All right, we're on record. >> Thank you. >> Good evening and welcome to the meeting of the Township of Paripony Troy Hills Board of Adjustment. Today is Wednesday, January 14th, 2026, and it is 7:30 p.m.
Announcement is made that adequate notice of this meeting has been given and that is being conducted in accordance with NJSA 10 col4-6 at SE at the New Jersey Open Public Meetings Act.
Roll call. Mr. Burkowitz >> here. >> Mr. Monzerella >> here. Miss Neglia >> here. >> Mr. Ready >> present. >> Chairwoman Gyani >> present. >> We have our board planner Mr. Chadwick >> present. >> Our board engineer Mr. Lmanoit >> here.
>> And our board attorney Mr. Johnson >> present. >> Would you all stand and join us in the pledge of allegiance please? I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Is there anyone in the audience that has anything to say other than what is on our agenda this evening? I see.
Nora, would you please uh do the application for gay resolution for gay? >> Application 2521 Sebastian Gay 3 Duville Drive. Um the those who can vote are Burkowitz, Maserella, Neglia, Ready, and
Grani. Can I have a motion? >> So move second. >> Burkowitz. >> Yes. >> Masarella. >> Yes. >> Neglia. >> Yes. >> Ready? Yes. >> Gyani. >> Yes. >> Thank you, Nora.
Application 25 col 73 Kathleen Nati 48 Ronald Road block 587 lot 5 zone R4 a C variance to install a 5-ft fence 4t
high solid PVC with 1 ft high lattice contrary to section 430-11 A and B Ni >> can you raise your right hand Please do you swear or affirm that the testimony that you are about to give should be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but
the truth. >> Please state your name. Spell your last name. >> Kathleen. N A T. >> Kathleen. >> Yeah. >> You could move it a little closer to you. >> Kathleen Noli. N A T O L I.
>> Great. Thanks. So, why don't you tell the board what it is that you'd like to do? >> Okay. I want to replace the existing fence that I have, which is wood and it's falling apart. It's a picket fence. Um, I would like to, as is stated, make
part of it enclosed um for some privacy cuz I don't have a backyard. And also, um, we have a small dog that we would like to keep enclosed in the yard and stop her from barking at everything and everything that walks
down the street. And we find it annoying. I'm sure our neighbors do, too. So, >> does Long View Avenue exist? >> Is there pavement there? Is there a road? >> Long View? >> Yes. >> Yes,
>> it is. >> So, that's your front yard as well? >> Yeah. >> Although functionally, it's your backyard. >> Correct. Yeah. >> Do you have the letter from the uh our
engineering department >> uh dated November 21st? >> I have no objection. >> I have a survey. >> Yeah. >> Oh, no. This letter >> here. I have a copy.
>> It's actually good. >> There's no issues. >> Take a look at that. We could have had that. Yeah, >> easy to put that one foot on, >> right? >> It is good news, not bad news. >> I think the last sentence, >> yes, >> is
>> no objection to the abs. >> Absolutely. Um, so it'll be a solid fence and then the lattice would be above which would make it come to 5T. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> That's what your fence is. It will be a 4ft solid with the lattice on the top.
>> Well, right now it's a three-foot picket fence. >> Your proposed >> opposed to Yes. >> Well, plus you you're going to be correcting the fence line. >> Yes. >> Looking at the survey, it looks like >> Yes. Right now it's it's over the property line. So, yes, I'm going to fix that.
>> So, that's not close. >> Do we have any other questions from our board? professionals. Any questions of this applicant of her testimony? >> No. >> Did the the only thing I just real quick and I know what was said,
>> but here it says proposed solid. I just No, I >> that's why I read >> Yeah. Okay. All right. I just want to make sure we put that in there that we know the top half's going to be lattice. >> Yes, >> that's all. >> 4 foot solid, one foot ladder. >> Correct. >> I'll make sure the resolution says that.
>> Thank you. Is there anyone in the audience that has any questions of this test of this applicant and the testimony that she has given this evening? I see none. Would one of our members like to make a recommendation for approval, please?
>> This is a very reasonable and acceptable application. I'm in favor of this. >> Can I move that? >> Please. Application 25 column 73 Kathleen Natali 48 Ronald Bro 587 last
five zone R-4 to issue or grant C to install 5T high fans 4T high solid PVC with 1 ft high latice content to section 430-11
A and B Second >> burglaritz. >> Yes. >> Nasarella. >> Yes. >> Petty. Oh, sorry about that. Ready? >> Yes. >> Will. >> Oh, God. >> That's
I did this so many months back. It has the old info. >> Mr. Tilly, your application has been approved. You'll be receiving a letter from the township and at that time you may go for uh your your permits. >> Thank you so much. >> Lot of luck. Enjoy.
>> Have a good one. Application 25 colon 51 Jade Atoria and Laura Peters 144 Rainbow Trail block 112
lot 3 zone R3 a C variance to construct front additions front portico with below landing and stairs rear edition rear covered screen porch driveway expansion
for a total of 62 22 square ft front walk and side and rear walk contrary to section 430-35 columns 4 5 6 10 and 13 and sections
430-275X. >> Hello. >> Can you raise your right hand please? Just swear or affirm that the testimony we're about to give should be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. >> Yes. >> State your name and by your last name please. Uh, Jay Dtoria. Last name is A T O R I A.
>> And are you one of the owners of the property? Yes. >> And you have someone here with you tonight? >> He's our architect. >> Okay. What's your name? >> Evan Scott. >> Could you raise your right hand, please? You swear or affirm that the testimony that you're about to give should be the truth, but hopefully it's another public. >> I do. >> State your name. Spell your last name.
>> My name is Evan Scott. Sot Architects. >> And you're the architect on this project, >> correct? >> Could you just briefly put your qualifications on the record? >> Sure. I'm a licensed architect in New Jersey for over 15 years. Licensed in five states. Um, and I have a master
degree in architecture as well. Your >> licenses in good standing. >> Good standing. Yes. >> You've testified before boards. >> I have. >> Including this board or >> not this board. It's my first time here. >> Could you please bring the microphone closer to you so the people in the audience may hear you? >> Sure. >> Thank you. >> Okay. So, he's qualified.
tell us a little bit about >> maybe we before we start have you seen the engineers letter of November 24th >> of Mrs. Lisa, >> you have not >> I have I have
>> we have this in a number of instances where the engineer doesn't have an idea of how your drainage system would work. >> I don't have that. And absent that information, it's going to
be difficult to come to a conclusion until we do know that. >> And the absence of topography obviously is a real issue in terms of >> you mean gring. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. My suggestion to the board will be that you ask to carry this. You're not you're not you can't hear me. >> Can you now? You cannot.
This better closer. >> There you go. >> Coming down my throat. Uh my suggestion to the board is that you ask this to be carried, meet with the township engineer, determine whether or not you need one a
full topographic survey in order to design a drainage system or work that out with him because the cost on, you know, doing topo and everything else can get significant. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And I assume you're going to hit rock up
there. >> Correct. Yeah, it's on the It's on the lake. So, >> yeah, I know. >> Uh so that way when we get back on a new meeting, we'll have the answers as to
storm water that it'll work. Uh that you get it's within your resources cuz sometimes these can get pretty expensive to >> Yeah. Yeah. We we had discussed uh reducing the amount of impervious coverage. It was thought about trying to go for an increased driveway um to fit a
second car next to it. Um >> work work those things out with him so we get a letter back and can say I've met with and discussed and approved the plan dated such and such. >> No, you >> cuz otherwise we're going to be getting
to what I'm talking about. Sure. >> Half an hour from now. >> Yep. Dr. D you you said uh you reduced the impervious coverage >> impervious correct >> but you said existing is 27 and you're proposing 35
>> on the application >> correct >> you're still over but you reduce what the original proposal >> we will reduce the amount of the proposed correct yeah not >> we're just going to get everything confused a little bit >> so you're saying less than the 34 that's on there is what you're
>> we'd be willing to concede Yeah. If it meant not going for topography and gradient, >> you need to talk with him. >> Sure. >> That's his call. >> Do you agree that to have this application carried at a date that will be mentioned right now?
>> I think it would be in your best interest. Could we also discuss though uh other items in the variance to see if those will be approved or not approved but you know any um considerations regarding the
addition pieces? I think rather than make any more announcements, why don't you talk to the engineering department, come back with their suggestions as to what would be
best for you and financially best for you also. >> Sure. Yeah. We just don't want to go to the next meeting, have engineering approved, and then have to come back for something else >> or the building other >> building. You fill them in quarters and covered
over correct patio. Correct. Yeah. It's >> probably best to have everything done at the same time. >> Okay. >> Cuz you don't know. I mean, maybe your plans will change between now and then when you talk to the engineer about the drainage issues. I mean, may maybe not,
but you don't know at at this point. So, it's probably best to leave everything for one meeting that the board can hear everything at the same time. Okay. >> Um, >> are you in agreement? >> Yes. May I take this with me? >> Yes, you may.
>> May I ask one? This was sent to us. >> All I know is the date of the memo. It was probably never sent to you. >> Was supposed to send it to you. >> It was probably never sent to you. >> Okay. >> Engineering has all your, you know, contact information because they receive a copy of your application as well as
the zoning officer's information. So, I don't know why you have not received it. You're not the only person who's had this issue. >> Norah, do you have a date to carry this application, please? >> March 18.
>> At 7:30. >> Yes. >> Is anybody here for this application in the audience? See if I can. Okay. Thank you. We will see you on March 18th at 7:30. Thank you. >> Yes. One moment.
May we have a motion to vote? >> So move second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. Thank you. Application 2540 Mark tell 18 Jefferson Avenue block 598 lot 25 zone R4 a C
variance to legalize a shed. Contrary to section 430-10 C, side and rear yards section 430-10 1 and section 430-34 columns 10 and 13. This application was
carried from October 29th, 2025. >> Can you raise your right hand, please? Do you swear or affirm that the testimony that you're about to give should be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> State your name by your last name, please. Mark Bell.
>> Okay. So, I understand that you're here about a shed. >> Yeah. I um I my father's a living relative there. So, I took over the house and there was a lot of things that were built way I don't know 40 years ago
and he got permits for c some stuff. Some things were maybe not in compliance. I'm here to try to put this whole thing behind me and change the law. Just whatever I got to do, get this behind me, you know. Sure. Pretty much
the house is kind of a shambles and probably going to get leveled when it does pass. We're going to level it and sell it for the property, you know. So, I just whatever it takes to make everybody happy, I do. And that's where I'm at. Do you have a letter from our
engineering department dated August the 27th, 2025? >> I have a lot of letters. >> Probably not. >> 25st. >> I have another copy. >> Yeah. Sure.
>> Can I ask you a question? How did you wind up here? Did you make permits and they said denied them or were you summoned or what happened? What happened is I believe possibly my my father called
because he's 90 years old. I think he wasn't in compliance with having his um storage shed disrupted. Basically, >> what does that mean is disrupted? >> Disrupted with with uh I had a friend
that had nowhere to go. A friend of his son's friend lived there for a month, you know, in the back in the shed. >> Okay. >> Yeah, it was, you know, it was kind of decent, better than the house. And he he he didn't tell me, but I think he called the town. Numerous times. And instead of
coming to me, I would have kicked him out. I mean, there's only two months that the kid stayed there and um I think he had a problem with it and you know, he's kind of he's 90 years old. He's upset his ways and he wanted his shed back.
So, um I got all these letters and a violation notice and and you know, so the tenant complained to the town about something. >> Yeah. So they came out and said, "Okay, that's in illegal occupancy."
And it turns out your father and father or father-in-law father >> father. Yeah. Living relative. He lives there. I paid all the bills. >> Built the shed without permits. >> He built with permits. >> Oh, he did get permits. >> Yeah. Four years ago. >> But it got turned in into a dwelling
unit somehow. It got a little by little got turned into somewhere where you can actually put your lay your head down. >> There's a kitchen in it. >> No, there's no kitchen. No running water kitchen. >> Why she Why does the zoning officer say there's a kitchen that has to be removed?
>> Not that I couldn't I don't have pictures. >> It's just cabinets on the wall. >> Is there a bathroom count? That's That is something. >> You get permits for that? Nope. You said you were probably going to You
said probably going to raise his whole property, correct? >> I'm probably going to just sell for the property owner. Yeah, it's going to get bulldozed down. >> May maybe maybe he lives there. He's a living relative, so you know, it's still his. >> Do you have Do you have zoning
violations issued to you? Do you know >> like a two kitchens or something like that? It's only because somebody was sleeping back here for a couple months. That's why he pulled. He just want his face back. >> This is a code enforcement case.
>> Oh, >> so there there is summon is out there someplace. Ari violation notice. >> Violation notices green sticker on this door. Violation note violations. That'd be the
construction >> like maybe like a second second family is >> Yeah. convert to the garage into a house of dwelling. >> So >> So obviously everybody's, you know, the kids gone months and months, you know,
right away what I found out he's gone. He moved on. So, I know you haven't seen the letter from the engineering department, but the letter from the engineering department discusses having to make um some modifications to deal with storm water runoff.
>> I saw I remember getting that letter which is I don't understand what to do about that. Well, the what we normally what the board, I'm sorry, normally recommends is that you talk to the engineering department about what that might mean in terms of a storm water management measures.
Um, I take it your father wouldn't be interested in demolishing a shed, correct? >> Yeah, I'm sure he's all about the shed. That's why we're sitting here, you know, >> has he got anything in it now? >> Water. I don't see because nothing's been going to land. How long has this
shed been there? >> Oh, at least 40 40 50 years. Built that many years ago. >> Let's say four. >> I'm 54. And yeah, I was about 10 years old. He started building. He built one
and he built another one and connected it two. So, it's like an L shape. But he got permits for the foundation, the structure, and everything else. I think afterwards after all the permits and the approved and all that he went built an overhang maybe in compliance to something I don't know everything is
still 6 ft from the fence line you know well according to the information that the board has it's not 6 ft from the fence line it's 4 and 1/2 ft from the fence line so that's how I take the saws off what could happen if I
>> you said it was it was two sheds combined Yeah. >> Can you take away one of the sheds and still leave? >> No, it's all it's all together. >> The survey doesn't show two >> connected. I forgot the survey. >> I'm looking at it as well.
>> And it shows it as shows as one dwelling, but originally it was two dwellings that so far together. >> Wait, you had two right now? It was two small sheds and
then he put the quarters in to make it like an L like it's just a shed. >> I I think picture of the house. >> Let me interrupt a second. I think you I think you're in the kind of the same circumstance as the applicant before
you. You got to be able to deal with whatever the engineer is telling you about drainage. But I think you also have to go back to zoning >> and find out what has to come out of that >> uh what was a shed quote
>> extra dwelling. >> If you look at the survey, maybe the overhangs are what's causing it to be too close to the property. >> No. >> No, you don't think so? >> Maybe in the back. Yeah, I guess you're right. >> Because there's Sorry. >> Yeah, cuz there's overhangs that that
protrude from the wall of the shed. Correct. And those are closer to the sideline, right? >> Overhangs are quite warm. >> Yeah. >> And they're on the side as well. >> This survey kind of wraps it around. Yeah. >> Whatever. >> That may be what's >> that may be one of the issues.
>> One of the problem. >> If you look at the bar scale, it looks like that back overhang is more than 6 ft from the property line, but we don't have any dimensions. So, get that straightened out. But I think you you just going to go around here in circles
and your your long range plan is to raise everything on this property and start over. >> Yeah, basically I was just going to sell the property. >> All right. Uh >> I just want to comply now so I don't get >> We're going to Sir, we're going to get a
date for you to carry this application >> and uh speak to the engineering department and the zoning department. Okay. >> And uh we'll get a date for you right now. Norman, do you have any one sec? >> Yes. >> I I have one question. There's a smaller
shed in the back. Is that the neighbors or is that yours? The little >> on the little ones. That That's the rear neighbors. >> Okay. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't on top. >> Yeah, that Well, I don't know why it's on. >> I have a question. If you look at the survey, it shows concrete in front of
the shed. >> Yes. concrete walkway. It's just a walkway. There's a little pond there and there's just it's all a walkway. >> And then you know you see the big circle that's just a rock wall. Like he had crazy rocks everywhere.
>> He had people living in there and he improved it to make it >> more attractive to live there. >> There's no question. There's no question about that. I think what you have to Yeah. >> I think what you have to do is take pictures of what it looks like now.
>> Okay. >> Come back here, tell what you're going to remove. So, it's no longer going to be set up into an apartment. And two, get straight with the engineer.
>> Okay. >> You might have to take some stuff down or take some stuff out to get your coverage down. If you get the coverage down 5%. You you're you're not going to have you're not going to have any drainage or storm water problems, >> right? So, I mean, you see the circles
and whatnot. That's all rock garden is. It's just a pathway. So, I don't know if that's part of the problem with the storm water that we can't >> talk talk with the zoning officer on how they calculated. There's a chart in here, >> correct? >> And I don't want to take up everybody's time going through that. I'm on what
they included, what they didn't. If there's things that you can remove to get it down, you heard the advice. >> Do whatever it >> you get out. You get out from under the engineers issue of storm water management and then you all you have to do is deal with the zoning office.
>> Okay. >> Laura, may we have a date to carry this application, please? >> March 18th. >> At 7:30. >> Correct. >> Mr. Tell March 18th. 7:30. May I have >> March 18th? >> March 18th.
>> And you'll grant the board um extensions to approve the application. Correct. >> So before then, I'll talk to an engineer downstairs, right? >> He's in another building up. >> Oh, they're they're above and over. >> Well, no. You want to talk to the zoning officer first
>> to determine whether or not you can get the coverage back to existing which then relieves you from the engineers issue. >> You don't have any neighbors complaining about storm water. >> Don't care less about it.
>> Okay. >> It's been there for years. Just a suggestion. >> Excuse me. I'm sorry. >> Just a suggestion. We should clear up cuz you're the zoning officer is saying there's a kitchen in there. >> Yes. >> He's saying there's not. We have to make sure that the information is all
consistent. >> That's why I say he needs to take pictures of what it is now, >> right? It's going to be a countertop, you know, like a set of >> components for the kitchen. >> I'll take pictures of the whole surrounding area and rock.
>> Yes. Okay. That's the way to do it is stick. >> Yes. >> May I have a motion, please, to carry this application? >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Mr. T, we will see you on March 18th. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you. Application 2566, Jenzing 252 Marcella Road, block 215, lot 12, zone R4, a C variance to legalize a paver driveway, paver walk,
and concrete area for two AC units contrary to section 430-275X and section 430-35 5, column 13. >> Raise your right hand, please. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony that
you're about to give should be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but >> Please state your name, spell your last name. Make sure you use the microphone. >> Uh, my name is Jing Jen. Um, last name V N. Could you please bring the microphone a little closer to you so we can hear you
and the audience can hear you, please? >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Could you tell us what you'd like to do with your property? So I did this uh driveway pavers um summer in 2024
because my driveway was old. So I um uh replace it with uh it was asphalt and I replace with the pavers and then I add a uh pathway to the backyard and that passed the I think the percentage of the
limit of percentage for the coverage >> impervious coverage. Yeah. Yeah. >> Did you this again? Same thing. Did you review the engineer report? >> I don't have engineer report.
>> There's a letter from the engineering department dated November 21st, 2025. >> We have a copy here for you. Our attorney has a copy for you. Uh-huh. >> Yeah. It Yeah.
>> Did you receive this? >> No. >> So, the report talks about needing to do some storm water mitigation efforts. So, you might want to ask the board to move your application to a new date so
that you can talk to the engineer from the township and determine what that might look like in terms of what you might have to do and how much it might cost. >> Actually, this is like a 3 4%. >> Yeah, it's very concerning.
>> It is a minimal. Maybe we will see. >> Sure. What? Whatever the board wants to, >> right? Mix. Doesn't look like >> Do you know how much you expanded your driveway? >> How much I expanded?
>> Yeah. Did you tore up an old driveway and replaced it with pavers? >> Yes. >> Did you make it bigger or No, >> not really, but mostly the pass the additional uh path to the backyard.
>> Yeah. I mean, because it's such a small increase, you may not be looking at um significant cost to deal with storm water. And you could take it ask the board to
approve this subject to the township engineer approving a storm water management. The risk there of course is if the town engineer requires
an elaborate system that's very expensive, you're not going to want to do that and you'll be back here again figuring out how to find a middle ground. So if you take the extension,
your driveway is there now, right? Yes. >> Done. So if you take ask for extension to meet with the town engineer to resolve the drainage issues, there's no um no follow because you're
already using your new driveway and your walkway. And if the engineer says, "Okay, this is all you have to do." Then you come back at a new hearing date and tell them what you did >> and
there. >> So I would suggest you do applications of you know >> ask for an extension meet with the town engineer find out what you have to do in terms of storm water and get get a new date.
>> It's not new. >> Yeah. It's only 3.8%. 8% over. >> That's what I'm saying. I don't know what the engineer would all of a sudden decide, but why even take the risk? You've got everything in place now as it
is. Find out what he wants to do in terms of mitigation. Go back and say, "Now we that's all that." In in all honesty, it could be just as easy as taking back part of this walkway back towards the house and just
putting soil back there and just making the walkway shorter. But that's that's just a conversation to have with the engineer. It may not be that may be 3% if you go back if you pull some of the pavers out. It may give you the 3% and you'll be at 40 and you won't need a variance. So, but that's the that's what
he's saying. If you talk to the engineer, he'll give you exactly, you know, the footage you'd need to lose to cover it for that 3.8%. >> So, I definitely need to change this design. >> Well, or there or put a storm water
mitigation system in and that will be what the engineer will tell you and it could cost you a lot more than removing some of the papers. But again, that's why >> that's why talking to the engineer is probably your best bet. >> Just reduce the amount of papers that are there. Yeah, >> that's your conversation with the engineer. This is what the board is
suggesting and the professional is suggesting. >> So, we will carry this application with your approval. >> Speak to the engineer and they will tell you what you have to do and just as our board members said, you may not need a variance if you reduce some of the
pavers. But that >> you won't know until you speak to the engineering department. >> And also you can explain what is the deck. Deck has a like a Obvious is decades like a not fully covered right the water goes through it. >> Yeah.
>> So if you can explain no go ahead. >> Did you agree with what our board is saying >> to carry this application after you speak with the engineering department see what they say and then you can come back or you may not have to come back at
all. >> Oh they will tell me. Let's let's have a date in case you have to come back. We'll carry your case. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Okay. Engineering department. >> Yeah. They'll give you the best information that make it the easiest for you, I would assume. And then you make a
decision from there. Like I said, it could be something very simple as removing >> I don't know >> six six feet of pavers, three feet of pavers. >> We can't I can't figure that out. I wouldn't know exactly how much. But just by doing that you might hit the 40%
you're allowed >> instead of 43.8 and then that comes off and then I think there is the setback issue right >> there still. >> Yes. >> So the setback I mean that's another conversation. >> Sorry I I just a little confused. So is
this like where I >> apply for permits >> or department? You have to go to engineering department. >> Okay. Because >> talk to the engineer. >> You talk to the engineer. >> Okay. >> We will give you a date. >> Okay. >> If you have to come back,
>> speak with them. See what they suggest. >> Okay. >> Okay. Nor may we have a date, please, to carry this application. >> March 18th. >> 7:30. >> 7:30. >> So, you want the board to carry this till March 18th, right? And you give the board extensions to make their decision. Correct. >> Yes.
>> Okay. >> Motion to carry this application. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Second. All in favor? >> I present. We will see you on March 18th. Speak to your engineer. Speak to the engineering department and maybe we won't see you again. Okay.
>> But we'll see. >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Somebody actually did what they were supposed to do. >> Application 2569. Danny Sanchez, 108 Long View Avenue, block 574,
lot 17, zone R4, a C variance to construct a pigota, outdoor kitchen, inground pool with coping, patio and equipment pad, basement stairs, stepping stones, and 4ft high fence contrary to
section 430-35, columns 8 10 and 13 and section 430- 101. Is that 10? >> Sir, are you involved in the application? >> Um, I got the letter. >> Are you a neighbor?
>> Yes. >> Okay. Just for now, just have a seat back there on the on when when it's your turn, we'll we'll call you up, okay? >> If you want to ask questions or make a statement. Okay. >> Sir, can you raise your right hand, please? Do you swear or affirm that the testimony that you're about to give
should be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> State your name, spell last name. Please make sure you use the microphone. >> Danny Sanchez. S A N C H E Z. >> Is there anybody else here with you today? Architect, engineer, anything like that?
>> No, just my >> So, why don't you tell the board what it is that you want to do? >> Well, I just purchased this home um in August. Um it was a brand new construction. Um and um I purchased it with the idea of
it being my forever home, my retirement home. Um hopefully a home that can stay with my family. Um so I wanted to, you know, have it similar to I had it in a previous home. Um with an ingground pool, um you know, have the whole backyard set up for my my kids and also
do the basement pretty much myself. So, um pool for the kids. Um with a kitchen outside and little area, seating area. Um and then, um the basement just like a theater, game room area with, you know, gym, stuff like that. Just complete the
the the basement. >> Same thing here. Did you review engineers report? >> I never got a engineer report. His report speaks to a drainage system that he seems to think is satisfactory.
>> Yeah. >> My concern is there's a note on the bottom of the zoning offices report report dated November 12th. It implies that the basement is going to
become an apartment. It implies >> the applicant is proposing a wet bar, full bathroom, and separate entrance to the basement. >> Yes. >> A basement, apartment, or multifamily dwelling has not been proposed.
Restrictions should be placed on the basement for future use. >> Okay. I mean, what what restrictions? It it's it's not going to be a multi-family. It's going to be for me. Uh it's going to be my it's my dream home. So, I want to do like a wet bar theater with popcorn and stuff. It's not
an apartment or anything like that. >> Have you done that work yet? >> No, I've done nothing. Um, and I started this in August and the companies that I'm going to be using have submitted applications and it keeps getting rejected for different reasons. So, they kind of just said you handle it. So,
that's what I've been doing. >> So, one did anybody give him a copy of this one? >> I can. that the >> people well according to this but does he know he's >> so if you want to read it real quick I
just have a couple questions on it cuz >> the way it's worded seems like you either spoke to somebody about it or they spoke to you it just seems like you know what >> they may have spoken to >> okay so yeah your your guys your contract
>> one of the guys here just take a second to read it and then Yeah. >> All right. So, did you know about those items previously or you just kind of >> um I was aware that they were already planning on putting, you know,
mitigating system. Okay. >> I know there's already one in the front of the house from the new construction. >> Okay. >> Um they even said you may not even have to do as many as we proposed because of the one in the front. Either way, they said we're going to put like four or six tanks in the back to mitigate anything and you should be, you know, covered for
that. But that came from one of the uh engineers working on the design of everything. >> Okay. And then the other one is the soil moving permit. >> Okay. That I would need that. Okay. That's not an issue. >> And then the fourth one says there's limited space. So just kind of discuss how the contractor is going to get in and out of the back.
>> Yeah. They they measured and they based on the they have they said it wouldn't be an issue. So >> Okay. And then the tree removal tree >> just getting the permit. >> Yeah. >> Um >> I mean he says he's got the mitigation system in the front already. That's
probably why the 49% is covered with the one they're proposing. >> Yeah. >> Those stepping stones that run from the front door all the way along the side of the house to the back patio area.
Those are really going to be stepping stones. Correct. >> Yes. >> You're not going to have a concrete walkway. >> No, they're stone. >> Are they there already or you're putting them? That's typical. >> I don't want to have the issue that everybody else has been having. I haven't touched a single thing.
>> Good. >> I'm trying to do this by the book. >> No, but that's appreciated. >> Yeah. I think that's the one the one thing we should do. >> Yeah. >> Only condition is that >> basement cannot be another
>> residential. >> Another one. I'm sorry. the condition >> that the >> basement 100% fine. >> What's actually going to be in the basement? Why don't you tell the board what's going to be there? >> Um, uh, a theater, um, my gym, um, a
full bathroom, and a sink so people don't have to go to the bathroom like wash cups and stuff like that. >> So, no cooking appliances? >> No, nothing for cooking. >> Dishwasher or >> No. No. >> Refrigerator? >> No. >> Um, maybe a fridge or a mini fridge. Um
but no other than my basement. Don't tell anybody. >> Just my a man cave basically for me. I'm retired now. So I'm I'm >> No, we have to ask this officer put a note. So we have to make sure. >> Is there a bedroom in the basement?
>> No. >> I mean Okay. We obviously put those stipulations in the >> into the into the resolution. We'll put in there that it can't be turned into a another dwelling. Anything. I'm okay with that. Any
members of the board have any questions? Is there anyone in the audience? >> Those are the stepping stones. >> Stepping stones are along the side. >> Oh, yes. >> And by the pool area.
>> Have you discussed any of this with your neighbors? >> Yes. uh neighbors to the rear of me and to the right of me. Um I discussed one of the trees cuz it's pretty much right on the border and he said take it if you need to. He said a couple of trees were
already removed when they built the house cuz they I mean they gutted completely and built a brand new house. Um and the neighbor to the rear I was going to let him know I was going to do a fence and he said uh before I even tell him he said please put a fence there. There was a fence there before they knocked it down to build the house.
Please put it back up. I said I already planned on doing so. Yes. >> The pavers in the back right to the rear of the house. >> Yep. >> Are those set in just sand or do you know? >> Do not um where it would be set in
>> between the house and the pool. >> Between the house and the pergola. >> How they would do it? If the board stipulated you can't crowd them, do you have any problems with that? >> I don't have any problem. >> Mr. Speak, >> is there anyone here in the audience
that would like to speak? Question. >> I on your survey. It shows a wooden fence, I guess, on a neighbor's property. >> Um, yes. >> How high is that fence? >> Six. All the fences um that are there,
there's two. There's one that's wooden by the neighbor right to the left of me. >> Yeah. >> And it leads into a 6ft privacy fence by the neighbor. >> Does he have a pool? >> He does not. >> He does not. >> Um ne neither have a pool. And it's a
vinyl fence in the back. >> I'm just going to copy the same type of fence. >> Are you going to have a fence on your property? >> Uh there was a fence there, but I guess they took it down before I bought it. Um but there's nothing there. You have any you have any >> you you're going to have plans for fencing that area? >> Yes. I mean with the pool there have to
be fenced in. >> You have to have a pool compliant fence. >> Yes. All right. >> I'm I'm a little concerned about the area between the fences is going to >> Yeah. It's no man's land. >> It's like no man's land. >> Going to have to get a lot of weed killer.
>> I dealt with it at my previous home, too. So mosquito. Is there anyone in the audience that would like to comment? >> Sir, do you have questions of this of the applicant, >> sir? Come forward.
>> This is your chance if you have questions. If you want to make a statement, >> I want to Well, I would like to make a statement. >> Okay. Well, just just give one second. >> These are for questions only on the applicant's testimony. See
>> anyone have any objections to this application on the testimony that this applicant has given us? >> Sir, you want to make a statement? >> No. >> Okay. Come forward. Sorry. Just I don't want you to feel like you can't say anything.
>> Mhm. Not a problem. >> Okay. You have to um raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony that you're about to give should be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> I do. >> Okay. H have a seat and make sure you use the microphone.
>> Okay. >> Thank you. >> State your name and spell your last name. >> My name is My name is Joe Korki. I'm a resident of Lake. Can you spell your last name, please? >> Kicki. K A L I C K I.
>> Okay. And where do you live? >> 15 Ash Lane on the southern border with Mr. Sanchez's property. >> Okay. What what what what would you like to say? >> Okay. I um I'm not really here to
dispute anything or anything like that. Uh I'm here I'm looking at this and this would be a vast improvement over the property what it was and what it used to be and I'm
sure it'll be very very nice for the neighborhood and everything else. The one concern I have is drainage. I have no problem with water.
Now, according to this, there's going to be a lot of construction. I suddenly don't want to find myself with when it rains that my property is way lower or whatever and the water is just flowing
over. I don't have that situation. As long as I don't have that, I have no objections. According to the township engineer, the plans that have been proposed include measures to mitigate storm water runoff.
There's some, I believe, seepage system to prevent water from unnecessarily running off into neighboring property. >> I see. I understand. >> Okay. >> So, that would Well, I have a I have a question.
What is um What's a pergola? >> I think it's pronounced pergola. >> Is that a gazebo or something? >> Similar to a gazebo without a >> Oh, okay. All right. I didn't look it up in the dictionary.
>> Okay. Well, you know, if you were Mr. Sanchez is assuring me that through the engineering and everything, I mean, I won't be suddenly indulged with on a rainstorm. All of a sudden, I got Niagara Falls coming over. I have no
problems. I wish him all the luck and everything like that. And I respect him as a neighbor. >> I I I think I think I got to tell you, he's probably one of the few that come in here that has the answers right off the bat, has a plan in place, you know,
and we have to hear the case. And he looks to me, and I think everybody will agree, he took the neighborhood into consideration when he >> went through with these plans. and and and you're lucky to have them. >> Okay. >> Absolutely right. >> Just I you know I just want to make sure
that you know because the way the properties are we are til it is tilted coming down Long View. It tilts down going toward Lakeshore and there's a very slight incline but
the water does flow that way. So the way it goes, the way it works now seems to be okay. So I wouldn't sudden and with all this building which would be very nice by the way pool to this to that above
all of a sudden I wouldn't want the water to go and I and I have to put on waiters to go through my driveway or something would get upset. >> Something tells me if you have an issue and talk to him. >> I have no issues with water. >> Okay.
>> But I used to live on 35 Rocka Away Boulevard. >> You don't live there anymore, right? >> No, >> don't worry about it then. >> Okay. And there was issues. >> All right. >> Okay. >> Somebody else is >> No, that's it. As long as the township uh
>> approves of it and the way it's to be done, I'm very and it will be done correctly, I'll be satisfied. >> Okay. Great. Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. Is there anyone else in the audience? Okay. that would like to come forward.
>> I see none. Would one of our board members like to make a recommendation to approve this application and frame a resolution? >> I'll take I'll take that one as soon as I find my sheets so I can frame a resolution. Um, all right. So, I'm uh I think what you
did here and and our our town engineer, Mr. Chadwick, made a comment before he even came up that somebody finally did everything the right way. um what you showed us tonight, what you had prepared, what you're willing to do. Um it's what we look for and you know,
regardless you having to come here, you did what you needed to do. Um I'm in favor of this 100%. >> All right. >> Agree to what? >> Yes. So, did you hear the um recommendations? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, you're okay with all of those?
>> Absolutely. Member, please. >> All right. Application 2569 Danny Sanchez 108 Long Hugh A block 574 lot 17 zone R4 recommend to approve a C variance to construct a pergola outdoor
kitchen inground pool with coping patio and patio equipment pad basement stairs stepping stones and 4ft high fence contrary to section 430-35 columns 810 and 13 and section 430-10
I um what are we >> the condition that the stepping stones are not not going to be turned into a walkway >> that the basement will not be used as a separate living area. There'll be no cooking appliances or dishwashers or bedrooms in the basement and that the
pavers between the house and the patio will be set in sand not grouted. Do you like to say that? >> Second. >> Second. >> Nara, please. >> Bullets, >> yes. >> Yes.
>> Ready? >> Yes. >> Gani, >> yes. >> Um, Nigglia, >> yes. >> Application has been approved. You'll be receiving a letter and at that time you can go forward with your permits. >> Thank you. Thank you all. Enjoy. Good luck. Welcome to town. Enjoy that.
Application 25 col 22 Desai 39 Pit Road block 422 lot 2 zone R3 a major soil moving permit.
>> Okay. Can you raise your right hand, please? Do you swear or affirm that the testimony that you're about to give should be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but truth? >> I do. >> Yes. State your name is by your last name, please. Uh my first name is DHS, last name is Desside D E S AI. And
>> you first name AI and last name this side D E S AI. >> Okay. Now, uh you were here last year and now you're here for your soil moving permit. Correct. >> Yes. So last year I had a zoning um
variance C variance and at that time the the major soil movement was brought to my attention and according to you know we did the grading plan we did the topography survey and I brought those uh
plans here uh and the board suggested to you know I was in the plan there was a plan to make a retaining wall of 3.5 ft high and the board suggested to you know bring it down to under 3 ft. So I did that I went
back and revised the plans and engineer approved those plans and he basically approved the permit at the time and then I got this notice again. >> No at that time I remember board
suggested to take the soil permit. Yeah, >> that's right. I think you you must have gone to that. >> Do we have a report back from Lisa? >> There's not a new report. The last report, I think it was in July that had everything in it.
>> That was for the shed, I think. >> No, no, that was an earlier one. >> There were two um >> Oh, you mean the the the engineer report you're talking about? >> Yeah, the engineering report is July 17th, 2025. But I believe the application that that the sides were
here the last time was in reference to the shed. >> Correct. >> Has the shed been built? >> Uh I mean the the permit was issued for the shed and I'm waiting for you know someone to build the concrete pad.
>> Not yet. >> So now you're here for your soil moving permit. >> Uh correct. And that's addressed by the July 17th letter. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Which basically says, "I have no other concerns." >> Yes.
>> If you recall, the last time he when he when Mr. Mr. and Mrs. Desai made the application, they didn't request the soil moving permit at that time. >> And so you guys didn't address the soil moving permit. You just address the shed. >> That's why you had to come back
>> to address the soil moving permit. >> Yeah. they they would have applied the same time to save the time, >> right? >> But it didn't make it more time. >> It didn't make it part of the application. So, >> okay. >> And I understand you you um you reduce
the wall height, correct? >> Yes, I do. You find that tricky. >> I don't know if Mr. Lo, if there's any comments on this. It's hard to It's hard to read. >> It's a little small. >> Yeah. >> I mean, I you I normally don't review these. Again, the engineer normally
reviews these uh and he's acknowledged that the changes have been made. He's not making any further comments about uh grading issues or draining drainage problems. I mean, there's nothing in that uh July 17th to suggest that there's anything uh a miss with the with
the with the application. Um, >> I would assume, would you not, that if there were issues with respect to runoff onto neighboring properties, he probably would have made a comment about that, >> right? That's the whole purpose of having the saw moving so that people aren't, you know, moving, you know,
redirecting water and such. >> And I would assume that the there's a topographical survey included in the application. I would assume. >> Yeah. I'm looking at a grading plan prepared by GB Engineering and I could see there's propos you know it's it's a a fairly comprehensive topographic
survey. Uh it shows where the wall is. Um it shows uh some proposed grading. So it it seems like this is you know a a complete application and it looks like the engineering department has reviewed
it. Looks like there might be a little bit of a swale on the left side of the house that directs water towards pit row. Do do you see? >> Yeah, there's a swale. >> You see what I'm talking about? >> Yeah, the swale comes uh >> Tom. Do you have this one?
>> Yes. But that that's the property survey. That's the existing condition. >> Okay. >> The other one is the grading plan. You'll see uh the existing uh topographic contours are a dashed line. Gotcha. >> And you'll see a solid line sweeping
back. One of them has a a 387 and a box attached to it. That's a proposed contour. >> So, it looks like the plan is to try to direct water towards the road. >> It's it's basically keeping it against that sideline, the left side line, and
it's showing that it's it's pitched toward the road. Correct. >> Not onto the neighbor's property. >> Correct. Do we have any additional questions from the board? >> No. >> Is there anyone in the Is there anyone
in the audience that would like to speak on the testimony given by this applicant? >> I have a question. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Come forward. State your name. Just by your last name, please. >> Hopkins. >> Um, so >> just use the mic just so it's on record.
So, how many yards of dirt are being brought in for the whole project? I mean, you have the dirt that was dug out from the addition, but how much additional yards >> as per what this uh grading plans >> do I I don't understand like I know
there's a lot of dirt back there that raised the property 3 to 5t and then I know that I saw a truck come in with 10 yards of dirt and I just I'm I'm curious how much more. Um and also like >> wait one just ask one question at a
time. >> Okay. >> So I guess the question that's pending is do you know if additional dirt is being brought to the property >> in accordance with gr the grading plan? >> Okay. So additional dirt is being brought to the property. Correct. Yes.
>> Do you know how much? >> It's probably under 100 square. the the grading plan by GB Engineering shows a net cut of 200 cubic yards. >> Yeah.
>> Which means it's 200 the net result is 200 yards being removed from the property. >> Yeah. >> And I'm I'm going to I'm going to guess here because they may be removing soil but then bringing in top soil. >> That it wasn't top soil that was brought
in. It was um it was dirt. Well, again, it's it's a net. The plans are showing a net cut. So, they may be bringing out material that's maybe too much silt or clay. It's just not good material. >> Yeah, I don't know. I I've seen rocks
removed, but that's about it. So, so and also there's no tops, which means the property is going to be higher. >> Well, again, the engineers has has not questioned, you know, in his review, and it shows that it's a net cut. I'm just going by what I have here because I have I'm not I don't review these normally.
>> Okay. Yeah. Um I'm not sure how much I trust the uh uh >> construction guy. All right. The second question is what type of drainage will be used to allow water to soak into the ground rather than creating puddles or going into the street?
>> I mean it's it's what the drainage is >> that doesn't all it shows is a swale. What's what type of drainage? uh whatever engineer proposed in there. >> So there's >> now's your chance to ask questions if you have a comment.
>> Well, so I'm trying to figure out what the So the answer is there is no drainage. >> No, there's a drainage as per the grading plan. Uh I mean grading plan shows everything. That's for the engineer review. And here >> there's no pipes. There's no French drain. There's no dry well. There's just
a swale. >> That's all I can see on there. >> No, I I don't know what you see, but I'm going by the grading plan. >> So So what does it what does it say? >> Yeah, I mean it's you can ask engineer what you know here is the grading plan.
>> Let me know our engineer is there anything that in the art plan? Well, again, I I haven't reviewed this in detail. I have reviewed plans like this. Um, and basically the
soil moving permit. The reason towns require a sawmoving permit is so that they can review if a sign if a significant amount of soil is being um uh moved >> either taken in, taken out, whatever
that the resulting uh surface is not causing a problem. particular, but drainage is what you usually go for. Yeah. >> That we don't have slopes that are too steep and not you can't stabilize them. That there's no water going in any, you know, in a in an inappropriate direction. So, and again, the July July
17th letter doesn't seem to have any issues um with how this is being graded. Um that's all I can you know that the whole purpose of the solar perm is to make sure that we don't have issues. >> Oh, okay. Actually the grading shows that it is going
towards the pit road slope slope is going on the street right >> based based upon the July letter he's satisfi the engineer is satisfied with it and I'm looking at this >> um and it it appears that the that the water is being redirected
>> uh right in the exist in the original condition the water went off to the left side >> from what I can tell and now it's coming once it gets to that left property line it's redirect cut to the street. >> Okay. >> That's what it appears is happening here.
>> Yeah. So, so between the wall and the swale, it's keeping it off the left side. >> Correct. >> There's no piping, drywalls, or anything proposed. It's just >> not that I can see and not that that's mentioned in the report. >> Yeah. Not not >> I'm just waiting for the >> We'll get We're going to get there.
>> I'm done with >> Okay. Questions. Anyone else have any questions of this applicant? I see none. Anyone would like to make a statement in regard to this applicant, please. >> Sure. Now, you have to be sworn in. Do you swear or affirm the testimony that
you're about to give should be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> Yes. >> State your name again. Spell your last name, please. >> Lanna Hopkins. >> What's your address? >> Uh, 25 Pit Road. >> Okay. Make sure you use the microphone. >> Oh, 25 Pit Road. >> Okay. What would you like to say? Can I
hand out two things? >> We're going to mark those. >> Are they all the same? >> There's two >> two sets of things. >> Take one of each. >> So, two copies of two different photographs. >> So, we're just going to mark nor if we could mark one 01 and one O2.
>> Thank you. >> Okay. Do you want me to make statement while you're >> Well, if if you're going to rely on the board looking at the photographs, wait till they get distributed >> so that they can have them in front of them when when you tell mey's all over this.
>> Yeah. >> Sometime pass the rest down. That way we're not >> Oh, they're looking at it. Okay, this is for you, sir. >> Okay, we're good. Do you get a copy? I got a copy. We got a copy. >> There must be enough going. >> There is enough. Yep. >> You got to grab one.
>> No, I need two. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> We got one more. One more. >> Got one more. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> So, you live directly across the street? No, I to my property line and their that
along that edge. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, so mine is down the hill from them. >> Y >> that white fence is mine. >> Right side or left side? >> This is that's their house. This is from my house. >> Oh,
>> so your house looking from the street right side to the left of the the eye house. >> Yes. >> Understood. >> Okay. So, as stated prior, I'm opposed to the raising of my neighbor's property by 3 feet. It creates both privacy and drainage issues for their neighbors.
According to the drawing submitted by the neighbor, the wall is a maximum of 3 ft, but the property rises to approximately 5t in the middle that makes it feel like they're in our yard. We spent a significant amount of money working with a landscape designer to
mitigate both uh privacy and drainage issues created by the rise in their property level. In the picture provided, the one with the trees and boulders. Yes, that one. Um, the boulders are on my property line.
Uh, the puddle is on their property. Uh, due to our being in a permanent drought in New Jersey, it makes sense to want that water in uh in the ground, not the street. Um, at the very least, a French drain with permeable pipe and possibly a dry well to manage the water is
warranted. >> So, the row of trees is his yard. He's put a bunch of arborite along the side of your property facing your fence. >> Correct.
>> Well, you've also put evergreens on the inside of your fence. Correct. >> Right. So, yeah, I spent a lot of money on evergreens and other stuff. So, that's that's the maple tree that's like 10 ft off the fence. And you can see
that the 10yard dumpster is dump dumping dirt. Y >> on November 8th. Um and at first I thought it was possible, but it actually just and that was done on November 17th. And I believe the permit must have been
pulled on November 18th. Um but they had the permit. They got the permit uh for the nature soil movement in October of 2025. >> When you guys voted yes on the shed, engineering decided that meant that you
voted yes on the major soil movement. So they gave them permit and so they then put in the wall and did the rest of the work. But then on the 18th everything stopped of November. So um
>> actually the applicant is here for a soil permit. >> Say that again. >> Applicant is here for soil moving permit. That's what they're here for now. The permit for they got the major soil moving permit in October
because um and the permit was then pulled. So I don't know what happened on November 17th, but on the 18th or the 17th it was pulled. on the 17th that dirt was delivered and I had gone to engineering saying there's more dirt being delivered
and they said go talk to the board and she said they have to get a major soil movement permit but it had already be been given because engineering said when you voted on the shed you voted on the major soil movement. So engineering had apparently
must have pulled that for me. No, no. This we discuss here in the last application time about the soil >> that they needed to get it. >> They needed to get it. No, >> she's saying that they gave them a permit when they should act cuz we didn't approve it. >> They assumed we approved.
>> That is uh not not the board jurisdiction. How was not >> uh >> has that wall been extended since you took this photograph? >> Uh The third wall.
>> Yeah. >> Uh that is as far as it goes. >> It stops there. Okay. >> It stops where my tent stops. >> Yeah. That's where >> because of a drainage thing for for the wall for some reason is on my property. Not exactly sure what that's about. But >> is that a drainage that
>> that seems to be when you put in a wall apparently. I was googling how you put in a wall and what this is. So at the back of the wall and at the front of the wall is that permeable uh uh pipe um that I guess stops a buildup
of pressure against the wall with water so it allows it to come through. Uh but like I said, for some reason >> Yeah. It's on top of the rock. >> Yeah, the rocks on that. >> Okay. >> So So I I don't think the work is completed. >> No.
>> Um >> from the looks of it, it looks like where that puddle is is where the swale is going to be. I think this one has to be on the other side of those trees. >> Well, if if it's on the other side, then more of it's going to wind up going onto your
onto your side than Well, that's being stopped by that anyway. It looks like your property is higher in that point. >> Now, >> yeah, right there. But I looking at the the the grading plan, it looks like that swale is going to pick up right where
the wall ends and raise that up where that puddle is and kind of direct it back towards them and then towards the street. So as it goes towards I'm I'm no expert. I'm just assuming as it goes towards the street, it'll be picked up by the the trees and the rest
of the soil that's there. And then I again I'm not an expert. I'm just that architect >> before you know. >> Yeah, this is because we we took steps to uh I spent a lot of money with the
landscape design. >> Yeah, this is >> I think a French drain would be appropriate. Dry well would be nice. >> I know, but this is all engineering review, right? So I mean I'm not an engineer or
>> whatever is appropriate. >> The the issue you have is the township engineering office is the uh person that has jurisdiction and approval or disapproval. At this point
we have an appro letter of approval. >> They've given a letter of approval >> with with the plan that they handed in. They've adjusted the new plan, the grading plan. They've not said that they still need >> So, so what happens when it's not okay
for the people next to them? I mean, like I said, I I think they shouldn't have been allowed to leave the dirt from the construction. I don't think they should have been allowed to raise their property by 3 ft. I don't think any of this should have happened, but it has.
And they, you know, the last two times I talked about that they'd end up the roots of my trees, six feet off and, you know, 10 feet off of the base of my large trees. Um, >> yeah, that's all done. That's all done.
I can't undo that. But they can deal with the I disagree with engineering because engineering is not >> the intent. >> Mr. Have you sat down with this neighbor at all to try to discuss your issues? >> Uh there is no discussing. They want
what they want. >> I I asked >> I asked you a simple question. You have tried to >> in the very beginning they came to the house when I was upset with the digging and they came to the house and they said any issues you have let me know. The wall will be a foot oh no two feet off
the off the property line. Come to find out they didn't have any permits. And so after that I didn't respond to that because I didn't trust that. >> Mr. Lman, do you see the photograph with the arborites in the wall? >> Yes. >> You see obviously you see the pooling of
water, >> right? >> It seems to be if you look at the proposed grading plan, you see the swale on the left side of the property, >> right? This picture looks like it's taken if you if you come to the front left corner of the property. Yep. And
you see uh eyepipe found and you go towards the rear right where the wall ends or the wall begins. Actually, you can see that there's a fence perpendicular to the wall going to the neighbor's property to the left. So that's what that's where that picture's taken, right? >> Mhm. >> Basically the street
>> right where the water is is sitting is right where it says swale and it looks like 38444. So >> the date that you took these >> pictures could just give. So I'm looking at the photographs and
it's it's clear that um the fine grading is not complete. >> Um we don't have top soil. So >> but if you look at the my question to you Mr. Lo if you look at the proposed grading plan and if if the grading is
done in accordance with the proposed grading plan the water that's shown pooling in this photograph isn't supposed to occur. Correct. >> Correct. Again, once you get the fine grading complete and and and they rake out the site and put the top soil in, do
all that stuff, the intent is to have that water uh run along the property line to Pit Road. >> Got it. >> So, it shouldn't pull like that anymore once the grading is done. >> And again, once the grading once the top once it's lawn, you're going to have
less runoff because right now when you have bare soil, the water runs off easier. Once you get the lawn in, more water is caught by the lawn and it's infiltrates and whatever. Um, so they're they're really not done yet. No.
>> Um, I mean, I have some question about why you would plant a bunch of vites when you're not done with the grading, but that's right. Another corner. >> Well, yeah. >> Um, they may have been I don't I don't know. I can't I can't speculate. Um, >> she's mad about late grades.
>> But, but, but would you agree though that if it's graded if the final grading is in accordance with the proposed grading plan, then this pooling of water should not occur? >> That is that that that's correct. If it's done in accordance with the plan
that the township engineer approved it, the water should run to Pit Road. And and you're saying less of it'll make it to pit road when the grass and everything is in. >> Yeah. Once they're finished, >> right? >> We didn't do uh You took these pictures. >> That's
>> You took these pictures. >> Yes. >> On such as your date >> December 19th. >> The one with the dirt uh was November 17th, 2025 and the other one was December 19th. >> Okay. And you haven't changed your
altism, correct? When it's done, it should Yeah, >> it should work. >> And we have to go by what the engineer is saying and what the um the grading plan that is in front of us.
>> Are there any other questions from the board? Um, anybody else in the audience? >> And anybody else in the audience that would like to come forward? >> No. >> Do you understand that the finished product when you're done needs to be
done in accordance with the grading plan that's been submitted? And if it's not and your neighbor still has problems, she's likely to advise people in the township that she's still having problems. Do you understand that?
>> Yeah. Yeah, I understand. >> Okay. >> One of the board members like to make a recommendation to approve this application and frame a resolution, please. >> Yeah, this is a reasonable application. This is part of the previous approved application. They forgot to request for
the soil moving forward maybe. And this is reasonable and I'm in favor of this application 252 DHS and Aani Desai 39 road block 422 L
to zone RDS3 to grant a variation to permit >> to grant the soil moving permits. Oh >> yeah. Major Sil moving permit. >> Second. >> No. Second. >> Burkowitz. >> Yes. >> Nazarella. >> Yes.
>> Neglia. >> Yes. Ready? >> Yes. >> Bringi. >> Yes. >> Application has been approved. >> Please. Your neighbor is quite concerned about the runoff. Um just as our attorney said follow what the
>> engineering department has suggested and uh we may go forward with the permits once you receive the promotion. >> Thank you. >> Architect plan. Yes. >> Yes. >> May I have a motion to adjourn the
meeting please? Motion moved. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> thank you. Good night. Can Can we take like two seconds here? >> Yes, please. >> We need to do something about these engineering. >> I'm calling the engineering department tomorrow >> cuz >> Okay. We need we need to have them so we
don't have to applications,