxley needs is having at criminal going to the state attorney's office get advice on some of these cases.

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>> Yeah. >> Seemed like all the department heads have issues with the turnaround time I get responses from any questions they have through the attorney. Yeah, he does seem like he's

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a little pricey. I respect the guy. He's got a great knowledge of the history. >> Yeah, >> I respect that. We're moving forward. >> Of course, he might be able to tell you about 1995, but we know we need to know about 2025. >> Well, and I agree with that, John. >> Yeah, I would make a motion we go for

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RFP for city attorney. Yeah. >> As well as engineering firms or insurance, but just to go across the board, all these contracts we have within the city, >> we need to RFP them all.

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>> Might as well, especially engineering firm. I know we have one, but I don't know how that works. >> Well, it'll be a challenge. >> Shouldn't that all go out to bid? Anytime we have an engineering project, we should go out and bid for these company instead of just relying on

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Miss >> Well, it's the same with the attorney as it is the engineer. We pick one and then that's the one, >> right? Well, it's not been per year lately. It's been per 10 years or 15 years.

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That's how it's been here. I've seen the past year. >> Just so I'm clear in my mind that what you want me to do. You want me to do an RFP on all the contracts >> across the board? >> All of them. >> Okay, that's your motion. >> Yes, sir. >> Do I have a second for that?

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>> We have a first and a second. any conversation. >> It's a procedure. Um, we would put an ad in the paper. I would take it one contractor at a time and we will put an ad in the paper for

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folks that want to bid on the work. In other words, if uh other attorneys want to bid uh uh then they can. If nobody else bids, then we'll have to decide if we want to change the hourly rate or whatever it is

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we choose to do. And that would be the same for each contractual agency. So, we go, I'm just using this for an example. We would go from uh the attorney to the engineer to the insurance company and we

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would just bid them out, see if anybody, it's not uncommon, happens all the time. um uh we would bid it out and then we would see if we could actually get a better rate for the same same service and then we would have a chance each of

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us would have a chance to uh go through it with them and interview them like we did with life insurance Blue Cross Blue Shield um and go from there. I'm not for changing any of the insuranceances. I think the employees deserve every bit of insurance that they get. If we can find

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someone that will sell it to us cheaper, that'd be a good thing. But, uh, yes, ma'am. >> I believe it's been about a year, maybe two years, we had the discussion about Mr.

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Then so >> do you recall that conversation what it was about? >> I do costern pointed out to the room how much money she saving city. So I mean you have to look

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back and find out what exact words were but it was quite a discussion. She came with a letter and she was prepared. So I understand what you're trying to do, but just recall this has been approached once before

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and >> what was the outcome before? Do you remember >> pretty much at that time? No changes were necessary. >> Okay. She claimed she was saving the city a lot of money. Of course, she's

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been with the city for probably 20 years now. >> So, >> she's maintain her, >> but we've never had a voice come in from another engineering firm that could say,

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"Yay or nay, we could save you money or not." >> That's what I'm trying to $100,000 for the city. I'd do a triple back. >> You can't you got >> Okay.

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>> It's been something in my mind for a long time. >> Merry, you have the floor. >> Nothing. Okay. >> Okay. Okay. Well, we have a motion. Mr. Haney is asking me to I won't be able to do it instantaneously. It might take me a couple months to get it all squared away.

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>> Come on, man. >> I'll do my best. But >> is there is there a way that we could spread it out? Can we start with one? >> Yeah, we'll write a list of all the people that we have contracts with. And >> I would work with the city attorney one first. >> Yeah. >> And then it goes for a little while,

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then work on that way. It's not done all one time. >> The attorney issue seems like most pressing, right? >> Exactly. So, is it fair to say that we could do the attorney first and then a little bit later, then work on one that way? Doing it all at one time just seems like a whole lot.

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>> Yeah. Well, I think however we do it, we should do it slowly and cautiously because if it's worked for 10 or 20 years, we make a change to save some money, but hopefully it's going to work for another 10 or 20 more. >> That's what I would say. >> And um I I >> But I would definitely say yes, the city

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attorney I'm with John on that one. >> Okay. >> I do believe it's fair that we to price this out. >> Do Do you want to start with one and work your way down the list like that? >> We can do that as long as we don't lose track of the list. >> Exactly. >> I mean, it seems like a lot of times we

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bring up something that uh Yes, it's fun at first and you kind of lose interest in it, >> right? >> Just ball down, I guess. But yeah, as long >> Well, I'm of the opinion if we're going to do one, we should do them all. >> Yeah, of course. Of course we should. >> You know, and we should have a checklist. Miss Stanley, I'd like you to

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prepare me a list tomorrow of all the contracts that we have with everybody. >> This city council should do this every two to five years just automatically just review all right >> like I said these contracts get you comfortable the city

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out there. Yeah. >> Well, it becomes a monopoly sometimes. >> Of course. >> Okay. So, we have a first. Do we have a second to vote? >> You do. We have a first and a second. Will you please call the role? >> Okay. Miss Barl,

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>> Miss Bifford, >> yes. >> Mr. Hay, >> yes. >> Mr. Chapel, >> yes. >> Mayor Kelly, >> yes. >> Council, I will start first thing in the morning and I will work my way through all of the contracts that we currently

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have and I'll get Miss Stanley to report to you how many um contractors we have and we'll go from there. and I'll have them keep a list of um how much we save because I think we will save some money. I really do.

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>> My hats off to you for for seeing this and and saving the city >> every every Tuesday. Every Tuesday I go through every line item of every expenditure, John. Everyone. I take that so seriously. You

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probably people in the office probably get sick of hearing the mayor say, you know, cut back this, cut back that, don't do this, don't do that. But we were in a bad bad way five years ago and we're not there no more. And I don't want us to ever get back how it was. And

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maybe, you know, not spending is good. You know, spending less is good. And uh we we're right now with all of our departments, we are right where we need to be. Everything's firing just

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like it should. Everything's going just like it should. And u and I appreciate you. Okay. You have anything? You got the floor? >> You sure you don't want nothing? Miss Barry, you everything? >> Yes.

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The last council meeting council as a reserve as president. I' already make a point of know that person

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kept on and on things about I neverceioned I ask the council if there's anything you can do that people could be held responsible

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for feeding and fixing their cats. That's what I ask for. Yes, I feed about 15 cats and they're on my property and no, they're not feral cats. They're somebody's cats. They sit in my lap. They come up to me. That's not fair. And I would suggest they look up they got

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such legal stuff but all they went through the whole thing of how it's not legal really to be feeding feral cats and went on about the humane society talked to them

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you'll see all I feel like I was threatened by accusing me of being well I just want to make it clear that what and I hope that council understood what I was saying that I was

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here because trying to keep people if you got animals you need to be responsible there >> shame on her feet complaining because you got a heart. >> Shame on her. >> If a cat comes up to me and it wants to

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eat, I'm going to feed you. >> And it's nobody's business what I do. And especially somebody that live in Parker, never lived in Parker. Don't own any property anymore in Parker and don't even live in the state of Florida. >> And I'm just tired of it. I don't want

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to be quoted of something I did not say. I said nothing. I never even spoke of feral cat and I kept talking about the people of the street that their cats are coming to that that's their cats not barrel >> and they need to look up the meaning of

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barrel and >> well I'm sure they will tomorrow. >> I don't I really don't care because I'm sure after this there'll be a long bunch of BS that they have to write up in their opinion because that's what they got just to stir up something to make

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people or make fun of somebody or talk bad about them. So, I just wanted to get it clear that I know the council understood what I said and I know the people who were here know what I was talking I understand what she said and I really

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think I know what happened is they took that YouTube video and threw it into chat GPT and said make me notes and that's exactly what happened. >> So, it's your neighbor's cat that keeps on coming over. You know, there's

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a given no address or no name, nothing. There's people up the street that have cats and they they don't get them fixed. >> Miss Burrow, it's not that big of a deal. You're dealing with individuals that can't you. These folks have no they have they don't live in Parker.

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>> They Well, I'm talking to >> They come here and they think that they could tell us. >> They don't feed them and they don't fix them. They come to my house and I spent what was it three or four weeks ago? 300 something dollars to get one of those cats fixed to come to my house on New

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Year's Eve morning and it was a little kitten and yes it says I was accused of it. I don't have to accuse somebody when I see their sisters and brothers running around in their yard. I mean >> so to answer your question last week

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there is no legal way to do anything to those folks. um uh it's not the job of law enforcement to go around and do anything to them. However, however, um there are code violations and

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one of those people um now is fully aware of what those code violations are. And um I don't think that we'll ever hear the end of this. Crybaby, you were 100% right. There's nothing wrong with

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having a a conscience or or caring about these little creatures. And uh I feel sorry for them, Tanya. I feel sorry for her. That's all she can do with her life is to be a crybaby >> and and and accuse you of breaking the

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law because you fed a wild cat for God's sake, you know. But for some time, folks, we've been talking about having a day every few months at the fire station where we'll accept charitable donations of uh food,

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animal food that we could then take it, Higgins would then take it to the different uh organizations in the county so that they have enough to feed these these creatures and stuff that they get. Not just cats and dogs, but lions and tigers, I guess. We Yeah. So, we're

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going to put out a flyer in the next city newsletter and we're going to accept donations at our volunteer fire station and we're going to give those donated food packages to whoever agencies they decide they're going to do.

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>> Maybe Mrs. O'Brien, you could get me a list of the people that feed wild animals so I could take the food to them. >> I mean, >> we got a list because I know quite a few of them. Every time we get Yeah,

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>> a good one. Chuck and I are friends with the owner of BFF Rescue. >> That's good. >> There's one that's got wild animals and stuff. I don't know what they're called, but whatever they are. I'm up for it. I think it's great. >> I mean, I know Aloqua, they look for donations all the time, which I've been

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beautiful. >> I'm for it. >> Tanya's house. Does anybody >> I sent her to years ago I sent her three dogs. I sent some kids walking down the street with these three dogs and they

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they found them somewhere and so I said >> take it to Sally. >> Take it to Sally's house and come down and they deliver the dogs to her house. It was funny. >> I think that's what my mom wants to do. My mom owns 15 acres in fountain

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>> and I think she wants to do >> don't get caught feeding feral cats >> you go to penitentiary >> if she get it goes up I wish somebody said something my mother >> I wish they would too >> my mother is a total different breed but I tell you but she wants to start

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something to where people do animals that she would take them she wants to take them to her house >> right >> she's got a huge piece of property Nice. >> Anybody got anything?