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County Board County Commission 10:00 meeting of January 20th, 2026. At this time, silence all electronic devices and mute your phones. Please rise for the invocation pledge of allegiance. Good morning. Let's pray.
Oh, Father, we have come together today and looks like we have a long and busy agenda and a lot of people here who want to be heard. And so I would ask that you give us ears to truly hear and that
you'll give us wisdom, understanding, and discernment. So any decisions that are be that are going to be made will be made in accordance with your will and in accordance with what truly is best for the people in our county. So I thank you
for your presence today and ask that you guide and lead us in all the things that we do today. And I lift this in your name. Amen. >> Amen. I aliance to the flag of
the stands nation under God indivisible and justice for all >> eating my house right now. >> Mr. Clerk, please call the role. >> District one, Commissioner Oakley here. >> District two, Commissioner Wakeakeman
present. >> District three, Commissioner Starky here. >> District four, Commissioner Joerger >> here. District 5 Chairman Mariano >> here. >> Now is a time for public comment. Citizens are given an opportunity to comment on any current or future agenda item coming before the board and any
other business on the board's purview. Today's public comment will be handled as follows. First, we will take public comment for those who are here in person. Then we'll take public comment for those who are pre-registered for a WebEx link and currently on Q. We ask we ask when you address the board comments
are not directed at personally against the commissioner team member but rather directed at the issue. This provides mutual respect between the board members and the public. After stating your name and address for the clerk, a threeminut timer will be activated and a green light will be
shown in the podium. After two minutes, a yellow light will indicate you have one minute left. When your time is up, a red light will be displayed. Three beep beeps will sound and you should close your comments. WebEx participants will be disconnected automatically when their time is up. Uh I'm just going to take a
little step out of our normal procedure. Um I know we got a lot of people from Heritage Pines here and I'm going to bring up uh Chase Daniels to be the first speaker of it as we go forward. And I just want to let everyone know for the first time in my 21 years we actually have an agenda consent agenda
where not a single item is pulled. one of if if anyone here from sheep pines is worried about environmental land that property will be moving forward. So congratulations Mike for bringing that and thank you Chase for coming forward. Chase Daniel. >> Hey sir commissioner uh Chase Daniels Pasco Sheriff's Office uh under sheriff
community outreach. Uh so commissioner thank you very much for uh for bringing forward. I I know um you know certainly there's a lot of uh concern that you'll hear today in Heritage Pines especially regarding uh trespassing, ATV use, gunfiring, uh loud music in an area known as East Pits. Uh I can let you know that the sheriff's office has been
very very well aware of uh of this concern. Uh and last year we started uh special details on Friday and Saturday nights every Friday and Saturday night in April, May and June. Uh unfortunately we did not see a a lot of improvement. So we restarted those in September,
October and November. Uh again unfortunately we did we did not see a a lot of improvement with that. Um I will say that the property owner has been um very very good to work with. We have a trespassing agreement in place. the property owner also had had an extra duty detail and has provided us side by sides uh to allow us to get out into the
woods. Um so I do want to give uh credit to the to the property owner of this area. Um throughout those operations, you know, like I said in in April, May, June, September, October, November, we largely focused on traffic stops and trespassing violations. Um we issued numerous of those and those were just
out of the special details. Uh not to include the calls for service we also responded to there. Um, however, unfortunately over the holidays, we did see an increase in this. Again, um, I know Commissioner Mariano and I both received numerous emails. Um, members of our command staff and I met with uh, Mr. Hurley, who is uh, the general manager
of Heritage Pines, and I believe you you also hear from him today. Um, and kind of walked him through our our plan as we move forward as well. Um, with that, we now have uh, ramped up our efforts even more out there. Uh, so for this month, we have had daily operations out there. Uh, we have also started using our
unmanned aerial systems. We have used electronic sign boards to advise people whenever they are coming in and out of the property on the major thorough affairs that they are trespassing and subject to uh arrest or or other violation. Um and we also continue like I said with those now nightly patrols out in that out in that area as calls
for service allow. Um so we are certainly aware of the problem doing all we can out there. Uh I will say uh I have received emails the last two weekends that things have drastically improved. People reported being able to sleep through the through the night and through the weekend. Um, so seems like the efforts are are making a positive impact out there, but they're certainly
something we're going to continue over the next uh several months as we work to uh to reign in this this issue. >> Well, Chase, as the enforcement as the enforcement u office, we greatly appreciate you stepping up and listening to the residents and taking the actions you've taken. So, thank you. >> Yes, sir. Thank you.
>> Our first person signed, Andrew Bloom. >> I have a petition here. May I file. Second. >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Your name and address for the record, please. >> Andrew Bloom, 17109
Heritage Pines on uh Wheatfield Loop. Wheatfield Loop. Heritage Pines. >> Ready to go. >> Go ahead, sir. >> Hello to all commissioners, especially Commissioner Mariano, our district's commissioner, participants, and observers. My name is Andrew Bloom and I
I'm a board member of Tall Pines Village, a village within the Heritage Pines community in Hudson. I am here at the request of our board president and other officers and residents of numerous villages in Heritage Pines. Also, the
general manager of Heritage Pines and HOA president are well aware of our presence here and have encouraged our participation. I have amended by originally planned comments in light of recent developments. The last two weeks have
shown a noticeable improvement to bringing an element of peace to our neighborhoods. For months, we've been subjected to intolerable noise and gunfire disturbances in close proximity to our homes. Thanks to the efforts of the sheriff's office and county
commissioner Mariano, we have had a relatively peaceful couple of weeks. I say relatively. That being said, gunfire and off-road off-road vehicle distractions were still heard, especially near the Spin Drift Loop
vicinity in our community. However, I understand that they were of a shorter than usual duration. We hope that this reduction in illegal disturbances continues until they are non-existent. We hope as well that this is just not a
brief respit from monster truck-like noise. the random nearby firing of automatic weapons, illegal party gatherings, and the setting of bonfires and drought conditions. We are here to ask that a lasting permanent solution be found to these
problems. As recently as approximately three weeks ago on New Year's Eve, there was a huge gathering close to our homes, replete with automatic weapons firings, loud music, and the roar of enhanced sound vehicles. This was our New Year's
Eve three weeks ago. All I've just mentioned about New Year's Eve is substantially similar to what we have endured over the last number of months. These frequent disturbances have been lasting until as late as 4:00 a.m.
in the morning for months. Last but not least is a loss of value to our homes. Many of us are of an age that we have to consider moving to an assisted living facility. These facilities are not cheap.
Others plan to bequeath their homes value to their children or grandchildren. Unless these disturbances are eliminated, the fair price sale of a wide swath of Heritage Pines homes will be jeopardized. This would have a rippling, depressive
effect on home values in the entire Heritage Pines community. I speak as a retired real estate broker and appraiser. We do appreciate the recent Are we done? >> Yeah, we're done. Okay, wrap it up. Thanks. We appreciate the recent efforts
of relevant agencies and individuals over the past two weeks, but again, we ask that a permanent solution be found. There is little doubt that these illegal activities will resume if a longlasting solution isn't implemented. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Please don't please don't clap. Please don't clap. And and if you've again, if you heard Chase Daniels and this gentleman, I think you were very eloquent and very accurate. Uh we are on it. We're going to stay on it and and get you peace in that neighborhood. But
anyone else want to speak? They still can. >> Tom Cecil, >> I will defer. >> Thank you, sir. Uh I'm going to go ahead and pick up others that had signed up under Heritage Fines. Her hurley. Good morning. Herb Hurley. Um 1463 East
Monopoly Loop in Inest, Florida. I am the general manager of Heritage Pines. Um good morning, commissioners. I want to thank you for the opportunity to speak today. Um as I said, I am the general manager of Heritage Pines. And before addressing our concerns, which we all know what those concerns are. I want
to thank Sheriff Noco, Chase Daniels, Sergeant Paul Downey, yourselves, the commissioner, also Barbara Riyles, the property owner, for all their work they have done in responding to our concerns, their continued presence. professionalism, responsiveness, and addressing trespassing and noise
violations have not gone unnoticed. We are grateful for their efforts and their commitment to public safety. While we appreciate those actions that have been taken, I'm here on behalf of the residents because the nuisance conditions continue on. Despite the enforcement efforts, sorry, residents
are still experienced ongoing disturbances, including excessive noise, repeated trespassing, and these issues are not isolated. They're happening just about every weekend. Heritage Pines is a well-established residential community and our residents take pride in maintaining a safe and
quiet and respectful neighborhood. Unfortunately, the continued activity coming from the property to ourselves undermines those efforts and has become a persistent problem to our homeowners. We are not here to place blame, but rather ask for continued attention, coordination, and support from the
county to help bring about a long-term and sustainable solution. Our residents simply want the ordinances and regulations already in place consistently enforced so that everyone can so coexist peacefully. On behalf of the Heritage Pines residents, I respectfully ask that the commissioners
remain engaged on this issue and to assist in identifying additional measures that can help prevent these ongoing nuisances from occurring. Thank you again for your time and consideration and for your continued support of our community. Uh, next person signed up was Alan Rose.
>> Your name and address for the record, please, sir. >> Good morning, Alan Rose, one221 Hilltop Drive, Newport Richie, 34654. And what? Anything else? >> That's all right. Okay, go ahead. >> Good morning. It's I'm here to just to
address the our riparian flow throughout West Pasco County. It's really becoming an issue along with the rest of the waterways. So, West Pasco County uh central flood basin has been created by impairing our riparian flow through the
h hardening of our perimeters on the north state road 52 on the south side uh ridge road east moon lake road and west uh little road. Water can flow in but it can't flow out. The south portion of the
basin as the riparian flow is moving through Rocky Sink spillway, Tanglewood spillway, Hidden Lake spillway, all bringing our our riparian flow to the Coti River then out to the Gulf of America. The north section of the of the
basin all flowed to Bear Creek and then out to the Gulf of America. local government. Most recently, last year or so, they adjusted the flu future land use without consideration of our water flow producing a central flood basin
within West Pasco. Local agents will tell you they have engineers handling storm water uh for this reasonzoning and development. The engineers do a great job, beautiful designs with uh retention
ponds and everything. They handle the pollution issues so well yet they do not address the riparian flow of water causing upstream flooding and many other issues. They do comply with the EP needs for this and that's why we do have the
impaired basins is because of the water not flowing and we have pollutions. So now all of those basins hold the pollutants from going into our waterways. Still we have the impaired basins. So, uh, Crangers, Bass Lake, Golden Acres, Hidden Lake, Oyola
Heights, Griffin Park, Timber Oaks, Beacon Woods, Cemetery, Shady Hills, West Moon Lake, Waters Edge, River's Edge, all communities directly affected and are now having flooding they haven't had before. We've always had some
flooding. We have a lot of wetlands, but because of the lack of flow, our our riparian flow is not functioning at all. and uh it's just causing a lot it's going to cause a lot more issues. And if we continue to neglect this, what's going to happen is you're going to
you're going to have a a flood basin going from 52 all the way down to Trinity. And you know what Trinity is because of the lack of addressing these issues that the spillways, the streams, we're not having any maintenance done and it's it's really causing flooding.
So the more you develop and we're good with development, but if you can keep the riparian flow, it can handle all that development. If we're not maintaining the the riparian flow, all this hardening and all this development that we want and we we can use up here, it it's going to flood out. The next one
upcoming is going to be Tanglewood. Tangle Woods because of the future development coming up. The water's going to be pressed over there and Tangle Wood spillway is is impaired right now and not functioning properly. So you're going to now have everything Golden Acres, Tangle Wood flooding out and then
going south. >> We need to wrap it up. If you would before you leave, talk to Brford and talk to him about the cross connection we can make from um your area over to Timber Oaks where we can make that flowway connection. It could could help a lot for that area. It could. >> We have work on Magnolia Valley, too. But if you would talk with Brford.
>> Thank you. >> Thanks, Mike Garren. Good morning, Michael Durant, 4927 Ky Court, Port Richie, Florida. I'm also here today to talk about the impaired waterways of the Cody and Anlo
River Delta. Uh, this tri tributary uh to the southwest of our county has experienced rapid development uh in the past 10 years. that drainage experts uh couldn't even imagine. Uh I've experienced it firsthand. To give you a
little background, I'm a retired Coast Guard helicopter rescue swimmer for 21 years. I've dealt with numerous hurricanes uh to include uh Ivan, uh Katrina, Rita, uh and many more. So, uh,
after, uh, last year after Hurricane, uh, Milton came through our area, I was called, uh, by a friend of mine, uh, who was in a panic who was, uh, over at the Seven Springs and 54 area who had 3 ft of water, uh, on his roadway and it was
coming up uh, behind his house of the Enclo River Delta. Uh, he asked me if there was anything I could do. He heard that uh during that week I was pumping out uh all the pools in my neighborhood along the Cody River from Hurricane
Helm. So I said, "Sure, I'll give it a try." So I drove over in my truck over to Highway 54 in Seven Springs where I had to stop because there was water reaching the road. Uh from there, I took a kayak and my deatering pump that pumps 120 gallons a minute and I paddled into
the neighborhood in about waist deep water. Um, after about 6 hours, I was able to pump the water from the back of the house to the front where the street and the the proper drainage was so that uh he got very minimal water in his
home. But I mean, we had sandbags. Um, it it was pretty amazing to see that much water uh and the lack of drainage. Um, so, uh, with that being said, uh, uh, none of these residents have flood
insurance, uh, that went through that, uh, and they're not in a flood zone, but I mean, they had a good solid 3 ft of water. Um, I'm asking that, you know, we look at these areas, uh, these residents don't have flood insurance. So, you know, when that happens and they lose
stuff, we know FEMA kicks in and then flood insurance goes up for everyone. Um, we need to invest uh our money into our impaired waterways. Uh, the storm water uh carries pollutants that go to the Gulf of America. Uh, we
must invest, you know, some money now because if we kick the can down the road, you know, labor and materials are going to be way more expensive. Uh this will provide cleaner waterways to marine life, keep residents safe, uh
keep our flood insurance costs down, and for prevent people that uh don't or aren't in a flood zone to become in a flood zone. Uh and uh All right. Thank you. And if you could, thank you for your service, but if you would talk to Brford, I would
like to get that information from you. We're going to be going to DC coming up. We've been working on anclo for a long time. I want to use what you just said. Yes, sir. And I have video and pictures that I'll provide you >> if you would talk to Brandford. I'm going to use you to go further with it. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Mr. Starky. >> What neighbor, Sir, what neighborhood
were you referring to? >> Um, it was along uh 54 and Seven Springs. I couldn't tell you a sign. I could get the address. >> Hideway. >> I I believe it. It was hard to tell that, you know, there was waste deep water, so I wasn't really looking around. >> Um,
so >> I'll be around. If you stay here for through commissioner's items, which we should get to this morning, right? >> Yeah. >> We we will talk about uh cleaning up the rivers because we have the money for it. Yeah. >> We have a grant. >> We did that the la last time. There was
a big flood. So stay stay tuned and because we don't really engage during commission, but I'll ask questions. >> Thank you, Rick Rager. Mr. Your name and address for the record, please. >> Good morning, commissioners. Uh, Richard Ragger. Most people call me Rick. Uh,
11422 Heritage Point Drive in Hudson. I live in the, uh, Heritage Pines community. I want to thank all the HP people that are here. I certainly support everything that they have said today, but I just want to talk a little bit about Road. uh for about 20 years. I've been an I've been a resident of
Heritage Pines for about 20 years now and I've been an ad advocate for expansion of County Line Road. In fact, uh I I call it the forgotten road. Um several years ago, I started a petition in Heritage Pines and several hundred people signed that petition and that petition was given to the proper
commissioners both in Hernando and Pasco County. Uh since then, not much has been done. Uh some improvements, but basically County Line Road is a dangerous road. It's it's a it's an outofdate two-lane road. It's heavily trafficked. Um, god forbid you get
somebody uh in front of you that's making a left turn because you could be backed up for a block very easily. Um, I've since I've been here for 20 years, I've seen a lot of expansion on roads 54, 52, even 50 in in Hernando County.
Again, that's why I call our road the forgotten road. Um, I would ask all the commissioners that consider this a countywide project and get together and work with the Hernando County commissioners to move it up on their priority list because I understand no
construction is planned for about seven years. I think that's shameful. This is an important road for not only HP residents, but all all the folks that travel up and down um countyline road to try to get to the toll road. So, nothing would make me happier than to expand
that road all the way to the toll road. And and I can stop calling it the forgotten road. I'd rather call it the Jack Mariana roadway. >> No, no, no. The county commissioner's road. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> No clapping,
>> please. Bill, >> the dirt dog. >> Dirt dog. >> Good morning. Yeah, I'm the dirt dog. I'm Bill Ashinba, founder of Ashinba Land Company in 403 South Willow Avenue in Tampa, Florida. And uh I'm here today
to speak for two land owners at Sea Pines in US9. And I just really want to thank the commission first of all for having us up here today. Looks like we're on the consent agenda. I want to thank your staff at Elamp. They worked really hard. Walked through uh water out there one day with them up to our knees
just to checking the property out. They've done a very thorough job. So, we're happy to be at this stage and we hope that we continue the process. I want to be off here while my green light's still on. So, I want to yield a couple minutes back to everyone, but hope you support the couple hundred acres out there that go perhaps into parks and help control flooding in that
whole area of Sea Pines and US 19. So, pleasure to be here. I just wanted to show up and I'm so happy to be on the consent agenda this morning. Thank you. Have a good day. >> With no polls, >> Robert Castro Robert Castro, uh, Barbara Riy.
Hello, I'm Barbara Riy. I live at 4601 West San Miguel Street, Tampa, Florida 33629. I am the owner and manager of DCH timber property, the 520 acres which is in question. Uh the land has been owned by
my family for over 80 years. And I'd like to first start by thanking Commissioner Mariano. He has been a great partner and a great advocate for trying to solve this problem um with the trespassers. Uh, I'd also like to thank the Pasco County Sheriff's Office who
has worked so closely with me and uh there are many officers that have been involved in patrolling this this parcel and they have been absolutely great to work with. I have paid over $34,000 over four years to for offduty police
officers in trying to increase the patrol of the property. And then the Pasco County Sheriff's Office said, "You know what? it's really not working and you're wasting your money because one officer can't do what we need done. We need uh larger groups of officers to
come out there. Um I offered a and wrote a check for an ATV um for Pasco County Sheriff's Office in attempting to provide uh additional equipment that they might be able to use to patrol my property and other property owners. I
feel for any property owner who has these trespassing issues that that just can't seem to be solved. I paid thousands of dollars for trash which has been cleaned up on the property that have been left by the trespassers. I purchased Pasco County signage uh from
the sheriff's department in order to have official trespassing signs. Of course, what's the first thing a trespasser does? They take the sign down so that I have to go back and replace and replace and replace. I um I I would uh unfortunately the property at 520
acres is just too large to um to fence and these people seem to be so aggressive that are going on my property that I have no doubt that they would immediately just take down the fence. I just want the commission and I'd like the residents of Heritage Pines to know
that I stand with you in trying to solve this problem and I will do anything that you ask me to do in order to make it better. Thank you, >> Barbara. Thank you. Before you go though, this is s such a big issue. Just take a quick moment. Um, and I know it's been a difficult and I've been pushed with the idea about should we look at
fencing it and I I agree with you. We've had our own areas. We've even faced our own county property. They cut it, they go through and they tear it up anyway. So even you put a fence up that we link, they go through and it's gone anyway. But I'd like you to consider if you would Keith's in the back of the room there. Um, we're buying some
environmental lands over in Sea Pines. We just mentioned this is a property that we actually looked at. We thought we great to preserve it as well. uh if you would talk to Keith if it gets nominated, we'd be happy to take that process and then we can do something even more so to to protect the property and protect the residents and then take
care of you as well. >> Great. Thank you so much. >> Thank you, >> Cheryl Orchard. Yeah. And folks, please don't clap. Thank you. I would like to turn these in >> to receive file.
>> Second. >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> Thank you. My name is Cheryl Orchard. I live at 6719 Manor Beach Road in Green Key. I'm here today because we have terrible issues in four streets where we
live. from US19 down to Se forest. We have wooded areas. They're occupied by the homeless people. They're out. We have gunfire going on out on the island at the end of Manor
Beach. We have trespassing. Now we have houses. By the way, I want to say this. It's good that the permit thing was issued. I think it's a good thing when that flood come through. We had 51 inches.
I'm elevated. It was still a mess. It was still a lot of work. Me and my husband did it ourselves, but we also helped the neighborhood. I thank you for getting in there and get some of the trash out of there from what everybody lost. But it goes deeper than that. The
trauma that it has caused on some of the elderly people. And not even the elderly people trying to restore that neighborhood. They put their heart and soul in that. I had an 89year-old neighbor that lived in her house with a
light a light with batteries with no walls. I'm telling you, the people are trying. But we got houses in there. And I got to say this, and I know some of you are investors, but I'm going to tell you something. Our LLC's that are in there,
they buy these places cheap. They turn around and there's been some that has hired people to come in, let them have it rent free for a year and they didn't have to pay rent and they were the worst neighbors to have to live by the
condition of the the the property and it's a nice house. I don't know if that house ever got inspected, but we got one at the end of the street. I called code turned around told me they weren't in the lawn service business. Yes, I'm going to say you gave me an email and
yes, I did call code. My response from code was, we're not in the lawn service business. I said, "Well, it's ratinfested." Well, we're not in the exterminating business. Okay. So we ourselves looked up the owner of that property and we drove to
Spring Hill and we took that went to my husband went to the door and a teenager come to the door and he said yes that's my mother's property. So then I sent a certified letter she never picked it up. Okay. So after Christmas I mailed her a
Christmas card with not a return address. I'm sure she opened the Christmas card and I had all the information inside. We've done what we can do in there. The waterways are going to need to be fixed from Anklo all the way down to Crystal
River. We need barrier islands to stop some of that water from coming in. But we thank you for listening and I put you a booklet together. You can see the rest of it. Thank you. >> If you would, if you would, Cheryl, before you go, talk to David Allen and Brford. Uh there's actually a property we looked at on Green Q we're trying to
get and I think with David maybe you can help you talk with the uh the residents out there that were damaged by those storms. We've got uh community development block grant disaster recovery money which might be able to help those people that don't think there's help. We might be able to help them. So if you talk to those two gentlemen, >> we need road help.
>> We're going to work on that too. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. And >> Gary Costa, >> why is there cool air down here? Feel like there's an air conditioner under this table. >> Good morning. My name is Gary Costa, 10729
Myro Vista Drive in Port Richie, and I'm here representing Worship Life Church. and in consideration of uh trading four lots that we have purchased farther down um on Hedges Road in the Moon Lake
community area and our church address is 10936 Moon Lake Road. Um the lots that we would like to trade are four lots that are right south of our property line in the purpose of uh gaining more u
parking area for our congregation as it is continually to uh enlarge and grow which is a good thing for us. So, um I'm just we're just here asking the commission commissioners if they
would um consider the trade. Um, I have the lots here that we purchased and the lots that are south of us from the county and um I um we have uh spoken with Commissioner uh Joerger as she is
our commissioner in our area and um it would be very beneficial to us and very much appreciative if the board would consider doing this for us. I thank you. >> Gary, if you would. Andrew Bax is right there ready to talk with you so he can
take the information and take it from there. >> Okay. Thank you. >> That's the last that we had signed up in advance. >> Okay. >> And we have none online. >> Okay. Did anyone else want to address the board for any other topics before we close it out?
>> Okay. Come forward. And if anyone else would like to speak to this ladies, please please get behind her. Oh yeah. >> Your name and address for the record, please. Ma'am. >> Hi, my name is Grace Robvelino. I live
at 7901 Rainree in Newport Richie in Magnolia Valley. I am the current president of Magnolia Valley. And just wanted to um thank you, Lisa, for attending our annual meeting um last week. I just wanted to let everybody know who I am and know that I'm
representing them going forward. Um, we have a lot of concerns and we are ready to address them and I'll be contacting um Paula later so I can address um address some concerns regarding the sidewalks in Magnolia Valley.
>> But other than that, just a greeting. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Wonderful. >> See how she's wearing a coat? It's freezing in here. I'm about to put a coat on her legs. >> It's too hot. your name and address for the record, please.
>> Jim Ael, 11818 Spin Drift Loop, Hudson, Florida, resident of Heritage Pines. I just want to kind of put an exclamation mark on what everybody's been saying. I'm in my 23rd year now in Heritage Pines, and where I live on Spin Drift
Loop is right up against the fence line where all of the activity takes place. I moved in the day before Thanksgiving in 2002. And about 2:30, 3:00 that morning, my bedroom, which is on the back end of the
house by the fence, lit up like Yankee Stadium in a night ball game. And the vehicles and the partying and the music that started was unbelievable. And I had to say, "What the hell have I done with myself?" you know, if this is a regular
occurrence. Well, it is and has been a regular occurrence. It was alluded to before that sometimes it's Friday and Saturday night that this takes place. I beg to differ. This takes place during the daytime.
whenever there's a a weekend usually, but during the week if it's nice weather, these vehicles are out, the people are out, the parties start, and they'll go on till 3:30, 4:00 in the morning. Uh
my granddaughter is a investigator for the state attorneys up in Tallahassee and her husband is a SWAT officer for Tallahassee Police Department. Been there a number of years. They were here back in June and they called me up in
the morning. They was staying at the house. I was staying someplace else and they said, "What the hell is going on?" 4:00 in the morning, this noise, this racket, my god, you know, it was terrible. We couldn't sleep. And, you know, even the little kids, you know, my
great grandchildren were were awakened by it. So, this is something that uh that goes on. It's not a two-day a week event. It is a seven day a week event depending upon the weather. I don't know if these people have jobs. I don't know what they're doing out there at the wee
hours of the morning racing around in their vehicles, but they're there and it is something that just need to be contended with. In a letter that I sent to Sheriff Nakco back in December, I said to him, "If your mom and dad, you
know, had moved into this property, unbeknownst to what was going on, that this problem would come to a screeching halt. You know, you wouldn't tolerate it if your folks were living there." And I say that to you folks as well. That's
it. Thank you very much. Appreciate >> you and for all the >> serious issue. It's a very serious issue and something we've been looking at. I will say I've been in the past couple of months getting emails from 8:30 at night, 9:30 at night, Saturday nights, whatever. One morning I woke up at 2:30
a.m. and I decided I'm going to start sharing everything right now with and I want to say from the reaction and and what you've been going through getting worse or whatever, I want to thank the sheriff's office for actually putting the extra effort. It's a short-term quelling of the situation. We're going to look for a long-term solution,
though. Well, I had a meeting uh a week ago Tuesday with the sheriff from the uh star team for the sheriff's office and I was very encouraged by what he said and I just hope that uh everybody follows through on it. >> We're going to we're going to keep working on it. We're going to work with
Barbara and see what we can do with Keith and and try to make some things happen that will give us a little more control over everything and then we can get stronger with what's going on out there. >> Excellent. Thank you very much. >> Thank you all very much. Good morning. My name is Larry Boscarina. I live at 11536 Baronwood
Court. I agree with everything everybody's saying with the ATVs and the gunshots. We have a new problem that just started about a month and a half ago. Had people move in and with farm animals. >> So now we're dealing with roosters at 3:00 in the morning. Oh. >> And geese and chickens and who knows
what else is going on back there. But in and on top of everything else what everybody else has been talking about that's been going on. >> All right before you go Denise Sanderson is here. Denise see Denise before you go and she can address that. >> Okay. >> Correct. Thank you. Appreciate your time.
>> All right. Anyone else here for public comment? All right. Thank you very much. We're going to close public comment. No one's online. >> We have no one online. >> Okay. We're going to close public comment. We're going to go on to a resolution for early learning day.
for a minute. >> Ladies and gentlemen, we would ask that you leave the room quietly so we can move on. Okay. >> Resolution number 26103, a resolution of the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida.
>> Let's let's bring the person up for the resolution here. >> Lisa, who's here for >> Steve Noble. >> Come on out. >> All the way in the swing around. >> Come around the end. to get out of it. Get any place else.
>> That would have been swimming upstream, huh? Once again, a resolution by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, declaring January 26th, 2026 as allin for early learning day in Pasco
County. Whereas a child's first five years of life are critical to healthy brain development, future learning, and lifelong success. And whereas highquality early learning programs help children enter school ready to learn, build strong social and emotional
skills, and support families in fostering their child's growth and development. And whereas Florida's early learning educators play a vital role in preparing children for school and life, serving as dedicated professionals who
nurture curiosity, creativity, and confidence. And whereas access to affordable, highquality early learning strengthens communities, supports working families, and contributes to Florida's economic prosperity. And whereas the statewide
awareness program campaign allin for early learning unites families, educators, businesses, and community leaders in champion championing early learning as the foundation for success.
And whereas recognizing and celebrating early learning raises awareness of its importance and reaffirms our commitment to ensuring every child in Florida and Pasco County as the opportunity to thrive. Now therefore, be it resolved by
the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, that said board hereby declares January 26th, 2026 as Allin for Early Learning Day in Pasco County and encourages citizens, businesses, organizations, and
institutions to join in celebrating our youngest learners, their families, and the educators who inspire them. done and resolved in regular session with a quorum present voting this 20th day of January 2026. >> Move approve. >> Second.
>> All in favor say I. >> I. >> Commissioner Jger. >> All right. Well, first of all, you know how much I love your organization. Um what you guys do is amazing. You equip the preschools with the tools they need. You make sure the kids are getting all the services they need. the parents you
come and wrap around them, give them the resources they need. If they want help finding a great preschool, you can tell them, "Hey, this this one, you know, got written up for this or this one's great." Um, you help them out financially when it comes to um based on
your income. The teachers, you guys, um, educate the teachers and you're always doing supports for them. And even in COVID, you guys were paying the teachers to take classes. You were amazing. The learning never stopped. Whether it was
virtual, I I just can't say enough about what you what you guys do. And as parents of young kids, if you guys don't know about the Early Learning Coalition, check it out online because there's a there's a wealth of knowledge on there. So, thank you very much for everything
you guys do. And, you know, I love coming out to the preschools and reading to the kids. And >> thank you, Commissioner Joerger, and all the commissioners. I I know all of you for a long time and I know you're all um deeply invested in early childhood. Um so I'm not going to stand up here and
rattle off a bunch of facts that hopefully most of most if not everybody in this room knows and understands how important our youngest citizens are to Pasco County and and society. So thank you all for recognizing this day. And uh we're that's this is only the third
commission so far in in the state out of 30 early learning coalitions to recognize this day. So thank you for doing that. It means a lot to not only our staff but all of our uh board members. We have 25 board members and Commissioner Hager is one of those. So thank you all.
>> Very good. Commissioner Oakley. >> Yep. Thank you for everything you do. Our our youth are our future. So, we realize that and very much support all all the learning we can give those young people that's coming up to be the the
future of the county, Pasco County. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Mr. Whitman. >> Thank you, Steve. You and your team, thank you for giving parents and kids a chance. You know, most of the time you're dealing with with those folks who are trying to figure out how to get their kids to school, have a decent and
safe place to stay and and go to work. So organizations like yours help those families and help those kids and those parents be confident and become confident human beings. So glad you're here today. >> Thank you, >> Mr. Turkey. >> Well, I missed the whole thing. Um but
um if that's was it the early learning coalition? Yeah, I used to serve on that. So um great seeing you again by the way. I haven't seen you in a while. So yes, thanks for all you do. You know, getting the kids off on a good start is everything. Is everything. So, I'm really grateful that we have an
organization like that. You been there a long time. I didn't see >> I'm getting a little gray. That's nine years now at um >> Great. >> It's great though. Enjoying it. >> Congratulations. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. And I just thank you. The organization is critical. Uh someone
who's got a grandson now and another one on the way is like and I and I know the great benefit I got with my wife being able to work with them, going through everything to to get them a running start, help with their education tremendously. So, uh, seeing it from firsthand, uh, fully fully supportive of
what you guys are doing and it's important. >> Thank you. >> I think we all going down for a picture. >> Yep. Now I've got two. So after I do this one, just hold tight for one sec. Okay, the next item up is the consent agenda.
And I want to say Mike Carmela and your team, congratulations. And then like I said, 21 years, the first time we've ever had a consent agenda with absolutely no pull. So that's worth a round of applause, right? >> Are you sure you don't want to celebrate
C29? >> Mr. chairman. Um, for clarification only, uh, items C1 through C4, uh, I'm sorry, C1 through C12. Just for clarification, those minutes are for approval where the others are, uh, C1417
for distribution. And we're going to be I'd like to come under old business kind of to discuss the process so we can maybe cut out some things on the consent agenda going forward. >> Okay. All right. We have a motion for the consent agenda. >> So move. >> Second.
>> Second. >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Okay. >> Chuck's here. >> So I've got a time certain for 11 o'clock Tampa Bay Water. I know Chuck is here. Chuck, we can start early if you like. >> I'll be happy. >> All right. No presentation. >> Like that.
>> Tampa Bay Water. Well, uh, good morning to you, board, and I, uh, appreciate your having me here. Uh, my name is Chuck Harden. I am the general manager of Tampa Bay Water, and I've been there for quite a few years. I've been there since 1993. Uh, I
have served the last five years as the general manager. Uh, I did want to thank Commissioner Oakley and Weightman. They actually are serving on our board currently, but also I know uh, Chairman Mariano and uh, Katherine Starky, they've also served many, many terms in
many years, and we thank you for your service. >> And I met Chuck in leadership Tampa Bay >> 2002. >> Oh, and Chuck, I just want to say I was appointed to the board. Yes. >> I would love to serve on the board. Um, it is a direct conflict with the area of
aging. You meet at the same date and the same time. >> So, sadly, I can't do that. >> Well, we'll get you on there soon. >> I am looking forward to it on there. >> Well, Tampa Bay Water, I'm going to tell you a little bit about Tampa Bay Water.
So, for some of you unfamiliar, uh, we were formed in 1998 uh, by the member governments that we serve. uh there's three counties, Hillsboro, Pasco, Panelis, and the three cities, Newport, Richie, City of Tampa, and St. Petersburg. Our mission is to reliably
provide clean, safe drinking water to the Tampa Bay area for not only now, but for future generations. Uh we currently are supplying our members with an average of about 209 million gallons a day of drinking water. um county here, Pasco is purchasing
currently 39 million gallons a day is our budget for them. Uh as a little side note, I started uh in in the county my career uh back in 1987 through 93 and I believe the county was taking about 15 million gallons a day at that time. So
uh quite a difference uh a few years make. Uh our distribution system is shown in this graphic. Uh it includes 13 well fields, a surface water treatment plant that has two water intakes on two different river sources. We also have a
a seawater diesel facility and a 15.5 billion gallon reservoir. Uh all said there's 21 points of connection. That's our meters that we connect to the six member governments. Uh we also u amazing fact is all of that we maintain uh at a
wholesale water rate to each of the members $2.64 64 cents per thousand which is uh a little bit over a quarter of a penny per gallon. Uh our system is very complex. Uh every day we deliver a blend of treated water
uh that is uh river water, del water and groundwater. And to my knowledge it's the only system in uh this country that has those three blends together. Um that is how we keep the the cost down uh to the 264 per thousand uh because each one
of the sources have a different cost. The diesel being the most expensive, groundwater being the cheapest. And we have to keep that into in mind when we're putting together our budgets and our blends. Um the pie chart there you can see uh is what we expect to average with the three
sources in in this fiscal year. And as you note um 56% is groundwater and the remaining 44% is the other two sources. Back in 1998, one of the main reasons we started uh we we formed Tampa Bay Water that pie chart used to be one solid
color of blue and it was 100% groundwater and as you know uh about the water wars that was not sustainable for the environment uh or for the area. Over the years, uh, we have gone through cycles of growth and cycles of
maintenance. Um, and currently we're in a growth phase. Uh, this chart tells you the story. If we compare the 2025 actual demands by members to our, uh, demands that we're projecting 20 years from now, uh, you can see quite a difference. Uh,
we have enough water right now. Um, but over the next few years, we are hard at looking for new uh ways to expand our regional system to meet the demands for the years 2028, 2033 and beyond. The fastest areas of growth are South Hills
County and uh you know this very well, central and eastern Pasco County. Right now, a majority of our capital improvement program budget uh will be spent on expanding our surface water treatment plant. We're also starting a South Hillsboro wellfield project and
we're also expanding our distribution system with the South Hillsboro pipeline. The surface water treatment plant's design capacity uh will be expanded to 145 million gallons a day. Currently, it's 120 million gallons a day. That uh
expansion will allow an additional 12 and a half million gallons a day to be delivered to our members. The plant is considered our workhorse of the system and it is uh not far from the fairgrounds in Brandon. Uh we have uh completed our design and permitting and
construction is starting uh later this month which there's not too much uh longer in the month but we are about to to get started on the work there at the plant. uh hopeful the expected end date of that plant expansion is 2028.
And just recently uh the board approved another new supply and it's called the South Hillsboro. Uh the facility could bring between another 6 and 12 million gallons a day of new water to the region. Uh about half of that water from this
well field is from permits that Tampa Bay Water has acquired from third-party uh permites that did not no longer wanted to to maintain their permits and so we acquired those. Uh the other six would come from credits that we would purchase with Hillsburg County.
Currently they are providing uh treated reclaimed water into uh deep well injections on their coast near Apollo Beach and uh that is forcing uh pressures inland upwards and it's keeping salt water from intruding but that is allowing the additional six that
could be permitted by the the district. We are building the wellfield in phases and uh we are planning to start early next year. Uh and right now we're currently acquiring property. We've also started construction on the
new South Hillsboro pipeline. The pipeline uh shown here on the graph is 26 mi long and it's uh between 3 and 5 ft in diameter. Uh it will also connect uh our facilities to two Hillsbor County water treatment plants. and the pipeline
is being funded by uh not only Tampa Bay Water, but Hillsburg County and the Southwest Florida Water Management District. The plans are to have the pipeline in service by the end of 2028. Uh we also continue to look at projects
for implementation beyond our 2033 uh timeline. We are currently conducting feasibility studies uh for the project shown here on this graph. And uh the plans are to finish the studies and then make a recommendation to our board uh in the year 2027. So probably next year
we'll be coming to our board for the next water supply projects. And as you can see um of the six projects we are exploring projects all over the region. And regardless of the source of uh your drinking water, all the water provided
by Tampa Bay Water meets or surpasses all local, state, and federal standards. The last time I presented to you last year, uh, I let you in on the, uh, POS, the forever chemicals. We were studying them, sampling, uh, along with our
member governments. Um, and the Environmental Protection Agency issued, uh, new POS regulations over the last uh, two years. And so, uh, we have been looking at those. And we have, uh, a study that we have, it's called the regional water quality study. It not
only looks at POS treatment in areas but also the removal of total organic carbon and we'll be making recommendations to our board uh later on this spring. And as you can see in the graph there's uh three stars in orange. Those are the areas that we have uh consistently found
just above that four parts per trillion uh in the Brandon area. There's two wells in Brandon and then there's a our surface water treatment. It's the bigger star. So, we're looking at some different treatment for that and we'll be presenting it to our board very soon. >> Ch a question on that? >> Yes, sir.
>> Um, being that the the wells in that area are bad, would it be better off to even just close down those wells and just drill somewhere else and get credits for the drilling just to leave that component alone? >> Yeah, we're looking at that. Um, they are very important wells to us. It's a
system of five wells out there. Two of them are are the ones that are just above that. Um, also to note, once we pump and blend that with other waters, it's below the four parts per trillion. So, we're looking at that on a cost standby. Uh, is it cost-effective to to
do something besides the treatment as well? So, we're looking at that. Um, that happened to be my last slide and I just wanted to thank you for your time. Uh, I try to get around uh at least once a year to all the members to show them my face and and here to answer
any questions you may have. Okay. I I want to say Chuck's serving with you was great. Um I had a few other responsibilities I was taking on as a as a chairman this year, but um you're well represented and I do appreciate your service for over the years. Thank you, Commissioner Starky.
>> Um has anything happened with the Howard Curran and the uh you know how they have to stop dumping all that water into the bay? What's happening with that? >> Uh haven't heard too much. I I asked here and there. Um but to Senate Bill 64
is what what you're you're asking me where um reclaimed waters cannot be discharged in surface water bodies of the state of Florida after the year 2032 I believe. Um and so there are some communities that have to do something.
City of Tampa has quite the the the quantity. It's 50 million gallons a day. And so I know they're looking at some uh things um around their plant to deep well injection and also um we're talking to them about what could we use it for. You know, I described the the county
Hills County using the reclaim water to prevent saltwater intrusion, but it also turned into a drinking water uh project. One, it was a great idea. So, we're looking at all kinds of innovative ways. Um but I couldn't give you a a direct answer of what they're doing particularly uh with the deadline
coming. You know, I was on the um Swift Mud board. Oh gosh, before I was ever on the school board. So 2002, 2000 to 2006 maybe I was on there. 2008. We were talking about the Howard Curran water
way back then. We were talking about piping it up to Pasco County to rehydrate. It's It's amazing that all this time has gone by and they still haven't done something good with it. >> Man was talking about pumping it south to >> Oh, yeah. The whole county wanted it too. So, Commissioner Oakley had his
hands up. >> Commissioner Oakley. >> Yeah, Jack, I appreciate the uh report you gave. Do you know the actual how much we have in the reservoir at this time? >> It is just around under 10 billion gallons out of the 15 and a half. So,
2/3 full, >> right? >> Um but we are entering the really driest parts uh of our year. We're in a drought. Uh the rainfall didn't occur again uh two years ago. We were in a similar situation. Rainfall was very sparse in September all the way through
today. And I know the our meetings next week and then the following day, Swift's going to be meeting and they're look probably going to be going to a phase two water restriction. Uh I know Pasco County is already there at one day a week. So that should help, but we've got
to get through to the rainy season which typically starts in mid June for us. Yeah, I know when we start one day a week other than the uh two days when you go that extra amount that's like a 30 million gallon savings a per day. It's
it's amazing how much water saved just you know cutting that one day out from watering. So, but um I appreciate everything we've done. But Tampa Water has actually been a great thing for Pasco County and all of its members. uh
it continues to help and we continue to come up with new projects. One of my favorite projects would be another reservoir like the reservoir we have now uh would really um gain a lot of water for the area and for the future of our
area. So, uh, I keep hearing a lot of people, uh, I call them Gmail people, but they they're always saying that every project that comes in drills well and pumps from our aer when it's furthest from the truth. The fact of it is this water's coming through the
system of Tampa Bay water and our county to uh, make things better. We've uh, improved with environmental from before. We used to pump so much out of the ground that we had a lot of environmental issues in our swamps and areas that needed water. And we were
able because the reservoir and the del and other issues, we've been able to cut the ground pumping of water down to to where that environmental issue has kind of gone away. So, it's really been good
for for Pasco County. Thank you, >> Commissioner Wman. >> Thank you, Chair. Yeah, Chuck, good to see you again. I'm excited to get back on the horse. I've I've been following along, you know, regularly, uh, ever since my first time. It's it's
fun to watch, uh, when we improve when I was on the water management district governing board, the funding, uh, for the South County transmission line project. It's really been just neat to be a part of it through its cycles of of
development and and progression. uh when it comes to to POS man I don't know I don't know what the solution is there I mean unless we capture the rain and filter it too because it's being evap those chemicals are being evaporated up and you know
spreading all around the world so that's probably one of everybody who touches water probably everybody's greatest challenge in how to how to control and manage the the POS uh forever chemicals but um you know good work I'm glad we're I think we're getting ahead of it at
least trying and uh all the confidence in the world of you and your team to see see where the uh science of that subject matter takes us. So glad you're here today and thank you for your time. >> Thank you sir. Mer
>> so I am really looking forward to I think I'm what I decided was I'm going to start listening to your board meetings. Okay. >> So then when I'm on the board I'll be like I already know that that is that is what I'm going to do. So, I really look forward to serving and learning all about what you guys do. And could you
email me? I tried to take a picture of some of the slides, but I missed them. Can you email me? >> Absolutely. I can do better. I can give you a a large book of of things for background information if you'd like as well. I got an orientation. >> I want to learn as much as I can. >> Very good. >> Thank you.
>> And I want to thank a few things we've just talked about as well. That four reser four rivers project um you're helping get that conversation going. may lead to a reservoir of of some sort to to help us with surface water, which I think would be much better. Um the you
know, the Howard current plan, I'm glad you brought that up, Commissioner Stark. It's something like when I first got elected was like looking at that stuff and why are we dumping all that water into the bay, they did clean it up a lot. But I will tell you, it scares me when I hear uh conversations about taking this reclaimed water and turning
it into drinking water. I don't know about you guys, but I don't want to ever get to that point. One of the things I think this could be a great benefit and maybe it's a stronger negotiation because I really I'm not crazy about deep well to well injection. I know they say it goes below the aquifer. It's below that, but eventually that water's
got to go somewhere and and do something bad if it's over a long enough time. So I I I do have a problem with that. But with Hillsboro growing as much as it is, as much as we're going on there, uh sprinklers use so much water and we have done such a phenomenal job with
reclaimed water. I wish Hillsboro would pick that up, work with the city, work with Tampa Water and and and help get the funding in place to get those reclaimed pipes through those developments that are coming up as we're growing in the area. So be it. And and long ago, we actually talked about, you
know, running it all the way up to, you know, the cross bar wellfield to go rehydrate what's up there, too. But, um, >> they didn't want to do it. And if it's too far with what we've got going down down in Hillsboro is they're growing as as much as they are too that I think that's something we should be pushing real hard on rather than deep ejection
wells and turning into drinking water. They they'd have to spend so much money cleaning that water to get it drinkable. And again, I don't know about anyone else, but whenever I know there's that type of water, I just don't want any part of it. um going to um Dade City.
What's the progress with the um the exploration up there, the investigation as far as drilling up in Dade City area? Uh that's the Eastern Pasco well field. It's one of those six projects that I had on the slide. Uh right now they're just doing the well uh to do a pump test
to to basically just see what what the environment will do if if water was pumped. >> Uh that project, like I said, is in feasibility. It's going to there's a study that's going to come out and it's going to say if it's feasible to do or not about 9 million gallons a day. Uh it
was uh fresh groundwater and also a brackish water. The brackish water has been put on hold. So they're just they're not going as deep, but they're looking at what does does that area support underneath environmentally with the pumps the a pump test.
>> So um that would be next year. I said to you in 2027 the board would be looking at different supplies. Um and so the study is not done but it will be soon and then it'll go in there for the board to consider into the future. >> Okay. And one last thought as we got in
the hard plant pumps a lot of treated water very well treated water but still um if you look at the seagrass as I sit in the estuary actually chairing of the estuary uh for Tampa Bay the seagrass has really been a negative uh turn for the past few years. You've got other
cities that are pumping water in the two. I won't name them, but uh they're known. Um all that water by 2031 or 32 has to stop. But I think we should be starting to look at programs and maybe we can make it part of our federal platform as we talk about that next to try to go up there and try to get some
federal money to help these plants that are pumping that water in and go find another source for it to go such as, you know, uh could be golf courses, could be other projects, new development coming in to to get it to a better place. So appreciate working with you. Thank you very much. Thank you. I appreciate the
comments. >> Any other thoughts, questions? Okay. >> Thank you very much. Appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> So, it's 11:10. I've got a time certain for 11:15. So, I'm going to bill up bring up Mr. Bill Cronin. >> Good morning, everyone. Happy Tuesday.
And u always great to hear from from Chuck and and Tampa Bay Water. Uh water is really important to what we do as well too. So, makes sense that we're together right now. Um, today I'm have the pleasure to report to you our first quarter um metrics to the county. Uh,
this is a little different format than usual. Uh, this is the very first uh full reporting period that we've been our public funds have been 100% from the penny. So, historically, we used to have two presentations. today. You're lucky.
We just have one presentation that covers all of the different things that we're doing. And I'm going to format it in a a certain way for you to follow fairly easily. But I also want to let you know in your packet, you've got the full list of metrics that you'll get
every single meeting uh that I present. Uh and that's 88 different items that we perform on behalf of the county uh per our contract with the penny for Pasco. We're not going to go through all 88 of those and instead I'm going to present
in u some of the highlights of each department and uh also the impacts that those those metrics lend towards. So uh just before we get started just uh for fun >> did did we get that? I don't have it. I
don't have it. I don't think anyone else has it. It's not attached in the agenda. We don't typically print out the presentations for you, but >> but shouldn't it be at least online? >> Yeah, it's it's in >> it says attachments none.
>> We'll we'll have that presented. There's usually a timing issue when we go to publication on these types of things. But Gina can print those for you and have them available to you if you want to follow along. >> Do you want to make copy of this? Okay. >> Okay. And I'll I'll make sure when we uh
when we turn those in also to remind everyone to to add those because they're they're good reading. There's a lot of stuff. Um you'll see some pictures from when we had Vantage Point AI uh for an announcement for their expansion uh during the first quarter.
And I'm going to present this in three major groups uh uh and that is start move and grow the same as as our moniker. So start being our startups, uh things that we work on through the incubators, our entrepreneurship programs. Move will be business
recruitment where we're trying to get people to move here and grow will be exactly what it says, growing our existing business here and then showing what the impacts of each of those are. So, starting with the uh start, you'll see that um the three highlights of the
of the quarter, we had uh one microloan closed out of our goal for six for the year, $25,000 that went to uh FEMA's Kitchen in Zephr Hills, and we're starting to see a a real um how do I say
food hub started to uh take place in East Pasco right now. Uh and as far as uh participants in in workshops, we had 286 participants already in the first quarter. Our overall goal of 650. We had
six representatives uh attend six different events in the community um with our our goal of 10 for the year. So we're already ahead on each of those. We also hosted 22 Israeli tech firms
>> uh at Smart Start. So, uh, Israel sees Florida as a pretty big market. We're, uh, uh, well over twice the size of of the country of Israel, and most of them want to do partnerships with us. So, the impact of those activities
are we're seeing uh, new members at each of the incubator centers. So, two new incubators uh, uh, members at West Pasco, eight at the Grove, and six at the kitchen or East Pasco. Uh but here's
the the part that's most interesting. 16 companies launched in that first quarter and those are things that that these activities will build up to. We can't make a company do these things but this is the impact that those activities have
by doing them. So highlights from uh business recruitment uh we had nine business uh development events that we attended in the first quarter. Um and in that you see there's urban land institute um commercial real estate
conferences again getting the word out to people outside the county outside the state to move here. Our ready sites um continue to be what most people are looking at. We have a new candidate site for ready site that we're working on
already for uh this next year. It takes us about a year to a year and a half to complete that. And then um we had members that were speaking at events. So I spoke at the bio conference, uh Tom Ryan at the NAOP conference and then we
also uh represent had representation at economix which was all site consultants and then impacts for that eight new leads already in the first quarter, 18 new projects and 14 RFPs that we
responded to that we submitted Pasco County buildings or sites. uh eight submissions that included our ready sites and 14 face-to-face meetings with decision makers on projects. That's really where the rubber hits the road is
is when we're actually meeting with people moving into grow and again working with our existing business. Uh we hosted a workforce uh group event which is our Pasco 50. We do that twice a year. We already had our first one uh
Pasco 50 and then also I'm trying to read that with a 60 one-on-one counseling sessions. Um quarter two we assisted two companies that had uh need for foreign trade zone.
So keep in mind anything we do with exports or helping people find export markets that's part of our existing business assistance. And then we had 16 visits to local companies that had uh issues or challenges. And that's when we
work really closely together uh with county staff with uh office of economic growth permitting planning all of the above to help our companies um navigate through those situations. So impact for our existing business, 16 visits, 27
different issues that were addressed. And you'll see there's a graph that actually lists the different types of issues so that we can start to see if there's trends. If there's trends in certain items, we'll come back and say maybe we need to do something programmatically to address something if we're if we have several companies going
through the same issue. um eight new uh um jobs out of those expansions, two local expansions, local companies here. And that's always probably our best ad for business is when we see our local
companies continue to expand. Uh here's an overall glimpse of our our whole pipeline. And in the gray is the existing pipeline and the orange are the items that came through this first this first quarter. So, I'm always going to
present to you um what we have, what's new. You need to see that pipeline continuing to grow, what we're still working. Um and unfortunately, sometimes what we've what we've lost or what has been abandoned, we'll actually include in there as well too, so that you know
uh if if the faucets start to turn off at all. uh the top target industries still no surprise there advanced manufacturing life sciences aviation aerospace and defense although I I will say and I mentioned earlier we're starting to see a lot more uh activity
around food especially around East Pasco and that's why again water being so important with what we do I see uh Nicole Dubes here today also um with access to to fresh uh and those are going to be something that we continue to see especially around Zephr I think
too. Um, we had three wins. Uh, Black Diamond Coatings, uh, Greco Architectural Metal Products and the fulfillment lab. And we're waiting on jobs commitments for those, but uh, we've already got the commitment that they're going to do it here. You may
have already seen the sign for fulfillment labs on the building, um, the spec building at, um, uh, Sun Lake. So, this was a company that we all helped jump through some hoops right around the holiday time and they sent out millions and millions of packages
just from that location in that short time. Uh, thanks to working together with staff here. Uh, marketing, $776,000 of earned media value already. Our goal is a million. Um, as far as our social
media followings, we have a 5% year-over-year increase uh goal, and that goal puts us at 722 new followers for the year. We already have 160. So, that's that's trending really well. and two ad campaigns
already this year uh focused on the port shipping uh propeller club and that goes out to of course to the foreign direct investment candidates uh top landing pages still um well doing business in Pasco Boduko Foods Smart Start
Microloans a lot of those are same uh press releases that we had and it's not surprising that they're going to the web page to read more about that. Florida, Virginia, Oregon, California, and Iowa are the top hits this quarter. Um,
historically, we've seen a lot from Illinois, New Jersey, New York. Uh, starting to see some stuff further west this time. And then as far as our private sector activity, uh we're up to 94 investors, uh 48 members of the board or policy
council and already have 240,000 um in our private sector investment goals or towards our goal. Three new investors, Orlando Health, um Tampa Metropolitan Area YMCA, and Bank of the
Ozarks. And then coming up, uh, thanks for for you guys who had attended the economic forecast lunchon this last week. Soldout event, uh, again, many years in a row. Everybody likes that one. Uh, next thing coming up is our food vendor fair, which will be at the
East Pasco Incubator. And I always joke, you wear your stretchy pants. They'll have samples there, but it's a good time to meet our food vendors. And um you know if you're looking to buy something for your staff or uh or catering arrangements uh we've had a lot of experience that um uh has come out of
that by meeting with our our members there. March 12th annual Netfest and that'll be the chili cookoff again and that will be at the concourse out on 52 fairly centrally located. Should be easy to get to and should be chilly enough to
enjoy the chili. And then uh also our annual Grow Pasco March 19th also in March and that'll be a dayong event for entrepreneurs over at the um uh Sierra Hyatt play or I'm sorry at St. Leo all
day and that's our our team and uh I'll stop there and see if you guys have any questions. >> Any questions? >> Mr. Wman. >> Yeah, thanks chair. Yeah, Bill. I I like I very much like this style of your update. It's uh more detailed and and
metric driven, which I appreciate. So, I know probably may took your team a little bit more time to put it together, but grateful for Bill's team and your time in in this new format. So, good update for Q1. >> Thanks. >> Thank you. >> Um
>> Commissioner Stark, >> um how so how far along is Baduko? Are they going vertical? >> They're very vertical. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. They're very vertical. Excited. Yeah. >> And um and right now we're we're seeing them already talk about um doing a
hiring fair uh to start hiring some some employees. Equipment should be coming fairly soon as well in there. But yeah, if you drop by and we'll include some photos uh >> uh for you guys. Good reason to get out there. >> And um uh yes, but but very vertical and
it looks great. State-of-the-art. >> Well, um would you mind sending me some photos? >> Happy to do it. Senator. Yeah. >> Yeah. Someone. Okay. I'd love to see what it looks like. >> So, Bill, with um and again, great report. I I do love the structure, too. Thank you for coming up.
>> Um with New York, New Jersey, I think Seattle, those mayors are up there that are really disrupting things. >> Yeah. >> Uh the way they're going to start taxing the rich, etc. I got to think we got some great opportunities. Are we looking to penetrate those markets a little bit more? >> Selectively. I'll say selectively.
there's some some of the the voices there we don't want here. Uh I'll be I'll be very candid about that. >> Yeah. >> But uh thank you again. And this this also helps um uh the county with their staff with their strategic plan. A lot of these items now align perfectly with
the strategic plans item 3.3 and 3.2. So at the end of the year, you'll see very clearly where Pasco EDC is working together with staff in uh what our part of is and then what the return on investment is. Okay. One more thing too. As far as like office development, etc.,
do you still find there's a strong need out there for office to bring jobs up here as opposed to people still commuting south? >> Yeah, I think uh as people as people start to settle into the housing that has been built over the last few years, the employers are going to start to see um there's no need for all of those
people to commute on a daily basis downtown. And if they can save an hour out of people's lives at the beginning and the end of the day, um that's makes for a better workforce and happier workforce. And now we have CEO level housing here too. So they can move here
as well uh too. The the difference is that um it needs to be there and ready. So speculative developments really difficult to roll the dice and say am I going to go ahead and build this and hope they come. Uh luckily we do have some product out there. It's been
filling. I think the attitude is there. Um just a matter of making sure that we continue to tell the story. >> Okay. Mr. Jagger, do you want anything? >> Okay. Well, thank you very much, sir. Appreciate. >> Thank you all. Happy New Year. >> Okay. Next item. We're going to get to
our federal platform. >> Good morning, commissioners. Ralph Lair, intergovernmental affairs officer. So today our objective uh is to gather your input and direction to establish our legislative platform, federal legislative platform, set goals, priorities that will be the basis of our
advocacy efforts with Congress and federal agencies going forward. We have with us today Tracy Pew. Um she's with our lobby team, uh federal lobby team, Ballard Partners, joining us today. we're going to she'll chime in and we'll
do like a tag team going forward uh during the presentation. So, what we're going to go over, uh, federal grant funding that we have received for FY 23 through 25, community project funding, which are earmarks, uh, for years 23-2,
active funding requests for this year 26, um, future funding objectives, regulation language currently being addressed, and future concerns that we could address, and then next steps uh, on how we can uh, better advocate Kate
in Washington and work with our federal lobbyist Ballard partners. So before I we jump to the slide, let me just tell you federal funding opportunities. How do we get those? Uh we get those through major competitive
grants and programs. Several key federal departments offer competitive grant opportunities like DOT's raise grant, formerly the build grant, DOT's bridge investment program, EPA water infrastructural finance innovation act,
and we also get those through community projects uh funding and earmarks, which are requests submitted by individual members in the House of Representatives for specific projects and purposes. Funding also goes through major legislation such as the surface
transportation reauthorization bill which Congress is currently working on reauthorizing in 2026. Uh the le the legislation authors authorizes billions of federal aids for highways, public transit, highway safety and rail. And
finally we get the this type of funding from our feds through DA disaster recovery. So looking at the first slide, Pasco has received 694 million of federal grant awards over the last three fiscal years. This includes 585 million
of CDBGDR funding. 91 million is state path pass through programs. So majority of the m uh money that comes out of the feds, it's sent down to the state uh to um push out to the local governments uh
through grant programs. uh $18 million comes directly from the federal programs. Of that uh funding that we've received over those years, 37 million uh is recurring grants. 72 million are non-recurring grants.
Federal appropriations, how have we done over the uh past 20 uh three uh uh for for years 23 25? Um these are again our earmarks. Uh these are submitted by our congressional members in the house.
Pasco has received 15 uh 55 million of federal appropriations over the last three fiscal years through community project funding. Notable appropriations include Wilton Way connector road on Spiro's campus, which was actually money passed through to another entity, but it
had to come through our county. 3 million for design of a consolidated public safety facility. two million for an affordable supportive housing for seniors and 3.3 million for Livingston Road sidewalk. >> Are are are these are earmarks from uh
Congressman Bill Arachus and >> manly and possibly Lee? >> Um so last year FY2025 uh Congress did not accept uh community project funding. So the projects which a lot of times we just move forward from
previous years to continue to get the funding until we reach the final goal. Uh those were moved forward to this year. We resubmitted those if you remember. I I went back to you and told you. Um so Congressman Bill Arachus resubmitted our projects from 25 and
Congresswoman Lee did the same thing. So our uh current community project funding requests for FY26 are those list there. Um uh and I have some good news. So as you remember the federal government
shut down toward the end of last year. So going into this year they moved quickly. They have a deadline of January 30th that they had to get the um budget completed to make sure to avoid another shutdown. So they have been addressing
and funding these in in small rollout bills. Um and so last Thursday uh they passed three spending bills hitting the halfway mark in its push to fund government for fiscal 2026 ahead of the shutdown. Uh those bills were sent to
the president. The package included measures to fund the commerce, justice, energy, and uh interior departments through the end of September. Uh these included uh the energy and water appropriations bills. So let's see if I can do this.
>> Wait. So >> Mr. Starky, >> thank you. So these these did not have not passed. >> So I'm about to tell you that we're about to get there. So we did get um partial funding for the
inline chlorine booster. Um let me see if I could the very first one there. We had asked for 6.8 million. We got 750,000 and for the Congresswoman and Lee's Crystal Springs. Let's see if I can do it. I got to go
back. There we go. So, the uh bottom one there, the two million asked for Crystal Springs Chlorine Booster Station, we re uh received $1 million. And this morning, Summer called me to
tell me that uh from Congresswoman or Congressman Bill Ara's office informed me that the THUD bill, which contain the majority of uh our our projects that are on that list, uh that rolled out today. And so we got
for that uh $3 million additional uh road expansion for uh Spiros campus for Moffett. Um, we received $500,000 and for under Congresswoman Lee the $3.3
million for the Kier Parkway. I'm not good at this. Um, we received $1 million. >> Yes. >> In addition, good news, Kathy, you'll like this. Uh, 4 million. Uh, it's >> Go ahead. I'll wait till you're done with all your numbers.
>> Okay. Uh, in addition, uh, we received, I'll say we, Pasco County, uh, $4 million for the Area Agency on Aging, affordable housing for seniors. >> Yay. >> Yay. Um, and also, uh, the bill contained,
uh, language reverting funds, uh, for, uh, CARES that were, uh, previously funded in 23. Those monies have now been reverted and will come back to Pasco County. So, you've been waiting for that one too, Kathy. So, great news. Unfortunately,
um, and we're going to get to that slide shortly. We did submit committee language that was submitted uh for a CDBGDR ex uh exception to the transportation housing um committee. uh what we were trying to do there, if you'll remember,
this language was allow uh would have allowed us to uh use CDBGDR funds to be used for a construction of an emergency operation center. Unfortunately, they did not put that in there, but speaking with Tracy earlier, this is something we
can go back in now and and go talk to the committees to say, let's go over our projects. So, you partially funded it. What can we do better? Uh let's look at that language because I think we still can go back and address it this uh going forward. Um and say it
it's a need. Uh the EOC um helps our community a great deal and there should be an exception for those funds and and and and go toward partial funding. In fact, when we were in Washington, if you remember, uh last year, um there were
other counties from other states and in the state of Florida that really weren't aware of that. And so, they too were beginning to advocate for uh for such a request going forward. >> Okay. Now, I can have my question. >> Yes, you can. >> Mr.
>> Thank you. Uh, are they still at the $10 million annual level for funding >> for capping? It's what we normally say is usually $5 million for a uh community uh budget uh funding request. Oh, go
ahead. 10 million for >> Congressman in the past had a they could get earmarks up to $10 million. That's what they had annually. >> Well, now they're $5 million. Go ahead. Come on up.
>> Good morning, commissioners. Good to see you again. Those of you that were in Washington last year, two things I want to point out. One, on T HUD, congratulations. Those projects are in the house. >> By the way, just so everyone can have the record just your name, company. >> Oh, good morning again. I'm Tracy Pew
with Ballard Partners. I want to say with T HUD, congratulations. Those projects are in the House bill. The House is uh scheduled to vote on those this week. The Senate is not in session. They will be back on the 26th. And so we
are halfway through the process on T HUD. But on energy and water, those projects were passed through the House and the Senate. So those numbers that Ralph reported back to you, um those are going to the president in the final bill to be signed. So I want to point that
out. The um each member can establish a cap. the committee will decide at the end of the day how much they're willing to um provide for the particular um the community project. So for instance um
when you said 10 million that may be a figure that was set by Congressman Bill Arachus or Congresswoman Lee's office but there are offices that request more than that. Um, I recommend that, um, counties stay around the 5 to 10 million
range because that usually, um, is a number that tends to get funded. Um, there are some that come in, you know, 100 150 million. Those types of projects are not likely to get fully fully funded. >> Okay.
>> Question. >> Uh, Commissioner Wman. >> Thank you, Chair. Um Ralph, we had partial funding on uh uh the coin booster station for Aaron Cutoff and partial funding for Crystal Springs. Can we just take there and cut off money and
and move it to the Crystal Springs coin boost station, have it paid in full and get it built? >> It's a buck. So >> I I I'm going to say probably not because in the when we go into contract uh which will probably be in the within the year. Um
that would the way it was written it specifically has to go that uh go directly to that project. You can't move it around. It's possibility based that they do both the same um >> they do the same thing >> objective that we may be able to but
that's going to have to come up during um uh when we go uh go into signing the agreement with the feds for that money and that's something the department would have to work out if that is so the direction of the board to do that >> that that is correct and I would also
add commissioner that what you can do as you think about fiscal year 27 is going back to your members of Congress and maybe requesting additional funding to make up the difference of the port portion that you didn't receive.
>> Well, I I say that because then Aaron cut off coin booster station 6.8 billion and the Crystal Springs project is 2 million. So, we've got the 2 million bucks and we can get one of the two built, right? Instead of just having
partial funding for each. So that's kind of was my thought process if that could be that we knock one out. >> So again I think hearing you this is what we need is is the feedback. I think we can then um um after the meeting uh in the coming days get with the
department kind of discuss that possibility as an objective going forward so when it does come time to go into contract with the feds uh we can have that discussion. is going to suggest commissioner that yeah we talk to utilities and see what the status of
those projects are how shovel ready they are where they sit and design's here actually so if you want he can talk to it real quick >> I don't want to bel labored I just the funding's there for at least one of the two and you know how I am we got funding let's get it done right so very simple
thought process >> so we heard you loud and clear and I think we'll have that discussion with Adalfa >> commission >> quick question I was making notes did we get 1 million for Kier Parkway. >> That is correct. >> Okay. And did we get any money for that last year?
>> Um no, previously we did not. >> We did. Okay. >> Uh I'm going to ask a couple of questions. I'm going to start with Kyline Road. Okay. >> Um where we're trying to get money from the state. Um >> again, if it's six years from being built, that's going to be a long long
time. Sure. And Hernando wants it done. They've got some money and different things at a small county to get funding. Is there any way to put something together to look at getting funding for that? Have we done that? >> And so, no, we have not. But >> I I I believe they were pursuing a build grant for that if I'm not mistaken.
>> Is Nick. >> Good morning. Uh Nick Uren, county engineer. Um we we actually have a funding strategy for segments of County Line Road North that shares responsibility between us and Hernando County and allocates some state grants
um county incentive grant program funds which are state dollars and potentially trip funds also state dollars toward the construction of wider county line road. So if we got more federal money to go along what we're trying to partner with the state might it be something that might put us over the top to get it done
because I know it's DOT looks at where the money's coming from to what they can get done and usually it's going to take from something else. Additional funding could potentially accelerate it. We still need to finalize our design and then buy the land to build on. So there's going to be some hurdles that we
have to overcome to get to construction regardless of whose money we use to pay for construction. >> Okay. I'm just looking for an extra source. Yeah, sure. And and again, we hear you on the prioritization of that. We're working hard to get it done. >> And I've got a meeting coming up uh this coming week on Ridge Road with Brford
and the team. Uh so I'm not sure where we are. So Brford, you may jump into this, but I'm going to throw something out there looking at social media last week. Um I watched a county, I think it was Palm Beach County, actually named a road after Trump, right? Um,
so I think especially with what we did with Ridge Road, we should look at changing the name and call it Trump Road all the way to 41. I'm throwing it out there. I'm going to throw one more thing out there with you as well. While we're on the subject, um, Sunlake
Road, we're trying to get funding for that as well, and I'm glad to see it's on the list here, but I'm thinking maybe we should take a look at possibly naming that Charlie Kirk Road. We're trying to get Trump out here for our final cut with Ridge Road as we get this thing built. And again, I'll wait for the extension one coming up, but I
think it'd be awesome. If he knew was going to be named, I think he'd be sure to be here. I think it would also be help us with the funding quite a bit with Sunlake Road if we took a look at doing the rename on that as well. I know it's a shock for you all, but that's what I'm thinking. Thoughts?
>> I think I don't know. I just It's kind of funny. Um, but you know, Trump Road doesn't sound very majestic. Maybe we'd have to name it like Trump Parkway or something. >> We can do that. I'm flexible. I'm flexible. >> I don't know. I don't know.
>> Something to gel on. >> Yeah. Um, last thing, I don't see anything with AM skills here and I know we're going to be going up to in February. So, I know we're going to try to look at that um and try to work with getting some help with that for more
create more jobs and we'll hear more about that in shortly. >> Yeah. >> So, well, what are we in discussion on right now? >> So, now I'm talking about uh and we're still on active funding. Uh so in addition to the member projects that we
were submitted um this year we were also able to submit projects to surface transportation reauthorization bill that they'll be doing later on this year uh for 2026. So, uh, got with the departments, ran these by you of
projects, and they're heavy ask. We don't know how this will play out. Uh, but we submitted projects. Um, do not know, uh, until they get to the bill if they'll be included. Um, but we included 15 million for the intersection improvements for US41.
Um, $10 million for Bellamy Road uh, uh, expansion and work. uh 15 million for Sun Lake Boulevard uh north of Buck Beexley to Langelene and 2.8 million for a uh busy up transit on US19. Again,
they'll be working on that bill later this year and hopefully we can get some of this included into that bill. >> Mr. Starky, >> so are these um are these build grants? No, this is separate funding that goes
into So, you remember I told said earlier that uh feds put in money into um bills. This is one of those. They put billions of billions of dollars in and they're allowing the members to pick projects in their communities uh that
would be funded from that pot of money that uh so they'll when they work on the bill, they'll include the amount. It's not a set amount. They'll include the amount uh on that and then they'll start listing out projects that uh will be divvied out amongst them. Am I correct
there? >> So I um So are two of these in Bill? Does it matter? >> They were all in Billis' area. We did not have any in in uh Congresswoman uh Lee's office that staff felt was
warranted enough to to move forward. >> Sun Lake is not in Le. >> No. No. Um, the Homie Brothers is not in Le. >> No. >> Okay. >> She really only has Zephr Hills up to uh 75. >> Okay. Well, um, is it customary to list
so many projects? >> Again, this was a first time ask that they included. So, he uh, Commissioner uh, or Congresswoman Billis did not have a set amount or number of projects. It was just like, what's your wish list?
Well, what does our lobbyist say about doing four different ones? >> You have to relate. Sorry. >> Th This is normal. There are communities that list way more than four. So, >> um what about
a build grant? I don't see where we went went for that. And didn't I >> So, that's a grant. So, um that might be a possibility that >> we're only we're only talking about appropriations, right? >> Correct. And I'm just about to go into future uh grants. So at this time, what
we're aware of out of uh out of grants is that our fire rescue will be submitting uh for a FEMA staffing adequate fire emergency response a safer grant. We've been successful with those in the past and at this time uh the
departments have not um found a project. It's something we could talk about when those bill grants do come out. uh and they they put out a uh a NOFO uh a notice of funding opportunity that we might be able to
apply. But this is again good feedback. Uh again, we'll get with staff to see if there are other opportunities. We we we just got notification from Tracy about some library grants that I know libraries are looking at as a possibility. Again, these are grant
opportunities going forward that'll come out this year, and as they come out, uh, we will make sure we watch those and see if there's anything we can apply for. >> Aren't there, um, grants for, uh, trails in that surface transportation bill?
>> Not that I'm aware of. Sometimes there uh, it it it may be uh, that there uh, that there will be, but again, until they start working on that reauthorization bill, don't know what they'll include in that. It's always as it as it's formulated. >> Michgo,
>> so Ralph, just a quick question. Do you know if Hillsboro is also trying to put money in for the intersection of US uh 41? >> No, I'm not aware of that. No. >> Could we find that out? >> I can. Yes, >> that would be great. Like if we got the funding together and just made
>> It's always good when we can piggy back with our neighbors. Yes. >> Well, then the TMA should be get able to get letters support because they voted on. Matter of fact, two Penllis County Commission made the motion in second to get that done as a project for the region. >> So speaking as a region, that's like one of those things we talk about. >> Yep. No, you're right in the money. But
bringing all that together, maybe >> I think >> maybe the right steps to go. >> Exactly. Exactly. >> I'm pretty sure city of Tampa has gotten a lot of federal funding to build that trail that goes along the river. and and and I will make sure and our uh definitely our our parks uh and our uh
transportation engineering will keep an eye out for future uh trail funding availabilities. >> It says and I just did a quick Google. It says key federal programs, the RTP recreational trails program, the LWCF, Land and Water Conservation Fund, the um
IIGJA, and the um and DOT has grants uh for well, safe streets, safe streets. Um but uh I don't know if we've ever applied for a federal grant for trails.
>> So So again, I got to go back to uh one of our earlier slides. I uh I think we should be applauding our our our staff. They really are aggressively going out. I think we've heard the uh uh the message loud and clear. We can do better. Um we should go for every
opportunity uh when these grants uh go forward uh and they are pushed out. Uh and I think that's what we'll be doing uh and have been doing uh going forward. So future funding uh opportunities. So, so basically on on this one, getting
feedback from our county departments, we've established some projects that we we could uh possibly look at seeking funding for. Um I have had discussions about some of these projects with our with Tracy uh and our federal team. Um
uh but but just know that, you know, um we've got to look for for funding for the East and West courthouse improvements. We're looking at about $222 million. And I'll stop there. I know. I just I just want to make just a note just on on a sad note. Um yesterday
a judge and his wife were shot. Yeah. So I mean people are crazy. We we really need to make these courouses the priority. So >> and hopefully we'll be successful. I think that's a message I'll be going up to Tallahassee and uh uh tomorrow and the next day. Um I'll make sure that our
sponsors are very much aware for the project that we have submitted at the state level uh to Gord for the Sumner uh courthouse. >> Okay, good. >> Um almost um so other ideas design and
construction of a new EOC. Uh septic to sewer conversions are a possibility that's about a $1 billion price tag and other public infrastructure projects. So now we're into regulations >> on on that. Ralph, just I'll stop. >> If you could just um uh see that you
work with our team on the canal restoration. We're putting a lot of money in, so it should be great to get matching funds to go what we've already allocated. >> Okay. So as I mentioned what we had currently had uh been addressing with regulation and language uh which unfortunately was
not included in the THUD bill was uh that CDBGDR language. Um so that's something we can continue on moving forward. Um because as you know the CDBGR is going to take several years to implement. So if that language were to
be changed, let's say for the 27y year or the remainder of 26 um and we were successful in getting that language that we may be able uh then to use those funds uh uh if again that language is adopted. So, my recommendation that we
we carry that on and continue those efforts. We'll go back in um meet with committee staff. Uh again, this is something I discussed with Tracy earlier and find out what was it that that uh that you all
decided not to include that language. What can we do to write language that would be more receptive moving forward? Um uh we also um you all put out with your NO working with Congressman Bill
Arachus uh which he is reviewing the letter that was sent to him to do a study of the Davis Bacon wage compliance cost again to do a study not to address the issues of what we're attempting to do uh with language. Um so we have that
going forward uh that's still being worked on. Um we are also dealing with uh US Army Corps of Engineers. Uh as you know Dr. Bellowos and staff were successful uh in our efforts uh to get
um the Congress to reauthorize the Four Rivers Basin project. So where we are at this point today and and Congress is aware of this but this is an issue that we could discuss when we go to Washington for Niko. Um,
>> yes, >> the uh Atlanta office is still waiting for a re an actual response. Although we verbally have gotten a response that Army Corps will will reauthorize it, a formal letter uh was not uh uh sent to
uh Congressman Bill and the other two commissioners that signed on to that letter. Part of that, I think, was you're we were going over the holidays and dealing with a government shutdown. So I I I just think it's just a matter of of putting the fire back under them
so we can move forward with that. Um and I know that Army Corps of Engineers is really an area that that is definitely a federal department that that we work with closely. So, some other issues that we've talked with staff about uh that we
could uh possibly sit down and meet with them and discuss um a Maggie Valley storage wetland enhancement project. Um support for fair and responsible sediment uh removal from the hurricane impacts. I know that's important to you chairman and others too.
>> Let me just add one word to that. Sure. Yes. And put hurricane impacts. Put slash storm water because over the years storm water keeps on going to those into the canals. that affects water quality and make that part of it so it's just not storm related. We got to tie back to that. >> And I and I think going forward, you
know, we'll we'll work on that uh that language uh before we go uh and if we do set up a meeting with Army Corps and again that's something I've been discussing with Tracy so we'll be better prepared when we go up and and have have that discussion with them. >> Definitely want to meet with them on on when we go up there February
>> indeed. Um and then permit approvals. Um, so there are are are some uh things that we have uh had a hold up right now of Army Corps that we can look into, see if we can uh um get that moving along while we're up there and have that discussion.
Um so going forward and and knowing this another thing like the uh reauthorization bill with the transportation last week we were notified that THUD uh would be gathering information and input for members of Congress to develop a pass uh and pass a
water resource development act a word uh later this Congress. So the word provides members of Congress the opportunity to authorize Army Corps of Engineers uh to work on projects to improve the nation's ports, harbors, inland waterways, navigation network,
flood and storm protection uh and other water uh resource infrastructure. So we're currently in the process of gathering feedback. I did receive some feedback uh from our departments. Uh we've got to review those uh and see what projects we can submit. Uh at this
point in time, Congressman Bill Aragas has not given us a deadline, but it's coming up fast. Like I said, the committee chair just rolled it out last week uh and gave us this uh this opportunity. So again, these would be projects that Congress would direct Army
Corps of Engineers to do the actual work and fund uh going forward. So hopefully we'll have some good projects to submit on that. So these I consider this like a new opportunity kind of like the reauthorization. We've never had this opportunity. So we'll try to see what we can get done and uh there's no cap or
limits at this point in time. >> Okay. All right. And uh Tracy, are you Is that it, Ralph? >> No. Uh one more slide. >> One more slide. Okay. One more. >> We're getting there. We're getting there. Okay. Uh then we uh we got feedback on some possible regulation and language uh that we could consider
working on with our congressional members. again getting feedback from from departments and staff. So various departments uh Commissioner uh Starky uh addressed um the Davis Bacon uh act. So we have a request in right now to do a
study. We could actually look at possibly doing language that Niko, which is also in their platform, currently has and they will continue to advocate going forward to put a raising the cap of the current $2,000 per project to $50,000
and then put a consumer price index attached that to it. >> You're talking about the Davis Bacon. >> That That's correct. I am talking about Davis. Uh, so, so that's something that we could possibly pursue as our own policy because we know what an impact it has just on our county. I know Nico and
everybody else in the United States is working on it, but maybe we could try that as a as a possibility to just put in some see if you can submit committee language. >> I'm so confused by that statement because I don't Were you in my committee when this failed last year in meeting? >> Was your Davis Bacon? >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> No, I was with transportation, but we tried to get it through them and they said, "Well, we're going to defer to your committee >> because because the resolution failed >> in the CWD uh policy, >> but a lot of that was carried over from the previous platform which included the
the raising of the cap. So, in reality, he he did respond back to Katie. It uh the the policy already remains and will continue to remain. What they were discussing during that committee unfortunately did fail. So I think you'll see it be resubmitted again when
we uh uh discuss those uh at NA. >> Okay. I >> So additional requirements in in addition to what previously existed, they will add on additional requirements. >> We have to work to get more um politically diverse people on that committee. If you could help me
>> with Nico, good luck. >> Good luck on that. Yeah. >> Um so, so some other uh issues that that Steph recommended as a possibility, uh look at the uh change to affordable uh
care act. Um this would help uh with it's an issue that we've been dealing with uh with social security and with the Affordable Care Act. So, there could be some of our um visitors at our correction facility that qualify for those funds and rather than the burden
we put in put on uh just the residents of Pasco County, uh we'd like to see some of those funds continue on uh with our visitors um that they were already previously receiving. Uh and then we uh looking at possibly doing an update to
section 8 housing requirements surrounding the residency requirements. As you know, that was a big issue. That's something we can work on directly. We know how it impacted us. We could work with Sen uh Congresswoman Lee and Congressman Bill Aragas to see if they could get language put in to address that. Uh and as always, we'll
continue to monitor proposed language that would impact the county. And finally, next steps again getting the feedback. um talking with Tracy today uh and Ballard how we can uh improve our advocacy
uh future funding opportunities, future language and regulation opportunities and then scheduling and advocacy meetings especially for the upcoming trip in Niko. I think Tracy and I have been talking and I'm going to bring her back up here um how we effectively
utilize that time. So we're we're competing with every county from around the United States. They're doing the same thing we're doing, going up to the hill to advocate and try to meet with people. And so if you remember, we piggybacked with several counties last year. So how could we be more effective
and and and look at not just Niko, but going up on separate times to address just our issues when it's not as busy. So I'm going to bring her back up. >> Thanks, Ralph. Um, one thing I would suggest as we think about Niko, as Ralph mentioned, there are all the counties
across the United States represented. So, um, and of course the 67 counties in Florida, many of them are represented as well. Um, it is important to always meet with our delegation, Senator Scott, Senator Moody, um, Congressman Billis,
Congresswoman Lee. However, I would prioritize the agency meetings. I think they are the most important. We should certainly um focus on uh Army Corps. We have a Fidian who worked for uh then Senator Rubio and worked for Senator um
Moody. I believe you all may have met with him last year. He's now at Army Corps and certainly is familiar with uh Connor Tomlinson. Okay. >> Um certainly familiar with Florida, familiar with a lot of the requests that you all have made over the years. Um,
HUD seems to be an agency that we definitely need to have a face tof face with while you all are there as well as possibly DOT. So again, while the meetings with the uh delegation are important, I would prioritize the
meetings with the agencies. >> Okay. And Tracy, I'd like to just Are you going to be around for later on today? Um, my flight's at 5, so you guys have to tell me what time I need to get back on the road. >> Might be tough, but let I just want to bring something. We've talked about um
the work that you do, and I've always uh thought highly of Ballard thought you're very well connected as well. And I know there was a negative article that come out through a uh left-wing organization that took a shot at you guys and kind of put some doubts out there with uh others. and if you want to address that or just tell us your relations are good
with the president and reaffirm that. >> Thank you. Thank you for the opportunity. I would just say I'm coming up on my one-year anniversary at Ballard Partners as um you and Commissioner Starky know. I was just joining Ballard when you all came up last year um after
having a 20 plus career in the House of Representatives. very proud to be working for this firm and the leadership of Brian Ballard is stellar and um proud to be working for the number one lobbying firm in Washington. Mr. Balor
has enjoyed a um illustrious career and um here in Florida and continues to do that in Washington as well and has a strong and deep relationship with um the administration and throughout the federal government. >> Thank you.
Okay. Um, >> Commissioner Sharky. >> So, uh, with our previous, uh, federal lobbyists, we, um, received no foes all the time. >> And especially, you know, some of us have different interests and one of the
areas where I was getting a lot of information was in workforce development. And that's why I workforce development, economic development are kind of where I like to be at at the national level. And um and so I just want to put a stake in the ground that
I'd love to hear whatever nofos uh are coming in those areas. >> Well, that's excellent. One one thing that Ralph and I talked about was be we're uh beginning to um provide a monitoring service of grants that are coming out. That's how you got the
information about the library grant. But particularly with Department of Labor, and that may be one of the agencies that we want to do a one-off maybe with just you to do that meeting when you come up. Um they have um an initiative for an apprenticeship. They're trying to uh
develop about >> skills. A million a million apprenticeships by the end of this year to go visit them. >> Yes. So we can >> I think we're stronger when we go in with multiple commissioners. So if we can >> and I joined you one time. >> Yeah. So if we can and and staff so if
we can >> so so I agree with that. So so since the uh no is just coming up at this point in time currently you commissioner Mariano uh Mike and myself will be up there but as I said as we formulate this maybe the
following month we can go back up there uh to meet with not only our federal delegation but particular issues directly with the department. And this is again the purpose of today is how we can we can improve our our uh uh
relationship uh with Washington and be more effective going forward. >> I'm going to guess there's not a lot of people going into that office. So I'd like to see if while we're up there on this trip. >> Yep. >> Um that we can go in there because that's, you know, pretty specific little office. >> Absolutely. We'll prioritize.
>> Did they did people are there people? Last time we went they didn't have anyone. >> Yes, they are in place now. There are Okay, >> Mike. >> Yep. Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, I think everything that we've heard today, we've gone over kind of uh what we've done in
the past with with the federal with the federal government. Uh we've got legislative and some administrative uh agency type things, projects. We've heard discussions on different types of projects, NOFOs, etc. The the goal here is is to take all this co coalles this
information and develop exactly that. It's not just no. We're going to be working with Ballard to say, "Here's probably what we should be doing in June. Here's what we should be doing in August, September, October, throughout the year as as part of a targeted approach, as well as prioritize some of
these things. There there there could be some of these that are a little more longer term and are going to require more effort." So, the feedback that we've gotten today, I think, is good. I've made a lot of notes on things that I think are important to the board or at least discussions. We'll bring that back uh you know at a later date and have you guys sign off on that much like we do
the state state platform and and priorities and then we're going to go to work on it. So I just thank you all for joining us here on this and if there's anything else that you want to add to it, we'll certainly take that either now or or after the meeting. >> All right. So let me say this. I don't I know we were supposed to talk about the food policy advisory council. If that
can be later today, so be it. But while Tracy's here, David Engel had a presentation on ROI for that. I think before we start the 1:30 hearings this afternoon, let me have David put a quick presentation on for it uh at the right before they do the 1:30 meetings and then we'll Tracy can hear it before she
actually has to go back to DC. >> Okay. All right. So, we'll adjourn for 1:30. Thank you. Part: 2
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advance >> for anything. >> Nothing. >> Nothing. >> So that means we'll be here till 8, you know. >> Yeah. 3 or 1:30.
>> Oh, you sold. He makes you go. >> Sold. He's offended all our chairman. >> Yes. >> He's put his money. >> So, it's here. >> Yeah. All but one. >> Does it hurt?
>> We're going to reconvene the Pasco County meeting. Um, we're going to do two quick presentations. I'm going to start with the Food Policy Council first and then we'll get it to David Engel's presentation. Economic ROI. Good afternoon, Commissioners. Rich
Jenkins, Planning, Development, Economic Growth. here to present the Food Policy Advisory Council's annual report and introduce our chairman uh or chairwoman and uh vice chair uh Nicole Dubie and Jennifer Parker. I'm going to let them
do the actual presentation because our resolution requires them to >> awesome. Good afternoon, commissioners. Nice to see you all again. I met most of you through leadership Pasco. So, the purpose of the food food policy
advisory council or FPAC is to support an accessible, resilient local food system here in Pasco County. Our duties are to re make recommendations to government bodies about policies, support the
development and expansion of locally produced foods here in Pasco, review proposed legislation and regulations that affect the food system, connect economic development, food security efforts, preservation and enhancement of agricultural lands while addressing
environmental concerns. inform, gather, and share information on community food systems. Some of our programs and initiatives include the plants for pints, which is a monthly plant exchange hosted at ordinance 1 in Newport Richie and is
regularly attended about by about 15 to 20 people. One of the other things we worked hard on this um last year was to fulfill our open positions. So out of the seven, we filled four of them and there are three vacant positions. The reappoints and
appointments um were approved by the board on a consent agenda today. We also reviewed the food policy. We did a food policy crosswalk and we looked at urban agricultural policies and this review helped industry practitioners to
provide comments to staff for the backyards chicken ordinance in August of 2025. We also reviewed House Bill 89 and followed it carefully as it would have allowed for small footprint grocery stores to go into food uh in areas to provide more access to healthy
nutrient-dense foods. That bill unfortunately did not attract a Senate companion but was filed in refiled in November of 2025. The FPAC will also continue to follow this and other food system and agriculture related bills currently in the 2026 legislation
session. Our most successful event was our second annual food summit which was hosted on the east side of the county at the one-stop shop where there was a tour of the farmed in and comm commercial kitchen which Bill Cronin mentioned earlier um as a incubator for uh food
entrepreneurs. All of the refreshments were hashtagpicked in Pasco by local farm and provided by local farmers such as Theo's Harvest um Shady Oaks who are here today and Rosebud Continuum. A representative from Congressman Bill Arachus' office was in attendance and
said this was very informative and enjoyable. speakers included myself talking about our nonprofit access to fresh and how we are focused on being an aggregator and distributor of local produce and connecting it to areas such as sho uh
schools and hospital systems. Charles Zider from the Museum of Archaeology, paleontology and science captivated I audiences and attendees on a talk of the Mayan agricultural practices and how it relates to our modern food systems.
Lastly, Tanner, a local farmer here in Newport Richie, um Tanner Kaufman, he owns Theo's Harvest, was in um also presented and demonstrated how small-cale agriculture can feed families and support local economies.
FPAC does invite you to Oh, we're missing a slide there, but FPAC does invite you to our meetings. We're there every month at the Land of Lakes um county utilities building. Our next meeting is February 13th from 2:00 to 3:30. and our food summit is April 16th
from 5:00 to 7:30 at Rosebud Continuum. Lastly, I would like to thank the Department of Panning and Development and Economic Growth for their support and guidance as we focus on agricultural policy as a tool for economic growth and resilience here in Pasco County. I'm happy to take any questions, but I know
we're on a a tight timeline. >> All right, any questions? >> No questions, but great job. >> All right, thank you. >> Thank you. Very good. Okay. And now we'll hear from David Engel, our 37 Pasco re-entry, jobs and ROI update.
Good afternoon. David Engel, planning and economic growth director at the board's uh workshop last uh Tuesday, we had an action uh agenda action item to respond to a request to appear here to discuss um return on
investment as it relates to the job skills and training program. that's funded here through the county. So, um I took the opportunity to just focus on three items that we do when we deliver uh job skills training. One is the career source job skills training
program. It's called Pasco Re-entry. What it does is it upskills currently employed county residents or gets people back in the labor force that are unemployed, whether they be former incarcerated individuals or people that have lost their job. It's highly
successful. The other area that we do we focus on is um is advanced manufacturing training through Ampskills through apprenticeships and direct assistance to businesses. As you'll see in the metrics in a little bit that that is getting traction and making a big impact on our
community. And lastly, the Pasco Economic Development Council provides a direct connect which is a it's almost like an online dating um service u bringing employers and people looking for jobs together. So it's like a
clearing house and that's been very good. And all three of these programs operate collaboratively. They're they're not functioning independently. There's a there's a a nexus there to get better outcomes working together. Now, I just wanted to focus on the
re-entry program because that that focuses directly on people in the disadvantaged population, homelessness and uh and also people that are coming out of prison, etc. And it's been really effective. Uh to date, we've had
enormous traction on the program. We've had 638 people go through it since uh 2018. um vulnerable disadvantaged are 86% of the people that attend this um this training program. That's 86% of the
people there. And the miraculous and remarkable number and metric here is that 97% of the people going through the system retain their jobs over a year. So there's traction there. They're just not going taking a job and leaving three months later. And if you see that metric
there, um $41,900 is the average since its inception, but it's it's really gone up in the last year. It's now $48,572. So, it's a $7,000 increase. And um as as wages go up, these people that are going
through this training program are tracking that. Lastly, uh 229 homeless people since 2019 are trained, skilled, and off the street, which has a tremendous impact on an ROI because it there's a lot of indirect costs associated with homelessness that the
county bears. And here is the uh the ROI sheet, which is really um very illustrative. So to calculate the ROIs between two different programs that's AM skills and career source we had to take somewhat of a unique methodology because each one of
them tracked their ROIs differently. So what we did was we looked at the impact of the employment side. We didn't look at direct and indirect but just straight benefits to the local economy based on employment. And Career Source um is doing a great job. They used to be their
overall average is $9,000 in a placement. They're down to $7,000 now. So they've been doing cost- effectively reducing the the cost of training and getting it into an output area. And their ROI is $13.13 for every dollar we give them. And
that's that's exceptional. Uh AMSKills same methodology looking at the impact of jobs and wages. And you would note that AMSKills uh average jobs are higher because they're manufacturing jobs. Their ROI on place individuals is 22 times and you can see that they have uh
158 direct placements since we've been funding them since 2014. So that's my presentation. Um just wanted to give you a sense of what we're doing, what we continue to do with uh very high ROIs to the community. Thank you. >> So David, thank you for that. And a
couple of things that stick out that uh and I'll get to the RAI number in a second, but 97% of the people have a job after being trained after a year. >> That's right, sir. >> That's a phenomenal rate. Um and that income of an average income now, $48,000 for a manufacturing job. Another great
program with Amskills as well. >> Yes. And and Amskills has a 51% retention rate. And that's that's excellent, too. Anything over 50% is higher than the industry standard for job skills training. >> Yeah. And again 13 to1 uh for career source and 22 to1 for AM skills as far
as return on investment. >> That's correct sir. >> Uh I tell you this data is great and I think it'll help us hopefully in the future. Any other thoughts or questions? >> Um I I'm curious about that um 51% employed. But anyway,
>> well we got that right out of the data that Skills reports to us. >> That's right. I thought it was higher than that. Um, but I'd love the uh return on investment. >> 22 is huge. Yeah. >> Well, we can only get better. >> Yeah, absolutely.
>> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Now, we're going to go to the public hearings. First one is item P37. >> P37. We have proof of publication in the Tampa Bay Times. November issue of November 5th, 2025 supplemented by an
affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. >> Good afternoon. Amy Tol with planning, development, economic growth. Item P37 is the adoption hearing for an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan providing for a small-cale
comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map NEP map 2-15 and sheet 10 from RES 6 residential six dwelling units per gross acre to comm approximately 1.72 acres of real property located on the north side of
Ridge Road approximately 180 ft east of the intersection of Broad Street and Ridge Road and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency, providing for a repealer, severability, and an effective date. This comes with you comes to you
with a recommendation to accept public comment and adopt the ordinance by roll call vote. >> Okay, we want to have a quick presentation. >> We're good. >> Okay, this is the this is the one we had the rightway thoughts with before. Um
this one is Ridge Road and Broad Street is smallcale calm. You might be thinking um Little N Ross, which is also right here. >> Okay. Does it This is the one I'm thinking, but Okay. >> Gotcha.
>> All right. All right. Um >> we have no one signed up in advance nor online. >> Okay. Uh anyone from the audience like to speak this item? >> Okay. It's to the board with approval. >> Second. >> And a roll call vote.
>> It is a roll call. Commissioner Oakley, District 1. >> I. >> District two, Commissioner Wakeman. Hi. >> District three, Commissioner Starky. >> I. >> District four, Commissioner Jagger. >> Hi. >> District five. Chairman Mariano. >> I. Motion passes 50. Item P38.
>> P38. Uh, we have proof of publication in the Tampa Bay Times on November 5th, 2025, supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. >> All right. So P38 is also an adoption hearing for a compreh smallcale
comprehensive plan amendment. An ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan providing for a smallcale comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map 2-15 and sheet 10 changing from comm 9 uh residential nine dwelling units per
gross acre to res 6 residential six dwelling units per gross acre on approximately 26.2 2 acres of real property located approximately 600 ft east of the intersection of Little Road and Ross Lane and providing for additional text amendments as necessary
for internal consistency providing for repealer severability and an effective date. Uh this comes to you with a recommendation to accept public comment and adopt by roll call vote. Uh the MPD resoning does have a companion or there
is a companion MPD resoning item P43 with this one as well. And there's a presentation if necessary. >> Okay. Um I'd like to see the presentation. >> Okay. >> As a with P43 as well. >> Okay. >> Rosley.
Good afternoon. Hi Miselli, Planning Development and Economic Growth, and I will be presenting item P38. Uh we'll start with the project's overview. Thank you, Gina. So, the applicant is proposing a comprehensive a small scale comprehensive plan amendment to change the future land use
designation from res 9 residential nine dwelling unit per gross acre and comm six residential six dwelling unit per gross acre. And the intent of this proposal is to create a unified
residential future land use designation to allow for the development of 74 single family detach units on approximately 26.2 acres site. This site is located on Ross Lane approximately
600 ft east of Little Road. As Amy mentioned, there is a companion reszoning petition to MPUD in the name of DRB Little and Ross MPUD. This map shows a general location of the subject site which is located in the
West Market area and within the urban service area. This is a zoomed in aerial of the location of the subject site. As you can see, this site is just north of our government building. It is situated south of Ridge Road, east of Little
Road, and just north of Ross Lane. And this map provides the existing context surrounding the subject site, which is currently undeveloped. The surrounding area includes a mixture of uses with commercial development to the north along Ridge Road and to the west
along Little Road. And we have the Crescent residential community located to the east of the subject site. Although not shown on this map, the VA hospital is located to the south of the subject site. Next, we have this slide that illustrate
the existing transportation network. There is an existing sidewalk located along the east side of Litter Road. There are no sidewalks along Ross Lane. However, the applicant is proposing to construct a sidewalk on the north side of Ross Lane and specific details um of
this sidewalk will be addressed during the MPD presentation. This is a map showing the existing future land use. As you can see, a portion of the site is comm 9. Comm is also to the north and west of
the subject site. And how much is commercial acreage wise >> as far as the comm? >> Yes. >> Or the comm is about 376,358 square ft. The entire site is 26.2 acres.
So acres acres how much acres >> approximately 14 and 12 acres. Thank you. This is a map showing the proposed future land use. The entire subject site is proposed to be residential.
um six dwelling unit per gross acre and res six aligns with the surrounding densities and the suburban development pattern in the area. So after review and analysis the planning development economic growth department found the proposed amendment to be consistent with the following
comprehensive plan policies resix policy flu 1.4.3 policy flu 1.8.7 policy flu 1.8.10 10 and policy flu 8.1.1. So based on the comprehensive plan consistency analysis, staff recommend
the board to um accept public comment and adopt the proposed comprehensive plan amendment and ordinance by call by roll call vote. And I'm happy to answer any other questions unless you would like to hear the MPD presentation. And then >> I think I'd like to go right to the MPD.
Okay. >> Thank you. We have proof of publication of the hearing of this matter in the November 5th, 2025 edition of the Tampa Bay Times supplemented by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. >> Good afternoon, William Vermillion
Planning Development Economic Growth. This is the companion MPD resoning to the previously mentioned CPA PTE267893. The location map, this is a reszoning request of from AC agricultural to and C2 general
commercial to MPD Master Development District to allow for the maximum development of 74 single family detached homes and associated infrastructure on approximately 26.2 acres. Uh those single family detached homes are a
minimum of 60 feet in width. This is located in the western market area budding the northeast uh corner of Little Road and Ross Lane intersection. Here's the location map. You can see out towards Little Road, some of that commercial property has
already been commercially subdivided. And then as you move further west onto Ross Lane or further east onto Ross Lane, you find the subject site highlighted in red. It is the site of an old uh tree farm.
The current zoning map and the current future land use map reflecting the res 9 and commercial flu on the subject site. Here is the contextual map. To the north uh to orient the commission exist the hardware store with the commercial
subdivision happening as you move further west along Little Road. And then on the southern portion south of Ross Lane exists the uh the Veterans Affair building. Here is the MPD master plan which roughly highlights the internal street
uh network here as well as some of the pedestrian improvements. But it's further illustrated here on the binding concept plan showing those uh 60oot minimum single family detached lots as well as the the sidewalk along Ross Lane both along the entirety of the project's
frontage as well as that yellow piece as you move towards the commercial subdivision. The applicant is building offsite sidewalk to to fill the gap there with the commercial piece for mobility fee credits. The on-site portion of course not mobility fee creditable. The red portion uh that you
can see up to the north is an 8 foot uh 8 foot walking path, a nature trail that will provide further pedestrian connection to the commercial subdivision that's already occurred alongside Little Road. And then to the north of that pond in orange, we can see the internal
six-foot trail that's proposed along the north side of that pond that comes down uh through that uh what could have been a lot green space as you connect onto one of those internal roads. This is a connectivity exhibit provided by the applicant with drone shots that
overlays those those same color coordination to the 8ft, 6 foot, and 5 foot of the uh the pedestrian facilities that we're talking about being constructed with this project as it pertains to the site aerially. You can see they're highlighted in orange, in red, and then in green and
yellow along the project frontage. There is one LDC variation with this product project from 9016D11 street design and dedication requirements. The applicant request to not provide a vehicular interconnection to the north or to the west. >> If you would stay on that slide for a
second. U >> I've got an issue with not connecting. So, if you would again, our code says they need to they should be connecting. We're letting them they're seeking a variation of that. Would you go back to
the slide that showed the layout right there? So, there's a road that runs north south that they could connect to. Correct. I believe you're you're talking about King Healey that runs north south on the uh >> I'm talking about in the development
right now. Go go go up from >> Oh, internal to the development. >> Internal to development. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. So, we have you got options on a roadway going right to the front from where the green open park space kind of like jolts in and goes all the way up to
the blue area where the drainage area is. There's opportunities there to connect to a roadway. Correct. there there would be an opportunity. Um I guess I hadn't I hadn't finished my my justification for the variation, but >> I know to so to the north of that is the
uh if I could go back to the aerial here, that's actually it would spit the uh the residents out right into the the loading zone of the uh of the Lowe's. They use that side access. And if if we could zoom in or go to mapper, it'd be helpful. But you can see that that's
actually their their loading area. It's pretty narrow and uh it's going to be a bunch of semi-truckss and larger box trucks delivering goods there. You can you can see there on the right there with that delivery bay where they stack all their old pallets. So that was one of the reasons staff didn't feel like a
connection was feasible to the north >> and that's to the north. Okay. So let's talk to the west because that's my biggest issue is the west. >> Can you Oh, let me take it back to the binding plan. Are you guys controlling it or I am? I am.
Okay, I appreciate it. So on on the So let's look at the west part. The west part comes out into a small little roadway that's that would get them to all the commercial in this whole area. >> Yeah. But >> get them off lane, get them off to the
side. No big trucks running through there and they can get on there and save all those trips that go in there. Pedestrians's great, but I don't think if you're going to go to Lowe's and pick up some 2x4s, etc. going to be coming back and carrying those thing back in a in a bicycle card or something else. So
to have all that commercial right there to take these people out on Ross Lane when I don't need to to not put them in there. I don't know why you guys would allow them to go against our code and look for a variation with that. I would have made them put that in there. And I think this board, Commissioner Stark, we talk all the time about how we try to
interconnect. >> I did talk to the applicants attorney during lunchtime about that same thing. And I think when she comes up to present, she's going to tell you they're prohibited to connect by the property owners. >> Is that part of your presentation? >> I'm going to let the applicant speak to the to the to those legalities. I
>> I I can't imagine. >> Yeah. They don't >> having commercial property that's supposed to be commercial property not connecting to that roadway. Does that make any sense to anybody? Think about it. They're converting commercial property along that slot and they're going to tell me that I have the commercial property and I can't connect.
Absolutely absurd. >> Well, sure. If if I if I may, Stamp's variation analysis uh it its support didn't hinge upon the legalities of a connection being uh provided by some kind of property ass property owners or commercial associations uh prohibitions
in in an ECR. However, our justification relied upon the We could go back to the binding concept. Let me let me stop you for a second. Go back to where you showed the commercial parial of the property that that is along that roadway. >> The
go back to >> take take me back to that map. >> It's in there. There's another slide that shows before development what part is commercial, what's part residential. >> Do do the do the future land use map where it shows the the comm polygon. Thank you.
>> Sure. So, >> so if I'm looking at that piece of property that says commercial and I own that piece of property, you're going to say that I don't have the right. You think they got the right not to connect to that property right beside it? >> Well, so this applicant
>> if if it's private road and they don't have >> Well, this this that commercial piece is a is a portion of this this application. So, it would no longer have the commercial flu. It'll be a part of this this residential development. That's I don't think that's what he's saying. >> I'm just saying if I own that >> commercial piece
>> from that if I have that commercial piece. >> Are you talking Are you speaking of the portion highlighted in red or the out parcels there in yellow? >> I'm I think I'm looking at the part that says calm >> that's right there and those four lots that are right to the side of it that are beige. That slot that's right in
there, that commercial piece of property all the way through. There's a roadway right in front of it and we don't think they have a right to connect to that. Well, so that commercial portion is a part of this. I >> I know. So, I'm saying is you're saying that residential can't connect to it.
What I'm telling you is before we change this over that if I've got a commercial piece of property, I got to think I got rights to connect to that. >> Well, I can let the the applicant speak to the the legalities behind the ECR. I'd still like to go through the staff variation analysis outside of the ECR as
to why we would support this request if that's all right. >> Yeah. >> Go ahead. Thank you. So, could I have the binding concept plan up, please?
So PTE felt that the the preservation of open space that's being enhanced by the nature trail as well as accommodating a pedestrian um a pedestrian feature to to the commercial site was was worth not having the connection when the
connection is going to be made via Ross Lane on the organically forming internal frontage road that's happening via commercial subdivision that would allow vehicular access to go north and south rather then circulate through this neighborhood which could be um accessed by pedestrians to the commercial out
parcels. If one needed to go to Lowe's, you'd simply get on Ross Lane at where in the CIP we are signalizing that intersection and then go straight north to Lowe's without having to get on to Little Road. So, you think it's better to go down Ross Lane, which has got
another neighborhood behind it, got a VA, all 74 lots going through to go take a go out here on Little Road, take a right turn, take a right turn back in, then where they're going to return, they're going to go back on Little Road, take a left turn, and a left left turn in again as opposed to driving internally going right to Lowe's. You
think that's a better way to go? >> I don't I don't know if I directionally followed you there. All I what I can tell you is that >> let me let me help there's a let me let me help let me help you. I'm going to explain it to you. If I'm inside that development and I have a connection to the road that's in front of this
property and I can go take a right turn and go right into Lowe's. I think it's a lot quicker, simple, and easier coming back. I'll stay in the same internal road, staying off Ross Lane, staying off Little Road, no turns and no extra demand on the traffic that's out there. It's the connectivity
which we talk about all the time. Neighborhoods to neighborhoods. I'm talking about a residential neighborhood connecting to to the commercial that's right there. >> Well, with with this proposal with the organic internal frontage roads that's happening in this scenario, you wouldn't
have to go back out on Little Road whether you're going to or from Lowe's. >> How are you going to get there? >> Right on Ross. >> Yep. Just take a ride out onto Ross. Uh it's about 500 feet right onto the internal frontage road and then you you
go north without getting on Little Road. the the street pattern is has organically formed through commercial subdivision of that piece that's grayed out there. I'm still going on Rosal though, >> but happy to uh happy to let the applicant speak to the to the ECR as to
as to the legality of their connection. I just wanted to make sure that that staff's point was clear that outside of that ECR, these were the reasons that we were amanable to the applicant's request. >> Tell me about the intersection Ross Lane Little Road. What's going to be out there? >> Sure. So there is uh 30% signal plans
that are done for the signalization of uh of that intersection and it has it's on the CIP in fiscal year 27 to be complete as well as those uh the the aforementioned uh pedestrian improvements that are occurring along Rosslaid. The VA built their portion to
the south to their access point as well as a portion of this um I guess some some textbook cleanup had to happen. the Ross Lane wasn't actually on the county maintenance schedule and I I know that within a within a month or two the resolution is going to be brought
forward to bring this county road back onto the to the county maintenance schedule >> at the intersection on the lanes going out. Is there two lanes or one lane at the intersection? >> Sure. As a part of that that design, they are um contemplating additional
lanes to help capacity there >> for for right turn movement, left turn movement and a through. >> Right. I'm going to have 74 cars plus the neighborhood plus the VA. And to reduce the stacking, I would think that we would automatically put in that we
would have a right turn lane and a left turn lane to be able to go out. >> Yes, sir. But the turn lanes are a part of that that design for that intersection. >> Okay. So, it's not just being contemplated being designed. >> We already have 30% design for that intersection. Yes, sir.
This comes to you with the recommendation of approval from planning, development, economic growth and the planning commission. I'm here for any questions. >> I do have one question. Um I already um I I I wanted the same thing, Commissioner, the connectivity, but I
think you're going to hear that it's not possible. But um can you go back to the just the previous map? Uh that one you're showing. What is this connection here? Because isn't that a is that north
of what is what is that gated community there? >> I had some friends that used to live in there. >> Crescent Crescent Forest. That road is connecting into Crescent Forest or is this past Crescent Forest? >> That's actually past uh Crescent Forest. There's one home back there.
>> Yes. >> For the access and then the rest of the neighborhood uses Ross Lane. So this so that there is a future connection happening here. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. Well, that I got one anyway >> for one home. >> No. No. Is that Oh, is that only for one
home? >> It's for that you that property could be redeveloped. It's a large a large property. At some point in time, it could be redeveloped and the the connection will have will be easier to be made with this stuff out. >> Oh, I see. It's what
>> they'll need access. >> Okay. So that's one big piece. All right. Well, I think you need to hear from the applicant, but I am I I am going to talk to them about street trees. >> All right. Any >> I learned we don't require >> any of the questions for staff,
>> which I'm going to make them. >> All right. Let's hear from the applicant. >> Thank you. >> Heck yeah. >> Good afternoon. Since you're hearing the MPD at the same time, do you want to swear us in? >> We can do that. At this time, if there are anyone in the
audience that expects to speak to any of the reszoning items that are going to be coming up, if you would please stand again, if you anticipate speaking to any of the zoning items on the agenda, if you please rise and raise your right
hand, do you and each of you swear to tell the truth in the matters being presented? So, have you got >> I do. At the time you come forward, if you please when you give yourself a name and your address, if you'd please acknowledge that you were sworn. Thank you. >> Mr. Chair, do you want to do procedures
at this point too? >> Good. Let's do procedures. >> There are two reasonzoning agendas regular consent. Staff will present each application to the board of county commissioners. If staff for planning commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition, the application will be considered by the board without
further presentation. If staff for planning commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application, the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation. The opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative. And the
applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal. Any individual disagreeing with staff or planning commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the reszoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda. in which
case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during the meeting. Otherwise, all resoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote. If you wish to speak to any petition, please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the
record. These are quasi judicial public hearings. The law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action. Please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's land development code.
Okay. >> Barbara will height 6327 Graham Boulevard, Newport Richie. For the applicant, this is just an overall context slide. I think staff has already shown you a similar slide. This one's just backed out a little bit more where you can see the VA to the south, the commercial
development to the west, the newer commercial development to the west, and then the more legacy development uh more towards the north. As staff showed you, that is the um the zoning map. You can see the little bit of commercial. I would call that remnant commercial. What happens is when the
county sets zoning district lines and comp plan lines, doesn't necessarily match the depth of the commercial. This depth has been defined as the commercial that exists uh to our west. Um and so that's why you see that overlap
and there is the comm overlap. Under the current f future land use, the property could have 421 dwelling units. We're proposing 74 and 82% uh less in dwelling units. I can tell you we had a voluntary neighborhood
meeting and given what other people have proposed on this property. A lot of our neighbors are very happy that we're doing 60-foot single family homes to their beautiful homes to our east, single family detached to single family detached, and that we've got such a low
density compared to what could be here. The the future land use um provides for a very large on a calculation standpoint, a very large amount of square feet. The current height, there's no m there's no maximum height because this is in the urban service area. We're
proposing two stories Single as I mentioned 74 single family homes 60 foot lots on square 6,000 square foot 60 foot lots on 6,000 square foot lots we have produced a binding concept plan we're exceeding policy member PM26
to answer commissioner Starky she had me look at street trees PM26 actually is not required for 60 foot lots but we are complying with it but your PM26 requires two trees per lot um One can be in the front, two can be in
the front. One can be in the front, one can be in the side or the rear, but there is no requirement for a street tree. You can use your front tree in the street if you'd like or on the front of your lot. At the request of the commissioner, we anticipate this is going to be a very nice subdivision. Um, we will add a street tree.
>> Thank you. >> We need to work out that language with staff. Yes, it's an addition. So you two the current conditions say there's two trees required. We'll add a third tree and require that that one be a street tree. >> I want to make sure it's not a crepe myrtle
>> or an understood tree. It's a shade tree. >> We Yes, that's fine. We need do need to work on the specifics of that language. Hopefully if you approve this today, we can we can work that out um in the final details, but we the client is happy to do that. So we're exceeding exceeding
PM26. that doesn't apply with that. We have the monoton control, the architectural features, the HOA manage of our on street parking, all the things that you put into PM26. These are example elevations of our 60oot product. You can see u we're bringing back the
threecar garages, which I used to have a home before I bought my home in Golf Harbors that had three-car garage. Uh very nice product. This is the binding concept plan that you've looked at. I think staff has gone over the connectivity u pedestrian connectivity.
There were gaps in the pedestrian connectivity that we have filled in. I think there's a better way to show it which is the drone aerial shots that um Tampa Civil did. So this is the built environment. When you look at this is looking to the
east and we've got Little Road going north south. Ross Lane is to to our right and the commercial development when you heard staff talking about this organic reverse frontage road it is an actual requirement. What's interesting is the commercial
project to our west and all of the commercial development to the north are part of a declaration. This property is not even though it has comm on it is not part of that declaration. I am under oath. So what I'm telling you is factual. I have a
legal opinion that we didn't just say this. The county attorney's office made us prove it. We proved and to their satisfaction that this property is not part of that declaration and does not have legal access to their private and they're not roads. They're driveways.
They're private driveways. >> Can you can you explain what a declaration is because that's not something >> it's you could call it a covenant of restrictions. It's a it is a what I'm not a transactional attorney. >> Deed restriction basically. restrictions. It's a it's a recorded
document that has conditions for that specific development much like you're used to seeing as an MPD condition, except it only applies to the property that it attaches to and is recorded um in advance of sale of lots.
>> And so when the commercial development came forward, because I represent the commercial development, the county made sure that this reverse frontage road was put in. There was a gap that they didn't own on Wendy's property because they were all subject to the same declaration.
This property does not have the benefit of the subject property that we're reszoning. Wendy's had to accommodate that leg of the driveway that goes up to King Healey, the light at King Healey. So, very purposefully, the county said, Mr.
The son Kale who's here said there will be a reverse frontage road going from Ross. So anybody on Ross Lane doesn't have to get out including this project does not have to get out on little road and can go up and through here. So the vehicular connectivity
running having its own frontage road is going in and will be there. There was gaps in the pedestrian network >> and why is >> so why was there gaps? So there's two gaps. One is on Ross Lane
because your current your exist your prior code I don't know if they I think they fixed it when they just redid your code doing with pedestrian facilities but when a project comes in for development there's a requirement that they put sidewalk in. So when the I
don't remember what the corner is if it's Chipoti or or what what the user was at that corner of Little and Ross, but they're in for review. That one they had to do a sidewalk, but behind them was a pond and so they didn't trigger the sidewalk.
>> We have to say so >> and but I you know so I think they've been on this you this has happened a bit ago but under the old code. So we came in and we say look we don't want our folks walking in the dirt. you know, they're going to we're going to put a sidewalk in, then they'll be we'll put
the extension of the sidewalk off site. So, that is provided for. When you look at the frontage road, the frontage road has pedestrian facilities into it. >> I think it m I think it might not. >> There you go.
>> My laptop's getting in the way. The frontage road has a pedestrian facility into it up to the point where they put the driveway in on Wendy's property. no pedestrian facility. So the gap another gap. So you know we don't just kind of
put this thing these things to you. We actually look at them and try to make sure things make sense and that we do what we need to do. So here where the red is that's a gap. So when folks would if we didn't fix that folks would come down and walk along the new frontage
road and then walk in the dirt or on the road to get to Lowe's. So we're fixing that with this project. That'll be an eightft path. Red is eight foot path. We're bringing an eight-foot path out of our project and then putting the new eight foot path. So there'll be pedestrian facility all along that reverse frontage road, the reverse
frontage road and that's what we are doing as part of our project. So I hope that answers the questions there. I would just say the other thing about the interesting about that declaration is it's not a association, it's an
ownership and there's six to at least six to eight property owners, national property owners. Um, when the commercial folks came in, they worked with just Wendy's because they were already benefiting from that declaration, >> but it took them, I don't know, a year. Yeah.
>> Two years to to get the approval from Wendy's to put in the road that was contemplated by the declaration. So it's >> kind of crazy that >> those so those all those property owners and and when you look at King Healey as the as you come up to the light between Wendy's and KFC that road that property
where the road is is owned by Kentucky Fried Chicken. So it's not just like so simple to say you should it makes sense to we can't just go back to the previous slide. Mhm.
>> So from that angle to where the red line is heading to the north. >> Yes. >> That property is partially commercial now. Correct. >> Part of our parcel has commercial zoning on it. It's about 5.7 acres of
commercial zoning and part of it has a comm land used 14 acres of comm land use. the zoning and the land use don't match the ownership lines and the >> okay >> land use doesn't match >> but but where where it says it's on the left side of the screen it says 8 foot
wide bicycle pedestrian access that you have right there that section right there is that commercial now or is that residential >> um that zoning is commercial >> okay so my my straight question is this if it stayed commercial would they have access to get
>> no matter what >> they're going to landlock then No. >> What? That's kind of crazy. >> Well, that's >> Well, they come out to Ross. >> That's because sometimes a lot of times our zoning district lines, our land use lines don't match property ownership lines, and this is an example of that.
>> Okay. And I I'll say for everyone to know, Barbara and I had did have this discussion. Um, you were going to check to it. I never heard back from you, so I don't know. And we'll hear in >> perfectly. We've we've been asked this question a bunch. It's so it's an absolutely appropriate question. We the county attorneys asked it, staff asked
it. So we are we are >> and our commercial and our attorneys agree that there is no action that can be had. >> David, I'm assuming you you've reviewed this. >> Is that it? I I there was no reasoning in the opinion. So I can't say whether I
agree or disagree. >> But we did we hire because I don't do real estate. So it wasn't my opinion. The client hired real estate council to give a legal opinion and they put a legal opinion signed by them and their firm that we are this property is not
benefiting or subject to that declaration. is not part of that declaration which I knew because I've been representing this property before it was single family homes when it was multif family rentals for the sake of the property owners
around it's and I think hopefully the county everybody's very happy with this client um and the single family detached homes but so but I they hired a real estate council and a fine law firm to review the issue and issue a legal opinion
>> that is to get to the commissioner's point. If they have no easements of record, they can't connect to the commercial >> no matter what the land use or >> no matter what the >> okay
>> it's it you know >> but all right that's that's why I want to make sure because it just doesn't make sense to me >> I don't I can't tell you that that's the facts but what Barbara is saying is >> the the commercial property that it
currently exists is under one one easement, one covenant document which provides for the easements. This property is excluded from it. In which case, they would have to purchase the right to connect to it if they wanted to
connect to it. >> If nine national >> owners wanted to even entertain a phone call, >> right? >> So, Mr. Sty, >> um I agree. You know, that was the first thing I talked to her about. Said, "Well, we're going to we need that to
connect." But I got what you just got. But I also um I was concerned about the width of the bicycle pedestrian access and I'm very happy that it's 8 ft. Um this could be a golf cart community and I know we keep talking about them going
to Lowe's, but the reality is hopefully they're going to go to those restaurants and help keep those restaurants afloat probably more than they're going to go to Lowe's. So, but they can tood around in their golf carts from this neighborhood. >> They can. >> Next. Yeah,
>> that's correct. They'll be able to access all of that commercial, including Ruby Tuesdays. And >> I do um I do question why we didn't make whoever put that pond in put a sidewalk along the front of it. What What was
missing in our code? I know you and I have talked about missing gaps all over the place and that just seems like we missed something staff-wise or or somehow or or us up here that they
got away without what the sidewalk goes to the pond and then just dumps you in the dirt. >> That's correct. >> That's not okay. >> But I think that mean the count your staff just brought forward and amended pedestrian facilities. We letting that happen before. It's just my question. >> Okay.
>> They just need to look at it as subdivision review because if you look at it piece by piece after subdivision review, you only see your piece. But subdivision review, they look at all of it. So, >> all right. Well, that was my biggest heartache with the piece. I'm glad my attorneys looked at it and if if you guys are comfortable that there's nothing they could do except go through
nine firms and try to get over. >> We even took it to a private law firm that that's what they do and they looked at it and opined. I mean that based what I'm testifying is what based upon what they gave me because I don't do that type of work. So, >> okay. All right. My questions are answered. Uh any more questions for
Barbara? Let's go to public comment. Anyone from the public want to speak to this item? E either item. Actually, have three minutes for each. That's item P38 and P43. for presentation for the board. >> Move to receive and file. >> Second. >> All in favor say I.
>> I. >> I. >> As usual, they do a wonderful job of their presentations. What they didn't mention to you, >> excuse me, sir. >> Yes, I'm sorry. Alan Rose, 10221 Hilltop Drive, Newport Richie. And yes, I've been sworn in. >> Thank you.
>> And uh they did a nice job. Something that that's not been brought forward is the connection to Rocky Sink. Rocky Sink already backs up and flows reverse because of all the development that's been in this area. I've been down there personally and watched it. I've sent you pictures of Rocky Sink flowing
backwards. So with that happening, you're going to flood out Cranes Roost, Bass Lake, and Golden Acres. Thank you very much. That's the important part of this because it's not being addressed in a lot of our developments. A lot of people are not addressing the riparian flow of our waterways and you're going
to see more and more flooding. I already have seen enough flooding golden acres. It can all be fixed, but it's not being addressed. You know, uh, Rocky sink can have an alternative outflow, but it doesn't right now because it hasn't been addressed. The Tanglewood spill well
spillway, you have a twoft difference in water flow from the top to the bottom, even with the gates open. Shouldn't be because there's so many blockages in the Tanglewood spillway. This development will put pressure on our side of the road because that's where we have a natural spillway out to Rocky Sink. Then
also to our east, the development Tanglewood will see the water the riparian flow being pressured to them. And since the Tanglewood spillway is nonfunctional, Tanglewood will flood out. That's my point. And I gave you a presentation. This presentation will
apply to others throughout the throughout the county. I've I've been out to date city. I've witnessed the same similar activities happen in Dade City and quite often, you know, you have all of the uh beautiful drainage ditches and whatnot designed, they're designed to contain the pollution in accordance
with DP regulations. There is no nothing out there that I have found yet that's addressing the riparian flows and the additional flow that we're going to be encountering, especially in my neighborhood. Thank you. anyone else here to speak to this item.
>> Um on that on those on those comments that he was making, I I seem to recall um when Commissioner Wells was up here, they did a lot of work on that in that area drainage work on rock, what do you call it? Rocky something.
>> As I recall, part part of Magnolia Valley was going to be able to actually build it the way we were going to build it. actually would be able to hold water coming from the east or the west. So that could actually take some water from this area here. Um I I can say Alan if you if you watch the apartments on uh
Ridge Road up there that were being built in the tangle entryway. I did have there was one area there was like a a wetland that was kind of low. Uh I did have it checked out thoroughly. David Allen did a great job with his team and there wasn't a connection to Rock Sank. It was just a just a low area where the water drained to
>> that connects to the Tango Spillway, not the Rocky Sink. Well, and I but I will address I will address I br up this the the tangled wood spillway. We will take a look at that. But just that one area I had some calls on it that I did look at >> what they changed looks very nice and that should that should appropriate handle handle that section
>> but it's going to cause a lot more pressure and Tanglewood's going to see you get this on the other side. Yeah. >> You're going to have a lot of flooding in Tangle. >> I'll be happy to work with you and Brford to go look at that and and study that issue where it's off to make sure we can if there's the correct ability to to correct that. >> Thank you.
And we are we are already flooding across Ridge Road on the other side because that's a natural spillway for us. That's how it was built and designed. And you can go over there and watch the flow go under Ridge Road. Run for the mic so we can pick you up. Sorry. >> You you can go and watch the the flow
from Tangle Wood best lake. You can watch that flow going to Tangle going to Rocky Sink. But because of all the developments that's been to the south of Rocky Sink now, it doesn't naturally flow like it used to. It fills up fast and then it reverses course and it floods back in. I watched all the all of
the uh docks and bass lake go underwater and I watched the homes we all have acorage. Okay. And I watched everyone dealing with their their livestock and the cross connection to Tim Oaks with you. But if you would get with Colleen let us get the meeting set up. >> Okay. >> Thanks.
>> All right. So no one else to speak to this item. We'll close public comment. No one online. >> No sir. >> Okay. So to the board >> move approval >> first. Oh hang on. First item would be P38. >> P38 roll. >> Excuse me. I want to make sure that the
motion includes the U addition of the street. >> That'll be the second P3. P3 land use first. >> I have a motion from Commissioner Oakley. >> Y approval. >> Second >> and a second. Commissioner Starky. Roll call vote. >> District one. Commissioner Oakley. >> I.
>> District two. Commissioner Stark Wakeman. >> Hi. >> District three. Commissioner Starky. >> Hi. >> District four. Commissioner Jagger. >> Hi. >> District five. Mariano. >> I I'll go P item P43. >> U. Mr. Chairman, before you take a
motion, let's get the conditions out. Um Barbara, I'm looking at 10 A. >> That's already in your conditions. >> Um I'm I know what you want to do. I'm Let
me get there. um which reads, "Each single family detached lot shall have a minimum of two two trees on or in front of the lot, one of which may be in the side or backyard and one of which must be in the front of the home.
Strike but may be either and say additionally a street tree shall be in the front of the lot >> that is not a crepe myrtle >> or understory. That must be a canopy tree.
>> Y >> that work for you? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Is that so we require three trees? >> I thought that was the office. >> Okay. I know. I was trying to grab my my engineer. >> One can be in the back. >> So yeah. So I I left the minimum of two
trees and then have additionally a canopy street tree. Additionally, there shall be a canopy street tree in the >> or is that shade tree? Let's let's have >> street. >> Let's have the engineer help. >> Jeremy Couch, Tampa Civil. I have been
sworn. Um so, um Mr. Stein Snider, I'm thinking it should say each single family detail attached lot shall have a minimum of three trees. And then um >> you got to do more work if you do that.
>> No, that's what they have to do. One of which shall be a shade species street tree located between the back of curb and face of sidewalk. >> Okay. Now, so you raised a question to
me. Um what what do we define as a tree? >> You you have a definition in your land development code commissioner for what shade trees are versus ornamental trees. Okay. >> So, there's a specific list of species.
>> One palm tree is a tree or it's three palm trees. >> I don't think those categorize as shade trees. >> No, I'm not saying shade tree. I'm talking about the one that could be in the back or the front. The other ones. What are those? >> So, the >> I mean, are you going to tell me a legustrum counts or a
>> Patrick's Craig Myrtle? >> Um, I'll just talk to myself. Uh Patrick Deder, planning and development development review director. Um so lot trees are required to be shade trees. >> Okay. >> And we have uh in the development manual a list of different categories. So trees, shade trees, ornamental trees, palm trees. So they will have to be of
the shade tree variety. >> Did you say a a palm tree? Was it >> palm trees separate category? There are larger palms that can be counted as shade tree, but no single family home is going to buy one of those very large expensive palms to count as a shade tree. So >> Okay. Um,
>> all right. That was my question. >> Which definition do you want? >> I'm good. That covers it. >> Which which definition do we are we gonna go with though? >> I I what >> your definition is with it was is within your code and I wouldn't I wouldn't change it for a specific condition. You
need to go back and change your land development code if you what the condition the way you spoke or the way the spoke. I think that that what Jeremy proposed is fine. Um so it it would just be um it would
designate a minimum of three trees, one of one of which would be a shade a canopy >> or shade is the word. >> A shade is the word he used. A shade shade street tree >> that is. So, are you saying the others
can be No, I I don't think I think that is not the code. Let Let me hear him say what the code is. Then I need to >> I I think Jeff was just being specific to the code already requires those lot trees to be shade trees. I think Jeff was also just specifically clarifying
that the additional street tree also needs to be a shade tree. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> I promise we'll get this wording right. >> Okay. Remember that wording because it's coming on whatever else is coming. Did you want to put where the location where he said
of the tree or no? >> All right. So, let's do this. So, for P43, we're going to look for the condition from the county attorney to be stated. Then we'll look for a motion >> or you can leave it to the county attorney to approve after
>> your motion the actual language. >> I think do that often. They do a really good job. >> They can they have to have three trees. One of which they're all shade. One of which is a street tree. One could be in the front or the side and the other one has to be in the back. >> That's your motion.
>> Is that your motion? >> Am I right? >> Yes. >> Second. >> All in favor say I. >> I. I. >> Any opposed? >> Thank you, commissioners. >> I do think we should add that to our code though. >> Yes, I agree. I I I an engineer brought
that to my attention that we were not requiring species. a flaw. >> It's the exhibit. It's exhibit D. >> Yeah. >> All right. Orders number P39.
>> P39. We approve publication of the hearing of this of the hearing of this map. um in the November 9th edition of the Tampa Bay Times uh 2025 supplemented by
an affidavit to certified mailings and site postings. >> Good afternoon. Amy Tol, Planning Development and Economic Growth. Uh item P39 is the adoption hearing for an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan providing for a
comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map 2-15 and sheet 19 from comm to PD plan development on approximately 15.36 acres of real property located on the north side of state road 54 approximately.3 miles
south we southeast excuse me of the intersection of state road 54 in Starky Boulevard and a text amendment creating sub area policy flu 7.1.80 Blackwell mixeduse PD and a map amendment to the future land use map 2-9
adding sub area map 2-980 Blackwell mixeduse PD and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for uh severability repealer severability and an effective date. This comes with
you comes to you, excuse me, with a recommendation to accept public comment and adopt the ordinance by roll call vote. Uh there is a presentation available if necessary. This is also the companion comprehensive plan amendment to item P44, which is the uh MPD
resoning. >> I want to have a presentation, please. >> Sure. Would you like to hear them both together? >> Uh yes. >> Okay. All right. So, the item before you right now is the comprehensive plan amendment. As stated, it is a small-scale comprehensive plan
amendment from COM commercial to PD plan development. The intent is to allow for a mixeduse development consisting of 290 multif family dwelling units and 100,000 square feet of commercial medical office and retail uses on approximately 15.36
acres. The substract site is located north on the north side of state road 54 approximately.3 miles southeast of the intersection of state road 54 and Starky Boulevard. This is also creating sub area policy flu 7.1.80
with the companion sub area policy map as well as there's a companion or an accompanying MPD resoning. Here's a county location map. The subject site is located in the South Market area and the urban service area.
>> Here's a visual of the context map. As you can see, it is located on the east side of Starky Boulevard just north of State Road 54. The projects or current MPDs that are in proximity as a Longleaf MPD, Starky Ranch MPD to the north,
Mitchell SJP MPD to the south, and Mitchell Ranch East MPUD to the west. Here are the entitlements that were previously approved in all of those MPDs. There is also an 8-oot sidewalk on the north side of State Road 54.
Here's just an aerial view zoomed in so you can see the subject site. The existing future land use of Calm Commercial, the proposed future land use of PD. This is a screenshot or a visual of the
sub proposed sub area policy. Uh there is 290 dwelling units, multif family apartments that are proposed uh non-residential uses of 100,000 square feet with additional uh development standards in
place that the MPD will implement. >> Here's a proposed conceptual plan that goes alongside the sub area policy of the comprehensive plan amendment. And the proposed amendment is consistent with the following comprehensive plan policies. The intent of the PD plan
development land use policy flu 1.6.1 policy flu 8.1.2 policy flu 1.8.7 policy flu 1.8.10 as well as policy flu 9.1.7. And with that, we recommend to accept
public comment and adopt the proposed comprehensive plan amendment by roll call vote. Um, and I can have the MPD come up unless you have some questions on the comp plan. >> I've I've just got a basic question. It talks about economic development being part of the
looking at it, talking about trips, etc. But the biggest problem I got is I'm going from commercial and I'm going from having two million square feet of com to 5% of that 100,000.
>> As I look at the U mobile home parks at one side, I'm looking at the um storage unit to the side. To me, it's a prime piece of commercial property. uh not the best for residential even though it's it's a mix of what's being proposed. But
why would I want to take two million of commercial square feet when I've got tons of apartments up and down 54 that people are clamoring for too much too much. Um and I'll gr I'll grant the commission over the past several years we've improved the amount of people that
are leaving this county to go to work, but I still think we still got a long way to go to getting to what would be very very successful to where I think our goals are. Um, so I'm just wondering why are we going to take two million square feet of commercial and bring it with such a heavy residential component
and consider that's a good economic plan. >> Sure. Um, so with this proposal and the general location, um, I've I have the context map up to show you what the improved entitlements are surrounding with the 2 million square feet of potential commercial. This is a free
range of commercial. So you could still get a storage. There's no prohib prohibitions or it's not prohibited in any way. You can still get your self storage, your gas stations, your car washes in its current platform, in its current position. Um I believe the zoning is AC, so it's it would need to
be reszoned to a compatible zoning district, but the full range of commercial opportunity can still occur here. What the applicant is proposing is even though they are reducing the commercial, the amount of
non-residential uses that are proposed are actually employment generating land uses. So they're your office uses, your multif or your um uh medical facilities, medical offices, those types of uses. in the proposal, they're not uh allowing
for um the car washes and the gas stations, as we know, proliferate this area. Additionally, this is also in the urban service area. The county has established the urban service area for purposes of focusing their density and intensity in that area. And so through
the levels of negotiation that we've had with the applicant in an opportunity to retain the employment generating land uses through the commercial opportunities, we've kind of downloaded that into the sub area policy in exchange for allowing the residential to
occur. There's also site design that was negotiated through this and so it almost acts as its uh little town center where the users can still activate and utilize the uh proposed non-residential uses, medical facilities, office, whatnot.
There's also connections on the east to those non-residential. And then this also shows the Mitchell SJP um with 100,000 square feet of non-residential that was just recently approved as well as 550,000 square foot business park. So this residential use
is acting as a companion to the non-residential uses that are coming into play. And we're not just allowing for full-on residential conversion. This is a mixeduse development that that prioritizes the already existing employment generating uses that could potentially occur through the calm flu
but also managing it with the residential that can support the surrounding uses. >> Sure. >> But the bottom line is I'm getting 5% of the commercial that I have now and I'm giving up 95% of that to hold onto this for office space. >> Correct. Thank you.
>> Yeah. So, but there is a demand that the problem I have with this resoning is there is a demand for light industrial and for office space and there is an influx of apartments already. Um, the sheriff's office concern was that they're already
stretched thin enough and we're adding more to that. And also the roads in failure so we're we're going to be adding more congestion to the road and like Commissioner Mariano said, we have all of that land there. or why would we give it up for apartments?
>> Sure. So, commercial actually allows for residential to occur. Um, in the calm flu, it is required to be vertically integrated if it is to occur. Um, the calm flu allows for 24 dwelling units per acre. So, they can still get up to
24 dwelling units right now. The proposed amount of density reduces that to 18. So, its overall impact on the network is actually reduced from what it can currently get now. But but you said it had to be vertically correct. >> That would have had to been vertically.
This is not vertically. >> This is not >> There is opportunities for vertical integration but it is not required. >> Okay. Let's go to the zoning. >> Sounds good. This would be P44.
We have proof of publication in the November 5th, 2025 edition of the Tampa Bay Times supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings to the site postings. >> Good afternoon, William Vermillion, Planning Development, Economic Growth.
This is PDE 267778, the companion to the Blackwell CPA. This is the Blackwell multif family office complex MPD. And before I get started today, I would like to enter some expartes into the record uh associated
with this project, as well as a letter from HCA Florida's CEO, Michael Irving, uh who expressed support for the residential here in relation to his hospital and the amount of employees they generate. Motion to receive and file. >> Second. >> Can I >> I'll move approval.
>> Move to approval >> or second. Motion >> a second. All in favor say I. >> I. >> Take a pick. Clap of course. Oh, this is a resoning request from AC agricultural to MPD master plan unit development district.
This is for the maximum development of 290 multif family units and 50,000 square feet of commercial and medical professional office on approximately 15.36 acres. This is on the north side
of State Road 54 about.3 miles east of the State Road 54 and Starky Boulevard intersection. The current location map, the current zoning map reflecting AC, the current future land use map of course reflecting comm.
Here is a contextual map to orient to to the south like uh Miss Tol had had previously stated is the Mitchell SJP business park uh which allows for roughly 630,000 square feet
of non-residential combined with 515,000 of that 630,000 proportion being allotted to the business park for employment generating land uses. The Starky Trail uh runs along the Duke easement that we can see there on the
west of the screen up to 54 before it crosses. This is the MPD master plan and this is the most illustrative version here that can show the commissioners uh exactly what an integrated
product this is while retaining that valuable commercial frontage and window with office and much more neighborhood friendly commercial uses along the frontage. So, I think an important thing to note would be previously like like
Amy mentioned, uh, commercial, it could have allowed for a whole host of uses that fell within general commercial C2. Of course, they'd have to come in for a zoning, but in this MPD, uh, the applicant worked with staff to restrict those commercial uses to neighborhood scale commercial, which is C1. So, we're
not talking about, you know, gas stations and self- storage. We're talking about neighborhood serving commercial that's going to be there aligning the corridor which is much more friendly to the walkability of the residential as well as professional office uh to contemplate the residential
component in the area. Here we can see the pedestrian facilities that are on the north side of 54. This project directly connects to those red dotted lines. I know that it's a little bit tough to see if Could can you guys zoom in on just the just the
plan and cut all the words out? >> That hurt my eye. >> I think I think is that is that a lot easier to see the detail there? I apologize for that. I should have zoomed in earlier. So those red dotted lines there illustrate the pedestrian connectivity that allows pedestrians to
go from 54 to the non-residential professional office and C1 neighborhood scale uses up the boulevard as you move into the project with with angled on street parking. Access some of those park features that are both uh adjacent to both those first two buildings of
multif family. As you move north, the orientation of the buildings lends to the pedestrian scale as you move further north into the larger central park and finally towards the trail that goes around that storm water pond. And I would like to to point out that right
now it's currently shown as those two reds being 5 foot, but the applicant has voluntarily agreed to make that leg uh running north to south 8 ft to accommodate for the the amount of volume of pedestrian users that we could see here. as this project
pedestrian um provides a pedestrian connection there up to the northeast to the existing Starky Blueberry Farm where a pedestrian connection is is currently being contemplated through their their residential subdivision. That residential subdivision and its internal pedestrian connectivity would allow
residents both from this development to circulate north to the multi-use path along Lake Blanch as well as allow users from or residents from the Starky Blueberry Farm to circulate south to the signalized intersection that's being put in here at 54 of which this project is
paying its proportional share with Mitchell SJP to be able to safely cross into the employment generating area. I believe I'd like to can I move while it's zoom in or not? >> Sure. >> So on that part to this side where it'll
it'll connect up to Starky. Is that going to be a vehicular access or if not why not? >> Sure. That that's because the uh the Starky blueberry farm its res subs were already approved with no vehicular access there. So the the best that staff could do was was work with the the engineer of record with that with that
site plan because one wasn't contemplated there um previously and what we were able to fit there was that 8 foot pedestrian path connection to allow circulation up to Lake Blanch. >> Do you think part of it might have been not contemplated because it was going to be a commercial site instead of a residential site?
>> Uh I I wouldn't believe that I wouldn't believe that's the case. I I would feel that or actually looking at the documents I wouldn't feel I know uh the contemplation wasn't contemplated as the MPD as a whole. They actually had a connectivity plan that was approved with the entire MPD which showed their access
and at at such time when they provided connectivity plan at approval that area of Starky Ranch Blueberry Farm was always contemplated to be a storm water pond. >> Okay, >> Mr. Starky. >> Not not exactly. Um, originally there was a connection, but this property
owner chose to take it out. When we when we owned that, there was a connection to 54. >> Um, I don't know if now's the time to ask you. We you and I met about that's a
that that connection doesn't work with all those right turns if you're riding a bike or anything. So we talked about bringing that 8 foot straight down. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Coming over, but you didn't change the map.
>> Well, that's what I I was trying to explain on the record. The applicant is is amanable to that. We he just didn't have time to change his plan set with the engineer. However, as a part of the motion today, if the board was to to seek approval, we would like to add that
condition in that uh there is an illustration that I sent to him, which uh is consistent with our our talks that we had about both widening the path and changing the alignment to to remove some of those ride angles for uh bicyclists. Okay,
>> here's the the one variation from the code. This is from 9016D11 to not provide a vehicular connection to the north or to the west. So, if we if we go back to the west, there's the existing uh there's the existing community there um that currently exist
and didn't contemplate it didn't contemplate any connection here. It's the uh that is the country place community. And then to the north as as we just mentioned the the location of the storm water pond, the best that that we could do is provide a pedestrian connection to
the north to the uh to Solita or the blueberry farm. Uh with that, this project comes with a recommendation of approval with conditions from both the planning commission and planning development economic growth. I'm available for further questions. Any other questions
for staff? >> Not here from the applicant. Afternoon. Steve Booth, 3030 Starky Boulevard, representing the applicant. I wish that I had uh had the opportunity to record
everything that both Miss Null and the other gentlemen said because they've really laid out a good understanding of what this application is all about. And I think that uh I feel personally that it was addressed as far as the numbers
were concerned of commercial and the various uh locations in the immediate area especially across the street where there will be uh what I would believe would be adequate commercial. The as far
as the access is concerned to the north where they are suggesting an interconnect was not possible as far as the roadway was concerned because of the plan that um was put in place
related to the what he referred to as the Starky blueberry farm. But my client has agreed to the expanded sidewalk and and we'll will have to see how and where it's
going to be oriented because with the significant wetlands and the ponds to the north uh and the right turns that they spoke of is going to be somewhat of an unknown that while we agree in concept, we think we have to have the
opportunity to uh look at the actual suggested locations and working with staff to finalize a location that that works for both parties and for uh the county.
Uh with that being said, I'll try to answer any other questions that you might have. And we do have our engineer available to uh try and answer any other questions that I can't answer. Any
questions? Okay. Okay. Time for public comment. Anyone here from the public to speak to this item? >> Okay. It's to the board. We're going to go to the land use first. Move approval.
>> We're doing 39. >> PE 39. >> Second. No, you'd have to. >> Um, >> any further discussion? >> Yes. Um, so >> I I I didn't know whether I should or not recuse myself from this. Um, but
both the administrator and the applicant once and the county attorney said, "Do you have a conflict?" So maybe if three people are bringing this up, I'll just go ahead and recuse myself in the basis of caution. And I do that because
uh we have our own apartment complex that is approved. Uh just needs site plan approval right behind this one. And my husband is working on uh a project with the Mitchells across the street that has three across the
street apartments. So um I feel I should recuse myself just just to be on the safe side. >> All right. Um, I'll make a comment as far as in my basic fundamentals to losing this much
commercial space with so many apartments out and around the area, all the traffic that's in there that I'm not comfortable moving the land use forward. >> Yeah, I I agree with you. We have over an abundance of apartments. So, and the road's already in failure. So,
>> you're on a six lane road right in front of this project. True. But is six lanes enough? >> We'll go to the traffic that's out there. >> Yeah. >> How you going to add the other apartments that we just talked about? >> And I got more coming down the street having approval.
>> There's tons of them out there and it's it's just loaded with traffic. I get calls all the time about it and comments all the time about it. >> Yeah. >> So, >> the tough part is is st Sorry, Chairman, >> Mr. Wman. Sorry. >> The tough part is on this is you heard
staff. It diminishes the traffic count pretty significantly from what's currently approved on the site. Um, always bearing in mind the challenges that you bring up on 54 >> that way. There you go. Um, wow.
>> I hear you better. Better than coffee. >> Put it back where it So the the the tough part on this is is with staff saying that it taking the traffic situation the traffic situation at hand and there staff is said it's going to bring down traffic
volumes with this with this plan which I do think it complements what's going in with Mr. Mitchell's pro project across the street, especially with the red light. But the traffic the traffic argument alone, I I don't know if we're going to receive another another plan that comes
in that's going to have a lesser impact on the traffic situation. So, I mean, kind of is what it is at this point. So, it I don't know what what way to cut it. how many different ways to negotiate this
this project for what it is. Either way, I think is I don't know. Either way, it's going to impact traffic no matter what. And again, it's difficult. I just the board I think needs to be
careful to hold properties hostage in these types of situations which we're going to come up against because It's almost like if you're first, you got in and whenever a property owner wants to sell or or or evolve their
property, then they're being punished, if you will, that no, you can't do it because the road's already full. It's a tough it's a tough position to be in all the way around. But I just see more scenarios like this coming forward as Pasco grows. So, just something that I
think about and I just figure I pine on on that. >> Commissioner Jagger. The one point is that it's been our board's position to protect our employment areas and and that's what I would have to say to that is that we do
have a big parcel that something could go there, a big employment generator, whereas we really don't need any more apartments. So then in that's the case so then traffic the traffic argument would be
off the table then which is which is the argument that's before us right now is the big argument is oh 54 is full. Well the use alternative of this according to Amy it's going to potentially bring way more traffic than
what this project could. So unless there's some other professional opinions out there that that say otherwise, if you're looking at the big part of the decision being based on the volume, the new potential new volume of traffic on this stretch of 54,
then that goes the other way. So you know, let me give you my thoughts a little bit more, M. Commissioner Way, because when you look at it, it's it's there's a few facets to it. And first of all, we've been hearing for years all these traffic studies about how we're not in trouble with traffic and we look and we know there's traffic there and we
got evidence from stitch constituents that say it's jam-packed with traffic, but they say it's okay. What I look at is this is a commercial site. It's got to the side. It's got a a park to the side, mobile home park to the side. On
the land use part where we have all the flexibility say we like it or we don't like it. This is one to say if we're going to create jobs to take care of all the other residential, you know, is going all around there and I've got plenty of apartments going up and down the road and I got plenty of traffic now, never mind how it's going to get
worse and worse. If I can create jobs there, I'm going to say depending what goes on there as well, it'll help not only economically, but I think it goes actually the other way with it. Even though data will show to different things. It's commercial piece of property. We're supposed to be pro
protected our tax base even with what this does for taking away. It will take away jobs. Number one. Why do we want to take away jobs? We want people working here. We're still at 40% of our people leaving to go somewhere else. I want to see that number go down. And to take
away a prime set of property that's so accessible to so many people that to go put apartments in it when I can create jobs, I want to see the jobs. Mr. just just in what you said right then. You're telling me that we shouldn't
approve this because it's going to bring in more traffic. The road can't handle any more traffic. So, Miss Stark is going to come in a month from now or two months from now. Want her apartments to come in. >> We're going to say no also then and we're going to say no to the next group of the Mitchells.
>> Hers is already on and on. >> Her hers is already approved. >> Oh, it's already approved. Okay. that that was the comment she made was hers and and the property across the street had already been approved. >> Already been approved. Okay. >> And and just FYI for what's
>> so they don't create any problem that causes everybody from this point on not to be able to build apartments. >> I'm I'm going to say that Commissioner Oakley, I've I've heard out there that people have had enough apartments. They don't want to see anymore. And if I'm going to take good commercial property
and go turn it to more apartments, that's not what I'm hearing out there that the folks want to do. And in the land use plan with what we have in front of us, we don't have to approve it based upon what we see in front of us. And I tell you, if I think you were at the economic development program with
>> Commission too, and you you saw a slide in there saying there's actually an oversaturation now with apartments. There's starting to get to be too many. And I'm going to tell you from what's even coming our way, I think we're going to see more than we need anyway. So, do I need more? No. Do I want to see more jobs? Yes. I want to
>> So, we're going to put a moratorium on apartments from this day forward. >> I'm telling you right now, we're dealing with a land use issue right now that says, do I want to take 2 million square feet of office commercial space and go down to 5%. I'm going to say no. I don't want to see it go.
>> Mr. Chairman, I just don't think that's right. So >> right now this this situation is not looking at this pro apartment or for you know for against apartments. This comes down to the state of traffic and the congestion with what's going on
around it. And so either accept the fact that 54 is full and we're going to continue to be essentially, you know, up against making decisions on 54 and taking the traffic argument out that DOT did not construct this road the right way. We just have to
live with it, this board and future boards. So the decision today at hand is you approve a project that creates less traffic on 54 which everybody's well aware of or it doesn't get approved and then whatever project comes in creates
more traffic on 54 and then that's just the nature of the beast there. And so my my my viewpoint on this is the traffic situation because we're going to continue to hear about the traffic situation whether you're on east of 41
or or or west of 41 on 54. You're going to hear the similar story all along. So that's my position on this piece and on this decision today. And you know I you hear people they want to have lesser
traffic but for the record it's not for or against the product type 54. I think our decision my decisions and staffs out there is going to be based upon the volume of traffic of projects that will be added to 54. So the context in my
mind that's for our planning staff that's really what I'm thinking about but I don't think there's any way any way around it. So I guess it's 22. >> Um Mr. County Attorney just as a point of order I guess.
>> Um we did public comment. We ended public comment. I didn't give the applicant a chance to speak. Should I have or did I need to? Because there was no input from the public. There was no input from the public. >> There was nothing to report about. >> So there's so it's to the board. Okay. >> Yes. No. >> Sorry,
>> Mr. Chairman. I'd just like to make a comment if I could. >> I don't think it's appropriate, >> Mr. County Attorney. It >> it's that's completely up to the board whether whether you want to hear from the applicant's lawyer. >> Because we didn't get a chance at no but give you a chance to speak.
>> Thank you. Um, as far as the traffic issue is concerned, I think your professional staff is saying that it's going to reduce the traffic. And it's not, in my opinion, pertinent to think to say, well, people out there don't
like the traffic the way it is, and therefore, uh, I'm going to ignore what the staff has to say. Additionally, about the job situation, I um had not previously seen the letter
from Mike Irvin, the um CEO of HCA Hospital, which is just up the street. By far, by far the largest employer in the area and one of the largest uh in the county. and he specifically says he
supports this project as it will provide additional housing options for our 1,500 plus employees. So you're talking about housing then that the CEO of the hospital just up the
street would like to see because it would provide additional options for his employees. And I would submit that many many many of those jobs at the hospital are highpaying jobs. And then the staff
also said that the office that this that the applicant agreed to on the front portion of the the commercial in the office would likewise generate highpaying jobs. So that I really believe that both of those issues have
been adequately addressed and should be considered uh in this uh application. Thank you. >> Thank you. And I'll and I'll go back to uh I have considered all of that. Um when I consider again 2 million square
feet of commercial that can go there could create a lot of jobs even all sorts of doctor's office etc to go in there. Now we'll shorting ourselves to 5% of that total. For that reason, forget your traffic even. Um I want to
see the commercial jobs here and there's a great chance for a great office park. We we saw from Lane Mendelson over in Wesley Chapel. There's no office space where he's at trying to expand out. He can't expand out. I got to think Trinity is the same type of thing and the same gentleman that's out there with that that could have built an office park
there is willing to do something here. Um, I think there's potential for something much better than just more apartments in the area. >> Mr. Chairman, >> Commissioner Oak, >> I will say that uh word about the hospital down the street,500 employees,
they need extra apartments in the area to house their working force. and for those nurses and all that actually travel into the area to work and then they're close by very close by to facility they'll be working
>> and as we've heard there going to be a lot of apartments close by already and there's even more right down the street that aren't far away either >> and there's still in those apartments as well they're not full >> have a motion >> we have a motion to second call go should we call the ro
>> move I move to approve and he seconded >> should we call the role >> district one District 1, Commissioner Oakley. >> I. >> District two, Commissioner Wakeman. >> I. >> District three, Commissioner Starky abstains. District four, Commissioner Jagger. >> No.
>> District five, Chairman Mariono. >> Nay. >> 22. You need a majority to approve a comp plan amendment. So, it would die for >> fact majority. You don't have a majority. >> So, no need to get the zoning either.
You need you basically you can deny the zoning based on the fact that you would have to deny the zoning based on the fact that it is not consistent with the comprehensive plan. >> Do I have a motion for P44? >> I move to approve.
>> No to deny. >> So move to deny P44. >> Yes. >> Okay. I will second the motion. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Nay. >> I abstain. >> Nay. >> The record.
>> I can go back and forth with this. >> We have I mean we just had a motion to deny deny. >> Yeah. >> Go back to the other way. Get a motion to approve. We're going to have the same denial. >> No, it's the same thing. Same thing. It still just stops. >> It's not a You don't have a majority. We
don't have a majority to deny it or approve it. >> So it just dies. >> So it dies. Yeah, >> for the record with uh Commissioner Starky abstaining again. >> Yes. >> All right. >> P
40 begins the zoning um agenda. >> We have proof of publication of >> very much. We approved publication in the Tampa Bay Times November 5th, 2025, but supplemented by an affidavit of
certified mailings and site postings. >> Good afternoon, Amy Tol uh with planning, development, and economic growth. Item P40 is a zoning amendment in the name of Dubulus and Little MPD master plan unit development. Gan D Little, Terry W. Little, Peter A. Little
at all. It's a resoning request from an MPD master plan unit development to an MPD master plan unit development to amend the MPD and associated infrastructure on approximately 17.99 acres located approximately 300 ft south
of the Little Road and Decubulus Road intersection. Uh this comes with you with a recommendation of approval with conditions and there is an uh presentation if necessary. >> Uh this is on consent. It's our only consent item. Uh, is there any hearing
to speak in opposition to P40? Leave it on consent. Do we have a motion for consent? >> Approval. Second. >> All in favor say I. >> I. I. >> There two consents. >> No today. >> Is that a record too?
>> Oh. Okay. Item P41. >> P41. Proof of publication in the Tampa Bay Times November 9th, 2025 and November 16th, 2025 for the meeting of December 9th, 2025 where it was
continued to today. Good afternoon, Joanne Ravita, Real Property Division. This item was continued from the December 9th board meeting. The real property team has received a petition to vacate a portion of an undeveloped platted right ofway and
utility easement that was filed by Compass Land USA fund 1LP. The vacation will allow for the creation of two larger lots that will be accessed from Gilbert Street. That's lot number one
and that's lot number two. The transportation engineering department was consult >> Let me stop you for a second. >> Sure. I had asked for the continuence and commissioner all the commissioners agreed to it. I am comfortable with this item. Is everyone else comfortable with it too? >> I don't need a presentation.
>> So in in interest of time um everyone's comfortable with it. Uh is anyone here in the public want to hear it and speak against item P41? Okay. We have a motion forward for approval then. >> Move to approve. Second.
>> All in favor say I. I. >> Any opposed? >> Okay. P41's approved. Uh item P42, >> petition to vacate. We have proof of publication in the December 14th and December 21st editions 2025 of the Tampa
Bay Times. >> Good afternoon. Joanne Ravita, Real Property Division. The Real Property team has received a petition to vacate a portion of a platted utility easement filed by Greg and Veronica Johnson. There are no utilities located within the easement. All utilities are located
within the public right ofway along Gayen Street. Petitioner's lots have been unified and the platted easement dissects them. The purpose of this vacation is allow for future development. There were no objections to this petition and the team recommends
approval. >> Okay. Any questions for staff? Anyone here from the public to speak to this item? Anyone online? >> No, sir. >> We'll close public comment. Back to the board. Move approve. >> Second. >> All in favor say I. >> I.
>> I. Any oppose. Okay. We go to commissioner items. >> Mley. Oh, that was the end of find out where I'm at here.
Only had a couple of things. um had the opportunity to go spirit the community leader breakfast uh Atlanta lakes last Friday. Um showed the picture there and then um after that went on to honor
the uh grand opening of the Mafet Spiritus uh outpatient center on Friday, January 9th. And there we are. That's all I had for today. Okay. Thank
you, Commissioner Waitman. >> Yeah, thanks, Chair. Yeah, just very nice. I figured you'd have photos. You're better capturing photos of me, but very nice event at Moffett. Congratulations to everybody who was working on this prior to my time. Um,
saw a lot of happy faces from from working on this from from years to to present. And um, did you have pictures of Ford? You have the Ford pictures? any of those on yours? >> I didn't put them on the phone, but >> Oh, anyway. Well, we had congratulations
to Jarrett Ford, Commissioner Oakley, and Mariano and I uh for the opening of Jarrett Ford, which is pretty neat. We had Henry Ford II's granddaughter. >> Wow. >> Present uh at uh present and be there with the the the Jarrett family.
>> And that was a pretty pretty cool piece of American history and American business history to meet her. I tell you what, she is She's, you can tell she runs the ship and uh she's responsible for over 10,000 plus Ford locations domestically and
internationally. And so to have her come to Pasco County uh was was pretty neat. And then lastly, I want to thank Tony and the and the staff um for putting together the Farm Share uh event that's coming up
next Friday. Um, and we're going to have it at Life Church, which is in between Oakland Boulevard, Oakland Boulevard, and Old Pasco Road near the Grove. Expecting a pretty strong turnout. So, I want to thank everybody at County for for helping us put one of these on. I know it's been a long time coming for
this area. And if anybody's um uh wanting to come, weather might be a little bit warmer hopefully uh to help folks out. So, anyway, just wanted to thank everybody and and um that's all I have, Mr. Chair. >> Okay. Commissioner Joerger or Mr.
Starky. >> Um so uh >> he's not from comments. >> I um also uh attended I think Commissioner Mariana did as well. Um but he had gone by the time I got here uh the first new class
of the citizens academy. So um looks like another wonderful class. Um and I also attended the Spiro uh leadership breakfast and grand opening. I have a little story to tell. Some of you old-timers might remember Renatos, a
restaurant, uh restaurant that was on 54. Um uh one of the Renatos is in my bunko ladies group and um unfortunately both of them have cancer and uh she told
me that they would be going to the U Moffett Spiros campus for the first time last week instead of driving all the way down to Tampa for their treatment. and they were so excited that they could just, you know, go 10 minutes, 15
minutes around the corner and take up the whole day and and drive to Tampa. So, pretty cool that I got that I have friends that are being helped right right here in Pasco County. Um, we uh had the the budget and the
homeless workshop and uh also the economic forecast lunchon and um I attended the Riverside Village septic to sewer meeting and I have to tell you a little funny story. Oh, you can't read the writing on there. Um but
on that picture that gentleman is saying that um you know we went for a grant. If you remember, uh, Commissioner Simpson had told us he had set some money aside for septic to sewer conversions and when we were trying and trying to access some of that money um with, uh,
Representative Joerger, but we were we were I don't know, we've not been successful with that pot of money, but he was able to secure almost $1,000 a million dollars in the legislative uh, cycle last year. And but there was still a four to5 million dollar shortfall to
take about 70 or 80 houses and get them get them um onto county the county system because when it rains their septic system is in the street and the sidewalks just turn around. It's just they have to move out some of them go
stay with friends in heavy heavy rain. So we're at the meeting is it's actually at my church and they're mentioning they got 4.8 8 million from CDB CDBG money. So this is 7 8:00 at night and I'm
texting Brford and and uh county administrator like I don't recall voting on this. Um this isn't a lowinccome area. So how did they qualify? I didn't I didn't I was about to get up and say don't count your chickens yet because we
haven't voted on this with our CDBDR money and um and then I found out that the gentleman that who's back to us is a he is a consultant to FGUA what's the name of the company? Edund Jones. >> Jones Edmonds.
>> Jones Edmonds and he got a the project 100% funded with state CDBG funding. Now, I didn't even know that we could apply for state CDBG money, but apparently the state got who who here knows how much they got. And this gentleman was telling me how
much money he was bringing into all the other counties. >> Oh, the state DR. >> The state DR money. >> Okay. Yeah. >> So, I'm hoping that we can jump on the bandwagon and see what else we can apply for and definitely get some more septic to sewer money from the state. And what
else do they have that we can apply for? because I thought that since we only had our we got our CDBGDR money, we I didn't think I thought that was for the states that didn't get any, but that's not the case. >> Well, we had a direct allocation, which is rare.
>> We had a double dip. >> Well, I'll find out if we can. >> Well, well, I know we can because he said he got tens of millions of dollars for Lee County. Is Fort Myers in Lee County? >> Yep. He got tens of millions of dollars for Lee County to do septic to sewer
conversions. >> We should have Alfred and C Pines right on the list. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Can we can we reach out to them, Mike, and and make that happen? >> Yeah. Conor, >> they used to they work for us in the past. >> This a phone call. We'll we'll check it. >> 100% funding. The people don't even have to pitch in. >> That'd be huge.
>> Um Okay. Um I hosted a charity run for John Hopkins All Children's Hospital on Saturday. Um, there is Mike and his wife. Is this before or after you spilled her coffee? >> No, >> I think this is during. I think her hand is dripping with her coffee. Her latte.
>> Did you run? >> I walked it. I walked it. Yeah. This is my girlfriend and I walking it. >> Mr. T, we got a problem with this picture. >> Is it Is it Is it Is it okay to wear shorts and a winter hat? I don't know. There some there's something going there. I don't know.
>> It was a little chilly. I actually had two layers of pants on. >> It is if you run 6.2 miles on this. >> Uh but we had um over 160, you know, we capped it at 150 and then we added some people in at the end. Um but we raised
uh actually we raised 20 over $20,000 which is great for our first attempt. It was a lot of fun. um with our parks department. It was the second time they'd ever used their race equipment and the first time they did it with 50 people. So um oh yeah, here's
some of the pictures though. These are great. Um look, so there were a lot of kids here who were John All Children's patients. >> Um and so that and that and that's what we want to get, right? I just was it was
kind of emotional, but um uh Commissioner Joerger that that your name is on the back of that shirt for your sponsorship, so we'll have to make sure you get a shirt. >> Um there was another picture of all the county employees that did it. >> Didn't we take more than one? Well,
>> um let's see. So, we had a 10 mile or 10k run. We had a 5k run walk, which is what I did. And then we had this one mile fun run and that's that's the one you see with all the kids. Um and they they went up and back. So and then they
had the bounce house and everything. And so uh thank you for participating county administrator and uh and um look for this again next year. It'll be even bigger and better. Let's see. Um okay.
Uh I'm taking up the time that you guys you guys had a short list. Um, Mike, I emailed you the list of the CDBG HP HPMG. Is that >> uh HMGP hazard mitigation program?
>> I I don't recall us ever talking about it. Can you put that list up on the screen? Um, did you guys ever see this list? >> What list? >> Yeah, exactly. So >> I have so the
>> we got how how many millions of dollars did we get for that HGMP? >> I think I'd like to bring Andy Fawa up to talk about the HMGB >> HMGp. This is the this is the pot of money that that I said we cleaned out the Anklo River with for a little part
of it last time we got some Kevin Guthrie got us this money. I've been asking asking to have get the rivers clean, but apparently someone there's already a list and we didn't see it. So, I >> think he should sit down. We normally see him when
>> things aren't the best. >> Good FS everybody. Andy Foss, Emergency Management. >> Um, >> there there is some confusion with the HMGP list and the local mitigation strategy working group.
Please tell us what that is. >> So the local mitigation strategy working group is a um a group of members from the county, it could be public works, utilities, uh and then we have stakeholders, outside stakeholders, um
it could be hospitals, it could be community developments, and then we have our municipalities. They make up this working group. So, what happens is um the county and all the members come in
with a list of projects they would like to see be done with either HMGP money, it could be FMA money, it could be HLMP money, >> FMA, >> uh flood mitigation assistance, >> money, >> and um
uh there's a few other grants. I can't tell you off the top of my head because there's so many of them. So what happens is the group comes in with their projects. The group rates the projects and they form a list from
one to whatever 21 22 23 uh projects. As these grants come over like especially the hazard mitigation grant program which you can be can do elevation acquisition, storm water project, generator projects, uh building
hardening projects as we go down the list because we have to go down in chronological order. We pick these list these these projects out and we submit them into the state and then through FEMA. As these projects get approved and
funded, then that project gets packaged up, comes to us, then we package it up and we present it to the board for approval. So half of these that you see on this list right now, and you can see on the
right hand side, they tell you where they're at right now. Application review. Some have been closed, some have been approved. When they get approved at that level and they come back to us is when you guys see them. >> Is this There's four pages. This isn't all of it. Where's Where's the other
pages? >> Can someone cycle? Thanks. >> What does it mean when it says backup? Like take a Sunfish Drive elevation backup. >> I'd have to see it. >> I mean, >> I don't have the list in front of My issue is why weren't we part of this?
>> So I I think yeah if I may commissioner so Andy I I think really what I'm hearing from Commissioner Starky and I don't know how long the process has been the way that it is right >> 2015. >> So since 2015 this has just been the process by which that the county has undergone. So stakeholders come together
uh and they look at criteria and they prioritize these across these various grant funding sources which are not necessarily guaranteed. Um and then you just said they come chronologically. I mean I saw things from storms from Debbie. That's why I'm asking. >> So that is just a list of just the HMGP stuff. >> Okay.
>> So anyway, but but anyways, just to to cut to the heart of the matter here, if if you know, I think this board is used to having transparency with prioritizing things when it comes to say opioid funding or other other types of programs. Um, you know, it it's there's
a lot of minutia with this, but if the board would like us to revisit the policy that's been in place for 10 years to bring back things that would allow the board to help set priorities as well, I am happy to do that. Um, it's it's a lot of money. There's a lot of
things that go on with it, but I would prefer that we have a presentation available to it that can walk through what this program is about, what the dollars are, and what the appropriate when when it would be appropriate to have board input into it. What I'm hearing you say though is that, hey,
there's projects that we don't even see it until it comes forward for approval and maybe that you'd like to have a thumbrint on that prior to and happy to do that. We just need to find out. >> Last time I brought up the HGMP the CDBG HGMP
M HMGP money >> hazard mitigation grant >> I brought it up and I I don't know what pass now these are FEMA's I don't know Pasco County project number two number four um I
where why are the rivers not in here cleaning the rivers and you heard the presentation this morning what happened to that >> because that will that those projects that you see on that list come from the various departments. It could be public works. >> Well, are we not a department?
>> No. >> We don't get to have input. We don't get to have input and how any of this money is spent. That's part of my problem here. >> And that's what I'm hearing you say. And I'm >> But this isn't the first time I said it. >> That's my problem. I've been asking about these.
>> Does the board agree? If the board wants that, then I'll we will do it. >> Well, I I'll go if I could. You know when I look at you got Fed share non-Fed share that means we're paying anytime this body is going to spend money and
approve it I think early in the process the appropriate time have a recommend body out there we have different stakeholder groups but before this gets submitted anywhere it should be in front of us to see which one we want to put through >> now I I will say there's a ton of projects here they don't seem like be a
lot of large scale lot a lot of looks like small scale but if it doesn't hurt us to go forward to put projects in so be it. Um, but I hate to get something approved, especially that's been submitted now, and then say, "Oh, we don't want to do it." Though I do see a couple of city projects that, frankly,
we've given I see I see Pasco County Town and Country Village for $939,000, and I've given them $2 million of money already, and they're going to be now blighted, and I'm going to give them money. I'm gonna go take Bayhead Road, Bay Bay Boulevard and whatever on in in
the city of Port Richie and go put money to that when I know they got a big storm water pond that I should be working with DOT and us to go clean that thing out to get that southern outfall done before I go raise the road. I should fix the flooding first. >> So yeah, I think we should be looking at all these things and if it's appropriate
now, now may be a good not today but surely might be a good >> So let me clarify a little bit. When these items are selected, say the city of Newport Richie put a storm water project in, we submit the projects in. If that project gets approved, we do not
manage that. We do not put any funding towards it. That we let them know your project has been approved and you guys can move forward with it. >> But if that's money that could have come to this county instead of the city, then there's a problem. >> I I understand that. But unfortunately,
by statute, it's a stakeholder group. the stakeholders are the ones that formulate the list and rank the list. We do not have as the chair and co-chair, we do not have say over that. So let me I I I that's that's that's why I say I
want to bring something back to the board because I think there are some nuances that need to be discussed and to understand that it it may or may I don't even know myself and so we I need to sit with Andy let us come back to the board with a presentation on how HMGP works
from both the statutory perspective and from the board and again we find out what the appropriate uh point is for the board to provide its its its interjection into this and and I understand exactly what you're Thank Commissioner >> Mariana this conversation the way it's going and the information that we're
kind of talking about I think it's probably better off to do one-on- ones first then bring it to the >> 100% >> do what first >> one ones first >> um and so if the process was different departments put in what they wanted
there was no no consideration for cleaning out any of the rivers >> I I don't know commissioner I don't have a good answer for you on you know, we look to the department to look at whatever the qualifications are for the dollars, uh, other sources of
funding for projects and things. There's there's a whole host of things that go into it, but we will look at that. I'm committed to being transparent with the board on that, but let me go through the process with director Fauca here. We'll brief you individually on how it works and then see what would be appropriate,
if anything, to make changes to it. >> All right. So, um, there's so then I have two two requests. one um bring bring us what the cost was for the last cleanup that we did uh of the anklet river from Starky Boulevard to Little
Road uh when Kevin was here. And then um please put the county uh commission districts on here so so you get an idea of what part of the county this is in because I don't I I don't want to go into each one and try and figure out where they are. Some I know and some I
don't. >> Yes, ma'am. Yeah. Okay. Commissioner Stark, can you just if I add on to just what you're saying? >> Yeah. >> So, we we there was a lot of funding done from Tarpon Springs all the way up river. We know we wanted to get to Sel drive just like the gentleman was talking about today. So, I think it's as
we look at our federal stuff to maybe add that into the mix as we as we look at it too. >> Yeah. That so that um that dredging that Congressman Bill got for tarpon uh doesn't come to the county. you know that went over to downtown down
>> to tarpon for their shipping >> and fishing whatever. They couldn't get boats couldn't come out at silted in. >> Yeah. But um certainly uh go we need to um be making our our rivers more natural so that the water flows better and we
get the water out. I mean that should be seems like kind of 101 to cleaning the river so they the water flows out. I don't know. Um, okay. Then, um, um, maintenance issues.
I don't remember what that one's on. Um, so I wanted to note that, uh, when the woman spoke from the, um, uh, food policy council, um, Charles, I can't remember his last name, the guy who had the museum, Charles Adar or something
like that. You, we all went to the museum. He's about to move out of the county. He is about to move to St. Pete and put a museum in in in where all those other museums are because we don't he doesn't have any space where he is and he can't have you guys I don't know if you've been to see his museum
>> the maps >> it's it's amazing >> amazing >> amazing and you know we had an opportunity to have that arts and crafts museum in Pasco County that guy wanted it to be in our county I never met him he met with commissioner Hildebrand years ago and wanted to donate it to the county he actually had done a lot of
work commissioner Oakley and he had discovered that no hurricanes had really ever hit the Date City area. It was high and dry. It wouldn't flood. And so this is a gentleman that's had this amazing collection. And um and he was looking
for a home for it. And the Mitchell family had an amazing um uh museum. >> It wouldn't flood or get hit by hurricane. >> So he put it but he ended up putting it in St. Pete. >> What about G High School? >> Well, that's that's where the the guy is now, but there's not enough No, he's at
he's at Wonder >> He's at Ridgewood. Yeah, he's at Wonder Creek. >> I don't know. But we were going to try and see if we could come up with any space. I I don't know what we have or help him, but um my brother just went to see him because he inherited some
antiquities from my mom and and he told him that he's probably going to be moving out soon because there's no space here for him. So, we don't have a lot of culture here, C. And I >> I know I would I've been racking my brain, too. trying to help that guy. >> So,
okay. >> And especially your grand your grandchild would love it if you've never been. >> I' I've been to >> They have a dinosaur egg that shows an X-ray of the baby dinosaur and you can touch everything. It's really cool. >> Yeah. >> Okay, that's it for me.
>> Okay. All right. Well, I won't repeat everybody, but this was >> this was uh Moffett. Um >> look at Lee Moffett in that picture. It's a great picture of Lee. >> Which one? >> Lee Moffet. >> Oh, yeah. Great shot. Great shot.
>> So, I won't repeat what everybody said, but it was an amazing celebration and looking forward to everything else they have coming down the the pipeline. Um, I don't have a picture, but I was at Magnolia Valley uh Civic Association meeting on Saturday, and I just want to
give a shout out to staff because they were amazing. Uh Nicole Allen just jumped right in. She's brand new and she was she she was just holding her own and I was so proud of her. Uh she was able to answer all
their questions. We had Panos there. >> Panos did a great job and he he got a lot of heat and he he did great. >> Um we had Pasco County Sheriff's Office out there just talking about uh neighborhood watch. Um it was just it
was a great meeting. So um all good. We h they have some questions and Miss Grace um introduced herself today. So we are getting with the team and trying to see if we can get all their questions answered. One of their concerns was the
Magnolia Valley Golf Course is only mode really when they have events. So we're going to try and get them on the rotation um so it looks nice. Um, and that's about it. That's all I have. >> Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Star. You had something? >> Yeah. Um, I need to talk to you about
something that I've been asked to bring forward. Um, uh, David had to leave um, and he could help explain this better than me, but um, you might remember when Starky Ranch was being developed
um, and we didn't have the money to build a park. Um, Welock uh and the develop the developer and Welock came for well well they the development team came forward and offered to fund the maintenance of that
park for I don't know if it was six or eight years. They put land into it. Um they were just a great partner. It actually was the first P4 in the country um to do with the school district and the county and and the developer and um
just a very very unusual deal. I wish we could do more deals like that. Um but the gentleman who put that all together and spearheaded it, his name was Matt Call. I don't know if you guys remember meeting him. you wouldn't have met him, Commissioner Jagger, but uh he was in
his early 40s and developed um pancreatic cancer and uh passed away a couple months ago very sadly. Um left two young children, >> but we've been asked if we would consider naming the fields,
either the fields or the gymnasium after after him for all the work he did and putting that together. Um, we think the fields are better. Doesn't involve the school district. >> So, um, we'd like to, uh, it's commissioner driven, so we need to get
approval here to put up a sign, uh, calling the the fields the Matt Call memorial fields. >> I love that idea. >> So, that's a motion. Who is that? >> Commissioner, I I don't have any objection to what you're saying, but
there is a process in the land development code for naming stuff. >> This is what I was told to do. >> So, I would think that we would follow that process. >> Is this how it gets started? >> So, it would it's interesting too because I had asked Eric if we had had a
policy on the naming of facilities. look like there was one that was developed under the previous administrator but never really executed in. If you just give me a meeting uh just one board meeting cycle, we can maybe bring something back that kind of makes sure that we check all the boxes with the LDC
and make sure that if if we want to approve this policy and then that way it's all formal and we can, you know, have all the right reasons and everything put put into place and >> that works. >> It's it's documented well. So, I'll just bring that back on the third if that's okay with that with that direction from the board to to name those ball fields
that and then that way it'll >> I wouldn't I don't mind a discussion on it but I I'm this is like flatfooted so it's I'd like more information. >> Yes, absolutely. Yep. >> Okay, that's it. Thank you. >> Okay,
Mr. Carella. >> Thank you, sir. Just one item. Um several months ago, the board had approved the short list of design build firms for the Wesley Center progressive design build and then provided to the county administrator what center
>> uh Wesley Centers the Wesley Chapel um wastewater treatment plant right off of I75 near Overpass Road. So, a progressive design build to uh expand the treatment capacity of that plant. um for reasons that I won't get into. Um
the county staff is is uh looking to reject the shortlisted firms and go back out on the street uh for that. So this is just an FYI to the board that I will not be executing that contract that we are we are basically going back out uh for solicitations on that. And so just
uh I'm just um there there's going to be some changes into how we approach it and and we just feel that it's better this way. So just I'm letting you know that. Um otherwise I have nothing else. >> Okay. All right. County attorney. >> I don't have anything for you today. Thank you.
>> Yes. Um I had an situation kind of come to light that I mentioned earlier in the meeting. Um we went back and historically uh the clerk's office has been providing minutes to be put on the agenda first
for distribution and then subsequently reagended again for approval which we cannot find any basis for or any and as far as the quick research that Shannon
did for us. I hate to use the phrase that's the way we've always done it >> which is not an acceptable answer. >> No. >> So with without a desire for anything else or to do otherwise I've spoken with
clerk Alvarez soul. She agrees that uh going forward that the uh agendas will just or I'm sorry the minutes will be just agended for approval one time and if there is an issue obviously it can be
withdrawn from the consent for clarification or otherwise but uh it'll cut down work on the agenda staff and ours that's duplicated at this time. So it's not in your rules. uh a quick look by the county attorney and by us we
don't find anything. So without objection, that's what what we'll do forth. >> Uh Gene, you have the pictures up. All right. So these are the pictures from Jared Ford. Uh that's a local artist. >> So fine >> that did that picture.
>> His name's on the next slide, I think. >> I think it's >> Mark Hannah. >> So it's a local person that did that picture, but I thought it was tremendous work. There's a picture with the Jared family and Cliff Martin who was for years he was a stalwart they always did a great job and commissioner wait
myself. This is one of the representatives that's director nationwide. I mean two nationwide directors from Ford were here and Pasco in the next picture and there's Mrs. Ford right there. Um what a bundle of energy I want to say. She was like passionate about it just like the other
gentleman was as well. And it was it was really cool to think about it just as a change in location for a dealership. These two national figures that love the brand, love the family, run business, and just are passionate about what they're doing. So it was really really a
great celebration, right? Um so on the last meeting I had cancelled the meeting or I ended the meeting and I called it back up again in that the minutes for um I was looking for an approval for a first annual Voices
United concert 5K which can be held at Sunwest to wave the fees to run the park. You guys had approved it but I just want to get maybe make another motion get another motion second to reapprove it so it's clearly for uh staff to proceed if they when they go forward.
So it's again to wave the fees for First United for >> Yeah, I'll make that motion. >> Motion we have a second. >> Second. >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. Okay. Thank you. Um and I'm going to get um I've had a few
comments over the years about Hudson Beach getting more parking out there. Um on Arman Way, there's a spot we've talked about in Brford. You were out there when we did it. Uh we fixed the storm water out there which is working tremendously. I mean people just thrilled that the streets don't flood anymore. It drains right out where it
should go. But along the back part where we kind of like made the parking changes a little bit. Uh you've got a lot of area that could work really well for golf carts. And I've talked about Clark Street as well. They want to kind of look at doing those changes. So um Mike, if you could let's let's have the team take a look at and bring something
forward. I know we've talked about it, but um he wants to come before the board, but I'd rather take some action and get something that ahead of time. Um we had a great meeting with the uh community development block grant disaster recovery meeting at Leisure Beach. Very well attended. A few people
that were u showed up, asked a lot of great questions. The team was great. Uh they stayed there until every question was answered. And uh it was it was good to be out there in the field. Um, in December 19th, I got a letter from the city of Newport Richie talking about um,
how they were going to adopt a resolution to include uh, Lee Jalane and Van Duran. I got another followup on January 5th. Um, I've had I've looked at it. I've had my assistant Colleen look at it as far as
the CRA requirements, etc. Um, I think David Engles looked at it as well and I'd like to get a report back on the CRAAS coming forward to see what's going on. Um, one of the things as far as again that taking this area which is certifiably
blighted, but if we're going to add in these acres after giving land or let's say let the land go to them, etc., and not not object. I I I think it's time we take a close look at being 99% blooded.
If you tried to do that now since when was the first was done was before 2006. After that point, they would not allow you to do it until you had full approval of everybody in the area. So, it's something that they did knowing maybe that was coming up and we've been
suffering at the county citizen been suffering at that. we're paying an order amount of taxes to help them rebuild their city when we still have plenty of stuff rebuilding the county. So, uh, if we could get a report back on it, uh, does the board have any trouble with this? And Jeeoff, is it just a matter of
acknowledgement or >> Well, it looks like they and I couldn't tell whether they're required to have two public hearings or whether they have changed the public hearing that was
scheduled for tonight at 6 till February 3rd at 6. Um, but it's the both letters say that the the council intends to adopt resolution 2026-05
and which is the area of Leisure Lane and Van Duran. Um, so they're they're having a public hearing on their on their ordinance. Um, and I don't know if the if obviously
getting something to there tonight is a little I don't think we'll be able to do that, but if you authorize the chair to to sign a letter um concurring with the
them adding it to the CRA but expressing um the board's desire to have the an equal equal area taken out of the the CRA. >> Um I wouldn't go through that because again at this late hour to try to make
that happen. It's a much more detailed discussion and I think it's something we should look at intensely to find out exactly how we want to handle this not only the SC but all the others as well. So I'm going to just let it pass and just let it roll. We knew that was going to happen, >> right? >> But it's just happening now and with the
second letter I just wanted to share that with the board. >> Okay. So, >> I mean it the second hearing is February 3rd. So, we could put something together if that's what we're >> desiring. I'd rather like I said I I David looking at we've looked at it. I think there's some things that that could be should be looked at that we should go further with.
>> Yeah. My my review of the letter is that it's the statutory required hearing that they have and notice to us that they want to bring this area into their CRA. >> Yeah. They're following the steps. Okay. All right. I don't have anything else. Well, I have a question for you and I I
sent that photo to you >> of someone commenting about that canal in your district where people are dumping raw sewage at night into the canal and it's just floating behind their houses. How do we catch them? Are you aware that's going on?
>> Oh, I am so aware. >> I would really like to throw the book at them and find them. >> If you look at that email, it actually addresses the governor every time he sends something to myself. He's now included. This was a Facebook post, so I don't know who it was. >> All right. So, he's he'd been sending emails to not only myself, but the governor as well.
>> Well, >> trying to push for D to look at it and try to find a way to go deal with it. So, >> can we put can I mean, can we catch them or will neighbors turn each other? I mean, what's going on up there? It's disgusting. >> So, with with different reports out there to see whether it's E.coli or not
or whether it's not the poop is floating on the water. >> I'm just saying by the time they get there, etc. It's difficult. So, uh, I'm I'm off for convening a meeting with D, Mike, maybe with the team and let let's go look at this problem. Let them go look at the letters. Maybe get someone from the governor's office to look at it
as well. Maybe with that extra effort, we may get uh some 247 assistance or something to to be out there when it happens because obviously they're going to drop her at night when no one's around and then by that time it goes up and down with the tide, etc. It's tough to track it. So, it's um it is uh people
in their RVs apparently and they're they they drain it straight into the channel. >> No, nobody knows. And again, if if this gentleman had a specific address for us to go check, we would we've gone out when all the RVs that were out put out there with the hurricanes, they went to
make sure people had hooked up all >> So, but there could be some people in a boat that does the same thing. So, I'm I'm willing to I would love to have staff taking a look at this and trying to figure take take another step. I I thought frankly with the governor being looped into this every step of the way something hap would happen because
believe me we we've been dealing with this for years not in just in this one area but all around. I read just recently um I don't know where I was they were talking about >> the um readings of the Anklo River and others
and you know I I don't that we have really high feal content around here and so I'd like to know if we're testing and are are we seeing what the results are of our coastal waterways but that was shocking to me and and wherever I cannot
remember where I was they even mentioned the the points per billion or whatever that it and I'd never heard these tests you >> uh oh yes ma matter of fact >> I knew up in Hudson but >> so this is this is Hudson so >> but I'm talking about Anklo River
>> okay well >> Cody River >> yeah and we had from the scolop season get shut down is a concern there too but I will say one of the things that I tried to go for years ago and brought up several times I would love to take over the private water utility that's out
there, the sewer utility, they do nothing, but we they send the stuff to us anyway. I would love to have us take them over and and make those steps and maybe we can try again with people that we work with to try to make that happen. But if the board would grant that to go, that would probably take care of some of
that as well because there's some people that aren't hooked up that should be hooked up and we don't know what happens with that stuff either. >> So, who tests the water? Is that is does the county do we? We have some money in the parks budget statutoily where we do water quality testing. I know that um uh
public works is undergoing a a water quality initiative to look at the quality of water in our in our streams and rivers. And so it's it's a multi- it's a multi-pronged approach. I mean in this particular instance I think D has the jurisdiction. I know we've >> But do they give numbers to you?
>> We share data. I I I can't specifically speak to what the actual what the actual process is or whether or not there's a clearing house for it. You even have private environmental groups that can go and do testing. It's not hard. You can take a sample and send it to a lab. Um, but I hear what you're saying. I've seen some of the pictures. I thought that we
had done some testing on some of that. >> A lot of testing up there >> and it had come the counts were showed that there it was not >> sewage. Some of it was right, but some of they also found a matter of fact there's a place up in Hudson to the north of Clark Street that's got a bunch
of trailer homes. We found out, etc. We've gone to code a few times to go go in there and we don't know what's going on from that, but the counts that were in that area right alone were like through the roof. So D's got a lot of data already, but I would just love the attention to get them out there when
things could happen and and try to look at what what can we do to really look at this to keep it from happening. I think that's fair and I think we can engage in a conversation on that with D, get them out there. And then with regards to this issue, I know we have done studies in the past even before I joined the county uh from through the storm water uh
division of of looking at water quality and you know and there's a lot of complicating mitigating factors with it. But you know uh let's let's engage with D on it. Let's look at you know the quality of our water resources I think is an important thing and I think this board has has made that clear. Uh,
Commissioner Starky. >> Um, this brings up a question that, um, this afternoon, this sometime today, when we were talking, I guess it was this morning with Barbara Riyle's property, I noticed to the right of Barbara Riyle's property was an RV park,
not a mobile home community. So, an RV park is where they're supposed to leave, right? uh once they get to 6 months. Um if you're in a travel trailer in an RV park,
you don't have what how do you clean your system? >> I mean, presumably they would either have some kind of septic system or system on site for disposal or >> dump, >> you know, you go to a dump station. >> So, so you would have to move your portable
>> RV trailer to the dump station. You might have >> they have they have a mobile one >> and it comes to your thing and dumps it out >> because by law those are supposed to be movable. >> Yes. >> The the RV the RVs not a mobile home.
>> But we got RVs who have built all kinds of structures around their RVs illegally that when they're not a mobile home, but they've turned they turned it into something nonmovable. >> Yeah. And I think the hurricane showed us some of those areas, too. And I know we're
>> looking at that. >> Yeah. >> And I'll just add one more thing. >> Okay, >> Mr. Jackie. I think you made a great point the last meeting when you talked about creep myrtles. They put them in this time of season. I looked in front of Ashley furniture. I drove by it the next day. >> It looks terrible. I think that needs to
come off the list as far what we have put in there. >> I thank you. I I I love crate mortals. I have them in the front of my house. But to use them in the context that we are, >> we are doing no one any favors. All right. You agree as well? Appreciate it. >> Okay. So, Mike, maybe you can take a look and bring something back to us on
that to get that off the list. >> Crepe myrtles as off as a species of allowable shade trees or >> and anything seasonal like that is something we should be looking at. >> And remember to add see if we can change the code about adding a a street shade tree.
>> We have to do it to every >> Yeah, we're already we're already looking at that piece. Yes, ma'am. every project that comes up here, we're going to have to put that restriction on it if if they will do it voluntarily until we fix that. >> That's how we have to do that. Um it used to be so so in front of um the uh
the strip mall or whatever you call it that that Mark Gold bought on US 19 that has a Wind Dixie on it. It had it has crepe myrtles across the front and for the first year or two they were continuously trimmed >> to the st to the nub. Yeah.
>> Never grew anything. And I I I finally called Mark. Said, "Mark, I don't want have to find you, but you got to let those babies grow." But they just And they're allowed to >> trim it to nothing. >> So, it's just stubs. >> Okay. Now, is anyone going up to any other commissioners going up to FAC?
>> No, I'll be there. >> I think so. No, >> the next one. >> Just you. >> When is it? >> Just me? >> I think it's just you. It's tomorrow. Tomorrow is FAC. I know several folks are heading to Tallahassee on the 3rd and 4th. I know I will be there. Ralph will be there.
>> Yes, ma'am. I think most of the board. So, we'll >> try to keep that meeting short. I thought today's would have been short. >> Are you going up? >> Are you Are you leaving? >> I knew the battle I was into. >> Are you leaving today? >> I'm going to go tonight. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I already booked. >> Don't speed.
>> No, this the first one I've missed, but yeah, I just have too much. >> I'll be there to represent. >> All right. >> I still have Christmas in my car. >> All right. Thank you all very much. We're journ. >> Thank you, sir. >> I just sent it to Katie.