Right, Tom. >> Okay, you are ready, Nora. Thank you. Meeting of Township of Precipany Troy Hills Planning Board for Monday, August 4th, 2025 to 7:30 p.m. Um, if you would call the role, please.
>> Mr. Dich, >> here. >> Mr. Dpiro, >> here. >> Councilwoman Hernandez, >> here. >> Mr. Mey, >> here. Mr. Matt, >> present. >> Mr. Npalitano >> here. >> Mr. Shaw >> here. Chairman Dinsmore here. We also have our board planner, Miss Winter,
>> our board engineer, Mr. Banerjee, and our board attorney, Miss Stein. >> All right. Announcement is made that adequate notice of this meeting has been given and that it is being conducted in accordance with NJSA 104-6
of the New Jersey Open Public Meetings Act. We could have the pledge of allegiance, please. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, liberty and
justice for all. >> All right, this meeting is open to the general public. Is there anyone here from the general public who wishes to speak to us on something that is not on our agenda tonight? Hearing and seeing none, we have no resolution. So we can go right to the
agenda item of application number 24 col 533 Rutgers Builders LLC Rutgers Lane block 767 lot 7.3. This is preliminary and final major site plan with C variance to construct a storage building with
restrooms and gym lighting and gym lighting landscaping and pavilion with amenities. I got to be careful of my commas or I could end up with eat shoots and leaves. >> Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of the board. Joseph O'Neal of Gafal O'Neal
Rogerio here on behalf of Rucker Village. Believe we have some waiverss to address first. >> Yes, we do. >> All right. So, we have on appendix A number 12, which is the letter of
interpretation or letter of exemption or application to the D. um a trusting waiver. There are no map wetlands on the property. So, we don't have an objection to that. On number 13, which is for obtive
covenants or deed restrictions, the applicant say that there are none that exists on this lot that have any effect on this development. We don't have an objection to that. Um on form five number eight the boundaries of property
um let's mention some things including meets and bounds description because this is a portion of a larger site that is being worked on many of these waiver requests are related to this they have provided um the area that they working on but not the entire site
uh waiver from the number 10 location and natural features uh Again, they've depicted them within the project limit, but not the greater site. Um 13 is the location of existing buildings
and their setbacks from property lines. Again, the location of the site but not the entire property. Um 15 again with the parking. Uh 18 existing proposed utility services. Again, the project
area is shown but not the full site. Number 24, the location and design of solid waste disposal containers. Applicants stated that none are proposed. We don't have objection to this waiver, but we would like testimony as to who, what, if any, garbage, and
how it would be handled. Uh, form seven, number three, because it's combined preliminary and final. Uh, and the item is for separate sheets for that. They're providing only one sheet. We don't have an objection to that. On
form 10, a lot of these are repeats of previous ones. Number seven is boundaries of the track in question. Uh nine, the location of an actual features, 13, parking, and 14, existing and proposed signs. Um just ask that
they confirm there are no proposed signs. And that will be it. >> Okay. Um, do I have a motion approving the waivers listed in the AR memo of 72925?
>> Mr. Chairman, a motion to approve the waiverss as noted. >> Do I have a second? >> Second. >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? >> Hearing and seeing none. Sir, >> thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Uh
so this is a proposal to replace an old pool house and pool with a brand new accessory structure that'll be used for storage mostly. And there's a small gym area being included in it. And we're basically improving that whole section
of the uh apartment complex is being utilized for the pool with this new building and some additional sculpted green space to be used by the tenants which we think is a better use of this building. Uh we're retiring the pool
obviously. Um, so along those lines, this property has been developed since really really the 70s, uh, as you see it, and I think you can tell that by the age of the buildings. We've tried to incorporate in our design with this new accessory structure, some of those
design elements, the brick, etc., but obviously, it's going to be more modern building. It's going to answer to answer some of the questions that were brought up in planners report. There's really no staff involved with this. This is going to be a passive storage building and the
gym is not going to be attended. Um, so there's not going to be any additional staff. Nothing's being sold out of it. The only deliveries will be received upon occasion for materials used to help with the maintenance or reconditioning of apartments in the in the complex
itself. And we'll get into the details about lighting and garden area with my first witness who is going to be Chris. This please raise your right hand. Do you
swear affirm that the testimony that you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Please state your name, spell your last name, and provide your address for the record. >> Christopher Simzac, Sz Y M C Z A K for
Blake Drive. >> Mr. Sim, could you give the board please the benefit of your experience? >> Yep. I was registered in 1991 from the state of New Jersey. >> Speak into the microphone, please. [Music]
1991 I was registered in New Jersey as a registered architect and I've been working for Appel Design Group since 1993. >> I would propose Mr. Sims as a expert for architectural purposes this evening.
>> Are there any questions on the uh witness's uh um abilities to do this? >> Your your license is in good standing. >> Yes, it is. And um you've testified before this board before or >> not this board >> other boards in Morris County?
>> Yes. >> Okay. No questions. >> Sir. >> Okay, Mr. Simpson. Let's start with Candy. This is the proposed building you put up there, right? >> Yes, it is. >> Is that a uh is that provided to the board previously?
>> No, the rendering was not uh submitted as part of the application. >> We should mark We'll mark that as exhibit Ace for this evening. >> And could you just describe the exhibit for us? >> So that's a rendering of the proposed
accessory building, isn't it? >> Correct. This is a rendering of the the the front of the building, front side view of the building. um taken fairly close to one of the apartment uh adjacent apartment buildings
>> and that was prepared under your direction. >> Yes, it was. >> Thanks. >> Can you describe for us what we're showing there, please? >> Yes. This is a woodframe onestory building. Uh the total square footage is
2680 ft. uh 1913 square ft of that is storage and then the gym is 767 square ft. And then there's two two additional bathrooms. One services the outside amenity space and one services
the gym. And there is a second uh there's a stair going up to just a unfinished attic space that's below the roof that will also be used as overflow storage. >> You heard my description was being stored there. Is that your
understanding? >> Yes, I my understanding is was any maintenance or construction materials for renovating apartments, you know, filters for furnaces, any any maintenance items will be stored here. which I believe are currently being
stored in some of the units that are not uh being rented out. So, this is a consolidation location for for all all you know maintenance items. >> There's no chemicals or anything being proposed to be stored. >> No
pool equipment's gone. So, that was a that's a big uh big one that's gone. Can you show us the floor plan? Just everyone has an idea. So blow up of your plan that you provided to the board, right?
>> Yes, that's correct. >> To the left is the storage area you you described. >> Correct. >> Access through that one door there. There's there's a front entry door for a man door uh sort of near the stair right there. And then to the left there is an
overhead door for you know maintenance items uh plows uh shovels anything bulky will come through the overhead door >> and the gym on the right >> and the gym is on the right. >> That's what you were showing in your rendering the glass.
>> Yes. Correct. >> Have no further questions for this women. Members of the board have questions on this testimony at this time. Go ahead. >> The height of the building, um, your plans show it to be 25. That's to the highest point on the on the top,
right? >> Correct. >> Cuz I think you're only allowed to be 15 ft according to our planner for an accessory structure. Um, isn't the height of >> It should be to the midpoint. >> It's supposed to be the midpoint of the highest gable. That's what I thought. >> Correct.
>> It'll still put you over. We came in. I I did the math today. Actually, I went to the CAD. Uh currently from the uh midpoint of the highest roof, the average grade is 17 foot three.
>> So you I'm sorry. So So the height according to our ordinance is 17. >> Correct. >> Okay. 15 required by ordinance 17. >> Right. Okay. Um, is there a technical reason why it has to exceed our
ordinance allowance? >> Nothing technical saying it has to be higher than that. It's just aesthetic and um, you know, it's it's just a an aesthetic thing that we tried to make the building uh, a little bit nicer than than the rest of the construction that's
out there and and upgrade the site >> and walking and storing materials on the second floor. Correct. Okay. Other members of the board have questions on this testimony at this time. Our professionals have any
questions? >> I do have one question. How does the height of this building compare to like a neighboring garden building? >> It is very close to many of the structures right in right in this development. They're two stories plus
the shallow roof. So we're very close to to this. >> So you're saying in your opinion it fits into the immediate aesthetic of the neighborhood? >> Absolutely. This does not overpower, you know, the the neighborhood uh the the
adjacent buildings are very much in the character of this building. >> Okay. No other questions. Are there any members of the public who have questions of this witness? Hearing and seeing none. Councelor,
>> Mr. Delaney, you please raise your right hand. Do you swear? Affirm that the testimony that you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. >> I do. >> Please state your name, spell your last name, and provide your address for the record. >> Certainly. Sean S Delaney Dy
uh Three Paragon Way uh Freehold, New Jersey. >> Mr. Delaney, can you give the board please the benefit of your experience? >> Certainly. I have a uh graduate of NGIT in 1999 with Bachelor of Science in Civil Engineering. I've uh obtained my professional New Jersey professional
engineers license in 2003. Um I've been practicing engineering since that time. Appeared before several planning and zoning boards throughout the state. Um some have been a while since I've been in Morris County, but Mount Olive Township, Rockaway Township. Um most recently I've been in uh We
Hawkins, Scotch Plains, uh and Cranberry Township as well. Um I'm also a licensed planner in the state of New Jersey. providing planning testimony also since 2008 and have provided uh planning both engineering and planning testimony on applications such as this uh uh
throughout my career >> and the license is in good standing. >> Okay. Any questions on the qualifications of this expert? >> Just just one on the planning license that you have. Did you get it by examination or did you get it by mailing a check? >> I got it by examination. Yes. I'm not an
AICP planner, just a New Jersey professional planner. >> Okay. Thanks. All right. Any other questions? Hearing and seeing none. Councelor, >> thank you, Mr. Delaney. Uh, we're going to mark this as exhibit A2. I actually
asked you to bring this. This is the uh overview of the entire complex. >> Yes. Yeah. Yes, exit. >> It should be You probably flipped the
thing. >> Uh, this is There we go. Uh exhibit A2 is an existing conditions aerial plan showing the entire subject property uh located or surrounded by the white uh thick line and that is dated uh
today's date 8422025 prepared by um our office. >> Now can you just indicate for us where the uh proposed accessory structure is going to go where the pool is right now? >> Certainly. So, the subject property, the subject development is located at the
top of the page in the northwest corner of the property. Uh, access off of Route 46 into Reuters's Lane. It's nearby that access point furthest from Edward Road, Edwards Road. Okay. So, getting to what we're talking
about, this rendering was not provided to the board, right? Correct. >> So this is A3. You're showing the proposed building along with the uh landscaping. >> Yes, this is a uh sorry this is uh A3 is
a site plan rendering of the proposed development uh dated today's date uh 8425 uh prepared by our office as well. >> That was done under your supervision, right? >> Yes, it was. >> Okay. So that's our A3. Why don't you describe first what we're
looking at? >> Just go ahead and describe the project. >> Certainly. So, as the uh the architect pointed out, the site contained an existing building and an existing pool area. And there's also an existing playground um on the north side of the
space. Right now, the the pool has been removed. to the building and the playground will also be removed and replaced with a new storage building with a gym and bathrooms located essentially the same location as the previous building just expanding further to the north uh in size. the um the
building height as we talked about uh it does exceed the 15 ft max as was testimony was provided it's approximately 17' 3 in I guess with the average grade uh with some grading comments that were that were put in the plan with some drainage aspects there might be some changes to the average
grade so we would request a a a variance to 18 ft just to allow for fluctuations in that in that average grade potentially that would occur. Um, we're also proposing a pavilion in the center of the the walkways that are proposed through the area. That building will
have a maximum height of 15 ft or structure will have a maximum height of 15 ft. There are picnic tables uh proposed underneath it. Benches provided around the perimeter sorry the perimeter of it location to the north and south of it along the walkway. Uh private an area
with um two proposed grills right now. Um those areas also covered with a decorative paver material as is the surface underneath the pavilion. Um we're relocating the the playground into an the area in the on the north
side of it with an access road access walk around the perimeter of it. All the fencing that's existing right now will be removed except the the southern the southern and the western fence. The fence that was you that was there previously for enclosing the pool is obviously not no longer needed and that
includes the fence that we show on our plan is being reconstructed on the south side that's going to be uh taken off the plans as well and removed. >> So that's a change to the >> that is a change to the plans. Yes, there was some comments on the that material and height of that fence that height that fence is being removed as
there's really no purpose to it um as there was before. Um the grading of the site will follow the same pattern. It gra grades to all four corners of this area right now. Um offsite to the west to the offsite to the north and then towards some existing
inlets that are on the site to the east. Uh we're going to follow those same patterns. Um there is uh we understand there's a soil movement application requirement. We are did some preliminary numbers on here. We will be less than the 1,000 cubic yards uh required for a
major uh application for that. um should unfortunately that if should that change obviously we understand we'd have to come back to the board for an approval but right now we will be uh below that number as proposed. >> So that's a minor permit rule >> that would be a minor so uh >> permit for that
>> um landscaping provided. We have some larger trees located around the uh edge of the pavilion. Two uh deciduous trees also located at the the face of the building um facing the north area. There are a variety of uh deciduous evergreen
shrub shrubs proposed around the building foundation and then the rest of the landscaping consists mostly of ground cover and ornamental grasses scattered throughout the walkways and around the the playground area. Um, in
those locations, six LED light poles are proposed, uh, shown in yellow on exhibit A2, mounted 4 ft high, 14 ft high, uh, 3,000 Kelvin, which is a very low soft, uh, light color, so nothing bright that
would uh, result in an impact to the, uh, residents and then the adjacent buildings. Um, proposed to be operated from from dusk to dawn um, at these locations. utilities, uh, sanitary, sewer, and water. Currently, they come
from the middle of building number five and run into the existing building. We're going to propose to reuse those, uh, services. The plans show them coming from the uh, northwest corner of of the building. Uh, we're relocating those to the existing services due to some
additional investigations that were that were made prior to the hearing. Um other utilities, gas will come out of the exist also building 5 and will run into the uh the far side the west side of the proposed building and electric right now
is serviced off uh an existing utility pole overhead. The overhead service will be removed and a drop and underground service will be provided from that utility pole. Um as I mentioned there are two inlets located adjacent to building number five on the site. They
are connected with with appears to be a 15-in pipe. Through our investigations, um based on the water and sewer line, you know, finding them located further to the south, the only crossing will be with the gas man. So, there should be easy, there should be no conflicts with
that uh that design. Uh with regard to storm water management um we are having a slight increase in imperous surfaces um you know over the entire site of about 4% or as it as it calculates out about 2600 square ft. Uh we understand
that we had to provide for comply with those uh um the regulations in the ordinance. Um the building will have roof leaders associated with it. Uh the building is 3,000 ft². So all the roof can go into um some kind of an infiltration pipe as required uh by the
ordinance um to provide the necessary um compliance with that with that section of the ordinance and that will connect directly into one of the inlets on site. >> So we will uh coordinate that post approval with the engineering department. >> Yes, we will.
>> And we'll agree to any conditions they may Yes. Um, and that that >> Let's talk a little bit about the design of the uh pavilion. >> Certainly. >> That's going to be a uh a roof above the
uh picnic table soon. >> Certainly. Yes. There's going to be some post surrounding outside, a roof above it um fitting within the uh hexagonal shape that's located on the site. The exact shape right now has not been determined. It may be rectangular. It may be hexagonal. But it will not exceed
the limits of what is shown on the plan um that was presented. >> And the roof itself will be shingle matching the proposed building. >> Yes, it will. >> As I mentioned, it will be the height of that building structure will will be in compliance with the ordinance at 15 ft max. >> Will there be any lighting site?
>> Um there will be some lighting underneath it possible some string lights, some you know decorative aesthetic lighting. We're not looking for big flood lights or anything. Just some some soft ambient lighting underneath it to light that area. Um they will be recessed up into the into
the roof area primarily so it will not spill out um you know past the uh the structure itself. >> Will those lights be on till dawn or >> those lights will turn off uh I believe around 10:00 at night. >> And the gym itself will open up around
7. My understanding is the operating hours of the gym will be from 7:00 a.m. to approximately 10 p.m. >> Now, what is the distance >> between what we're proposing and the sideyard? [Music] [Music]
[Music] [Music] So for the accessory for the building, uh on the north side, we're looking at 35 ft through here.
Um, and the that's the sideyard setback and the sideyard to the uh south side. I'm not really sure. I guess maybe something in this direction uh will be more than 6 ft required to that point. Rear yard setback um substantially are 10 ft. We're at 224.
Um and the minimum distance any buildings is 30 feet over 30 feet. >> So we're well in compliance with the ordinance. >> Yes. For an accessory building. Yes. Well, that's all my engineering questions. I uh give us a little planning
testimony. This is obviously going to require AC variance related to the accessory structure. It's all right if I go into that or should we pause for some questions for >> I'm going to turn to our engineer and see if he has any questions at this time
on this testimony. >> Yeah, I do have a couple of questions. Um, starting with the storm water management where you're going to propose. Um, you're saying that that you plan on tying that in to the existing system, right? Not an infiltration.
>> There'll be it'll be an infiltration component, but the uh for meet the requirements is a 3 in over per square foot requirement for storage infiltration. Any larger storms will then be connected for discharge. >> Okay. Got it. Have you done any uh soils investigation out there? Know what the
soils? >> Not yet. We would have to do those. Confirm that. >> Okay. Um and then my only other question is the playground uh surface. That's like a um impervious material, right? Not a uh is
that count? I just wanted to make sure that that was accounted for as a an impervious material. >> It's a it's an engineered wood material. It's not a uh like a soft spongy playground surface. Yeah. So, water will be able to get through it through that. Okay.
>> I believe that's how it's represented on the plans as well. An engineered wood. >> Engineered wood fiber. Yeah. I wasn't sure what that material is. Okay. Okay. >> All right. Anything else? I I suspect it's probably best to move on at this point and then we'll get around.
>> Can I do one question? >> So, when you talk about impervious, the change in impervious, the existing pool that you're taking out, did did you count that as impervious? that was counted as part of the existing coverage uh with the entire development. Yes. >> Okay. Yeah. Good. Just because our
ordinance calls that impervious. >> I know it's a point of contention with some people. >> I don't have a contention with pools. I with detention basins. That's where it gets a little fuzzy in my mind, but >> pools are pert. >> Agreed. >> Fair enough.
>> Just one qu two questions. Um are there any changes to parking? >> Yeah. I know. >> No. And are there any new signs? >> No new signs proposed uh for the development. There may be identification sign of the building put on for the gym
entrance identifying the entrances doors to which the facility but direct directional signs more >> exempt sign. Yes, you can handle that through zoning. >> Correct. >> So plan >> so I have one question certainly. >> Uh thank you for that rendering. Uh who
can use the gym? It'll be residents of the facility. >> How do they have access to that garage too or two separate locks? How's that work? >> Do do you have a representative of the development that might be able to answer some of the operational questions? >> Sure, we can >> because I think that goes a little bit
beyond the engineering. >> Okay. >> Questions. >> Just we'll get No, you can finish up with Sean. I'll >> let him testify later. >> Okay. All right. For the planning side of things. So, uh I believe the uh the
accessory building height justified under the C2 criteria um which would state that the purpose of the municipal land use law would be advanced by a deviation from the zoning ordinance requirement and the variance can be granted without substantial detriment to the public good. The
benefits of the deviation would out would uh substantially outweigh any detriment and the variance will not substantially impair the intent and purpose of the zone plan or the zoning ordinance which is a negative criteria. So in my mind my in my professional opinion the purposes of zoning that will
be advanced uh for the the granting of the ordinance is purpose a to encourage municipal action to guide the appropriate use or development of all lands in the state in a manner which will promote the public health safety morals and general welfare.
particularly that the proposed use uh is is appropriate for the existing residential development to provide an amenity area and gym to the residents and indoor storage of materials for the maintenance of the tenants facilities and grounds which will promote the public health and general welfare of the height. uh
primarily there for the the uh extra height of the um some extra height in the gym area um in order to maybe be able to use the facility properly um not have a low ceiling. Raises raises that roof line a little bit and then you know the storage on the extra second second
floor provides the much needed storage for the facility uh and takes it out of uh potential rentable rooms for tenants. Uh purpose C they provide adequate light air and open space. uh the building occupies the existing building and maintains the open space for use by the
residents. Um if the building height potentially drop down a little bit, the aesthetics Oh, I'll get to the next one. Sorry. Um building height drop down uh below that you potentially lose some of the storage may be upsided which could result in an expansion of the footprint which would not be a benefit in in this case and increase the impervious
surfaces and um in the area. And then purpose I to promote a desirable visual environment through creative development techniques and good civic design and arrangement. The building height as was testified to is consistent with the surrounding residential buildings. The roof line as design provides a desirable
visual environment consistent with current design standards and the building design is aesthetically pleasing and complements the surrounding area. um the negative criteria. So no variance or other relief may be granted without showing that such variance or other relief can be granted without
substantial detriment to the public good or not substantially impair the intent and purpose of the zone plan and zoning ordinance. So my opinion is that it can be granted without substantial detriment that which I believe there is none um for the following reasons. While while an accessory building the total height
of the building roof is complimentary to the surrounding buildings design as I stated provides aesthetically pleasing roof structure for the building in line with the other residential buildings and as I've mentioned also the extra height in the gym is typical provides extra storage in the attic space and keeps the
footprint you know at smaller than it could be if we had to potentially lower the roof and and comply. Um so therefore in my professional opinion I believe there is no substantial detriment to the public good no substantial impairment to the intent and purpose of the zone plan and planning ordinance of the municipality and that for these reasons
stated uh previously that the proposed variance will not substantially impair the intent and purpose of the of those the master plan zone ordinance and the benefits of granting the variance will substantially outweigh any detriments. >> Thank you very much. >> Have no further questions for this.
Christine, do you have any uh >> No, you you covered all the pertinent points. >> Members of the board have any questions of this testimony? >> Hearing and seeing none from here. I do have one technical question.
Your aerial you dated it today. Is there any clue as to when the actual picture was taken? [Music] The picture uh
I'm looking for >> I mean I recognize you. >> Sorry. Uh the picture was uh from imagery captured on March 18th, 2025 by through the near map website aerial website >> and it reasonably represents the
conditions of the the location as it stands today. >> Yes, it does. >> Okay. I just we keep getting these aerials where they the people like you date it today and I can see that there
no leaves on the trees. So >> correct the date of the aerial is the date the plan was created and put together for presentation not the date of the map. So thank you for clarifying that. >> All right. Thank you very much. Uh, any members of the public have any questions
on this witness and this testimony at this time? Hearing and seeing none. Counselor. >> Yes, Mr. Lo. [Music] >> Right here. [Music]
>> If you please raise your right hand. Do you swear affirm that the testimony that you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> Yes, sir. Please state your name and spell your last name for the record and provide your address. >> James Loveies, L O V E Yss. I live at
Sixfield Crest Court in Randolph, but I have a mendum mailing address. >> Thank you. And could you provide your title? Um, >> I'm I'm managing member of Ruckers Builder Builders. Okay.
>> All right, Mr. Lovey. So, uh, you heard we had one operational question which was regarding access to the gym area and the storage area. So, could you explain to us how that's going to work? >> Sure. Uh, there's two doors that will
access the uh storage area. one being a a an overhead garage door type uh and a three-foot door uh to the right of that almost adjacent
to the gym door. However, there's a little well I guess the jog occurs after the door. Um they will be locked uh differently. Our staff will have the keys to all the doors. Um but the
tenants would not receive a key uh for the storage area. Um we haven't completely discussed how we will access or have the allow the tenants to access the gym, but the thought is some type of
card system uh that we can number and keep track of what which tenants are using the facility. uh as well as you know some type of camera system uh inside so that we can
you know just keep keep track of the goings on you know a recorded type thing not that someone's going to be sitting and monitoring. >> Now we had some prior testimony uh that the gym area is going to be open 7 in
the morning till 10 at night. >> That's our proposal. U we felt that was reasonable. Um, I'm not certain if there's any town ordinance that would, you know, be against that, but we thought that was a a reasonable time
frame. And the pavilion area will be open till about 10 at night. Certainly able to be utilized earlier than that. But, uh, >> yeah, >> turn the lights out on building at 10.
>> The same thing. um whether it be a timed light or a you know or maybe the use of a photo cell um we haven't come to that conclusion yet. We do um we do concern ourselves with safety. Uh although it is
uh you know the area exists today um you know we we do not want to create a new amenity that people may be using you know at night uh after hours. Um, you
know, for the safety of those, uh, you know, our tenants, we would probably have some type of ability for those lights to illuminate if there was activity there. >> Is it accessible to outside the public
out other people? >> I mean, I >> Well, we're not a gated community, right? >> Um, >> but never have been. We've existed for 65 years and you know have not had any issue >> and I I I'm not certain that this is the
type of amenity that's going to necessarily attract a lot of outside >> and your gym. What kind of equipment like how many people could be in there at one time? >> We'll we'll work with a with a you know an equipment company. Um, you know, the
thought is basic treadmills, exercise bike. Um, I'm I don't know necessarily free weights, but um certainly, you know, a couple of benches with maybe a dumbbell rack, uh, and maybe some type
of universal I, you know, I, you know, some piece of equipment that you can do multiple exercises off. I have no further questions for this. >> Other members of the board have questions on this testimony at this time.
>> There there were questions about the trash removal. >> Thank you for reminding me. Yes. >> Yeah. So, um we don't anticipate staffing this site. I think that was mentioned already. Um we will locate
garbage containers um you know around the area that the residents can utilize. Um we would anticipate uh you know that if there was a birthday party or some bigger function that they
want to hold you know under the pavilion that to some extent they would take care of their own garbage. But nonetheless, um we'll have fac you know uh containers staged and our our staff will monitor
that. >> How far is the existing trash >> containers? >> Yeah, >> I believe there's one right at the end of the existing driveway now. The existing >> So it could pretty easily be utilized by
someone having a party. Yeah, they uh most of the parking lots, if not all, have at least one container. I believe we have a sixyard and an 8 yard currently. Um, one of them may be back towards the
end of the existing drive to the ex existing pool house. >> Uh, and the other one's located in the parking lot. Okay. because there's not going to be staff there on a permanent basis. You don't
want to create a situation where trash is on. >> Oh, correct. But they would monitor that on, you know, as as needed basis. I mean, I I think once uh things get going and people realize it's there and start
utilizing it, we'll get a feel for, you know, the weekends may be higher traffic than during the week, but it'll be monitored. And that's the same with the bathrooms and the gym area too, >> right? >> A quick clarification, you mentioned
about birthday parties, but nothing inside the new structure, right? Or the gym, >> everything outside, right? >> No. Yeah, we we did not propose um you know a community type room. Um we had we had considered that but we just we felt
that there you know that that comes with its own issues, >> right? Yeah. Okay. >> So, >> thank you. You're welcome. >> Other members of the board have questions. >> Mr. Chairman, >> Mr. Bailey, >> looking at the first floor plan and
specifically at the two lavatories, it appears that one of the doors leads into the gym, but as I look at it, it appears that the second laboratory, the door goes out to the outside. Is that correct?
>> Yes. So, we have um a bathroom facility for those people that are utilizing the outside space, whether it be the sitting area outside of the gym or, you know, whatever. We've got a little walking path around the entire thing that
>> Okay. >> If somebody has to go to the bathroom, they've got >> So, I assume that walk that door would be locked at night or whatever. >> Correct. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> You're welcome. Other members of the board hearing and seeing none up here. Are
there any members of the public who have any questions on this testimony at this time? Hearing and seeing none. Thank you, >> councelor. >> Well, that concludes our application. Uh, pretty straightforward and I would
just rest on the testimony provided. >> Okay. Are there any members of the public who wish to speak in favor or opposition of this application at this time hearing? And seeing none, this closes the evidentiary portion of tonight's hearing. Uh, is there a
motion? Mr. Chairman, a quick question or clarification. I'm looking at the page seven of the U technical review. Um, the proposed height there is mentioned as 25 ft. I'm not sure. Um are is the
variance for 17 or 18 or 25? >> That was to >> You're going to ask for 18. >> We amended to 18. Yes, we did. >> 18. >> The plans will be updated as necessary. >> Yeah. Well, we're going to need to do a revision to remove the fence that was originally there for the pool. So, we'll
also add the height measurements to that. Okay. Actually I should ask from our attorney what are the conditions that we have uh indicated that >> so it was an amendment to a variance a
height variance for the accessory building of 18 ft. Um the plans will be updated to reflect that change and also the removal of the fence. Um and that the application was amended to include the minor soil movement moving permit.
Um and if additional changes are needed, you'll have to come back. Um correct. >> The applicant will coordinate with the township and board engineer um regarding any conditions for storm water management >> and we'll do the soil testing as needed.
Um and then just the testimony about the operations of the building, locking things, lighting, all of that. >> Yeah. Well, to the extent we need to accept those as conditions.
>> All right. Now, is there somebody willing to make a motion subject to those conditions? >> Mr. Chairman, >> Mr. each. Uh motion to approve application number 24 col 533 Builders LLC Edgars Lane block 767 lot
7.3 linary and final major site plan with C variance to construct a storage building with restrooms and gym lightning lighting landscaping and pavilion with amenities with conditions as noted.
>> Is there a second? Second me. >> All right, we have two seconds. >> I'm sorry. >> Miss Hernandez and Mr. Mey both seconded. >> Uh, any discussion before we vote on this? Nor, would you call a role, please?
>> Yes. >> Pierro, >> yes. >> Fernandez, >> yes. >> Neely, yes. >> M, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Shaw, >> yes. >> Dmore, >> yes. >> Thank you everyone. Have a great >> result. we move forward on this. All right. Is
there anything else, Nora, that we need to have uh discussions of? >> Uh nothing really, though. I'd just like to mention our next meeting, we have a minor application. So, uh those who come in for the regular meeting, if they could just not come in through the back
in case we're still going on. >> We'll try to remember that. >> I'll put a reminder. No, >> Gordon, you'll be in charge. Yay. >> Is there anything else? >> Do we have anything else? [Music]
>> Yep. >> Is there a motion to adjourn? >> Anybody? >> Say no to this. >> I'm going to stay here forever. You never know.