Five. Introduction. Posting a notice. Adequate notice of this meeting has been provided in accordance with the requirements of the open public meeting law by following the notice in the office of the township clerk and by posting the meeting notice on building bulletin board on the municipal building on December 2nd, 2024 which remained posted since that day. A legal notice appeared on the daily record in New York
ledger on December 6th, 2024. Can I please ask everyone to stand for the flag salute >> to the flag of the United States of America and [clears throat] to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice
for all. >> Roll call. Mr. Hernandez >> here. >> Mr. McGrath >> here. >> Mr. Mucella >> here. >> Mr. Neglia >> here. >> Mr. Karifi >> here. Also in attendance are business administrator Jamie Cryan, Mayor Jamie Barbario, Township Attorney Michael
Levery, Municipal Clerk Colet Madden, Council President. We have a quorum. Can we begin? >> Yes, please. >> Upcoming meetings 12:16 [clears throat] 25 at 7 p.m. which is the regular meeting, January 6, 2026 at 6:30 p.m. which is the reorganization meeting and
then followed by the agenda meeting. Uh at this time we're going to quickly go into executive session um for about 15 minutes. We don't anticipate any action be taken. Uh at this time I'm going to go ahead and read the exe executive session resolution. Whereas the open public meetings act PL
1975 chapter 231 permits inclusion of the public from a meeting in certain circumstances. And whereas the township council is of the opinion that such circumstances presently exist. And whereas a township council wishes to discuss attorney client privilege matters on affordable housing. And whereas minutes will be kept and once the matter involving the confidentiality of the above no longer requires
confidentiality, the minutes can be made public. Now therefore, be it resolved by the town of Council of Township Hills. That's probably excluded from this meeting. Can I please have a motion to adjourn? >> Make a motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Mucella, seconded by Mr. Neglia. Roll call. Mr. Hernandez.
>> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. Yes, >> Mr. Mucella. >> Yes, >> Mr. Neglia. >> Yes. >> And Mr. Kari. >> Yes. >> Okay. We're going to temporarily adjourn into close session >> amount that the property owner would be
paying. So there is no uh diminition in what the uh property owner is actually paying whether it be through a pilot or through a tax abatement in year one. And that was worked out with your tax assessor Danny Cassiss. So then you may say, well, why do they why have they
asked for a pilot? And the reason is to be competitive in the warehousing space and to give parcipany the best opportunity to attract highquality tenants at these state-of-the-art warehouses that are being constructed.
Um that is really the reason the leases here are all triple net meaning that the tenants pay the lease payments. Um and one of the concerns of lees is that uh assessors will come out raise uh taxes
in a way that is uh creates a uncertainty uh and then there's tax appeals and the highquality tenants tend to stay away from those buildings. And so what we're trying to do is to say, hey, Parcipony can help build an industry of first class uh warehousing
here in Paripony if you want it. And frankly, you're well situated to do that given your uh location and given the um condition of some of the obsolete building stock that you have and to take advantage of that in a way that is not
corporate welfare, in a way that is not uh causing any diminition in the amount of money that the uh property owner is paying. In fact, it's more. and you're getting a percentage of annual gross revenue which means as the leases go up
your payments to you go up uh and there is no uh risk of a tax appeal because a tax appeal would not be uh permitted under the law in the case of a pilot. So this is not a case of corporate welfare. This is not a case where the property owner is seeking to pay yet less in year
one. It is a situation in which the property owner is saying, "We want to be competitive to be able to attract the highest quality tenants." And candidly, that's going to work well for Parcipany, too, because the higher the rents, the better quality tenants that they
receive, the more income, the more funds will come from Paripony. And this is how you recreate your town to become a strong base for economic development with the highest quality tenants in the region. and you're competing with other municipalities and candidly you're also
competing with eastern Pennsylvania uh for these types of tenants. So this is a a broader economic development question that does not involve corporate welfare uh does not involve you know subsidy from the parcipany taxpayers but does I think uh make parcipany a much more
business competitive town. That's all I want to say. Thank you. >> Thank you. Jack Ray of 15 Brooklyn Drive. I'm a member of the Paripity Board of Education. Until the end of the year, my comments are my own in my capacity as a
private citizen and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Paripity Board of Education. Recently, I was listening to a Victor Davis Hansen podcast a couple of weeks ago. He was rightly speaking of the way Tucker Carlson hurt his credibility on his podcast by not aggressively questioning anti-semite
Nick Fuentes about his views on Israel and other topics. For all his shortcomings, and there are many, as a popular podcaster, Fuentes is a master of rhetoric. He could keep a million loyal listeners entertained for hours. I mention this because Johnino is no
Fuentes, but he is a master of rhetoric. to interview him requires intense preparation. If a host on a podcast is not ready to ask tough questions and tough follow-ups, especially on such a contentious issue as pilots, then the podcast becomes nothing more than an
infomercial. And the host has to be cautious or he will lose his credibility. I listened to the infomercial and there was a glaring omission of a fact on pilots that while the school district gets its 2% increase on the prior year tax base, it also gets
an abundance of new costs far in excess of 2%. Also correctly pointed out that the town could give the school district money above the 2% cap. Unfortunately, he left out that after 2 years that agreement is still not enforced between the town and
the board of education. This is the equivalent of taking a date to Il Capricio, having a great meal, expensive wine, and then stiffing the date with the check. In this case, the school district is getting stuck with the check at a time when along with most school districts in New Jersey, the Paripany
school district school district is facing profound budget issues that won't be fixed until there are major reforms to the state school funding formula. Those issues are entirely independent of pilots. New students require new teachers,
especially when classes are already filled to the maximum and all the pilots are on the west side of town. So, the most crowded schools will take in all the pilot kits. And to send those children across town will create additional traffic problems and additional transportation costs. The
victory on pilots began just over two years ago in this room. At that time, serious negotiations should have taken place with stakeholders, including the school district. That a proposal was submitted in May was too little too late. There are many flaws with the pilot legislation, and one of those
flaws is expecting politicians to do the right thing unless they have to. Pilots are a political third rail. Grab it and dot. to embrace pilots now will end the career of young politicians and pilots have enough resonance that people decades from now will look back on the
decisions made here with great derision. I ask that you leave this issue for the new administration. It's wrong to vote on an issue that is opposed by so many at a time when the town is preparing for the holidays and isn't paying attention. Between now and the 16th, I believe the
town will start paying attention. Thank you. >> [clears throat] >> My name is Hank Heler. I lived in Paripony for many years. I have a long history with most of you of speaking straight and just saying
what I what I think is important. So I'm going to do that tonight. Mayor Barbario, Councilman Karifi, Councilman Neglia, and Councilman Mucella. I'm leaving out Miss Miss Hernandez and
Councilwoman Hernandez for a for a specific reason. I'm begging you for the sake of whatever political future any of you might think that you want to pursue in this town and for the Parcipony Republican Party and the Mars County
Republican Party to please do not bite down on this hand grenade. Let it pass on to the new administration to have to deal with this poison pill. It's something that is so so much in the minds of so many of the
voters of this town that I think that it's a mistake for you to embrace this at this time and I think it would be better better handed on to the next administration to see how they might deal with something that is very very
challenging. Thank you very much. >> Anyone else? Okay. Seeing no one, I'd like to entertain a motion to close the public session. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Neglia, seconded [clears throat] by Mr. Mucella. Roll call. Miss Hernandez.
>> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> Mr. Mucella? >> Yes. >> Mr. Neglia? >> Yes. >> Mr. Karifi? >> Yes. >> Okay. At this time, Council President, did you want uh the members from the close session to make a quick presentation? >> Please. >> So, let's go ahead and do that. Uh, >> Mr. tomorrow
>> couple minutes just so we could uh kind of uh inform the public. >> Sure. Thank you. Uh good evening everyone. Uh for the members of the public that don't know who I am, I'm I'm the uh affordable housing attorney uh for the township as well as the
redevelopment council uh for the township. Uh contrary to many of the things that we're hearing here this evening, the catalyst behind the pilot uh for the uh park project is the fourth
round affordable housing mandate. Uh the court has imposed a deadline the end of this month, December 31st. We have to have the affordable housing plan finalized and accepted by the court by that date. In fact, we've been in litigation
uh with respect to our fourth round affordable housing plan for the last several months. Uh we have mediation scheduled tomorrow uh morning as a matter of fact. Now, the park project has been part of the
affordable housing plan for this township from the third round. It's not a new project that has been marked for residential development with affordable housing inclusion uh inclusionary development.
That particular property uh was incorporated into the plans both at the third round and the fourth round. And the fourth round plan uh was adopted back in June with a public hearing with public participation. And at that point
in time, the uh the validity and and and the intent behind selection of various sites was articulated to the public and and it was very clear that this particular site was desirable for a number of reasons. It out of all the potential sites out
there for uh residential development, this is among the least impactful. It's bordered by two highways. It's isolated. uh and as a consequence it was assigned a very significant portion of our affordable housing obligation. Now we
recently were informed by the developer attorney as to the necessity of a pilot in order for that project to proceed. Uh we have hired our own financial experts to vet the information that was provided. He vetted it strenuously. He's
independent. He works for the town. He confirmed that the rate of return for that particular project without the pilot made it not viable. In other words, this project as relayed by their the developer's attorney
isn't going to go forward without a pilot. Okay. So, what does that mean for the township? Unfortunately, due to the volume of affordable housing units that were assigned to that site, 194 units, there would have to be other sites that
were chosen to offsite those units to. And it's just not 194 affordable units. Those are inclusionary units, which means that you have to give an additional density in order to incentivize the development. So we would be forced to be looking at an 970 units
to be allocated in places that are less desirable than this place. That's the benefit of adopting an affordable housing plan is while you don't necessarily want the higher density, you could at least direct it to the places
that are the least impact impactful within the township. So, if we were not to issue the pilot and that development was not to go forward tomorrow, I'm going to be in a mediation
and I'm going to have to relay to the mediator that a big chunk of our affordable housing plan, which we felt was quite defendable, is now not there. It's absent. So, we're going to have to start to look at other sites.
And there were eight objectors that have articulated an objection to our plan. And the court is certainly going to make us look at them. Uh and we know that we would have to at least incorporate probably five of those
sites. That means that we would have to impact five other neighborhoods throughout the township. uh that means the the the community standards and the neighborhood feel are going to be impacted and if we still and
that's the best case scenario by the way that's if we end up fixing the plan within the next 3 weeks which would take a miracle quite frankly and if we don't fix the plan with this miracle that would really upset five other
neighborhoods throughout the township then we're going to face the end of the here and lose our immunity. And not only does that give fodder to the eight objectors, but it also opens the door to a whole host of other objectors. Now,
we're facing these deadlines at the end of the month, not because of anything that we did or didn't do. Every township is facing it, but we have come to the reality that the one site that was quite frankly best suited for the most affordable housing units is not
financially viable without a pilot. This leaves the governing body with admittedly a difficult decision. We either go forward with the pilot and preserve the affordable housing plan as it's been designed or what we have to do
is not go forward with the the pilot and open up the entire township to at least in the best case scenario five disruptions elsewhere in the town or possibly lose our immunity in total.
So that's what we're facing with respect to the park pilot. Uh we have vetted the finances. Contrary to what you've heard this evening, the finances of the pilot are actually beneficial to the township. And
at the next hearing, we'll be in a position with our financial expert to demonstrate to you and the public why that pilot is financially in our best interest. So, it's not only in our financial best interest, but it's also in our best interest with respect to our affordable
housing plan. It's kind of making lemonade out of lemons. It's a it's a winwin situation and it's certainly something as the attorney that's charged by you to uh protect you as best I can with an affordable housing plan, keep
your immunity and foster reasonable development. I have to emphasize development on this site is nothing new. This has been there and it's been zoned for since the third round. So that's nothing new. Um,
with respect to the other pilot that was raised, that pilot, while it has no impact on the affordable housing component, does create a very lucrative financial situation for the township and our
financial advisor is in a position to provide that evidence at the next hearing as well. So, it would be my suggestion and request that we introduce these ordinances this evening. And then at the next hearing,
which is subject to public comment, let's have our financial expert justify the finances as to why this isn't financially detrimental to the township and in fact why it is actually financially beneficial to the township. and let's have our affordable our our
planner explain what the reality is if the park pilot doesn't go forward and we're forced to reopen our affordable housing plan and he could explain the realities of that in greater detail than I just did. Uh so that's really all I
have this evening. I think that it would be best for us to rely on the testimony of our planner and our financial expert at the next meeting where they could be uh prepared with demonstrable evidence to explain to both you and the public
both of those components. >> And that's all I have to say this evening. Thank you. >> That's one if I you don't mind coun council president because um I've been through this scenario before when I was an administrator township administrator. So explain to the residents when you
lose your immunity what happens. You lose control of what? Your zoning. You lose control of everything and the courts decide where your where your projects go. >> Correct. >> So you know there's a lot at stake here. That that that's my point. I've been
through this scenario before. It wasn't pleasant. Once the courts take control, the township has no control whatsoever. Whatsoever. Correct. We have a majority of our our units being in this pocket, so to speak.
If that's open, they could be anywhere. And they're going, they're not going to care about how it impacts your neighborhood. Um, and it's not going to be just limited to the objectors. Other people could come out of the woodwork. It's going to be like the uh the Old West years ago when you had build a remedy lawsuits all over the place. And
and if I may add, I wasn't mayor at the time. So when you had the first round three of the park project, what what did the courts do? They had a water restriction order out on the township. Okay. So a scarce resource order. What
what does that mean? Basically, what it means is the courts are telling you all water goes to the affordable housings first. You can't build any projects, any positive projects in the township. So I know the public doesn't understand that or know that. And I just want them to be aware how what kind of control the
courts can have. These aren't our laws. This not the township's laws, not not all the other towns in the state of New Jersey. They got to deal with it. These are these are laws that were created by legislation that the townships have to meet the requirements we have to meet. Everybody can come up here and say, "Oh,
pilots's no go." Nobody wants to do a pilot, but at the same time, nobody wants to see us lose revenue. Okay? We have 21 vacant office spaces in this township. 21 vacant. So what do you think that's ideal for? Housing. So if
we don't take this plan and approve the plan that we have now, those other units I'm mean I' I've seen they got 40 acres in one area, 26 in another area, they're going to be zoned. They're going to be airmarked for the courts to put affordable housing on.
No, no question. >> I'm not the kind of person that wants to kick the can down the road. I don't have to give it to the next administration. You know, that's not how I work. I work that I have a job to do to December 31st and and I'm going to do that job. I
don't have a vote on this, but I understand what the repercussions can be. Not just to the township, to the residents, and I've said this before. I've said it many times. Let's exclude the pilots.
Market values in the township were down. Properties that were worth 20 million years ago, maybe 10 years ago, are worth maybe six million, maybe 10 million. So what happens? You're going to get tax appeals. When you get the tax appeals, that's where we lose our money. I know
the the the board of education member, you know, we come up here and he wants to say he's here as a citizen, but he's really pointing for the board of education, which is fine, and I have no issue with that whatsoever cuz I'm here to defend the township. Okay? So when they come up and say available up and
available down, well, let me tell you something. When available goes up, that's a good thing for the township. But when you have properties that are vacant, what do you think these developers are, these owners of these property are going to do? They're going to come, they're going to put a tax appeal to the township, and we're going
to pay for it wholeheartedly. I don't want to see that happen. If >> uh Mr. Simero, just a question. Um, in the event that we decline this pilot for park, I mean, isn't it also true that
all of the other sites would be able to intensify the amount of units allocated there, which essentially we could go from handling the fourth round on our terms to then opening up Pandora's box
for many more units than otherwise would be. That's a thousand% correct. Uh the park site is a site where we have zoned for luxury apartments. Uh and the
density isn't obscene. Uh if that comes off line, we could be looking at densities that are far beyond what we've imagined thus far in locations that we haven't even considered before. that
could be far more impa impactful to the schools, to the road networks, or just neighborhoods on a whole. So, you're always better off settling and directing where it is that you where you deem the
development to be the least impactful. And in fact, that's what the governing body charged our planner to do. And he did a very good job at it. And he's going to be discussing that at the next meeting. And it's no secret that you retained me to vigorously reduce
whatever obligations were going to be imposed upon the township and we've done our best to do so and we're continuing to do our best to do so. >> So so a question and then we'll I guess we can move on. It's not my meeting but um so just take that site for instance
those were commercial properties right? So when you convert a commercial property to a housing, don't you get credits? >> Yes, you do. >> So we would lose those credits. >> Correct. You you do get uh enhanced bonus credits on some of these conversions and uh if you end up losing
these and other sites are challenging us and they get included uh by way of settlement because we lost our immunity, we could be facing greater density because we're losing bonus credits. Okay, that's >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you.
>> Okay. Thank you. At this time, I'm going to ask the council to quickly review the consent agenda and the approval of minutes. And at this time, we're going to go ahead and move along to the presentations and reports. Uh, mayor, >> I have none, but um hope everybody had a great Thanksgiving and um see you for
next meeting. >> All right. Um, township council uh zoning. >> Yes, I have I have one uh thing. We had a uh a resignation on the uh board of adjustment >> zoning board of adjustment resation. >> Board of adjustment. Yes. So I'd like to nominate Sandra Neglia for to fill that
unexpired term. >> I need you're nominating uh Sandra Neglia to fill the unexpired term of David Williams. >> So you're making over a year ago and didn't get selected at the last time. So >> is can I get a second to that? >> Second. >> A second.
>> Okay. So I got a second. Um, at this time we're going to go ahead. Uh, a nomination was made by Council President Kari, seconded by, uh, Miss Hernandez. Um, roll call. Mr. Hernandez, >> yes. >> Mr. McGrath, >> yes. >> Mr. Misella,
>> yes. >> Mr. Neglia, >> Mr. Karifi, >> yes. >> Okay, the motion passes. Uh, nothing else from council council at this time? >> No. >> Okay, moving on to council attorney. >> No report this evening, council president. >> Thank you. Uh, this is administrator Cryan. Thank you, Council President and
Council. Just real quickly, uh there is um Santa's coming, the annual tree lighting uh this Friday. Please uh don't forget about that. 5:00 p.m. here at uh town hall. >> Um >> Saturday, >> Saturday, sorry. >> Oh, uh that's Saturday. Um
Friday is Winterfest Lake Haywa. That's it. >> So, we got those two things. So, please make sure you uh consider going to those two and seeing Santa at both. spending a lot of time here in Paripity with the next weekend. Um, and that's all I have. Thank you.
>> Okay. Thank you. I have no report and uh nothing for township office and committees I assume. Okay. Fantastic. Moving along to ordinances. First reading. Ordinance 92531 orders to the township council of the township precipitous authorizing the execution of financial agreement with Park Urban Renewal LLC granting a tax exemption
with respect to that certain property identified as block 392 lot 1.01 1.03 1.04 04 in accordance with the long-term tax exemption law NJSA4A 20-1 at SEC. Be it resolved that the above ordinance be introduced by title and pass on first reading at a meeting of the town of Council of Township
Pacific Troy Hills held on December 2nd, 1225 and that sort be further considered for second reading and final passage at a meeting to be held on December 16, 2025 at 7 p.m. prevailing time or soon thereafter as the matter may be reached at the m building in set township at which time all persons interested shall be given opportunity to be heard concerning said ordinance.
Be it further resolved that the clerk be authorized and directed to advertise settlers with the notice of introduction thereof being published in the official newspaper for according to law. May I please have a motion to approve the above resolution? >> Can I get a motion? >> I guess no motion. Okay, we're going to sit here and wait for a motion maybe or unless we're going to table this.
>> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah, >> we got a motion by >> Judy. >> Miss Hernandez. Can I get a second? >> I'll make a motion. >> Introducing it. >> Introducing it. >> Okay. Have a good night. So, uh, I got a motion from Mr. Hernandez and then a
second by, uh, Mr. uh, Mr. Karifi. Roll call. >> Well, can I can I make a few words? >> Uh, you right before I call you, you can go ahead. Actually, go ahead. >> Keep calling. >> You are I'm calling. >> Okay. So >> I am calling you >> because we're we're voting to introduce
this everybody this pilot for park and it's the fourth it is part of the fourth round of the housing plan that we as you've heard that we introduced in June that's supposed to be finalized December 31st.
Okay. We all here have been commiserating over this for the last few days because we kind of just heard about this pilot And it's it's a tough decision as you could see because if we do lose immunity
it it's it's not good for paripony. So it's a bipartisan headache for us here. Um do we want to lose immunity? We have this a big chunk of our affordable housing and you know Parcipony gets a
lot of obligation is in this one area and Bob and some of you here you know in our so part of town a lot of our affordable housing obligation is 2025 and it's not only Paripony we have Mars
Plains on our border and Denver and it's just a headache and if What's going to happen if we lose our immunity? We're going to get even more and it's just going to be they're going to run rampant over us. So, we're struggling. We've
looked at the details and as before when the pilots came to Piponyi, there wasn't a lot of negotiation. In the next few days, I know the mayor is meeting with the school board. I they've sat down the the gentleman here that does our
you know the finances has worked out some financial um numbers with for parcipany that will be a better deal over 30 years so they'll talk about it next time and we'll have the next two weeks to look at this right
so we're voting yes I'm voting yes to introduce this >> okay >> and we'll have we'll decide over the next two weeks but I do not want the towns to lose their immunity. It has to be done by [clears throat] December 31st. >> Okay. Uh >> short. >> Thank you, Mr. Nandez. Uh Mr. McGrath,
>> read a statement. >> No. >> Uh no. Okay. Uh Okay. So, now moving forward, each council member, if you guys want to make a statement, I go ahead and do that. There's no discussion because then it will no longer be a vote. Okay. Oh, okay. >> So, so no, no, you were fine, Mr. N. I'm just saying that I just don't want
anybody to discuss. So, uh Mr. Misella. >> Yeah. Um, I I wanted to give the public an explanation for why I'm voting to introduce this ordinance. Um, as many of you know that I've spent the past few years fighting against overdevelopment
in Paripony and that I've been one of the loudest voices against pilots for many reasons and I still maintain a philosophical opposition to them. um whether they were too dense, too big, or not in the best
long-term interests of our township. But ultimately, this choice comes down to us being able to do this project with controlled terms or saying no and many worse projects will inevitably be
scattered across the town beyond our control. So, I wanted to be completely honest with you tonight. You know, this is not a vote to introduce that that I take lightly. It's not one that I believe any of us even wanted to make.
But it's the responsibility that we all have to make. And um we can't push this off because we do have to comply with fulfilling our obligation um to the court by the end of the year for New Jersey's fourth round of affordable
housing laws. And as we know, they're not optional. So, um it's my hope that the the mayor in his negotiations with the board of education on on Thursday will come to a mutually beneficial agreement. Um and that this is the only
path forward that allows us to negotiate protections for the township. And without it, this project would be forced on us anyway all throughout the town with more units and far fewer conditions that we can control. So, um, that's why
I'm voting to introduce this. >> Okay. Uh, Mr. Neglia. >> Yes. I can, uh, only echo what my co-ouncil members said. I'd like to add though also um I would be I would hate to see all these other communities
have all these apartments pop up especially Route 53 Route 202 where it's already heavily dense dense density. Um putting them where they're exactly at park would be beneficial not only to you know the town but to everybody traffic
everything. So, I think that's a wise a wise move. Um, regarding the the money that tonight we we saw a little a little we had a little presentation and the amount of funding we're going to get from the pilots
is far more than we would get in conventional taxes over the 30-year term. And I've asked the Mr. Hanley to come up with a spreadsheet so we can get it out there to the public to see. I mean, anyone in their right mind would
look at this and say, "Oh my god, you're getting that much more in a pilot." And the reason you get more money in a pilot is because the town gets around 90 95% of the money from the pilot as opposed to only 23% of conventional taxes. So,
if you look at that number and you say, "Oh my god, that it's basically it's what I'm what I'm looking at is about double." And I've asked Mr. Hanley to please come up with a spreadsheet that's simple to read the pilot share conventional tax share what's the gain
or loss and anyone who sees that says will say it's definitely a profitable uh gain for the town and regarding the money for the funding for the board of education and as has been said many times the board of education can only
cap at 2% per year they get their money no matter what so For anyone to say that pilots bring more schoolage children to town and it's devastating their budget is false. As a prior board of education president for 6 years and a board of
education member for 15 years, I can I can account for that and I could say that um they do not lose any money. But what they are going to gain, I'm sure, is when the mayor negotiates with them and tries to help them, they're going to wind up getting funding above the cap, which they can utilize for many things.
they can utilize for improvements to their buildings, for their programs, for a lot of things that they couldn't. And I know they're having some financial issues now. And something like this would be so beneficial to them where they could wind up getting millions of
dollars above their 2% cap, which is so beneficial to the board of education in light of all the money and financial problems they're having. So, based on everything that was said by my co-consil members, what I just mentioned and uh looking forward to Mr. Hanley's
spreadsheet that he's going to provide the town that hopefully we can get on the town web page so web page so folks can see it. I think that uh I think this pilot is actually going to be very beneficial to the town and anyone who sees the numbers, I can't see how you can deny that. So, yes, I'm voting yes
on it as well. >> That's great. Um, [clears throat] does this affordable housing stink? We all hate it. We all think it's ridiculous, but unfortunately, it's being shoved down our throats. You know, it was brought up that by the end of the
year, we have to have our plan. Well, there's an actual mediation tomorrow. And if this plan, if this uh portion of our affordable housing commitment down at Park is eliminated, I'm telling you right now that there are a lot of areas
in town that are not going to be happy because we lose our immunity. They are going to put these apartments and this housing in these areas of town that people are going to be very upset. I'm telling you that right now. And we
are going to have no control over that whatsoever. We're going to lose our immunity. We will have no control over it whatsoever. So, it's been said that this park has been on the plan for a long time. I can tell you like Mr. Neglia has stated that, you know, it's
been brought up about percentages and money that you're going to get. There was negotiated. I mean, it it it's been an ongoing process and the monies that are going to be coming into the town are very substantial through this
program. I can tell you that and you're going to get a chance to see those numbers at the next meeting. Um, this is something that, you know, again, the reason that it has to be done by the end of the year, if we don't have our plan by this the 31st, we're losing our
immunity. And there's a hearing tomorrow for these eight other locations that they want to get in on it. And if we lose park, they're getting in and they're going to tell us where they want to put this stuff and the amount of
density and we're going to have no control over it whatsoever. This is a this is a in my opinion, this is a good deal. Uh hopefully we we get an agreement with the board of ed so we are able to help them out. Uh I've always said that that you know we should
be helping them out with uh with our money that we're getting in and uh and you know hopefully everybody benefits from this. So I'm voting yes. Okay. Uh moving along to ordinance 202532 ordinance to the township of the precip hills in the county of Morris
authorizing execution of financial agreement with BBX Precip Urban Renewal LLC granting a tax exemption with respect to that certain property identified as block 226 lots 3 and 3.02 02 in accordance with the long-term tax exemption law NJSA4A 20-1 ETSC be it resolved that the above
ordinance be introduced read by title and pass on first reading at a meeting attached council attach recipient hills held on December 2nd 2025 and that set ordinance be further considered for second reading and final passage at a meeting to be held on December 16th 2025 at 7 p.m. prevailing time or soon thereafter as the men may be reached at the municipal building in set township
at which time all persons interested shall be given the opportunity to be heard concerning set ordinance be further resolved that the clerk be authorized and directed to advertise set ordinance with the notice of introduction thereof being published in the official newspaper according to law motion to approve the above resolution >> motion >> second
>> motion made by Mr. Neglia seconded by Mr. Hernandez roll call Mr. Hernandez [clears throat] >> yes >> uh Mr. McGrath >> no >> Mr. Misella. >> No. And I'm voting against this pilot because the the project's already been built.
>> Okay. Um, Mr. Neglia, >> yes. >> And Mr. Karifi, >> yes. So, three S's versus two nos. A motion passes. Uh, moving on. >> I'm vot I'm voting yes. And I wanted to state on the record that it was it was explained by Mr. Samero
uh in addition to after other comments that were made by um the developers attorney that this is enhancing we're bringing in the same amount of money as we would through conventional taxes. This is helping us get high quality uh tenants. So there's no real difference
between conventional taxes and pilot with this particular pilot >> and we're going to get further >> okay >> information more information. So, uh, moving along to the next non-consent agenda R 20252026, renewal of licenses, amusement, games, entertainment, tax, limo, tourist,
accommodations. Motion to approve, please. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Hernandez. Seconded by Mr. Neglia. Roll call. >> Mr. Nandez. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> Mr. Mucella. >> Yes. >> Mr. Neglia. Yes. >> Mr. Kar.
>> Yes. >> Motion passes. Moving along to the payroll and bills list. CFO Angela Sabatini authorizes payment of the December 2nd 2025 regular miscellaneous payroll estimated at $1,650,000. And number two, payment of bills from voucher list of 12525 at 1,59,31516.
Can I get a motion to approve the above authorization? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Hernandez, seconded by Mr. Neglia. Roll call. >> Mr. Hernandez, Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> Mr. Misella, Mr. Neglia, Mr. Karifi. >> Yes. May I please have a motion to adjourn the meeting?
>> Make a motion. That's a quick one, huh? Motion made by Mr. Mucella, seconded by Mr. Hernandez. Roll call. Mr. Hernandez. Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> Mr. Mucella? Yes. >> Mr. Neglia? >> Mr. Karifi? >> Yes. Okay, we're adjourned. Have a great night, everybody. Thank you.