I'm not supposed to add the alcohol. >> You good? >> Are you recording? Yes, sir. >> All right. >> Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to City of Park Council meeting. Um,
if everybody please stand. Mr. Reagan, would you please come to the podium and >> absolutely >> do our invocation. >> Let us pray. Heavenly Father, as we convene for this meeting, we ask for your blessing on our discussions and this time serve as a
lesson in action, reminding us of the importance of collaboration and support. Help us to focus on our Christian life, reflecting on the values you've instilled in us. As a special request, we ask that you continue to oversee the recovery of our law enforcement officer,
Sasha. In Jesus' name, amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
>> Everybody please be seated. >> All right. See what we got before we go to the regular agenda. Is there anybody? Will you call the role, please? >> Certainly. Miss Barrow >> here. Miss Bterford here. Mr. Chapel here. >> Mr. Haney here. >> Mayor Kelly
>> is here. Thank you, councel. Um, is there anybody in the audience at this time that would like to come to the podium and talk about anything that's not on this agenda for today? >> Anamarie Morris, 129 North Lakewood Drive. First, I want to thank Mr. chapel
and all the hard work that Tony and his crew did. The event on Monday was spectacular. >> Well, thank you. >> That it looks wonderful. Now, something more serious. Trunk or treat BFW, Post 8205, Friday, October
31st, 4 to 6:30. If you want to come and dress your car out, just call the post. We'll put you a spot. If you want to come and donate candy, you can bring it to city hall. You can bring it to the post. Friday, October 31st. >> Does anybody else have anything from the
audience when we move along? >> Go ahead, sir. >> Charles Walsh, 65 Oakshore Drive, but my friends call me Chuck. you know, uh, well, we live adjacent to Earl Gilbert Park and it's, you know, they're doing such a good job, our guys
down there cleaning up after those messy people because we walk down there about every day and it's just amazing how messy people are. You know, garbage cans right there and they just throw it on the ground. But our guys are doing a real good job cleaning up. We want to commend them about that. And uh, and we
went scoffing this weekend and can you believe they charge $20 to launch a boat in Port St. Joe now? in Mexico Beach, too. >> Did they make you show your driver's license to get in the water? >> Um, no, but we just had to go out and
put money. They had a kiosk machine. >> Oh, okay. >> Because I was told you couldn't launch if you didn't have a G Coast driver's license. >> Well, yeah. It's just non-residents, I'm sure. But, >> Right., >> you know, but they don't have any facilities there. I mean, I don't see any bathrooms, no picnic tables, nothing like what we have. I mean, we got
>> So, how much do you think we should start charging? Well, I mean, it would be nice to have them reimburse. Our guys have had to go clean up after them all the time. I mean, I know that's costing us money, right? >> Right. Oh, yeah. We got to pay them. >> And maybe we can even afford to turn the water on on the pier, but you know, that might be another can of worms. I don't
know. You know, had somebody else paying the water bill, but I figured those guys when we were over there. And I mean, it gets busy down here too during snapper season and all overflow boat trailer parking. >> Yeah. >> I mean, you know, I mean, >> it's nice down there. It's really nice down there.
>> Well, it is. And I mean it's real popular and it's getting more popular and and you know a lot of people come there you know they're not residents and I mean it's even hard for a resident to find a place to park. Fortunately I can park in my front yard but >> that's right >> any I just you know I don't know if the planning commission or something could
look at that or something but I think we're the only ones giving it away for free. >> I know >> especially when we have facilities and all you know I mean something for non-residents to contribute to the keep the park beautiful. >> I agree. All right. Well >> thank you sir. Appreciate you. Anybody
else that would be interested in file? Okay, sounds good. Um, first item is the minutes from August the 19th. >> I'll make a motion to approve as presented. >> Thank you, Miss Barrow. We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Second.
>> Have a first and a second. You call a role, please. >> Miss Barrell, >> yes. >> Miss Bford, >> yes. >> Mr. Chapel, >> yes. >> Mr. Haney, yes. >> And Mayor Kelly? >> Yes. Item two is the planning commission vacancies. Um the reason I moved it last time two weeks was to give people who do
not know or are not familiar with uh how the system works and um gave them 14 days to put in uh application should somebody wish to be a member of the planning council and not continue the uh
repetitious uh um task that those folks have to have. Anyway, um unfortunately nobody else applied. So if Kyle and T M Mr. Merritt and uh Mr. Striker, are they in the room if they'd like to stay on
the planning council? We'd sure love to have them stay there, but that's uh that's kind of I guess uh Madame Clerk, would you ask him tomorrow if you think >> I do have confirmation from Mr. Striker for >> You do free. Yes. Okay. >> So I guess we need to get a hold of Meritt to see if he still wants to be on
there. What do we do? Do we want to go ahead and put on? >> I think we should go ahead and put them on >> both of them. Do it. >> Yeah, let's put them both on >> together or separate. >> Well, if you're going to put them both on, you could do them both together, but
>> the clock would end at the same time. >> But their timing would end at the same time. >> Yeah. Right. >> So, if you want to do them separately, that'd be better. >> Well, I make a motion that we go ahead and do u Mr. Merritt, put him back on there. What about striker?
>> Is she doing them one at a time? >> Oh, one at a time. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. I can't second you. >> Anybody? >> Got a second. >> Mr. >> Yes. Miss Bford. >> Yes. >> Mr. Chapel? >> Yes. >> Mr. Haney? >> Yes. >> And Mayor Kelly? >> Yes. Absolutely. >> And I make a motion to put Mr. Striker
back on there. >> I need a second. >> Second. >> Call the roll. >> Miss Bar? >> Yes. >> Miss Bford? Yes. >> Mr. Chapel? >> Yes. >> Mr. Haney? >> Yes. >> And Mayor Kelly. Thank you. Um, item three is the second reading, Mr. Sloan, and possible approvement approval of
that order. >> As you know, council, you had a first reading at the last meeting. This is just updating a few items that uh Tony requested to be updated. I did note that there's an extra word in
section 8. that word today needs to come out. But other than that, this would be uh the the second reading and possible up adoption of ordinance 2025-427. >> And we need to have a >> a motion
>> a motion and a second to read. >> I make a motion. >> We have a motion. We have a second. >> Yes. >> We have a first and second. Call a roll. >> Miss Pharaoh. >> Yes. >> Miss Bifford? Yes. >> Mr. Chapel? >> Yes. >> Mr. Haney? Yes. >> And Mayor Kelly? Yes. >> Ordinance number 2025-427, an ordinance of the city of Parker,
Florida, amending the code of ordinances of the city of Parker. Ordinance number 2010-349 is amended, amending certain provision of chapter 82 of the code of ordinances relating to utility services, providing for severability, providing a
mechanism for the correction of scriveners errors, providing for the liberal construction of this ordinance, providing for codification and repealer clauses, and providing for an effective date. I'll make a motion to adopt. >> Second, >> Madam
ask for public comment. >> You have a motion to >> We have a motion. We got a second. >> Can I call a roll, please? >> Miss Barrow? >> Yes. >> Miss Bifford? Yes. >> Mr. Chapel? Yes. >> Mr. Haney? Yes. >> Mayor Kelly? >> Yes. Go ahead, ma'am.
>> No, I didn't have comment. I just wondered if the opportunity was going to be given. We been told there's a process. >> We did. Who told you that? >> At a couple of meetings. >> What? >> That there has to be a motion to read and then there's a discussion before the
council files or makes a motion to vote and then vote. But >> okay, >> doesn't matter. Thank you. >> Um item five is the planning commission recommendation and it's an application to split a lot. No,
>> you missed four. Okay. I'm sorry. Our second page went over. Yeah. Introduction and first reading for ordinance 428. Mr. Sloan. >> Yes, sir. Uh, at the last council meeting, there was discussion about the time uh that the park should be open.
Uh, and the council seemed to reach consensus from 6:00 a.m. to 1000 p.m. except for uh the pier obviously and that has some additional requirements. Uh this ordinance had been uh or this section
had already been amended at one point in time a few years ago. Uh but the times were still off. So it's coming to you and essentially u setting the time at what you all had
agreed on on last time and then the rest of it essentially is is the prior ordinance that y'all had already adopted. So my understanding is this is all public boat landings from 6 to 10 and parks from 6 to 10 with the
exception of the pier and the pier uh saltwater boat launch. Is that correct? >> What about >> that's correct that the pier is excluded from >> excluded from the time. Yeah, >> that's correct. >> And so is the ramp, right? >> Well, I've not included the ramp, but if
you want the ramp included, I could specify it. >> Any conversation, council? I feel like the ramp should be included to 24 hours. >> I think uh this Parker the boat launch over here on Mark Lake should be open 24 hours as well as Donaldson Point over 24
hours. >> Okay. >> If that's considered a park anymore. >> It is. It is considered a park. The one in Donaldson Point is Yeah. So we do it for one, we got to do it for all basically. >> That's what I was thinking. I've talked to some of the fishermen out there and uh told them that
you know it's open 24 hours and they said yeah we appreciate that because a lot of times they come at 4 in the morning or so >> right been out of gigging. Well the one in Donaldson Point for everybody's edification is also used by the Florida Fish and Wildlife. They like that
because they can slip in and out at night time you know. So, uh, so those will stay open 24 hours. The three of them, >> two, three. Yeah, the pier and the boat ramp. >> You want to call them boat ramps or boat launches? >> Boat boat launch, I guess. What?
Whatever the correct >> I would add that in the first sentence except for the fishing pier and any city boat launches and abs in a rule and then go on. >> Sounds good. >> We need a vote on that. >> And then, mayor, you would need a >> first and a second to read. I'll make a
motion with a correction. >> Okay. We have first. We have a second. >> Second. >> We have a second. >> Miss Barrow. >> Yes. Miss Bford. >> Yes. >> Mr. Chapel. >> Yes. >> Mr. Haney. >> Yes. >> And Mayor Kelly? >> Yes. >> Ordinance number 2025-428,
an ordinance of the city of Parker, Florida, amending the code of ordinances of the city of Parker. Ordinance number 2010-349 is amended. Amending certain provisions of chapter 54 of the code of ordinances related to hours of of park use, providing for a mechanism for the
correction of scrier's errors, providing for the liberal construction of this ordinance, providing for the tification of repealer clauses, and providing for an effective date. >> Thank you, sir. >> Yes, sir. >> Does this have to be read again
>> at the next meeting? >> Yeah, that's what I thought. All right. Um item five is the planning commission recommendation. Sorry I jumped you earlier. The application for a lot split um on North 9inth Street.
Uh do we have any input for that from anybody property owners? Nobody. Probably didn't know to be here. Okay. Move it to the next next meeting. >> All right. Before we read number six, can we read number seven, then go to
number six, because they they got them in there backwards. It's my fault. Um, we have a piece of excess property on Second Street, specifically 4919 East Second Street. It has a 30-year history of code enforcement and failure to pay
uh water bills and sewer bills. Uh about a year ago approximately um the magistrate decided that there was no further um uh code enforcement that we could do that that needed to be disposed of bulldozed. So we gave them that
opportunity and they never did it and they never did it and they never did it and so finally we took the house down and removed it. Now there wasn't a lot of the house left. Most of it was destroyed in the hurricane and uh it just sat there vacant with basically no roof. Anyway, um the individuals were
given an opportunity to pay the back fines and uh continue to own the property, but they did not and would not and could not for whatever reason pay those fines. So, it became property of the city of Parker. And um I need to let
you know that I feel like we should sell that piece of property and use that revenue for several things. One is projects as we move forward with the city, but more importantly, somebody could build a home there and we can start generating tax and uh water and
sewer revenue from that piece of property. Uh in order to do that, it has to be declared excess. And for us to do that, I need us to vote on it. And I need your support to to get that going. >> So you would need a a motion to declare it surplus. Y
>> and to authorize the city to sell the property. >> Correct. >> Can we do that in one motion? >> I have a question. >> Yes, ma'am. >> 1344 Stratford. I guess just a question. I understand the history uh Mayor Kelly, but in Oh, and it just went away. When I
look at the um property appraisers website, it shows that it is still owned by 4919 east second. >> Well, that's my point. >> I have the deed. I have the deed right here. Ma'am, >> property pricer website is never updated
accurately. >> Okay. Thank you for that clarification. So, when did the when did the transfer occur? >> Couple three months ago. >> Okay. So that wasn't disclosed at any quasi judicial meeting or anything.
>> Didn't go to the quasi judicial went to courthouse. >> Okay. Okay. >> Anybody else? So I need I need to um we have to declare it excess and we have to vote to declare it excess that I can sell it and then I'll explain why. Well, I was
asking, can we uh put those it two in one motion >> uh to a uh Yes, ma'am. I believe you can. You can declare surplus and then authorize the city to sell it >> in accordance with any contract that can be executed by the mayor.
>> I make that motion. >> Second. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Call the role. >> Miss Barrow. >> Yes. >> Missford? >> Yes. >> Mr. Chapel? >> Yes. >> Mr. Haney? >> Yes. >> And Mayor Kelly? >> Yes. Thank you. Okay. Now, back to the reversal. um
for some time and I don't know if you've noticed but in the city of Springfield now when you come in there these nice signs says welcome to Springfield and I've always thought how nice it would be to have a nice signs welcome to Parker
and over the years it's been talked about so I was writing with Mr. Summerland last week and we were having a conversation about the V piece of I don't have the numeric for it but as you come into Parker where the old bar stood
that burnt down about seven years ago, five years ago, there's a V in the road right there. And if you look at that right now, you'll see that the um contract for SRF is digging a trench around that point. And that lot is actually a lot smaller than you think.
It's too small to build a house. It's too small to to do most almost anything on it. You couldn't under our current land development regulation uh even put um a shed on the property cuz it's not big enough. And when you
take out the setback and this brand new water line, it leaves that piece of real estate. You can look it up right there. That V would be left behind. So, what I'd like to do is buy that
piece of property if I can get it at a fair market value, very fair market value. And Mr. Sumlin and I have talked about what we can do, and that is uh take all of the nails and the gravel and the glass and the steel and the concrete
that was left from that burned out building out of there. uh put new dirt on there, level it out nice so that grass will grow. And then he would pour us a slab uh out there. We haven't got any dimensions or anything of how this
would occur other than I've reached out to the brick layer that laid the bricks for the memorial. And the shape is not set in stone. It's not not even a thing yet. But I would ask that same brick layer to make us
something similar as to the welcome to Panama City signs as you go into downtown Panama City. It's those nice brick squares and we could fill it full of dirt and uh we could get a group of you together to put flowers in there and
then make some type of a of a brick arch with a recess and we could put welcome to Parker St. Florida established. 196 >> 1960 6067. That is something I think would look great coming into the city of Parker.
I'd like to have one out there on Tindle Parkway and I'd like to put one right here coming from the Air Force base. So, um we're about to put a new uh designation sign at the corner right here of this street. So basically what
I'm asking is if I can get that piece of property at a reasonable price has had some ridiculous numbers thrown at it over the years. And I was told yesterday the way it's listed is um it's it's not worked the way they've got it listed
because you can't build anything on it. It's too small to build a building. But I think it would make a great a great uh place for a sign if we could get it. So, what I'd like to do is from the sale of this lot, I got to pay Mr. Sullman back
about 16 12,000 for clearing up the house and use the remaining money that's left after the lawyer and the real estate and all those kind of people to purchase this piece of land and clean it up and uh put some dirt and grass out
there and a welcome to Parker sign out there. So when you come to our city, you'll see that you're in the city of Parker and we could do it however you wanted to do it as we move forward, but I I need to obtain it first. So
>> if the property is valued at more than 100,000, you'd have to have two appraisals. >> Oh, it's not it's not valued nothing close to that, sir. >> No, not even a fifth of that. >> And I would suggest they had it at 55. >> That's what they have it for sale for. Yeah. I never never made
>> to be a part of the motion. >> So, I'm sorry, council. Go ahead. >> So, the people living west of that feel like they were not living in Parker anymore. The people that were >> they would all have to move. They would all be they all they'd all live in
Springfield >> because as it stands right now, Springfield put their sign and gave us the milk. [Laughter] There's no place to put it. >> It already is. >> Yeah. >> Springfield put up a sign
>> and they gave us the meal. >> That's a good deal, right? >> No, it doesn't mean that. >> Well, I make a motion that um we authorize the mayor to purchase the
property. What did you say to add to it? and and that property has a value of less than $100,000. >> I would never never buy it for that kind of money. >> Never. No. >> So, any anybody else? Yes, ma'am. We have the floor. >> Well, I know there's a motion on the
table. >> All right. Second. >> So, should I just wait until the votes made? >> Yeah, I guess probably. So, >> okay, I'll do that. Thank you. I'll wait. >> Call a second. Second.
Miss, >> yes. Miss Barford, >> yes. >> Mr. Chapel, >> yes. >> Mr. Haney, >> yes. >> America, >> yes. Yes, ma'am. You have the floor. >> Okay. Thank you for that. Pat Fosick, 1344 Stratford. Um, I don't have any problem with the city buying the property again, but I I just wonder the
city council, the five of you, just gave one person the authority to buy something for up to $100,000. Isn't there any discussion? Don't you feel that you have an obligation to maybe put a limit on it? You know, 22,000, 30,000,
whatever. I mean, Mayor Kelly made a comment about we're going to sell this other lot. The city's going to sell the lot. He owes public works about 16,000 in order to offset the expenses that the city incurred for demoing that property. Well, that doesn't maybe leave a whole
lot, but what what does that leave? We don't even know. and a blank check was just written. So, I'm >> not necessarily >> really >> with that piece of property. Everybody's very well aware of that piece of property. Nobody in their right mind would pay $100,000 for that property.
>> Okay. But what are we going to pay? Are we going to pay 60? Does anybody think that's a fair value? It can't be built on. That's my point. I know he's not going to go 100,000. I trust Mayor Kelly to to do what's right. But my concern is there wasn't even discussion among the
five of you as to what do we think is reasonable. What do we want to authorize him to do to go in and make an offer because there have >> the other property first before you start worrying about the >> you know I think you should go to the
>> run here. Thank you, council. >> Regardless of what they um what was just said, I I >> I trust that you'll do the right thing for the city of >> Thank you, ma'am. I appreciate you.
>> Okay. And then the uh last thing over the last few months, uh I've been asked by several people about removing the camera up on the wall there that goes onto social media. Um
there's pros and cons for everything that we do in our lives. Uh sometimes things are used for sometimes innocent things are used to hurt folks. That's where I have a problem. But I'd like us to have a
conversation about this camera. Um I've got people that want it, people that don't want it. People came to me Saturday and told me that um they have neighbors who are wheelchair bound and they like to watch
our meetings u from their home which I understand that it's a good thing. Um but then we have uh people that use the videotapes for nefarious reasons and they they say things are inaccurate based upon
what they think they see. So, I want to throw it out to you council and tell me what you think. Uh, and we can have any kind of comments from the floor also. I welcome that before we make any kind of decision. But does anybody on the in the council room have anything they'd like
to to talk about this up for public discussion? Any Morris, 129 North Lakewood Drive. I honestly believe that transparency is very important in Parker. Not just in Parker, but that's the only
place we're talking about. Now, I understand Tanya's got a concern about the cameras. I understand people have concerns about the cameras, but there are so many people that are not able to come during this time frame, but they can pay attention and they can watch the
planning council meetings, the infrastructure meetings, the workshops, all that is there. You take it away and now you've really shut down the information that you're willing to share with the citizens of Parker. So that leads me to wonder,
what are you going to hide? Are you trying to hide something? Because we want to help, >> but we don't we want we don't want to feel shut out. >> And that's what I think taking it down would do. >> Thank you. >> Very good. >> Just for the record, I had nothing to do
with it. I didn't even know it was on the agenda till after it was put on the agenda. So, I don't want nobody keep throwing my name out there and all on social media about it. I haven't had anything to do with it. So, this this is on the agenda for I after today, I'm not going to talk about it no more. So, I want you to tell me
what you think. I mean, this is truly truly the last time I'm going to allow it to be on the agenda. Gloria, 1313 Stratford Avenue. I think there's many, many times when I can't get to this meeting because I have other
obligations or it starts early enough that I can't get here, but I can sit at home and watch the meeting. >> That's true. >> And know what was going on and be up to date on what was going on. I can go back and watch three or four of them and know
reverse back and say, "Okay, well, this is what was talked about here and now we're talking about it again here." I think it's important that if I'm traveling, I can log in on YouTube and I can be anywhere in the country or out of the
country and see this meeting. And I think that's important and I think it the citizens of the city of Parker need to have that ability to be able to see what the council is doing. >> That is true. >> Not to dispute anything the council is
doing, but to be we're knowledgeable citizens of what is actually happening in the in the city of Parkour. And it doesn't have to do anything with Miss Tanya over here. I mean, she's a council member. Katie's a council member. Everybody is the council is the council
members together make the decisions for this city and to be able to watch what's going on is important and I think they should remain. >> Thank you, Gloria. I I just want to say one thing before you uh before you leave.
Four and a half years ago when I became mayor, I uh we didn't have the camera >> and we used to have some of the best meetings. we to fill this room up with people and when it was over we'd have some great conversations outside and I
sometimes think that you lose something and when when you don't speak to one another when you don't stop like when I see you we always have a conversation about something and you you're what you tell me as I I take everything into consideration for everybody in this room
when like yesterday was a great day a great day and we had a great conversation yesterday so I'm I'm on the fence. I mean, I don't want it being used for nefarious reasons. Miss Bar had nothing to do with this going on here. This is my decision. I approve the the
um the the the the documents. I just I want it to be I want it to I want us to hear what you think. And I I will then if I need to pass out and tell you the things that have happened because we're going to have a document here pretty
soon, a very thick document. I won't be able to copy it for everybody, but you're going to be amazed at what people have done with that information. It will shock you. >> And when you read through these pages, it's like
>> the Esquire magazine in the news rack. It don't mean nothing. Inquire. >> It's homemade. What's it called? >> Inquire. >> Inquire. It's just garbage that people make up lies about. Right. >> But it's okay. It's my turn now. But I wanted to put this on here and get it. What? Because all being recorded.
>> Yep. >> And and I appreciate what you say, Gloria. I really, really, really do. >> There's always good and bad to everything that >> there is. There is. There's no reason for anything. We should be able to talk about everything and work it out. >> You know, there's there's a rule of
things the rule of consequences. >> Yep. You're right. >> So, you know, you you televise it or you put it on YouTube and then people don't come. But then again, there's people that never came that now can go on YouTube. >> That's true, too. And I agree with you >> with what's going on.
>> I agree with you. So, >> but for everybody's edification, Miss Barrow had nothing to do with this. This was my decision based on people talking to me all the time about a multitude of different things. >> Yeah. >> And I just I I like the days when we could have a conversation. Those days
apparently have gone. So, I mean, not for you and I, but for a lot of people, they won't they don't come like they used to. >> We all got busy lives, too. >> Busy. Yeah. >> And the timing is, you know, >> Thank you, ma'am. >> Okay. >> You're up, Mr. Bford or whoever. Okay,
Miss King. >> Kim King, 4716 East Street. I think the cameras are a positive because in the two years that I have been coming here and seeing the minutia posted online about the city council meetings and the things that go on here that aren't true that aren't
true. >> That's a fail safe things that go on this room. That's true >> because there are people in this room right now who have made up lies online and said a lot of nefarious things about our city. And I think that the cameras protect everybody in the room and the
city of Parker. So I think they should stay. Thank you, ma'am. >> That's my opinion. Thank you, >> Mr. Bford. >> Chuck Bford, 5405 Fleming Street. It's 2025. I don't see how you cannot have cameras, but um
I think you just have to get everybody's opinion and then vote vote how you feel like you need to vote. >> Oh, there's no we're not going to take a vote. It's just a common conversation. That's what we're doing. >> I don't see how there not have one in. >> I mean, everybody's assuming that's the camera I'm talking about. I'm
>> And it keeps the violence down in here. >> It does. It does. >> And the shoplifting. >> The shoplifting >> and the monkeys. >> And the monkeys. >> It keeps all that down. >> Okay.
>> David Beers, 1313 Stratford Avenue. Uh back in what was it? 7877 when the Sunshine Law started. Uh prior to that, Florida had a very bad reputation about uh backroom deals going on, >> right? >> And that's what brought about that.
>> Uh since then, uh a lot of other states have brought it into their laws and because it came from Florida, that's why they called it the Sunshine Law. Um, I'm concerned about what the state of
Florida's been doing lately with deleting some of that loss with some of the things that they're doing in the capital, but that's neither here or here here or there for this right now. Um it I think in the long run it like uh
in the long run it does protect us because you've got an exact >> record >> record >> of everything that's said in here regardless of how somebody can twist it and turn it. I mean we've all seen the internet with all the lies and and
>> madeup stuff that's put out there. Yeah. >> To try to influence people. Unfortunately, you can't motivate people to to dig into books and find out what reality is, but uh at least the people that are interested can watch this and
see what's going on and feel like they're participating in something. I agree. It's not It's great when we had the meetings and everybody was in here and there's been some really good discussions at times. Uh >> yeah, >> yes. uh people can get passionate but uh
I think in the long run the camera is a good thing. >> Okay. Thank you. >> How you doing sir? >> Good. Michael Andelas 53000 Alexander Lane. I've lived in Parker now since January of 2020. The camera was not in
place then. Um I had no idea what was going on in the city at the time. Um, not until these meetings were being recorded was I able to see them. I'm a shift worker. This is the one rare occasion where I'm not working tonight. So, >> do you watch it at home? >> I watch it at home all the time. And >> what's your opinion?
>> I am for it. It was very helpful. Um, I even watch it at work when I'm working when I can. >> Um, so it adds to the value that the city already offers the residents and I would say please keep recording these and providing them to the >> Excellent.
>> Thank you, sir. Thanks, Michael. Anybody else? >> Mark Ria, 1503 Dober Road. There's a metaphor that everybody here is familiar with. It's It goes something like this. If a tree falls in the forest and no one's there to see it, did it make a
sound? And one of the things that I know there is the concern here is about the negativity, some of the some of the things that are said when people watch these meetings. But if you analyze the number of people
that are actually viewing that website you're all talking about where there's nefarious things said, it's tiny. It's 0.04% of the population in Parker. So that tree didn't make any noise. So my concern is that that's the concern,
the negativity because the cameras are here. We have so little people reading that website that we despise and we know are loaded with cesspools of things that are said that aren't what, you know, this
this council or this mayor or this attorney means to say. And for that reason, I I'd hope you'd consider to keep the cameras because people know baloney when they read it. And when they can see, I mean, video is
perfect. When when they can see how you conduct yourself, the respectful nature each and every one of you conduct yourself in and they read some of the garbage, they know who's right. It's better to see the video, support what's really going on. >> Thanks.
>> Thank you, Mr. Re. Appreciate you. Okay. Council, you have anything you don't like to talk about on that? Mr. Chapel, change the subject over. Do you have anything you'd like to talk about? >> Um, the only thing I got now is I appreciate
all the people that did come to the party. >> It's really good. >> I thought we had a very good turnout. There's still a lot of food left over, but um maybe with the cameras uh running and stuff like that that people will get to
know that we are doing things here in Parker and they will participate in uh coming to them. So our I guess our next project is uh going to be with
I guess the VFW. >> Yeah. And uh so uh >> I think we're going to do a trick or treat here this year also. >> So and then u I had a man yesterday said
that uh he would help supply the fish if we wanted to have a a fish get together fish drive. I don't know how many people would be interested in that but uh he made an offer of supplies for fish and stuff. If
if we could do again what chapel did Sun Monday, it would be amazing. I I was one of the last people to get a plate and I counted 77 people lined up to eat. 77, right? And and I thought it was going to
be hot under that awning. And we're still here. We didn't die. I mean, we wore out our defibrillator, but by God, we're still here. And it was cool under that canopy. And the the food you get, it was amazing. Whoever made that
Spanish rice, they they should be selling that. But they cooked the pig. I got down there early with Ron and we got the grill fired up and Mr. Dam Reagan came down there and gave his heart and soul to that pig. And um I'm still
waiting to see a picture with the apple in his mouth. I didn't got to see that, but it was really, really, really good. Anyway, brother Haney, you got a floor, sir. >> Make sure I see you got bad leg gout.
>> Ain't that bad? Mr. Barry, you got the floor? >> Yeah, I got a couple things. Um, Mr. Sloan, do you do you have those papers that I asked for from the state attorney's office? >> I have received a response from the state attorney. They requested a deposit
which we have sent them and I'm waiting to get the paperwork. >> Okay. So there are papers. It's just I have not received them. >> Okay. I would like when you get them I would like to have them too. >> Well, I will deliver them to the clerk and then she can distribute them to the
>> other thing is um Mr. Gary Brandon, he is wanting to go ahead for the council to go ahead and make changes to the LDR and get the wording in there for the multi multif family dwelling to change that.
Wasn't that what we were going to do? >> Yeah, I'd like for there be a motion on you were going to have a workshop transferable. >> I guess they decided not to have >> They decided not to apparently. >> So So what what is it we're trying to do here? They're trying to get change the
land development regulation to get it to where you can have a multif family dwelling. >> If you go to sell it, then it stays that way. >> It stays that way. >> Okay. >> Because that's not the wording in the uh LDR. That's why Mr. flown. I I don't
know if we vote on to go ahead and do it and let him get the paperwork, but I don't know whether we need to let him get the paperwork, bring it back here, and let us >> Yeah, you'll need to see the actual language >> to vote on it and it'll be done for the maybe the next meeting or do we have to have several meetings for that?
>> The last time I heard about it, it it was going to come in a workshop and so I didn't realize you all had decided >> not to have the workshop. So if the consensus of the council is to uh take a look at some change to the
grandfathering provision then I can bring that back. >> I think if we make the change to the land development regulation to accommodate what they're asking. We need to also use the language in there that it can't be from this day on you can't build more. They got to be in the R1.
I'm understanding right. So, um, those individuals that already own these duplexes or more, I I've drove around the city in the last few days and there's a heck of a lot more people than I realized lived in a duplex. And um,
some of them the people live in one side and they rent the other side, whatever. Right? Uh, I'm not saying that that we should be allowing people to uh, build more of those, but if it exists, it exists. You can't tell somebody, the
government shouldn't be able to tell someone they can't do something if it already exist is existing and they already bought it. But anything the council wants, I mean, I feel like we should talk about this so that we're clear on what we want to tell Mr. Sloan
and tell Mr. Brandon. >> Anybody got anything? >> I mean, I feel like if you own a duplex, you should be able to sell it as a duplex. as a duplex. >> I believe in the grandfathering. >> I do too. I don't know if you call it grandfathering, but And what about not
building any new ones in the future? >> Absolutely not. >> Yeah. >> That provision in particular that I think you all are talking about would uh apply across the board. So, it wouldn't just affect duplexes. It would
potentially affect all kinds of construction. >> But, I mean, if you buy a duplex, you intend on using it as a duplex. not buy a duplex and then say, "Oh, well, now you have to turn it into a single family home." >> But my question is, do you want to limit the grandfathering
to just duplexes or do you want it to apply >> multi any anything across the board? Okay, >> you threw me, Miss Brandon. I'm listening to three things at one time. Tell me what you're thinking there. >> Multifamilies, duplexes, triplex,
quadlex. I If you had it and you bought it as a >> and you didn't and you owned it that way, >> transferable and it's already set up >> or sellable. >> Yeah. It can't be sold as a as what it is. But what you're saying is let's put
something in there to make sure there can not be any more what it already is. R1 already says you can't build anymore. >> Yeah, it already says that. That's in stone. You can't do it anymore. There would be no anymore. This is just what's there.
>> So, what do we want? We want to vote on this, Miss Barrow, or do we want to put >> That's why I was asking the attorney what how what is the procedure? >> It's got to be done in the northern clear. So, >> okay. >> I'll bring it back and then you all can >> send me a copy of that so I can look it over.
>> Well, I haven't done it yet, but I will when I do it. And what do we do about if someone gets a variance and changes whatever they have and then they >> Oh, no. If you've already changed it, you own it the way it is. >> Do it back again back like they had it
before. >> No. >> Okay. >> And Mr. Brandon, would people do that? >> Do what? >> Swap back and forth back. What would be the benefit of that? >> No. Once you've changed it to single family, that's it. Then this falls under the guidelines of single family and you
want to put a multifamily in R1 is just no. It's in stone. You can't do it. >> Okay. All right. Sounds good. >> Whether you didn't, >> it's already been tried. >> Had a vacant lot and wanted to do it. R1, you just can't do it. >> Okay. Go ahead, ma'am. >> U Pat Felzy, 1344 Stratford. Question
that I would have is if they buy a multi, someone buys a multi-purpose and let's say that the building is very old, but they bought it as a multi-purpose as a sorry, um, what you call >> multif family. So, duplex, quadruplex, whatever. Would that new owner be able
to significantly modify that duplex and change it >> or do they have >> an in effect already on that? It says that you can't enlarge it. You can't if it's destroyed more than 51% it has to go back to R1. There's already
stipulates. >> Yeah, it does have to say the same. >> Okay. So I could buy a duplex and make it a sixlex and rate and and go up. >> That's not the same footprint. >> Buy a duplex. It's a duplex. >> No. >> Well, that that's what I'm asking that the motion clarif or that the um ordinance clarify.
>> When I bring it back, >> Mr. Sloan will fix that. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. >> There's already a code in effect for the old transferable multifamilies that you cannot enlarge them. You can't alter them. You can't make them bigger. If
it's destroyed more than 51% it can't go back is R1 and if it's vacant more than 180 days it's abandoned. Okay, that's already written. So >> we don't need to vote on this today, do we? Not until you get it squared away some language. We can't vote on it today. >> I've got it's got to be done by
ordinance, Mr. Brandon. >> Oh, okay. I'm sorry, >> Miss Barrow. I'm sorry. Gary Brandon won't stop. I can't hear. >> You know how he is. That's why I go home and watch us on video to see what y'all said and to see
what I said. >> You know, you're making a joke, but I believe that. >> I believe that. I've known you 30 years and I know you do that. >> I've got hearing damage from an accident. >> I said something to you the other day and you asked me. You said a minute
later, you asked me the same thing. >> He can't hear. >> Huh? >> Exactly. >> He needs a barrenade. >> I need a barrenade. >> Miss Bford. Miss Barry, everything >> I I am going to say something.
>> Uh kind of goes back to um when a several people that are are they're running the Parker Citizen and then they go in and they say things and this weekend or yesterday was a good example
where the city was pork in politics. >> It was >> I think that was And I'm not saying nothing else. >> It was on it. >> I don't care what it meant. That was great yesterday, Ron. And I'm proud to
have helped you. >> And y'all were passing around potato salad and talking about whoever you wanted to talk about. >> That's right. I even saw Mark Reagger catch his right arm hairs on fire. eyebrows. >> It did. I I heard him scream before I
saw him jump. >> Well, we had a few burnt hands, I think. >> Yeah, it's okay. >> That grill got >> Wait a minute. Leave you alone. >> Okay. I'm sorry. >> Got nothing. I'm good. >> No, please say something. I'm >> okay. >> No, no, please. >> No, trust me, I don't.
>> Okay. Thank you everybody. See you in two weeks. and test.