afternoon everybody uh welcome to the city of Parker council meeting for the 15th of April uh we've only got four items on the agenda for tonight before we get started and we go through the process of the roll call item two will be uh postponed for
tonight and will appear on an agenda at a later time we will have some workshops on the subject matter before we vote on it if everybody please come to attent stand please for the invocation mr chapel you're up
oh Lord on this meeting tonight make sure that all the council members uh vote in accordance with the betterment of the city and uh I appreciate u our fire department and our police
department and all the ones in harm's way i just I ask in your name amen i pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation
under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all please be seated you guys don't mind working with me tonight i had some surgery earlier and I um had some surgery earlier anyway
um would you call the role please absolutely uh Miss Barrow here miss Bifford here mr chapel here mr haney here mayor Kelly here thank you um the items uh the Let's go with items from the audience do we have any items from
the audience before we get started come to the podium please state your name and address for the recorded record good evening everyone pat Foskick 1344 Stratford Avenue um I have a question with regard to the water bills that just
came out we've got an increase on the sewer base fee and the waterbased charge was that noticed yes ma'am it was we voted on it when was it noticed to the residents when the budget was published in October okay and it was scheduled to go into
effect now not at the beginning of the budget year because it just went up between last month and this month yeah they made a mistake the machine didn't didn't bill you in time before and now it's billing you okay well I SNA didn't bill everybody like it was supposed to
okay i'll go back and listen to the meeting because I remember having a discussion about water increase and I specifically remember Councilwoman Borrow saying that um why would we raise we knew that Bay County was going to raise their rates but she was questioning my recollection
and forgive me if I misstate it but she was asking why would we raise our rates when we just passed the adalorum so when I saw this come through I was surprised yes ma'am so you're saying it was voted on in the Yes ma'am but you you can do me a big favor Pat when you go back and
check if it's apparent and you can document when it was supposed to start in April if you could call me and let me know because I've been looking for a vehicle to back charge those bills and you'd help me immensely so you're going to make me be the bad guy because the city Well you should you have the time
to check it oh I'll definitely check it because I don't remember it happening but yeah thanks Mayor yeah absolutely i still have two other questions okay uh one is with regard to the infrastructure tax committee there's been no accounting and no meetings with regard to that
particular committee uh we lost a member is it up already thank you Don it's lost uh we um lost a member I believe in October of 2023 we lost another member when Kyle Merritt moved to the planning commission and I think there's only been
one meeting you referring to the infrastructure sales tax infrastructure sales tax is there going to be an accounting for that money the money that has been collected and what we're doing with it because although we're not going to discuss item number two we're talking about raising more money for
infrastructure which I know we need and I agree on but we don't even know where our money is going right now the second is the ad valorum tax we've now had advalorum for two years we have yet to see an accounting of how much money was brought in and what that money is going
to be used for and I respectfully ask that the council make sure that that is apparent to the taxpayers as we continue to go down taking more and more and more money so thank you very much thank you ma'am does anybody else have anything they want to come to go ahead chuck
Bford 5405 Fleming Street um as y'all are going to have this workshop on the u impact impact fees yeah you may want to look into uh traffic impact studies that's another way you can raise some
some more money um these businesses that attract a lot of traffic there's all the other municipalities are are charging for traffic impact fee may want to look into it it's a great deal of money okay thank you sir
anybody else want to come to the podium how you doing sir i'm good how about yourself good jimmy Lumley 4911 Sharon Drive concerning 724 Arrow Street have you done anything with that easement i spoke with Mr summerland as I said I was
going to and he indicated to me that as far as he was concerned there was no need for the easement uh as I told the mayor uh earlier I just need to figure out now how to how to uh propose to the
city council to divest themselves of that whether or not it if it's a rightaway easement we may have to do a vacation if it's if it's not a rightaway then it can be done in a different manner so since the last time you came Mr lumley we've been working on it he
told me tonight that we've never gave up on easement before so this is kind of a an abnormal thing but that he's working on getting it done for you okay i spoke to property appraiser this afternoon they don't even have it on a record okay
something there we don't even know maybe somebody put that in there and it never got documented you know it's in there on my survey okay my surveyor found it anchor engineering found it it ran all the way from 22nd Street didn't it all the way from Bob Little over to Arrow it
runs all the way from Arrow Street all the way through the property almost full width of the property yeah all the way to 22A so we're going to get it squared for you okay this is where my issue is july 12th
2024 I approached the mayor actually he was standing here talking to me about this mayor told me that he would take care of it november 4th you told me sitting right here that the attorney had
told you that since there was no conflict there was no reason to write a letter or anything else if I Yeah that's correct okay this is almost a year i'm ready to start building that house as soon as I get my permit my permit is going to take four weeks
basically four weeks so time is money are the people at the permitting office telling you you can't get a permit because of this easement i can't get a development order because of this easement okay this is this is the issue all I got to have is a development okay
you'll have it Monday how about having it tomorrow you know what what did you say city clerk can have a development document or whatever we need to do by next next meeting so the council can Okay he says he can have it by the next meeting so the council can approve that puts me another two weeks out three
weeks out okay what is it you want me to do Mr i want you to have the city clerk who has the authority according to LDR um section 34.3 to issue this order i want you to have her issue the order and then you'll
have time to do what you have to do and I can go ahead and get my building permit and start this house mr sloan this is what I called to ask you about last week and I I called you back two three days later well the the
issue u as as the mayor recited is we've never given up an easement before so if it's right away then it's a vacation if it's not a rightaway then I can just terminate it by a document that the council approved i don't think it's a rightaway i think it's just an easement
um and you know like I say if you'll issue my my development order tomorrow everything is done um do you have a pending application mr boy has it all all approved the only thing that's holding him up from signing that is this easement
all you got to do is have the clerk issue the development order now hold on a second and you can do whatever i think he gave me that development order approved yesterday i signed a lot of documents but I'm pretty sure your DO was in there yesterday well I don't know if it is or not
because I haven't been contacted about it okay well Mr boy would have contacted me immediately because he knows the importance of this i'll check okay we can check one but I'm I asked him yesterday because uh it was on Arrow Street and I said "Is this Lumley?" He said "Yeah." And I signed that yesterday
morning when I came into office so I don't know but we'll find out for you notify me and tell me to come pick it up so I can turn it in we'll find out later and I can't begin the process of a building permit without the development order okay don't even look at it
so all we can do is wait and call him uh I tell you what when the meeting's over I'll call him at home i'll find out what his phone I don't ask you to do that i don't like people calling me at night either okay take care of it tomorrow morning and I'll be a happy camper okay okay thank you thank
you anybody else have anything for us before we get started okay great i'm sorry Mr haney you were starting a conversation and he got cut off what was it you on the ref reference well I was saying I called Mr sloan in
reference to his issue he's got to try to get something figured out resolved okay last week did Mr lumley call you and you called Sloan correct okay and Mr lumbly what you were asking Mr haney for is the same thing you're asking me for now
oh yes pretty much i mean we just discussed what I had talked about at the meeting before okay okay all right just so we're clear okay all right so Mr sloan where are we
at with this we're at We're going to get this for next meeting i'll I'll have a way for you all to vote on it is that going to be okay is there a way to expedite it quicker than that so you can get busy on this um I I'll do what I can John i've got a
week of depositions next week uh but he's been waiting for months i remember he asked me He asked me last year about it i'll try to get it by the end of the week and then it'll be up to y'all when you want to have a meeting i think I think we'll be having Can we vote in a workshop no you'd have to have a special
meeting to You could do a workshop special combination i'd like to get it for him because in he's right back in the winter he asked me about it but I think we said at the time he had one he was working on but he wanted to get it approved so when the
first house was finished he could move on to the second house i think that's I I asked for this the day I turned in my application for development order for the first house for the first house the first house is complete now okay um all I need is I'm not about to start
a house on a property that's got an easement on it right i need this before I get my permit okay so you got a month as soon as I get my permit then I want to start it yeah so you got a month to do Well I didn't even know that you had a development order application pending
so right i got that he gave me that yesterday i'm not sure i don't see that i understand so um it's been a while because I remember asking you about what kind of drainage or swell a swale you asked me that you That's right it was something to do with the way the water flowed that was a problem correct well there was It was no problem he explained
to me that everything was hunky Dorian yeah you were talking to me about glad I was building a house instead of apartments yes indeed yes sir but that's you know like I say you've got a month if I get my DO tomorrow then I'll have my permit applied for and it'll take a
month to get it okay all right thanks sir okay um the uh approval of the minutes i'm sorry go ahead ma'am come up to the podium if you would
it's Diane Coats 1521 Dover Road i think it's a good time to start our task list so we don't forget things like this again thank you ma'am right can we start a task list no ma'am thank you for Thank you for your comments why
can't we start the task list we used to have it for years not not for years ma'am i don't recall no you don't recall well you're you're No no i've served eight years before this i know but we had a task list do you have anything
you're asking the council me or you just suggest on task list just suggesting and we won't have a problem like Mr ly anymore he turned all this in it was on there and I do know that task list yes um Margar had a good thing to
say all the time let's put it on the back burner okay what do you ma'am i'm not sure are you asking me a question are you making a statement what are you telling me i just want to have a task list and you say Okay no we don't have one thank you ma'am anybody else have anything for the
council all right so we got um approval of the minutes that's in your folder item one i make a motion we we approve on presenting okay got a first and a second you call a roll
please miss Barrett yes miss Potterford yes mr chapel yes mr haney yes mayor Kelly yes thank you very much obviously item two is going to be rescheduled at a later time and before we have that meeting we're going to have some public workshops in uh in the next month
probably a week apart between the council meetings probably but we haven't had chance to schedule dates um uh let's see planning board recommendations that's you Mr sloan no sir the chair of the planning
commission is here okay do you have anything for the council Mr reagan approval you had you have uh by the lot split is the lot split person here hey how you
doing sir i don't see that wasn't on our last meeting so we're talking about Mr yeah come to the podium so we can record it um are you the guy that's got four lots and you want to take one of them and split it to a Well no so I'll tell
you uh give you a little background so this is my my third Well I've been to three planning meetings this is my first council meeting okay now the only reason I've been to three was my own fault nobody else would be so um the the last
planning meeting that I attended uh those guys came up with what I thought was a great idea and that no one no real estate agent had ever told me before anything but bottom line is I've got one I think it's close to an acre
parcel and I want to split it into four uh lots is what I wanted to do originally and then I found out that um you can only split it one time right without going through the correct civil engineering processes correct and
and make it a development and yes subdivision and all that kind of stuff right so uh so then I had decided just split it in half and just build two houses and still that's the end of your split right you know that yeah that that'd be it yeah so so that's where I
came to the last planning meeting and you know said hey this is this is what I want to do and I I guess they had had time to think about it from the planning meeting we had before and the fell that's sitting right there where you're sitting he came up with an idea he said "Well," he said "Why don't you do this?"
He said "Why don't you just split one lot small one as if you were splitting it into fours okay one time and then that way you'll have the other lots the other lot would be the size of three lots okay okay so we're splitting it
into one quarter and then you got three quarters he said "That way if you do that now you can go ahead and build this house here and then you can get the civil engineering done for for the development of the subdivision for the
remainder." And I No one had ever said that before i thought it was a great idea so I was like "Okay okay." So they asked me to turn in a uh updated survey that showed that what I was wanting to do and um that's what I did so here we
are okay very good mr reagan yes anything for the council yes please so Mr mcconnell there's the guy thank you for the the summary i I needed that did I say everything right you you did it exactly right oh great so Mr mcconnell has a couple of different options here
first of all there's nothing within our rules or the state rules that would preclude him from doing exactly what he wants to do we have rules within the land development rules which identify that he has to convert this into a subdivision application if he if he
splits three or more he's going to build one home at a time so he's not going to build all four of them and uh the state of Florida has what they call a short plat that he has an option we we gave you you remember that option oh yeah yeah yeah he would not necessarily have to go with a full long plat he could go with a
short plat because there's no roads no naming of the roads there's nothing else that he has to do it's not like a traditional subdivision where he's creating the roads creating you know names for the roads and then making sure that he's got outlets to uh other roadways so that those people have
access so he had the option to do a short plan as well short of that because of how he was planning on building his uh you know his homes he has the option to split it one time one quarter acre leave the three acres build that home
when he's done building it and selling it then he can split it again there's nothing in the state that says that he doesn't get more than one split and it's not a workaround it's not us gaming the system it was us attempting to help this gentleman so that it met his individual
needs so short of a short splat then he could do an individual split at this time and then move to the next split okay very good thank you Mr reagan thank you sir i'll make a motion to approve as want yeah any conversation from the council we have a motion do we have a
second second we got a motion in a second call the roll please miss Bar yes miss Bford yes mr chapel yes mr haney yes mayor Kelly yes thank you sir build a pretty house appreciate you yeah yeah you're good to go you got to
stay the whole time we have to stay you got to stay supper you got to suffer too is this for you Mr sloan item four i know it's the chair again is it the same guy a different different No this this one wants to combine two
lots oh we're going backwards now this is Mr okay are you here mr forehand mr forhand are you here i am how you doing sir you come to the podium likewise jerry Forhand i live at 105
South Campbell Avenue okay uh what I've got when I talked with them uh my square footage was right at for building a a house by combining the lots it was at 7,800 square feet
so that was marginal it was enough if the surrounding ones hadn't eaten uh how do I say it uh I was supposed to have 8,000 square feet
so the only way the way it's platted out right now uh the two pieces are from the adjoining lots i still own one of them 4932 on the road and I sold the little Stuckco house
next to it so I've got this is this one's down here right that's correct right there at end of 228 so what I've got I've got copies of two plans the I thought if you saw it it
might make a at least make some sense to you this is I'm looking at it i think you might that's the last guy yeah thank you can I ask you are you trying to combine this
lot and this It's a good thing you build houses Jerry and not draw pictures there's the second okay so are you combining lots to Yes to to
build one both of these to build one house okay this house and mobile home are going no no they're there that's That's the east side of my property i'm trying to think where this is at right here on the right here on
the corner John across from the old R&D Electric yes straight across from Bonnie's old place so uh the first one I hand you was straight lines and that's the 7,800 square feet
i uh because of uh the square footage of all that spot right there including the house the trailer and my two houses uh I'm supposed to have 8,000 square feet and how much you end up with and I got
7,800 with my lines being straight okay now the second one shows at the very bottom a 10 by 20 cutout on the house that I own 4932 which is uh the smaller section of
the property i can go to the very rear of it move over 10 ft and go to Tony's line in essence on his place and that gives me the extra 200 square feet if I have to abide by the two the 8,000 versus
straight line 7,800 7500 you're only required if that's low density residential it's only required to be 7500 right you you're already over the amount you need well I was told it'll be more than that it's going to be a long skinny house be awful skinny
house well a shotgun house well the lot itself is going to be uh 52 feet wide when you combine Yeah okay so I think you Okay mayor can I sure yeah by all means so there are
two rules that people in low density residential areas have to abide by one is a density rule and the second one is minimum lot size right so you remember the density rule for low density residential is five residences per acre so if you take
43,560 ft which is the square footage in an acre write that down it works out to about 8,700 square ft right so you may ask why is it that we have the dual so you may ask why do we have that dual rule the dual rule is let's say that you've got so if you've got point4
acres you could split it and and make two homes you got 6 you could split it and make three homes if you've got that kind of accommodation so that you don't increase the density of the area that's where the density rule kicks in you remember the rules within the LDRs and
the comprehensive plan say that the more stringent of the rules always go by yeah so Mr for so if you break if you just do the math on it if you've got one acre divided into five homes each homes would be an 8700 square ft of of area hold on
a second ladies you have anything you'd like to add to this conversation this is really important thank you go ahead sir so so the minimum lot size of 7500 square f feet is let's say somebody starts with point4 acres one of them could be 7,500 square f feet and then
the other one would still be 9,800 square feet which still not you wouldn't bleed through the the density ruling that we have so Mr beforehand was so close and he's looking at building a beautiful home on this property we went
ahead and suggested that he include that additional parcel of land to give him added space as he sounds like he did and that ultimately he would still be below the the minimum 8700 but it's close enough where we thought the council
might give it some consideration okay okay so it needs a variance to get to the density if the um what was the what was the total of the land when you added that
last segment it's now 53 by 15 okay if somebody could do that math that's 1500 square feet that's more more than enough yeah so what he's doing is he's combining two he he would still in order to not violate the density rule
you need to 8700 so if it's close that's why we suggested that you may want to hear what he has to say okay okay makes sense now well I I don't see any problem with it i think it looked nice there i think it would i think anything would help which
one are we looking at whichever one he needs crossing bodies no do I have to get a variance if I just go straight line at 7800 um I think you do but I I also think that you probably
already have enough space to do it and if not it's awful darn close you mean without the additional with the 10 by 20 with the addition with the addition would it say you needed 7500 is that what the minimum that's the
minimum lot size 7,500 if he's got 80 something doesn't he already have it 78 with the I got 78 straight lines with the addition he'll have the 8,000 it'll be enough it'll have enough yeah no mayor you have to look at the at the overall acreage so
one acre you have five houses and if Oh yeah there's already five houses on there you look at the number of houses in that immediate area um you know assuming they'd all be rebuilt where they are would you have
essentially five houses in one acre right well there's actually only a house on each side in the mobile home so there's only three residences right there and that the next thing is that little used to be a little golf course that's a Korean store or is that all any
of that going is that any of that being bull no no no uh so I'm not talking about five houses per thing i'm talking on 4932 i did own 4936 and there's the double wide trailer
behind 4936 those are the only three unless it's including Tony back there because the next thing over there's not a house that's that little business why don't you just build your fence further back in the Tony's yard and just claim that
that'll take care of it i used to own it mr sloan where do we stand legally on this so that we can have some advice before we move forward well I think in an abundance of caution you should go through the the variance process i'm not sure looking at his
numbers you have 53 uh by 133 it looks like if I'm adding that up correctly is that front parcel where the house is fronting East Business 98 showing on the property appraisers uh printout
it shows uh No I'm looking at the side trying to trying to figure out how long his sides are oh well they're so what what do you 150 because the house is is that 51 yeah
15t and 59 ft or is that uh so it looks like 173 feet is that what it is on the side oh it's 150 ft 150 ft
173 corner to corner times 53 that'd be 9,169 so he would he would meet that minimum requirement yeah requirement without a without a variance without a variance yes sir we had talked about the
the fact that it's 150 which is what it is i don't know that you need more than you've already gave well the the property appraisers map is showing that it's 173 feet uh is what it looks
like down the side are you telling me that that maybe that's wrong no he's not telling you that that's 91 that's not 51 that's 91 and 82 so 91 and 82 it's a mobile home 82 feet yes that's
173 so the side I sure thought it was the side would be 173 * 53 that'd be 9,169 which is exceeds the 87 amount you got to So you're right everything's okay well he he needs the council's approval
to lot but that's what you're wanting to do right i want to combine those two lots you're sure yes okay i'll make a motion for this man to combine his two lots okay without Tony's property make a long skinny house
well can be building houses right now in the city of Panama City that are Thank God go build one of them over there so we have a motion on the floor council we have a second madam will you please call a roll absolutely miss Barrow yes miss Potterford yes mr chapel yes mr haney
yes may yes thank you sir ron do you have anything you'd like to discuss yeah um Thursday night at the Parker Lodge we're stuffing the uh um
paper bags for for candy for uh the Easter egg hunt on Saturday and at 4:00 we're going to be putting out the Easter eggs uh around 12:00 12:30 and
um if you want to come out and help do those things we appreciate it the other thing is is uh I need to ask the council if I can have a uh community yard sale on the third of May at the U
pavilion um we have we've had have had a community yard sale before um but now we got a pavilion where people can get undercover in case it gets a little rainy or something like
that so uh just need to ask the council how to do that council anything with that we want to talk about that or I don't have a problem with it it'll be from 8:00 until people just decide we'll need a first
and second i make a motion that we got a motion that Mr chapel can be approved do you have his yard so do we have a second second we got a first and a second you call the role please excellent miss Barrow yes miss Bford yes mr chapel yes mr haney yes as long as I get 10%
mayor Kelly 10% goes back to the park yes yes kelly yes sounds good anything else Ron no that's your only approval you're getting today all right Mr haney you're up sir is it too late to put that on the It's too
late change it later water bills or anything it's too late we got Yeah it's too late now because it's already water bills already talked about these yep okay Miss Baron yes i had a couple
things um I would like to get an update on the hotel down there that I haven't heard anything on that does anybody do we know what's going on with it no I'm talking about the um one by
behind the bonfire the big one go ahead um as the council directed uh as a condition to the approval of the Marriott was the uh agreement with Callaway and I prepared the agreement i
sent it to Callaway's attorney and I have spoken with him probably three times and as late as today saying why aren't we getting any feedback why aren't we doing anything um my understanding and mayor you want
to elaborate mayor talked with your city manager yesterday I spoke with the city manager Mr uh Summerland had come to me huh eddie Cook eddie Cook yeah um I Mr summerland had come to me because the
delay in the permitting process is the sewer discharge and the reason for that is because the sewer won't stay in Parker it has to cross 98 and be u taken care of on the Callaway side so they have a mutual aid agreement between both
public works uh Mr someone had reached out to the public works director he said he couldn't approve it until it went through Mr cook so I called Mr cook in my office while Mr solomon was there and he said he'd call me back but I haven't
heard back from him yet so I called Mr sloan to find out what the status was with uh Obur the attorney for uh Callaway because anything of this caliber you wouldn't uh necessarily handle it ourselves it would go through
the attorneys for proper legal documentation so this is where we're at um Mr sloan has spoke to Obururst he has spoke to the attorney for Marriott and
as as of that I'm aware of as of today they have not responded back to us and this has been going on for and I explained to Mr provos that it was critical that we get some resolution on this interlocal agreement uh and that
from Parker's standpoint you know it was not that they were coming to ask us if they could hook up something it's that our public works folks had to find out that unbeknownst to Parker that they had hooked up some 150 uh properties to
Callaway Sewer that were in Parker and so um in other words they had attached to our sewer sewer line their their businesses their buildings and Mr cook did tell me that um they were going to go back through the record and find out
how much they had collected in water and sewer for those properties and uh write a check to the city of Parker and I'm I'm confident that they will because they just did the same thing to Springfield but as it stands right now no one's responded back and my fear is
if we if we uh don't move a little more expeditiously that the hotel might say we don't want to build here that's my fear do whatever we got to do so he and I talked about potentially having a meeting with Mr cook his public
works guy the mayor and his public works guy to try to get a final resolution on this i think mayor if they do in fact go back and do the calculation they're gonna owe the parker a whole lot of money yes and and I want it i want the
money if it's there and when they settled with Springfield my agreement is somewhat patterned after Springfield but when they settled with Springfield they they just set a dollar limit of what they were paying Springfield in the
agreement that um that I had drafted it it does two things three things really one it it quantifies who's connected to what and specifies that there will be no further connections to uh Callaway sewer
from residents of Parker right without the permission of the city of Parker absolutely the second it then talks about u impact fees from the Marriott and and using those impact fees to
quantify the amount that they would pay the city uh as to back charges so to speak making it somewhat more palatable to them as opposed to coming out of their general fund to pay u pay a large
amount of money i would think that would be attractive to Callaway but based on what the mayor's told me I'm not sure they understand that so um anyhow that's that's where it is i can I can uh call Mr os again tomorrow
and try to set up a meeting with him if that's what you'd like i think that would be the best thing at this point because you've talked to him and I've talked to him and Mr sland's talked to him and Mr sland tells me and I believe exactly what he said that he reached out to his counterpart in the city of
Galloway and the counterpart there said there was nothing he could do to the city manager agreed to it or uh had and and I that's that's what I think happened well maybe y'all should get together all of y'all and go have a meeting and tell him you need to do it ASAP right which I've already said to
him a couple of times in a letter but the telling the attorney that and the city manager may not be in the same boat well maybe you need to call the mayor i know he's the city manager but still well I have
to go through the attorney now the mayor may be able to do that call the mayor but but I can't I have to go through the attorney but I I'll try to set up the meeting mayor okay fair enough and the other thing I have is um I'm
addressing the council on this again i brought this up quite a while back about that camera up there i'm going to tell you that I've had too many people that want to come in here and bring things to the council and they won't come because they don't want to be their name splattered all
over wherever it all goes to everybody and it be on people can look at it from years to come um I don't like having to come and ask questions and get back with them to because they don't want to come in here and I've asked this council before
about doing something about that there's it Mr sloan there is no law that says we have to have that camera not to my knowledge ma'am um so you know if people want to know what's going on they can come down we have people that come every time every
meeting they're here they want to know what's going on they want to participate and people can't participate because they don't want to be here talked about and get on social media that they're the way that things are t been going on for quite a while now and you
know I don't know how y'all feel about it now y'all wouldn't go along with it before but I'm asking you i'm telling you I've got more people that want that out of here than people that want I don't even know anybody I've talked to that wants it in here so I'd like to know how the council
feels about it we have public com go ahead yes ma'am post 1344 Stratford i know exactly what Tanya is saying because it happens however this is a public meeting so Mr sloan if I'm not mistaken there would be
nothing to prevent somebody in the audience from recording it on an iPad happens all the time and then putting it out there on social media that's correct so I think it's a service to the community i I know a lot of people don't
like to stand up here and speak it doesn't bother me you guys know that it doesn't bother me to stand up here and say my two cents but then they have the confidence in you to speak to you and tell you what their problem is and it is unfortunate that you have to bring it here but isn't that your duty as a
councilman it's not my duty to have to come in here because a a person a a citizen of this city can't come in here and stand up there and feel comfortable talking to everybody it shouldn't have to come to me on certain things that they needed to be talking to the council well I've stood up here and I've had
Sergeant-at-Arms called on me before well you you you've been rude many times i'm outspoken i don't think I've ever been rude i don't think I call it rude okay well we have a differing opinion but if I wanted to call Mr mr haney and say "Mr haney I've got a question about this you know you brought up a comment
at a recent meeting and you were talking about this and you had a differing opinion and you were squashed you were you know put down oh no we don't want to hear that we don't want to talk about it." So you know there's is there a law
i don't know but I think people need they have a right to be transparent you have this city is so untransparent when it comes tired of hearing you say that that's all you put on social media about it being transparent transparent and you
accuse y'all you and other people accuse all of us of hiding things not telling you anything and you try to you put it out there to people that don't even live in Parker comment on it when they don't even know nothing about it so you know I you know I I'm I was talking to the
council about this this is they're the judge of the jury here so that many of the things that I don't do social media or even read it but there are many people that do put things on there not only they inaccurate
they're slanderous and I am of the opinion that we have reached the point now after probably a thousand foyer requests that we hire an attorney that can push back a little bit because I'm for being transparent but
I'm not for being slandered and I understand what Miss Barrow is saying i don't care if the camera's there or not but the uh people sit in this audience all the time and videotape us and then run home like a little rat and put it on social media and pretend like there's
some kind of untoward activity occurring at the Parker City Council and there is not that is absolutely never happens and so um I see what she's saying people say stuff to me all the time and I just have to assure them that that that camera is
just it could be a good thing too sometimes it could be a good thing but not always and there are people in this room right now who have put things on social media that are slanderous absolutely lawsuit slanderous so then I would suggest the
city pursue action absolutely we're going to thank you council would you would you support me um taking some kind of legal action against people that put inaccuracies on social media and taking some kind of legal action against
them because otherwise what's the point of sitting here and being uh abused by these individuals that that give inaccurate information to other folks and I'll tell you it just amazes me that
that that we've had to tolerate this for so long how do you feel about that any conversation on it i think you need to do whatever you got to do i think social media is just a joke anyway i mean you're going to get people that want to hide behind a keyboard and say whatever
they want to say that's true John they do they sit there and they they sit there in their living room but as far as a camera goes I wish they moved to this side so they get a pretty side instead yeah done i will have that i mean Mr chapel how do you feel about taking some
kind of uh action back for these people that I mean you get beaten up on there all the time people are putting on there that you took the money that we took the money from the Easter eggs and down to the damn Masonic Lodge and hit it all up i mean it never happened no it never happened the only reason I use the
Masonic lodge do thing because it's a big bill and a lot of things that we do are after hours from the city so it's a convenient place to meet and do things everybody on this council wants to do
good for the city of Parker everybody on this council i'm here every single day and I see all these people do great things all the time for free they're not getting compensated they don't want to be compensated kate what do you think about this
i mean whatever you want to do man i mean I get slandered and and defamed on a daily basis because of my job but you know if that's if that's what people if that's how people want to get their giggle in life then I mean so be it yeah
I understand i get I get my giggle in life every day doing the job that I do but that's just my job okay okay i mean you you do what you feel needs to be done all right brings me to you do you have anything you'd like to talk about i don't have anything to talk about miss
Barry you still have the floor anything else well I just was asking council what they want to do about it i mean me personally I could care less a camera i think it's if it's not a law that we're required to have it it can go in the garbage for like I mean people are going to twist
your words around irregardless i must agree Kate i mean that is I mean in in the job profession on a daily people would twist your words around so fast and so quick regardless regardless if it's on
video your words don't mean anything because somebody's going to change it a different way and turn people against you so irregardless whether it's on camera or not what we say really doesn't matter because somebody's going to change it anyways well it's it's it's on audio
every and that's not even required if I have to wear a body cam or a body microphone the law says the clerk has the authority to record it the way she hears it that's what the law says oh that's what she gets paid to do so I think that's that's
why we don't need a list or um a ledger or And my question is is when you bring up the list situation is there people who feel like our city clerk's not doing a good job exactly because I could tell you beyond this she does a fantastic job she does so I mean
is is is this really about stabbing people or I mean I'm with you because now all of a sudden now it seems like people are stabbing the city clerk her job's not good enough so I mean they've done that all along i mean no matter who we pick
apparently they're not good enough we're not changing clerk so I don't care what happens so so no I I don't care for the camera it can go okay well all right ladies and gentlemen thank you for tonight and I appreciate you coming
appreciate everybody being here mr long i didn't want to