[Music] All right. Good afternoon everybody. Welcome to the city of Parker second uh um workshop. Um are you recording ma'am? Yes. Okay, great. Um we will call a roll
to get started. Absolutely. U Miss Barrow here. Miss Bford here. Mr. Chapel here. Mr. Haynes absent. Mayor Kelly yes here. Thank you. You have to work with me today. I have my eyes dilated. I can't see everything. Um the regular agenda tonight is one item and one item only and that is part two of the
discussion for the uh what do we call it? The infrastructure fees. This is for the new water and sewer impact fees. I'm sorry. Um so I guess uh where do you want to begin, Mr. Solan? Anywhere pick up where we left off last week.
These gentle these some of these folks weren't here. Basically what the city's proposing is is that we're going to increase our water impact fee impact fee from 500 to a,000 and we're going to increase our sewer impact fee from 1,400 to 2,000. That's for new construction. Is that right? For only new construction
that doesn't have already development. Okay. And the reason for that Tony is that we are behind on on catching up to per per the engineered study that we had hired the firm to pre present to us. We are extremely behind on the average cost
of impact fees in the county and we are still making a recommendation below their recommendation but equal with our surrounding cities. Okay. Very good. But but that's the extraordinary circumstance why you're doing it now. Well, the main extraordinary circumstance of why we're doing it now
is is that we're fit to have a SRF project kick off June 1st. We don't know what the city's going to encounter in that project. We don't know what our capacity or demand issues might be as that project goes on. So, we're going to learn a lot through the year as that
project kicks off, where our shortfalls are. And we're going to have to leverage the impact fee money that we have currently against other grants to try to fix those issues and be ready for the the growth that Parker's coming for is is coming to Parker. It's coming
already. We've already made some in changes, but we have other contractors that have spoke with us and have told us that what their plans are. And we have projects in review right now that are going to increase the demand on our sewer system and other places, which
will likely involve us having to increase the pump sizes in those lift stations, which is approved expenditure of impact fees. If we have to increase the pumps and increase the pipes, then that's what infrastructure money is spent on. And ultimately, we've just
been letting the infrastructure money sit and roll over every year till we could have enough to try to leverage against grants to make it worthwhile spending it. Just out of curiosity, for the record, um people have said that we're not very clear with the uh uh
infrastructure money. Where is that money stored? Where's that money kept? It's in a separate banking account, separate untouched trust account. Doesn't doesn't go into the budget to be spent, does it? No, it's in a separate account in the budget. And everybody that gets a copy of the budget sees the revenue come in from the impact fees.
Right. But the budget, as far as I've been here and as far as the city council been here, has never budgeted expending the impact fees in the budget. Right. Also, it came to my attention that some people feel like we're doing um u illegal things with that money, spending
it on things that it's not allocated for. That's not the case, is it? We haven't spent any. And if I buy an old house and I have it bulldozed and the water and sewer is already there and I build the new house, do I still pay an impact fee? You do not collect any impact fee unless you actually change
the water. That's right. The demand demand. Yeah. You'll get an impact fee. But if it's existing or it's already developed, you will not get an impact fee. That's right. And if we did change the impact, those revenues would go in the same account as held in in reserve right now for um the impact fees that
come in from new construction. Correct. Correct. All right. I open the floor to anybody that has any questions for the public works director. Now, you know, we had a real good meeting last week. We need to go up there or just Yes, you got to come to the podium. So, state your name and
address for the record and you've got three minutes. I got three minutes. Okay. Uh Kurt Hart, I'm the president of the BBIA builders association here in town. Um really just a couple questions. Uh we did mention that there's a separate account for the impact fee. Now, is that two separate accounts? One
for water, one for sewer, or are they combined? Sewer and water in one account? I can't answer that question without the account. I just just BBI I'll find out for you and I'll get somebody to call you. Okay, sounds good. Um, secondly, are there any type of
exemptions for this impact? None. Would there be the possibility for the council to approve exemptions for this impact? And and I'm only asking a couple circumstances. Affordable housing being one or uh Mr. Kelly, we've worked
together on some Habitat for Humanity. Would there ever be something where Habitat could apply for a permit and these fees could be waved? Let me ask you this. Yes, we have worked on Habitat and um my opinion would be that if Habitat
built a house, they could bring a letter to the city council and we would vote on that at that time. Okay. Um because let's face it, they do it all for free. Okay. But we've not had anybody from Habitat approach us and that I've been mayor ever. Okay. So, okay. Well,
certainly an option. And I'll just I'll just add to that. It also states that the count the city council has at any time the ability to wave impact fees for any developer or leverage the impact fees for replacement of pipes. Correct. Okay. So that's yeah that's already
posted on the internet. Okay. Very good. Very good. Really that's all the questions I had. I just do appreciate I wasn't here for the last meeting but I do appreciate your input and taking a hard look at this and we understand there's costs involved. We had a great meeting with Mr. Anderson and he had
been misled. People had come to this meeting a couple meetings ago and gave him erroneous information and we wanted to be as clear as we possibly could. Transparency is important to us and so we wanted to be clear with everybody for the reason that's the reason we had these meetings and he he talked to me
after the last meeting and told me that he had been fed erroneous information. Okay. So that's good to go. All right. Very good. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Anybody councel? Tony, I I would just say the the items
that are in the statute of 163.31 801 which talks about the different elements uh of of the impact fees and how they're collected and how they're used. Uh and and the report that you got from uh Rural Water, all of that complies with
that statute. Correct. For those of you that weren't here, the guy from Rural Water came from Tallahassee to speak at our last meeting, but nobody asked him any questions and nothing really has nothing has changed since then. So, if nobody
has anything else? Yes, sir. We've been working. We've been working closely with uh Panama City on their new transportation impact fee. And one of the things in their ordinance is that there is a seven-year if the money's not spent or
earmarked in seven years that it has to be returned to the people who paid that fee. We wouldn't do that. But not I didn't know if that was a Florida statute because it sound like that was a statute. Reason is this is because if you do what we plan to do that revenue as it comes in, you can levy it against
other grants. And and that's kind 250,000, you know. So you you'll have an encumbered. Absolutely. And that's the same for all of the money we get in public works or anybody's really. Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Sin. Let me just add, you know, the impact fee that we receive is
very minimal compared to other cities. We don't have the land available that the other cities have. So, you have to look at what you know, I mean, you probably Google it and look and figure out how many lots are available for sale in Parker right now that don't have a house on them or do have a house on them or did have a house on them. if they did
have a house on them, then they're irrelevant. They've already paid. But if you look at the vacant land, and then most of the vacant land that's in Parker is not for sale, and it might not ever be for sale till these people die, right? Um, so we're not looking at bringing in a plentiful amount of money
this year or next year due to the fact that we just don't have, you know, you might have half a dozen houses a year and you take half a dozen, six times three, it's $18,000 a year that we might bring in, may may bring in, you know,
unless we have some largecale huge development that's going to come in, but then that development's only based on their meter size. You know, so if they feed the apartment complex off of 2 inch meter, the impact fee is only be multiplied off of that.
Yeah. You know, so I mean, like I said, I don't see us generating a whole lot of money for this, but what little bit of land we have left, we need to try to be able to maximize what little bit we can get. And by the statute changing this fee right now, we can't change this fee again for four years. Yeah. It's got a
four-year lock. Yeah. Okay. This will conclude our second and final workshop in our first the first the second reading is next Tuesday. Correct. No, you've already had a second reading.
The if you're going to adopt it, it would be next Tuesday. Next Tuesday. Okay. So, it'll first reading. I thought you had a second reading also. Okay. I'm sorry, Mayor. I thought Yeah, I'm losing my mind. Not you, Mr. SL. I may be losing mine, too. All right. So you can
have a second reading and adoption at the same meeting. Correct. That can then that could be next Tuesday, right? Yes, sir. Yep. All right. Nothing else, ladies and gentlemen. All right. Very good. Thank you.