within a year. Hey, we're on record. That's expensive. So, good evening and welcome to the meeting of the Township of Parcan Troy Hills Board of Adjustment. Today is Wednesday, June 25th, 2025 and is 7:32 p.m.
Announcement is made that adequate notice of this meeting has been given and that is being conducted in accordance with NJSA 104-6 at set of the New Jersey Open Public Meetings Act.
We'll have the roll call. Mr. Burkowitz here. Uh Mr. Cro here. Mr. Joshua is Mr. Petty here Mr. Quinn here Mr. Ready present and we have chairman chairw woman Ganyani we have our board planner
Mr. Chadwick is not here uh we have our board engineer acting as board engineer and board planner Mr. Lmanoitz and our board attorney Mr. Johnson here. Would you please stand with us for the flag salute? I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Mr. Manos, would you raise your right hand? You swear or affirm that any testimony that you give tonight shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing.
Yes, I do. Is there any member of the public that would like to speak on something other than what is on our agenda for this evening? I see none. Okay. So, we have some correspondence
uh from uh correspondence re received from Bill Lutz uh request an application 254 that was on the agenda tonight uh be carried from June 25th to September 10th, 2025 without further notice but
with publication in the daily record and you glance the board in extension of time to make decision on the application And we have Well, you need a vote to grant that. I'm sorry. I always forget that. Can I have a a motion for that?
Some move. Second. Second. Okay. And all in favor? Okay. Uh resolutions. I have three on there for you. We're only approving two this evening. We have application 255
and Burkowitz Decross Jositz ready and Grani can vote. Can I have a motion? Second. Okay. Um,
excuse me. Burkowitz, yes. Dro, yes. Dowitz, yes. Ready? Yes. Griani, yes. And our other resolution application 2465. Uh we have Burkowitz, Decross Petty's
not here. Quinn Ready and Genani. I have a motion. So move second. Burkowitz. Yes. Crows. Yes. Quinn. Yes. Ready? Yes. Genani. Yes. Thank you, Nora.
Application 24 col 79 Mr. Patel 104 Hillside Terrace block 387 lot 6 zone R3 C varants to construct additions front
landing and stairs front walk rear landing and stairs air conditioning units on concrete pad and reconfigured driveway with expansion contrary to section 430-35
columns 5 and N and section 430-275H. Mr. Patel. Yes. Can you raise your right hand, please? Do you swear or affirm that the testimony that you're about to give should be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Great. State your name, spell your last name, please.
Kumar Patel. P R A K A U M A T. Great. You could have a seat. Just make sure that you slide that microphone the whole thing close to you so that you speak right into the microphone. Okay.
Yes. Good evening everyone. So, why don't you tell the board what it is that you'd like to do? Are you the owner of the property? Yes, sir. Okay. And do you have any that besides yourself? Is there anybody here to testify?
So what is that what is at the property now? Uh 104 Hillside Terrace, Piponyi, New Jersey 07054. Right. What is on that site right now? Uh right now I have a ranch style house where I live with my family. Okay. You live there with your family? Yeah. With me, my wife, my
daughter, and my son. Okay. And um and what you want to make some improvements to that property to the house. You want to make some additions and changes. Yeah, I have to do um extension and addition for my house because I have a roof leaking and I have a lot of water
coming from the green hill plaza in the because in the front parking lot area no system. All water coming in my backyard and it's it's going in my basement. So I will prepare the solid footing for that one. Okay. And did you hire an
architect? Uh yes. Is your architect here tonight? No, he he's out of country. Okay. Did your architect um met with the engineering department and yes um we I
took the appointment because last time I never received the letter from from the engineering department. So then I got the letter from here. I say I have to go and take appointment. So Brandon from engineing department he came there. We walked everything and we decide the where the location what we need to do
and the excavation and this the tank concrete tank for a uh did did you review the engineer's report? Yes sir. Did you understand? Yes 100%. It is a cost effective. Yes I understand.
So you said you're getting water from where? From um Green Hill Plaza. Okay. On a parti road because my house is exactly behind in the back. Okay. And if there is a heavy rain or anything, the water coming from me my side and my neighbor is going in the middle. It's a
lot of water. So how what are you doing to help that problem? I cannot do nothing. I mean I have water coming in my basement. I just clean up me and my wife. Okay. Okay. So, how does that matter into this? Because I have to go a little bit extend in the back and I'm
going to putting the concrete footing, solid concrete footing. Okay. To eliminate the water coming in my backyard. So, who told you that's going to work? I mean sir, that's I have only choice that one to do the the water foundation cuz right now my foundation
is is no good in the back side. Engineering department agreed. Yes. Department. Oh, that was for the impervious code maybe. I understand. And you you have the letter from uh the
engineering department June 20th. Yes. Okay. You understand that? Yes. 100%. So, did you have an engineer make changes to plans since the last time you were here? Uh, yes. That's why uh at
last time I was here and actually uh Mr. Johnson, you gave me the letter because I don't receive the letter and then I take a next appointment and we have a Brandon and we have a calculations everything and I put it on the main drawing. Okay. So, you you took the
letter that I gave you that came from the municipal engineer. Yes sir. And you gave it to Did you give it to your architect or to an engineer? No, I first take appointment with the Brandon with the engineering department here in Pacific. Yeah. And then uh we walk through on my house and we decide like
how much we need, what area we need. I understand everything. How much is a the well going to be the depth everything. Then I give all this information to my engineer and he revise the drawing. Okay. And that um is that the drawing
from VP Architectural Designs? You have that drawing in front of you? Yes, sir. Is that the drawing dated May 6th of 2024? Yes, sir. So, does that drawing show the location of a proposed dry well? Yes, sir. And is that the drawing
that you then took back to the township engineer for him to review? Yes. And then they issue this this later for then they issue this later. Just for the record that the drawing is May 6 to 24. It's revised May 5th to 25.
Thank you, Mr. Lo. I appreciate that. You have any questions of the board to the left? No, right? No, I'm okay. Are there any questions from the audience on the testimony given by this gentleman only? I see none.
So just just to Could you close the loop? You're looking for three variances. I I believe is that correct? Yes. Um one for a sideyard setback, right? 10 ft is allowed. You're proposing 5 1/2 ft.
And that's what's there now. It's 5 1/2 ft. Correct. Yes. garage. Okay. You also need a um a variance for driveway width. Um yes, because it's currently 10 ft
wide. You're making it 24 ft wide, right? Yeah, because you're making it 24' 4 in wide. Yeah, I have right now this, but the garage going to be this. So, I want to just add all the extra on this side. Okay. And why does it need to be four
more inches than what's allowed? 4 inch? Yeah, it's four inches more than what's allowed. Why do you need it to be 4 in more than what's allowed? 4 in. Because I'm I'm here for, you know, I want a little bit bigger size. So, at least 4 in.
I was asking why you need it. Is there some some design issue that is why you need it to be 24t 4 in? No, because the the door going to be in the middle of the house and it's going to go all the way 25 24 ft. So that's
why the concrete walkway p. Okay. So it if if it's not 20 ft 4 in, it won't match up with the walkway. Is that correct? Yeah, it's correct. Okay. All right. So that's why you need an extra 4 in, right? Yes. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Building coverage. And then you also
need a variance for building coverage. Your your the coverage. Yeah. Because And that's because of all the different additions and landings and walkway that you want to do. Yes. In the house. That's why you need that variance. Correct. Yes.
And could you just get something on the record on why you need to make the house this size? Because my my kids are right now my daughter is in, you know, she's going high school. My son is coming back. He's
in final year and is my dream like I have to do something for you know to live because I do like actually my background is I'm engineer and I I was working for New York City school construction authority as a project officer and the inspector then slowly
slowly I make my own company and my I start my own construction work and I do a as a general contractor for New York City school projects to do the gymnasium auditorium libraries is and you need the house because and
for to my for my dream house to make uh for my kids and for for my living family you know together. Are you adding a bedroom? Yes. Okay. And um I have to extend one more. So because right now the roof is is leaking. I have basement
coming leaking. I have the all window is is cracking and the drive is also broken everything you know. So if I go like this. Okay. You're showing you're showing the board a picture. Yeah. Is he going to give that to you? Yeah, we're going to need to we're going to need to take that picture cuz now you've asked
the board to look at it. Yes. Okay. So, you're handing me a stack of pictures. Yes. Okay. So, just so you know, we're not necessarily trying to be difficult, but you're asking us to grant you a variance. And to do that, we need proof
testimony from you telling us why we need to grant it. Okay. So the set I'm sorry no go right in. Okay. The set of pictures that you gave 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 pictures. I marked them
as A1 for identification. Okay. And then I'm going to pass them around uh to the board. Okay. Did you take those pictures? Yes, I Okay. What do those pictures show? I'm sorry. What are what's on the pictures? Is that your existing house? This is where I live with my pennies. He
just needs it for the record. You have to say it. Yeah. So that's Sorry about that. Right. So the reason you want the board to look at those pictures is you want to see the current them to see the current condition of the house. That's correct. So that you can explain to the board
what improvements you want to make to the house to make it better. Is that right? That's correct. Okay. Yes. Other side they want the same. Okay. No. Okay. And you want to add one bedroom? Uh, one, two, two, two extra bedroom.
You're adding two additional bedrooms. Two bedroom for your family. Right now three. Yeah. Okay. For my family. Yeah. Cuz right now it's like 10 by 10 room. And the kids are big now. I They even don't call their friend to because we have no enough room. So she's shy. He
said, "I don't need to shy. Call them here." What they said? No, we have no room here. Where they going to sleep? Okay. So, that little bit pinching. This is your dream home. Yes, ma'am. Okay. I don't I don't have any other questions. Did you have any interaction
with your neighbors or your one neighbor? No. Everybody's good with me and they are all they know what you're doing and everyone seems fine. Okay. Would someone like to make a recommendation? have to ask who's if there any questions. Do you have anything else you want the board to
hear? Any other testimony for me? No. Okay. So, questions from the audience. Any additional questions from the audience of this applicant for this testimony? Oh, do you have any witnesses to bring tonight? Um,
witness is my neighbor here. You have a ne there's a neighbor here tonight. Would your neighbor like to speak? Wait, hold on. If you're going to speak, you have to come forward. Okay. You have to tell us what your name is. My name is Radi. Okay. How do you
spell your last name? B A D E D I. Okay. And where do you live? I I'm 100 terrace. Okay. Can you raise your right hand? Yes. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony that you're about to give should be the truth, the whole truth, nothing truth? Yes, sir. Okay. Do you live near No, I'm next. It is my next
door, right? So, I live almost 15 years if we get it. Okay. Yes. Okay. Would you like to make any statement either in support of or in opposition to his application? I mean I I that's what the that's what he was trying to explain. You know now kids are like same his kids and my kids go to the
same school together. So when kids are coming home like when they want to bring their kids I mean like their friends he he's like little uh uh what do you call that little he himself is feeling shy. I guess he's blaming on his daughter. But I I know he's like, "Oh my god, my house
is too small. Uh, what should I do?" What kind of a thing? Okay. So, you support his application? 100%. Okay. Is it cyber secure? 100%. Just for the record, I work as a chief information security for the New York
City. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. One of our members. Sure. I think uh it looks like a great application. You're improving your home. You're making it your dream home. Your kids's coming back from college. You want to live there.
That's wonderful. You You work with the engineer. You're going to adhere to everything he requested. So, I will be voting in favor of the application. Thank you. Second. Now we got to we got to do the
recommendation of the motion application 2479 crash kumar Patel 104 hillside terrace block 387 lot 6 zone R3 recommend granting a C variance to construct additions front landing and stairs front
walk rear landing and stairs air conditioning units on concrete paired and reconfigured driveway with expansion contrary to section 430-35 columns 5 and 10 and sections 430 30-275H
when in accordance with agreeing to the requests and the discussions you had with the town engineer. Seconditz, yes. Krauss, yes. Josh, yes. Quinn, yes. Ready? Yes. Yes. Our application is
approved. You will be receiving a letter and at that time you can apply for your zoning permits. Thank you so much everyone. I appreciate you everybody. Enjoy the enjoy. Nor this to Nora, please.
Thank you. Thank you. Application 24 col 16 Joseph Hatchali 3 East Brook Lawn Drive block 199 lot 44 zone R3 C variance to construct an
ingground pool and coping pool patio and pool equipment on a concrete pad contrary to section 430-35 column 13. Can you raise your right hands, please? You swear or affirm that the testimony that you're about to give should be the
truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Could you identify yourselves, please? Caval C A C A V A L. Okay. So, why don't you tell the board what it is that you're proposed to do? Uh to put in an ingground pool in a
backyard. There isn't one existing right now. You said there is not one existing right now. It's not. And you need a variance for imperous coverage. Is that correct? Yes sir. So why does the pool and the pool patio
and the pool equipment have to be the size that you have proposed? Uh we just didn't want a pool. It just had the coping around it. We wanted a little bit of an area at least for chairs. And the um concrete pad is mandatory. That's for
the filters and so forth. As Mr. Ira Kane used to say, a pool is really a collector of water. That's what he used to say. Yeah. And um I see there's a report here from
the township engineer. Have you seen that? Uh maybe. Okay. Let's see. It's dated May 5th of 2025 from Justin Lisa. the municipal
engineer. Have you seen that? Yes. Okay. So, he he makes reference to a dry well plan that you submitted. Yes. Okay. Um he also indicates in there that the dry well must have a minimum of five vertical linear feet below the pipe
bottom and that no exceptions will be made at the time of inspection. Do you recall reading that? Yes. And are you okay with that? Yes. Are you okay with all of the other um conditions that he indicated in his May 5th, 2025 memo? Yes. Do you have any questions about any
of those things? No. Seems pretty straightforward to me. Is there anything else that you want to say? Nope. That's it. Okay. I assume the pool is for the enjoyment of yourself and your family. Correct. Uh for grandkids now that they come. Yes. Okay. Great. How many grandkids do you have?
Uh one in about a week. Okay. First one you need for the grandkids. Congratulations. Not once for many years. Yes. Anyone in the audience that would like to uh speak
ask questions questions on what this gentleman is proposing on his testimony only? I see none. Anybody can speak as opposition. Anyone want to speak in opposition or approval of this
application? I see none. I'm um I think it's a wonderful reason to be building a pool. Thank you. I am a first- time grandfather as well and is nothing like it. So, I will be voting in favor. Application 24 col 16 kakabella 3 East
Brooklyn lawn drive block 199 lot 44 zone R3 recommend granting a C variance to construct an ingram pool and coping pool patio and pool equipment on a concrete pad contrary to section 430-35 column 13 in accordance with all the requests from the engineering
department. Yes. Second that is Burkowitz. Yes. Cro. Yes. Joshitz. Yes. Quinn. Yes. Ready? Yes. Renani. Yes. Application is approved. You'll be receiving a notice and at that time you can apply for your purpose. Thanks.
Enjoy. Thank you. You're welcome. Application 24 col 73 Bomaretti 77 North Bewick Road lot 601 lots three and four zone B5 preliminary and final major site plan
with CD variance to construct residential units over commercial use and install a driveway. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Jason Ready. I'm an attorney with the law firm of Einhorn Barbaro here in Denville. Um, here tonight on
behalf of the applicant, as was said, Mr. Bomaretti and we also of his LLC, we've made application to this zoning board for preliminary and final major site plan with conditional use and bulk variances together with associated waiverss, deviations, and
exceptions. The property is located at 77 North Beverwood Road here in the township of Paripony. It's uh known and designated as lots three and four in block 601 on the official tax map. The property, as is indicated, is located in
the B5 local business own. The subject property currently contains a one-story commercial building on lot 4 and vacant land on lot three. The applicant is seeking approval to develop a two-story mixeduse building with the first floor containing existing retail
space and constructing the second floor to contain two residential apartments with related site modifications and improvements. There are a series of uh variances. I could run through those at length for they are uh set forth in the
planner report that was submitted with the application and then also in the engineer review report that was received the board engineer review report that was received. I think it might be helpful for the board if you did actually site the variances that you're requesting. Sure.
First one is from the provisions of section 430-129B which permits dwelling units as an accessory use to the principal use subject to certain conditions. Uh that's a conditional use variance that we
require if we do not meet all of the conditions um for the provisions of section 430-130 which requires a minimum front yard setback of 10 ft whereas the existing front yard setback is 9.7 ft and it's a
pre-existing nonconforming condition. uh from the provisions of section 430-130 and 430-35 which requires a maximum uh percent lot coverage by building of 35%. Whereas the
existing lot coverage by building is 44% and that is a pre-existing non-conformable condition from the provisions of section 430-130 and 430-35 which requires a maximum percent lot coverage based on impervious coverage of
90%. Whereas the applicants proposing 99%. from the provisions of section 430-132 and 430-276 which requires 18 off streetet parking spaces whereas the existing property
currently currently does not contain any parking spaces excuse me and the applicant is proposing a total of four from the provisions of section 430-132 and 430-275 and 285-7
uh 2-7D D which establish the off streetet parking requirements and standards. uh we do not conform entirely with all of those from the provisions of section 430-11D which requires fences to be uh.5 ft from
a property line whereas 4 ft closed from the provisions of section 430-123B and 430-131 which requires 20 foot wide buffer against the rear property line whereas
1.2 two proposed from the provisions of section 430-1.4C 4 C which does not allow optional parking be located within any desired buffer area whereas our parking is being proposed within the buffer area
from the provisions of section 430-275 which requires parking spaces to be 9 ft by 18 ft whereas we're proposing 8 ft x 23 ft from the provisions of section 430-275F which requires a minimum width of a
two-way two way drive aisle to be 22 ft whereas 12 ft's proposed from the provisions of section 430-275X which requires that driveway shall be located should shall not be located closer than 5 ft to the side or rear
block line whereas 2 ft is proposed and I think the last one is a sign variance for an awning extension into the front yard the maximum out is 3 ft whereas we're proposing 4.7 So that's a total of how many? Uh 13.
13. Uh I think some of those may be waiverss as well of the parking size, but I included and just just to make the list complete, there's also variance from 43258 uh because the lighting is not compliant.
And under 285-7D, the I'm sorry, based upon American with Disabilities Act, the handicap space is not compliant. That one I did that. Okay. I just trying
to find one I didn't miss that. Uh just for the record, legal notices were mailed to property owners within 200 feet on May 9th. Legal notice was published in the daily record on May 12th. The proof of service and affidavit of publication was provided to the board
on about June 5th. And we did receive uh from the Morris County Planning Board a letter of exemption uh dated November 13, 2024. I have uh three witnesses tonight. That would be the engineer, the architect, and a planner. Um, so unless there's any
preliminaries, I can call my first. Sure. Go ahead. Good evening. You know, not to turn off the microphone, right? Don't touch the buttons. Hello. You're good. Okay. Good evening. Can you raise your right hand, please?
Certainly. Do you Do you swear or affirm? You swear affirm that the testimony that you're about to give shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Yes, I do. Wait, state your name, spell your last name. Uh, Adam Candle, last name spelled K A N D I L. Um, we've
testified before this board before. I have. Yes. You've been qualified as a What is your area of expertise? Uh, professional engineer. Correct. And you've been qualified as a professional engineer before this board on numerous occasions. Correct. I have. Yes. Your license still in good standing? It is. Great. He's qualified. Awesome. All
right, Adam, I'm going to turn it over to you. I'm turn this way. Give the board an overview of the existing site and our proposed conditions. Yeah, certainly. So, um, uh, going through the bulk requirements, I I'll go through the bulk requirements and then go into the existing, um, as council has discussed
most of the variances that are requested. Um, essentially the site from the building standpoint remains the same with and we're adding a second story addition to the existing footprint of that building which uh further exuberates the um it further exuberates
the um uh the maximum percent coverage based on improve coverage which we go from 59% to 94%. And this is certainly in an effort to maximize the amount of parking uh that we can try to fit on the onto the site. In additional to that
with the bulk requirements is the building height which right now is a one story and we're going to 27.46 ft. So under the allowable of 30 um under the allowable of 35. Um and in
addition to that, um for the most part, those are the bulk requirements. And then the minimum gross floor area, we go up to a total gross floor area of the building of 5,540 uh square ft. Um as council discussed, there's an existing front yard variance
9.7 or 10 uh ft is required. Uh that's with regards to to that. And then I'm going to go to the existing conditions. Um, as you'll note here, existing conditions. We have the existing building that we're talking about over
here, which is what's called a 2700 ft² refer uh roughly footprint and the uh adjacent lot three, which is vacant right now, is where we're looking to add the additional parking. Yeah, we'll see, buddy. Yep.
Can everybody can everybody see the board? So, you're going to merge the lots? Yes. We're going to consolidate the L. Yes. As a as a result of the application. Okay. And if you the the existing building
envelope is not increasing. Is that correct? That that is correct. Okay. But the impervious coverage is increasing because you're adding pavement to add parking. That is correct. Mr. Shando, can you just verify the
footprint because there's a conflict within the application on the footprint of the building? Um, I I have 2,770 square ft is what we're getting as the gross from the outside. Um, yeah. And then there there is uh just um
just getting clarification from um that we'll be infill on a portion. uh there is like a little triangle here in the front that as a result when we go up we'll be infilling that on the ground level. So the increase of the impervious of the building footprint would go to
that 2,770 because of that. So that might be why the discrepancy is there any uh history of water issues? Um, so
yeah, when with regards to storm water, I didn't uh it didn't appear that there was any issues with storm uh storm water. Uh, when I did go into the building when it was vacant, there was some moisture, but that was as a result of building um unoccupied for quite a while. So, there was some moisture in
the building at that instance, but it didn't appear that that was from the storm water. There is certainly some vapor and moisture because the backside of the building here is actually covered with dirt. So the the um the the dirt currently now uh is is above and buries
the finished floor of the building in the back. So there is some moisture and vapor coming. Is the landlord here? Is the owner here or Yeah. the owner if there's been any problems with water? Sure. I mean, he's only owned it since uh last year, 2014.
Yes. Okay. Should we swear? Can you raise your right hand, please? Do you swear or affirm that the testimony that you're about to give should be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Yes. Can you state your name and spell your last name, please? Make sure you speak into the microphone. Rama moan Bretti. Last
name is B for boy. O M A R E D Y. And you're the owner of the building? Yeah. And how long have you owned it? Something as I mentioned 2014. Is there currently a tenant in the building? No. When is the last time there was a tenant? There was no tenant
ever since I took over. There was a tenant before when he took over and he vacated. He used to be a cabinet mate. And when did he did he vacate before you bought the properties? No. After. After you. So, he was there when you bought
the property? Yes. Okay. Have a seat, please. Have a seat. Oh, yeah. Have a seat. Yeah. Can we ask you in the 11 years you've owned it? Do you have any uh history with having a water a water issue? I never had any
water issue except maybe when there's heavy rain. I might have seen some seepage from the because the back of the building is almost five six feet high. So there must be no maintenance of the building. That could be a reason. Is there a basement? No, no basement. No
basement. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Just a question. uh the cabinet um the cabinet maker there before um has there been any tests to see it's any residual lacquers or thinners or anything in the building? No. No, there aren't any
issues. No, because as a res using residential the the the triggers for remediation for um chemicals like that is is is a lower threshold if you're going to go to to residential. No, I don't think that he has. He's uh does
finished work of the cabinets and that's it. Right. But that would that would be lacquer is polyure. That's what you put on the outside of the cabinet to make it look nice. Just wondering if I I'm not aware of anything that in the place. So do you think we need that as a condition
if we just so move ahead? I mean that's an option you have. Um do you know how long the cabinet company was there? No idea. They were there a long time. When I bought it, he was there. So, and but definitely not any is not there.
Excuse me. Cuz there's also the potential of people, you know, dumping the stuff outside on that vacant area. Oh, no. No, that was no dumping at all. Ever since I bought it, all clean. You said all clean. Oh, yeah. Everything was concrete floor and everything.
Are there no more? No questions. Yeah. And on the rear, that's where the um the building's buried. So there is definitely some seepage like that when the moisture comes. At one point the roof was leaking. I remember when we first went there and I think that was
repaired. Um right at one time. So nobody's occupied the building at all. No one occupied. Building's been empty sitting there. ever since the hardship. At least I'm trying to do something at least now. Yeah.
Okay. And I think everybody knows the location. So it's uh the closest intersection, Haywata Boulevard. To the north is the Lake Haywata Derry. Uh to the south, Santiago, and across is the meat and uh grocery market across uh on
North Beway. Um, so with regard to existing conditions, that essentially is what we're looking to do. Trying to in an attempt to add as much parking as possible. We do understand it is narrow, but hoping to make the situation a little better with regards to parking.
Um, a lot of the the establishments on the road there don't have parking, but we're in a in a best attempt to provide parking. We're that's what we're seeking to do with this application. Um, I'm going to just put up the proposed conditions.
Uh so as you can see just the same building footprint. We have a driveway access coming in through here. Uh we have one, two, three essentially parallel parking spaces. an attempt to create that other one. We have that fourth spot here. Um, as engineering
said, um, it's not ADA compliant. Uh, but an attempt to provide an additional parking spot there. Now, you you you submitted a sheet for turning templates. Can that rear space against the back line be accessed if the other three
spaces have cars in? Um, if if this if these have car if the cars are parts here, could this be accessed? Correct. Uh yeah, cuz that's not what your turning template shows. The turning template, um which I think we have as well. Um well, it the vehicle
has to back out to take No, what I'm saying is according to your turning template, in order to get into the rear, I'll call it the handicap space, but it's not qualified for that. In order to get to the handicap space, the car has to go into that last parallel space in
order to make the swing. So, if there's a car in that last space, that one in the back's not accessible. Nobody can get in or out. Okay. Cuz if you look at your sheet, what I think it's it's a one of one, I think. I do. It was my understanding previously
when this curve return. Do you have that sheet? Um, do you have the uh turning stuff here? Yeah. Yeah. Here it is. Right where that as it makes the turn. It's in that last parking space. Yeah.
Right. Yeah. Right there. Right where your finger was. That's a park. That means that that last space has to be empty. Yeah. And Yeah, I do. I do see. So, these two are acceptable. That last spot Yeah. would would need to be empty
or be the joint the same tenants. So, in effect, you've only got three parking spaces. Yeah. or or essentially these could be the same uh they could be uh two spaces associated with the same tenant if if possible. But even that if you look at where your
lines are you you got like inches to spare as somebody's trying to reverse out of that which I don't think is very practical at all. Yeah. And we we know coming into I mean with the with regards to the parking it is a little tight. So we are trying to do the best we can with
that area. Um, and you know, I mean, in the event that you know, we can make that work, if we had to lose that other one, we we would lose it. But we are trying to do the best we can. We're trying to maximize the parking spaces there like and in the event so if these
are, you know, if the units are going to have 1.8 or two cars per unit that the that they can be coordinated that these two spots be the same unit or tenant so that they can coordinate with one another. Is it your intention to limit the parking to the tenants on the second
floor? That is the intention. And how's that going to be enforced? Um, so we would we would probably put a sign just saying no park no overnight parking and permit parking only, which would be issued by the landlord. And are you going to have a restriction in the lease as to how many cars the tenants can
have? Uh, yes. It would be two per each tenant. And how's that going to be enforced? So that would be on the lease. They would know that upfront that they're only allowed to um two parking spaces per unit. How many bedrooms are each unit? Um these are two each one is
two bedrooms. And did you say if I understood you correctly that when they want to exit, they have to back out. That is correct. There isn't enough of a radius for them to turn around to come forward. So, they're going to be coming.
They're backing out, either back in or back out. And and our engineer is indicating that it's almost impossible. It's a tight area. Well, to make the turn in the back is is is is not practical. Reversing on
North Beverick Road, I think I've got some significant safety issues with that because you can't see. Yeah. Uh and you're going to have cars there. You've got the ice cream shop next door with with outdoor dining. Um, I think that reversing on the North Beverick is is is
a has going to have some safety issues. That's not a little side street. That's a main roadway. Um, so like I said, now the the the except you have it again that handicap space is not is is not valid and and that the
board can't give you away from a federal uh but walking back to the front door to get into the building. Um, the aisle is substandard in width. It's only 12t wide. You've got people reversing down
that while other people are trying to walk to get to North Bedwick Road. It just doesn't seem like you got a whole lot of space there. How would the tenants going to access the apartments on the second floor? From the front, they would they would also come Yeah, they would come through the front and there's also a rear There's a
rear entrance uh which the architect will also um show, but there is a rear entrance, but they would access through the front. Can I see where Yeah. Where are they going to access from the front? The corner is Yeah. Here and then on the back doorway. Yeah. Okay. Um your
parking calculations assume one space per 200 ft. Correct. Are you going to re is it the uh owner's intention to restrict the use of that commercial space not to use the other there's other uses allowed in that zone with more with
a higher parking requirement. Barber shops, nail salon. um offices, so on and so forth. Is that going to be you're going to be restricted? You're not going to have those types of tenants cuz that would require I think I think the most likely kind of almost like 18 parking
spaces, not the 14. And so we're we're parking well the the requirement we're we're we're saying is one per 200 uh gross floor um on the uh on the plans, which again is a general commercial. So, I I think the question is if there was
like a restaurant or something that's a higher intensity, if we would be restricted to um the parking regulations of 14, if that's the if that's something you're willing to do as the as the owner
not to be sitting on take out. If I could understand your point, just go backwards. In other words, you're asking whether the applicant would agree to restrict tenants to certain uses that require not to sit restaurant only for
use the microphone, please. Yeah. And and I think what we would and I think what we would be okay with is restricting to a a use that 10 spaces is okay for the commercial as long as it conforms with 10 spaces cuz we'd be
allocating four well four really for the for the residential and then the the required 10 which would be allocated to the commercial that would be by getting relief we we would be requesting that as long as the use doesn't go beyond 10
spaces is that a a rule of that capacity could be um is that because you have no spaces? We have no spaces. Correct. And and again that what they what they're claiming is required goes against goes with the discussion on the parking variance. So
what they're saying is they're not going to have a grocery store. They're not going to have a barber shop, beauty shop, laundry, cleaners, shoe repair, restaurants, medical or dental offices, uh educational instruction. None of
those uses are going to be in this building. Well, so so to be so the intent from the applicant standpoint is that we don't have a tenant yet, right? Once it's approved, he would be looking to market it for a tenant um that that
space. So there's no uh specific tenant now, but as long as that tenants's use um does not require or yield more than 10 spaces, we hope that the board would allow any use that is approved in the B5 zone to to to occupy this building. But
the relief is really zero to 10. The relief is zero for the 10. Yeah, correct. How many spaces are you proposing at the present time with the two apartments and whatever uh business will be?
So what what's proposed now is the is the four spaces the one two three four. So four in total but can you do four? You could we have we don't think we you can can't do four. You can't do four. Can't do four. Did you think about
making one apartment upstairs? No. Yeah. Okay. And is the is the space am I to understand did and I hear correctly that the width of that parking area is not sufficient is less than what is
required. Uh yes that's correct. Let me go back to the site plan. Yeah. So, here's the site plan. So, currently, right now, it's really a oneway. It's
really um Yeah. What we're proposing right now is really just a 12t wide aisle. So the uh spaces are 8 8x 23t long and a 12t wide aisle. So it could be increased by about a foot or so, but
we're really landlocked between that space. I mean, again, it's a it's an effort to get as much off streetet parking as we can within the the limited space of that lot that we have adjacent to us by by paving the entire thing. by paving the entire thing
on the street in front. Are there is there legal parking right in front of it? Uh there is. Mhm. There is. And that is also a potential trade-off that we would also be looking at is not putting any offsite if there is
consideration for uh not putting any offsite. I mean uh on-site if there's consideration for um off-site. Now that there's no that's lawn right now. There's no drop curb there now. There there's no drop curb. You're going to lose a parking space on the street to
make the driveway. That is correct. That is correct. So, you're making it worse, right? has um has your traffic I don't know whether you have a traffic engineer or not but um have they been to this location during the week and on the
weekends when let's say someone is using the um ice cream store or they're using the cleaners where they're parking in the street um well well there's certainly there's certainly um street parking available
and and you know just I mean we have not done a traffic study, but just knowing the area and going there. There is certainly street parking available and you also have the public parking lot um beyond um you know down the street beyond Santiago as you keep walking down. But there is certainly enough
parking on the street there that we anticipate that there is. And and that's why the parking is really going to be reserved only for the residential, but there is certainly enough when we go throughout the day because there's all these different types of uses during the on this main street that allows at
different times that you can find an open space if you want to try this restaurant or go to the barber or go to a specific use there. So, there are certainly enough um street parking, but again, this was an this was certainly an effort to try to get as much as we can
off street parking. But but you said you're you made a comment like you're doing it to alleviate an issue not having the uh business park in the back. It wasn't realistic to have the business park in the back. It's you don't even have enough signs for the tenants uh
parking for the tenants. So, that's not really true. Yeah. Well, it's true, but it's not the reason you're doing it. You There's parking for residential. That's their parking. You're not giving it to uh the business to use that parking
during the day because the tenants could be there. So, that's not really Yeah. Yeah. We don't We would pref Yeah. We don't want it to be for commercial um for the commercial use. We would prefer the commercial use to be using on street parking. It'll be really limited to the
residential. Are you going to mark that rear parking for handicap? Um, we would we would not necessarily mark it, but um because it's not going to meet the standards, but depending on the um the tenant if a tenant was in
need of having a handicap space, then we would do whatever we can to to modify a a space or to present a space that could work from a handicap standpoint. But if our engineers said we can't uh give a variance, right, for a federal law, how
do you get around that? You you don't. So, we would we would we would basically put as residential. So, we would just use it as residential. Residential doesn't require um it's not it's not doesn't it's not multif family. It's just a two family house. It's a two
family apartment there on top. So, we would just eliminate the handicap and just make it a standard space. Well, if you had a handicapped tenant, if you did have a handicapped tenant on the second floor, you know, the designated spot for that handicapped
person is the furthest away from the entrance door to the second floor. Correct. And it would not permit a wheelchair to get out of a to get out of that vehicle. Correct. Correct. So, how is that a realistic handicap spot? It's
Yeah, it's right. It's It's not I mean it this was just a you know if needed we would provide a 5-ft strip along the back there to allow for unloading for somebody to get out of a wheelchair. And then is there a designated walkway
along the side of the building to for to for pedestrians to get from their vehicles out to North Beverick Road? So they would walk along the building and we do have like some ballards over there to allow them to walk along the side, but it's not there's not a three-foot
strip for them to get through. And to get into I'll call it spot number two. Mhm. Okay. Those three spots are parallel parking spots. Right. So to get into spot two, you've got to pull up to spot three and back into that spot.
That's correct. with the ballers on your lefthand side and a car on your right hand side. That's correct. Did you look at the at the turning to get into there? Um well, like I said, the turning for the back one doesn't
work. 12 a 12ft aisle um to get it's like parking in this side of street. I mean, if you if you have a 12t lane that your car is in and back into the parallel, it's doable. It's doable. It's tight, but it's doable.
I mean, the main the main thing is certainly going to be the ability for a car to come out and they would essentially have to back in to the site and then come out with their face. Yeah. How is that happening? No one's doing that. They're they're going to just
pull. They're going to pull up here cuz someone could be backing and someone's trying to back out and they meet in the middle somewhere. It would it would be similar to somebody if they were parallel parking on a street, right? They would stop their car. They put their brakes on, wait for cars in the back to stop, and then they would back into I I I I can tell you what's going
to happen. That back lot, you're going to have two tenants upstairs, right? You're going to have, let's assume they have four cars each. Someone's going to park in that spot in the back and then their roommate is going to block them in. That's practically probably what's going to happen.
And and that's what that's how it would be coordinated with the same tenant, right, on the same unit. Yeah. you you're not going to have that as a designated spot, but well, they would be assigned their spots. I mean, they we would assign their spots. So, we can essentially the
two that are behind each other, we can assign those two spots to the same to the same tenant. And when they got a friend over, they're going to block that that that tenant in cuz that's where they're going to park cuz no one's going to enforce that. It does feel like you're I I appreciate
that the landlord wants to make use of a of a spot that hasn't had a tenant in years. It just feels like you're cramping a lot of stuff in a very small area
and a little bit dangerous in the sense of you have an ice cream parlor couple of, you know, stores down, one store, one store down, even closer. Thank you. and cars could be backing out of that which makes it even worse. Understood.
So there's some real concerns there for me. Now with regards to the concerns would it I mean we know the area and we know especially at night if you were to go at night time you certainly would find available spots. Um, and it's something
that we can discuss, but if we could at least have the ability to have the on street parking, would that be something that would sit better with the board of having no off-site parking and utilizing just the street? No on no on-site parking. Correct. You're putting a
burden on the pop on the on the spots that are there and you're cutting out one spot to begin with. Yeah. Yeah. And then you have residents, are they going to park, take up those spots for 20 someone goes away, they leave the car there for 24 hours or or whatever. Is that a no overnight parking
or is there a snow situation on that street? No parking when there's snow. Yeah, that's the townwide. You're not supposed to park when it's snowing. into the road. Well, if they have residents, I don't know what I mean, the business could be business is a
business, but if you live there and it snows on Saturday, you expect not to have to leave the house. Yeah. And how would it work with u with the the um the parking lot down the that's the township property. I know it's not designated for a specific site, but is there any way to
seek a permit or something from the town with regards? Yeah. There any other questions? Mr. Candell, are you I have so many. Yes. Okay. Mr. Burkowitz, do do you have any idea how many other
businesses or apartments are within I don't know two blocks that have no parking? There there's several businesses uh down the street um along Lake Hawata that have no parking. I mean, you know, as you get through um the um I guess let's
just let's just think of terms of mixed use mixed uses uh with a I guess a business use downstairs and apartment upstairs. Are there others that have no parking? I mean, no, I I would probably leave that
for for Donna for the planner. Planner? Yeah. I mean, if you didn't have parking on this site, then I guess the development would be in tune with the rest of the neighborhood. That
That is correct. And could you then use that property for some recreational uh use by the tenants? that that yeah that is certainly something that we would prefer to do or to entertain is to utilize it for something else or some greenery there as
well. But if you if if then if you don't have any parking and let's say it is for greenery, then you're putting a burden on the other businesses that are on that street that when they have when they have
people come to either the chiropractic office or the uh Dairy Queen or the um the dry cleaners, you're putting a burden on those residents that want to park in the street. That's right. If they're going to have their cars in the
street on a permanent basis permanent because they live upstairs, they live upstairs where they go to work during the day. Not everybody. All right. Okay. Well, it's not it's not an ideal situation. I'm just looking for alternatives. Okay. I I just want to
make sure we try to close the loop on Mr. Manzo's question about uses on in the commercial space. Um I think the the question is is your client willing to specifically limit uses in that space to
certain uses that are less intense in terms of parking. Not sure how we quite define that in a resolution, but let's just get that question out first. Well, I need to have an offline conversation just raised, so I can't put him on the spot to answer that. Understood. But I
think that's a question that is that's a question that's pending. So I think we need to kind of figure that out. I think the way you word that is that the use no no commercial use in the business can have require more parking spaces than one per 200. Okay. We could do that but
that's the easiest way to do it because that's the number that is used. Yeah. Mr. Do you have a question? No. No. But he just he just answered it. Okay. He must been thinking like he saw me thinking it. Anyone
else have a question of this? Uh, with respect to the drainage, I couldn't find in the report. Um, what did you use for a void ratio? Uh, 40%. 40%. The ordinance requires 33%. Okay. Is there is there a storm drain in front of the
property? Uh there is u there is no storm trainer from the because there's an inlet at the corner to the north and there's another one inlet maybe one or two uh properties to the south. So the question is is
there a storm pipe connecting those two? There is there is storm pipe down the road but there's no catch basin along our frontage. Right. the the the closest one is on the is there, but there's another one down
that correct again down south. So my question is is there a pipe connecting those? It's my understanding that there is. I I can verify that because right now you have the building and grass flowing towards North Beverick sheet flow. Correct. You're going to pave all
that and you're going to but continue to send it across the sidewalk into the street. The dry well should be connected to that storm drain as an overflow so you don't have sheet flow particularly in ice and whatever going across the sidewalk concentrated like that.
Certainly. And we could if needed we could put a trench train as well to pick it up if needed. Or you you're going to have to do something for like a a sump or something to catch the stains and grates and whatever so it doesn't contaminate your drywalls. Certainly.
We can do that. Andrew, we have any other questions from the board? Is there anyone in the audience? Mr. Just do you you do you have my letter of June 23rd? I did not get your June 23rd
letter. I Okay. I I got your original letter that we responded to. Okay. Uh and and again, the packets, but you know, they I got it a little bit late, so I wasn't able to get this together. Um, we have the soil permit issue. Um,
it's and in your response letter, it said the engineering department had no objections, but the planning board grants the so we need to see what you submitted to them. Just like I submit writing reports, the board still have to see all the information. So that whatever you submitted to the to the
town to the town engineer should be submitted to the board for review. It's same package. Okay. Uh cuz the same original package went up, the original um
the town engineer I spoke with I spoke with him and they're going to be looking for some kind of dedication because the rightway for this the rightway line is literally like right behind the curb right there. Okay. So, uh I wasn't able to get a a good definition on that, but that was something that he was that he
uh asked asked to have asked for. Would it be to conform to the 50 foot rightway or above and beyond? Again, I didn't speak to him. I wasn't able to speak to him on specifics, but basically they want they want these, you know, the the sidewalk or at least and again, I not know what his dimensions are yet, some
dedication, whether it's an access uh a public easement, a public access easement or dedication right away, something so that they have control there. Um the transmitter said that there were going to be updated
architectural plans with signage. I'll ask I guess I'll ask the architect because I didn't get any architectural plans. Um but that was again I was on your letter. The building height calculation is needs to be needs to be revised. I'm sorry. The building
calculation re was revised but the dimension on the engineering plans don't match the dimensions on the architect on the architect's plan. So you got to get you you did it right. But the question is, do you have the right finish floor to peak? Um,
the north be the the driveway. There's a there's some conflicting information about that driveway. This township is right now going through a streetscape project and they do not they are not going to have the curb returns go into the property like that. It has to be a
standard apron. Okay. And there's going to be need to be some communication because once they pave that road, you got a 5-year moratorum that for excavating again the stop sign. uh you added the planters like I suggested and just for the board's
information the the reason I I asked them to add the planters is to force the people not to walk up against the front of the building so that if someone's coming out of the out of coming out with a vehicle you've got a little more time to see the person walking past. Um but
again I I mean I think that'll help but I don't think it's I really don't think it's going to be enough to make that driveway safe. Um, but if the board is is is going to accept that parking lot, um, the stop sign should go on the sight side of the sidewalk. You have it at the
curb. Okay. So, we they want them to stop before they get into the sidewalk. You got it. Um, the handicap parking, we decided it's not going to be handicapped for parking. Um,
we talked about the turning radiuses. Uh trash. The trash is in the back of the building by that last space. How is that handled as far as collection? So it it'd be wheeled out to the curb side for
pickup. So someone all the tenants are going to do their own garbage can kind of thing. That's correct. And then also the uh commercial space as well. Okay. So the commercial space would be it would be contained in indoors and then brought out. Okay, we
already talked about the void ratio. Um not sure that's all I have for this members of the public questions. Members of the public I was wondering if the board had any questions. Oh, sorry. Any questions from the board? Nope. Anyone
in the public that would have questions of this applicant and his testimony only? Please come up if you have any questions. See none. Yes, please come up. Do you have a question of this witness? No, I just
want to make a comment. This is comments. Go ahead. No comments now. It's fine. No, this is an opportunity for members of the public to ask questions of the witness. If you are a member of the public that has comments either in support of or in opposition to the application, there'll be a time
after the That's fine. to make your comments about that. Is your testimony complete, Mr. Okay. Thank you. You want to take a fivem minute break so I can talk? Surely. Sure. Yeah, fine. Go ahead. Yeah.
Well, we would request the board is we've heard some really helpful information and comments. We'd ask to postpone the rest of tonight, carry the application, let us digest it, sort of regroup in terms of uh a lot of the
comments and things like that. Let us sort of absorb that and see what we can do to address a lot of those. We'd like to carry this to whatever the next available is. Okay. Not in two weeks. I was And you'll grant the board all necessary
extensions, right? Oh, yes. Um, okay. Mhm. October 29th. Wow. 29th. October the 29th.
That'll give you time. Really? Almost great. Okay. Motion. Notice. I moved it. Second. No. No. Gentlemen, the attorney is still speaking. Go ahead, sir. I'm sorry. With no further notice, correct? Correct. No
further notices. Okay. So, for any members of the public that are here, the application's being carried till October 29th. Oh, but you still need a motion. We did. We did it. Mr. Coast was on. I was told. Mhm. Okay. Okay. So, do we have a
motion, please? Wait, hold on. We haven't We haven't the motion to carry this. We have a motion and a second so far on carrying this application to the 29th. approved. All in favor? I I Okay.
Now. Now. Okay. We're excused. Ajourn, please. Yes. Motion. Second, please. Second. Second. All in favor? I. Good night. Have a good night, everybody. Good night. How far is the