Council agenda Township for Pacific Troy Hills Township Council Agenda meeting on March 3rd, 2026. Introduction posting a notice adequate notice that this meeting has been provided in accordance with the requirements of the open public meetings law by filing the notice in the office of the township clerk and by posting the meeting notice on the bulletin board at the municipal building on December 4th, 2025 when remain posted since that day.
A legal notice appeared in the daily record in the Northstar ledger on December 17th, 2025. Can I please ask everyone to stand for the flag salute to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God,
indivisible, liberty and justice for all. >> Okay. Uh, roll call. Mr. Kari >> here. >> Mr. Kavanagh >> here. >> Mr. McGrath >> here, >> Miss Patel >> here, >> Miss Hernandez >> here.
>> Also in attendance are um Mayor Pokeet Desai, we got township attorney Joe DeMarco, business administrator Mark Seaman, municipal clerk Ken Madden, council president, we have a quorum. May we begin? >> Yes. >> Thank you.
Upcoming meetings, we have March 17th, 2026 at 7 p.m. which is the regular meeting. We have April 7th, 2026 at 7 p.m. which is the agenda meeting. Moving along to ordinances, second reading. Uh given that this is the first U meeting, we have a few ordinances for second
reading at this particular point in time. We're going to go ahead and move along. Ordinance 20267, an ordinance implementing the township fourth round housing plan element and fair share plan consistent with the terms of a mediation agreement reached between the township and the fair share housing center in accordance with the New Jersey Fair
Housing Act and relevant regulations and policies and to amend supplement and revise the code of the township of Paripony Chapter 430 article LX affordable housing to amend the following particulars of the chapter. The notice for ordinance 20267 was published in a daily record. The newspaper, the official newspaper of the
detach of Mississippi Troy Hills on February 25th, 2026 introduced at the February 17th, 2026 regular meeting. May I please have a motion to accept ordinance 2027 20267 which is heard in second and final reading. >> Motion second.
>> Motion made by Miss Patel, seconded by Miss Hernandez. Roll call. Mr. Karifi, >> yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh, >> yes. >> Mr. McGrath, >> no. Uh, Miss Patel, >> yes. >> And uh, Mr. Hernandez, >> yes.
>> Okay. 41. Motion passes. May I please have a motion to open up the public hearing? >> Motion second. >> Motion made by Mr. Hernandez. Seconded by Miss Patel. >> Roll call. Mr. Karifi. Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes.
>> Miss Patel. >> Yes. >> And Mr. Hernandez. Yes. Okay. The floor is open to the public on this ordinance only. Only on this ordinance. Evening. Uh, I just wanted to ask quickly. One second, Ken. I don't know what's going on with that mic.
>> Does this ordinance include information on the number of additional housing units and how we're going to go about meeting? >> Anybody? Hold on. Give me a second. >> Repeat the question. >> Does the Well, I'd like more information. I've not kept up with this. I'd like more information on how many
units we're going to have to build and how we're going to go about doing that. And so, I'm asking is that information in this ordinance or is there some other source of information that we need? >> I guess you can see the amendment to uh the fair share housing.
>> Yeah. So there there is a it should be online our um agreement with fair share that the court entered into the order that requires uh Paripony to build 496 affordable units in total for the third
and fourth rounds. >> Wow. That's certainly much less than uh we heard from the last mayor. So >> well that's that's the affordable units, right? So understand the math, right? I'm just going to be honest with you, right? That's the 20% set aside number. So the other 80% is the market rate,
right? So >> that's the that's the full number, but that's >> what you do. >> Yeah. Okay. All right. >> So that's available on the on the town. >> So yeah, the the court judgment. Yes. The the actual plan. Yes. So what this
does is it adopts that um overall component of the fourth round, the requirements of it and and and the terms of that fourth round. Um, and then the next ordinances deal with the zoning to put that in effect for various sites.
>> Is that this ordinance? >> Nope. Those are the next. >> What's going to be next? >> Well, the next one meaning like 2 minutes from now. >> Yeah. >> All right. There's there's a bunch on tonight that have different densities, different locations throughout town. >> Okay. And if these are passed tonight,
they'll be posted on the website. >> Yeah, they're available. Yes. >> Okay. Thank you very much. >> Not a problem, sir. >> Anyone else? Seeing no one, can I get a motion to close the public hearing? >> Motion. >> Motion made by Mr. Hernandez, seconded by Miss Patel.
>> Whereas the above ordinance was read in title on second reading and hearing held thereon, now therefore be resolved that ordinance be passed on final reading and and that notice of final passage of set ordinance be published in a newspaper according to law. Motion to approve the resolution above ordinance 22607. May I please have a motion? >> Motion.
>> Second. Motion made by Mr. Hernandez, seconded by Mr. Karifi. Roll call. Um, >> Mr. Ki. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> So, Colin, I'd like to read a statement just as we kind of move into this that I want to just get on the record.
>> Sure. >> Um, there are seven sites that are going to be voted on tonight, including in this redevelopment plan. And though I do believe these sites need to have an alternative use, I do not believe that they should be granted future pilots.
And I have a lot of concerns with how this has worked in the past. and how this looks to be working here in the future. So, I just want to give a couple reasons so that everybody there listening and people that come back and listen to this can understand. When a site is granted a pilot agreement, the
new buildings will not be built taxes, which means we're removing them from our ratables. They'll be exempt from paying conventional taxes like the rest of us have to pay. What that means is is that the tax rate for all of the people that
have to pay traditional taxes will go up. Just like if you go and search it over the last 10 years, Paripany has had an increase in its tax rate because as everybody knows, these commercial sites are going away and as we're adding pilots, they're continuing to remove
them. Now, when I looked at these sites, I requested information because I felt that they were put on too quickly. I asked the clerk to provide me information about where these locations are and how much are they worth from a tax perspective, which was provided to
me uh by our our tax assessor. And when you look at it, the total for these units is right around $100 million. So $100 million has the potential to be removed out of our ratables. And that's critical when you start to consider who
has to make up the difference because if these go to become pilots, again, they're removed from our ratables. What could we get if we build with traditional buildings and not pilots? So, I'm I'm guess cautioning and asking
my fellow council members that as these come forward, if there's a potential for a pilot, I suggest you vote no because these are going to hurt our town more than they're going to help. My answer is no. Clay,
>> thank you. Uh, Mr. McGrath, Miss Patel, >> no, >> Mr. Demarco, I just have a a question here. So this before we go through, can we just take the vote and then and then we'll go ahead. Uh so we have a a no from Mr. McGrath. Uh Miss Patel.
>> Okay. So I would like to also just say something very quick. >> Can you speak to the mic? >> Yes. Um so I would like to say something very quickly about these. I want to clarify that we are not voting on pilots tonight. This is reszoning of seven locations that were designated under the last administration when three of the
council people up here were sitting on the deis. So, three folks were in on this decision to designate these locations. They were on the decks. This is not a pilot vote. We are reszoning locations in town that were designated by the last administration. That is all.
I'm voting yes, >> Mr. Hernandez. >> And I was one of those three people. We're voting on the fair share housing element. There were amendments made and these are the zoning for those
properties. There's no pilots we're speaking about. I'm voting yes. >> Okay. Uh before I announce that Well, it's it's a 4 to1 vote, but Mr. Creep, you had something to say, sir. >> I just have a scenario to ask Mr. DeMarco. So, right now, this this these votes have nothing to do with a pilot
right now, unless a developer comes in the future and says, "Hey, I'm requesting a pilot." So, in the future, let's just say every developer came to us and said, "What happened to us last time?" Well, I can't build it unless I get a pilot. And we say, "No, no, no,
no, no." And every location that we have on the map, we said, "You can build it. We're we're designating it like we are now for those apartments or whatever, but we're not giving you a pilot." >> Mhm. >> And every single location is a no for a
pilot. And every developer says, "Well, then I'm not going to build it." We we've done our We've fulfilled our obligation. We've designated that area, right? I mean, you can't force us to give a pilot. >> I'm waiting for you to be, >> right? We you they can't force us to give them a pilot. We say no to every
location. >> We've done our due diligence. We've done our job. We've listed our locations that we've designated to meet our affordable housing. If all these developers say, "Well, now I can't build it because I without a pilot," then we say, "All right, we'll bring in the next developer
then that can." How do how does that work? >> So that's um just want to make sure everyone can hear me. So it's unknown, uncharted territory in some respects. Okay. >> Right. And the reason why I say that is >> what you're adopting tonight was mandated by the state. Right.
>> Right. No one likes it. >> Right. >> I can use some choice words myself about what I think about it. Right. But that's what the state has made us adopt. Um enforced by a judge >> uh with a consent order and an order entered into by the town. That
requirement was that you needed to put the zoning in place to hit that number by March 15th. So this scene is playing out in many municipalities and many town halls and many council people, right? We're not unique to it.
>> That is our obligation, right? is to do our best efforts to honor the mandate to build a certain number of affordable housing. To your question is if it's not successful, what happens then? Right? If these sites are not successful or we
don't put the tools in place, whether that's additional zoning, whether that's a pilot, whether that's a redevelopment agreement, whether that's improvements to roads or whatever, right? Every town has a different thing. You run the risk and it's a risk, right? or or the possibility that those developers get to
go back in court and say, "Hey, this is a viable site, but the town is not partaking or helping us or you're going to have to find other sites or other things." Right. So, it doesn't just saying no to the pilot doesn't remove
the obligation. I just want to make sure everybody understands. >> I know that, but I'm saying like, "Okay, so you said our other location." So, we have these seven. So, let's say if they say, "Well, we're not building it without a pilot." Correct. And then the state would say, "Okay, that developer's out. You need to find another location."
And we say, "Okay, we have location." So F right now, correct? >> We tell F, "We're not giving you a pilot either." So >> at a certain point in time, >> right, >> the state has set up there are three parties to this, right? Is the municipality and then there is the fair
share, which is the state organization, and then there is the builders, right? Developers, builders. It is what's referred to as a builder's remedy, right? So that builder can go into court and say this town is not complying with
the overall fourth round. So I'm going to file what's called the builder's remedy and I'm going to have a judge do the zoning and take over the development. Whether or not that requires financial assistance or things of that nature is uncharted territory in some respects.
>> I mean I get all the other things. I'm just saying is if you say no to every pilot in the future and they try to turn around. >> If you say no to every pilot, you you you you could be perceived by a court at a later date as taking steps to not implement
the plan. >> Even though we've already implemented a number of pilots, >> I'm just saying I don't know. I don't >> like you said, it's uncharted. >> It's uncharted. I don't know what a court's determination would be. >> I just want the public to realize this as well. So you can't you can't the
reason why the fourth round changed right in the third round you did not have to adopt the zoning at the beginning you just had to identify sites and what happened was people identified non-billable sites and they never built so the court now has said hey we're not
going to let you do that we'll put you on a very fast time frame we're going to make you put the zoning in in place so whether we like it or not once these ordinances become perfected, right? They get published and they're done. Those
sites are permitted to build those densities that this ordinance does. Whether they do it, how they do it, what financial concerns or whatever, they have the right to build it. Right? So, we no longer just say, "Hey, we think that Shopright might be a good
conversion. We now have said this is the site and we agree to 70 units, 80 units, 100 units, whatever it is." Now, if they can figure it out financially without having to come back to the town, they're going to build it, right? They're they're just going to build it and there's no way you can stop it. I understand what you're saying regarding
the pilots. Do I anticipate that we will get pilot applications after you adopt these? Absolutely. Yeah. I I mean, Bob Danzia knows you're going to get a pilot application, right? What you do with it is totally up to you, right? what how
you judge that, how you evaluate it, whether you think it's good, it's bad, right? I can only guide you to where the road is now and where the road is now. >> These need to be adopted by it March 15, right? That's my recommendation. Take it
for whatever, but that's what it is. But will people come and seek tax advantages? Sure. Right. A homeowner would seek a tax advantage if it was available to them. Right? I I expect that it's incumbent upon me and us to evaluate those things and say yes, say
no, say not now, say come back later, shops close. I don't care what the response is. Um but we just need to go through a process. This is just the first step in a process. But I didn't want anyone to think that like I'm going to tell you, oh no, it's never coming. And then they come and go, well, I
didn't have one. No, we we know they're going to come. That's everybody knows that. What you do with it is what you do with it. So, can I say something to be clear when we're voting on this? We're not voting for pilots. >> Correct. >> Okay. Cuz that's how it sounds when
we're talking about this. And and um we're voting on zoning. We're not voting for pilots, nor are we voting on making it easier. >> Correct. You're just changing the zoning, the underlying zoning. So, you know, if it was a one family zone, now
it's a two family. >> So that we can meet our obligations. So that what I'm required to within 48 hours file these ordinances with the court so they they can see that they were done prior to the March 15th deadline. Okay.
>> And as I was talking to one of the residents there was a conversation we were part of Paripany uh did challenge it did challenge it um was part of the Montair lawsuit that was filed in federal district court. The judge ruled
against us. It was uh taken to the third court of third circuit court of appeals, federal court. That judge ruled against us. It was actually taken to the Supreme Court. First time I was ever part of a case in the Supreme Court. So I'll just might be the only good thing about this whole
thing. Um the uh petition was given to Justice Alo who is from New Jersey, fairly conservative. If you're going to get a homec court advantage ref call, that's where it would have came and it didn't come. Right. So, I mean, that's a
person who lives in New Jersey and knows what we're all experiencing and he didn't throw us a life preserver. Um, so we've exhausted all the federal appeals. The case is still active, but the goal was to try to slow the process
up. we were unsuccessful and hence that's why we're here with like a week left in the clock to try to approve these things to just satisfy the court order and be compliant. >> Okay, moving along. >> So, well, hold on, Clay, because I do want to respond. I want to be very, very
clear here. I understand what the council vice president and council president said. This is not a vote for a pilot, but this is exactly how park went down. Everything is rushed. know there's no pilot and then magically pilots come in and we're forced to make bad decisions which I voted against and this
feels like it's being forced through again and that has me very concerned and as Mr. DeMarco just said they're all going to come and ask for one. >> So, or more than likely, maybe not. But that has me very concerned because I want to go back to what I said. There's
about 2 billion that we pull in from commercial industrial out of the 7 billion in taxes. If we take now, was that 18 locations off the tax roles, every resident has to eat it. Then you add on PAS, you add on all the piping,
you add on all the other things that we're going to layer on. We're going to have like a six or 7% tax rate and then they're going to do a reassess or something else because we are going to burden all of the town taxpayer with this. That is why I'm being so adamant.
That is why I'm being just honest with everybody up here. Think about what you're voting for. Think about the impact to the taxpayer in our town, please. Okay. Uh, moving along. Ordinance 20268, an ordinance to amend chapter 430 entitled zoning of the revised general
ordinances of the Tancha precipity Troy Hills to establish a new AHD MU2 affordable housing mixeduse zone block 411 lot 31.1. The notice for ordinance 2608 was published in a daily record, the official newspaper of the township of Detroit Troy Hills on February 23rd, 2026 and introduced at the February 17,
2026 regular meeting. Now I please have a motion to accept ordinance 52608 which is heard in the second and final reading. >> Motion second. >> Motion made by Miss Patel, seconded by Mr. Hernandez. Roll call. Mr. Karifi.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> No. >> Uh, Miss Patel. >> Yes. >> And uh, Mr. Hernandez? >> Yes. >> Okay. Motion passes. A public hearing. Can I please have a motion open up the public hearing for orders 20268? >> Motion.
>> Second. Motion made by Mr. Karifi, seconded by Miss Patel. Roll call. Mr. Karifi, >> yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh, >> yes. >> Mr. McGrath, >> yes. >> Uh, Miss Patel, >> yes. >> And Mr. Hernandez. Floor is open to the public on this ordinance only. Coming
up, Mr. Pazano. 20% 41 Robin Hood Road, Mars Plains, New Jersey. question. Can we get a spreadsheet of every combined project of the 2500 units that I'm estimating to be built? How many bedrooms, what their
status is? So, we can actually run our cost per person versus taxes versus uh what it costs each person in the town. So, like a P&L. >> So, Mr. President, I go ahead. >> I I I believe Mr. Cassiss has some type of a spreadsheet similar to what you're
asking for. or I don't know if it's the exact one, but something very similar. >> It might not have the actual bedroom count because these are just bulk standards, but it'll have a unit count. >> Yeah, it's a rough question. >> No, no, it's units, but you said
bedrooms. So, I couldn't tell you. >> Correct. But my point is they can give you the units. They might not be able to give you >> the builder should be able to publish what he's putting in >> that. All this does >> I know this is your selling correct >> understand that I'm asking for projected
cost so we can look at it >> with Mr. McGrath because he's a tax on our finances we can turn around and actually take our projected cost of all these units of what it's going to cost >> corre I I understand that but what I'm trying to tell you is >> that the exactly what you're saying
>> we have something similar Mr. you. Okay. So, what I'm trying >> You have the you have the you don't have the bedroom. >> Sir, we're not going to do a back and forth. You let them finish. >> I don't have the bedroom count. >> Okay. >> I don't know if they they are designed
or if these projects have been designed or or >> uh from my understanding of it like what's going on gateways they are designed. >> Okay. >> They are two or three bedrooms. >> I I understand that. >> Okay. What? >> Well, well, whatever whatever has been
submitted to the town. I'm just want to be honest that if you didn't get something, no one thought that we were hiding it. So, we will give you everything, but I didn't want you to be surprised if you didn't have a bedroom count. >> No, I understand. >> Okay. If you come in, if you come in and
see me, Mr. Pazano, uh, I can have you as Yeah. Yeah. We'll talk and I'll have you meet with, uh, Dan and we'll see what we can get for you. >> Sounds good. You got it, Mr. Schwarz. Uh, for this ordinance only. Correct. Okay. No, absolutely not. >> Mr. Schwaz, I'm sorry I didn't have the
thing today. >> Okay. Uh, as someone who worked in Jersey City and who saw what happened in Jersey City with the runaway pilots there, not having a bedroom count is
not acceptable simply because if you're going to have units that are going to be a studio or a one bed bedroom, you're not going to have children. Once you get into a two or a three bedroomedroom unit, you're going to have children
which are going to add to the school roles which are going to add to taxes. >> Correct. So why can't we get or is there a way to estimate
how many studios and onebedrooms there there will be which will not add students compared to the two and three bedrooms which are going to swamp our present
student count. So just I'm waiting for you to be done before I answer. >> I'm waiting for you to be done before I answer. >> That's all you got, Mr. Flores? >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. >> So on the affordable units, yes. On the market rate units, no. What I mean by
that is the state also mandates of affordable units that a minimum of the affordable units need to be three bedrooms. A maximum of the affordable units can be studios and onebedrooms.
and what's left is a two-bedroom. So, taking that, if you said there were 500 affordable units, you would say uh minimum of them, 20% will be three bedrooms. Um that's 100 if I did my math correct.
Uh maximum will be one bedrooms, that's another 100, and that would leave you 300 twobedrooms. That's on the affordable. What I can't tell you, which was the gentleman's different question, was on the taxes, whether or not the
market rates will be onebedroom studios or two bedrooms. I couldn't tell you what the other 80% makeup is. So, that's the challenge. >> That's correct. Each affordable application, each site, we know what
they are. Each project, we know what they are. How many studios? How many? One, three, two. Their their set amount. They come in with that number. So, we know what the affordable is.
>> Mr. Barry, did you want to say something? Tim Bario's 24 Farmstead Drive. Um, so I am a member of the Paripany Board of Education. Uh, but I am uh currently speaking on behalf of myself and I'm not speaking on behalf of the district or
the board of education. Um yeah, this seems like deja vu all over again. Um so anybody sitting up here who thinks that after you vote yes on all these
resonings um that a good percentage of them are going to become pilots. Um, I've got a bridge goes over a bed of water between New Jersey and New York to sell you because they're going to become pilots.
>> Well, >> because I I'm not done yet. >> I'm not regaining my time, please. >> I'm asking if this has to do with this ordinance. >> Yes, it has to do with this ordinance and the rest of them. >> Okay. >> But I'll speak to this ordinance. >> You're speaking to this ordinance. That's fine. Go ahead, Mr. Barry.
>> So, it's the same point. The point is is that this one, whether it's specifically this one or the one next, the one prior, is going to become a pilot. Okay? And those tax dollars are going to get sucked out at the township. And as I'm
standing here as a member of the board of education, I'm fighting for the damn board of education. Okay? So, just like it was in 2023 when these nice people up here in 2023 said, "Oh, no, no, no, no. we're just doing
this and it all turned out there were pilots. So, I'm not sure, you know, um, you know, because the next thing is going to be is well, we got to do a pilot or or it's going to be builder's remedy.
And as I provided Mr. Mucella back when he was on the council in December that that's a bogus red herring uh argument because there was only one builder's remedy uh resolution since 2016
out of over 500 municipalities in Jersey. So all I'm trying to say is is that from one member of the public to other members of the public, if you're sitting there saying this, we're only doing this
because then you're fooling yourself because the next thing is going to be a pilot and you're going to have to say yes because you're going to be afraid of the boogeyman which is builder's remedy or one of the other solutions. Okay? But in the meantime, it'll still
be the same story. the people who don't have pilots like residents are going to pay. The school district is going to suffer because these threebedroom affordables bring three bedrooms worth of children that
will have to go to our schools. And just like we're going to be saying on the March 12th is that the school budget is going to be something and we don't get to have a pilot at the school budget. Okay? And we can't claim builder's remedy and all these miracles
that happened. You know, I'm begging this council. We heard so many fairy tales and nonsense in the last four years. I am asking you to consider this before you vote yes. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Baris. Okay. Seeing no one else, can I please have a motion to
close the public hearing for ordinance uh 20268? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Karifi, seconded by Miss Patel. Roll call. Mr. Karifi. >> Yes. Um, Mr. Kavanagh, >> yes. >> Mr. McGrath, >> yes. >> Miss Patel, >> yes.
>> And, um, Mr. Hernandez, >> yes. Mo, >> uh, floor is closed. Whereas, the board is read and title on second reading and a hearing held thereon. Now therefore, be it resolved that ordinance be passed on final reading and that notice of final passage of set orders be published in a newspaper according to law. Now, please
have a motion to approve the resolution for ordinance 22608. >> Motion. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Patel. Seconded by Mr. Karifi. Roll call. Um, Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes. >> Mr. Karifi. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath.
>> No. >> Miss Patel. >> Yes. >> And Mr. Hernandez. >> Yes. >> Order one. Motion passes. Uh, ordinance 20269, ordinance to amend chapter 430 entitled zoning of the revised general orders to the township of Pacific Troy Hills to amend section 430-4 districts established section 430-5 terms define
section 430-35 attachment to and establish a new AHD-8 affordable housing district zone block 175 lot 52. The notice for ordinance 22609 was published in a daily record the official newspaper of the attach hills on February 23rd 2026 and introduced at the February 17th
2026 regular meeting. Motion to accept ordinance 22609 which is heard in the second and final reading. May I please have a motion? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Hernandez, seconded by Mr. Kipi. Roll call. Mr. Karipi. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath.
>> No. >> Uh, Miss McCall? >> Yes. >> And Mr. Hernandez? >> Yes. >> Okay. May I please have a motion to open up the public hearing for ordinance 20269? >> Motion. >> Motion made by M. Mattel, seconded by Mr. Hernandez. Roll call. Mr. Karifi. Yes,
>> Mr. Kavanaaugh. >> Yes, >> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes, >> Miss McCall. >> Yes, >> Mr. Hernandez. >> Yes. >> Door is open to the public on this ordinance only. >> Seeing no one, can I have a motion to close, please? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Hernandez, seconded by Miss Patel. Roll call. Mr. Karifi.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> Mr. Patel. >> Yes. >> Mr. Hernandez. >> Yes. >> Whereas the above ordinance was read in title on second reading and hearing held thereon. Now therefore be resolved that ordinance be passed on final reading and that notice of final passage of seven be published in a newspaper according to law. Motion to approve the resolution
above ordinance is 22609. >> A motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Hernandez, seconded by Miss Patel. Roll call. Mr. Karipi. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes. >> Uh Mr. McGrath. >> No. >> Uh Miss Patel.
>> Yes. >> And Mr. Hernandez? >> Yes. >> 4 to1. Motion passes. >> Moving along. Ordinance 202610, an ordinance to amend chapter 430 entitled zoning of the revised general ordinances of the township of ciphony Troy Hills to establish a new AHD affordable housing
district zone block 420 lot 2. The notice for ordinance 202610 was published in a daily record the official newspaper of the township for Troy Hills on February 2020 20 February 23rd 2026 and introduced at the February 17 2026 regular meeting. Motion to accept ordinance 202610 which is heard in his
second and final reading. >> Motion motion >> second. Motion made by Mr. Karifi, seconded by Miss Hernandez. Roll call. >> Mr. Karifi, >> yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh, >> yes. >> Mr. McGrath, >> no. >> Miss Patel, >> yes. >> Mr. Hernandez,
>> yes. >> Okay. Uh, motion to open up the public hearing for ordinance 202610. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Karifi, seconded by Miss Hernandez. >> Roll call. Mr. Karifi. Yes. Mr. Kavanaaugh. Mr. Mr. McGrath. >> Yes.
>> Miss Patel. >> Yes. >> Mr. Hernandez. >> Yes. Floor is open to the public on this ordinance only. Seeing no one, can I please have a motion to close the public hearing? >> Motion second. >> Motion made by Mr. Hernandez, seconded by Miss Patel. Roll call. Mr. Kifi. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes.
>> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> Miss Patel. >> Yes. >> Mr. Hernandez. >> Yes. >> Whereas the above ordinance was read and titled on second reading and hearing held thereon. Now therefore be it resolved that ordinance be passed on final reading and that notice the final passage of senators be published in newspaper according to law. May I please have a motion to approve the resolution above ordinance by 2610. >> Motion.
>> Second. Motion made by Mr. Hernandez, seconded by Mr. Karifi. Roll call. >> Mr. Karifi, >> yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh, >> yes. >> Mr. McGrath, >> no. >> Uh, Miss Pat Mattel, >> no. >> And, um, Miss Hernandez,
>> yes. >> Okay. For uh, wait, it's 3 to two. Motion passes. Ordinance 22611, an ordinance to amend chapter 430 entitles zoning of the revised general ordinances of the township of precipit AHD10 affordable affordable housing
district zone block 136 lot 43.6. The notice for 202611 was published in a daily record the official newspaper of the township precipitate hills on February 23rd 2026 and introduced at the February 17th 2026 regular meeting. May I please have a motion to accept ordinance number 202611 to be heard in
the second and final reading. Motion. >> Can I get a second? Second. >> Motion made by Miss Patel, seconded by Mr. Karifi. Roll call. Mr. Karifi, >> yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh, >> yes. >> Mr. McGrath, >> no. >> Miss Patel, >> yes.
>> And Miss Hernandez, >> yes. >> May I please have a motion open up the public hearing for ordinance 202611? >> Motion. >> Second. Motion made by Miss Patel, seconded by Miss Hernandez.
Mr. Karifi, >> yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh, >> yes. >> Mr. McGraft, >> yes. >> Miss Patel, >> yes. >> Mr. Hernandez, >> yes. >> The floor is open to the public on this ordinance only. Okay, seeing no one, can I have a motion to close? >> Motion. >> Motion made by Mr. Karifi. And who
seconded that? Mr. Hernandez. Roll call. Mr. Karifi. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. No. >> Uh, Miss Patel, >> yes. >> And Miss Hernandez, >> yes. >> Whereas the above ordinance was read in title on second reading and a hearing held thereon, now therefore be resolved
that surnness be passed on final reading and that notice of final passage of sterness be published in a newspaper according to law. Can I please have a motion to approve the resolution above ordinance 20261? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Miss Patel.
>> Seconded by Mr. Hernandez. >> Roll call. Mr. Karifi. Yes. Mr. Kavanagh. Yes, >> Mr. McGrath. >> No, >> Miss Patel. >> Yes. >> And Mr. Hernandez? >> Yes. >> Motion passes. >> Okay. You want to speak the code again?
>> Well, you can introduce. So, uh, ordinance 202612, an ordinance to amend chapter 430 entitled zoning of the revised general ordinances of the town of Pacific Troy Hills to establish a new overlay 8A affordable housing district zone block 105 lot 2.02. The
notice for uh, ordinance 2026 122 was published in a daily record, the official by the township of Pacific Troy Hills on February 23rd, 2026 and introduced at the February 17th, 226 regular meeting. May I please have a motion to accept? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Garipi seconded by
Miss Patel. >> So just so each council member has in their packet an a rat sheet. So this ordinance is as all the other ones were presented in front of the planning board. Uh there was a typo not in the ordinance but how we listed it. the it's
block 202 lot 105 but the ordinance and the publication was correct um as to where that is and there were just some minor changes to uh some setbacks it does not change uh any of the substance
uh the density or the uh really controlling parts of it I just wanted to call that out for the record uh there's also um an addition with regards to um one of the other ordinances also I'm just going into roll call. Mr.
Karifi, >> yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh, >> yes. >> Mr. McGrath, >> no. >> Miss Patel, >> yes. >> And Miss Hernandez. Mr. McGrath, what was your vote? >> No. >> Okay. Just want to be clear. Thank you. >> Yes, sir. >> Uh public uh hearing. Can I please have
a motion to open up the public hearing for 202612? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Karifi, seconded by Mr. Hernandez. Roll call. Mr. Karifi. Yes. Mr. Kavanaaugh. Mr. McGrath. Yes. >> Uh, Miss Patel. >> Yes. >> And Miss Hernandez? >> Yes.
>> Okay. Uh, anyone to speak on this ordinance only? Seeing no one, can I get a motion to close the public hearing? >> Motion. Second. >> Motion made by um motion made by Miss Hernandez. Miss Patel, seconded by Miss Hernandez.
Roll call. Miss Mr. Kipi. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. is to close the public session. Right cl >> that is correct Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> Um Miss Patel. >> Yes. >> And Mr. Hernandez. Yes. Whereas the above ordinance was read in title and uh
title on second reading and hearing held thereon. Now therefore be it resolved that ordinance be passed on final reading and that notice of final page of be published in a newspaper according to law. Motion to approve the resolution above ordinance 2026 12. >> Make a motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by M. Hernandez. Seconded by
Miss Patel. >> Roll call. Mr. Karifi. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanaaugh. Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> No. >> Miss Patel. >> Yes. >> And Miss Hernandez. >> Yes. >> Motion passes. >> Um, ordinance 202613, an ordinance to
amend chapter 430 entitled zoning of the revis ordinance of the town of Pacific Troy Hills to establish a new AHD12 affordable housing district zone blocks 725 lots 1 and 3. The notice for 2020 2026 13 was published in a daily record of the official script of the township of Troy Hills on February 23rd 2026
introduced at the February 1726 regular meeting. Can I please have a motion to accept ordinance 2613 which is heard in the second and final reading. >> Motion >> second. >> Motion made by Mr. Kipi seconded by Miss Hernandez. >> Roll call. Mr. Kavanagh >> yes. >> Mr. Kari
>> yes. >> Mr. McGrath >> no. >> Miss Pat Mattel. >> Yes. >> Miss Hernandez. Yes. >> Okay. May I please have a motion to open up the public hearing for ordinance 202613? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Karifi, seconded by
Mr. uh Mr. Hernandez. Roll call. Mr. Karifi. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> M. Patel. >> Yes. >> Mr. Hernandez. >> Yes. >> The floor is open to the public. Seeing no one, may I please have a motion to close the public hearing? >> Motion.
>> Second. >> Motion made by Miss Patel, seconded by Mr. Karifi. Roll call. Mr. Karifi. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanaaugh. Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> Miss Patel. >> Yes. >> Mr. Hernandez. >> Yes. >> Whereas the above ordinance was read and titled the second reading and hearing held there on now therefore be resolved that this ordinance be passed on final
reading and that notice of final passage of seven be published in newspaper according to law. Motion to approve the resolution above ordinance 22613. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Miss Mattel, seconded by Mr. Karifi. Roll call. Mr. Karifi. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes.
>> Mr. McGrath. >> No. >> M. Patel. >> Yes. >> And Mr. Hernandez, >> yes. >> Motion passes 4 to1. Ordinance 202614. An ordinance to amend chapter 430 entitled zoning of the revised general ordinance to the township of precip hills to establish a new overlaya affordable housing district zone block
105 lot 2.02. Uh the notice for ordinance 20 what's 2016 was pub for 20264 was published in the daily record the official newspaper of the township Detroit Hills on February 23rd 2026. introduced at the February 17, 2026 regular meeting. Can I
please have a motion to accept ordinance 202614? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Hernandez, second by Mr. Karifi. >> Go ahead, Mr. This one also had some uh minor changes with regards to uh setbacks. Uh it did not change any other
of the substantial provisions of the ordinance. Um so it was recommended as consistent uh or not not inconsistent by the planning board. I just wanted to call that out. Um, each council member was given a list with those changes.
>> I'm going into roll call. Mr. Karifying, >> yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh, >> yes. >> Mr. McGrath, >> no. >> Miss Patel, >> yes. >> And Mr. Hernandez, >> yes. >> Okay. May I please have a motion to open up the public hearing for 2614? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Hernandez, seconded
by Miss Patel. Roll call. Mr. Karifi. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. Miss Patel. Yes. Mr. Hernandez. Yes. >> Floor is open to the public. Seeing no one, can I get a motion to close the public hearing? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Karifi. Seconded by
Miss Hernandez. Roll call. >> Mr. Karifi. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> Miss Patel. >> Yes. >> Mr. Hernandez. >> Yes. >> Whereas above ordinance is writer on second reading and a hearing held thereon. Now therefore be resolved that this ordinance be passed on final reading and the notice of final passage of center be published in newspaper
according to law. May I please have a motion to approve the resolution for the above ordinance of 202614? >> Motion second. >> Motion made by Miss Patel, seconded by Miss Hernandez. Roll call. Mr. Karifi, >> yes. >> Mr. Kavanaaugh, >> yes. >> Mr. McGrath, >> no.
>> Miss Pat Mattel, >> yes. >> Mr. Hernandez, >> yes. >> Okay. Motion passes 4 to1. Moving along to the public session. May I please have a motion? May I please have a motion to open up the public session? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Karifi seconded by
Miss Hernandez. Roll call. Mr. Karifi. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> Miss Patel. >> Yes. >> Mr. Hernandez. >> Yes. >> Okay. The public session is open to the public. You can speak on any matter. You'd have 5 minutes to speak. Please state your name before speaking.
>> Okay. Oh, Bob, you coming up? Mr. Suarez, you coming up? Yeah, sometimes. >> Oh, okay. I was worried about it. Okay. Uh my excuse me my name is Bob Vanedzi and I live in Paripony.
It's just a matter of time before the remaining apartment projects on Paripiny's affordable housing plan formally request pilots from the township. Before that happens, I would like to review Paripin's experience with
the residential pilots that have been issued to date and provide a a uh cost estimate for the residential pilots that will soon be coming before the council. I'll leave the discussion of industrial pilots for some other time.
My research is based on official statistics published by Paripony in a document titled pilot approved sites. Each of you has a copy of this document and I encourage you to fact check me and perform your own pilot analysis based on
the information contained in this document. According to my calculations, here is what the residential pilots issued so far are costing the township. One, developers receive a discount of at
least 50% from their adorum taxes. As a result, Paripony will forfeit over $6 million in tax revenues each year for the next 30 years. Two, the $6 million pilot payments that
Parcipony does receive are insufficient to cover the $10 million in municipal and educational costs that the township must provide to the new residents of these developments. Making up that difference requires an increase
in the tax rate for regular taxpayers. The net effect is that your taxes increase every time a pilot involving school children is issued. Three pilot projects are not included in
Paripany's tax base. If these properties had been taxed conventionally, Paripany's tax ratables would have increased by $381 million. For perspective, the averagable
increase uh over the last 10 years annually is just $20 million each year. Such a once in a generation increase in ratables is important to regular taxpayers because as ratables go up,
taxes go down. In addition, when there's any kind of shortfall in the annual budget, only taxpayers in the tax base must pay more to cover the shortfall. Pilot developments are exempt.
As I stated earlier, I expect the remaining projects in Precip's affordable housing plan to apply for pilots, assuming they would get the same generous terms as our existing pilots. I estimate the following costs to Paripony
if the 1,335 apartments in these developments are given pilots. First, Paripony would receive about $3.5 million in pilot payments versus more
than $7 million in advorum tax revenues. Second, pilot payments of 3 uh three 3 and a2 million would be insufficient to cover municipal expenses plus educational costs, which when combined
would total about $6.4 million. The annual operating budget deficit of 2.9 million would have to be made up by increasing the tax rate on the regular taxpayer. And third, there would be another loss of $232
million in tax ratables. Added to the 381 million loss ratables from the pilots already approved, and you're looking at a total of loss ratables to Paripony, that would be over a half a billion dollars. Billion with a B.
Paripany has already given away far too much money in tax revenues and tax ratables. Please do not continue repeating the same mistakes. Pipanese taxpayers cannot afford it. Thank you. >> Thank you, Bob. >> Thank you, Bob.
>> Mr. Mr. Vanettia is a tough act to follow. I'll give it my best shot. Uh thanks Mr. McGrath for your uh comments earlier. We were assured last summer that there would not be any more pilots and we know how that worked out
in December. Uh despite all of our concerns, uh two additional pilots were ran through, including one warehouse that was well under construction. Of course, developers will ask for pilots. The town has rolled over in 2023
and put ourselves in a terrible negotiating stance and that is not going to subside over time. All right. So, uh again, we should not be pursuing any more pilots. I know we they were not
voted on tonight, but they are going to come up again. Uh after my comments at the last town council meeting, the mayor addressed one of my points and said he had spoken with school superintendent Karen Chase and Board of Education President Allison Kogan that he would include them in
future negotiations. I appreciate that. But since taking office, the mayor and the town council had the ability to perform a partial reset with the school district by reversing the two pilots passed in December. It would also been a chance to correct some of the damage done to the school district over the
last two years. And while we're on the topic, I've previously requested the issuance of a report, formal or informal, highlighting what the additional pilot money would be spent on. Given that spending has a higher priority for the town than the school district, it's worth knowing what that
spending is. And with the recent financial revelations on compensation, that report should take on greater urgency. While money is funible, the school district should not face extreme budget cuts when big raises are paid in town. I don't begrudge anyone a pay
raise and our township employees provide a valuable public service to citizens of Paranany, especially in the last month with all the snow. However, I do criticize the prior administration and citing pilots as a way to get around the 2% revenue cap for the school district
while not coming to any kind of an agreement and keeping all the pilot funds collected to date. This issue will not go away and at some point silence becomes complicity. Thank you. Okay, Mr. Schwarz, we know who you are.
>> We know where you are. >> We know who you are. >> Good evening. I was going to speak about some other issues, but I'm going to skip the first one and jump to the
subject of the Lake Hayawata Library. Um, the Lake Hayawa Library, as I understand it now, is going to be re reh rehabed. Um, nothing will make the present
building something the city can be proud of. So, let's not try and renovate a structure that is without any redeeming architectural qualities. It will always be lacking in more ways than I can speak of in the time I have. If the 3 million
in state funds are available along with the 3 million in bonded money the city has approved, let us bond for the additional funds to tear it down and erect a truly functional space for the residents. Rather than the cavelike
atmosphere the present building greets us with. If Mayor Barbario had not been so preoccupied with pleasing pilot developers and paid more attention to the library, the amount of additional funds needed to build a new structure
would not have been as much as it could be now. Former mayor Barbario had his his priorities which were focused on pilots. By the way, why did it take the former mayor three and a half years into his last term to visit the Lake Hayawata
Library? Trust me, I was involved with total building renovations during my years of employment. Those projects rarely turn out well. They are a great opportunity for a sharp low bidder to turn the job into a change order
festival, which could cost nearly as much, if not more, as a new building. With that said, um, as far as the pilots go, there's nothing that says we have to give a 30-year pilot. Correct.
>> Correct. >> I believe the minimum is 10. Okay. If from what I understand that h there has been talk of trying to pass a bill several times in Trenton. I guess the
builder's lobby is bigger than we think to make the pilot do donation from the builders to cover at least the schools and the
you utilities that the city would have to pro provide. In that way, we would at least be getting the money we we need for the basic services. Is there verbiage that can be put into a
pilot that says if such a bill was passed that the pilot would have to be in lock step with the new bill? Is that all you have?
>> Pardon me. >> Is that all you have? Your question. >> Um, >> well, there's lots I have, but I can't say. >> Um, yeah, it's like like I said, I I I saw
it in in Jersey City. It was just it was a I can't say it was a clown show. I mean, the the homeowners that had been there for years and decades were getting
hammered, and the people living in in the pilot buildings were just floating along, happy as as can be because they were getting a a break. And the loyal citizens that have
lived in this town for decades are going to get a bad deal. That's all I have. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Suarez. Anyone else? Miss Saladino, >> please sign in before you speak. >> Okay.
>> Thank you. Okay. So, I wasn't planning on speaking tonight, which is what usually happens. Um, because I'm not necessarily researching and then coming here to present information, which I I love your
sweater. I'm sorry I had to say that. >> I know. >> Okay. Sorry. Um anyway, um my observation is more of what I wanted to speak about. So I sat there
and typed up some notes really quickly. Um can everyone hear me? Okay. I typed up some notes really quickly. So I'm going to try not to sound like I'm just reading. Um and before I do start though, I want to thank Mr. Suarez
because every time he gets up to speak, and I'm not saying that I don't appreciate what every citizen brings to these meetings, but every time he gets up to speak, I have one of these moments. Um, and that's because I I hear
I hear like hope and I hear things that Anyway, I love it. So, I want to make two points. One point is that I believe that every one of us in this room including all of you sitting here including Mr. McGrath um we can all
agree on these two things. I am hoping one would be no unreasonable taxation and no bearing the burden of additional taxes so that billionaire developers can get their tax advantages. We've all had
enough of this. Everywhere they turn, what do they get? rebates, incentives, tax breaks. They're they're spending money paying off our government officials. I'm not talking about all of you. Um, but they're paying off our government officials so that they can
get all of these breaks. And then we carry the burden. We break our backs every day for our families and our communities. We help each other when someone's in need. The government doesn't help us. We help each other.
When someone in the community is hurting or in need, guess who is digging into their very shallow, maximally taxed pockets? We are. We help each other. We pay the most taxes, but yet instead of
getting the services that help our neighbors, we help our neighbors as well. And I'm seeing this I'm seeing this a lot lately, and I don't mind doing it. I'll keep doing it. But I want the government to figure out a way to help us too because that's what we pay
taxes for. So, you know, we're super tired of this. I think we can all agree on it. We don't want to bear the burden. The billionaires should be paying more. Another thing that I think we can all agree on is the importance of the children. The children in children all
over the world, but specifically I'm talking about our community. They're the future of this community. their safety, their education, and their socialization are so important to the future of Paripony.
So, I think everyone in this room wants the school to thrive. Like, we want the schools to have money. We want the kids to have the best teachers and the best programs, the best curriculum. So, we agree on all of those things. And then we come here and I know like Bob I
appreciate, you know, does a lot of research. He brings numbers. I've heard these numbers spoken about many times about possibly lost revenue. I would love it if there could be some research and some report and just some
explanation on whether or not that's true because when we sit here and we hear that there are hundreds of millions of dollars of lost revenue and then we're bearing the burden for it, you know, it it hurts and we don't know who to look to and how to think about it. So
maybe we could just get some clear reporting on that. Okay. Um, and now that we've talked about everything we agree on, my observation, and this is not original, a friend of mine used the term today and I feel like it applies.
We are experiencing a crisis of imagination. Um, we basically what's happening is we're dealing with difficult issues and we're all clashing on >> 30 seconds. I understand that the intent to vote yes to reszone is because we're
simply voting on reszoning. I might go over by like 10 seconds because I was chatty. Um we don't want to we don't want to be in contempt or we don't want to have issues with the state. Um however, and Mr. McGrath, I I need to
say this. Stomping our feet and voting no seems to be more performative so that people say yes, yes, yes, he's got our best interest at heart. But I would like to hear the alternative ideas. What should happen instead? It ends up
looking like positioning and then of course people are pumped up as I said, but you know, let's let's hear some alternatives. Let's not just vote no when we're being told by the town attorney that it might be putting us in a position to have to deal with
litigation. So, let's start brainstorming solutions. Mr. Suarez, let's start brainstorming solutions. I'd love to see Mr. Suarez get involved because it sounds like he has experience. >> So, you know, again,
>> I just say we we can't just go back and forth about pilots. I know I'm over talking and tax consequences. We need to get creative. Brainstorm creative ideas. And the last thing, abolish ICE. >> And I'm done. >> All right, Lisa. Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Sure. So, if I can make a quick comment because I do want to make sure I address uh Mrs. Saladino's point. Um my goal is not to be disruptive to redevelopment. And as I stated, I understand 100% the
need for redevelopment. I understand the need for affordable housing. As a father of four kids, is if I want my kids to live in Paripity, they can't afford a house in Paripity today. They won't be able to afford one. But my point of this is when we approved this plan,
my expectation was not to have any pilots. What happened at the end of last year, and I was the only person to vote against them, was we got two major pilots, and I believe one saved $117 million for the developer, and that was
stated by our town. That was the savings, $17 million. If $17 million is saved by the developer, that's paid for by the resident. I can't stress that enough. What I am concerned with is as we move forward and rush things forward,
I feel like there's going to be a lot more pilots requested of us. We already have 11. And as we've heard the the uh lawyer, Mr. Marco say, they are all going to ask for one. And my fear is just like it was a 4 to1 vote last time
and I lost, this is going to be a 4 to1 vote again. Maybe not for all, but for some. And each time we approve one, you, me, Mr. Suarez, Mr. Venezia will all bear the brunt of that savings that goes to the developer. If they want to build
it without a pilot, absolutely. But we cannot put anything in place or we are not putting anything in place to block pilots from any of these. So until that happens, I'm not interested in it. If there's an opportunity to block pilots for all of these, I'm in. I will
approve all of them. But I don't hear that happening. And what I see is this is going to be a number of pilots unknown to me. But if I don't stress that we cannot approve pilots because of the loss of revenue, then people will wake up one day and they're going to
have $20,000 tax bills at their house cuz they were reassessed and then everybody's going to have a really hard time living here. >> Thank you, Mr. McGrath. Uh, anyone else like to speak? Come on up, Mr. Barios. >> You go ahead. You're fine. You've
already signed in. Just state your name. >> Tim Barios, 24 Farmstead Drive. Um, so I just want to say something uh that was just mentioned by the last speaker. Um, I think uh we've had about 3 years
of discussing alternatives and other options. Uh, uh, there's a handful of us, maybe less maybe about half a dozen. Uh it's been a long three years. Uh we've been criticized, badmouththed in the press, badmouththed online. Uh I've had the
cops sent to my house by one of our lovely councilmen. So uh yeah, we've been uh we've been speaking. Welcome to the party. Um, I'd like to, um, you know, we've had a lot of things
in the press about some of the shenanigans that were going on, especially over the last, uh, 60 days of the administration, the last administration, and, you know, probably for longer than that for all we know. Um, and these
things are very disturbing, especially as a taxpayer. um being one of the many I think it's like 14 elected officials in town. Uh I know when I first was elected to the board of ed and we came to the board and
we saw that uh you know things were not looking right. Um about four or five of us demanded an forensic audit. We did it. We performed it. We found what the problems were and we fixed it. And 14
years later, uh, after eight awards, I said we did a pretty good job. I mean, you can always do better, but you know, we, uh, saw the problem and we fixed it. I am asking this council, um, to use your power
and work with the administration and do a forensic audit because if half of what we are reading is true, it's very disturbing. And I know as a business owner, um, if I
did that as a business owner, uh, I'd probably go into jail. So, I think as a taxpayer, and since the council represents us, I think it's a good idea to start doing some sort of auditing to see what is and what what is not happening and what has
happened. You know, we have paragraphs that were approved. uh in in a resolution and it disappeared in the final contract. I mean all these things are just I'm I'm stunned. Um so I
I am asking for a forensic audit and if nothing else uh I like still want to know where that $17,500 went cuz I still like to know what that audit happened. What happened with that audit? What were the results? What happened to $17,500
that was approved by this council? Not this council. I'm sorry, the council prior. Uh last thing I want to leave on a positive note cuz I'm just one heck of a positive guy. Um so we had uh thanks to the mayor and
working with me and other folks on the paripany project. Uh we had the uh snow team put together and I want to give a shout out to not only the mayor um but his team, Miss Stacy who coordinated
things with me tremendously and helped me throughout this process. anybody in the council who was able to kick in. And we I think even though it was a long couple of days, um I think the last time
I saw on the list there were over 70 seniors who requested help. I don't believe we got to all of them, but we did get to a large number of them. And um you know, that is what I think we should be about. I'm not worried about
ICE. I'm worried about Paripany and I'm worried about our people in Paripany and if that little bit of shoveling could have made us better then I'm all for it. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else?
>> Okay, seeing no one, I'd like to entertain a motion to close the public hearing. >> Motion. Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Karifi. >> Seconded by Miss Patel. Roll call. Mr. Karifi. Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> M. Patel.
>> Yes. >> And Mr. Hernandez. >> Yes. >> Okay. Moving along to the public hearing for Craftsman Farms with regards to the White Cottage Phase 2 Rehabilitation Project. This is a public hearing for the pre-qualification regulations for biders for the Craftsman Farms White
Cottage Phase 2 Rehabilitation Project. I'd like to entertain a motion to open up the public hearing. Motion >> second. >> Motion made by Mr. Hernandez, seconded by Mr. Karifi. Roll call. Mr. Karifi? >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanaaugh? >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath? >> Yes.
>> Miss Patel? >> Yes. >> Mr. Hernandez? >> Yes. >> Public hearing is open. Uh, would anyone from Crafts and Farms like to say anything or we're Okay. Looks like we're good. Seeing no one else. Fantastic. May I have a motion to entertain? Yes. Thank you. Yes.
>> Motion and second. Okay. Fantastic. Motion by Mr. Karifi. Seconded by Miss Patel. >> Roll call. Mr. Karipi. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> M. Mattel. >> Yes. >> And uh Mr. Hernandez. >> Yes. >> Okay. Public hearing closed. I guess
congratulations are in order. Uh if you could just go over the consent agenda, approval of minutes real quick cuz that will be um done at the next meeting. Moving along to presentations and reports. Uh, mayor. Yes. Yes, I do have a report.
>> Good evening everyone. My focus since last meeting has been budget. It continues. Mark will give a better de a better update than I can. I've been meeting people, calling them back, making myself accessible to just about anybody who walks into the office.
uh permitting I'm actually there sometimes because I'm out a lot. I recently had a chance to visit the Iraq and neck first aid squad uh for their oath of officers and the Rainbow Lakes annual department dinner. Furthermore, I went to the PAL wrestling pasta dinner
uh to you know for the tricky tricky tray to help them out. Uh I want to thank the crew in the kitchen for making some of the best pasta I ever had. So, thank you folks. uh two ribbon cutings uh which DM will cover. You got that one right? >> Okay. All right. I'll skip that. Went to
the little Vikings cheerleading competition. Uh most of the things were on the weekends and evenings. So I was not taking up any daytime, you know, work responsibilities from the town. But the little white and cheerle competition, I had absolute fun over there. Uh I want to echo what Tim Bario
said with the mayor slow team. I want to thank all volunteers, young and old, uh, including, uh, the board of ed. Uh, I asked them to promote this, uh, in their two high schools, uh, for the next snowstorm. We got lucky that we didn't have to do it, uh, the third snowstorm
uh, in the first two months of my term. I do want to thank Stacy Ward's entire family. uh they actually uh shoveled so many driveways uh and they didn't feel any pain at all the next day which was very surprising. >> Uh and there was a young man named
Kenley who volunteered without having a shovel. Uh kudos to him where he called us up on that uh Monday and saying listen I want to help but I don't have a shovel. So we got him a shovel. The other thing uh I visited the Khawata
library quite a few times with my BA. We are looking at all options of what we can do. I have not forgotten is being discussed frequently. We are also working with the state to see how they can help uh give us some money. Comment on the pilots.
As much as everybody has passion, remember there are some new faces on the dis. As I mentioned uh before that the board of ed will have a seat at the table when there is something to discuss. Uh we are meeting with them this week uh to see what kind of
framework we can set up. The council will be involved. Something I said again last week on everything that comes through. Nothing will be given to them at the last minute. And uh I'll be honest with you, nothing is being pushed through today. we are just complying, you know, with something uh that's just
old business that needs to be cleaned up. Finally, I'm working on something called community engagement where we discuss and deliberate issues important to you, to me, and for Paripony. Details will be shared once this plan is finalized.
Thank you. >> Now, uh mayor, do you have the proclamations you want to read or >> Yes. >> Okay. want to take pictures. >> So before I read this four proclamations to some wonderful people who would deserve it, uh I have a good friend of
mine who would like to say a few words. Good evening. I'm Ela. My name is Elaine Dolski and uh I have the pleasure tonight to honor and recognize Vicky Lambert Rice as one of the four
recipients of the Sakalowski Senior Citizen of the Year. Um hold on Vicki. So welld deserved. You keep us informed at our Lake Hayawa Seniors Club meetings. Uh you plan trips, holiday
parties, relevant speakers, and we appreciate all that you do. So on behalf of the members of the Lake Kaiwa Club, she's just coming back recovering from the
>> Yeah, there you go. from the members. Not everyone could be here this evening. Of course, the weather didn't uh cooperate, but I know that they would have been. And we'll we'll celebrate again tomorrow at our at our meeting. So, Vicki, thank you so much for all
that you do. Welld deserved. Okay. Township of Pipony Troy Hills proclamation. Whereas the Township of PC Troy Hills is proud to recognize outstanding senior resident whose dedication Let me get the right one here.
>> Oh, right here. outstanding senior resident whose dedication, compassion and volunteerism strength strengthens our community and whereas Vicky E. Rice has devoted more than 55 years of volunteer service to organizations that enrich the lives of
Paripony residents demonstrating unwavering commitment to community engagement and leadership. And whereas as a member of the Lake Hayawata senior club for 11 years and serving as president since 2020, Vicki revitalized the organization following the
challenges of COVID 19 pandemic, reorganizing the club, reconnecting members and expanding programming to keep seniors active, informed and socially engaged. And whereas through organizing trips, lunchons, speakers,
entertainment, fundraising efforts, and community outreach, she has worked tirelessly to enhance well-being of local seniors while keeping participation affordable and accessible. And whereas as an active member of the
American Legion Auxiliary Post 249 since 2018 and the Paripony Elks since 2018, Vicki has supported fundraising initiatives benefiting veterans, local families, scholarships, and community programs, including efforts to assist
homeless veterans and providing seeing eye dogs to those in need. And whereas as president of the board of directors of Blue Eagle's Alumni Drum and Bugle Corp and a dedicated member of over 28 years, Vicki has helped preserve and
promote community traditions through performances at parades, civic events, veteran ceremony, and charitable functions, including participation in Memorial Day and Veterans Day obser observances. And whereas her leadership, generosity
of spirit and passion for service exemplify the very best of participants community values and have made a meaningful and lasting impact on countless residents. Now therefore, I mayor Pulkit Desai on behalf of the township council and the residents of
Pipony Troy Hills do hereby proudly recognize and congratulate Vicki E. rice as the recipient of the 2025 Sakalavski Senior Citizen of the Year Award and extend our deepest gratitude for extraordinary dedication, leadership,
and service to our community. Dated the 3rd of March, 2026. Thank you, Vicki. You like my sock? >> The next person is Evelyn Dcastro. Proud shot. Township of Piponyi Troy Hills
proclamation. Whereas the township of PC Troy Hills is proud to recognize outstanding senior resident whose dedication, compassion, and volunteerism strengthens our community. And whereas Evelyn Dcast Castro has demonstrated a lifetime of service and generosity
through her long-standing involvement with the Parcipony Women's Club and numerous charitable initiatives benefiting local citizens. And whereas for many years, Evelyn has supported the JBWS, the Morris County Organization, assisting victims of
domestic violence, contributed to environmental initiatives, including recycling and tree planting efforts, and consistently participate in project designed to uplift and assist vulnerable members of our community. And whereas at
nearly 100 years young, Evelyn recently participated in the Women's Club annual cookie and candy project benefiting residents of local nursing homes and the firemen's home, exemplifying her continued dedication despite limited mobility. And whereas through her quiet
leadership, compassion, and commitment to give back, she has inspired others by demonstrating the importance of service, kindness, and making every individual feel valued and appreciated. And whereas her many years of volunteerism reflect
the true spirit of community engagement and having and leaving a meaningful and lasting impact on Paripony Troy Hills. Now therefore, I Pulkit Desai on behalf of the township council and the resident of Paripony Troy Hills do
hereby proudly recognize and congratulate Evelyn Diccastro as a nominee for the 2025 Solowski Senior Citizen of the Year Award and extend our sincere gratitude for her extraordinary dedication and lifetime of service to
our community on the 3rd day of March 2026. Thank you very much. Congratulations. Where is June? Where is June Golden? There she is. Come on up. You're on. The proclamation is right.
You should be you welld deserved. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. >> Stand right next to me. >> Okay. The township of PC Troy Hills proclamation. Whereas the township of PCI Troy Hills is proud to recognize outstanding senior resident whose
dedication, compassion, and volunteerism strengthens our community. And whereas June Golden, founder of the bright and beautiful Therapy Dogs, Inc. has dedicated 37 years to bringing comfort, companionship, and hope to individuals
throughout Piponyany and beyond. Whereas through her leadership and volunteer service, therapy dog teams have uplifted patients in hospital and nursing homes, supported individuals in shelters and psychiatric facilities, and encourage
literacy and confidence in local schools and libraries. And whereas her unwavering compassion and commitment exemplify the very spirit of volunteerism and community service, leaving a lasting and meaningful impact on countless lives. Now therefore, I,
Mayor Pulkit Desai, on behalf of the township council and the residents of Piponyi Troy Hills, do hereby proudly recognize and congratulate June Golden as a recipient of the 2025 Solowski Senior Citizen of the Year Award and
extend our deepest gratitude for her extraordinary contributions, dedication, and service to our community. On the 3rd of March, 2026, June I know you're honored, but I'm honored. >> Thank you every
Judy Chase. She's such a little person. >> Right. >> Township PC Troy Hills proclamation. Whereas the township of Paripony Troy Hills is proud to recognize outstanding senior resident whose dedication, compassion, and volunteerism strengthens
our community. And whereas Judy Chase has devoted more than 50 years of service to the Paripony Child Daycare Center. first as an employee and continuing as a dedicated board member, ensuring that generations of children
are provided with a safe, nurturing, and enriching environment in which to learn and grow. And whereas through her steadfast leadership and commitment, she has maintained high standards of care and stability for families in our community, addressing the vital need for
accessible and dependable early childhood education. And whereas as an active member of Kavanis over the 31 years, Judy has generously shared her time and talents in support of service initiatives that benefit children and
families throughout family throughout PCany and beyond. And whereas through her involvement with the New York Blood Center for many years, she has supported efforts to meet critical health health care needs and contribute to saving lives within our region. And whereas her
decades of dedication reflect a deep commitment to community service, compassion for others, and a lasting impact on countless families and residents. Now therefore, I, Mayor Pulkit Desai, as member of the township council and the resident of Paripony
Troy Hills, do hereby proudly recognize and congratulate Jodyie Chase as a nominee for 2025 Solowski Senior Citizen of the Year Award and extend our sincere appreciation for her extraordinary service, compassion, and commitment to
our community. Dated on the 3rd of March, 2026. Go Judah. Absolutely. >> So, can we get all the honories and the council for a picture? Thank you. All
right. >> Why not? Yeah. >> That's good. That was actually very good. Tell you one thing. Thank god chocolate strawberries. We're done. I guess what I guess won't
be another hour. >> 7 minutes. There you go. Two more. Two more. Two more. Thank you for everything. Right after >> done. Done. >> Say it once.
>> What sense of As soon as I stand in it, it goes. >> Yeah, apparently. Okay. Uh we're moving along to the township council. Um before we go into the reports, I understand that we have uh two candidates for uh board of
adjustment. I'd like to accept nominations, please. I I want to nominate Mahesh Puadapati for board of adjustment. >> So we have a nomination for Mr. Mahesh Pajapati for a nomination for board of adjustment. Do I have a second on that? >> Second. >> Okay. Mr. Karifi seconding the
nomination. Going to roll call. Mr. Karifi. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> M uh Patel. >> Yes. >> And Miss Hernandez. >> Oh, I'm going to say no cuz I had a nomination. >> Yes. So Mr. Chernandez is saying no only
for the reason being that she had a nomination. So it doesn't matter. So that's why she's saying no, not because she doesn't want the candidate. >> Um, moving along. Oh, well, any reports from town council? >> No, I have a report. >> Okay. The economic development. >> Uh, no, didn't report.
>> Okay. >> So, um, as everyone may know, I have office hours on Fridays. I actually had a resident stop by my, um, office hours or during at town hall during my office hours. um and she wanted me to spread a message about a 15-year-old boy in this
area. Um so I'm just going to quickly tell you the story and just ask for your help. There is a um sheet in the mayor's office giving you more information about this situation and how you can help. Um so Wube is from Morris County. He recently shared a video about his son
Max. You might have seen it on the news or on social media. Uh Max is a dedicated student and a talented pianist with big dreams for the future. Um he was recent recently diagnosed with a serious blood disorder and now his future depends on finding a matching
blood stem cell donor. And for the Urubi family, they're um against the clock essentially. So Max is of mixed ancestry, which makes finding a match even more difficult. Um, he's of Latino ancestry, which makes the match even
more difficult than being of mixed because Latino patients have less than a 50% chance of finding a fully matched donor. And for those of mixed ancestry, like Max, that search becomes even more challenging. So, if you are between the
ages of 18 and 35, you can register online at nmdp.org org to receive a sample uh cheek swab kit at home and return it to be added to the registry to see if you're a match to Max or someone else in this area or somewhere across the country who needs
life-saving stem cell donation. Um so I'm personally asking all eligible residents on behalf of a resident who reached out to me to sign up on this website, get yourself swabbed, return it, please join the registry like I will
be doing after this meeting. Thank you. Any other reports from council? >> No, thank you. >> No. Okay. Uh, Mr. DeMarco, our township attorney. >> No, thank you. >> Okay. Um, Mr. Mark Seaman, the business administrator.
>> Thank you. Uh, just a quick update. Um, the mayor had mentioned earlier that, you know, the budget has been a major priority for us. Uh, we've been working very hard to put that together. We're finalizing our department meetings this week. uh and we'll be meeting with the finance committee uh early next week. Uh
we'll be preparing budget books for the council as well so that they are um received ahead of an introduction. So the um schedule for introduction and for the budget for their um for its through adoption would be March 17th we would be
introducing our budget. On April 7th we would be holding department hearings and then on April 21st we'll be presenting the finalized budget for adoption. I just want to take a quick opportunity to thank all the departments for the hard work that they did putting this together in such short notice and especially to
our CFO who has also been working tirelessly to get this all together and thank you again to our team who has been again working very hard to accommodate the schedules and getting these departments in as soon as possible so that we can put together a budget for this action. >> Thank you very much.
>> Thank you. Uh Mr. Seaman, uh I don't have a report. Moving along to township offices and committees. I have a report again. Sorry guys. Um, okay. So, the mayor, mayor Poke Desai, and the economic development advisory committee would like to inform the public about an
upcoming about two upcoming ribbon cutings. The first being Brucato's foot and ankle surgery, 181 uh, New Road will be welcomed to the community on Saturday, March 21st at 12:00 p.m. noon. Uh G King Fried Chicken at 176 Paripony
Road will be welcomed to the community on Sunday, March. Frank, you wrote 289 28th or 29th? 28th at 11:30 a.m. Residents, business owners, and members of the community are invited to attend
these ceremonies to help welcome these new businesses to PCNA. The economic development team continues its commitment to supporting local entrepreneurs and strengthening the township's business community. The Precipany Troy Hills Economic Development Committee in partnership with the Pipony Area Chamber of Commerce
announces the Pipony Veterans Banner Program is now accepting submissions to honor our community's veterans, active duty reserves, and National Guard members. This program recognizes the brave men and women who have served our country with a beautiful full color 18
by36 patriotic banner proudly displayed along North Beverwick Road. Each banner features the honores photo, a bas and basic military information serving as a lasting tribute and a public thank you from our community. Deadline to have your flag on display in time for the
Memorial Day uh celebrations is March 15th. For submissions and details and additional information, please visit www.parcipanyveteranserans.com. This initiative underscores the economic development committee's ongoing commitment to strengthening a vibrant and thriving local business community
and ensuring Paripany remains a destination of choice for businesses and entrepreneurs. The economic development committee's next meeting will be held on Thursday, March 12th at 6:30 p.m. in the third floor conference room at 90 East Holly Road. The public is welcome to attend. Please RSVP to Chairman Frank
Cahill at 973-559600. Thank you. This is also what the banners uh the information. >> Any other reports from the committees? Okay. Moving along to the non-consent agenda. R 202661 authorizing the award of a contract for
professional services to Joseph DeMarco Esquire of the firm of Skinsky Hollandback LLC as Township Attorney for the year of 2026. Can I get a motion to approve the resolution above? >> I have a question. Didn't we already do this at the first meeting of the year? >> So, yes and no. So you you if you're
like me, I can stay, but you only really gave me a uh three month because there was an you didn't need you didn't do an RFP. Sorry, you didn't do an RFP. >> Um so you did issue one. I did respond to it. Um and it's the recommendation of
the purchasing agent that it be awarded. So it was on a um it was through the non-fair not open process as opposed to the fair and open process. >> I just If you don't like me, we did this. >> If you don't like me, councilman, you
can vote now. >> What do you think? >> Good thing Bob doesn't get a vote. >> Um, could I have a motion? >> Motion. >> Motion made by Mr. Hernandez, seconded by Miss Patel.
Roll call. >> Mr. Karifi. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanaaugh. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> Miss Patel. Yes. >> And Mr. Hernandez. >> Yes. >> Congratulations, Mr. Marco. >> Thank you >> again. >> Uh R 202662,
intent to appropriate funds or bonds for affordable housing in the event of a funding shortfall. Motion to approve with the resolution above. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Hey, Ked. >> Yes, sir. >> This is not on the agenda that you sent
me. What is this one, please? Oh, this is an intent to appropriate funds or bonds for affordable housing in the event of a funding shortfall. >> What does that mean? >> So, you have an obligation to do uh rehab um which is separate apart from
the affordable units that you're existing. Um there is a fund that is available for that should there be a shortfall at any given point in time. Um this just says that you can go out and try to raise those funds and then re get
reimbursed by future uh fees that are collected for that fund. >> I have a motion to approve. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Miss Patel, seconded by Mr. Karifi. Roll call. Mr. Karifi. >> Yes.
>> Mr. Kavanaaugh. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> Miss Patel. Yes. >> And uh Mr. Hernandez. >> Yes. >> Motion passes. Um R 202663. Mr. McGrath. I don't know if this one is on there
either than if that one was on. >> It's not. >> Okay. So R 202663 adopting the affirmative fair housing marketing plan for affordable housing in region 2. Uh could I have a motion? >> Motion. Second. >> Motion. >> What is this one? K. Excuse me.
>> Yeah. I'm going to have him explain right now. So, um, all affordable units need to, um, be marketed in a way that, um, provides access to the public so that they're they're not supposed to be hidden. Supposed to be given people an
opportunity to who qualify to at least apply. Uh, and this sets forth the plan uh, that tells people that if you build an affordable unit, this is the marketing plan. And so it has to be in the paper. It has to be on our local website. You have to um shop it or at
least present it to local uh groups so everyone is aware that they this housing is available and they know how to apply. >> What is region two? >> Region two is just a region the state puts us in. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. So this central north central region is region two.
>> Okay. So >> Mr. Demarco, does that limit it to certain people being advertised to or open it up to more people being advertised to? How does that work in reading too? >> It opens it up. Um you're supposed to list it on the state site. Um so and then your local sites, your local paper,
right? So the concept is you wouldn't just advertise down in Atlantic City for people to come to Paripany, right? You would advertise within the region, right? So it's a geographic region. Uh but it also says that you should reach out to uh those groups, right? whether
that's a church or things of that nature um that have people in that community that would want to apply. >> Thank you. >> Roll call. Mr. Karifi, >> yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh, >> yes. >> Mr. McGrath, >> yes. >> Miss Patel, >> yes. >> And Mr. Hernandez,
>> yes. >> Motion passes. Moving along to approval of payroll and bills list. CFO and Joel Sabatini recommends authorization for payment. One, authorized payment of the March 13, 2026 regular miscellaneous payroll estimated at 1,650,000. and two, payment of bills from voucher
list of 3326, which is $1,759,26643. May I please have a motion to approve the authorization for payment? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Miss Patel, seconded by Miss Hernandez. Roll call. Mr. Karifi, >> yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh, >> yes.
>> Mr. McGrath, >> yes. >> Miss Patel, >> yes. >> And Miss Hernandez, >> yes. >> Motion passes. Moving along to executive session. Whereas the open public meetings act PL 1975 chapter 231 permits exclusion of the public from a meeting in certain circumstances. And whereas a
townial council is of the opinion that such circumstances presently exist and whereas a town council wishes to discuss attorney client privilege matters and litigation and whereas minutes will be kept and once the matter involving the confidentiality of the above no longer requires confidentiality the minutes of uh the minutes of the meeting can be made public. Now therefore be resolved by the town council at Township Pacific
Troy Hills that the public be excluded from this meeting. Can I have a motion to adjurnn it to close session? Second. Motion made by Mr. Hernandez, seconded by Mr. Karifi. >> Roll call. Mr. Karifi. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> Miss Patel. >> Yes.
>> And uh Mr. Hernandez. >> Yes. >> Okay. We are now going to adjourn into close session for a few minutes. We'll be back. Please have a motion to reconvene into open session. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Karifi, seconded by Miss Patel. Roll call. Mr. Karifi.
>> Yes. Mr. Kavanagh, >> yes. >> Mr. McGrath, >> yes. >> Miss um Patel, >> yes. >> And Mr. Hernandez, >> y >> back in open session. Um >> um no, I mean the uh we discussed two uh
pending litigations, the uh Reeves matter uh versus Township Partip and the Rosena matter. Um no public action is being taken. uh is anticipated though at the next public meeting there would be resolutions related to both of those actions.
>> Thank you, Mr. DeMarco. And may I please have a motion to adjourn the meeting? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made by Mr. Karifi, seconded by Mr. Patel. Roll call. Um Mr. Karifi. >> Yes. Mr. Kavanagh. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGrath. >> Yes. >> M. Patel? >> Yes. >> Miss Fernandez? >> Yes.
>> Thank you everyone. Have a great night. >> Matt, you're good. >> Thanks, sir. >> You got it, sir. So there